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RoyBatty
03-21-2010, 09:59 AM
We are told by Schmiegel Spiegel that Germans are cringing. :D




Germans Cringe at Hitler's Popularity in Pakistan

By Hasnain Kazim in Islamabad, Pakistan

http://www.spiegel.de/images/image-66824-panoV9free-brsn.jpg


REUTERS
The swastika is a religious symbol of good luck.
Germans are popular in India and Pakistan, but not always for the right reasons. Many in South Asia have nothing but admiration for Adolf Hitler and still associate Germany with the Third Reich. Everyday encounters with the love of all things Nazi makes German visitors cringe.

Pakistan is the opposite of Germany. The mountains are in the north, the sea is in the south, the economic problems are in the west and the east is doing well. It's not hard for a German living in Pakistan to get used to these differences, but one contrast is hard to stomach: Most people like Hitler.

I was recently at the hairdresser, an elderly man who doesn't resort to electric clippers. All he has is creaky pair of scissors, a comb, an aerosol with water. He did a neat job but I wasn't entirely happy.
I said: "I look like Hitler."

He looked at me in the mirror, gave a satisfied smile and said: "Yes, yes, very nice."

I decided not to challenge him, went home and tried to get rid of the strict parting he'd given me.

Embarrassing Moments

I was glad I avoided the usual Hitler conversation. Pakistanis always hone in on that topic whenever they talk to Germans. "We're Aryans too," they say, because there was an Indo-Germanic race, the Aryas. Besides, Hitler was a military genius, they add.

Sometimes it's better to keep quiet about one's German origins. It's embarrassing because people here think they're doing you a favor by expressing their admiration for the Nazi leader. I suspect most Indians and Pakistanis have no idea what this man did. They see him as the bold Führer who took on the British and Americans.

In the Islamic world, not just in Pakistan but right across from Iran to northern Africa, anti-Semitic sentiment of course plays a role. Conversations with German visitors rapidly turn to the injustice being suffered by the Palestinians who were robbed of their land.

The Desire to be Swallowed up by the Ground

EDIT: WHAT'S SO EMBARRASSING ABOUT THIS? :confused: IT'S THE TRUTH.


One can try to cut such conversations short, like a German acquaintance of mine did recently. He told a taxi driver in Iran he should stop talking nonsense because he as a dark-skinned person wouldn't have survived long in Nazi Germany. The taxi driver looked at him surprised and said: "But I'm Aryan!"

The alternative is just to wish the ground would swallow you up, like when German friends visited us while we were staying with our Pakistani relatives in London. Out of the blue, one uncle started talking admiringly about Hitler, his supposed military feats and how he led Germany out of economic misery. Our friends just sat there stony-faced and didn't know what to say. Later on my parents apologized to them.

EDIT: AGAIN, "UNCLE'S" DESCRIPTION OF HITLER WASN'T INACCURATE. WHAT'S THE PROBLEM TO DISCUSS THIS? WHY, ACCORDING TO THE ZIONIST MEDIA (SPIEGEL) IS IT SUCH A THOUGHT CRIME?

I don't know where this fascination comes from, not just for the Nazis but for all things German. Most people don't realize that today's Germany is very different from the Third Reich. It's not surprising. Many have never even been to the next big city in their own country, so how should they know what things are like in Germany these days?

As a result, many Pakistanis easily switch from Hitler to Mercedes ("Very excellent car, but a little too expensive"). A few days ago a white Mercedes built in the 1970s was driving ahead of me in the center of Islamabad carrying a family of seven. On the back was a sticker bearing a black swastika in a white circle. Underneath it read: "I like Nazi."

It's not just Muslims who maintain this Nazi cult. A few years ago, a Hindu businessman in India opened a restaurant called "Hitler's Cross," complete with a portrait of the Führer at the entrance. Another Hindu sold bed linen emblazoned with swastikas that had little to do with the Hindu swastika symbol for good luck. The sheets, pillow cases and bed spreads were advertised as being part of "The Nazi Collection." English editions of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" can be found in bookshops even in the most remote parts of India. And Indian schoolbooks have been known to celebrate Hitler as a great leader.

Once my wife and I visited the cafe in the beautiful Hotel Imperial in New Delhi. It has a garden lined with palms, excellent tea and friendly waiters in uniforms that recall the colonial era. A young man served us. The name tag on his uniform attracted my interest so I asked him why he had this rather unusual name for an Indian man. "Oh, my parents named me after a great historic person," he explained.

