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Pallantides
03-20-2010, 11:20 PM
The Amerindian tribes of North America

Pawnee
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Pawnee/pawnee1.jpg
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http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Pawnee/pawnee6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Pawnee/pawnee7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Pawnee/pawnee8.jpg

Crow
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Crow/crow1.jpg
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http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Crow/crow3.jpg
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http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Crow/crow7.jpg
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http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Crow/crow9.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Crow/crow10.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Crow/crow11.jpg

Blackfoot
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Blackfoot/blackfoot1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Blackfoot/blackfoot2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Blackfoot/blackfoot3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Blackfoot/blackfoot4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Blackfoot/blackfoot5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Blackfoot/blackfoot6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Blackfoot/blackfoot7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Blackfoot/blackfoot8.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Blackfoot/blackfoot9.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Blackfoot/blackfoot10.jpg

Nez Perce
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Nez%20Perce/nez-perce1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Nez%20Perce/nez-perce2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Nez%20Perce/nez-perce3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Nez%20Perce/nez-perce4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Nez%20Perce/nez-perce5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Nez%20Perce/nez-perce6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Nez%20Perce/nez-perce7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Nez%20Perce/nez-perce8.jpg

Kiowa
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Kiowa/kiowa1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Kiowa/kiowa2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Kiowa/kiowa3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Kiowa/kiowa4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Kiowa/kiowa5.jpg

Lakota
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota8.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota9.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota10.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota11.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota12.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota13.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota14.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota15.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota16.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota17.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota19.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota20.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota21.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota22.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Lakota/lakota23.jpg

Shoshone
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Shoshone/shoshone1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Shoshone/shoshone2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Shoshone/shoshone3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Shoshone/shoshone4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Shoshone/shoshone5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Shoshone/shoshone6.jpg

Arapaho
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Arapaho/arapaho1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Arapaho/arapaho2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Arapaho/arapaho3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Arapaho/arapaho4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Arapaho/arapaho5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Arapaho/arapaho6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Arapaho/arapaho7.jpg

Cheyenne
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cheyenne/cheyenne1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cheyenne/cheyenne2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cheyenne/cheyenne3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cheyenne/cheyenne4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cheyenne/cheyenne5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cheyenne/cheyenne6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cheyenne/cheyenne7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cheyenne/cheyenne8.jpg

Cherokee
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee8.jpg

Potawatomi
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Potawatomi/potawatomi1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Potawatomi/potawatomi2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Potawatomi/potawatomi3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Potawatomi/potawatomi4.jpg

Pallantides
03-21-2010, 12:01 AM
Comanche
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Comanche/comanche1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Comanche/comanche2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Comanche/comanche3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Comanche/comanche4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Comanche/comanche5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Comanche/comanche6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Comanche/comanche7.jpg

Zuni
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Zuni/zuni1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Zuni/zuni2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Zuni/zuni3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Zuni/zuni4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Zuni/zuni5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Zuni/zuni6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Zuni/zuni7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Zuni/zuni8.jpg

Apache
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Apache/apache1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Apache/apache2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Apache/apache3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Apache/apache4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Apache/apache5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Apache/apache6.jpg

Seminole
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Seminole/seminole1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Seminole/seminole2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Seminole/seminole3.jpg

Salish
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Salish/salish1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Salish/salish2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Salish/salish3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Salish/salish5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Salish/salish6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Salish/salish7.jpg

Wichita
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Wichita/wichita1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Wichita/wichita2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Wichita/wichita3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Wichita/wichita4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Wichita/wichita5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Wichita/wichita6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Wichita/wichita7.jpg

Umatilla
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Umatilla/umatilla1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Umatilla/umatilla2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Umatilla/umatilla3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Umatilla/umatilla4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Umatilla/umatilla5.jpg

Cayuse
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cayuse/cayuse1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cayuse/cayuse2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cayuse/cayuse3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cayuse/cayuse4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cayuse/cayuse5.jpg¨

Yakama
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yakama/yakama1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yakama/yakama2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yakama/yakama3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yakama/yakama4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yakama/yakama5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yakama/yakama6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yakama/yakama7.jpg

