Emma Watson and the 'He For She' Campaign

[SkyBurn]

Go Emma Watson! One of the most beautiful women in the world, and also a smart smart girl.

Watson delivered an inspiring speech about feminism at the United Nations Headquarters in New York yesterday, saying there is a need for more feminists in society and called on men to advocate gender equality. In her speech, Watson described her decision to become a feminist as “uncomplicated,” but that she was shocked to find that society associated it with being “too strong, too aggressive, anti-men, unattractive.”

Here's the full transcript, and the video. She is totally on point, IMO.


Today we are launching a campaign called “HeForShe.” I am reaching out to you because I need your help. We want to end gender inequality—and to do that we need everyone to be involved.
This is the first campaign of its kind at the UN: we want to try and galvanize as many men and boys as possible to be advocates for gender equality. And we don’t just want to talk about it, but make sure it is tangible.
I was appointed six months ago and the more I have spoken about feminism the more I have realized that fighting for women’s rights has too often become synonymous with man-hating. If there is one thing I know for certain, it is that this has to stop.

For the record, feminism by definition is: “The belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities. It is the theory of the political, economic and social equality of the sexes.”
I started questioning gender-based assumptions when at eight I was confused at being called “bossy,” because I wanted to direct the plays we would put on for our parents—but the boys were not.

When at 14 I started being sexualized by certain elements of the press.
When at 15 my girlfriends started dropping out of their sports teams because they didn’t want to appear “muscly.”
When at 18 my male friends were unable to express their feelings.
I decided I was a feminist and this seemed uncomplicated to me. But my recent research has shown me that feminism has become an unpopular word.
Apparently I am among the ranks of women whose expressions are seen as too strong, too aggressive, isolating, anti-men and, unattractive.

Why is the word such an uncomfortable one?

I am from Britain and think it is right that as a woman I am paid the same as my male counterparts. I think it is right that I should be able to make decisions about my own body. I think it is right that women be involved on my behalf in the policies and decision-making of my country. I think it is right that socially I am afforded the same respect as men. But sadly I can say that there is no one country in the world where all women can expect to receive these rights.
No country in the world can yet say they have achieved gender equality.

These rights I consider to be human rights but I am one of the lucky ones. My life is a sheer privilege because my parents didn’t love me less because I was born a daughter. My school did not limit me because I was a girl. My mentors didn’t assume I would go less far because I might give birth to a child one day. These influencers were the gender equality ambassadors that made who I am today. They may not know it, but they are the inadvertent feminists who are. And we need more of those. And if you still hate the word—it is not the word that is important but the idea and the ambition behind it. Because not all women have been afforded the same rights that I have. In fact, statistically, very few have been.

In 1997, Hilary Clinton made a famous speech in Beijing about women’s rights. Sadly many of the things she wanted to change are still a reality today.
But what stood out for me the most was that only 30 per cent of her audience were male. How can we affect change in the world when only half of it is invited or feel welcome to participate in the conversation?
Men—I would like to take this opportunity to extend your formal invitation. Gender equality is your issue too.
Because to date, I’ve seen my father’s role as a parent being valued less by society despite my needing his presence as a child as much as my mother’s.

I’ve seen young men suffering from mental illness unable to ask for help for fear it would make them look less “macho”—in fact in the UK suicide is the biggest killer of men between 20-49; eclipsing road accidents, cancer and coronary heart disease. I’ve seen men made fragile and insecure by a distorted sense of what constitutes male success. Men don’t have the benefits of equality either.

We don’t often talk about men being imprisoned by gender stereotypes but I can see that that they are and that when they are free, things will change for women as a natural consequence.
If men don’t have to be aggressive in order to be accepted women won’t feel compelled to be submissive. If men don’t have to control, women won’t have to be controlled.
Both men and women should feel free to be sensitive. Both men and women should feel free to be strong… It is time that we all perceive gender on a spectrum not as two opposing sets of ideals.

If we stop defining each other by what we are not and start defining ourselves by what we are—we can all be freer and this is what HeForShe is about. It’s about freedom.
I want men to take up this mantle. So their daughters, sisters and mothers can be free from prejudice but also so that their sons have permission to be vulnerable and human too—reclaim those parts of themselves they abandoned and in doing so be a more true and complete version of themselves.
You might be thinking who is this Harry Potter girl? And what is she doing up on stage at the UN. It’s a good question and trust me I have been asking myself the same thing. I don’t know if I am qualified to be here. All I know is that I care about this problem. And I want to make it better.