The name, in black letters on a golden plate, read: Adolf.

Absinthe
03-21-2010, 10:08 AM
He did a neat job but I wasn't entirely happy.
I said: "I look like Hitler."

He looked at me in the mirror, gave a satisfied smile and said: "Yes, yes, very nice."

:lol00002: :lol00002: :lol00002:

Wish I was a director so I could make a movie out of this :laugh:

Arrow Cross
03-21-2010, 10:56 AM
One can try to cut such conversations short, like a German acquaintance of mine did recently. He told a taxi driver in Iran he should stop talking nonsense because he as a dark-skinned person wouldn't have survived long in Nazi Germany.
It's no surprise these repulsive, indoctrinated lemmings are unaware of their own recent history. Yet again, the palm goes to the uncorrupted peoples of the East.

Liffrea
03-21-2010, 12:59 PM
Originally Posted by Absinthe
Wish I was a director so I could make a movie out of this

I’ve thought of hiring my old man out for events, really minus the moustache (he has a goatee) he’s the spit of old Adolf………can’t personally imagine there is much call for a Hitler kiss-a-gram in England or an Adolf in a birthday cake at a party….but you never know.

I used to dread it as a child….you vill take ze shower!:D

poiuytrewq0987
03-21-2010, 01:07 PM
:D

http://www.st23.com/img/h1.jpg

Svanhild
03-21-2010, 01:17 PM
One the one hand I feel flattered for their admiration of Germany and German technology, on the other hand I feel sorry for their unilateral knowledge. Hitler wasn't a saint. Rather the opposite in many cases. Truth be told, Pakistanis are both Muslims and Non-Europeans thus they should stay where they are.



http://www.st23.com/img/h1.jpg

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9085/adid.jpg
One of the two is a wax figure...:wink

Wulfhere
03-21-2010, 01:24 PM
Why this should be a surprise is beyond me. Nazism and Islam are very similar to each other - both are violently militaristic, both emphasise the inferiority of outsiders, and both are anti-Jewish. And it's no secret that members of both admired the other.

Pallantides
03-21-2010, 01:32 PM
The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France. :laugh:


http://www.srpska-mreza.com/bookstore/handschar/handschar.jpg
http://serbianna.com/blogs/savich/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/bosnian20islamic20ss.jpg

Svanhild
03-21-2010, 02:16 PM
:laugh:

What about Norwegian SS? You're rather forgetful. :wink

http://warrelics.eu/forum/military_photos/ss-uniforms-insignia/18844d1226741179t-ss-propaganda-picture-nordmenn-9.jpg

http://www.germaniainternational.com/images/norpost02.jpg

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters/norske.jpg

http://www.waffen-ss.no/gssn-mann.jpg
http://www.waffen-ss.no/germanssnorge.jpg

http://www.fallingbostelmilitarymuseum.de/thenandnow/then/Fally.gif
http://www.nuav.net/NorwoffSS.jpg
http://www.waffen-ss.no/Norgess1.jpg
http://www.frontkjemper.com/index_files/image4451.jpg

poiuytrewq0987
03-21-2010, 02:37 PM
Why this should be a surprise is beyond me. Nazism and Islam are very similar to each other - both are violently militaristic, both emphasise the inferiority of outsiders, and both are anti-Jewish. And it's no secret that members of both admired the other.

You're an idiot. Hitler used its military capabilities only to regain the lost German territories. It's Churchill who is violent, not the Germans. He practically guaranteed WW2 by placing a guarantee on Poland's sovereignty. Poland was going to give up Danzig until Churchill promised (and an empty promise that was) to aid Poland if it went to war with Germany. The Brits, or the head honchos of the UK anyhow wanted war, not Hitler.

Arrow Cross
03-21-2010, 02:48 PM
Why this should be a surprise is beyond me. Nazism and Islam are very similar to each other - both are violently militaristic, both emphasise the inferiority of outsiders, and both are anti-Jewish. And it's no secret that members of both admired the other.

THREE RINGS FOR THE ELVEN KINGS
Promoting the work of J.R.R. Tolkien as a spiritual path.
Oh yes, right! Great idea! Why don't we start mimicing some fantasy creatures instead and go on a species-mixing spree like the good hippies these Tolkien "Elves" were?

