Post your new oracle Eurogenes K13/K15 results

[Siberia62]

Has anyone noticed that oracle and oracle-4 on Eurogenes tests had been disabled for a while until the last couple of days? Also, it appears that oracle-X type 1 and type 2 are still not working.

For K13, these results are still the same, same with EUtest V2 K15:

North_Atlantic 41.09%
Baltic 19.09%
West_Med 14.12%
West_Asian 8.48%
East_Med 12.25%
Red_Sea 2.06%
South_Asian 0.85%
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.58%
Amerindian 0.16%
Oceanian 0.65%
Northeast_African 0.45%
Sub-Saharan 0.21%

K15:

Population
North_Sea 29.74%
Atlantic 23.41%
Baltic 9.61%
Eastern_Euro 7.43%
West_Med 9.94%
West_Asian 6.45%
East_Med 9.30%
Red_Sea 2.18%
South_Asian 0.62%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.17%
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.56%
Northeast_African 0.48%
Sub-Saharan 0.09%

(Bear in mind I have suspected 1/8 - 1/4 AJ/Mid-East ancestry)

K13: (distances + 1st and 2nd population estimates have changed)

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 5.09
2 French 6.35
3 South_Dutch 6.49
4 Austrian 10.8
5 Southeast_English 11.58
6 North_German 11.98
7 Spanish_Cataluna 13.13
8 Southwest_English 13.2
9 East_German 13.27
10 Danish 13.42

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.6% Southeast_English + 20.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 0.9
2 76.4% Orcadian + 23.6% Cyprian @ 1.12
3 81.5% Southeast_English + 18.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.34
4 79.2% Southeast_English + 20.8% Cyprian @ 1.41
5 78.9% Orcadian + 21.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.45
6 79.8% Southeast_English + 20.2% Syrian @ 1.45

When I see 6th result I stand up and salute to the mighty Bashar Al-Assad to the tune of this anthem -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgddOqfB53U#t=0m15s :D

K15: (distances + 1st and 2nd population estimates have changed)

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 5.12
2 South_Dutch 5.74
3 French 6.51
4 North_German 9.17
5 Southwest_English 9.69
6 Southeast_English 9.99
7 Danish 10.93
8 North_Dutch 11.04
9 East_German 11.05
10 Irish 11.66

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.5% North_Dutch + 25.5% Italian_Jewish @ 1.09
2 72.8% North_Dutch + 27.2% South_Italian @ 1.22
3 71% North_Dutch + 29% East_Sicilian @ 1.24
4 75.6% North_Dutch + 24.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.29
5 68.3% North_Dutch + 31.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.29

[Jackson]

Thanks for sharing your results.

If you don't mind me asking, what is your ancestry more exactly, like how Italian/British are you?

[Siberia62]

Thanks for sharing your results.

If you don't mind me asking, what is your ancestry more exactly, like how Italian/British are you?

Np, well at first I thought I was 1/16 Italian but after more in depth genealogy realised I was only 1/32 Italian. However my Eurogenes K36 test shows 13% Italian which is substantial. The rest is English mostly but DNA testing suggests I may be in the range of 1/8 to 1/4 AJ from an unknown source. Waiting to get tested with a different comp or get a parent/grandparent tested one day.

What is apparent, is that my English looks largely Germanic which makes sense considering my ancestors family history. Though my Y-DNA is indicative of more ancient Briton (Celtic) rather than Saxon or Dane.

[Jackson]

Np, well at first I thought I was 1/16 Italian but after more in depth genealogy realised I was only 1/32 Italian. However my Eurogenes K36 test shows 13% Italian which is substantial. The rest is English mostly but DNA testing suggests I may be in the range of 1/8 to 1/4 AJ from an unknown source. Waiting to get tested with a different comp or get a parent/grandparent tested one day.

What is apparent, is that my English looks largely Germanic which makes sense considering my ancestors family history. Though my Y-DNA is indicative of more ancient Briton (Celtic) rather than Saxon or Dane.

Interesting :) Cheers for the info.

I was wondering because you have elevated East Med and Red Sea in a similar ratio to myself (Although i seem to get each from a different side of the family which is odd). Although yours is more pronounced, so i think i may be more recent than mine, if i do have Italian/Italian-esque ancestry.

[Longbowman]

Quite accurate.

Full Ashkenazi friend of mine:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 33.86
2 West_Med 19.07
3 North_Atlantic 16.58
4 West_Asian 11.33
5 Baltic 9.88
6 Red_Sea 4.7
7 East_Asian 1.35
8 Sub-Saharan 1.17
9 Northeast_African 0.73
10 South_Asian 0.55
11 Siberian 0.53
12 Amerindian 0.25

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 2.44
2 East_Sicilian 5.08
3 Central_Greek 6.12
4 South_Italian 6.28
5 West_Sicilian 7.23
6 Italian_Jewish 8.3
7 Italian_Abruzzo 8.38
8 Algerian_Jewish 8.72
9 Sephardic_Jewish 8.86
10 Greek_Thessaly 9.86
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.17
12 Libyan_Jewish 12.97
13 Tuscan 13.21
14 Cyprian 15.51
15 Bulgarian 18.07
16 Lebanese_Muslim 18.84
17 North_Italian 19.52
18 Syrian 19.96
19 Romanian 20.2
20 Turkish 21.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.6% Ashkenazi + 17.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.72
2 81.3% Ashkenazi + 18.7% West_Sicilian @ 1.84
3 79.1% Ashkenazi + 20.9% Central_Greek @ 1.89
4 80.1% Ashkenazi + 19.9% South_Italian @ 1.94
5 90.2% Ashkenazi + 9.8% Tuscan @ 1.98
6 93.4% Ashkenazi + 6.6% North_Italian @ 2.01
7 97.1% Ashkenazi + 2.9% French_Basque @ 2.04
8 95.5% Ashkenazi + 4.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.04
9 77.8% Ashkenazi + 22.2% East_Sicilian @ 2.05
10 95.8% Ashkenazi + 4.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.06
11 95.7% Ashkenazi + 4.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.07
12 96% Ashkenazi + 4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.09
13 96.3% Ashkenazi + 3.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.09
14 95.8% Ashkenazi + 4.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.1
15 96.3% Ashkenazi + 3.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.1
16 96.5% Ashkenazi + 3.5% Southwest_French @ 2.1
17 95.7% Ashkenazi + 4.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.11
18 96.1% Ashkenazi + 3.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.13
19 95.9% Ashkenazi + 4.1% Portuguese @ 2.14
20 96.4% Ashkenazi + 3.6% French @ 2.15