And having seen what I’ve seen—and given the chance—I feel it is my duty to say something. English statesman Edmund Burke said: “All that is needed for the forces of evil to triumph is for enough good men and women to do nothing.”

In my nervousness for this speech and in my moments of doubt I’ve told myself firmly—if not me, who, if not now, when. If you have similar doubts when opportunities are presented to you I hope those words might be helpful.
Because the reality is that if we do nothing it will take 75 years, or for me to be nearly a hundred before women can expect to be paid the same as men for the same work. 15.5 million girls will be married in the next 16 years as children. And at current rates it won’t be until 2086 before all rural African girls will be able to receive a secondary education.
If you believe in equality, you might be one of those inadvertent feminists I spoke of earlier.
And for this I applaud you.

We are struggling for a uniting word but the good news is we have a uniting movement. It is called HeForShe. I am inviting you to step forward, to be seen to speak up, To be the he for she. And to ask yourself if not me, who, if not now when.
Thank you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-iFl4qhBsE

[Grenzland]

Nobody cares.

[armenianbodyhair]

Let's all brag about how one sided we are! Hurray!

[Grenzland]

Let's all brag about how one sided we are! Hurray!

She is an actress. This may be quite impressing for you, but I don't care what she has to say about the world just because she is pretty.

[armenianbodyhair]

She is an actress. This may be quite impressing for you, but I don't care what she has to say about the world just because she is pretty.

You're not recognizing your own bias, regardless of my own views (which I have not revealed in any way so you can stop assuming retarded shit) many people care. She spoke at the UN. Now, if you don't care, that's fine, but don't pretend like you speak for everyone.

[FeederOfRavens]

Pussyfication of the Men.

[Grenzland]

She spoke at the UN.

Oh really? As an actress who is paid to look pretty? Seems to be an honour.
Really impressing.

And actually: NOBODY CARES!

Or is the whole world going to change? :)

[Linet]

I dont like feminism to start with....i consider it pathetic and diminishing women de facto.....

[armenianbodyhair]

Oh really? As an actress who is paid to look pretty? Seems to be an honour.
Really impressing.

She seems more intelligent and articulate than you to be perfectly honest, and I hate feminism.

[Graus]

I guess we will see a lot of Burka burning in Saudi Arabia then. Newsflash changing "reality" with a few words dont change, even if uttered from Hermine...

[Linet]

She seems more intelligent and articulate than you to be perfectly honest, and I hate feminism.

I think that people like her go anywhere they are invited and play it goody-goody just in order to promote themselves....Look at me i am so good of a person :angel:, dont you want to see more of me?...Lets say on a movie :eyes?

[Grenzland]

She seems more intelligent and articulate than you to be perfectly honest, and I hate feminism.

Ah ok. :lol:

You don't know me and you don't know her.
I don't even see your problem. I don't like you, you don't like me. I follow ideas, you follow fame. Well we don't overlap in any way. Go your way, I go mine.

[SkyBurn]

Did any of you actually read the transcript? :picard1:

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Both men and women should feel free to be sensitive.

Sensitive men = life time of virginity. The moment you're all "sensitive and stuff" is the moment the woman loses all respect for you. No woman gets aroused by a guy talking about his feelings. What they think is "oh I'm talking to a chick with a dick."

[Linet]

Did any of you actually read the transcript? :picard1:

What a question ! http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Did any of you actually read the transcript? :picard1:

I was going to but then I was all like... eh, what porn is on the menu today.

[Grenzland]

Did any of you actually read the transcript? :picard1:

Yes. Nothing new. Nothing that affects me in any way. I don't need a young actress to tell me how I should act.

[Virtuous]

Sensitive men = life time of virginity. The moment you're all "sensitive and stuff" is the moment the woman loses all respect for you. No woman gets aroused by a guy talking about his feelings. What they think is "oh I'm talking to a chick with a dick."

The truth has been uttered by this man up above.

[Grenzland]

Sensitive men = life time of virginity. The moment you're all "sensitive and stuff" is the moment the woman loses all respect for you. No woman gets aroused by a guy talking about his feelings. What they think is "oh I'm talking to a chick with a dick."

Let's see if she is really a magician and can change nature. :D

[SkyBurn]

Sensitive men = life time of virginity. The moment you're all "sensitive and stuff" is the moment the woman loses all respect for you. No woman gets aroused by a guy talking about his feelings. What they think is "oh I'm talking to a chick with a dick."

If you're living your life just to attract chicks who care more about your masculinity than personality, then you think like middle aged man with a midlife crisis penis car.


What a question ! http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/uhuhuh-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862523

You said something about Feminism diminishing women, which makes me wonder if you understood what she was talking about.


