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Anglojew
09-23-2014, 02:47 PM
If a terrible cataclysm destroyed Africa today, what aspects of the African contribution to the world, would global civilisation miss?

In what ways would our civilisation suffer without their input?

Grenzland
09-23-2014, 02:51 PM
Resources.

That's it.

EyeOfTheTiger
09-23-2014, 03:00 PM
no african slaves

Virtuous
09-23-2014, 03:01 PM
Resources.

That's it.

No mate, pressure from a meteor impact would give us more diamonds and less negroes.

Hubal
09-23-2014, 06:07 PM
I like diamonds.

Ars Moriendi
09-23-2014, 06:12 PM
Food, oil, coltan, gold, ivory.

Flat screen TVs and laptops would become a luxury item, lack in oil would perhaps bring a hard stop to most industrial activities, loss of gold would deepen they financial crisis, food would ecome much more expensive and force even further starvation in poor parts of Europe and Asia.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 06:24 PM
Typical Zionist. Greedy Jew!! they only like steal Africa, don't even fink closer.

>>> Do you know your ancestors?? who created and why?/

Dombra
09-23-2014, 06:28 PM
We would lose resources but nothing else

I would miss lions and other animals though. At least we have them in zoos

JoeyGee8688
09-23-2014, 06:29 PM
Do you mean if the continent sank into the ocean, or rather if Africans, specifically Negros, were "wiped out" somehow?

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 06:36 PM
All of you post reply this thread, you are subhuman plus haters, loosers but nothing!! Leave Africa alone, doesn't needs your crap. chill

Immortal Technique
09-23-2014, 06:38 PM
Yeah let our holy land be free,and enjoy our nature.

TheGoldenSon
09-23-2014, 06:40 PM
Well, if whatever God or Gods are out there, took pity on mankind and removed the Jews out of equation, I would miss your world play and linguistic dancing from which I can never be bored with.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 06:46 PM
I wish I could kick each and every white man's @ss back to where they come from because majority are Evil and sinful. mean



>>>> Africa is for Africans, and Europe is for Europeans, get back to your continent and fuck multicultural.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 06:47 PM
Well, if whatever God or Gods are out there, took pity on mankind and removed the Jews out of equation, I would miss your world play and linguistic dancing from which I can never be bored with.

Jewish my @ss. subhuman Kufaars. what can you do?? don't hesitate to strike back. Am ready for whatever dude. :confused:

Aviator
09-23-2014, 06:57 PM
Let's wait and find out.

Ebola, anyone?

Petros Houhoulis
09-23-2014, 07:07 PM
Food, oil, coltan, gold, ivory.

Flat screen TVs and laptops would become a luxury item, lack in oil would perhaps bring a hard stop to most industrial activities, loss of gold would deepen they financial crisis, food would ecome much more expensive and force even further starvation in poor parts of Europe and Asia.

Africa is actually importing food. It has become overpopulated. Some crops like coffee might get expensive, but it's not the end of the world.

Oil is mainly produced in Asia, either Arab states or Russia. Still, Africa consumes less oil than it produces. A small bump in prices.

Coltan is produced mainly outside of Africa, but still Africa consumes very little of that. A small bump in the price here also, but what shall be really missed is the dumping ground for old electronics from Europe and North America. Africa is full of old electronic:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A5zVNpkuzk

Gold? Nah! The Niggas shall stop using gold for Jewellery, to the point of destroying their teeth!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itOqbjqKFlk

Man, Ivory is BANNED. Still, geneticists shall find a way to clone the stuff in their laboratories. They have elephants in India too.

I'll miss the African twerking though!

Petros Houhoulis
09-23-2014, 07:13 PM
I wish I could kick each and every white man's @ss back to where they come from because majority are Evil and sinful. mean



>>>> Africa is for Africans, and Europe is for Europeans, get back to your continent and fuck multicultural.

Hey, North Africa is white! You blacks are only south of the Sahara! You shouldn't cross north of the Sahara!!!

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 07:19 PM
Hey, North Africa is white! You blacks are only south of the Sahara! You shouldn't cross north of the Sahara!!!

Petros, Greece not invited in this thread. Will battle some other times, not now. Zip

Petros Houhoulis
09-23-2014, 07:27 PM
Petros, Greece not invited in this thread. Will battle some other times, not now. Zip

http://www.newvitruvian.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/troll2.jpg

mikhail
09-23-2014, 07:29 PM
Nobody would suffer at all if Africa and all of it's inhabitants were destroyed, If Africa was destroyed, the West would stop having to pay subsidies to Africa, and the Africans would no longer have to live their shitty existence, no one suffers :D

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 07:32 PM
Nobody would suffer at all if Africa and all of it's inhabitants were destroyed, If Africa was destroyed, the West would stop having to pay subsidies to Africa, and the Africans would no longer have to live their shitty existence, no one suffers :D

What did you just says Goat??

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 07:33 PM
http://www.newvitruvian.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/troll2.jpg

^^ Troll. No: 1 are GAYreece

mikhail
09-23-2014, 07:40 PM
What did you just says Goat??

Nobody would care if everyone in Africa just died. Nobody. If anyone did care, it would be out of relief that their money no longer goes to this bottomless black hole known as never ending African problems. Why can't the Africans do something themselves for once?

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 07:51 PM
Nobody would care if everyone in Africa just died. Nobody. If anyone did care, it would be out of relief that their money no longer goes to this bottomless black hole known as never ending African problems. Why can't the Africans do something themselves for once?

Beside what you saw on TV, do you know how is like Africa??

Petros Houhoulis
09-23-2014, 08:00 PM
^^ Troll. No: 1 are GAYreece

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQUGwfCcDy1C_E6zxfmB13bgfSTDXo8t FUp8R8UIHDfgi53VSozfw

mikhail
09-23-2014, 08:00 PM
Beside what you saw on TV, do you know have how is like Africa??

Hell.

Petros Houhoulis
09-23-2014, 08:01 PM
Let's wait and find out.

Ebola, anyone?

No thanks, I'll pick Malaria!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5HBKJwViaM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqsizNMI6g8

Gaston
09-23-2014, 08:03 PM
I don't know how this can happen: Africa is big and any massive destruction there whould immediately destroy the surrounding regions ("Europe" and Southwestern "Asia") and affect the whole planet.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 08:07 PM
I hardly lough at these Wangisters above teasing Africa or hating Africans while they know fok0l. bisinka

Immortal Technique
09-23-2014, 08:09 PM
Most of them are retarded kids or rednecks looking for a revenge cause someone bullied them in life...

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 08:10 PM
Hell.

>> You are Bulgarian and Orthodox. You got very low IQ indeed. I wasted my time with you. sorry. *_*

Petros Houhoulis
09-23-2014, 08:10 PM
I don't know how this can happen: Africa is big and any massive destruction there whould immediately destroy the surrounding regions ("Europe" and Southwestern "Asia") and affect the whole planet.

Too many Niggas on the loose?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation#Africa


Africa[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_overpopulation&action=edit&section=16)]

In Africa, if current trends of soil degradation and population growth continue, the continent might be able to feed just 25% of its population by 2025, according to UNU (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_University)'s Ghana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghana)-based Institute for Natural Resources in Africa.[192] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation#cite_note-192)
Hunger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunger) and malnutrition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malnutrition) kill nearly 6 million children a year, and more people are malnourished in sub-Saharan Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-Saharan_Africa) this decade than in the 1990s, according to a report released by the Food and Agriculture Organization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Agriculture_Organization). In sub-Saharan Africa, the number of malnourished people grew to 203.5 million people in 2000–02 from 170.4 million 10 years earlier says The State of Food Insecurity in the World report. In 2001, 46.4% of people in sub-Saharan Africa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sub-Saharan_Africa) were living in extreme poverty.[193] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation#cite_note-193)

mikhail
09-23-2014, 08:11 PM
I hardly lough at these Wangisters above teasing Africa or hating Africans while they know fok0l. bisinka

Why do you try to deny that Africa sucks?

Africa=http://i58.tinypic.com/2na31n8.jpg

mikhail
09-23-2014, 08:13 PM
>> You are Bulgarian and Orthodox. You got very low IQ indeed. I wasted my time with you. sorry. *_*

lol says the African. You live off food and water donations, and you probably have an IQ of below 70.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 08:16 PM
Most of them are retarded kids or rednecks looking for a revenge cause someone bullied them in life...

I swear to GOD what you saying is so true, I've seen similar people, they have been rejected in life somehow. May GOD make easier for them.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 08:18 PM
Yow. Most of Rednecks I've seen, they can't read fok0l and they fink they superior. dirty minded.

Norman
09-23-2014, 08:20 PM
May GOD make easier for them.
What about doing it yourself instead of waiting for a handout from god?

Immortal Technique
09-23-2014, 08:21 PM
Dirty minds,insecurity,jealousy,and complex inferiority make them act like this,poor sheeps.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 08:22 PM
Too many Niggas on the loose?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_overpopulation#Africa

>> Why you "BOLD" the text?? we can see and read your stereotype, faggot we need no Glasses.

mikhail
09-23-2014, 08:23 PM
Yow. Most of Rednecks I've seen, they can't read fok0l and they fink they superior. dirty minded.

Almost nobody here is American, and what's fokol?

Bloodnigger
09-23-2014, 08:24 PM
What about doing it yourself instead of waiting for a handout from god?

AWWWWWWWW SNAAAAAAP

Petros Houhoulis
09-23-2014, 08:24 PM
Yow. Most of Rednecks I've seen, they can't read fok0l and they fink they superior. dirty minded.

Of course we are superior. We have developed something you shall never grasp:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/03/05/condom.jpg

It makes us immune to this:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Yvd1Yi3z-UU/hqdefault.jpg

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 08:25 PM
What about doing it yourself instead of waiting for a handout from god?

Obviously, when I say may GOD make easier for them< I mean: These Skinhead dudes above you who has been rejected.

Äijä
09-23-2014, 08:28 PM
I wish I could kick each and every white man's @ss back to where they come from because majority are Evil and sinful. mean



>>>> Africa is for Africans, and Europe is for Europeans, get back to your continent and fuck multicultural.

Somalis dont like to live in Africa.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 08:28 PM
Almost nobody here is American, and what's fokol?

^^ When I say you've got low IQ is so true, instead of asking me why can't you google it hey?/ I know what I mean and I wun't tell u.

Bloodnigger
09-23-2014, 08:29 PM
^^ When I say you've got low IQ is so true, instead of asking me why can't you google it hey?/ I know what I mean and I wun't tell u.

Who wants to learn, much less use, SA slang?

Keep chimpin' on my congoid friend.

Petros Houhoulis
09-23-2014, 08:29 PM
>> Why you "BOLD" the text?? we can see because we need no Glasses.

You need a brain, not glasses.

Except when you need both:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A_deficiency


Vitamin A deficiency (VAD) is a lack of vitamin A (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A) in humans. It is common in poorer countries but rarely seen in more developed countries. Nyctalopia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyctalopia) (night blindness) is one of the first signs of VAD. Xerophthalmia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerophthalmia),keratomalacia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratomalacia), and complete blindness can also occur since Vitamin A has a major role in phototransduction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_phototransduction).Approximately 250,000 to 500,000 malnourished children in the developing world go blind each year from a deficiency of vitamin A, approximately half of whom die within a year of becoming blind. The United Nations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations) Special Session on Children in 2002 set a goal of the elimination of VAD by 2010.
The prevalence of night blindness (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_blindness) due to VAD is also high among pregnant women in many developing countries. VAD also contributes to maternal mortality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maternal_mortality) and other poor outcomes in pregnancy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pregnancy) and lactation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lactation).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A_deficiency#cite_note-WHO_Vitamin_A_deficiency_.7C_Micronutrient_deficie ncies-1)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A_deficiency#cite_note-isbn92-5-103818-X-2)[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A_deficiency#cite_note-isbn92-4-154478-3-3)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A_deficiency#cite_note-A_world_fit_for_children-4)
VAD also diminishes the ability to fight infections. In countries where children are not immunized (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immunization_(medicine)), infectious diseases like measles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles) have higher fatality rates. As elucidated by Alfred Sommer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Sommer_(ophthalmologist)), even mild, subclinical deficiency can also be a problem, as it may increase children's risk of developing respiratory and diarrheal infections, decrease growth rate, slow bone development, and decrease likelihood of survival from serious illness.
VAD is estimated to affect approximately one third of children under the age of five around the world.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A_deficiency#cite_note-5) It is estimated to claim the lives of 670,000 children under five annually.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_A_deficiency#cite_note-6) Approximately 250,000–500,000 children in developing countries become blind each year owing to VAD, with the highest prevalence in Southeast Asia and Africa. According to the World Health Organization (WHO), VAD is under control in the United States, but, in developing countries, VAD is a significant concern.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Vitamin_A_deficiency.PNG

Are you sure you don't suffer from Vitamin A deficiency? Even if you don't, some other African trying to read the article might really need help, much like Hitler did during the last years of his life...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Z6YbGSu5c

Immortal Technique
09-23-2014, 08:31 PM
I predict petros family member got fucked by some black dude.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 08:32 PM
Somalis dont like to live in Africa.

So,..??

Bloodnigger
09-23-2014, 08:34 PM
So,..??

http://filesmelt.com/dl/titanicgetout.gif

Äijä
09-23-2014, 08:35 PM
So,..??

So I support your idea that they are forced to go back to Africa, where they are also hated like in all other continents.

Petros Houhoulis
09-23-2014, 08:39 PM
I predict Petros family member got fucked by some black dude.

Prediction is for something set in the future.

Do you mean that I'll go to Athens and fuck some underage Somali whore???

Norman
09-23-2014, 08:40 PM
This silly believe in fairy-tales will not help you in any way.
This has been "discovered" by anyone else > "gold helps those who help themself"
Other nations had been occupied, other nations face corruption.... but other nations still made it.
If you want to be equal, become equal. Thumbing me down will get you the same result as praying.
A short time of satisfaction but the problem will not go away.

And I have not even addressed your "go back to your country"-bullshit.
Strange that South-Africa is the only one which made it somehow. I guess there is an other
"mentality".

Immortal Technique
09-23-2014, 08:41 PM
Prediction is for something set in the future.

Do you mean that I'll go to Athens and fuck some underage Somali whore???

Nah,your female member went black and you are so mad ,poison eatin you inside don't worry brothas take care of these brave girls eh eh eh eh.

Äijä
09-23-2014, 08:44 PM
If a terrible cataclysm destroyed Africa today, what aspects of the African contribution to the world, would global civilisation miss?

In what ways would our civilisation suffer without their input?

We would not have General Butt Nakeds.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/27/article-1333465-0C423427000005DC-30_468x548.jpg

http://static.squarespace.com/static/514390b8e4b0d8ae426207b3/t/51f89915e4b0f03726672352/1375246615281/1%20gbn.PNG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5Eg4RrIVB8E/UCXNo9nKojI/AAAAAAAAIRU/VxOTVoea-7o/s1600/Ch4.True.Stories.2011.The.Redemption.of.General.Bu tt.Naked.PDTV.x264.AAC.MVGroup.Forum.mkv_snapshot_ 00.05.59_%5B2012.08.11_05.02.47%5D.png

http://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Human-Sacrifice-General-Butt-Naked-Montage.jpg

mikhail
09-23-2014, 08:47 PM
^^ When I say you've got low IQ is so true, instead of asking me why can't you google it hey?/ I know what I mean and I wun't tell u.

http://i62.tinypic.com/2j0cuah.jpg

Petros Houhoulis
09-23-2014, 09:07 PM
This silly believe in fairy-tales will not help you in any way.
This has been "discovered" by anyone else > "gold helps those who help themself"
Other nations had been occupied, other nations face corruption.... but other nations still made it.
If you want to be equal, become equal. Thumbing me down will get you the same result as praying.
A short time of satisfaction but the problem will not go away.

And I have not even addressed your "go back to your country"-bullshit.
Strange that South-Africa is the only one which made it somehow. I guess there is an other
"mentality".

The different mentality is a result of South Africa being outside of the tropical zone:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52WgIDa4TUs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znpG7uzwyrU

Petros Houhoulis
09-23-2014, 09:11 PM
Nah,your female member went black and you are so mad ,poison eatin you inside don't worry brothas take care of these brave girls eh eh eh eh.

Nah! The few female members of my family have not been with a black guy, and in any case, you just can't make me mad because of such an incident. I got mad at Wadaad for his treatment of the Rotherham victims' fathers, and I won't stop trolling until he explodes...

Anglojew
09-23-2014, 10:25 PM
Typical Zionist. Greedy Jew!! they only like steal Africa, don't even fink closer.

>>> Do you know your ancestors?? who created and why?/

Lol, how is imagining a world without you "stealing"?

Somalia has nothing to "steal" anyway, the Arabs took it all when they took over. Now you worship them.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 11:02 PM
So I support your idea that they are forced to go back to Africa, where they are also hated like in all other continents.
I don't get your point.

Anglojew
09-23-2014, 11:08 PM
Typical Zionist. Greedy Jew!! they only like steal Africa, don't even fink closer.

>>> Do you know your ancestors?? who created and why?/

Also, you write in a European language
You live in a european founded country
You use European/American/Israeli technology to do so
You wear western clothing
Your religion is Arabian

What exactly haven't you stolen?

albosomething
09-23-2014, 11:11 PM
Food, oil, coltan, gold, ivory.

Flat screen TVs and laptops would become a luxury item, lack in oil would perhaps bring a hard stop to most industrial activities, loss of gold would deepen they financial crisis, food would ecome much more expensive and force even further starvation in poor parts of Europe and Asia.

I fail to see how people would starve because of africa?

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 11:13 PM
Lol, how is imagining a world without you "stealing"?

Somalia has nothing to "steal" anyway, the Arabs took it all when they took over. Now you worship them.

^^ We got biggest resources and our country still a virgin. You are politician, you want me to insult Arabs?/ I wun't do that because what you saying is not based on true. Somali are there own race and I said every time, no one can control us and tell us what to do, there were only merchants trade between us with Arabs. Seems you don't know historical linked between Somalia and Arabs.


>>> We worship nothing but GOD.

Bloodnigger
09-23-2014, 11:14 PM
>>> We worship nothing but GOD.

Yes, the Arab one.

Sikeliot
09-23-2014, 11:21 PM
Somalis should hate Arabs, the people who exploited and enslaved them and treat them like shit in the Arabian Peninsula, not hating on Jews.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 11:22 PM
I fail to see how people would starve because of africa?