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 2.610945
2 East_Sicilian @ 5.705356
3 Central_Greek @ 6.924315
4 South_Italian @ 7.053665
5 West_Sicilian @ 8.242654
6 Italian_Jewish @ 9.286154
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.633507
8 Algerian_Jewish @ 9.741492
9 Sephardic_Jewish @ 9.900821
10 Greek_Thessaly @ 11.284964
11 Tunisian_Jewish @ 13.537134
12 Libyan_Jewish @ 14.223114
13 Tuscan @ 15.187689
14 Cyprian @ 17.813707
15 Bulgarian @ 20.697134
16 Lebanese_Muslim @ 21.471029
17 North_Italian @ 22.515581
18 Syrian @ 22.526480
19 Tunisian @ 23.186579
20 Romanian @ 23.190868

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Ashkenazi @ 2.610945


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +25% Ashkenazi +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.910573


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.910573
2 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek @ 1.913929
3 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish @ 1.967614
4 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + West_Sicilian @ 1.999756
5 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + South_Italian @ 2.005938
6 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish @ 2.073730
7 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + East_Sicilian @ 2.100740
8 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Greek_Thessaly + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.201965
9 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.302085
10 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish @ 2.323816
11 Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.426886
12 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Greek_Thessaly @ 2.464979
13 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Bulgarian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.553343
14 Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + Italian_Jewish + Romanian @ 2.577312
15 Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + Romanian + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.606865
16 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi @ 2.610945
17 Algerian_Jewish + Ashkenazi + Italian_Jewish + Romanian @ 2.673349
18 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Greek_Thessaly + Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.682935
19 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 2.704805
20 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Central_Greek + Italian_Jewish @ 2.707635

[pacific rim 980]

Thanks for sharing your results.

If you don't mind me asking, what is your ancestry more exactly, like how Italian/British are you?

He's 25% Yiddish and 75% British. LOL at the unknown source.

[Sikeliot]

Quite accurate.

Full Ashkenazi friend of mine:

Basically Sicilian :lol:

[Longbowman]

Basically Sicilian :lol:

Yeah but the calculator called it brilliantly.

[Grace O'Malley]

There appears to be some changes to this calculator because before my top population was Irish which is correct and now it is North Dutch. Anyone else tried this and have a different result?

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.04
2 Baltic 25.27
3 West_Med 9.81
4 West_Asian 7.25
5 East_Med 1.77
6 Red_Sea 1.50
7 Amerindian 1.38


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Dutch @ 3.343981
2 Irish @ 3.397813
3 West_Scottish @ 4.026271
4 Norwegian @ 4.042346
5 Orcadian @ 4.244986
6 Danish @ 4.289660
7 North_German @ 6.192955
8 Southeast_English @ 6.842666
9 Southwest_English @ 6.901150
10 Swedish @ 7.318733
11 South_Dutch @ 11.629003
12 West_German @ 12.655422
13 North_Swedish @ 14.482445
14 Austrian @ 17.549162
15 East_German @ 17.693420
16 French @ 18.062477
17 Hungarian @ 22.544872
18 Southwest_Finnish @ 23.876503
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 26.292759
20 Southwest_French @ 27.316259

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 2.522953


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 2.522953


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.519424
2 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.522953
3 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.540311
4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.548502
5 Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.564251
6 North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.622005
7 North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.648387
8 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.664680
9 Irish + North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.680890
10 Danish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.683445
11 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.695799
12 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.721051
13 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.729033
14 Danish + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.747781
15 Irish + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.753577
16 Irish + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 2.764748
17 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.766720
18 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.767802
19 Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.767981
20 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 2.775764

Done.

[Siberia62]

He's 25% Yiddish and 75% British. LOL at the unknown source.

But this is the thing; It IS an unknown source. I have very extensive genealogical records on all sides of family so the result of my test was surprising, nevertheless interesting. More is to be discovered.

Do I care? No. It's a useful weapon against Zionists.

[Longbowman]

But this is the thing; It IS an unknown source. I have very extensive genealogical records on all sides of family so the result of my test was surprising, nevertheless interesting. More is to be discovered.

Do I care? No. It's a useful weapon against Zionists.

Sorry, what's a weapon against Zionists?

[Sikeliot]

Yeah but the calculator called it brilliantly.

Here is a cousin of mine for comparison, she is 100% Sicilian, from Palermo. She has more West Asian and Red Sea than the Jewish friend of yours, but less East Med.