I was going to but then I was all like... eh, what porn is on the menu today.

Congrats. You watch porn. Very manly. Caring about issues is too uncool for you.


Yes. Nothing new. Nothing that affects me in any way. I don't need a young actress to tell me how I should act.

Which part of it did you disagree with? Simply the person who read the speech?

[Grenzland]

She is a rich woman from a Western nation. There is no need to complain about women's rights.

Yes, there are nations where women aren't equal. Like in Arabia, Africa, parts of Asia...
Well nations who are fucked up anyway and really don't give a thing about a rich Western actress.

[Linet]

You said something about Feminism diminishing women, which makes me wonder if you understood what she was talking about.





Well, i have to admit that she is quoting wonderfully http://www.datingadviceforums.com/forums/images/smilies/parrot.gif a speech someone else wrote for her http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gejVu36Hw7c/USAN82MIB0I/AAAAAAAATxI/0Sak5bZGu0I/s1600/writing1-smiley.gif....
I expect an educated person or a person who has spend time on such matters to speak about them, not a well paid actor which had no connection to the subject and will use it just in order to promote herself.

[SkyBurn]

She is a rich woman from a Western nation. There is no need to complain about women's rights.

Yes, there are nations where women aren't equal. Like in Arabia, Africa, parts of Asia...
Well nations who are fucked up anyway and really don't give a thing about a rich Western actress.


Well, i have to admit that she is quoting wonderfully http://www.datingadviceforums.com/forums/images/smilies/parrot.gif a speech someone else wrote for her http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gejVu36Hw7c/USAN82MIB0I/AAAAAAAATxI/0Sak5bZGu0I/s1600/writing1-smiley.gif....
I expect an educated person or a person who has spend time on such matters to speak about them, not a well paid actor which had no connection to subject and will use it just in order to promote herself.

Once again, just read the transcript :P



"You might be thinking who is this Harry Potter girl? And what is she doing up on stage at the UN. It’s a good question and trust me I have been asking myself the same thing. I don’t know if I am qualified to be here. All I know is that I care about this problem. And I want to make it better.

And having seen what I’ve seen—and given the chance—I feel it is my duty to say something. English statesman Edmund Burke said: “All that is needed for the forces of evil to triumph is for enough good men and women to do nothing.”

In my nervousness for this speech and in my moments of doubt I’ve told myself firmly—if not me, who, if not now, when. If you have similar doubts when opportunities are presented to you I hope those words might be helpful."

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

If you're living your life just to attract chicks who care more about your masculinity than personality, then you think like middle aged man with a midlife crisis penis car.

I'm just stating the way it is. I'm 35. I've been around.




Congrats. You watch porn. Very manly.

German midget porn to be more specific.


Caring about issues is too uncool for you.

Yes, I obviously don't care about issues. All my time at this forum is spent not talking about issues.

[SkyBurn]

I'm just stating the way it is. I'm 35. I've been around.

I think somebody who is younger than you is probably more qualified to talk about how new generations see each other. But nice job on getting with women - the internet is definitely the place to self promote.


Yes, I obviously don't care about issues. All my time at this forum is spent not talking about issues.

You just alluded to being too cool for world issues, and now you're saying that you're not. Either try be funny, or comment seriously. Don't switch from one to the other when it suits the image you're creating for yourself.

[Grenzland]

"You might be thinking who is this Harry Potter girl? And what is she doing up on stage at the UN. It’s a good question and trust me I have been asking myself the same thing. I don’t know if I am qualified to be here. All I know is that I care about this problem. And I want to make it better.

And having seen what I’ve seen—and given the chance—I feel it is my duty to say something. English statesman Edmund Burke said: “All that is needed for the forces of evil to triumph is for enough good men and women to do nothing.”

In my nervousness for this speech and in my moments of doubt I’ve told myself firmly—if not me, who, if not now, when. If you have similar doubts when opportunities are presented to you I hope those words might be helpful."

And this really impresses you? :lol:

I couldn't care less. I change my opinion as soon as she is walking around like this in Saudi Arabia. Until then it's just words.

[Linet]

Once again, just read the transcript :P



"You might be thinking who is this Harry Potter girl? And what is she doing up on stage at the UN. It’s a good question and trust me I have been asking myself the same thing. I don’t know if I am qualified to be here. All I know is that I care about this problem. And I want to make it better.

And having seen what I’ve seen—and given the chance—I feel it is my duty to say something. English statesman Edmund Burke said: “All that is needed for the forces of evil to triumph is for enough good men and women to do nothing.”