Saruman
03-21-2010, 10:27 AM
Lot's of Silvids.:D

Pallantides
03-21-2010, 10:44 AM
Yankton
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton8.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton9.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton10.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton11.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Yankton/yankton12.jpg

Otoe
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Otoe/otoe1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Otoe/otoe2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Otoe/otoe3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Otoe/otoe4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Otoe/otoe5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Otoe/otoe6.jpg

Ponca
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ponca/ponca1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ponca/ponca2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ponca/ponca3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ponca/ponca4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ponca/ponca5.jpg

Tlingit
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Tlingit/tlingit1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Tlingit/tlingit2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Tlingit/tlingit3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Tlingit/tlingit4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Tlingit/tlingit5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Tlingit/tlingit6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Tlingit/tlingit7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Tlingit/tlingit8.jpg

Ho-Chunk
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ho-Chunk/winnebago1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ho-Chunk/winnebago2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ho-Chunk/winnebago3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ho-Chunk/winnebago4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ho-Chunk/winnebago5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ho-Chunk/winnebago6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Ho-Chunk/winnebago7.jpg

Omaha
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Omaha/omaha1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Omaha/omaha2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Omaha/omaha3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Omaha/omaha4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Omaha/omaha5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Omaha/omaha6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Omaha/omaha7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Omaha/omaha8.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Omaha/omaha9.jpg

Caddo
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Caddo/caddo1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Caddo/caddo2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Caddo/caddo3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Caddo/caddo4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Caddo/caddo5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Caddo/caddo6.jpg

I have always been quite fascinated by the Native Americans and their culture.
bArhAQ9oOr4

Pallantides
03-21-2010, 12:48 PM
Hopi
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi8.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi9.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi10.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi11.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi12.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi13.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi14.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi15.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Hopi/hopi16.jpg

Navajo
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Navajo/navajo1.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Navajo/navajo2.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Navajo/navajo3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Navajo/navajo4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Navajo/navajo5.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Navajo/navajo6.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Navajo/navajo7.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Navajo/navajo8.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Navajo/navajo9.jpg

Agrippa
03-21-2010, 02:34 PM
Quite interesting selection, which proves to me once again, that there are at least three important tendencies discernible in North American Indianids:
- archemorph, primitive base, somewhat Australiform.
- basic Mongoloid, usually medium progressive, comparable to Eastsibirid in a way
- Europiform, probably even Europoid element, highly progressive

Some look too Europid in a typically European way though, they seem to be mixed, mainly in the Cherokee sample. Anything known?

Pallantides
03-21-2010, 03:56 PM
Quite interesting selection, which proves to me once again, that there are at least three important tendencies discernible in North American Indianids:
- archemorph, primitive base, somewhat Australiform.
- basic Mongoloid, usually medium progressive, comparable to Eastsibirid in a way
- Europiform, probably even Europoid element, highly progressive

Some look too Europid in a typically European way though, they seem to be mixed, mainly in the Cherokee sample. Anything known?

The Cherokee are heavily mixed, I believe some of them are even more European than Amerindian.

William Penn Adair looks fully European in my opinion.
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee3.jpg
http://www.redeaglejw.net/oldchahtaorg/Image12.gif

Colonel William Penn Adair was the son of George Washington Adair and Martha "Patsy" Martin. Martha Martin was the daughter of Judge John Martin and a sister of Annie Martin-Thompson, wife of Benjamin Franklin Thompson. George Washington Adair was the son of Walter "Black Watt" Adair and Rachel Thompson the sister of Benjamin Franklin Thompson and second cousins of Henry Butt Thompson. William Adair rose to prominence during the Civil War as one of the primary officers of the Cherokee Mounted Rifles under Confederate General Stand Watie. After the death of Watie in 1871, Adair took over as the primary leader of the Texas Cherokees and Associate Bands, including the Mount Tabor Community along with Clement Neely Vann the son of David Vann. In 1871, Adair and Vann began a serious of lawsuits aimed at getting the 1.5 million acres guaranteed to the Cherokees and Choctaws by the Treaty of 1836 with the Republic of Texas. These suits eventually went before the United States Supreme Court in 1920, and the Indian Claims Commission in 1948. The State of Texas offered 15 million acres of Texas panhandle land to settle the suit, but Adair declined as his eyes were always on the Texas Cherokee lands in the Piney Woods. William Penn Adair died in Washington, D.C. on October 21, 1880 and was buried at Arlington National Cemetery.