K13:


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.05
2 North_Atlantic 22.25
3 West_Med 22.20
4 West_Asian 14.58
5 Red_Sea 6.68
6 Baltic 3.77
7 Northeast_African 1.32
8 Sub-Saharan 1.16


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Sicilian 5.25
2 Italian_Abruzzo 5.3
3 South_Italian 6.91
4 East_Sicilian 7.4
5 Central_Greek 8.17
6 Tuscan 9.37
7 Sephardic_Jewish 10.9
8 Ashkenazi 11.76
9 Italian_Jewish 11.97
10 Greek_Thessaly 12.33
11 Algerian_Jewish 12.63
12 North_Italian 15.19
13 Tunisian_Jewish 15.36
14 Libyan_Jewish 15.86
15 Cyprian 19.58
16 Bulgarian 20.04
17 Romanian 21.25
18 Spanish_Extremadura 21.6
19 Lebanese_Muslim 22
20 Turkish 22.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 36.5% French_Basque @ 1.61
2 50.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 49.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.93
3 55.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 44.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.05
4 52.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 47.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.4
5 56.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 43.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.7
6 55% Lebanese_Muslim + 45% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.84
7 50.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 49.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.96
8 51.9% Spanish_Aragon + 48.1% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.02
9 52% Lebanese_Muslim + 48% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.07
10 50.5% Spanish_Andalucia + 49.5% Syrian @ 3.07
11 50.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 49.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.14
12 54.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 45.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.21
13 56.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 43.1% Southwest_French @ 3.33
14 52.5% Cyprian + 47.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.37
15 57.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 42.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.41
16 55.7% Cyprian + 44.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.41
17 54.4% Syrian + 45.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.44
18 56.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 43.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.48
19 62.9% Syrian + 37.1% French_Basque @ 3.48
20 55% Spanish_Andalucia + 45% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.54







K15:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.24
2 Atlantic 19.4
3 West_Med 17.71
4 West_Asian 15.38
5 North_Sea 10.57
6 Red_Sea 7.34
7 Baltic 2.02
8 Northeast_African 1.59
9 Sub-Saharan 0.96
10 Oceanian 0.36
11 Eastern_Euro 0.25
12 South_Asian 0.18

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 5.57
2 West_Sicilian 6.17
3 East_Sicilian 7.24
4 South_Italian 8
5 Central_Greek 8.4
6 Tuscan 8.54
7 Ashkenazi 10.38
8 Italian_Jewish 10.74
9 Sephardic_Jewish 10.89
10 Greek 12.09
11 Algerian_Jewish 12.35
12 Greek_Thessaly 12.88
13 North_Italian 14.36
14 Tunisian_Jewish 15.18
15 Libyan_Jewish 17.64
16 Bulgarian 18.03
17 Cyprian 19.07
18 Romanian 19.54
19 Spanish_Extremadura 19.86
20 Spanish_Andalucia 20

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 49.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.57
2 56.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 43.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.68
3 52.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 47.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.72
4 58.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 41.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.77
5 51.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 48.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.83
6 54.2% Spanish_Aragon + 45.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.85
7 53.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 46.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.93
8 61% Lebanese_Muslim + 39% French_Basque @ 4.12
9 53.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 46.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.22
10 54.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 45.1% Assyrian @ 4.26
11 52.7% Spanish_Aragon + 47.3% Assyrian @ 4.27
12 57.4% Spanish_Andalucia + 42.6% Assyrian @ 4.27
13 50.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 49.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.39
14 52% Spanish_Extremadura + 48% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.39
15 50% Syrian + 50% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.42
16 52.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 47.4% Syrian @ 4.45
17 52.2% Syrian + 47.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.48
18 60.4% Syrian + 39.6% French_Basque @ 4.49
19 51.4% Spanish_Murcia + 48.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.53
20 59.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 40.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.54

[Siberia62]

Sorry, what's a weapon against Zionists?

Being 1/4 Jewish. Considering anything anti-Israel these days automatically draws the cries of "Anti-Semite!!!!"

And to the white liberals who become incensed when jewish influence is criticised.

[jtoml3]

Here are my K13 and K15 results. A question to all of you, my known ancestry is Croatian, Polish, Maori, English, Scottish and Irish. The Polish ancestry is maternal and paternal however I never seem to get it or something similar on the Oracles. Is it possible it's masked by something else or isn't that prominent? Can Baltic represent Polish as it seems quite high to not appear in an Oracle. The Eastern Euro on the K15 might separate it out better. The Oracle on the K13 is a bit of a mess to me. Any thoughts would be great :)

K13

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 42.57
2 Baltic 25.89
3 West_Med 13.16
4 East_Med 10.07
5 West_Asian 5.01
6 Oceanian 1.28
7 South_Asian 1.08
8 East_Asian 0.51
9 Red_Sea 0.33
10 Amerindian 0.06
11 Sub-Saharan 0.03


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 4.23
2 South_Dutch 5.46
3 Austrian 6.75
4 North_German 7.42
5 East_German 8.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.7% Southeast_English + 35.3% Serbian @ 2.61
2 88.6% West_German + 11.4% Belorussian @ 2.8

Using 2 populations approximation:

1 50% Hungarian +50% Southeast_English @ 3.493868


Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Danish +25% North_Swedish +25% Tuscan @ 2.837906


Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Danish + Southeast_English + Southwest_Finnish + Tuscan @ 2.725319
2 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Swedish + Tuscan @ 2.805912
3 Greek_Thessaly + North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.812797
4 Danish + Danish + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 2.837906
5 Danish + Greek_Thessaly + North_Swedish + Southeast_English @ 2.840524
6 North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southwest_Finnish + Tuscan @ 2.863221
7 Danish + North_German + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 2.865245
8 Greek_Thessaly + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Southeast_English @ 2.909717
9 North_German + North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 2.929839
10 Danish + Serbian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 2.946763
11 Bulgarian + North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.961788
12 Bulgarian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Swedish @ 2.962308
13 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_Finnish + Tuscan @ 2.963861
14 Greek_Thessaly + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.972533
15 Danish + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 2.975515
16 North_Dutch + North_German + North_Swedish + Tuscan @ 2.991624
17 Greek_Thessaly + Southeast_English + Swedish + Swedish @ 2.998175
18 Greek_Thessaly + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Southeast_English @ 2.998987
19 Hungarian + Southeast_English + West_German + West_German @ 3.011773
20 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Swedish + West_Sicilian @ 3.019982