In my nervousness for this speech and in my moments of doubt I’ve told myself firmly—if not me, who, if not now, when. If you have similar doubts when opportunities are presented to you I hope those words might be helpful."

Ok, i feel the same as she does http://www.sclero.org/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/emoticons-i-care.gif ....are they going to put me up on the stage as well to speak about it http://yoursmiles.org/psmile/orator/p0902.gif? I am more qualified than her :nerd: and i have spend as much time as she has on the matter (no time http://cdn.pogocheats.net/forum/Smileys/sofrayt/vacation63.gif)....


Sorry , i wont shed tears because she is so "sensitive" :puppy_dp: ...really? Because she said those phrases, she is an angel send from heaven :angel to save us? Sorry...i dont think so....but i definately think that someone has to congradulate the person who wrote her the speech....

[Empecinado]

Sensitive men = life time of virginity. The moment you're all "sensitive and stuff" is the moment the woman loses all respect for you. No woman gets aroused by a guy talking about his feelings. What they think is "oh I'm talking to a chick with a dick."

They're doing a irreparable damage to the youth teaching them to follow the ideal of soft-men.

[Jackson]

I think that people like her go anywhere they are invited and play it goody-goody just in order to promote themselves....Look at me i am so good of a person :angel:, dont you want to see more of me?...Lets say on a movie :eyes?

Well after all she is an actor, so as sincere as her opinions may be, it is important to remember that she has grown up being paid to say things for other people.

Edit: Posted before i finished reading the thread, didn't realise you said the exact same thing already haha.

[Graus]

Once again, just read the transcript :P



"You might be thinking who is this Harry Potter girl? And what is she doing up on stage at the UN. It’s a good question and trust me I have been asking myself the same thing. I don’t know if I am qualified to be here. All I know is that I care about this problem. And I want to make it better.

And having seen what I’ve seen—and given the chance—I feel it is my duty to say something. English statesman Edmund Burke said: “All that is needed for the forces of evil to triumph is for enough good men and women to do nothing.”

In my nervousness for this speech and in my moments of doubt I’ve told myself firmly—if not me, who, if not now, when. If you have similar doubts when opportunities are presented to you I hope those words might be helpful."

I am afraid Mr. Burke wasnt feminst himself, the quote doesnt mention women at all.

[Ultra]

It's just the standard "lack of gender equality rights is the biggest problem of our century!"-bullshit. It's easy to say that when you are a rich spoiled whore actor who really do not have to care about or feel the consequences of actual, real issues - because once again, you never have to feel affected by them! I don't even want to know how much dirty money shady lobbyists paid her to make this awful propaganda speech. She's by all means a complete sell-out.

[Grenzland]

They're doing a irreparable damage to the youth teaching them to follow the ideal of soft-men.

!!!

For men and women!

[mikhail]

Who the fuck is Emma Watson?

[SkyBurn]

God, so many of you hate her purely because she stars in movies and has money. Without knowing anything about her.

Classic TA general hatred. I'm just going to step away now.

[SkyBurn]

It's just the standard "lack of gender equality rights is the biggest problem of our century!"-bullshit. It's easy to say that when you are a rich spoiled whore actor who really do not have to care about or feel the consequences of actual, real issues - because once again, you never have to feel affected by them! I don't even want to know how much dirty money shady lobbyists paid her to make this awful propaganda speech. She's by all means a complete sell-out.

She started it up herself you presumptuous vegetable.

[Jackson]

It's just the standard "lack of gender equality rights is the biggest problem of our century!"-bullshit. It's easy to say that when you are a rich spoiled whore actor who really do not have to care about or feel the consequences of actual, real issues - because once again, you never have to feel affected by them! I don't even want to know how much dirty money shady lobbyists paid her to make this awful propaganda speech. She's by all means a complete sell-out.

Indeed, women should rather be thankful that men have given so much ground to them already, and move on to important issues. It seems to me like another part of today's norm of self-inflating the ego by getting involved in issues that are much less relevant today than they were in past, and stating them to be one of the biggest issues. To me it seems pretty pathetic, coming along towards the end of a battle and taking some of the credit. As Grenzland said before, if she was a real feminist she would be going to some places where women have practically no rights and campaigning there. That is of course if they actually want to change. Although she'd probably end up dead or in prison, what a shame.

[Linet]

God, so many of you hate her purely because she stars in movies and has money. Without knowing anything about her.

Classic TA general hatred. I'm just going to step away now.