^^ You are typical Slave of Turkish, so, this issue doesn't concern you at all, you've got issue which needs to be address, when it comes to Balkan's issue, talk about Genocide faced your forefathers. Now this issue is between "Jew and real White man", not these fake once up there hey!! bounce out now.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 11:31 PM
Somalis should hate Arabs, the people who exploited and enslaved them and treat them like shit in the Arabian Peninsula, not hating on Jews.

^^ Arabs Slave Somalis, that is pure lairs created by western historian authors. Somali never Slave Arabs. The fact is: We were allies with Arab nations and Europeans did not take an interest in Somalia until the late 1800s. Europeans only came to Somalia when Sayid Abdullah start Jihad against Britain and Italians take advantage on that, both Italian and British they never slept one night a proper. :mad:

C'mon guys be realistic, why you all against Somalis, this proves that we superior to you all. :thumb001:

Prince Of Macrobia
09-23-2014, 11:45 PM
http://filesmelt.com/dl/titanicgetout.gif

To where??

Norman
09-23-2014, 11:48 PM
this proves that we superior to you all. :thumb001:
http://i57.tinypic.com/2hhf2tu.gif

Anglojew
09-23-2014, 11:51 PM
Somalis should hate Arabs, the people who exploited and enslaved them and treat them like shit in the Arabian Peninsula, not hating on Jews.

Jews had a minor role in African slavery compared to the Arabs. Ever. Somalis were heavily involved in enslaving Bantus

Anglojew
09-23-2014, 11:52 PM
To where??

No, please stay in Africa.

Sikeliot
09-24-2014, 12:04 AM
Jews had a minor role in African slavery compared to the Arabs. Ever. Somalis were heavily involved in enslaving Bantus

So why did you thumbs down my comment?

Prince Of Macrobia
09-24-2014, 12:19 AM
Slave is someone who has been taken from his home to another country/continet.

Somali never been forced Slaved but Somali peninsula was man port to pass. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Somalia

http://i62.tinypic.com/2j3of9k.jpg
The trade routes of slaves in medieval Africa


>>We fought against Slaves and all that shit. This was Arab thung, has nothing to do with Somali, we been main passage port in Indian Ocean.

Norman
09-24-2014, 12:29 AM
Slave is someone who has been taken from his home to another country/continet.
A Slave is a human who is property of someone.
He doesn´t have to move and shit, u now bro?

albosomething
09-24-2014, 12:34 AM
^^ You are typical Slave of Turkish, so, this issue doesn't concern you at all, you've got issue which needs to be address, when it comes to Balkan's issue, talk about Genocide faced your forefathers. Now this issue is between "Jew and real White man", not these fake once up there hey!! bounce out now.

chill, why areyou talking like a bitch on pms.

I was just asking . Also your signature design looks like those experimental artists who paint while on lsd

Anglojew
09-24-2014, 12:43 AM
So why did you thumbs down my comment?

Jews didn't enslave Somalis. Was your comment sarcastic?

Sikeliot
09-24-2014, 01:08 AM
Jews didn't enslave Somalis. Was your comment sarcastic?

My comment doesn't say that they did. Read it closely.

Anglojew
09-24-2014, 01:37 AM
My comment doesn't say that they did. Read it closely.

Ahh, apologies! I have a tendency to speed read and skim stuff

Petros Houhoulis
09-24-2014, 12:36 PM
I don't get your point.

This is his point:

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=323249


The Dangers of Qabilism (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=323249#p3923207)

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3923207#p3923207)by CushiticReflections (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=171504) » Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:03 pm
May Peace be upon you.

Qabilism is the discrimination, hatred, and biases held against any tribe or sub-tribe. Due to the perceived wrongdoings or "inferiority" or "superiority" of any tribe, people feel that they are justified in drawing blanket generalizations about that tribe, discriminating against them, and ultimately hating them. This is a poison that is eating away at our people, nation, and culture. Our nation's present state has its many factors but none can deny that qabilism is the main obstacle to our unity. What else stops Somalis from looking at their brothers and sisters as part of a unified whole? It is our tribalist sentiments.

Without qabilism, it is likely that we may be able to unite to build up our country, strengthen our culture, and resist all of those who wish to exploit or harm us. Somalis are a very resourceful, intelligent, resilient, charming, beautiful, and business-oriented people. We could do wonders and build a future so bright that other struggling nations might take note and model their development after ours. Yet, due to our stubbornness, arrogance, and ignorance, we're not living up to our potential and our nation is regularly brought up in any discussion about failed states or seemingly hopeless nations.


How is it that Somalia is one of the most homogenous countries in the world - with one culture, one language, one people, one religion... and yet we're always warring. And because of familial ties - after all, that is what qabils are ultimately. Even outside of Somalia, we are warring with each other. Just look at how Somalis tear each other down, even on snet, because of qabil or veiled qabilism.

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=154670


I am Quitting Qabilism .............. (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=154670#p1850819)

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1850819#p1850819)by AbdiWahab252 (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=27472) » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:09 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen,

I am quitting qabilism.

My friend and a die hard ally of mine got the ultimate surprise. His sister is marrying into the very tribe we both despise.

I can not afford to have all the qabiils I disliked over the years find a way into my life.

Just like how racist Cadan come home one day after a hard day of work to find their favorite daughter has brought home the most Madow of Madow home from College, I can not afford to have certain things enter my life.

With that, I cease all qabili hostilities.

Good health, peace and prosperity to all Somali Mohamed.


Abdiwahab Ahmed Ali

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=348423


I quit qabilism (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=348423#p4232068)

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=4232068#p4232068)by Caesar (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=174176) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:15 pm
For good this time

I apolgize to all the clans i insulted, darood hawiye isaaq and whomever else

the hating has left a bad taste in my stomach http://www.somalinet.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif , i sincerely apologize

Hopefully Allah forgives me most of all i aint going to hell over this qabil bulshit


http://www.somalinet.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=84929


FEAR OF QABILISM (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=84929#p1121898)

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1121898#p1121898)by Galol (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=4994) » Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:05 pm
I am always intrigued by the fear to `admit' to Qabilism among urban Somalis including those in the diaspora.

This is totally different from my generation's genuine disbelief of Qabilism which sadly only `affected' a very small group going through the education system in the late 60s, 70s and 80s.

The rest of Somalis generally believe in Qabiil including some `reverts' from my lot.

But many will not openly admit to it. I find that fascinating and in some ways encouraging.


Why do clearly Qabilist Somalis so desperately hide their Qabilism at least in public? Is this a good thing in the sense that people innately know Qabilism is a bad thing but they cant help being Qabilist? Or just plain hypocrisy designed to put one over the `enemy' clans?

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=108807


Ramadan is on the way, leave Qabilism! (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=108807#p1414537)

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1414537#p1414537)by paidmonk (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=128871) » Tue Jun 26, 2007 2:49 pm
Darood must forgive Hawiye for misplaced grief. Isaaq must forgive Darood for the same. Raxanweyn must forgive Hawiye for the same. And Hawive must forgive Isaaq and Darood for the above-mentioned. And we must all seek forgiveness from Bantus and other minorities.

Ramadan is coming, do you want to wallow in this filth called Qabilism or do you want to seek a higher path? You can, and you must!


You have less than 3 months remaining, make your choice, and you only have this chance.

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=126392




I quit qabilism for Islam (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=126392#p1551223)

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1551223#p1551223)by Somali_4Life (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=138073) » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:05 am
Qabilism and qabilists will die someday but islam stays!
The thing that brought me in Europe is the extreme form of qabiil(''only a man of my tribe can be leader,not yours'').
The thing that destroys somalia is Qabiil.
To avoid falling into qabilism i will not call my enemies by their qabiil.To me they are munafiqeen.



ps This change is not because Ramadan is coming.Wallah i will try to stay this way until the next ramadan of 2008.

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=252134


northerners invented qabilism (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=252134#p2909782)

http://www.somalinet.com/forums/styles/prosilver/imageset/icon_post_target.gif (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=2909782#p2909782)by omar07 (http://www.somalinet.com/forums/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=135488) » Fri Aug 06, 2010 9:17 am
how come more people in S/land P/land are qabiil mentality than compare to the southerners ?
You become friends with each one them and before they even ask your name, they want to know
what background you are.

Does this mean these folks are racist/qabiliste more than folks any parts of Somalia ?


Ogaden people are the best, never do they care who you are as long you aint xabash ... http://www.somalinet.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

Somali tribes engage each other:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CD8947DMjDc/UIrJSe8lF-I/AAAAAAAAGQ4/VaIBye4o2Mo/s640/hero.jpg

PS

If you see that other monkey, Wadaad, can you ask him if Qabilism is compatible with Islam?

Oh fuck, never mind, I'll do it. I love shitting all over his head after all...

Petros Houhoulis
09-24-2014, 12:46 PM
^^ Arabs Slave Somalis, that is pure lairs created by western historian authors. Somali never Slave Arabs. The fact is: We were allies with Arab nations and Europeans did not take an interest in Somalia until the late 1800s. Europeans only came to Somalia when Sayid Abdullah start Jihad against Britain and Italians take advantage on that, both Italian and British they never slept one night a proper. :mad:

C'mon guys be realistic, why you all against Somalis, this proves that we superior to you all. :thumb001:

Actually, we are not against Somalis. We don't give a shit about Somalis. Just stay away from civilization!

In fact, the Somalis are against the Somalis. During the last civil wars in Somalia, you had 300.000 dead and 500.000 dead... You have been way more successful at killing each other than we have bothered to kill Somalis...

Prince Of Macrobia
09-24-2014, 12:59 PM
Who wants to learn, much less use, SA slang?

Keep chimpin' on my congoid friend.

^^ I'm not interested talking with you. You are annoying, so, shut the f@ck up.

Anglojew
09-24-2014, 01:30 PM
^^ I'm not interested talking with you. You are annoying, so, shut the f@ck up.

Could you answer the thread question?

alfieb
09-24-2014, 01:31 PM
A lot of Jews would suffer, as there would be far less gold and diamonds on the market for them to buy.

LightHouse89
09-24-2014, 01:53 PM
nothing LOL

Prince Of Macrobia
09-24-2014, 11:04 PM
Could you answer the thread question?

Well, Obviously, Jerusalem will face destruction first before it comes to Africa and Ashkenazis would become headless chicken. is n't it bit fare??

Petros Houhoulis
09-24-2014, 11:26 PM
Well, Obviously, Jerusalem will face destruction first before it comes to Africa and Ashkenazis would become headless. is n't it bit fare??

Jerusalem is sacred to Muslims. If it gets destroyed, you shall be mourning bitterly!!!

Prince Of Macrobia
09-24-2014, 11:30 PM
Jerusalem is sacred to Muslims. If it gets destroyed, you shall be mourning bitterly!!!

^^ Jerusalem it was a Holy City but now is a blood shell city and GOD doesn't need that, so he will begun with them before it reaches destruction rest of the world. Maybe Athens afterwords!! who knows??

Petros Houhoulis
09-24-2014, 11:37 PM
^^ Jerusalem it was a Holy City but now is a blood shell city and GOD doesn't need that, so he will begun with them before it reaches destruction rest of the world. Maybe Athens afterwords!! who knows??

How do you know what god needs and doesn't need? Do you talk to him frequently? Care to share any of his other future plans???

BTW, I don't give a shit about Athens. With 4 million people living there, it is as good as destroyed already. I live elsewhere...

Prince Of Macrobia
09-24-2014, 11:48 PM
How do you know what god needs and doesn't need? Do you talk to him frequently? Care to share any of his other future plans???

BTW, I don't give a shit about Athens. With 4 million people living there, it is as good as destroyed already. I live elsewhere...

I like everyone in this world to face hardship and destruction cuz is already mess. *_*
I communicate with him on prayer, and I hear angels were saying that anyone mess with God's people would face consequences. Istaqfurallah

Dictator
09-24-2014, 11:50 PM
I like everyone in this world to face hardship and destruction cuz is already mess. *_*
I communicate with him on prayer, and I hear angels were saying that anyone mess with God's people would face consequences. lol

Seek a psychiatrist.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-25-2014, 12:01 AM
Seek a psychiatrist.

I did that, but Dr says:Am half way mad. j/k

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 12:03 AM
I like everyone in this world to face hardship and destruction cuz is already mess. *_*
I communicate with him on prayer, and I hear angels were saying that anyone mess with God's people would face consequences. Istaqfurallah

Don't mess with Jews then, because they are gods' chosen people!!!

Making a visit to a psychiatrist would also be helpful...

Borna
09-25-2014, 12:04 AM
Too many unique animals (Not counting negro-sub animals) would disappear.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-25-2014, 12:16 AM
Don't mess with Jews then, because they are gods' chosen people!!!

Making a visit to a psychiatrist would also be helpful...

Though your profile's title says: Atheist??

I need no psychiatrist, if I disagree something with Morons that doesn't mean am mad or something hey.

KidMulat
09-25-2014, 12:17 AM
Europe and global powers would suffer, in the long term I could see wars be waged as mineral and other resources drop dramatically. Depending to the degree of destruction it could infact cause a series of continued climatic changes that arguably created mega storms of which would cause the end to human existence as we know it.

Anglojew
09-25-2014, 12:34 AM
Well, Obviously, Jerusalem will face destruction first before it comes to Africa and Ashkenazis would become headless chicken. is n't it bit fare??

This shows the real Muslim attitude to Jerusalem. The claim its holy to them is fictional. It's not mentioned in the Koran.

Anglojew
09-25-2014, 12:36 AM
Europe and global powers would suffer, in the long term I could see wars be waged as mineral and other resources drop dramatically. Depending to the degree of destruction it could infact cause a series of continued climatic changes that arguably created mega storms of which would cause the end to human existence as we know it.

But no difference in terms of culture, science etc?

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 12:49 AM
Though your profile's title says: Atheist???

I am an Atheist, but since you believe in Islam, you should not mess with god's chosen people.

As an Atheist, I have no inhibition to mess with the Jews!


I need no psychiatrist, if I disagree something with Morons that doesn't mean am mad or something hey.

Did those angels ever tell you that you are stupid?

KidMulat
09-25-2014, 01:17 AM
But no difference in terms of culture, science etc?

It would be an issue actually; Sudan supplies many doctors to the Middle East and Europe, Nigeria and other nations supply a large number of people in the various fields related to Oil, agricultural specialists and those in mineral extraction as well would be much harder to find.

There is a lot of untapped and barely tapped resources on a social level that I can't definitively say would be destructive but I am one to believe that the world would be worse without Africa.

But people will dislike this because I am not saying "HURDUR NIGGERS ARE SUBHUMAN MONKEYS" so like my comment will mostly fall on deaf ears.

Ctwentysevenj
09-25-2014, 02:54 AM
If there was no more Africans, first world civilization would not suffer, as sub Saharan Africans have not contributed much if any of scientific discoveries, engineering etc to the modern world. The whole continent if lost would be a disaster as the animal and environmental diversity and the minerals.

Felix Volkbein
09-25-2014, 02:55 AM
It would be an issue actually; Sudan supplies many doctors to the Middle East and Europe, Nigeria and other nations supply a large number of people in the various fields related to Oil, agricultural specialists and those in mineral extraction as well would be much harder to find.

There is a lot of untapped and barely tapped resources on a social level that I can't definitively say would be destructive but I am one to believe that the world would be worse without Africa.


Yeah, you would say that, wouldn't you? Genuine LOL@ the idea Europe needs doctors from the Sudan, of all places.

Anyway, assuming OP meant that the indigenous "human" population of Africa would go extinct, but the innocent fauna would remain unharmed, this is the only possible reaction to the news of Africa's destruction:

http://charlethedog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Snoopy-Happy.jpeg

KidMulat
09-25-2014, 03:11 AM
Yeah, you would say that, wouldn't you? Genuine LOL@ the idea Europe needs doctors from the Sudan, of all places.

Anyway, assuming OP meant that the indigenous "human" population of Africa would go extinct, but the innocent fauna would remain unharmed, this is the only possible reaction to the news of Africa's destruction:

http://charlethedog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Snoopy-Happy.jpeg

You obviously have no clue what I am talking about, according to Sudanese media they are trying to figure out a way to keep their physicians after 1,500 became registered doctors in the UK alone

You also don't seem to understand or know about the quality of the medical schools in a Sudan and the historic migration of medical professionals to Arab and Europeans nations.

But go on continue your misinformed view :embarrassed

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 04:05 AM
You obviously have no clue what I am talking about, according to Sudanese media they are trying to figure out a way to keep their physicians after 1,500 became registered doctors in the UK alone

You also don't seem to understand or know about the quality of the medical schools in a Sudan and the historic migration of medical professionals to Arab and Europeans nations.

But go on continue your misinformed view :embarrassed

They can train their own doctors in the U.K. if they miss the Sudanese. The Indians export way more doctors than you do...

KidMulat
09-25-2014, 04:13 AM
They can train their own doctors in the U.K. if they miss the Sudanese. The Indians export way more doctors than you do...

They do, many of the first sudanese migrants were trained in Sudan, the student protests over there were mostly med students.

What do you mean "you"?

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 05:00 AM
They do, many of the first sudanese migrants were trained in Sudan, the student protests over there were mostly med students.

What do you mean "you"?

You can interpret the "you" any way you like: Africa, North America...

In any case, Whatever people Africa trains, the world can find in other poor countries as well...

Guapo
09-25-2014, 05:07 AM
nigger say what

Prince Of Macrobia
09-25-2014, 09:45 AM
I am an Atheist, but since you believe in Islam, you should not mess with god's chosen people.

As an Atheist, I have no inhibition to mess with the Jews!

Did those angels ever tell you that you are stupid?

Jewish maybe they better than you cuz you are typical faggot. (*_*)

Prince Of Macrobia
09-25-2014, 09:57 AM
Hey, North Africa is white! You blacks are only south of the Sahara! You shouldn't cross north of the Sahara!!!

You are not white but cunt, and seems lower then any other class. shutururu,...

EyeOfTheTiger
09-25-2014, 10:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTQbiNvZqaY

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 10:24 AM
No, I don't want to have neggro particules flying everywhere around me (portusaus-like)

Minesweeper
09-25-2014, 10:32 AM
We would experience a shortage of certain products whose production depends on the resources exploited in Africa. Trade and communication would be interrupted because there would be no airports and sea ports on the continent. But those problems would be solved entirely in a decade or so. World is not dependent on Africa, it's the other way around.

Anglojew
09-25-2014, 10:34 AM
Fried chicken glut...