Electronic God-Man
03-21-2010, 04:07 PM
Yeah, I was going to say that the Cherokee shown are clearly mixed.

Pallantides
03-21-2010, 04:18 PM
They are from the 'upper strata' of the Cherokee Nation, mainly chiefs and their family members, I have read that there were many Native American chieftains who were mixed breeds, like Osceola of the Seminole.


Here are some Cherokee who look predominantly Amerindian:
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1756/gn01041.jpg

Pallantides
05-29-2012, 12:35 AM
http://i.imgur.com/mlhUH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZVBkM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GvWX1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hwpQM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6H65C.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FC5dh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EC6RG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pa8dp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Bqp5m.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Zm8z1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wZ7LN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/891bK.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lE5gf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FzlZf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MjDX8.jpg

Pallantides
05-29-2012, 01:09 AM
http://i.imgur.com/HUbzN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1NNcf.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MFPcr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iyfVz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/W0SIw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cw5DO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/puQpT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eKHon.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IKJDY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Qkn8I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vgNZ3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tZHtv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LxtNU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GNvRn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7IY5M.jpg

Pallantides
05-29-2012, 01:45 AM
http://i.imgur.com/XVHwa.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/as13q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EwHWS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QKh1E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DvxWd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/b8IAk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YSUml.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/CKi5s.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pFRIl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FViHS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jJwew.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jofM3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/AVPz7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/aE3bq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/w8ZBx.jpg

Pallantides
06-01-2012, 01:48 AM
http://i.imgur.com/DrtlI.jpg

Supreme American
06-01-2012, 01:59 AM
The Cherokee are heavily mixed, I believe some of them are even more European than Amerindian.

William Penn Adair looks fully European in my opinion.
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee3.jpg
http://www.redeaglejw.net/oldchahtaorg/Image12.gif

A ton of "Indians" here in the US (and probably Canada) are only Indians if you go by the one drop rule. Lots of these people are as white as a KKK rally and they try to come off as Injins. It's quite comical.

Cherokee tribal chief (http://www.cherokee.org/OurGovernment/Executive/PrincipalChiefsOffice/24811/Information.aspx)

Xenomorph
06-01-2012, 02:13 AM
I love Native American culture, but holy fuck that is alot of pictures!

Pallantides
08-01-2012, 10:07 PM
http://i.imgur.com/33cQd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HpBUk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Dbs58.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fkhgR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MYQud.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7fsQT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JzWQe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1H4Y3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/X9gov.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/P1zlI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Lacxm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DQKTo.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/V7Q6O.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IR6oz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0hzJM.jpg

Sikeliot
08-01-2012, 10:16 PM
White Americans pretending to be Native American and discussing very small amounts of the Amerindian they think they have are likely only doing it to scam off the government.

Dalton Fury
08-01-2012, 10:29 PM
White Americans pretending to be Native American and discussing very small amounts of the Amerindian they think they have are likely only doing it to scam off the government.

My cousin goes around telling everybody about his very minor native American admixture, he's 1/32 Cherokee. He even has a tattoo of an indian on his shoulder/bicep. He is the biggest redneck I know :picard2:

Sikeliot
08-01-2012, 10:32 PM
My cousin goes around telling everybody about his very minor native American admixture, he's 1/32 Cherokee. He even has a tattoo of an indian on his shoulder/bicep. He is the biggest redneck I know :picard2:

:rolleyes: The average Mexican American is more indigenous to this continent than most "Native Americans" in the US. Seriously.