Hate her? :fwhat:


Skyburn....come close..... http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/smileys/snap-out-of-it-smiley.gif?1292867675


You are the enthusiastic fun :rockon: who blindly claps his hands http://www.viperpits.org/smf/Smileys/VP/emoticon_02.gif in frond of the show :humble: ....we just dont care about it or her....she is pretty, she does her job and get paid for it....end of story. I am pretty sure there were many other people alot more qualified than her to speak about the matter....who even know what they are talking about....and wouldnt repeat a memorised script....

[Grenzland]

God, so many of you hate her purely because she stars in movies and has money. Without knowing anything about her.

Classic TA general hatred. I'm just going to step away now.

Of course. :rolleyes:

I don't hate her neither I like her. I just know her face and her name. And I don't want to know more about her. What is wrong with you? Do you have some posters hanging on your walls? Do you write her letters?

The only reason she was invited for this speech is her face and her popularity. Nothing more.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I think somebody who is younger than you is probably more qualified to talk about how new generations see each other.

It doesn't matter the generation. It's a mindset that developed through the evolutionary process. Even the most independent, tough minded woman wants a guy she feels can take control of a situation.


But nice job on getting with women - the internet is definitely the place to self promote.

I think that sentence says more about you than me. I simply made an observation. One that is far from shocking, Unlike many guys at this forum - probably most - I don't initiate conversations with female posters in PM.


You just alluded to being too cool for world issues, and now you're saying that you're not.

In your mind, perhaps. What I was actually doing was correcting a misconception.


Either try be funny, or comment seriously. Don't switch from one to the other when it suits the image you're creating for yourself.

How about I just laugh at some guy whose opinion means nothing to me?

[Methmatician]

Classic TA general hatred. I'm just going to step away now.
Don't bother with this community. Anything to do with equal rights or progressive issues turns into a shitfest.

[Jackson]

God, so many of you hate her purely because she stars in movies and has money. Without knowing anything about her.

Classic TA general hatred. I'm just going to step away now.

That's you making assumptions about people that disagree with you, because they disagree. Stop being so prejudiced. :P

[RandoBloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NCNSY4QX4k&list=UUBVYmXSIzHq_gXMZpsfd9kg

In depth analisys

[Learning_Genetics]

This speech annoys me. Some people like to talk but what for?

[LightHouse89]

My god I hate feminists. One of the most useless causes in 2014 is feminism.

[Sarmatian]

Did any of you actually read the transcript? :picard1:

Yes. And watched video too. By the end of it I had a strong opinion that it's all staged exploitation of her image of a 'well mannered, intelligent girl with high morale standards who is always right' that she successfully created while playing Hermione. Poor girl will be very disappointed because of her high expectations.

[Cleitus]

Burn it with fire !!!

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Who the fuck is Emma Watson?

Apparently making all those Harry Potter films makes her someone worthy of speaking about a social issue. They might as well just have grabbed anyone off the street but... she makes movies and the publicity she can generate is what it's really about for this very important social issue. As we all know women who take time off to have a child or two should be promoted in whatever business they work in despite the fact it costs the employer a shit load of money to have to scramble for someone whose lack of experience costs the company money - for that significant period of time, even if she takes off only a few months.

This is what some people don't understand: if you hire a woman who intends to have a child in the near future over that of a man your business is going to lose money. You now have to hire someone temporary to fill her important role. That's the issue. I'm fine with women working in any position they're qualified but if you intend to have a family you must understand you're less likely to get promoted. There may be thousands of people whose job security and future depends on the decision of someone in a particular position. It's unfair to those people if that position is left vacant or more likely temporarily replaced.

It is what it is. If you're a woman who wants to rise high in your field you need to decide which is it you want: children at some point but a slower rise to the top or a faster rise to the top based on your skill but not have children.

Well, there is a way around this dilemma. As always I have all the answers to everyone's problems.

I recommend a woman either adopt, freeze her eggs while in her late teens or early 20s so she can have children much later in life or not have children at all.

[Pjeter Pan]

She was my celebrity crush, but she had to go and do this.

Who gives a shit, women have equal rights in the western world I'm sick and tried of these femenazis saying there being oppressed. By who? Please tell me.
Femenisim now a days is the pussyification of men, degrading of society values,culture, and tradition and moslty women superiority that's about it. It doesn't need to exist anymore, not in the west atleast. Go to the middle east and preach there you whores.

[Ars Moriendi]

Nth time a vapid pop culture icon is brought forward to defend the postmodern ideology.

Only thing worth noting is how Burke's names and ideas are trashed and transformed into a cartoon. Chances are, neither the people that wrote the speech nor the girl uttering, actually know what he meant with that sentence.