Ok that was uncalled for, I apologize.

Wadaad
09-25-2014, 10:44 AM
"Your" civilization wouldnt suffer...thankfully, Africa has been of marginal importance to Pax Judaica.

These Greeks and Bulgarians here talking like they got to deal with an African burden or something is laughable...you guys were slaves back in the day, and are slaves now. I would rather be free in a mudhut than a Bulgarian or Greek.

How about this one: If Modern day Greece or Bulgaria was destroyed...how would our civilization suffer? (Keep in mind, I said MODERN Greece)

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 10:55 AM
These Greeks and Bulgarians here talking like they got to deal with an African burden or something is laughable

Africa is a worldwide burden, not only restricted to Bulgaria and Greece.

Wadaad
09-25-2014, 11:00 AM
Africa is a worldwide burden, not only restricted to Bulgaria and Greece.

I heard you're half iranian.

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 11:03 AM
I heard you're half iranian.

and ?

Prince Of Macrobia
09-25-2014, 11:05 AM
I was wondering how these Pigs above look a like, Am gonna slap their faces till their appearances turns scary red. dame

Wadaad
09-25-2014, 11:11 AM
and ?

Iran would welcome me with open arms...but your Iranian parent is an outcaste.

You are a descendant of bitter outcast. Was your iranian parent a shahi or a communist or a faggot?

Bloodnigger
09-25-2014, 11:15 AM
(Keep in mind, I said MODERN Greece)

Shortage of doctors in some european countries as well as Turkey in 2 years, loss of a central east mediterannean power and the consequences that go with it...if we wanna go with pre austerity greece we'd have far more, like a shortage of mechanical and civil engineering professors and practitioners (those have long deserted greece), loss of one of the world's biggest merchant fleets and several other less important things which don't directly benefit europe, such as the ELBO manufactories or the export of certain agricultural products.

If Somalia was destroyed, the only thing we'd get is joy since we don't have to deal with primitive Quran bush dwellers that pop out another potential machete rapist every 5 seconds. We'd also not have to deal with subhumanoid niggers like Prince though I'd miss some of your remarks, Wadaad.

Dombra
09-25-2014, 11:16 AM
How about this one: If Modern day Greece or Bulgaria was destroyed...how would our civilization suffer? (Keep in mind, I said MODERN Greece)

Scandinavian tourists would lose two destinations. Nothing else

Prince Of Macrobia
09-25-2014, 11:17 AM
Iran would welcome me with open arms...but your Iranian parent is an outcaste.

You are a descendant of bitter outcast. Was your iranian parent a shahi or a communist or a faggot?

You killed this guy "Phularion", hahahaha,. and I like the way you strike back with wisdom words!! amazing.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 11:18 AM
Anglojew's grandparents doing time for their crimes:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZA_G4Klr9ZA/T6lbR44A1iI/AAAAAAAAIiM/Cq1nClZrpmE/s1600/Jews+Mauthausen+Concentration+Camp+1940's.jpg

Look at the guilt in the eyes of these convicts

http://www.jewish-tours-berlin.com/assets/images/sachsenhausen(1).jpg

These jews (probably some related to Anglojew) were destroyed before I was born...and I didnt suffer

http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/murder/murder.jpg

This jewish man felt bad at the time of the photo...little did he know he would be destroyed by a catacylism soon enough. Did we suffer because he perished? (I guess, if you're a Palestinian the answer's a murky YES)

http://grossmanproject.net/images/Holocaust1.jpg

A lot of these jews and other inmates died from starvation, because of the allied bombings of rail ways and roads which made nearly impossible to transport food to the camps near the war's end, not because there were intentional genocide or something. There were no gas chambers, ovens or any of these myths, and the Nuremberg trails is what it is- a show trail. They extracted information from captured nazis by torture, which all of these so called "confessions" are nothing but lies. Why does hollywood make countless movies about the holocaust, and yet, we never even hear about the communist crimes against humanity which killed more than 100 million lives? are jewish life worth more than a goyim's life? According to the great Rabbi, Ovedia Yussef, yes. The vulgarity is that there are countless multi-million dollar museums dedicated to the holocaust, and yet, there arent any to the innocent Ukranians killed by the jewish communist, Lazar Kegonovich and his jewish deputies(along with Gengrich Yagoda or Aron Soltz).

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 11:20 AM
Iran would welcome me with open arms...but your Iranian parent is an outcaste.

You are a descendant of bitter outcast. Was your iranian parent a shahi or a communist or a faggot?

Actually it's my dad who's iranian, and I might be closely related to one of the shah's relatives, that's why I dislike anti-semitism (I find it gross and disgusting)

Sakis
09-25-2014, 11:20 AM
"Your" civilization wouldnt suffer...thankfully, Africa has been of marginal importance to Pax Judaica.

These Greeks and Bulgarians here talking like they got to deal with an African burden or something is laughable...you guys were slaves back in the day, and are slaves now. I would rather be free in a mudhut than a Bulgarian or Greek.

How about this one: If Modern day Greece or Bulgaria was destroyed...how would our civilization suffer? (Keep in mind, I said MODERN Greece)

Aren't you bored mentioning Greece all the time?We know that your butt hurts,just don't show it.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 11:24 AM
Actually it's my dad who's iranian, and I might be closely related to one of the shah's relatives, that's why I dislike anti-semitism (I find it gross and disgusting)

The Shah was a puppet installed by the US to stop communism in spreading all over the world(the CIA helped the shah in killing the real leader of Iran in the 50's or 60's), so that man isnt honest or a good man for that matter. He is like any other puppet in the Middle East(Mubarack, The saudi family, Hashemites of Jordan, Qatar and etc). I dont agree on the extreme Islamism in Iran, but at least iran is free from western(ZOG) control.

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 11:25 AM
You killed this guy "Phularion", hahahaha,. and I like the way you strike back!! amazing.

guessing after all the blood you lost in this thread, I won't even bother commenting this post.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 11:26 AM
Aren't you bored mentioning Greece all the time?We know that your butt hurts,just don't show it.

Greeks are cool people in my opinion.

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 11:30 AM
The Shah was a puppet installed by the US to stop communism in spreading all over the world(the CIA helped the shah in killing the real leader of Iran in the 50's or 60's), so that man isnt honest or a good man for that matter. He is like any other puppet in the Middle East(Mubarack, The saudi family, Hashemites of Jordan, Qatar and etc). I dont agree on the extreme Islamism in Iran, but at least iran is free from western(ZOG) control.

yes the shah isn't anymore, and it has been replaced by worst than bloodthirsty islamists animals.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 11:39 AM
yes the shah isn't anymore, and it has been replaced by worst than bloodthirsty islamists animals.

Do you honestly believe that Ahmedinjead wanted to "wipe" israel off the map like what the mass media keeps repeating? I dont agree on Islamisim in Iran, but at the same time, at least they're arent bowing down to ZOG. If your half iranian, and if you know how to speak persian then you should know that Ahmedinejad NEVER made that statement at all. He simply said that the regime must be wiped out from the pages of history, like the soviet union in russia. Regime change, not extermination. There are plenty of Jews living in Iran, and they are living happily in Iran.

Anglojew
09-25-2014, 11:45 AM
"Your" civilization wouldnt suffer...thankfully, Africa has been of marginal importance to Pax Judaica.

These Greeks and Bulgarians here talking like they got to deal with an African burden or something is laughable...you guys were slaves back in the day, and are slaves now. I would rather be free in a mudhut than a Bulgarian or Greek.

How about this one: If Modern day Greece or Bulgaria was destroyed...how would our civilization suffer? (Keep in mind, I said MODERN Greece)

You're comparing some of the smallest countries in Europe with the entire continent of Africa and the sad thing is it's a fairly good analogy.

Bloodnigger
09-25-2014, 11:46 AM
Shortage of doctors in some european countries as well as Turkey in 2 years, loss of a central east mediterannean power and the consequences that go with it...if we wanna go with pre austerity greece we'd have far more, like a shortage of mechanical and civil engineering professors and practitioners (those have long deserted greece), loss of one of the world's biggest merchant fleets and several other less important things which don't directly benefit europe, such as the ELBO manufactories or the export of certain agricultural products.

If Somalia was destroyed, the only thing we'd get is joy since we don't have to deal with primitive Quran bush dwellers that pop out another potential machete rapist every 5 seconds. We'd also not have to deal with subhumanoid niggers like Prince though I'd miss some of your remarks, Wadaad.

Pls answer Wadaad

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 11:46 AM
Do you honestly believe that Ahmedinjead wanted to "wipe" israel off the map like what the mass media keeps repeating?

He actually said that in front of the ONU and got applauded by any arabian country, and then got sanctions from the West.

Anglojew
09-25-2014, 11:49 AM
Anglojew's grandparents doing time for their crimes:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ZA_G4Klr9ZA/T6lbR44A1iI/AAAAAAAAIiM/Cq1nClZrpmE/s1600/Jews+Mauthausen+Concentration+Camp+1940's.jpg

Look at the guilt in the eyes of these convicts

http://www.jewish-tours-berlin.com/assets/images/sachsenhausen(1).jpg

These jews (probably some related to Anglojew) were destroyed before I was born...and I didnt suffer

http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/murder/murder.jpg

This jewish man felt bad at the time of the photo...little did he know he would be destroyed by a catacylism soon enough. Did we suffer because he perished? (I guess, if you're a Palestinian the answer's a murky YES)

http://grossmanproject.net/images/Holocaust1.jpg

So in other words you admit your ethnicity's contribution to the world is 0.

Wadaad
09-25-2014, 11:49 AM
Actually it's my dad who's iranian, and I might be closely related to one of the shah's relatives, that's why I dislike anti-semitism (I find it gross and disgusting)

Well your Shah was incompetent. He didnt know how to play politics like the Al Saud, or the Egyptian Army...you got to maintain a fine balance of sucking Zionist dick while appeasing your people. Obama knows the trick, Al Saud know the trick, Jordanians know the trick...but the Shah didnt. He was more interested in sucking zionist dick than appeasing his people. He was a prime example of the self hating westernized Middle Eastern man, whose history was taught to him by the White man (btw, it was this tutoring that made the prior Shah change the name from Persia to Iran in the first place)...in the end, the Shah was more interested in hosting parties and galas, where he re-enacted scenes from Perspolis in the vision of hollywood, even with charioteers and costume designers, just like Jewlywood.

On his deathbed he must have thought to himself..."I wore their suits...I shaved my face like they do...why did my White patrons betray me? Why am I a refugee as I die from cancer? Oh why did I kiss up to these Whites at the expense of my brown people? Why do I suffer from OWD? Why did the White man have to teach me about the Aryan shit and corrupt my heart"

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 11:51 AM
He actually said that in front of the ONU and got applauded by any arabian country, and then got sanctions from the West.

Again, he never said that. He simply said that the regime must change, not extermination. They lied about iraq having WMD's, and declared that Saddam was hitler. David Duke warned back in 2002 that Iraq never had any WMDs, nor it was a threat to iraq. It was after the war in 2003(killing 1 million iraqis and etc) did the US government admitted that Iraq never had any WMDs. It was a war for Israel VIA the jewish neo-cons that made the war possible. Now, they are asking to wage war on Iran and Syria. Its all written in the document, operation clean break, which is signed by the neo-cons and benjamin netanyahu.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 11:53 AM
Well your Shah was incompetent. He didnt know how to play politics like the Al Saud, or the Egyptian Army...you got to maintain a fine balance of sucking Zionist dick while appeasing your people. Obama knows the trick, Al Saud know the trick, Jordanians know the trick...but the Shah didnt. He was more interested in sucking zionist dick than appeasing his people. He was a prime example of the self hating westernized Middle Eastern man, whose history was taught to him by the White man (btw, it was this tutoring that made the prior Shah change the name from Persia to Iran in the first place)...in the end, the Shah was more interested in hosting parties and galas, where he re-enacted scenes from Perspolis in the vision of hollywood, even with charioteers and costume designers, just like Jewlywood.

On his deathbed he must have thought to himself..."I wore their suits...I shaved my face like they do...why did my White patrons betray me? Why am I a refugee as I die from cancer? Oh why did I kiss up to these Whites at the expense of my brown people? Why do I suffer from OWD? Why did the White man have to teach me about the Aryan shit and corrupt my heart"

Shah was a puppet, nothing more, like most rulers in the arab world.

Wadaad
09-25-2014, 11:56 AM
Shortage of doctors in some european countries as well as Turkey in 2 years, loss of a central east mediterannean power and the consequences that go with it...if we wanna go with pre austerity greece we'd have far more, like a shortage of mechanical and civil engineering professors and practitioners (those have long deserted greece), loss of one of the world's biggest merchant fleets and several other less important things which don't directly benefit europe, such as the ELBO manufactories or the export of certain agricultural products.

If Somalia was destroyed, the only thing we'd get is joy since we don't have to deal with primitive Quran bush dwellers that pop out another potential machete rapist every 5 seconds. We'd also not have to deal with subhumanoid niggers like Prince though I'd miss some of your remarks, Wadaad.


Wow you really are shooting yourself in the foot...brain drain? Brain drain is the 1st SIGN your country is 3rd world. That your doctors go practice in Turkey says alot.



The number of African doctors working in the US soared by almost two-fifths over a decade, according to a study showing the increasing extent of the “brain drain” from developing nations.
More than 10,000 medical graduates born or trained in sub-Saharan Africa were registered to practise in the US in 2011, raising concerns that some of the poorest countries are subsidising medicine in the world’s biggest economy.

The figure – up 38 per cent from 2002 – was equivalent to more than the entire number of doctors currently working in Ethiopia, Ghana, Liberia, Tanzania, Uganda, Zambia and Zimbabwe combined.



http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/9647519c-207a-11e3-b8c6-00144feab7de.html#axzz3EKN1SOZl


Good to know you have the same problem as Africa. Maybe had you not mongrelized over the millenia, you would have better retention rate of your professionals.

Also...in the modern world, merchant shipping is a matter of licensing your flag...ie 'flag of convenience'. Liberia (yes, General Butt Naked's Liberia) has a bigger merchant marine than Greece.

Wadaad
09-25-2014, 12:00 PM
Shah was a puppet, nothing more, like most rulers in the arab world.

He was...but he was also a fool, sort of like Morsi. He didnt know how to balance or manage, satisfying his patrons and also controlling dissent. So in that sense, he was inferior to the current crop of Arab rulers.

Anglojew
09-25-2014, 12:01 PM
Again, he never said that. He simply said that the regime must change, not extermination. They lied about iraq having WMD's, and declared that Saddam was hitler. David Duke warned back in 2002 that Iraq never had any WMDs, nor it was a threat to iraq. It was after the war in 2003(killing 1 million iraqis and etc) did the US government admitted that Iraq never had any WMDs. It was a war for Israel VIA the jewish neo-cons that made the war possible. Now, they are asking to wage war on Iran and Syria. Its all written in the document, operation clean break, which is signed by the neo-cons and benjamin netanyahu.

Iraq USED WMDs against the Kurds and Iran.

It was not a war for Israel or Jews.

For a start the overwhelming majority of US Jews vote Democrat and didn't support George Bush.

In fact US Jews of all religious groups in America (according to polls) "Jewish Americans are the most strongly opposed to the Iraq war"

http://www.gallup.com/poll/26677/among-religious-groups-jewish-americans-most-strongly-oppose-war.aspx

So not only are you lying, the exact opposite is true.

Alessio
09-25-2014, 12:01 PM
Why are you using an oxymoron at the end of your sentence ? The message is clear enough


Actually it's my dad who's iranian, and I might be closely related to one of the shah's relatives, that's why I dislike anti-semitism (I find it gross and disgusting)

Bloodnigger
09-25-2014, 12:07 PM
Wow you really are shooting yourself in the foot...brain drain? Brain drain is the 1st SIGN your country is 3rd world. That your doctors go practice in Turkey says alot.



http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/9647519c-207a-11e3-b8c6-00144feab7de.html#axzz3EKN1SOZl


Good to know you have the same problem as Africa. Maybe had you not mongrelized over the millenia, you would have better retention rate of your professionals.

Also...in the modern world, merchant shipping is a matter of licensing your flag...ie 'flag of convenience'. Liberia (yes, General Butt Naked's Liberia) has a bigger merchant marine than Greece.

Notice I said pre-austerity greece. No wonder they are leaving a country that persecutes those who fight to bring it back up and open the doors for your kin. The only mongrelisation that's gonna happen is when Somali Niggers mix with the Afghans and become the majority in greece, if this keeps going on.

Nice job about the doctors though. A continent of 1 billion barely manages to exceed the doctors of a 10-million strong nation which has one of the oldest populations in europe. Nicely done.

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2014/05/06/greek-merchant-fleet-tops-world-tonnage-ranking/

So half the ships that went off the Piraeus dockyard lines after 70% of the greek merchant navy got scraped or destroyed during WW2 compete with a country that basically flies a US flag.

Nice job Wadaad, Keep niggering on.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 12:08 PM
Iraq USED WMDs against the Kurds and Iran.

It was not a war for Israel or Jews.

For a start the overwhelming majority of US Jews vote Democrat and didn't support George Bush.

In fact US Jews of all religious groups in America (according to polls) "Jewish Americans are the most strongly opposed to the Iraq war"

http://www.gallup.com/poll/26677/among-religious-groups-jewish-americans-most-strongly-oppose-war.aspx

So not only are you lying, the exact opposite is true.

It was a war for the jews and israel, stop trying to downplay the role in waging war on Iraq. The Israeli Lobby, AIPAC, was a key figure in electing politicians who are greatly supportive to Israel. Anyone who dosent play ball with the jews gets destroyed by the media, ron paul is an example. And israel also used white phosphorous bombs on the gazans, a weapon that is banned in 1980's, and yet, there were no condemnation for that. The war WAS on israel's behalf, and i already shoed you the documentary showing the jewish neocons bragging about it. Jews never oppose the war(some do, but most didnt), and yes, there have been IDF soldiers in Abu Ghuraib, having the thrill in torturing Iraqis as well.
http://davidduke.com/abu-ghraib-wrapped-in-an-israeli-flag/
And now you want the americans to go to war against iran next because they are "supposedly" building nuclear weapons, even though they singed the IEAA, and allowed foreing inspections to their nuclear plants, while israel on the other hand, are one of the few nations on the planet that never allowed any inspection to their nuclear weapons, and never did signed the IEAA with iran. Have you heard the Sampson option?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5qGxd9xz-k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRlatDWqh0o

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 12:09 PM
Well your Shah was incompetent. He didnt know how to play politics like the Al Saud, or the Egyptian Army...you got to maintain a fine balance of sucking Zionist dick while appeasing your people. Obama knows the trick, Al Saud know the trick, Jordanians know the trick...but the Shah didnt. He was more interested in sucking zionist dick than appeasing his people. He was a prime example of the self hating westernized Middle Eastern man, whose history was taught to him by the White man (btw, it was this tutoring that made the prior Shah change the name from Persia to Iran in the first place)...in the end, the Shah was more interested in hosting parties and galas, where he re-enacted scenes from Perspolis in the vision of hollywood, even with charioteers and costume designers, just like Jewlywood.