K15

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 30.84
2 Atlantic 25.2
3 Baltic 11.65
4 Eastern_Euro 10.5
5 West_Med 9.41
6 East_Med 6.02
7 West_Asian 4.54
8 Oceanian 1.11
9 South_Asian 0.51
10 Red_Sea 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 3.7
2 West_German 5.05
3 North_German 5.48
4 Southwest_English 6.99
5 Southeast_English 6.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.2% Southeast_English + 31.8% Serbian @ 1.84
2 79.7% Danish + 20.3% Greek @ 1.99

Using 2 populations approximation:

1 50% Orcadian +50% Serbian @ 3.407986

Using 3 populations approximation:

1 50% Danish +25% Serbian +25% South_Dutch @ 1.958174

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 Danish + Serbian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English @ 1.741189
2 Danish + North_German + North_Italian + North_Swedish @ 1.765681
3 Danish + Serbian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.809648
4 Serbian + Southeast_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 1.884286
5 Danish + Serbian + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 1.911295
6 North_Dutch + Serbian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English @ 1.925140
7 Bulgarian + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 1.930150
8 Norwegian + Serbian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English @ 1.947945
9 Serbian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.948408
10 Irish + Serbian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.950084
11 Danish + Danish + Serbian + South_Dutch @ 1.958174
12 Danish + Orcadian + Serbian + South_Dutch @ 1.959374
13 Bulgarian + Danish + Danish + Southwest_English @ 1.965832
14 Bulgarian + Danish + Danish + Southeast_English @ 2.010356
15 Danish + Serbian + South_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 2.018274
16 Danish + Danish + French + Serbian @ 2.031318
17 Danish + Irish + Serbian + South_Dutch @ 2.034935
18 Danish + Serbian + West_German + West_Scottish @ 2.037306
19 Austrian + Danish + South_Dutch + West_German @ 2.040571
20 Danish + Irish + Serbian + West_German @ 2.040934

[Longbowman]

Being 1/4 Jewish. Considering anything anti-Israel these days automatically draws the cries of "Anti-Semite!!!!"

And to the white liberals who become incensed when jewish influence is criticised.

You're 1/4 Jewish? What branch, Ashkenazi?

[Longbowman]

Here are my K13 and K15 results. A question to all of you, my known ancestry is Croatian, Polish, Maori, English, Scottish and Irish. The Polish ancestry is maternal and paternal however I never seem to get it or something similar on the Oracles. Is it possible it's masked by something else or isn't that prominent? Can Baltic represent Polish as it seems quite high to not appear in an Oracle. The Eastern Euro on the K15 might separate it out better. The Oracle on the K13 is a bit of a mess to me. Any thoughts would be great :)

Cool results :)

You look about 2.5% Maori, which is negligible. Lots of Eastern Europeans will score similar East/North Asian, such as myself, but it won't throw the results very much. Would help to know what percentage of your ancestry pertains to each part (are you 1/4 Polish? 1/2? Etc).

[Siberia62]

You're 1/4 Jewish? What branch, Ashkenazi?

Not a clue. Probably more likely AJ. Want to get my parents tested but they're reluctant, although my maternal grandmother will do it.

[jtoml3]

Cool results :)

You look about 2.5% Maori, which is negligible. Lots of Eastern Europeans will score similar East/North Asian, such as myself, but it won't throw the results very much. Would help to know what percentage of your ancestry pertains to each part (are you 1/4 Polish? 1/2? Etc).

1/4 Croatian, 3/32 Polish, 1/32 Scottish, 1/64 Irish, 1/128 Maori and the other 60% or so would have to be the English. As New Zealand was mostly made up of migrants my ancestry is a bit all over the place. Croatian is probably regarded as the closest European heritage for me as my paternal grandmother was 100% Croatian.

My Origins on FTDNA gives me 6% Jewish out of curiosity.

[cally]

Eurogenes K13

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.5
2 West_Med 23.29
3 North_Atlantic 20.55
4 Baltic 16.35
5 West_Asian 10.51
6 Red_Sea 1.21
7 Oceanian 0.23
8 East_Asian 0.18
9 Siberian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.49
2 Central_Greek 8.63
3 West_Sicilian 8.82
4 Tuscan 9.04
5 Italian_Abruzzo 9.11
6 East_Sicilian 9.79
7 Bulgarian 10.66
8 Ashkenazi 11.44
9 South_Italian 11.84
10 Romanian 12.73
11 North_Italian 13.08
12 Serbian 16.67
13 Italian_Jewish 16.98
14 Algerian_Jewish 17.08
15 Sephardic_Jewish 17.83
16 Portuguese 21.42
17 Tunisian_Jewish 21.61
18 Spanish_Extremadura 21.69
19 Libyan_Jewish 22.11
20 Spanish_Andalucia 22.46

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% Sardinian @ 3.71
2 81.6% Greek_Thessaly + 18.4% Tuscan @ 4.1
3 87.7% Greek_Thessaly + 12.3% North_Italian @ 4.14
4 93.2% Greek_Thessaly + 6.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.19
5 93.5% Greek_Thessaly + 6.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.22
6 94.8% Greek_Thessaly + 5.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.24
7 96.5% Greek_Thessaly + 3.5% French_Basque @ 4.26
8 95.1% Greek_Thessaly + 4.9% Southwest_French @ 4.28
9 94.8% Greek_Thessaly + 5.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.29
10 94.6% Greek_Thessaly + 5.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.29

I like this oracle better than the previous one which gave me unrealistic 30% German and 70% Greek. This one gives me Western populations but based on my higher West med score.