[Hithaeglir]

Great speech.Though the things that she mentions,make more sense for developing countries in Africa,Asia etc where women are still treated as objects.

[TheBlondeSalad]

Why do we need gender equality though? At the end of the day, men and women have natural differences; to deny this is madness.
It's cool that they stand up for their beliefs, make it far in life, have great jobs and can show a guy who's boss but do they need to constantly rub it in? Some people, such as myself, don't give a crap.

Feminists psht :p

[Virtuous]

Apparently making all those Harry Potter films makes her someone worthy of speaking about a social issue. They might as well just grabbed anyone off the street but... she makes movies and the publicity she can generate is what it's really about for this very important social issue. As we all know women who take time off to have a child or two should be promoted in whatever business they work in despite the fact it costs the employer a shit load of money to have to scramble for someone whose lack of experience costs the company money - for that significant period of time, even if she takes off only a few months.

This is what some people don't understand: if you hire a woman who intends to have a child in the near future over that of a man your business is going to lose money. You now have to hire someone temporary to fill her important role. That's the issue. I'm fine with women working in any position they're qualified but if you intend to have a family you must understand you're less likely to get promoted. There may be thousands of people whose job security and future depends on the decision of someone in a particular position. It's unfair to those people if that position is left vacant or more likely temporarily replaced.

It is what it is. If you're a woman who wants to rise high in your field you need to decide which is it you want: children at some point but a slower rise to the top or a faster rise to the top based on your skill but not have children.

Well, there is a way around this dilemma. As always I have all the answers to everyone's problems.

I recommend a woman either adopt, freeze her eggs while in her late teens or early 20s so she can have children much later in life or not have children at all.

Last Century in Europe - The Man worked in a stable position, having a decent wage enough to feed the whole family and more.

This Century in Europe - Men and Women, married, have to work full time as well as part time, barely keeping up with the expenses of bills and having enough for a mere vacation. Women are forced by the media to act as men, degrading men to be expendable, driving up separations, divorces, depressions, single mothers and suicides.

Talk about progress...

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

She was my celebrity crush, but she had to go and do this.

Who gives a shit, women are equal rights in the western world I'm sick and tried of these cunts saying there being oppressed. By who? Please tell me.
Femenisim now a days is the pussyification of men, degrading of society values,culture, and tradition and moslty women superiority that's about it. It doesn't need to exist. Go to the middle east and preach there you whores.

My celebrity crush when I was a kid was Danielle Harris. Apparently she jumped on that ice bucket bandwagon. I have no idea what that's about but any fad celebrities jump on board typically is something that has turned lame. Celebrities jumping on whatever issue they decide to care about for a month reminds me of the Hot Topic store. Hot Topic is where what was once cool and interesting goes to die.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku2bdLUhGx8

[Raven_]

She seems more intelligent and articulate than you to be perfectly honest, and I hate feminism.

and I hate Harry Potter.

[Aviator]

Eh, the last pretty face of a dying breed.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

and I hate Harry Potter.

Yeah, that is such a lame series of books. I looked through one and I can't understand how anyone can read more than a few pages. Instead of that crap boys should be reading Sgt. Rock comic books. It made a man out of this boy.

https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/583645.jpg

http://latimesherocomplex.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/sgt-rock.jpg?w=600&h=511

So hardcore...

http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2011-11/241153480-30235112.jpg

Eh... Really?

[LightHouse89]

Great speech.Though the things that she mentions,make more sense for developing countries in Africa,Asia etc where women are still treated as objects.

why worry about what others do? how does it improve your life how they choose to live? :rolleyes:

[Jackson]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VAZx07rOKU

[Raven_]

God, so many of you hate her purely because she stars in movies and has money. Without knowing anything about her.

Classic TA general hatred. I'm just going to step away now.

But wasn't she chosen as a goodwill ambassador purely because she stars in movies?

I personally find UN ambassadors such as Waris Dirie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waris_Dirie) (a Somali woman who undergone FGM) much more compelling.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

why worry about what others do? how does it improve your life how they choose to live? :rolleyes:

She doesn't sound worried. Her post sounds like she prefers that people not be abused. How other people may treat each other in a foreign country may not effect me directly but it's only normal that I hope they live a fulfilling life with respect and dignity only because if given the choice between wishing people I never met or will meet goodwill or suffering I naturally prefer goodwill. They haven't done anything for me to feel otherwise. You get the reasoning here, you sociopath?

[Hithaeglir]

She doesn't sound worried. Her post sounds like she prefers that people not be abused. How other people may treat each other in a foreign country may not effect me directly but it's only normal that I hope they live a fulfilling life with respect and dignity only because if given the choice between wishing people I never met or will meet goodwill or suffering I naturally prefer goodwill. They haven't done anything for me to feel otherwise. You get the reasoning here, you sociopath?