PeacefulCaribbeanDutch
08-01-2012, 10:44 PM
noble people, the north american plains Indians

PeacefulCaribbeanDutch
08-01-2012, 10:45 PM
:rolleyes: The average Mexican American is more indigenous to this continent than most "Native Americans" in the US. Seriously.

this is true, but americans accept a Hindu India more easily than a Mexican haha

Stefan
08-01-2012, 10:46 PM
What the Cherokee look like today.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/375746_211411318984654_72332834_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/556414_211411298984656_487941082_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/320411_211411308984655_1696636692_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/532752_187627158029737_852269699_n.jpg

Sikeliot
08-01-2012, 10:47 PM
Please. Those aren't Native Americans any more than I am an African American. If they can check "Native American" on forms and get tax cuts and benefits, surely I can claim my African roots and check African American, no?

PeacefulCaribbeanDutch
08-01-2012, 10:49 PM
thats why real native american tribes require DNA tests

Pallantides
08-01-2012, 10:53 PM
What the Cherokee look like today.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/375746_211411318984654_72332834_n.jpg

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/556414_211411298984656_487941082_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s720x720/320411_211411308984655_1696636692_n.jpg

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/s720x720/532752_187627158029737_852269699_n.jpg

Well there were some Cherokee like that back in the day as well:
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee2.jpg(supposedly the one out of these three who had most European ancestry)

Sikeliot
08-01-2012, 10:55 PM
Well, self identification aside, if you are mostly white and look white and you say things like "Those damn white people stole our land!" I am going to laugh at you and look at you like you have two heads.

Apina
08-01-2012, 10:57 PM
White Americans pretending to be Native American and discussing very small amounts of the Amerindian they think they have are likely only doing it to scam off the government.
I always assumed they did it to appear more 'exotic' and elusive etc etc cough Megan Fox, Angelina Jolie - it's an epidemic in Hollywood.

Pallantides
08-01-2012, 11:01 PM
Please. Those aren't Native Americans any more than I am an African American. If they can check "Native American" on forms and get tax cuts and benefits, surely I can claim my African roots and check African American, no?

I'm 1.02% Arctic and 0.71% Mesoamerican according to DNAtribes, I should get some type of benefit as well if I ever visit the states:D


Don't this guy look a bit like me?:p
http://i.imgur.com/33cQd.jpg

Dalton Fury
08-01-2012, 11:07 PM
Well, self identification aside, if you are mostly white and look white and you say things like "Those damn white people stole our land!" I am going to laugh at you and look at you like you have two heads.

My cousin has actually said that before :laugh2:

Hong Key
08-01-2012, 11:49 PM
There were people going to and fro in N./S. America for millenniums. How much DNA did they leave behind? I don’t know, maybe some of you actually do?

The theory (Solutrean Hypothesis) that European people were the first on the continent (20,000 years ago) is actually gaining main stream acceptance. All kinds of interesting stuff from Conquistadors writing about White tribes in S. America to Leif Erikson. So while the honky trying to make a buck by impostoring an Injun has a lot of weight to it, the fact still remains that Whites and other groups were coming and going to the Americas from very early ancient time , so it’s not to much of a stretch to think that they left some or even a lot of blood behind.

From a main stream site.
Mastodon State Historic Site is link to prehistory in Missouri
"the first Americans actually arrived by boat from Europe 20,000-22,000 years ago”
https://www.stlbeacon.org/#!/content/25715/kimmswick_site_of_ice_age_mastodon


Articles below are from The Barnes Review: a revisionist site
http://www.barnesreview.org/

Rediscovering the Forgotten White Ancestors of Many American Indians
http://barnesreview.org/pdf/TBR2001-no5-4-8.pdf

Kensington Rune Stone Decoded: Vikings, Templars & Goths in America in 1362?
http://barnesreview.org/pdf/TBR2010-no1-5-12.pdf

Lábaru
08-01-2012, 11:54 PM
Don't this guy look a bit like me?:p
http://i.imgur.com/33cQd.jpg

some of these Indians are like you, but you are more gracile in your features and of course pale. I remember your thread with the face of a Scandinavian Cro-Magnon was like an North American Indian, could be that they are distantly related?

PeacefulCaribbeanDutch
08-01-2012, 11:54 PM
There were people going to and fro in N./S. America for millenniums. How much DNA did they leave behind? I don’t know, maybe some of you actually do?