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.71
2 West_Med 19.44
3 Atlantic 14.42
4 North_Sea 13.97
5 West_Asian 11.2
6 Baltic 9.2
7 Eastern_Euro 6.36
8 Red_Sea 1.71

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 4.74
2 Greek 5.69
3 Tuscan 7.32
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.65
5 Central_Greek 7.71
6 West_Sicilian 8.43
7 East_Sicilian 8.77
8 Ashkenazi 9.76
9 South_Italian 10.33
10 Bulgarian 10.73
11 North_Italian 11.83
12 Romanian 12.51
13 Italian_Jewish 14.32
14 Serbian 15.14
15 Algerian_Jewish 15.67
16 Sephardic_Jewish 15.96
17 Portuguese 19.01
18 Spanish_Extremadura 19.32
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.47
20 Spanish_Murcia 19.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.9% Greek_Thessaly + 32.1% Tuscan @ 3.68
2 73% Greek_Thessaly + 27% West_Sicilian @ 3.85
3 80.6% Greek_Thessaly + 19.4% North_Italian @ 3.9
4 92% Greek_Thessaly + 8% Sardinian @ 3.95
5 88.4% Greek_Thessaly + 11.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.99
6 89.1% Greek_Thessaly + 10.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.02
7 90.7% Greek_Thessaly + 9.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.08
8 93.3% Greek_Thessaly + 6.7% French_Basque @ 4.09
9 90.1% Greek_Thessaly + 9.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.1
10 89.2% Greek_Thessaly + 10.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.12
11 63.5% Greek_Thessaly + 36.5% Greek @ 4.19
12 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.21
13 74.8% Greek_Thessaly + 25.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.22
14 90.2% Greek_Thessaly + 9.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.23
15 91.8% Greek_Thessaly + 8.2% Southwest_French @ 4.23
16 89.8% Greek_Thessaly + 10.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.23
17 90.2% Greek_Thessaly + 9.8% Portuguese @ 4.29
18 91.4% Greek_Thessaly + 8.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.34
19 61.8% Greek + 38.2% Tuscan @ 4.39
20 92.1% Greek_Thessaly + 7.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.45

Again more realistic.

[Pjeter Pan]

Eugenes EUtest V2 k15
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 19.89
2 Atlantic 17.70
3 West_Med 17.37
4 North_Sea 14.98
5 West_Asian 10.08
6 Baltic 9.56
7 Eastern_Euro 7.63
8 Red_Sea 2.60


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tuscan @ 7.031358
2 Greek_Thessaly @ 7.812098
3 Greek @ 8.245656
4 Bulgarian @ 9.323481
5 North_Italian @ 10.246492
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 10.283071
7 Romanian @ 10.563716
8 West_Sicilian @ 11.317686
9 Central_Greek @ 12.559914
10 Serbian @ 12.908987
11 East_Sicilian @ 13.217869
12 Ashkenazi @ 13.565723
13 South_Italian @ 15.954927
14 Portuguese @ 18.073250
15 Spanish_Extremadura @ 18.353392
16 Spanish_Galicia @ 18.650656
17 Spanish_Murcia @ 18.883776
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.298889
19 Spanish_Andalucia @ 19.344194
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 19.821630

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% West_Sicilian @ 3.297242


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% West_German +25% West_Sicilian @ 2.235316


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek + Serbian + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.099711
2 Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + Serbian + West_Sicilian @ 2.108454
3 Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Italian + Serbian @ 2.121044
4 Central_Greek + Greek + North_Italian + Serbian @ 2.213172
5 Greek + North_Italian + Serbian + West_Sicilian @ 2.216911
6 Greek + Greek + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 2.235316
7 French + Greek + Greek + Greek_Thessaly @ 2.305579
8 Cyprian + East_German + Greek + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.340822
9 Central_Greek + Greek + Portuguese + Serbian @ 2.351277
10 Cyprian + East_German + Greek + Portuguese @ 2.357504
11 French + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 2.359991
12 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Italian + Serbian @ 2.368690
13 Greek + Portuguese + Serbian + South_Italian @ 2.394918
14 East_Sicilian + Greek + North_Italian + Serbian @ 2.435316
15 Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish + North_Italian + Serbian @ 2.445278
16 Cyprian + Greek + Hungarian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.456907
17 East_German + Greek + Italian_Jewish + North_Italian @ 2.459159
18 Italian_Abruzzo + Moldavian + North_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 2.468328
19 Greek + Serbian + South_Italian + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.468429
20 Central_Greek + Moldavian + North_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 2.483064

[Pjeter Pan]

K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.27
2 East_Med 22.46
3 West_Med 21.70
4 Baltic 16.00
5 West_Asian 11.02
6 Red_Sea 2.40


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 7.158251
2 Tuscan @ 7.577427
3 Bulgarian @ 9.968011
4 North_Italian @ 9.985113
5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 10.642067
6 Romanian @ 10.723687
7 West_Sicilian @ 11.689134
8 Central_Greek @ 13.257325
9 East_Sicilian @ 14.386555
10 Serbian @ 14.708794
11 South_Italian @ 16.973478
12 Ashkenazi @ 17.559820
13 Portuguese @ 19.035570
14 Spanish_Extremadura @ 19.437628
15 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.275614
16 Spanish_Andalucia @ 20.732550
17 Spanish_Murcia @ 20.745701
18 Spanish_Valencia @ 21.012434
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.056694
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 21.595829

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% Tuscan @ 2.031059


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% South_Italian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.419468


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.288722
2 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.419468
3 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.494434
4 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Romanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.505463
5 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Romanian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.577214
6 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.598991
7 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 1.624144
8 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Italian + Serbian @ 1.676441
9 Central_Greek + East_German + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 1.733298
10 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Italian + Romanian @ 1.773569
11 Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + Romanian + Tuscan @ 1.787023
12 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.793937
13 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.795560
14 Croatian + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 1.798848
15 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Greek_Thessaly + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.813022
16 Central_Greek + Croatian + South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia @ 1.831240
17 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Spanish_Murcia @ 1.835290
18 Austrian + Central_Greek + Central_Greek + North_Italian @ 1.848673
19 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Serbian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.853364
20 Greek_Thessaly + Romanian + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.860227

[Longbowman]

Not a clue. Probably more likely AJ. Want to get my parents tested but they're reluctant, although my maternal grandmother will do it.