Frank already answered for me :lol:

[TCDA1986]

and I hate Harry Potter.

:-0
:(
Great series of books!

[LightHouse89]

She doesn't sound worried. Her post sounds like she prefers that people not be abused. How other people may treat each other in a foreign country may not effect me directly but it's only normal that I hope they live a fulfilling life with respect and dignity only because if given the choice between wishing people I never met or will meet goodwill or suffering I naturally prefer goodwill. They haven't done anything for me to feel otherwise. You get the reasoning here, you sociopath?

my point is who gives a shit what people do in other countries? Sociopath? I think left wing rejects like you are sociopaths.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

I'll be honest, if Emily Browning gave the same speech I'd be all like, "she's totally right." Keep in mind if she also said we should commit genocide against a group of people I'd also say she's right. She can tell me anything and I'd say she's right.

So hawt...

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/emily-emily-browning-697690_1036_1500.jpg

[Raikaswinþs]

Go Emma Watson! One of the most beautiful women in the world, and also a smart smart girl.


Watson delivered an inspiring speech about feminism at the United Nations Headquarters in New York yesterday, saying there is a need for more feminists in society and called on men to advocate gender equality. In her speech, Watson described her decision to become a feminist as “uncomplicated,” but that she was shocked to find that society associated it with being “too strong, too aggressive, anti-men, unattractive.”

Here's the full transcript, and the video. She is totally on point, IMO.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-iFl4qhBsE


While I won't deny that Emma Watson is good looking,I don't know why every average good-looking girl that becomes superfamous, suddenly becomes "one of the most beatuiful women", or "one of the most desired women IN THE WORLD". She woulrn't have even been the prettiest girl of my first year of uni class....let alone one of the most beautiful women in the world.

Also, being pretty and superfamous, and being able to realize that sexism is a problem (you only need qn IQ of 80 to come to that conclusion and the only research you do is being alive) doesn't stoph er for being completelly wrong (as most feminists are) about what the roots of sexist behaviour are and how we can help building a more equal society. All she does is parrot the same cliches you hear from other third wave "pop-culture critics and intellectuals"

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

my point is who gives a shit what people do in other countries? Sociopath? I think left wing rejects like you are sociopaths.

First person who has read my posts and thinks I'm left wing.

[LightHouse89]

I'll be honest, if Emily Browning gave the same speech I'd be all like, "she's totally right." Keep in mind if she also said we should commit genocide against a group of people I'd also say she's right. She can tell me anything and I'd say she's right.

So hawt...

http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/emily-emily-browning-697690_1036_1500.jpg

who gives a shit what other people do if it does not affect you what so ever? enlightened left wing liberal. come on answer my question.

[LightHouse89]

First person who has read my posts and thinks I'm left wing.

what do you think liberals are? LOL my god you are dumb.

[Musso]

Feminism has wrecked Europe. A woman should be a woman, a man a man.

[Alenka]

I feel more oppressed by feminists than I do by men.

[Musso]

I feel more oppressed by feminists than I do by men.

your avatar attests to that :D

[Jackson]

This is a good short version for everyone who can't be bothered to watch the last video i posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfyDWnQ_IQA

[Kale]

Yes, I completely agree, let's get gender equality. Men get fucked over too much by this current system, equality for men!

On another note, I don't think calling feminists "feminazis" is really appropriate...that's an insult to National Socialists everywhere.

[Petalpusher]

Richard Dawkins will never get tired of his little disguise to play trollop.

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m585/ninetynine99/22l5lc.gif

[LightHouse89]

Richard Dawkins will never get tired of his little disguise to play trollop.

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m585/ninetynine99/22l5lc.gif

LOL hahahahahaha

[War Chef]

Sensitive men = life time of virginity. The moment you're all "sensitive and stuff" is the moment the woman loses all respect for you. No woman gets aroused by a guy talking about his feelings. What they think is "oh I'm talking to a chick with a dick."

Sad but true, it comes off as unstable. But still, regardless of what women want, it's healthier to be sensitive than to be some emotionless automaton. There are too many injustices in the world to act as if you don't care.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

what do you think liberals are? LOL my god you are dumb.

You're the only one who refers to me as a liberal in the modern American sense (which is left of center here in the US but elsewhere the term has a different meaning. The change in meaning here in the US was done in the 30s when the term was co-opted by New Deal types). Lets see... either you're mentally handicap or everyone else is...