On his deathbed he must have thought to himself..."I wore their suits...I shaved my face like they do...why did my White patrons betray me? Why am I a refugee as I die from cancer? Oh why did I kiss up to these Whites at the expense of my brown people? Why do I suffer from OWD? Why did the White man have to teach me about the Aryan shit and corrupt my heart"

what are you even talking about man ? AS the Shahs was cusking "Zionist" dick as you say the country was well ruled and had good and significant low reputation in the West (normal you'd say because it was appointed by Brits and Americans) and it wasn't betrayed by the white man when it fell down but by islam niggers, deep dumb people who through inbreeding were far more numerous then the lesser dumb people (who make 33% of the Irans population today).

and please spare me Al Saud or the Egyptian army ... Al Saud being literally the one who has a regime of overweighting so much he sucks "Zionist" dicks.

Fact is that even those islam rebels are being feed by "Zionist" ZOG western controlled arabian discks right now.

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 12:13 PM
Again, he never said that. He simply said that the regime must change, not extermination. They lied about iraq having WMD's, and declared that Saddam was hitler. David Duke warned back in 2002 that Iraq never had any WMDs, nor it was a threat to iraq. It was after the war in 2003(killing 1 million iraqis and etc) did the US government admitted that Iraq never had any WMDs. It was a war for Israel VIA the jewish neo-cons that made the war possible. Now, they are asking to wage war on Iran and Syria. Its all written in the document, operation clean break, which is signed by the neo-cons and benjamin netanyahu.

I agree about Iraq but everyone knew what he meant about "regime changements"

Willem
09-25-2014, 12:14 PM
Without Africa there would be no humans.

Silly thread.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 12:17 PM
I agree about Iraq but everyone knew what he meant about "regime changements"

Was russian destroyed when the country's changed its regime from communism to capitalism? Ahemdinejad never once spoke in destroying any nation, and he simply said that israel needs to be changed, nothing more. They kept whining that iran was bulding nuclear bombs from the early 90's, and yet, why didnt iran nuked israel till now? Iran wants to have nuclear power plants in giving the country more energy for the increasing population of Iran.

Wadaad
09-25-2014, 12:22 PM
Scandinavian tourists would lose two destinations. Nothing else

Mediterrenean climates are a dime a dozen bro...They can be easily replaced, all they have is some sandy beaches and islands. we got those too, the Scandos can come here instead. We even got Sycamore and Olive trees in Arabsiyo and Gabiley

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/44963469.jpg

http://s28.postimg.org/ylxqo7rkd/468440753_fdd3f1150b_o.jpg

and nice beaches too:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4130/bataatale.jpg

Without the tourism, they are nothing.

Willem
09-25-2014, 12:27 PM
Mediterrenean climates are a dime a dozen bro...They can be easily replaced, all they have is some sandy beaches and islands. we got those too, the Scandos can come here instead. We even got Sycamore and Olive trees in Arabsiyo and Gabiley
Without the tourism, they are nothing.

Med climates are not found in Sub-Saharan Africa, except for the tip of South Africa.

http://gimcw.org/climate/images/worldmap.jpg

aimar
09-25-2014, 12:29 PM
It wouldn't obviously.
But I don't wich them harm, I wish africans all the luck in the world, so all blacks can return to live in their place of origin.

Wadaad
09-25-2014, 12:37 PM
Med climates are not found in Sub-Saharan Africa, except for the tip of South Africa.

http://gimcw.org/climate/images/worldmap.jpg

You get a very similar mediterrenean climate in the 'montane' zone of Ethiopia, Eritrea and North West Somalia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Ethiopian_Highlands_01.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4126/5194647422_84006ff26a.jpg

For comparison, this is Spain:

http://global.numud.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/TemperateMediterraneanClimateSpain.jpg

vs Somaliland:

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/65314585.jpg


Greece:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IPNSWKOQrpc/UbLyBP1aRoI/AAAAAAAFgYU/8xhDwH85SG4/s640/2.jpg

Somaliland:

http://pinake.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/zeila_coast.jpg
Somalia:

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/7840536.jpg

vs Greece:

http://sohbetna.com/eng_articles_up/topbeachingreeceegremni-greece.jpg

LightHouse89
09-25-2014, 01:08 PM
Without Africa there would be no humans.

Silly thread.

LOL :rolleyes:

LightHouse89
09-25-2014, 01:11 PM
The Shah was a puppet installed by the US to stop communism in spreading all over the world(the CIA helped the shah in killing the real leader of Iran in the 50's or 60's), so that man isnt honest or a good man for that matter. He is like any other puppet in the Middle East(Mubarack, The saudi family, Hashemites of Jordan, Qatar and etc). I dont agree on the extreme Islamism in Iran, but at least iran is free from western(ZOG) control.

who is better the current regime in Iran or the Shah?

Empecinado
09-25-2014, 01:11 PM
For comparison, this is Spain:

http://global.numud.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/TemperateMediterraneanClimateSpain.jpg



But most of Spain originally had not such landscape, this is the result of deforestation. 200-500 years ago this landscape was a oak forest for sure:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hoI-QGonyS8/THw3ZTsI05I/AAAAAAAADZo/kHkrg1XbXgY/s1600/010+Encinar-quejigar+de+Ifrane+1-5-2003.JPG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rPUpbXZDd70/USkIH4afcOI/AAAAAAAAGgg/nXhAdhBf3xE/s1600/alcornoques-jimena2.jpg

Only some enclaves have original semi-deserts comparable to North Africa.

Wadaad
09-25-2014, 01:18 PM
But most of Spain originally had not such landscape, this is the result of deforestation. 200-500 years ago this landscape was a oak forest for sure:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hoI-QGonyS8/THw3ZTsI05I/AAAAAAAADZo/kHkrg1XbXgY/s1600/010+Encinar-quejigar+de+Ifrane+1-5-2003.JPG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rPUpbXZDd70/USkIH4afcOI/AAAAAAAAGgg/nXhAdhBf3xE/s1600/alcornoques-jimena2.jpg



Only some enclaves have original semi-deserts comparable to North Africa.

We also have those 'woodlands'...Golis forest in Cerigaabo:

http://images.world66.com/go/li/s_/golis_range_mounta_galleryfull

Same coloring...same foliage, tree density, etc...and remember...the Sahara used to be grasslands.

armenianbodyhair
09-25-2014, 01:19 PM
All dat oil doe

Prince Of Macrobia
09-25-2014, 01:29 PM
Prediction is for something set in the future.

Do you mean that I'll go to Athens and fuck some underage Somali whore???

Goat fucker.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 01:31 PM
who is better the current regime in Iran or the Shah?

I would say current regime, because they arent bowing down to ZOG like many countries do, but at the same time, i despise the islamism in that country. I wished iran was more like syria, secular but not an ass licker to ZOG.

Prince Of Macrobia
09-25-2014, 01:33 PM
But most of Spain originally had not such landscape, this is the result of deforestation. 200-500 years ago this landscape was a oak forest for sure:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hoI-QGonyS8/THw3ZTsI05I/AAAAAAAADZo/kHkrg1XbXgY/s1600/010+Encinar-quejigar+de+Ifrane+1-5-2003.JPG

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rPUpbXZDd70/USkIH4afcOI/AAAAAAAAGgg/nXhAdhBf3xE/s1600/alcornoques-jimena2.jpg

Only some enclaves have original semi-deserts comparable to North Africa.

is n't it Spain SLAVED by Caliphate, these great Islam??

NB: People should actually know their history and find their roots plus knowing where they heading. WTH?/

LightHouse89
09-25-2014, 01:40 PM
I would say current regime, because they arent bowing down to ZOG like many countries do, but at the same time, i despise the islamism in that country. I wished iran was more like syria, secular but not an ass licker to ZOG.

My government now said they support FSA....which you and I both know is on Isra-Hell's payroll.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 01:43 PM
My government now said they support FSA....which you and I both know is on Isra-Hell's payroll.

Its all a game for the zionist jews really. Its all in their plans for greater israel. The more destroyed and chaotic the middle east is, the easier for israel to conquer it. Wish that white americans could take back their government from the jewish oligarchs.

LightHouse89
09-25-2014, 01:48 PM
Its all a game for the zionist jews really. Its all in their plans for greater israel. The more destroyed and chaotic the middle east is, the easier for israel to conquer it. Wish that white americans could take back their government from the jewish oligarchs.

a shame many of them are retarded and left wing...oh but this country is a land of immigrants....who promotes that brainwash? Well I can tell you because they live in new york and boston and make alot of the educational books here. :cool: Here they are starting to use words such as 'ethno-centric' if I refuse to accept what they have to say....'oh how ethno-centric of you'..LOL they are creative I give them that.

Empecinado
09-25-2014, 01:49 PM
We also have those 'woodlands'...Golis forest in Cerigaabo:

http://images.world66.com/go/li/s_/golis_range_mounta_galleryfull

Same coloring...same foliage, tree density, etc...and remember...the Sahara used to be grasslands.

But these forests are not the average Somali landscape, are found only in some enclaves. Instead the forests I posted were the usual Mediterranean landscape till some centuries ago.


is n't it Spain SLAVED by Caliphate, these great Islam??

NB: People should actually know their history and find their roots plus knowing where they heading. WTH?/

?????

Gustave H
09-25-2014, 01:57 PM
No offense to Africans, but we'd lose nothing.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 04:04 PM
a shame many of them are retarded and left wing...oh but this country is a land of immigrants....who promotes that brainwash? Well I can tell you because they live in new york and boston and make alot of the educational books here. :cool: Here they are starting to use words such as 'ethno-centric' if I refuse to accept what they have to say....'oh how ethno-centric of you'..LOL they are creative I give them that.

Maybe you should show them a couple of videos like these in New York, and ask them "why nobody in the ADL or the ACLU condemning Israel for these things, while white countries are being flooded by the third world? isn't that hypocrisy? Why countries like Korea and Japan are racially homogenous, and yet, most white countries are multicultural?". I would say none of them would answer to you honestly, or even, they wouldnt answer to you all together:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPxv4Aff3IA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irhw6bj5pa0
I would think they would probably say "but america is built by immigrants, and we should be accepting more immigrants, because the country is prosperous with more immigration". They are implying that white immigrants, the ones who founded and created america, are the same as the ones from the third world(most of them dont give a crap about america. They're just here for the benefits only).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYwvGHY1nAI

LightHouse89
09-25-2014, 04:57 PM
Maybe you should show them a couple of videos like these in New York, and ask them "why nobody in the ADL or the ACLU condemning Israel for these things, while white countries are being flooded by the third world? isn't that hypocrisy? Why countries like Korea and Japan are racially homogenous, and yet, most white countries are multicultural?". I would say none of them would answer to you honestly, or even, they wouldnt answer to you all together:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPxv4Aff3IA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irhw6bj5pa0
I would think they would probably say "but america is built by immigrants, and we should be accepting more immigrants, because the country is prosperous with more immigration". They are implying that white immigrants, the ones who founded and created america, are the same as the ones from the third world(most of them dont give a crap about america. They're just here for the benefits only).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYwvGHY1nAI

They would call me an out right nazi for accusing them of being racist or even an anti semite LOL. I remember I had a jewish girl in one of my classes at my old college...and she accused my country of being racist yet I brought up the things Israel has done and she called me a Nazi....I was like well just observe what Israel is doing...isnt it comparable to the Nazis? And she screamed at me and threw something at me. I laughed and decided I will let those who witnessed the event judge it.....alot of people told me afterwards how they thought it was funny and they could see where I was going with the argument. I was told to leave the calls but I didnt care.....it was a psychology course at the time hahaha.

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 06:48 PM
Jewish maybe they better than you cuz you are typical faggot. (*_*)

I've worked with Jews but I am not one of them. I couldn't stand their religion.

You are a typical idiot, if I was a faggot, I would have no problem declaring it in this forum, exactly the way Sikeliot, Longbowman and Arberori have done. Unfortunately - for you - I am not.

Now go hunt for faggots, kill them and eat them, in your little shithole. Who gives a shit, you are all fucked up there anyway...

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 06:50 PM
You are not white but cunt, and seems lower then any other class. shutururu,...

I don't give a shit whether you think I'm white or black. I won't even try to prove I am white. It is pointless: Your opinion doesn't count anyway...

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 06:53 PM
"Your" civilization wouldnt suffer...thankfully, Africa has been of marginal importance to Pax Judaica.

These Greeks and Bulgarians here talking like they got to deal with an African burden or something is laughable...you guys were slaves back in the day, and are slaves now. I would rather be free in a mudhut than a Bulgarian or Greek.

How about this one: If Modern day Greece or Bulgaria was destroyed...how would our civilization suffer? (Keep in mind, I said MODERN Greece)

Just stay away from us, and everything will be fine. As for being slaves for 500 years in a 3~4 thousand years of history... Well, nobody is perfect...

You can't destroy modern Greece. Greece shall survive even if water rises 85 meters or if the Earth stops spinning... It is simply indestructible (for the next 50 million years at least...)

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 06:55 PM
Iran would welcome me with open arms...but your Iranian parent is an outcaste.

You are a descendant of bitter outcast. Was your iranian parent a shahi or a communist or a faggot?

Why don't you just try to get there? I've heard they love the Sunnis...

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 07:02 PM
Do you honestly believe that Ahmedinjead wanted to "wipe" israel off the map like what the mass media keeps repeating? I dont agree on Islamisim in Iran, but at the same time, at least they're arent bowing down to ZOG. If your half iranian, and if you know how to speak persian then you should know that Ahmedinejad NEVER made that statement at all. He simply said that the regime must be wiped out from the pages of history, like the soviet union in russia. Regime change, not extermination. There are plenty of Jews living in Iran, and they are living happily in Iran.

Ahmadinejad said in an interview that he wanted to wipe off Zionism from the map. This doesn't make sense, because Zionism is not in the map, Israel is.

He was obviously lying, but that doesn't mean that Iran was plotting to destroy Israel. In the end of the line, Ahmadinejad didn't really rule Iran. Khamenei is the Supreme leader of Iran, and - unlike Ahmadinejad - he doesn't need to talk bullshit in order to get elected.

Iran itself has an impressive record of more than a century without aggression against any foreign state.

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 07:36 PM
Well your Shah was incompetent. He didnt know how to play politics like the Al Saud, or the Egyptian Army...you got to maintain a fine balance of sucking Zionist dick while appeasing your people.

Still, the Shah has been more competent than all of the Somali politicians who ever lived.


Obama knows the trick, Al Saud know the trick, Jordanians know the trick...but the Shah didnt. He was more interested in sucking zionist dick than appeasing his people. He was a prime example of the self hating westernized Middle Eastern man, whose history was taught to him by the White man (btw, it was this tutoring that made the prior Shah change the name from Persia to Iran in the first place)

Nope, the Ancient name of Persia is Persia, and this is how it is described in all classical texts. Iran was not know as a word to Western people, because it existed only in Zoroastrian or Ancient Persian texts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)


The name of Iran (Persian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_language): ایران‎) derives immediately from Middle Persian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Persian) Ērān, Pahlavi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahlavi_script) ʼyrʼn, first attested in this form in the inscription that accompanies the investiture relief of Ardashir I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardashir_I) at Naqsh-e Rustam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naqsh-e_Rustam).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-MacKenzie-1) In this inscription, the king's Middle Persian appellation isardašīr šāhān šāh ērān corresponding to the passage ardašīr šāhān šāh aryān in the Parthian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parthian_language) inscription accompanying the Middle Persian one. Both mean "Ardashir, king of kings of Aryans (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_peoples)".[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-MacKenzie-1) Though in English the name Persia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persia) was once normal, Iran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran) is today the preferred name.

Etymology[edit (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iran_(word)&action=edit&section=1)]The gentilic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonym) ēr- and ary- (in e.g. ērān/aryān) in the Middle Iranian languages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Iranian_languages) of Persian and Parthian derives from Old Iranian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_languages) *arya-[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-MacKenzie-1) (in e.g. Old Persian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Persian): ariya-, Avestan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avestan): airiia-, etc.), meaning "Aryan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan),"[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-MacKenzie-1) in the sense of "of the Iranians."[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-MacKenzie-1)[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-Schmitt_Aryans-2) This word (i.e. *arya-) is attested as an ethnic designator in Achaemenid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achaemenid) inscriptions and in Zoroastrianism's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism) Avesta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avesta) tradition,[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-Bailey_Arya-3)[n 1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-4) and in Middle Iranian era (ca. 400 BCE - 700 CE) it seems "very likely"[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-MacKenzie-1) that the word ērān in Ardashir's inscription still retained the same meaning as in the Old era, i.e. denoting the people rather than the empire while the empire was properly named as ērānšahr.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-MacKenzie-1)
Notwithstanding this inscriptional use of ērān to refer to the Iranian peoples (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_peoples), the use of ērān to refer to the empire (and the antonymic anērān to refer to the Roman territories) is also attested by the early Sassanid period. Both ērān and anērān appear in 3rd century calendrical text written by Mani (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_(prophet)). In an inscription of Ardashir's son and immediate successor, Shapur I (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shapur_I) "apparently includes in Ērān regions such as Armenia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenia) and the Caucasus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus) which were not inhabited predominantly by Iranians."[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-Gignoux_Aneran-5) In Kartir's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kartir) inscriptions (written thirty years after Shapur's), the high priest includes the same regions (together with Georgia, Albania, Syria and the Pontus) in his list of provinces of the antonymic Anērān.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-Gignoux_Aneran-5) Ērān also features in the names of the towns founded by Sassanid dynasts, for instance in Ērān-xwarrah-šābuhr "Glory of Ērān (of) Shapur". It also appears in the titles of government officers, such as in Ērān-āmārgar "Accountant-General (of) Ērān" or Ērān-dibirbed "Chief Scribe (of) Ērān".[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-MacKenzie-1)
Shapur's trilingual inscription at Ka'ba-i Zartosht (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka%27ba-i_Zartosht) also introduces the term ērānšahr (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Eranshahr.svg/75px-Eranshahr.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Eranshahr.svg)), "kingdom of the Iranians", that is however not attested in any other texts of this period other than in royal inscriptions (it is however preserved in post-Sassanid-era Zoroastrian texts[n 2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-8)).[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-MacKenzie-1) Because an equivalent of ērānšahr does not appear in Old Iranian (where it would have been *aryānām xšaθra- or in Old Persian *- xšaça-, "rule, reign, sovereignty"), the term is presumed[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-MacKenzie-1) to have been a Sassanid-era development. In the Greek portion of Shapur's trilingual inscription the word šahr "kingdom" appears as ethnous "nation". For speakers of Greek, the idea of an Iranian ethnous was not new: In the 1st century BCE, Strabo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strabo) had noted a relationship between the various Iranian peoples and their languages: "[From] beyond the Indus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus) [...] Ariana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Iran) is extended so as to include some part of Persia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fars_Province), Media (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medes), and the north of Bactria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bactria) and Sogdiana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sogdiana); for these nations speak nearly the same language." (Geography (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographica_(Strabo)), 15.2.1-15.2.8).[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)#cite_note-9)

If the Shah had been tutored by the "white man", he would probably chose "Ariana" as in Strabos' texts, not Iran! But then, we are discussing with a retard Somali here who can't make up the difference between his head and his arse...