I salute your progressivity, good sir.

Cato
03-21-2010, 03:02 PM
Hitler: Loser.
Pakistanis: Losers.

Sounds like a winning match to me.

Pallantides
03-21-2010, 03:50 PM
What about Norwegian SS? You're rather forgetful. :wink



No I'm not...
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showpost.php?p=172390&postcount=34

Norwegians in the Waffen SS
http://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/balstad-johan-petter.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/bakken-inge-martin.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/brynestad-kaare.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/borresen-per.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/borresen-richard.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/hegg-john-frithjof.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/hoel-egil.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/jensen-fredrik.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/kahrs-sophus.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/kjolner-per.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/lande-nils.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/larsen-sverre-e-h.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/lie-jonas.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/laerum-erik.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/meidell-per.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/myhrvold-gosta.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/nilsen-arne-w.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/quist.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/schneider-jan.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/steen-axel.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/sveen-bjarne.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/saether-paul.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/sodahl-harald.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/sogaard-lage.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/thunestvedt-olav.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/tollefsen-helge.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/tuft-olav.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/aas-sigurd.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/aasen-rolf.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/andersen-gunnar.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/baardseth-knut.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/bakke-sverre.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/bakken-knut-trygve.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/bakas-johannes.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/bay-hermann.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/berg-ingolf.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/berg-magne.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/bjornstad-ornulf.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/borgir-arne.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/braseth-john.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/brenna-steinar.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/bryhn-halfdan.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/christiansen-odd-b.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/dyrendal-arnulf.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/edvardsen-john.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/eide-olav.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/eliassen-johan.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/erlandsen-erwin.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/fagernes-kristian-o.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/fure-rudolf.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/furuseth-birger.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/gilde-carl.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/gottenborg-brynjulf.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/gundersen-johan.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/hansen-ottar-m.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/hedlund-olaf.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/henriksen-dagfinn.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/imerslund-per.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/ingier-august.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/jensen-trygve.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/jonassen-gust.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/jondal-oddvar.gifhttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/knudsen-hans-christian.jpghttp://www.frontkjemper.info/images/personer/aagaard-ostvig-karl.jpg


Anyone intrested in reading about the Norwegians that served in Waffen SS during WW2 should visit this link: http://www.frontkjemper.info

Do you really compare Norwegians to Bosnians and other Muslim SS volunteers?:rolleyes:

Wulfhere
03-21-2010, 04:06 PM
You're an idiot. Hitler used its military capabilities only to regain the lost German territories. It's Churchill who is violent, not the Germans. He practically guaranteed WW2 by placing a guarantee on Poland's sovereignty. Poland was going to give up Danzig until Churchill promised (and an empty promise that was) to aid Poland if it went to war with Germany. The Brits, or the head honchos of the UK anyhow wanted war, not Hitler.

How could Poland have given up Danzig when it wasn't even part of Poland? It was under a League of Nations mandate. Poland, however, would have been very unlikely to want to give up the territory to the west of Danzig, which was its only route to the sea.

Wulfhere
03-21-2010, 04:07 PM
Oh yes, right! Great idea! Why don't we start mimicing some fantasy creatures instead and go on a species-mixing spree like the good hippies these Tolkien "Elves" were?

I salute your progressivity, good sir.

Nothing you've just said in any way proves I was wrong.

Svanhild
03-21-2010, 08:06 PM
Do you really compare Norwegians to Bosnians and other Muslim SS volunteers?:rolleyes:
No. But why do you compare Norwegian and other European volunteers with Muslim volunteers who only fought in North Africa?

Pallantides
03-21-2010, 08:08 PM
No. But why do you compare Norwegian and other European volunteers with Muslim volunteers who only fought in North Africa?

I didn't compare European volunteers with Muslim volunteers...
btw SS Handschar fought in the Balkans against Partisans.

Óttar
03-21-2010, 08:22 PM
One day while riding in an auto-rickshaw, my former teacher read a sign in Devanagari script outside a shrine in India where it said Hitler mandir, "Hitler temple."

When I go back, I gotta find that place.

:D

They take full advantage of their cultural swastika priveleges in India. It's a religious symbol, but many times in an Indian phone book you'll see a downright Nazi Blutfahne. :p