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Sikeliot
09-26-2014, 05:20 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Pontus_Greek_family.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ec/Pontian_Greek_family.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Trabzon_Greeks_1915.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/Pontian_Greek_women.JPG/800px-Pontian_Greek_women.JPG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Pontian_Greek_Soldiers.JPG

Tooting Carmen
09-26-2014, 05:24 AM
Well it's rather hard to say, given the photos are in b/w. But probably Georgian.

aherne
09-26-2014, 05:24 AM
Some look Turkish, some look Georgian, some look Greek. Most have their own look...

Bloodnigger
09-26-2014, 05:26 AM
Quite a few look very foreign, rest look pretty mixed.

Sikeliot
09-26-2014, 05:26 AM
To me they look less Greek than Cypriots do.

cally
09-26-2014, 05:28 AM
Maybe not modern but they look ancient greek.

Crn Volk
09-26-2014, 05:30 AM
Georgian.

Hadouken
09-26-2014, 05:31 AM
they look like a mix of Greece and Georgia

MINARDOWICZ
09-26-2014, 05:49 AM
they look like a mix of Greece and Georgia

The boy on the far left... did you look like that as a young one? ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Pontus_Greek_family.JPG

Sikeliot
09-26-2014, 05:50 AM
The boy on the far left... did you look like that as a young one? ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Pontus_Greek_family.JPG

No, he is closer to some of my cousins though.

MINARDOWICZ
09-26-2014, 05:55 AM
No, he is closer to some of my cousins though.

I meant Bereal... He looks like Bereal to me.

Sikeliot
09-26-2014, 06:00 AM
I meant Bereal... He looks like Bereal to me.

that makes more sense since genetically kurds are close to caucasus people.

Faklon
09-26-2014, 06:40 AM
Guy on the right bares some resemblance to some Ionian busts.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/Pontian_Greek_Soldiers.JPG

Overall voted for 3rd.

Trun
09-26-2014, 07:15 AM
Most people here haven't seen a single Georgian in their entire lives so they wouldn't be able to make a comparison.


Maybe not modern but they look ancient greek.

You realise not all ancient Greek were unibrow East Meds right?

Scholarios
09-26-2014, 07:20 AM
Most people here haven't seen a single Georgian in their entire lives so they wouldn't be able to make a comparison.



You realise not all ancient Greek were unibrow East Meds right?

I don't even get it. Georgians aren't even as dark as the people Sikeliot posts.

Google Images search for Georgians (https://www.google.co.kr/search?q=%E1%83%A5%E1%83%90%E1%83%A0%E1%83%97%E1%8 3%95%E1%83%94%E1%83%9A%E1%83%94%E1%83%91%E1%83%98&newwindow=1&biw=1280&bih=923&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IxMlVP2uOcHe8AXx54HQBw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ)

They look obviously different. As for modern Pontic descendants. Sure, some look similar, but most do not. Sikeliot's though experiments are way off as usual, I believe.

Sikeliot
09-26-2014, 07:45 AM
I don't even get it. Georgians aren't even as dark as the people Sikeliot posts.

Google Images search for Georgians (https://www.google.co.kr/search?q=%E1%83%A5%E1%83%90%E1%83%A0%E1%83%97%E1%8 3%95%E1%83%94%E1%83%9A%E1%83%94%E1%83%91%E1%83%98&newwindow=1&biw=1280&bih=923&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IxMlVP2uOcHe8AXx54HQBw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ)

They look obviously different. As for modern Pontic descendants. Sure, some look similar, but most do not. Sikeliot's though experiments are way off as usual, I believe.

Well it proves then that the "Caucasus" component in genome testing doesn't make people woggy then! But are you really saying Greeks are darker than Georgians?

Scholarios
09-26-2014, 07:50 AM
Well it proves then that the "Caucasus" component in genome testing doesn't make people woggy then! But are you really saying Greeks are darker than Georgians?

Ok- I don't know if they are "darker". But the people in your photos of Pontians look different than Georgians (who btw I think are one of the most attractive people in the world). I mean, like, obviously different.

Sikeliot
09-26-2014, 08:19 AM
Ok- I don't know if they are "darker". But the people in your photos of Pontians look different than Georgians (who btw I think are one of the most attractive people in the world). I mean, like, obviously different.

It might depend on the Georgian group. If you look up Laz and Mingrelians they look like that too. I.e.

http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/46/4614/AUXFG00Z/posters/three-mingrelian-women-from-georgia-russia.jpg

gültekin
09-26-2014, 08:36 AM
old photos, hard to say, some of them looking armenian

I don't even get it. Georgians aren't even as dark as the people Sikeliot posts.


Google Images search for Georgians (https://www.google.co.kr/search?q=%E1%83%A5%E1%83%90%E1%83%A0%E1%83%97%E1%8 3%95%E1%83%94%E1%83%9A%E1%83%94%E1%83%91%E1%83%98&newwindow=1&biw=1280&bih=923&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=IxMlVP2uOcHe8AXx54HQBw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ)

They look obviously different. As for modern Pontic descendants. Sure, some look similar, but most do not. Sikeliot's though experiments are way off as usual, I believe.
http://www.picz.ge/img/s1/1205/13/0/088e12b1e48d.jpg
but she is a Greek girl, absolutely Greek. probably a "Georgianified" Greek

Greek girl

aherne
09-26-2014, 09:05 AM
There is some Aryan influence in Georgians. When they occur, they are all Steppe Types (proto-"Nordid"):
http://www.worldsport.ge/uploads/photo/main/121/121457.jpg

turkojew
09-26-2014, 09:22 AM
The boy on the far left... did you look like that as a young one? ;)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/34/Pontus_Greek_family.JPG

that family is the most georgian looking comparing to others. that boy, mother and father looks exactly like a georgian. big ears on kids(i had big ears when i was a child too, everyone was calling me midas), noses like that, red beard, being hairy are typical georgian traits.

Instinct
09-26-2014, 09:29 AM
The last two photos remind me some of my relatives from my father's side lol.

The people on photos look Greek, there is some Georgian influence but not very strong.

spoiler!
09-26-2014, 09:36 AM
a mix of Greece and Georgia,Turkish

Hadouken
09-28-2014, 05:58 AM
that family is the most georgian looking comparing to others. that boy, mother and father looks exactly like a georgian. big ears on kids(i had big ears when i was a child too, everyone was calling me midas), noses like that, red beard, being hairy are typical georgian traits.

but I was like that too

turkojew
09-28-2014, 07:09 PM
but I was like that too

Mate you can easily pass as a georgian as i said before :)

Hadouken
09-28-2014, 07:13 PM
Mate you can easily pass as a georgian as i said before :)

I mean that I dont think that it children with this look is not exclusive to Georgians :tongue :)

turkojew
09-28-2014, 07:27 PM
I mean that I dont think that it children with this look is not exclusive to Georgians :tongue :)

no no of course not even my pomak friend has it :D its just common :D

Hadouken
09-28-2014, 07:29 PM
no no of course not even my pomak friend has it :D its just common :D

west asia stronk !