...in the end, the Shah was more interested in hosting parties and galas, where he re-enacted scenes from Perspolis in the vision of hollywood, even with charioteers and costume designers, just like Jewlywood.

On his deathbed he must have thought to himself..."I wore their suits...I shaved my face like they do...why did my White patrons betray me? Why am I a refugee as I die from cancer? Oh why did I kiss up to these Whites at the expense of my brown people? Why do I suffer from OWD? Why did the White man have to teach me about the Aryan shit and corrupt my heart"

Persians a brown people?

You are watching too much Jewlywood Wadaad!

Tell me, who is the brown man? The Jewlywood Persian, or the real Persian???

http://swordofelysium.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/kingxerxes3.png

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 07:45 PM
Ahmadinejad said in an interview that he wanted to wipe off Zionism from the map. This doesn't make sense, because Zionism is not in the map, Israel is.

He was obviously lying, but that doesn't mean that Iran was plotting to destroy Israel. In the end of the line, Ahmadinejad didn't really rule Iran. Khamenei is the Supreme leader of Iran, and - unlike Ahmadinejad - he doesn't need to talk bullshit in order to get elected.

Iran itself has an impressive record of more than a century without aggression against any foreign state.

Ahmedinejad meant that Israel needs to change its regime much like russia with the soviet union hence the term, regim, in persian when he spoke against zionism at that time, never indicated that he wants to wipe israel off the map. Iran hasn't attacked any nation for over 200 years(while israel broke more international laws than china and north korea put together), and they aren't going to be intimidated by Israel with their threats against their country. Again, im against islamism in Iran, but at the same time, i do respect the country in not bowing down to ZOG like most countries in the western world.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 07:51 PM
Still, the Shah has been more competent than all of the Somali politicians who ever lived.Nope, the Ancient name of Persia is Persia, and this is how it is described in all classical texts. Iran was not know as a word to Western people, because it existed only in Zoroastrian or Ancient Persian texts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)



If the Shah had been tutored by the "white man", he would probably chose "Ariana" as in Strabos' texts, not Iran! But then, we are discussing with a retard Somali here who can't make up the difference between his head and his arse...

Persians a brown people?

You are watching too much Jewlywood Wadaad!

Tell me, who is the brown man? The Jewlywood Persian, or the real Persian???

http://swordofelysium.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/kingxerxes3.png

The word, Iran, literally means the land of the aryans, which being an Aryan has nothing to do in having blonde hair or blue eyes at that time. Hell, even classical greek writers spoke on how alexander the great conquered the aryans in what is now Kabul, Afghanistan, which proves that Greeks only referred the aryan peoples to the indo-iranian peoples, not europeans generally. The movie 300 is nothing but jew produced film which targets in making the iranians look gay and foolish(the same is applied to the Greeks), but also, its a political propaganda film in demonizing the iranians to wage war against their country for israel. Jewllywood always demonized their enemies and non-enemies alike(Arabs, Russians, Italians and etc). The relationship between the ancient greeks and persians wasnt all that bad either. Hell, even Xerxes felt great guilt when he burned Athens to the ground, and tried to rebuild the city(it never come to be because he died before he can do it). Alexander the great respected Persian culture and civilization, and he also admired cyrus the great. Jews and their media always propagate falsehoods to suit their needs.

King Claus
09-25-2014, 07:53 PM
Resources.

That's it.
Indonesians and other south Asians can provide us with cheap labour as well. I'd say it'd better to have the Indonesians instead, because they are usually more disciplined, civil and harder working.

Ars Moriendi
09-25-2014, 08:01 PM
Actually it's my dad who's iranian, and I might be closely related to one of the shah's relatives, that's why I dislike anti-semitism (I find it gross and disgusting)

You're one of Mohammed Reza Pahlavi's fans?... That actually explains a lot.

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 08:03 PM
Wow you really are shooting yourself in the foot...brain drain? Brain drain is the 1st SIGN your country is 3rd world. That your doctors go practice in Turkey says alot.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/9647519c-207a-11e3-b8c6-00144feab7de.html#axzz3EKN1SOZl

The only thing it syas is that the Turks are too stupid to train doctors, and they choose to train mullahs instead! This is why they have a serious lack of doctors. The same shit applies all over the Muslim world, where people die of MERS-coV and other diseases because some MORONS consume camel pee as a "Medicine advised by the prophet"!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7DeOdovU94

This is why even Saudi Arabia imports Greek doctors, and they are also capable of training their own doctors, but the Muslim disease has sucked up their brain...

Anyway, this is no bad for us because we have a chronic over-training of people. The Greek educational system is free, and we have a problem of over-educating people:

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023%2FA%3A1002981301802


International Review of Education (http://link.springer.com/journal/11159)1997, Volume 43, Issue 2-3 (http://link.springer.com/journal/11159/43/2/page/1), pp 203-223
OVEREDUCATION IN GREECE

HARRY ANTHONY Patrinos (http://link.springer.com/search?facet-author=%22HARRY+ANTHONY+Patrinos%22)



AbstractWhile much has been written lately on overeducation, little is known about the effect of socioeconomic background on the incidence of overeducation and its impact on earnings. In this paper, the question of socioeconomic background is taken up and estimates of the incidence and labor market impacts of overeducation are examined with data from Greece. It is estimated that 16 percent of the university educated labor force is overeducated, varying considerably by discipline. The proportion of those overeducated from the lower classes is high (54 percent), although this varies by specialization. Overall, there is a 10 percent "penalty" in earnings associated with being overeducated for a university graduate. The negative and statistically significant effect of overeducation affects those faculties that are more general and do not correspond to particular occupations. Overeducated workers are younger than those properly matched, and more likely to work in the private sector. This suggests that overeducation is a phenomenon that affects workers as they make their way through the labor market. It may also mean that overeducation is a new phenomenon, brought about by the oversupply of graduates. Frustrated graduates are forced to take jobs in inappropriate fields. And as public sector employment decreases in size and the numbers of university graduates increase, private sector employment will necessarily increase for graduates. The question then is whether the private sector can provide jobs that are appropriate to the qualifications of university graduates.




Good to know you have the same problem as Africa. Maybe had you not mongrelized over the millenia, you would have better retention rate of your professionals.

We have a crisis, but Greece remains much better than Africa. We actually need to get rid of the excess doctors and lawyers, not to mention mathematicians e.t.c. Greece lacks technicians, not university students. Germany suceeded because it has more technical education and lesser university degrees, and THIS IS WHAT GREECE NEEDS AS WELL:

http://www.economist.com/node/21552567


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THE European Central Bank controls Europe's currency from Frankfurt, Germany's financial centre. Beckhoff Automation, in a bucolic corner of Westphalia, controls the bank. Or more precisely, its devices control the bank's lighting and ventilation. Other Beckhoff gizmos raise the curtain and dim the lights at Milan's Teatro alla Scala. Yet more are embedded in luxury sailboats, in dancing fountains outside Las Vegas hotels and in half the wind turbines made in China.
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Omnipresent but obscure, family owned but by no means puny, Beckhoff is among thousands of “hidden champions” that account for much of Germany's prowess as a manufacturer and exporter. Its sales leapt 34% to €465m ($608m) last year. It is aiming for €2 billion by 2020. Beckhoff exports more than half its output. But its manufacturing is mainly in high-wage, rule-bound Germany.
Largely thanks to its Beckhoffs, Germany looks like a bright exception to the dispiriting rule among developed economies. True, its economy contracted more than those of most rich countries during the 2008-09 world recession (see chart 1). But the jobless rate rose by less than in all the others, peaking at 7.9%. And nobody talks about downgrading Germany's AAA credit rating; it can borrow money for practically nothing.
Envy and emulation
Not all the news is good. The economy shrank in the final quarter of 2011; and even if first quarter figures do not reveal Germany itself to be in recession, its economy will continue to suffer the drag of recession elsewhere in the euro area and a slowdown in developing countries. But just 1% growth is enough to create jobs, according to Bert Rürup, a former chairman of the government's council of economic “wise men”. In a book written with a journalist, Dirk Heilmann, “Fat Years: Why Germany has a Brilliant Future”, he giddily predicts that by 2030 Germany will become the world's richest large country in terms of income per head.
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Such success does not bring universal admiration. Germany is hated in parts of Europe for demanding growth-crushing austerity as the price for supporting the euro. Greek tabloids have depicted Angela Merkel, the chancellor, in Nazi uniform. A current account surplus larger than China's as a share of GDP is a badge of pride for many Germans (see chart 2). But economists such as Simon Tilford of the Centre for European Reform (CER) accuse them of “fetishising exports” while low wage growth depresses their demand for goods from other countries. When in 2010 Christine Lagarde, then France's finance minister and now head of the International Monetary Fund, questioned whether Germany's export-dependent model was “sustainable” she spoke for many.
Yet there is also a great deal of admiration. Spain's education minister is looking into Germany's “dual system” of vocational training, which combines classroom instruction with work experience. John Cridland, director of the Confederation of British Industry, wants Britain “to have its own version of the German Mittelstand”, ie, firms like Beckhoff. Nicolas Sarkozy began his campaign for re-election as France's president sounding as if he would gladly swallow the model whole. Germany prioritised “jobs, jobs, jobs,” he said. “If it worked for them, why wouldn't it work for us?”
But is the model copiable? After a few days in East Westphalia-Lippe (now marketing itself to the world as OWL) you wonder. Beckhoff and its peers have global ambitions but their business culture has deep provincial roots. They look back as much as forward. “We have existed since 1825 and have been doing the same thing since then,” says Dieter Brand, chairman of the Sparkasse, or savings bank, in Bielefeld, the region's biggest town. In some senses the same is true of his corporate customers. Germany may have reformed and rearticulated its model in recent years. But the underlying skeleton is ancient, and perhaps inimitable.
Two decades ago, the country seemed distinctly arthritic. The euphoria of unification in 1990 was followed by the sharpest recession since the second world war. Some 500,000 manufacturing jobs were lost. Business was menaced by an overvalued D-mark, nimble Asian competitors and unification's huge costs. The economy had become rigid and uncompetitive, moaned entrepreneurs. The then-president, Roman Herzog, captured the zeitgeist in 1997 when he spoke of “the loss of economic dynamism, the torpor of society, an unbelievable mental depression”. Reformers clamoured for elements of the German model, like vocational training and centralised wage bargaining, to be scrapped.
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Instead it was made more limber. Business outsourced some production to eastern Europe; fear of that process extracted concessions from German workers, who offered flexibility on wages and work hours in exchange for greater job security. In the subsequent decade manufacturing's share of GDP rose even as it was falling elsewhere (see chart 3).
In the early 2000s, with growth still in low gear and unemployment in double digits, the then-chancellor, Gerhard Schröder, a Social Democrat, started another round of gruelling physiotherapy. His labour-market reforms reduced unemployment benefits and liberalised temporary work. Since she became chancellor in 2005 Mrs Merkel of the Christian Democrats has raised the pension age from 65 to 67 and amended the constitution to require state and federal governments to cut their structural budget deficits to more or less zero (the template for what is now a Europe-wide agreement).
Benefits thought to be sacrosanct were cut. Income inequality rose. But so did employment. Core workers in industrial firms—the muscle behind Germany's manufacturing prowess—were not affected directly. But the rise in low-paid, insecure jobs has held down the cost of services, making it easier for factory workers to accept modest pay rises, points out Anke Hassel of the Hertie School of Governance in Berlin.
The original assembly of the German model also dates to a recessionary crisis following hard on the heels of a unification: a 23-year-long slump starting in 1873, two years after Bismarck finally succeeded in pulling Germany together into a single state. ThisGründekrise and its prolonged aftermath forged new ideas about how capital, labour and the state should relate to one another.
An 1884 law created the dual-board system of corporate governance in its current form, with a managing Vorstand answerable to a separate supervisory board. Among the supervisors were bankers, who provided “patient capital”, and scientists, whose expertise was valued as highly. The vocational training system, set up during the 1880s, provided new producers of chemicals and machinery with skilled and loyal workers. Bismarck established the welfare state in part to cater to their needs. The way the health insurance system worked required capital and labour to co-operate, paving the way for works councils and, almost a century later, for mandatory representation for the workers on the supervisory boards of large companies.
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The “co-ordinated market economy” has withstood dictatorship, wars, revolutions and globalisation. It prizes trust, relying on the principle that nobody will “make full use of his freedom” by grabbing everything he can, says Werner Abelshauser, an economic historian at the University of Bielefeld. Its elements are “so tightly meshed”, he has written, “that it would be difficult to replace any one of them with an alien component.”
The trust and co-ordination may be national properties, but their roots are typically quite local. Before Bismarck, Germany's provinces, principalities and palatinates often had rulers who were keen to establish local industries. In 1678 Brandenburg's Great Elector gave Bielefeld the privilege of certifying the quality of local linen, cementing its position as a centre for the textile trade. Centuries later Beckhoff's first customers made machines for the furniture industry that had developed out of the crate-making trade that had grown with the export of textiles.
Dozens of other regions can tell similar stories, and these concentrations have become part of the country's contemporary success. On a list of 100 clusters picked by the European Cluster Observatory for their size, level of specialisation and location in “innovative regions”, Germany occupies 30 places.
Germany experimented with American-style standardised production during and after the second world war, which was one reason why it imported unskilled guest workers from Turkey and elsewhere. The Siren across the Atlantic called again in the 1990s and 2000s, urging Germany to deregulate, embrace services and maximise “shareholder value”. When that call was silenced by the financial crisis, “Germany had its consensus model to go back to,” says Gustav Horn of the union-linked Macroeconomic Policy Institute.
Small towns in Germany
Hans Beckhoff, boss of the automation company that bears his name, does not come off as a throwback. His silver-grey hair is modishly long, his collar unbuttoned. But some of his habits seem distinctly old-fashioned. Take his approach to debt: he's against it. Investment in the company is funded by him and his three siblings, the only shareholders. It is the same with nearby Miele, a 113-year-old maker of kitchen equipment and white goods, with annual sales of €3 billion. This is not the most efficient way to run a company. With more leverage Mittelstand firms could boost their pre-tax profit by several points, notes Armin Schmiedeberg of Bain, a consultancy. He thinks they are wise not to.
The point is not to maximise short-term profit, says Markus Miele, a managing director at his firm, but to aim at “where we want to be when we hand over to the next generation.” Mr Beckhoff says he fends off monthly offers to buy his company. Lack of financial ambition goes along with the observance of unwritten sumptuary laws. “Families behind the Mittelstand live in an acceptable, modest and healthy way,” says Mr Beckhoff.
Maybe that is because they lean so heavily on the skilled workers the country is so good at producing. Around half of German high-school students go on to dual training in one of 344 trades, from tanner to dental technician. Many of the courses are set by unions and employers' federations. State and local governments provide the schools where apprentices get their theory. Chambers of commerce and industry run the exams. When foreigners ask why youth unemployment is so low (just 8.2% compared with Spain's 50.5%), older Germans tout the dual system.
Young Germans are not so convinced; it is the first choice of just a fifth of high-school students, says Swen Binner of the Bielefeld chamber of commerce. And the number of school leavers in OWL is dropping by 2% a year while demand for skills is rising. Business is adapting by blurring the previously sharp distinction between vocational and university training. Beckhoff now offers “academic apprenticeships”, which combine hands-on experience with study at a technical university.
The relationship between conscientious proprietors and diligent craftsmen is not without conflict, but it is set in a governance framework that contains disagreements without stifling them, and can deliver flexibility. In the metal and electrical engineering sector, the heart of manufacturing, labour contracts still tend to be settled on an industry-wide basis (outsourcing trouble, as some bosses see it).
Knowing what's kneaded
The entrepreneurs of OWL are confident that global trends will continue to go their way. 5 billion people can reasonably aspire to join the 1 billion who are already well off, says Mr Beckhoff. It will take “a lot of engineering” to pull that off without environmental ruin and strife over resources, and that will provide ever more opportunities for manufacturers.
As the aerospace industry turns to new materials like titanium and car makers shrink engines to boost efficiency, they provide machine-tool makers with new markets. And old markets can be refined as they grow. WP Kemper, a maker of baking equipment near Bielefeld, expects demand for dough to double over the next decade, as consumers in developing countries broaden their diets. The new generation of bakers will be unfamiliar with the mysteries of European bread, so Kemper is working on an “intelligent kneader” that knows when dough is ready.
Many Mittelstand firms are oligopolists, argues Mr Schmiedeberg, occupying niches so narrow that they attract few rivals. Increasingly, the niches are being defended with services, in this context not the term of derision it often is in manufacturing circles. Beckhoff builds its own sales and maintenance networks, relying little on dealers—unlike some of its non-German competitors.
The next stage is “hybrid value-added”, in which the product is an outcome that the customer wants rather than the good that produces it. Wolf Heiztechnik of Bavaria is developing a contract under which it sells temperature control rather than heating equipment. “Every Chinese firm can do the industrial part, not the whole hybrid,” says Karl Lichtblau of IW Consult, a consultancy. Counting industry-related services, he reckons, manufacturing's share of GDP is more like 30% than 20%.
In places like Bielefeld the future looks like an extension of the past. Not everything changes at once, and institutions are there to help out. When the machine-building department at Bielefeld's University of Applied Sciences looked in danger of closing, industry drummed up interest among students to keep it open. IT'S OWL, a new initiative by machine builders, car-part suppliers and electronics companies, enlists universities to add intelligence to regional products, like Kemper's smart kneader. “We are successful because we have companies behind us and companies ahead of us,” says Mr Beckhoff. His advice to politicians: don't break the chain. But is the success of which he is justly proud enough? And is it something other countries can learn from?
The platform for Germany's success looks precariously narrow. Vehicles, machines, electronic devices and chemicals account for more than half of Germany's exports, and exports provided nearly all Germany's growth from 2001 to 2007. Optimists think Germany can keep its share of world trade, which grows twice as fast as global output, and thus stay ahead. But this is a big bet on a thin slice of the economy. Employment in manufacturing proper is less than a fifth of the total. In unglamorous, non-export oriented services Germany is in a much sorrier state. Stunted services depress incomes and investment. The OECD predicts that, as the population ages, potential growth will drop, falling below 1% by 2020. “The underlying issue is raising productivity in services and increasing wages in line with that,” says Mr Tilford of the CER.
Germany could do a lot more to perk up domestic demand. Deregulation of professional services would boost productivity and investment. Barriers to women working, including incentive-killing tax and benefit regimes and a shortage of crèches, should be removed. And Mr Tilford finds it “astonishing” that a country with a current-account surplus as big as Germany's insists on balancing its budget.
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Demographic decline could initially be a blessing, shifting power to workers as the workforce shrinks, with the subsequent increase in labour costs boosting domestic demand (see chart 4). Verdi, the services union, extracted a 6.3% pay rise from federal and municipal governments last month. In the engineering sector, where talks are under way, bosses are encountering a more assertive union. Domestic demand is expected to provide all this year's growth, partly because Germany's European trading partners are in such bad shape.
Many of them would profit from becoming more like Germany in terms of building business success, but there are limits. Any leader with backing and boldness can imitate some of what Germany did when its joints were stiffened, like raising the pension age (which France has only just started on) or cutting social-security contributions, as Mr Sarkozy talks of doing. Southern Europe's crash programme of structural reform is partly inspired by Germany. The dual system may be exportable, though not overnight.
But it is another matter to excel in high-end capital goods or to assign to enterprise, unions and the state roles that Germany has been practising, with disastrous interruptions, for more than a century. During the crisis Italy introduced a short-time working scheme like Germany's, but the results were disappointing: Italian firms and their workers could not mimic Germany's ordered flexibility. Germany can offer lessons in how to get back into shape; but the essence of its model is rooted too deeply to be copied with ease.