The theory (Solutrean Hypothesis) that European people were the first on the continent (20,000 years ago) is actually gaining main stream acceptance. All kinds of interesting stuff from Conquistadors writing about White tribes in S. America to Leif Erikson. So while the honky trying to make a buck by impostoring an Injun has a lot of weight to it, the fact still remains that Whites and other groups were coming and going to the Americas from very early ancient time , so it’s not to much of a stretch to think that they left some or even a lot of blood behind.

From a main stream site.
Mastodon State Historic Site is link to prehistory in Missouri
"the first Americans actually arrived by boat from Europe 20,000-22,000 years ago”
https://www.stlbeacon.org/#!/content/25715/kimmswick_site_of_ice_age_mastodon


Articles below are from The Barnes Review: a revisionist site
http://www.barnesreview.org/

Rediscovering the Forgotten White Ancestors of Many American Indians
http://barnesreview.org/pdf/TBR2001-no5-4-8.pdf

Kensington Rune Stone Decoded: Vikings, Templars & Goths in America in 1362?
http://barnesreview.org/pdf/TBR2010-no1-5-12.pdf

I was discussing this topic here http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55133&page=2

they found a spanish axe in north canada dated before the new world was discovered!

The Exiled King
08-02-2012, 12:02 AM
I actually do have a very small amount of Native American ancestry. I don't really look it but my Grandfather looks a lot like a chieftain from the 1700s from the same tribe he has ancestry from.

The Exiled King
08-02-2012, 12:04 AM
I'm 1.02% Arctic and 0.71% Mesoamerican according to DNAtribes, I should get some type of benefit as well if I ever visit the states:D


Hahaha. I actually match Aleuts from Alaska in their new geographical ancestry analysis and they are pretty high ranking in the global similarity feature. I'm wondering if it has finally picked up my distant Native American ancestry?

Hong Key
08-02-2012, 12:16 AM
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Balmung
08-02-2012, 12:23 AM
I never got the infatuation with wanting Native ancestry myself. It was Anglos who established and created everything great about this country. Anglos achieved more than any other single group in North America. More whites should be proud of that to be honest. The English have a much greater legacy than that of "Native" Americans. A real shame, many Americans don't recognize that.

Pallantides
08-02-2012, 12:26 AM
some of these Indians are like you, but you are more gracile in your features and of course pale. I remember your thread with the face of a Scandinavian Cro-Magnon was like an North American Indian, could be that they are distantly related?

You mean this Cro-Magnon?
http://media-3.web.britannica.com/eb-media/97/44397-004-D45BC527.jpg

I think he was found in France.

Here is a reconstruction of one of the oldest humans found in Scandinavia(in Skåne, South Sweden):
http://i.imgur.com/GYwwt.jpg

Similar type of features.

Contra Mundum
08-02-2012, 12:30 AM
I never got the infatuation with wanting Native ancestry myself. It was Anglos who established and created everything great about this country. Anglos achieved more than any other single group in North America. More whites should be proud of that to be honest. The English have a much greater legacy than that of "Native" Americans. A real shame, many Americans don't recognize that.

Many white Americans want to believe they have Amerindian ancestry. I thought I did as well until 23andme confirmed I was 99.98% European. The report stated I have no Amerindian ancestry.

The 0.02 was East Asian. Not sure how that got in there.

Pallantides
08-02-2012, 12:34 AM
The 0.02 was East Asian. Not sure how that got in there.

Some North Europeans score a little East Asian on 23andMe. So it don't necessarily have to be Native American. Also some North Europeans can score from 1-4% Native American on various genetic calculators as well.

Why I dunno, could have something to do with Y-DNA Q:
http://www.disnorge.no/cms/system/files/offentlige_filer/Y-Haplogroup_Q_(Y-DNA).PNG
http://www.disnorge.no/cms/system/files/offentlige_filer/Haplogroup-Q%20Eupedia.gif

Siberian Cold Breeze
08-02-2012, 12:36 AM
Pallantides: Thank you very much for collection.It's not easy to find them .I already made a folder now collecting pitures also listened to musics .Awesome thread, beautiful people .

Hong Key
08-02-2012, 01:47 AM
Many white Americans want to believe they have Amerindian ancestry. I thought I did as well until 23andme confirmed I was 99.98% European. The report stated I have no Amerindian ancestry.