AJ is Ashkenazi.

[Longbowman]

1/4 Croatian, 3/32 Polish, 1/32 Scottish, 1/64 Irish, 1/128 Maori and the other 60% or so would have to be the English. As New Zealand was mostly made up of migrants my ancestry is a bit all over the place. Croatian is probably regarded as the closest European heritage for me as my paternal grandmother was 100% Croatian.

My Origins on FTDNA gives me 6% Jewish out of curiosity.

You score West German because your significant but smaller East European (and possibly Jewish) ancestry is dragging your score eastwards.

[cally]

K15

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 3.801345
2 Hungarian + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian @ 3.874785
3 Greek + Lebanese_Druze + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 3.910214
4 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 3.920236
5 Central_Greek + Greek + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 3.957196
6 Greek + Kurdish_Jewish + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 3.973727
7 Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Swedish @ 4.033058
8 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 4.059402
9 Greek + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Swedish @ 4.067681
10 Bulgarian + Hungarian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 4.069213
11 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + West_German @ 4.069674
12 Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 4.102655
13 Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Serbian + Serbian @ 4.155543
14 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 4.156382
15 Assyrian + Greek + North_Swedish + Sardinian @ 4.174483
16 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.179617
17 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.204062
18 East_German + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 4.213114
19 Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian + Serbian @ 4.217323
20 Greek + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + South_Italian @ 4.218457

K13

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian + Hungarian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 3.874721
2 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + South_Polish @ 3.958924
3 Bulgarian + Croatian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 4.022056
4 Belorussian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 4.136835
5 Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Tuscan + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.167624
6 Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Serbian + Serbian @ 4.202082
7 Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian + Tuscan @ 4.226818
8 Croatian + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian @ 4.235386
9 Estonian_Polish + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 4.263589
10 Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Ukrainian @ 4.263939
11 Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 4.267579
12 Hungarian + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian @ 4.269557
13 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + South_Polish @ 4.303135
14 Belorussian + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 4.310381
15 Estonian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + South_Italian @ 4.320285
16 Central_Greek + Estonian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian @ 4.356874
17 Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian + Serbian @ 4.361001
18 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Moldavian + Sardinian @ 4.368699
19 Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 4.383462
20 Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.393224

[Siberia62]

AJ is Ashkenazi.

I know.

[Oneeye]

K13

North_Atlantic 46.78%
Baltic 23.29%
West_Med 13.14%
West_Asian 7.82%
East_Med 5.64%
Red_Sea 0.48%
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.94%
Oceanian 0.87%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -



1 South_Dutch 4.7
2 Southeast_English 4.8
3 West_German 4.82
4 North_German 5.2
5 North_Dutch 5.66
6 Orcadian 5.84
7 Danish 6
8 Irish 6.37
9 Southwest_English 6.51
10 West_Scottish 7.06
11 Norwegian 7.93
12 Swedish 9.21
13 French 10.21
14 Austrian 10.79
15 East_German 11.81
16 North_Swedish 14.41
17 Hungarian 15.19
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.75
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.02
20 Spanish_Galicia 19.17


1 80.9% Irish + 19.1% Bulgarian @ 1.97
2 91.6% Southeast_English + 8.4% Chechen @ 2.02
3 83.7% Irish + 16.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.07
4 79.2% West_Scottish + 20.8% Bulgarian @ 2.08
5 79% Irish + 21% Romanian @ 2.09
6 91.8% Southeast_English + 8.2% Lezgin @ 2.1
7 91.9% Southeast_English + 8.1% Kabardin @ 2.12
8 92.3% Southeast_English + 7.7% North_Ossetian @ 2.13
9 92.2% Southeast_English + 7.8% Adygei @ 2.13
10 91.5% Southeast_English + 8.5% Tabassaran @ 2.14
11 58.2% West_German + 41.8% Irish @ 2.15
12 91.8% Southeast_English + 8.2% Kumyk @ 2.17
13 77.2% West_Scottish + 22.8% Romanian @ 2.18
14 92.1% Southeast_English + 7.9% Balkar @ 2.21
15 85.9% Irish + 14.1% Central_Greek @ 2.24
16 91.4% Orcadian + 8.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.31
17 92.5% Southeast_English + 7.5% Ossetian @ 2.32
18 93.2% Southeast_English + 6.8% Georgian @ 2.33
19 91.4% Orcadian + 8.6% Armenian @ 2.34
20 93.5% Southeast_English + 6.5% Abhkasian @ 2.36