Correction: In the original version of this story an out-of-date IMF GDP estimate was used in the first chart. The chart now displayed uses IMF estimates released in April this year. This was corrected on April 19th 2012.




Also...in the modern world, merchant shipping is a matter of licensing your flag...ie 'flag of convenience'. Liberia (yes, General Butt Naked's Liberia) has a bigger merchant marine than Greece.

Liberia doesn't have a real merchant marine. It doesn't have real sailors or shipowners. Greece has both, and it's not because it is a flag of convenience. Quite the opposite, most Greek shipowners have adopted flags of convenience instead of the Greek flag...

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 08:12 PM
You're one of Mohammed Reza Pahlavi's fans?... That actually explains a lot.

yes, and I might be related, not with him directly though.

Ars Moriendi
09-25-2014, 08:18 PM
yes, and I might be related, not with him directly though.

How can you support a man that sided with the people that exiled his father for life in 1941 (simply because of favouring the Iranian national interest), and sold out everything Persia stands for just get acceptance from the worst scum of this earth? Atlanticism+Zionism?

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 08:19 PM
The only thing it syas is that the Turks are too stupid to train doctors, and they choose to train mullahs instead! This is why they have a serious lack of doctors. The same shit applies all over the Muslim world, where people die of MERS-coV and other diseases because some MORONS consume camel pee as a "Medicine advised by the prophet"!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7DeOdovU94

This is why even Saudi Arabia imports Greek doctors, and they are also capable of training their own doctors, but the Muslim disease has sucked up their brain...

Anyway, this is no bad for us because we have a chronic over-training of people. The Greek educational system is free, and we have a problem of over-educating people:

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1023%2FA%3A1002981301802



We have a crisis, but Greece remains much better than Africa. We actually need to get rid of the excess doctors and lawyers, not to mention mathematicians e.t.c. Greece lacks technicians, not university students. Germany suceeded because it has more technical education and lesser university degrees, and THIS IS WHAT GREECE NEEDS AS WELL:

http://www.economist.com/node/21552567





Liberia doesn't have a real merchant marine. It doesn't have real sailors or shipowners. Greece has both, and it's not because it is a flag of convenience. Quite the opposite, most Greek shipowners have adopted flags of convenience instead of the Greek flag...

Its embarrassing that there is some certain people in the Arab world actually believe that, much like how some Hindus in India drink cow urine as a form of medicine. Ignorance is a bliss, and really, the more people emphasis in education, the more civilized they be and open to the modern world. Again, there are plenty of educated Indians who dont do these certain things, but that dosent mean that such practices dont exist, you know. Greece is in crisis because of Goldman Sachs, and by that name alone you can figure out which ethnic group the organization is controlled(the happy merchants).

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 08:20 PM
How can you support a man that sided with the people that exiled his father for life in 1941 (simply because of favouring the Iranian national interest), and sold out everything Persia stands for just get acceptance from the worst scum of this earth? Atlanticism+Zionism?

That scum is nothing but a puppet installed by the US to prevent the spread of communism in the middle east, nothing more. He is a puppet, and he is no better than Mubarack, the saud family, the hashemites, and etc.

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 08:20 PM
The word, Iran, literally means the land of the aryans, which being an Aryan has nothing to do in having blonde hair or blue eyes at that time. Hell, even classical greek writers spoke on how alexander the great conquered the aryans in what is now Kabul, Afghanistan, which proves that Greeks only referred the aryan peoples to the indo-iranian peoples, not europeans generally. The movie 300 is nothing but jew produced film which targets in making the iranians look gay and foolish(the same is applied to the Greeks), but also, its a political propaganda film in demonizing the iranians to wage war against their country for israel. Jewllywood always demonized their enemies and non-enemies alike(Arabs, Russians, Italians and etc). The relationship between the ancient greeks and persians wasnt all that bad either. Hell, even Xerxes felt great guilt when he burned Athens to the ground, and tried to rebuild the city(it never come to be because he died before he can do it). Alexander the great respected Persian culture and civilization, and he also admired cyrus the great. Jews and their media always propagate falsehoods to suit their needs.

can't say but excellent post, also Arya was refered to thos of "noble kinded" more rather to anyone have anyone with blue/blond hair (wich you mentionned) which proves ultimately that it had nothing to do with all these sick racist beliefs everyone tries to portray "blond" people.

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 08:26 PM
How can you support a man that sided with the people that exiled his father for life in 1941 (simply because of favouring the Iranian national interest), and sold out everything Persia stands for just get acceptance from the worst scum of this earth? Atlanticism+Zionism?

because he was for peace rather war and "savagery" than other surrounding countries, and during his reign Iran flourished quit well.

Alessio
09-25-2014, 08:27 PM
The only thing it syas is that the Turks are too stupid to train doctors, and they choose to train mullahs instead! This is why they have a serious lack of doctors. The same shit applies all over the Muslim world, where people die of MERS-coV and other diseases because some MORONS consume camel pee as a "Medicine advised by the prophet"!!!

I love Edips Yuksels ruthless approach to hadith stories :laugh:

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 08:27 PM
He was...but he was also a fool, sort of like Morsi. He didnt know how to balance or manage, satisfying his patrons and also controlling dissent. So in that sense, he was inferior to the current crop of Arab rulers.

Those Arab rulers who created the Islamic state and now seek to destroy it? They aren't smarter than a dog which chases his own tail really!

Nope, the Shah had to do with smarter people than those Arab leaders. Shia Persians were always more demanding of their leadership than Sunni Arabs.

In the end of the line, Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi ruled for more than 37 years. That was almost double the reign of Mubarak at 20 years or Ben Ali of Tunisia at 23 years, Hafez al-Assad of 30 years, Saleh of Yemen of 33 years or Buteflica who still runs Algeria after 15 years, with only a few people outpacing him like Gaddafi at 42 years, or Hussein of Jordan at a staggering 47 years...

...Yet Hussein was the second Arab to recognize Israel after Anwar Sadat. He was more of a Jew-licker than the Shah, and his Jew-licking state is the most stable Arab state next to Syria and Iraq! Something tells me that you are wrong: Jew-licking seems to extend an Arab royals' chances of survival!!!

Only the Saudis have stuck with their monarchs, because they are the most stupid of them all!!! They have also turned to Jew-licking though and lately they call for the recognition of Israel...

The champions are - of course - the Moroccans with Hussein II ruling for 28 years and his family still firmly in control. I very much doubt how much he relates to the mess of the Middle East though...

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 08:34 PM
Mediterrenean climates are a dime a dozen bro...They can be easily replaced, all they have is some sandy beaches and islands. we got those too, the Scandos can come here instead. We even got Sycamore and Olive trees in Arabsiyo and Gabiley

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/44963469.jpg

http://s28.postimg.org/ylxqo7rkd/468440753_fdd3f1150b_o.jpg

and nice beaches too:

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4130/bataatale.jpg

Without the tourism, they are nothing.

Mediterranean climates cannot be replaced. Only a fool could believe that his desert is better than the Mediterranean climate. Furthermore:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#Health_effects


A number of diets have received attention, but the strongest evidence for a beneficial health effect and decreased mortality after switching to a largely plant based diet comes from studies of Mediterranean diet, e.g. from the NIH-AARP Diet and Health Study.[20] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-20)The Mediterranean diet often is cited as beneficial for being low in saturated fat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat) and high in monounsaturated fat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monounsaturated_fat) and dietary fiber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietary_fiber). One of the main explanations is thought to be the health effects of olive oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_oil#Nutrition_and_health_effects) included in the Mediterranean diet.
The Mediterranean diet is high in salt content.[21] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-21) Foods such as olives, salt-cured cheeses, anchovies, capers, and salted fish roe all contain high levels of salt.
The inclusion of red wine is considered a factor contributing to health as it contains flavonoids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavonoid) with powerful antioxidant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antioxidant) properties.[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-22)
Dietary factors are only part of the reason for the health benefits enjoyed by certain Mediterranean cultures. A healthy lifestyle (notably a physically active lifestyle or labour) is also beneficial.[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-23)[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-24) Environment may also be involved. However, on the population level, i.e. for the population of a whole country or a region, the influence of genetics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetics) is rather minimal, because it was shown that the slowly changing habits of Mediterranean populations, from a healthy active lifestyle and Mediterranean diet to a not so healthy, less physically active lifestyle and a diet influenced by the Western pattern diet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_pattern_diet), significantly increases risk of heart disease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_disease).[25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-25)[26] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-26)[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-27) There is an inverse association between adherence to the Mediterranean diet and the incidence of fatal and non fatal heart disease in initially healthy middle aged adults in the Mediterranean region.[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-28)
A 2011 systematic review found that a Mediterranean diet appeared to be more effective than a low-fat diet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-fat_diet) in bringing about long-term changes to cardiovascular risk factors, such as lowering cholesterol level (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholesterol_level) and blood pressure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_pressure).[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-29)
A 10-year study found that adherence to a Mediterranean diet and healthful lifestyle was associated with more than a 50% lowering of early death rates.[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-30) A 5-year study of 7,447 people reported that the Mediterranean diet reduced the risk of heart disease in people at high risk by "about 30 percent" when compared with individuals on just a low fat diet.[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-NEJM-20130225-31)[32] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-NYT-20130225-32)
The putative benefits of the Mediterranean diet for cardiovascular health are primarily correlative in nature; while they reflect a very real disparity in the geographic incidence of heart disease, identifying the causal determinant of this disparity has proven difficult. The most popular dietary candidate, olive oil, has been undermined by a body of experimental evidence that diets enriched in monounsaturated fats such as olive oil are not atheroprotective when compared to diets enriched in either polyunsaturated or even saturated fats.[33] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-Monounsaturated_fatty_acids_and_atherosclerosis-33)[34] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-Monounsaturated_fatty_acids_promote_atherosclerosi s-34) A recently emerging alternative hypothesis to the Mediterranean diet is that differential exposure to solar ultraviolet radiation accounts for the disparity in cardiovascular health between residents of Mediterranean and more northerly countries. The proposed mechanism is solar UVB-induced synthesis of Vitamin D in the oils of the skin, which has been observed to reduce the incidence of coronary heart disease, and which rapidly diminishes with increasing latitude.[35] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-35) Interestingly, residents of the Mediterranean are also observed to have very low rates of skin cancer (which is widely believed to be caused by over-exposure to solar UV radiation); incidence of melanomas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melanoma) in the Mediterranean countries is lower than in Northern Europe and significantly lower than in other hot countries such as Australia and New Zealand.[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] Its been hypothesized that some components of the Mediterranean diet may provide protection against skin cancer.
A study published in the Archives of General Psychiatry shows that people who followed the Mediterranean diet were less likely to develop depression.[36] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-36)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#Medical_research


The Seven Countries Study (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Countries_Study)[38] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-38) found that Cretan men had exceptionally low death rates from heart disease, despite moderate to high intake of fat. The Cretan diet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretan_diet) is similar to other traditional Mediterranean diets, consisting mostly of olive oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_oil), bread, abundant fruit and vegetables, fish, and a moderate amount of dairy foods and red wine.The Lyon Diet Heart Study (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lyon_Diet_Heart_Study&action=edit&redlink=1)[39] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-39) set out to mimic the Cretan diet, but adopted a pragmatic approach. Realizing that some of the people in the study (all of whom had survived a first heart attack) would be reluctant to move from butter to olive oil, they used a margarine based on rapeseed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapeseed) (canola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canola)) oil. The dietary change also included 20% increases in vitamin C-rich fruit and bread and decreases in processed and red meat. On this diet, mortality from all causes was reduced by 70%. This study was so successful that the ethics committee decided to stop it prematurely so that the results could be made public immediately.[40] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-refname1-40)[41] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-41)
According to a 2008 study published in BMJ, the traditional Mediterranean diet provides substantial protection against type 2 diabetes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_2_diabetes).[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-42) The study involved over 13 000 graduates from the University of Navarra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Navarra) in Spain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain) with no history of diabetes, who were recruited between December 1999 and November 2007, and whose dietary habits and health were subsequently tracked. Participants initially completed a 136-item food frequency questionnaire designed to measure the entire diet. The questionnaire also included questions on the use of fats and oils, cooking methods and dietary supplements. Every two years participants were sent follow-up questionnaires on diet, lifestyle, risk factors, and medical conditions. New cases of diabetes were confirmed through medical reports. During the follow-up period (median 4.4 years) the researchers from the University of Navarra found that participants who stuck closely to the diet had a lower risk of diabetes. A high adherence to the diet was associated with an 83% relative reduction in the risk of developing diabetes.[43] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-43)
A 2008 study published in The New England Journal of Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_England_Journal_of_Medicine) examined the effects of three diets: low-carb, low-fat, and Mediterranean. The study involved 322 participants and lasted for two years. The low-carb and Mediterranean diet resulted in the greatest weight loss, 12 lbs and 10 lbs, respectively. The low-fat diet resulted in a loss of 7 lbs. One caveat of the study is that 86% of the study participants were men. The low-carb and Mediterranean diets produced similar amounts of weight loss in the overall study results and in the men. In the remaining participants who were women, the Mediterranean diet produced 3.8 kg (8.4 lbs) more weight loss on average than the low-carb diet. However, the low-carb diet produced more favorable changes in blood lipids.[44] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-44)
A meta-analysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta-analysis) published in BMJ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMJ) in 2008 showed that following strictly the Mediterranean diet reduced the risk of dying from cancer and cardiovascular disease as well as the risk of developing Parkinson's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_disease) and Alzheimer's disease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alzheimer%27s_disease). The results report 9%, 9%, and 6% reduction in overall, cardiovascular, and cancer mortality respectively. Additionally a 13% reduction in incidence of Parkinson's and Alzheimer's diseases is to be expected provided strict adherence to the diet is observed.[45] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-pmid18786971-45) As well, a 2007 study found that adherence to the Mediterranean diet (MeDi) may affect not only risk for Alzheimer disease (AD) but also subsequent disease course: Higher adherence to the MeDi is associated with lower mortality in AD. The gradual reduction in mortality risk for higher MeDi adherence tertiles suggests a possible dose-response effect.[46] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-46)
See also: Alzheimer's disease and diet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alzheimer%27s_disease_and_diet)
A study published in the BMJ in 2009 showed some components of the Mediterranean diet, such as high vegetable consumption and low meat and meat product consumption, are more significantly associated with low risk of mortality than other components, such as cereal consumption and fish consumption. As part of the European Prospective Investigation into Cancer and Nutrition study, researchers followed more than 23,000 Greek men and women for 8.5 years to see how various aspects of a Mediterranean diet affect mortality. Moderate alcohol consumption, high fruit and nut consumption, and high legume consumption were also associated with lower risk of mortality.[47] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-47) Mediterranean Diet, articulated into extensive lifestyles interventions in a clinical follow-up study, improves renal artery circulation, decreasing renal resistive index, even without significant modifications of Insulin Resistance. This is a beneficial effect and modifies the pathophysiology of essential hypertension.[48] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-pmid18511765-48) Another study reported in February 2010 found that the diet may help keep the brain healthy by reducing the frequency of mini-strokes that can contribute to mental decline.[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-49) Mediterranean Diet is becoming a comprehensive popular and successful translational paradigm for the promotion of healthier lifestyles.[48] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-pmid18511765-48)
A 2011 meta-analysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta-analysis) published in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology analyzed the results of 50 studies (35 clinical trials, 2 prospective and 13 cross-sectional) covering about 535,000 people to examine the effect of a Mediterranean diet on metabolic syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic_syndrome). The researchers reported that a Mediterranean diet is associated with lower blood pressure, blood sugar, and triglycerides (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triglyceride).[50] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-50)
A 2012 follow-up study in Israel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel), published in The New England Journal of Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_England_Journal_of_Medicine), found that even people who regain some weight after going on a Mediterranean diet can derive lasting benefits from it.[51] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-51)
A meta-analysis published in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition in 2013 compared Mediterranean, vegan, vegetarian, low-glycemic index, low-carbohydrate, high-fiber, and high-protein diets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-protein_diet) with control diets. The research concluded that Mediterranean, low-carbohydrate, low-glycemic index, and high-protein diets are effective in improving markers of risk for cardiovascular disease and diabetes.[52] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-52)
A recent randomized Spanish trial of diet pattern published in The New England Journal of Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_England_Journal_of_Medicine) in 2013 followed almost 7,500 individuals over around 5 years found that individuals on a Mediterranean diet supplemented with mixed nuts and olive oil (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olive_oil) had a 30 percent reduction in risk of having a major cardiovascular event and a 49 percent decrease in stroke risk. Subjects followed one of three different diets. They included either a low fat diet, a Mediterranean diet with 50 ml of extra virgin olive oil daily or a Mediterranean diet with 30 grams of mixed nuts. The nuts were primarily walnuts which have a high amount of omega-3 fatty acids.[31] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-NEJM-20130225-31)
Recently, an observational study published, November 5, 2013, in Annals of Internal Medicine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annals_of_Internal_Medicine) concluded that following a Mediterranean diet might help middle-aged women to live longer and thrive. The study was a 15 years long observational study done to examine the association between dietary patterns at midlife and health in aging. The participants in this study were 10,670 women with dietary data and no major chronic diseases between 1984 and 1986. In addition, all the women were in their late 50s and early 60s. After reviewing the data of 15 years, researchers in this study calculated the outcomes and reported that middle-aged women who followed the Mediterranean diet had a 40% more chance to live up to age 70, compared with other participants who followed a dissimilar eating style.[53] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-53)
A study on obese patients found no association between the overall MedDietScore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MedDietScore) and nephrolithiasis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephrolithiasis), although persons with kidney stones had a lower consumption frequency of olive oil. [54] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediterranean_diet#cite_note-pmid_.3D_24502605-54)

You can't beat Mediterranean diet...