The 0.02 was East Asian. Not sure how that got in there.

As a kid there was family stories of Chickasaw and even Pocahontas in are family tree and I thought that was cool. Sure hope it’s not true. No evidence as far as I know. Will need to do 23andme one day. Just my luck I’ll be 13% negro, 18% Injun, 36% from Attlia the Hun and 42% jew or something.

Siberyak
08-02-2012, 01:52 AM
As a kid there was family stories of Chickasaw and even Pocahontas in are family tree and I thought that was cool. Sure hope it’s not true. No evidence as far as I know. Will need to do 23andme one day. Just my luck I’ll be 13% negro, 18% Injun, 36% from Attlia the Hun and 42% jew or something.

there appearance varies. the natives that i have seen are very red skinned and navajo tend to have chinky eyes.

The Exiled King
08-02-2012, 02:20 AM
Some North Europeans score a little East Asian on 23andMe. So it don't necessarily have to be Native American. Also some North Europeans can score from 1-4% Native American on various genetic calculators as well.

Why I dunno, could have something to do with Y-DNA Q:


I score 0.08% East Asian according to Dr. McDonald's results and 0.10% Northeast Asian in Dodecad V3.

On a side note I thought I'd tell you that apparently a branch of R1 is pretty much strictly Native American along with Haplogroup Q and C3. It is Haplogroup R1* (M137). Of course some of it is from Europeans being predominently R1b but some of it is just R1* (M137) which is also found in some specific populations of Central/Southern Siberia.

Pallantides
08-02-2012, 07:36 PM
Well there were some Cherokee like that back in the day as well:
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee4.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee3.jpg
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac316/Pallantides/Cherokee/cherokee2.jpg(supposedly the one out of these three who had most European ancestry)

Another one.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2b/Nimrodsmith.jpg


Jarrett Smith was a radical anti-assimilationist, fighting against acculturation into the white American society

Pallantides
08-03-2012, 02:07 AM
http://i.imgur.com/qkJ5q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wPJDu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RHNyM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9WGKN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/x03vJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TvIDR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jF2H0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZXHk9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6oJWw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mClsz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cf7Uu.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tTKLD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tOYp3.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/A5WAZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YkBbl.jpg

Pallantides
08-05-2012, 12:18 AM
http://i.imgur.com/oeAEG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sdpgb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/6cDjQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/GbmfS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UpMA8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/a1nuj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gycmI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/R69R5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/go0Pd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gnKpA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RAGsw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LCYzV.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HjTMT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cJ6Kj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EhJrb.jpg

Heron
08-05-2012, 07:08 AM
I have a very small percentage of Amerindian. My great great great great grandmother was a Cherokee. I do not have a photo of her, but here is one of her daughter (my 3rd great grandmother). http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq172/chillagirl_album/31641166_128840326024.jpg To me, she does not look too different than a Caucasian older lady.

Now here are two photos of me: http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq172/chillagirl_album/profileview.jpg

http://i445.photobucket.com/albums/qq172/chillagirl_album/097.jpg

I feel that I look a lot more "Native American" than my 3rd great grandmother did. I have interior epicanthic folds, whereas she did not. How can that be since I am less than 1%?

Genes are funny things...I think the "one drop rule" is not very accurate in terms of explaining how genes really work. It's not really about dilution of the genes; it's more about which genes happened to express themselves outwardly in what generation.

In regards to "you stole our land," I would still say that saying is pretty ridiculous. We are all one people in the US. What mattered to our ancestors may or may not matter to us now. Times have changed, people and cultures have mingled, and supposedly we all have the same rights. Racism and stereotyping may prevent us from the American dream and buying our own land, but the bad economy makes land ownership difficult also. If it's not one thing, it's another.

For me, there is no reason why a person cannot be proud of a heritage, imaginary or real.

Stefan
08-13-2012, 11:37 AM
A Documentary on the Nanticoke Indians. My city was named after them for some reason, even though they haven't got history here. lol

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LucvHvce
04-12-2014, 12:21 PM
I get no tax cuts, no university scholarships other than for my ACT scores, free land, or per cap payments. Those things depend on the tribe and the treaty they signed with the government. Some get great benefits and some get none.