1 Irish + North_Dutch + West_German + West_German @ 2.241104
2 Romanian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.250088
3 Irish + North_German + West_German + West_German @ 2.253826
4 Irish + Romanian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.264966
5 North_German + West_German + West_German + West_Scottish @ 2.322521
6 Irish + Irish + Romanian + West_Scottish @ 2.338461
7 Irish + Irish + West_German + West_German @ 2.381012
8 Danish + Irish + West_German + West_German @ 2.429807
9 North_Dutch + West_German + West_German + West_Scottish @ 2.436826
10 Irish + Irish + Irish + Romanian @ 2.455630
11 Irish + North_German + South_Dutch + West_German @ 2.458937
12 North_Dutch + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 2.474114
13 Irish + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 2.482409
14 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + West_German + West_German @ 2.510463
15 North_German + Southwest_English + West_German + West_German @ 2.533796
16 Bulgarian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.537202
17 Irish + Norwegian + West_German + West_German @ 2.537727
18 North_German + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 2.550852
19 North_German + South_Dutch + West_German + West_Scottish @ 2.552139
20 Irish + Southeast_English + West_German + West_German @ 2.567748








K15


North_Sea 37.79%
Atlantic 23.61%
Baltic 8.38%
Eastern_Euro 10.50%
West_Med 8.90%
West_Asian 5.23%
East_Med 3.17%
Red_Sea 0.42%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.43%
Oceanian 0.57%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


1 North_Dutch 5.65
2 West_German 5.85
3 Danish 5.97
4 Norwegian 6.26
5 Orcadian 6.3
6 Southwest_English 6.48
7 Southeast_English 6.5
8 West_Norwegian 6.83
9 West_Scottish 7.18
10 North_German 7.51
11 Irish 7.59
12 Swedish 7.97
13 South_Dutch 8.27
14 North_Swedish 10.35
15 French 11.67
16 East_German 13.26
17 Southwest_Finnish 16.3
18 Hungarian 16.95
19 Austrian 17.67
20 Finnish 18.87



1 55.5% West_German + 44.5% West_Norwegian @ 3.42
2 52.8% West_German + 47.2% Orcadian @ 3.45
3 82.8% West_Norwegian + 17.2% Tuscan @ 3.5
4 84.5% West_Norwegian + 15.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.5
5 80.7% West_Norwegian + 19.3% North_Italian @ 3.59
6 85.3% West_Norwegian + 14.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.61
7 65.7% West_Norwegian + 34.3% French @ 3.63
8 86.8% West_Norwegian + 13.2% South_Italian @ 3.71
9 85.9% West_Norwegian + 14.1% Central_Greek @ 3.73
10 86.1% West_Norwegian + 13.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.76
11 87.7% West_Norwegian + 12.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.81
12 88.1% West_Norwegian + 11.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.82
13 52.9% West_German + 47.1% Norwegian @ 3.85
14 88.3% West_Norwegian + 11.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.88
15 79.5% West_Norwegian + 20.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.9
16 78.4% West_Norwegian + 21.6% Portuguese @ 3.94
17 89.8% West_Norwegian + 10.2% Cyprian @ 3.95
18 86.3% West_Norwegian + 13.7% Ashkenazi @ 3.99
19 56.7% West_Norwegian + 43.3% South_Dutch @ 4.02
20 89.1% West_Norwegian + 10.9% Turkish @ 4.03



1 Orcadian + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.353262
2 Norwegian + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 3.528303
3 West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.748901
4 Danish + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.783136
5 West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.836523
6 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 3.844250
7 South_Dutch + West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.846710
8 Southeast_English + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.865447
9 French + West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.871586
10 North_Dutch + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.897365
11 Orcadian + South_Dutch + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.942343
12 Southwest_English + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.942507
13 Danish + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 3.948463
14 Orcadian + Swedish + West_German + West_German @ 3.976441
15 North_Dutch + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 3.991441
16 Norwegian + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 4.002913
17 Irish + West_German + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 4.007041
18 Norwegian + West_German + West_German + West_Scottish @ 4.030632
19 North_Swedish + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 4.095888
20 Southwest_English + West_German + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 4.126693

[jtoml3]

You score West German because your significant but smaller East European (and possibly Jewish) ancestry is dragging your score eastwards.

So the German doesn't actually represent German but more so Polish/Eastern European? On all the Gedmatch calculators I always get some type of German in the top 3 of Single Population but it's never well represent in Oracles. So in the K15 for example, 3 Danish + Serbian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.809648, West German may mean Eastern European? The Danish probably represents some distant Scandinavian ancestry I assume. The Serbian would represent Croatian.

[Longbowman]

So the German doesn't actually represent German but more so Polish/Eastern European? On all the Gedmatch calculators I always get some type of German in the top 3 of Single Population but it's never well represent in Oracles. So in the K15 for example, 3 Danish + Serbian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.809648, West German may mean Eastern European? The Danish probably represents some distant Scandinavian ancestry I assume. The Serbian would represent Croatian.

No. If you were 100% Southeast English, you'd probably come up as Southeast English or a nearby population. If you were 50% Southeast English and 50% Cypriot, but the calculator were designed to tell you one closest population, it would calculate an intermediate population. In your case, 65% British Isles + 25% Eastern European + 5% Jewish Diaspora + 5% incrementals = West German, or closer to West German than anything else. It doesn't necessarily mean you have even a single drop of West German blood.

[jtoml3]

No. If you were 100% Southeast English, you'd probably come up as Southeast English or a nearby population. If you were 50% Southeast English and 50% Cypriot, but the calculator were designed to tell you one closest population, it would calculate an intermediate population. In your case, 65% British Isles + 25% Eastern European + 5% Jewish Diaspora + 5% incrementals = West German, or closer to West German than anything else. It doesn't necessarily mean you have even a single drop of West German blood.

I take it South Dutch could represent a middle point between British Isles and Eastern Europe?

[Longbowman]

I take it South Dutch could represent a middle point between British Isles and Eastern Europe?

Yes, although heavier on the British Isles.

[jtoml3]

Yes, although heavier on the British Isles.

Interesting. Danish seems to flood my K15 quite a bit. Could that simply be just a representation of British Isles due to its influence in the area?