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 08:36 PM
because he was for peace rather war and "savagery" than other surrounding countries, and during his reign Iran flourished quit well.

Iran needs a leader that is both secular and anti-ZOG. The shah was installed by the US to keep communism from spreading, and to help the zionists in the region. He was an absolute dictator and a puppet. Bashar may be a dictator as well, but there is one difference that separates him from the Shah and other dictators in the region and that is that he is free and independent from other countries control and influence. You know what ZOG means, right?

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 08:37 PM
Goat fucker.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/000/120/955/butthurt.jpg

Xanthias
09-25-2014, 08:39 PM
Iran needs a leader that is both secular and anti-ZOG. The shah was installed by the US to keep communism from spreading, and to help the zionists in the region. He was an absolute dictator and a puppet. Bashar may be a dictator as well, but there is one difference that separates him from the Shah and other dictators in the region and that is that he is free and independent from other countries control and influence. You know what ZOG means, right?

let me guess ?

Zionist Occupation Gouvernement ?

and aggreed about your term.

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 08:42 PM
Ahmedinejad meant that Israel needs to change its regime much like russia with the soviet union hence the term, regim, in persian when he spoke against zionism at that time, never indicated that he wants to wipe israel off the map. Iran hasn't attacked any nation for over 200 years(while israel broke more international laws than china and north korea put together), and they aren't going to be intimidated by Israel with their threats against their country. Again, im against islamism in Iran, but at the same time, i do respect the country in not bowing down to ZOG like most countries in the western world.

Ahmadinejad did never rule Iran. He is a puppet. All Iranian presidents are puppets. If you want to know the official opinion of Iran, listen to their current Ayatollah.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 08:47 PM
Those Arab rulers who created the Islamic state and now seek to destroy it? They aren't smarter than a dog which chases his own tail really!

Nope, the Shah had to do with smarter people than those Arab leaders. Shia Persians were always more demanding of their leadership than Sunni Arabs.

In the end of the line, Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi ruled for more than 37 years. That was almost double the reign of Mubarak at 20 years or Ben Ali of Tunisia at 23 years, Hafez al-Assad of 30 years, Saleh of Yemen of 33 years or Buteflica who still runs Algeria after 15 years, with only a few people outpacing him like Gaddafi at 42 years, or Hussein of Jordan at a staggering 47 years...

...Yet Hussein was the second Arab to recognize Israel after Anwar Sadat. He was more of a Jew-licker than the Shah, and his Jew-licking state is the most stable Arab state next to Syria and Iraq! Something tells me that you are wrong: Jew-licking seems to extend an Arab royals' chances of survival!!!

Only the Saudis have stuck with their monarchs, because they are the most stupid of them all!!! They have also turned to Jew-licking though and lately they call for the recognition of Israel...

The champions are - of course - the Moroccans with Hussein II ruling for 28 years and his family still firmly in control. I very much doubt how much he relates to the mess of the Middle East though...

I need to emphasis that not all Arab leaders in the arab world are dumb or grovelling to the west. King Faisal for example was one of the few arab leaders who stood up against the western world, and demanded that the whole world must fight against israel. He was a good ruler until he was killed by his nephew, who flew in from the US and assasinated his uncle. There are protests in saudi arabia against the saud family(though not very big or anything like that). As for the rulers in the UAE, sheikh zayed was a very good and humble arab ruler. He helped my people ALOT and helped others living in the country to get by, and if anyone has any problems financially, and other problems, his doors to his house was always open to them. Sultan Qaboos is also an excellent ruler, and he never butts in or joins in the affaris of other people, whether they're in the middle east or elsewhere. Saddam was an excellent leader as well(even though im very much against his actions against the innocent kurds and persians, and his extreme baathism generally), and made iraq very prosperous and rich. Ghaddafi maybe was an idiot, but at the same time, he made his country very rich and modern, and his death led the country into another islamist broken country(thanks to ZOG governments in the US and Europe). The only arab leader worth standing is Bashar, and really, he is fighting with most of his strength against the FSA and the ISIL terrorists in his country, with the help of Iran and Hezbullah of course. Yes, hussien is a pure scumbag, and he belonged to the Hashemite tribe, which helped the british in ousting the Shammaris from their homes, and carved out palestine for themselves. Again, i dont agree with Islamism in Iran, but i praised the country in being independent and free.

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 09:48 PM
Its embarrassing that there is some certain people in the Arab world actually believe that, much like how some Hindus in India drink cow urine as a form of medicine. Ignorance is a bliss, and really, the more people emphasis in education, the more civilized they be and open to the modern world. Again, there are plenty of educated Indians who dont do these certain things, but that dosent mean that such practices dont exist, you know. Greece is in crisis because of Goldman Sachs, and by that name alone you can figure out which ethnic group the organization is controlled(the happy merchants).

I understand very well what is going on, and it is by far more complex than you think. If you want to know what the Jews really do, you'd better listen to the Jews themselves, who don't hesitate to reveal the truth. They are by far more accurate in their assassments than you are, or Wadaad, or David Duke.

For example, you shall find many Jews condemning the Jewish state of committing war crimes, since 1947, and before, and much much more. You won't find any of them posting outlandish theories about the Shah being overthrown by the Jews, or even being overthrown because he was a puppet of whites or the Jews.

Unfortunately, the ones who are more likely to be Jewish pawns are those who see Jewish conspiracies everywhere. I could make a case that Wadaad is a ZOG controlled agent, but then, there is a chance that he is simply stupid because he is Somali. Personally, I give a 50% chance to be any of the two and 100% chance that he is one of the two. He could also be both - you are aware that the Jews eliminated the moderate Palestinians and supported Hamas against Arafat, aren't you? Wadaad could be the equivalent of the Hamas stooges, but not a Somali equivalent. He could be a Msulim equivalent, who - although soft spoken - makes people think that moderate Islamists are as bad as extremist Islamists, while as a "Screw you" persona, I am certainly more moderate than he will ever be.

The only guy who won't budge against the Jews here is Microrobert. He simply posts news articles, and does a good job at this. Everybody else speaking of Jewish conspiracies here is suspect of being controlled by Jews himself/herself.

Anyway, the situation as it is in the Middle East, is more likely to have AngloJew screwing all of the neighboring states (and beyond) than any of those Hamas goons destroying Israel. I have said it many times, and I will say it again: There is no justice for stupid people. Basically neither democracy could work for stupid people. Since the Jews managed to destroy the education of the Palestinians, and turn them all fanatic anti-Semites and extremists of all sorts, they won the game...

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 09:52 PM
The word, Iran, literally means the land of the aryans, which being an Aryan has nothing to do in having blonde hair or blue eyes at that time. Hell, even classical greek writers spoke on how alexander the great conquered the aryans in what is now Kabul, Afghanistan, which proves that Greeks only referred the aryan peoples to the indo-iranian peoples, not europeans generally. The movie 300 is nothing but jew produced film which targets in making the iranians look gay and foolish(the same is applied to the Greeks), but also, its a political propaganda film in demonizing the iranians to wage war against their country for israel. Jewllywood always demonized their enemies and non-enemies alike(Arabs, Russians, Italians and etc). The relationship between the ancient greeks and persians wasnt all that bad either. Hell, even Xerxes felt great guilt when he burned Athens to the ground, and tried to rebuild the city(it never come to be because he died before he can do it). Alexander the great respected Persian culture and civilization, and he also admired cyrus the great. Jews and their media always propagate falsehoods to suit their needs.

The only thing I know is that the Persians are not brown like Wadaad. Maybe a few of them - descendants of African slaves - are, but certainly not more than 10% of them...

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 09:58 PM
I love Edips Yuksels ruthless approach to hadith stories :laugh:

If the Turks had a Yuksel among them in this forum, I'd have to respect them...

...It is their misfortune they have to deal with the likes of Carlito, Gutelkin and Paint me blood, not to mention the older cases of Hoca, Onur, and Memet...

Xyresic was another one, but I'm not sure whether he still posts or if he retired.

Petros Houhoulis
09-25-2014, 10:03 PM
Iran needs a leader that is both secular and anti-ZOG. The shah was installed by the US to keep communism from spreading, and to help the zionists in the region. He was an absolute dictator and a puppet. Bashar may be a dictator as well, but there is one difference that separates him from the Shah and other dictators in the region and that is that he is free and independent from other countries control and influence. You know what ZOG means, right?

Iran won't budge even if it turns truly secular. The problem is Saudi Arabia, because the only solution there would be for the Saudi family to turn secular. If they get overthrown, you shall witness an Egypt-style scenario at a much worse field than Egypt ever was.

Iran can save itself, but it cannot dominate the Sunnis no matter what. It's just as crazy as the idea of having Turkey leading the Sunni world. The only result would be that, whomever tries to play god, shall be dragged down the mud, and his country shall suffer enormously as well.

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 10:14 PM
I understand very well what is going on, and it is by far more complex than you think. If you want to know what the Jews really do, you'd better listen to the Jews themselves, who don't hesitate to reveal the truth. They are by far more accurate in their assassments than you are, or Wadaad, or David Duke.

For example, you shall find many Jews condemning the Jewish state of committing war crimes, since 1947, and before, and much much more. You won't find any of them posting outlandish theories about the Shah being overthrown by the Jews, or even being overthrown because he was a puppet of whites or the Jews.

Unfortunately, the ones who are more likely to be Jewish pawns are those who see Jewish conspiracies everywhere. I could make a case that Wadaad is a ZOG controlled agent, but then, there is a chance that he is simply stupid because he is Somali. Personally, I give a 50% chance to be any of the two and 100% chance that he is one of the two. He could also be both - you are aware that the Jews eliminated the moderate Palestinians and supported Hamas against Arafat, aren't you? Wadaad could be the equivalent of the Hamas stooges, but not a Somali equivalent. He could be a Msulim equivalent, who - although soft spoken - makes people think that moderate Islamists are as bad as extremist Islamists, while as a "Screw you" persona, I am certainly more moderate than he will ever be.

The only guy who won't budge against the Jews here is Microrobert. He simply posts news articles, and does a good job at this. Everybody else speaking of Jewish conspiracies here is suspect of being controlled by Jews himself/herself.

Anyway, the situation as it is in the Middle East, is more likely to have AngloJew screwing all of the neighboring states (and beyond) than any of those Hamas goons destroying Israel. I have said it many times, and I will say it again: There is no justice for stupid people. Basically neither democracy could work for stupid people. Since the Jews managed to destroy the education of the Palestinians, and turn them all fanatic anti-Semites and extremists of all sorts, they won the game...

Um, not all Palestinians are uneducated and radical as you like to claim. Many of the Palestinians living in Lebanon are abroad are quite educated and etc. "Educational levels among Palestinians have traditionally been high. In the 1960s the West Bank had a higher percentage of its adolescent population enrolled in high school education than did Lebanon."
West Bank 44.6% versus 22.8% in Lebanon. See Elias H.Tuma, Haim Darin-Drabkin, The Economic case for Palestine, London: Croom Helm, 1978, p 48.
Claude Cheysson, France’s Minister for Foreign Affairs under the first Mitterrand Presidency, held in the mid eighties that, ‘even thirty years ago, (Palestinians) probably already had the largest educated elite of all the Arab peoples.’
Interview with Elias Sanbar. Claude Cheysson, "The Right to Self-Determination", Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. 16, no. 1 (Autumn 1986), pp. 3–12; p. 3.

Its unfair to suggest that claiming that ALL palestinians arent educated where most levantines that are working in white collar jobs in this country are Palestinians. The Shah of iran IS a puppet, no better than all the US presidents and politicians today. We arent stupid either, and we are fighting for our rights. Again, i dont agree with Hamas or Islamism, but i do believe in resistance. Your right about one thing and that is the death of Yaser Arafat which he made the palestinians above others in the levant and the middle east in the past. He never took religious extremism or anything like that, and really, when they killed him thats the loss of unity among the palestinians in palestine. Im a moderate palestinians, and many palestinians here are also moderate. I dont understand why you are implying that we arent educated or incapable in livng and working like any descent human being. Take egyptians for example, in egypt, there are plenty of Islamist egyptians in egypt and etc, dosent means that all world wide egyptians are the same ones in egypt(the ones who are also bombing the copts). Again, the egyptians here(they make up around 350,000, and 40,000 of them are coptic) are educated and living like everyone else.
http://www.thenational.ae/uae/coptic-pope-praises-uae-leaders-for-supporting-stability-in-egypt
http://www.thenational.ae/world/christians-in-the-middle-east/coptic-church-pope-arrives-in-the-uae-on-five-day-visit

Yes, im very aware on what jews themselves had to say about themselves. Ben Stien for example, bragged on his article he written in 2008 that how dumb america has gotten since that only 22 percent of americans believed that Jews run hollywood. He made a statement "How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah."
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19

I even watch documentary films about the jewish neocons themselves bragging about themselves that they led the war on Iraq back in 2003:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4

And yes, i do listen to some jews like Benjamin freedman and jack bernstein, but at the same time, i do research myself on the ethnic origins of communism, feminism and etc, which most jews deny in ever having to do with them.

Alessio
09-25-2014, 10:52 PM
Edip is born a Kurd by the way.


If the Turks had a Yuksel among them in this forum, I'd have to respect them...

...It is their misfortune they have to deal with the likes of Carlito, Gutelkin and Paint me blood, not to mention the older cases of Hoca, Onur, and Memet...

Xyresic was another one, but I'm not sure whether he still posts or if he retired.

Anglojew
09-25-2014, 11:15 PM
Iran needs a leader that is both secular and anti-ZOG. The shah was installed by the US to keep communism from spreading, and to help the zionists in the region. He was an absolute dictator and a puppet. Bashar may be a dictator as well, but there is one difference that separates him from the Shah and other dictators in the region and that is that he is free and independent from other countries control and influence. You know what ZOG means, right?

Exactly the opposite, the Pahlavis were installed for nationalist reasons:


after Ahmad Shah Qajar, the last ruler of the Qajar dynasty, proved unable to stop British and Soviet encroachment on Iranian sovereignty, and was consequently overthrown in a military coup, abdicated and ultimately exiled to France.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahlavi_dynasty

Kamal900
09-25-2014, 11:19 PM
Exactly the opposite, the Pahlavis were installed for nationalist reasons:



http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pahlavi_dynasty

The US(CIA) even admitted that they helped them getting to power back in august 2013:
www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB126/iran980600.pdf

Anglojew
09-25-2014, 11:21 PM
Still, the Shah has been more competent than all of the Somali politicians who ever lived.Nope, the Ancient name of Persia is Persia, and this is how it is described in all classical texts. Iran was not know as a word to Western people, because it existed only in Zoroastrian or Ancient Persian texts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_(word)



If the Shah had been tutored by the "white man", he would probably chose "Ariana" as in Strabos' texts, not Iran! But then, we are discussing with a retard Somali here who can't make up the difference between his head and his arse...

Persians a brown people?

You are watching too much Jewlywood Wadaad!

Tell me, who is the brown man? The Jewlywood Persian, or the real Persian???

http://swordofelysium.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/kingxerxes3.png

Except the movie is faithful to the comic, drawn by Irish Catholic Frank Miller:

https://moviecomicswhoswho.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/xerxescomics1.jpg

If anything the movies made him more caucasoid.

People like you are so full of shit trying to blame Jews for everything.

Anglojew
09-25-2014, 11:34 PM
The US(CIA) even admitted that they helped them getting to power back in august 2013:
www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB126/iran980600.pdf

That was mainly the Dulles Brothers. Not sure what this has to do with Jews other than Iran had good relations with Israel under the Shah. Contrary to popular belief Jews and Persians don't hate each other.

Ars Moriendi
09-25-2014, 11:37 PM
That was mainly the Dulles Brothers. Not sure what this has to do with Jews other than Iran had good relations with Israel under the Shah. Contrary to popular belief Jews and Persians don't hate each other.

I can assure you without a shred of a doubt, that Persian Nationalists (whether Shia, Christian or Zoroastrians) have absolutely no sympathy for Jewry. Just as they have zero sympathy for Turks.

Anglojew
09-26-2014, 12:44 AM
I can assure you without a shred of a doubt, that Persian Nationalists (whether Shia, Christian or Zoroastrians) have absolutely no sympathy for Jewry. Just as they have zero sympathy for Turks.

Right, exactly the reason posters are wrong in this thread linking the installation of the Pahlavis with a Jewish plot

Petros Houhoulis
09-26-2014, 12:48 AM
I need to emphasis that not all Arab leaders in the arab world are dumb or grovelling to the west. King Faisal for example was one of the few arab leaders who stood up against the western world, and demanded that the whole world must fight against israel.