I have this funny feeling, based on your history to mesh ideas up in your head, turn them all around, and then spout them out in a vaguely coherent way that you're going to educate me on the term. Please do so... We all need a good laugh.

[CordedWhelp]

The very name of the campaign isn't very "gender neutral". It has a bias, implying that males are the more flawed/need the more change...

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Richard Dawkins will never get tired of his little disguise to play trollop.

http://i1133.photobucket.com/albums/m585/ninetynine99/22l5lc.gif

I'll be staring for hours.

[Rædwald]

I think it's absolutely preposterous that a multi-millionaire child can stand in front of the UN. Then half sniveling speaking of how women are not equal to men is so abhorrently disingenuous that I fail to understand why she wasn't laughed off the stage. How in the world is anyone expected to consider the UN with any kind of validity after this is completely and utterly beyond me.

She was acting, this woman has never been discouraged from doing anything in her life because of her gender. To suggest such a thing is absurd, despite how "triggered" she might have been by being called 'bossy' in her youth. Kindly fuck off you dopey tart!

Excuse the run on sentence, this shit makes my blood boil.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Sad but true, it comes off as unstable. But still, regardless of what women want, it's healthier to be sensitive than to be some emotionless automaton. There are too many injustices in the world to act as if you don't care.

The type of sensitivity she is talking about as I understood from the reading the article is to talk about your emotions. To "open up" as they say. Generally speaking (and by general I mean 90% of the female population) women don't actually want to hear that from you. They want to see you as a rock during the storm. Someone they know won't crack in a bad situation. Being open about your feelings gradually chips away at this perception they have of you. Anytime you show your significant other that you can't handle whatever life throws your way, which is what you do when you talk about your feelings too often, is a nail in the coffin of that relationship at best. At worst she'll loss respect for you and boss you around if she is of that character.

[Freeroostah]

Who the fuck is Emma Watson?

The hot chick who played in Harry Potter series.

[War Chef]

The type of sensitivity she is talking about as I understood from the reading the article is to talk about your emotions. To "open up" as they say. Generally speaking (and by general I mean 90% of the female population) women don't actually want to hear that from you. They want to see you as a rock during the storm. Someone they know won't crack in a bad situation. Being open about your feelings gradually chips away at this perception they have of you. Anytime you show your significant other that you can't handle whatever life throws your way, which is what you do when you talk about your feelings too often, is a nail in the coffin of that relationship at best. At worst she'll loss respect for you and boss you around if she is of that character.

Ahhh then I can see what she's getting at, though I don't fully agree. If you ever been around a drunk man you'll notice they get all "I just wanted to say, I love you man" and start acting all emotional. I think that's because during sober life they feel as men, they are not allowed to express their emotions so they hold them internally, and later the alcohol releases that. Anyway that said, why would any man "open up"? I mean there are only certain times for that, like death of family member, but all the other reasons are petty 1st world problems and pathetic. Most of the suicides she's talking about are pathetic too, like "I don't know where my life is going" or "my GF/BF just broke up with me". To "open up" is basically to ask for self-pity, that's all you will ever get from others. I don't know why Emma thinks this is a good thing, I definitely don't need anyone's sympathy.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

Ahhh then I can see what she's getting at, though I don't fully agree. If you ever been around a drunk man you'll notice they get all "I just wanted to say, I love you man" and start acting all emotional. I think that's because during sober life they feel as men, they are not allowed to express their emotions so they hold them internally, and later the alcohol releases that.

That makes me uncomfortable. What is already understood doesn't need to be said. I think it has to do with the other person's insecurities.


Anyway that said, why would any man "open up"? I mean there are only certain times for that, like death of family member, but all the other reasons are petty 1st world problems and pathetic. Most of the suicides she's talking about are pathetic too, like "I don't know where my life is going" or "my GF/BF just broke up with me". To "open up" is basically to ask for self-pity, that's all you will ever get from others.

Right. It doesn't make the guy look stable. It makes him look weak in her eyes and chips away at her affection for him. Only a domineering woman actually wants a man who is emotionally weak.


I don't know why Emma thinks this is a good thing, I definitely don't need anyone's sympathy.

Because thinking something is what they want isn't the same as feeling drawn to something they want. They can say whatever they like but they can't control what they find attractive. Just like men can't pretend to be physically attracted to someone they're not.

[Virtuous]

Alright, I might reconsider what I said about her looks.

https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1488327_670632626317264_1072593766_n.jpg?oh=848867 0e56741be1c3dc579e24d5aedc&oe=54B7E86F

[StonyArabia]

The world needs more women like her