King Faisal belonged to a different era, when the West needed the Arabs against the Nazis, and thus they were forced to listen. Still, King Faisal could not overcome the problem of promoting a culture which was not compatible to the Western culture, while the Jews after the Holocaust had to suck up to the West as much as they could, and hide their Levantine side. In the end, the Jews created a Western state in the midst of Eastern states, and from then on it was easy for them to dominate. The Muslims have failed to find a way to incorporate Western progress because there were always some Qutbists who couldn't get away from religion, the way Western people have done.


He was a good ruler until he was killed by his nephew, who flew in from the US and assasinated his uncle. There are protests in saudi arabia against the saud family(though not very big or anything like that). As for the rulers in the UAE, sheikh zayed was a very good and humble arab ruler. He helped my people ALOT and helped others living in the country to get by, and if anyone has any problems financially, and other problems, his doors to his house was always open to them. Sultan Qaboos is also an excellent ruler, and he never butts in or joins in the affaris of other people, whether they're in the middle east or elsewhere.

Seaborne nations always have the best administrations, if only they could have some size!


Saddam was an excellent leader as well(even though im very much against his actions against the innocent kurds and persians, and his extreme baathism generally), and made iraq very prosperous and rich.

Saddam initiated two pointless wars against Iran and Kuwait. His sons were even worse. They would have been overthrown anyway, but the Yankees made it many times worse than it was supposed to be.


Ghaddafi maybe was an idiot, but at the same time, he made his country very rich and modern, and his death led the country into another islamist broken country(thanks to ZOG governments in the US and Europe).

Ghaddafi was eccentric, but slightly better than Saddam. Some of his sons were good actually, and one was truly miserable. He managed to hide repression in his country much more effectively than Saddam did.


The only arab leader worth standing is Bashar, and really, he is fighting with most of his strength against the FSA and the ISIL terrorists in his country, with the help of Iran and Hezbullah of course.

The Assads had to rely more upon alliances than oil, and this saved them. Syria does not produce so much oil, and has better backing than Iraq or Libya, both of which acted arrogantly and alienated their neighbors, so they ended up shitholes because nobody cared for them in the region anymore. The West cannot destroy a state which has regional support, and this is what Assad proved.


Yes, hussien is a pure scumbag, and he belonged to the Hashemite tribe, which helped the british in ousting the Shammaris from their homes, and carved out palestine for themselves.

Hussein took advantage of his supposed lineage from Muhammad, in order to dominate a foreign land. Jordan today as a puppet state has become a perpetual asylum of people who lived in once stronger states, and this shall bring more loyalty to his regime. Ironically, the peaceful sellouts fare better than those who kept their pride. If they keep receiving more and more refugees, the situation there might explode, and this is going to be bad for everybody in the region.


Again, i dont agree with Islamism in Iran, but i praised the country in being independent and free.

Iran fares very very well. Islamism is not a problem for them. Maybe they have some human rights issues, but that's all. It would take an Alexander the Great to disturb their lull, but he is dead!

Ars Moriendi
09-26-2014, 12:49 AM
Right, exactly the reason posters are wrong in this thread linking the installation of the Pahlavis with a Jewish plot

Reza Shah was overthrown in 1941 for being a close partner of the III Reich. His son, was brought forth to power by an Anglo-American and Soviet agreement. Whether you can reduce that to "Jewish" or not, is something I won't do.

Petros Houhoulis
09-26-2014, 01:11 AM
Um, not all Palestinians are uneducated and radical as you like to claim. Many of the Palestinians living in Lebanon are abroad are quite educated and etc. "Educational levels among Palestinians have traditionally been high. In the 1960s the West Bank had a higher percentage of its adolescent population enrolled in high school education than did Lebanon."
West Bank 44.6% versus 22.8% in Lebanon. See Elias H.Tuma, Haim Darin-Drabkin, The Economic case for Palestine, London: Croom Helm, 1978, p 48.

The Palestinians had much better education that the most of the Arabs surrounding them. The problem is that the generation of Edward Said is dead, and their descendants simply don't stand a chance. Only the diaspora could help them, just as Arafat came from the diaspora and created a meaningful movement in the past.


Claude Cheysson, France’s Minister for Foreign Affairs under the first Mitterrand Presidency, held in the mid eighties that, ‘even thirty years ago, (Palestinians) probably already had the largest educated elite of all the Arab peoples.’
Interview with Elias Sanbar. Claude Cheysson, "The Right to Self-Determination", Journal of Palestine Studies, Vol. 16, no. 1 (Autumn 1986), pp. 3–12; p. 3.

Its unfair to suggest that claiming that ALL palestinians arent educated where most levantines that are working in white collar jobs in this country are Palestinians.

I said that the Jews simply destroyed the Palestinian education. From that it is quite apparent how the situation evolved. It wasn't always like that.


The Shah of iran IS a puppet, no better than all the US presidents and politicians today. We arent stupid either, and we are fighting for our rights. Again, i dont agree with Hamas or Islamism, but i do believe in resistance.

Ghandi also believed in resistance. This didn't prevent the partition of India in three pieces, but the fanatics had to massacre him in order to prevail. Palestine never had a Ghandi, and certainly a more formidable enemy than India ever had.


Your right about one thing and that is the death of Yaser Arafat which he made the palestinians above others in the levant and the middle east in the past. He never took religious extremism or anything like that, and really, when they killed him thats the loss of unity among the palestinians in palestine. Im a moderate palestinians, and many palestinians here are also moderate. I dont understand why you are implying that we arent educated or incapable in livng and working like any descent human being.

You are capable, but you are no longer living in Palestine. The Palestinian education does no longer relate to you!


Take egyptians for example, in egypt, there are plenty of Islamist egyptians in egypt and etc, dosent means that all world wide egyptians are the same ones in egypt(the ones who are also bombing the copts). Again, the egyptians here(they make up around 350,000, and 40,000 of them are coptic) are educated and living like everyone else.

http://www.thenational.ae/uae/coptic-pope-praises-uae-leaders-for-supporting-stability-in-egypt
http://www.thenational.ae/world/christians-in-the-middle-east/coptic-church-pope-arrives-in-the-uae-on-five-day-visit

The Egyptians are also among the best in the neighborhood. Once they budged to Jewish pressure, they manage to cut their losses. Still, they had numerous problems with Qutbists like Al Zawahiri. They are still standing, and I believe that they shall persevere in the end, but they need time. Their education did not go under, and this is their fortune. Egypt could easily regain its' leading role in the Arab world some day in the future.


Yes, im very aware on what jews themselves had to say about themselves. Ben Stien for example, bragged on his article he written in 2008 that how dumb america has gotten since that only 22 percent of americans believed that Jews run hollywood. He made a statement "How deeply Jewish is Hollywood? When the studio chiefs took out a full-page ad in the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago to demand that the Screen Actors Guild settle its contract, the open letter was signed by: News Corp. President Peter Chernin (Jewish), Paramount Pictures Chairman Brad Grey (Jewish), Walt Disney Co. Chief Executive Robert Iger (Jewish), Sony Pictures Chairman Michael Lynton (surprise, Dutch Jew), Warner Bros. Chairman Barry Meyer (Jewish), CBS Corp. Chief Executive Leslie Moonves (so Jewish his great uncle was the first prime minister of Israel), MGM Chairman Harry Sloan (Jewish) and NBC Universal Chief Executive Jeff Zucker (mega-Jewish). If either of the Weinstein brothers had signed, this group would have not only the power to shut down all film production but to form a minyan with enough Fiji water on hand to fill a mikvah."
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19

I even watch documentary films about the jewish neocons themselves bragging about themselves that they led the war on Iraq back in 2003:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jilA-ZeBUI4

And yes, i do listen to some jews like Benjamin freedman and jack bernstein, but at the same time, i do research myself on the ethnic origins of communism, feminism and etc, which most jews deny in ever having to do with them.

The Jews were heavily involved with Communism, even Marx was Jewish. Still, the leftist Jews were not by definition Zionists. Marx wanted the German Jews to assimilate to German culture, for example. He didn't want to go back to Israel. The Zionist movement was a very small at the beginning, and the religious Jews opposed it, for the same reason some religious Jews oppose it today: It was supposed to be created by the messiah, not because they were kicked out of Europe by the NAZIs! It was a matter of time for the smarter of the Jews to dominate the game though. Ultimately, even within the Jews the more stupid are the religious ones.

Petros Houhoulis
09-26-2014, 01:14 AM
Except the movie is faithful to the comic, drawn by Irish Catholic Frank Miller:

https://moviecomicswhoswho.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/xerxescomics1.jpg

If anything the movies made him more caucasoid.

People like you are so full of shit trying to blame Jews for everything.

C'mon now, I was trolling Wadaad. He spoke of Jewlywood, I turned him a Jewlywood stooge too!

Petros Houhoulis
09-26-2014, 01:18 AM
Reza Shah was overthrown in 1941 for being a close partner of the III Reich. His son, was brought forth to power by an Anglo-American and Soviet agreement. Whether you can reduce that to "Jewish" or not, is something I won't do.

I still don't understand why the Jews had ANYTHING to do with Persia. I can understand the protests of the Palestinians, but this "Jew under every stone" has grown out of proportion...

If a few million Jews can make fools of more than a billion Muslims, not to mention the Yankees and Europe, they must have some sort of Alien intelligence! It's just not possible to explain it otherwise...

Longbowman
09-26-2014, 09:02 AM
I've worked with Jews but I am not one of them. I couldn't stand their religion.

You are a typical idiot, if I was a faggot, I would have no problem declaring it in this forum, exactly the way Sikeliot, Longbowman and Arberori have done. Unfortunately - for you - I am not.

Now go hunt for faggots, kill them and eat them, in your little shithole. Who gives a shit, you are all fucked up there anyway...

Pardon me?

Petros Houhoulis
09-26-2014, 01:00 PM
Pardon me?

My apologies, I must have confused you with someone else!

Or I am just trolling you like the other day with the bestiality porn!!!

BTW, why did Stefan Dusan post bestiality pictures? Did you ever find out???

Longbowman
09-26-2014, 01:06 PM
My apologies, I must have confused you with someone else!

It's quite alright, just surprised to learn that about myself. Was about to inform my girlfriend of the unfortunate change.

crimethink
09-28-2014, 11:18 AM
Africa is valuable to the world for the same reason Antarctica is valuable to the world: natural resources, including non-simian wildlife.

Petros Houhoulis
09-30-2014, 12:13 PM
It's quite alright, just surprised to learn that about myself. Was about to inform my girlfriend of the unfortunate change.

Well, if I were you I would arrange for a threesome with a really hung guy. This way at least, your girlfriend would find out in a really good way...

dude
09-30-2014, 01:19 PM
Fried Chicken and PB&J. But there will be a total crisis among the white kids because they will have to make their own tunes instead of playing the wigga with their nigga tunes.

Ctwentysevenj
09-30-2014, 01:33 PM
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:We would miss these high intellect minds:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/v1/temp/articles_illustrated/blindspot/lipplate_series.jpg

Ctwentysevenj
09-30-2014, 01:40 PM
And African top airports:cool:


http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9055503.ece/alternates/w620/CAR.jpg

Yuffayur
02-10-2015, 12:45 PM
Your sisters and mothers will die without some dick.

Borna
02-10-2015, 12:47 PM
Nothing, i just hope animal species would find their way out, as for sub animals i dont care.

Yuffayur
02-10-2015, 12:51 PM
And African top airports:cool:



http://travelsofpatrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/OR-Tambo.jpg

http://www.johannesburg-airport.com/images/facilities.jpg

Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik
02-10-2015, 12:53 PM
To be honest we really wouldn't suffer at all.

Yuffayur
02-10-2015, 12:56 PM
You talk behind your screen, but in front of a 6.3ft Senegalese, you will say other things xD

StonyArabia
02-10-2015, 12:56 PM
The idiocy in this thread is quite amazing.

Kamal900
02-10-2015, 01:04 PM
You talk behind your screen, but in front of a 6.3ft Senegalese, you will say other things xD

Be careful, if you talked anything against him that would be Nazism because he's Jewish(you know how Europe deals with anti-semites). As i said many times, he is a uber Zionist Jew, and he has an agenda in this forum to get as many white members to his side as possible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x2DFnGI9Ac

Somewhere in Israel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOomBSTTzrU

Yuffayur
02-10-2015, 01:38 PM
Be careful, if you talked anything against him that would be Nazism because he's Jewish(you know how Europe deals with anti-semites). As i said many times, he is a uber Zionist Jew, and he has an agenda in this forum to get as many white members to his side as possible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x2DFnGI9Ac

Somewhere in Israel:

I lived for many years in France, where the situation is hard for us, if you insult a foreigner/ethnic french it's ok, but if you criticize a jew, it's automatically anti-semitism, 6m firm xD
If he's that way, he can get all the members with him, they can't and won't change our lifes.
actually I don't care about their Agenda, Islam, MENA,... = evil blablabla. I let them say what they want.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOomBSTTzrU

I see too many racist in this video lol, they don't want Sudanese in "their" lands xD even if they're there not more than 70years.

an off topic quote, they look something Gypsy-med mix.

Kazimiera
02-10-2015, 03:20 PM
If Africa was gone there wouldn't be much left to exploit.

Let's first have a look at Africa's resources...

http://thumbnails.visually.netdna-cdn.com/world-commodities-map-africa_536becb7083f7_w670.png


Now let's have a look at who owns Africa's resources...

http://afrospear.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/afi.jpg


Now let's look at which countries all have a finger in the pie.

http://imperialism-period7.wikispaces.com/file/view/Imperialism_in_Africa.jpg/183992499/307x439/Imperialism_in_Africa.jpg

I see quite a number of European countries who would suffer greatly if Africa was gone.

Leto
02-10-2015, 03:22 PM
The main problem of Africa is its population. It's sad, but I cannot help admitting it.

wvwvw
02-10-2015, 03:23 PM
Our living standards would deteriorate so much that Europe would become the new Africa.

Kazimiera
02-10-2015, 03:25 PM
Fried Chicken and PB&J. But there will be a total crisis among the white kids because they will have to make their own tunes instead of playing the wigga with their nigga tunes.

Fried chicken and nigga tunes are an American phenomenon.

wvwvw
02-10-2015, 03:25 PM
The main problem of Africa is its population. It's sad, but I cannot help admitting it.

I thought it was the most scarcely populatated continent !? but I may be be wrong

Kazimiera
02-10-2015, 03:31 PM
I thought it was the most scarcely populatated continent !? but I may be be wrong

Instead of looking at populations themselves, rather look at population density

http://www.nationsonline.org/maps/world-population-map.jpg

Tokyo can and does accommodate half of South Africa's entire population.

StonyArabia
02-10-2015, 03:33 PM
I thought it was the most scarcely populatated continent !? but I may be be wrong

For the most part it's with the exception of Egypt.

Leto
02-10-2015, 03:37 PM
I thought it was the most scarcely populatated continent !? but I may be be wrong
It is the fastest-growing continent (Sub-Saharan Africa). I get scared when I think about Africa. Nigeria alone is projected to have like 400+ million inhabitants by the year 2050.

StonyArabia
02-10-2015, 03:51 PM
It is the fastest-growing continent (Sub-Saharan Africa). I get scared when I think about Africa. Nigeria alone is projected to have like 400+ million inhabitants by the year 2050.

Why? There are many good people among Africans.

wvwvw
02-10-2015, 03:56 PM
Why? There are many good people among Africans.

They are subhumans or rather subspecies :laugh:

Vesuvian Sky
02-10-2015, 03:59 PM
If this happened 20 years ago, there sure would be a lot less Nigerian touts in Roppongi Tokyo to ruin everyone's vacation. That's for sure.:coffee:

Leto
02-10-2015, 03:59 PM
Why? There are many good people among Africans.
Honestly, I don't feel like living among blacks.

StonyArabia
02-10-2015, 04:04 PM
Honestly, I don't feel like living among blacks.

I see but not all are the same though. Aframs have a different situation, most African immigrants seem to be hard workers and often keep to themselves, at least here.

Kazimiera
02-10-2015, 04:07 PM
It is the fastest-growing continent (Sub-Saharan Africa). I get scared when I think about Africa. Nigeria alone is projected to have like 400+ million inhabitants by the year 2050.

The whole of Africa has a population of 1.1 billion. India has 1.2 billion. China has 1.3 billion. Compare the size of Africa to India or China.

Europe has a population of nearly 800 million. Compare the density of 800 million people in Europe vs the 1.1 billion Africans spread over an entire continent.

http://maps101.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/5e01ab85f93a24658b52edc568e71798.jpg

Add up the populations of the countries which could fit into Africa (latest stats according to Google) vs the actual African population:

China 1.3 billion
India 1.2 billion
United States 315 million
France 66 million
Eastern Europe 190 million
Italy 59 million
Germany 80 million
Spain 47 million
United Kingdom 64 million
Belgium 11 million
Netherlands 16 million
Switzerland 8 million
Japan 127 million

wvwvw
02-10-2015, 04:13 PM
The whole of Africa has a population of 1.1 billion. India has 1.2 billion. China has 1.3 billion. Compare the size of Africa to India or China.

Europe has a population of nearly 800 million. Compare the density of 800 million people in Europe vs the 1.1 billion Africans spread over an entire continent.

http://maps101.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/5e01ab85f93a24658b52edc568e71798.jpg

Add up the populations of the countries which could fit into Africa (latest stats according to Google) vs the actual African population:

China 1.3 billion
India 1.2 billion
United States 315 million
France 66 million
Eastern Europe 190 million
Italy 59 million
Germany 80 million
Spain 47 million
United Kingdom 64 million
Belgium 11 million
Netherlands 16 million
Switzerland 8 million
Japan 127 million

I am sure Greece could be squeezed in there between Italy and Eastern Europe ;)

Amazing how many countries/regions can fit in Africa

dude
02-10-2015, 06:04 PM
Fried chicken and nigga tunes are an American phenomenon.
Yes, look it up in you tube for the chicken song. ;)

Northumbrian
02-28-2015, 08:12 PM
Britain would suffer a temporary shortage of tea (much grown in Kenya) which could lead to anarchy itself, diamonds would rocket in price along with a few other resources and the world would have to dump all its old computers in some other backwater (preferably somewhere in Asia).
And the world would have less breeding grounds for diseases and carriers of them, world economy would have a minor hiccup then continue as normal. In short, less important than if say France or Spain got destroyed.