[Patches]

K13 (My Results):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.13
2 Baltic 23.1
3 West_Med 13.42
4 East_Med 5.87
5 West_Asian 4.56
6 South_Asian 1.8
7 Sub-Saharan 1.27
8 Amerindian 0.56
9 Siberian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 2.3
2 Orcadian 4.13
3 Southwest_English 4.55
4 Danish 4.94
5 North_Dutch 5.04
6 South_Dutch 5.3
7 Irish 5.38
8 West_Scottish 5.46
9 North_German 5.88
10 West_German 6.43
11 Norwegian 7.36
12 Swedish 9.11
13 French 10.52
14 Austrian 12.59
15 East_German 13.22
16 North_Swedish 14.6
17 Hungarian 17.13
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.57
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.84
20 Spanish_Galicia 19.09

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Southeast_English @ 2.297327


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +25% Southeast_English +25% West_German @ 1.861875


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Danish + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 1.814704
2 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.818788
3 South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 1.859846
4 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.861875
5 Danish + Danish + French + Southeast_English @ 1.888496
6 Orcadian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 1.917662
7 Danish + French + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 1.933072
8 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 1.933659
9 Danish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.953651
10 Danish + Danish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.970965
11 North_Dutch + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.045574
12 Danish + French + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 2.048134
13 Danish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German @ 2.050169
14 Danish + Danish + Danish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.051634
15 Irish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 2.053575
16 Danish + French + North_Dutch + Southeast_English @ 2.075555
17 French + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.082442
18 Danish + Danish + French + Southwest_English @ 2.097617
19 North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 2.099796
20 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German @ 2.106075

K15:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 37.23
2 Atlantic 27.17
3 Baltic 9.27
4 West_Med 9.19
5 Eastern_Euro 8.8
6 East_Med 2.86
7 West_Asian 2.59
8 South_Asian 1.46
9 Sub-Saharan 1.16
10 Amerindian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 3.35
2 Southwest_English 3.66
3 Orcadian 3.95
4 North_Dutch 4.2
5 Danish 4.31
6 West_Scottish 4.35
7 Irish 4.66
8 North_German 6.49
9 Norwegian 6.67
10 West_German 7
11 West_Norwegian 7.09
12 South_Dutch 7.3
13 Swedish 8.35
14 French 10.98
15 North_Swedish 11.27
16 East_German 13.65
17 Southwest_Finnish 16.62
18 Austrian 17.78
19 Hungarian 17.93
20 Spanish_Galicia 18.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% Orcadian + 33.3% West_German @ 2.14
2 87% Orcadian + 13% Serbian @ 2.36
3 90.8% Orcadian + 9.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.37
4 68.6% Orcadian + 31.4% South_Dutch @ 2.38
5 91.5% Orcadian + 8.5% Greek @ 2.42
6 71% Southwest_English + 29% West_Norwegian @ 2.44
7 77.6% Orcadian + 22.4% French @ 2.46
8 88.7% Orcadian + 11.3% North_Italian @ 2.47
9 90% Orcadian + 10% Bulgarian @ 2.47
10 85.8% Orcadian + 14.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.5
11 89.1% Orcadian + 10.9% Romanian @ 2.51
12 77.4% West_Norwegian + 22.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.52
13 77.8% West_Norwegian + 22.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.53
14 77.3% West_Norwegian + 22.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.54
15 64.9% West_Scottish + 35.1% West_German @ 2.56
16 70.2% Southwest_English + 29.8% Norwegian @ 2.56
17 90.5% Orcadian + 9.5% Tuscan @ 2.56
18 93.8% Orcadian + 6.2% Algerian @ 2.56
19 93.5% Orcadian + 6.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.57
20 94% Orcadian + 6% Tunisian @ 2.58

[jtoml3]

K13 (My Results):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 49.13
2 Baltic 23.1
3 West_Med 13.42
4 East_Med 5.87
5 West_Asian 4.56
6 South_Asian 1.8
7 Sub-Saharan 1.27
8 Amerindian 0.56
9 Siberian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 2.3
2 Orcadian 4.13
3 Southwest_English 4.55
4 Danish 4.94
5 North_Dutch 5.04
6 South_Dutch 5.3
7 Irish 5.38
8 West_Scottish 5.46
9 North_German 5.88
10 West_German 6.43
11 Norwegian 7.36
12 Swedish 9.11
13 French 10.52
14 Austrian 12.59
15 East_German 13.22
16 North_Swedish 14.6
17 Hungarian 17.13
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.57
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.84
20 Spanish_Galicia 19.09

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +50% Southeast_English @ 2.297327


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +25% Southeast_English +25% West_German @ 1.861875


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Danish + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 1.814704
2 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.818788
3 South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 1.859846
4 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.861875
5 Danish + Danish + French + Southeast_English @ 1.888496
6 Orcadian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 1.917662
7 Danish + French + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 1.933072
8 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 1.933659
9 Danish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.953651
10 Danish + Danish + Norwegian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.970965
11 North_Dutch + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.045574
12 Danish + French + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 2.048134
13 Danish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German @ 2.050169
14 Danish + Danish + Danish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.051634
15 Irish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 2.053575
16 Danish + French + North_Dutch + Southeast_English @ 2.075555
17 French + Norwegian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 2.082442
18 Danish + Danish + French + Southwest_English @ 2.097617
19 North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 2.099796
20 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German @ 2.106075

K15:

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 37.23
2 Atlantic 27.17
3 Baltic 9.27
4 West_Med 9.19
5 Eastern_Euro 8.8
6 East_Med 2.86
7 West_Asian 2.59
8 South_Asian 1.46
9 Sub-Saharan 1.16
10 Amerindian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 3.35
2 Southwest_English 3.66
3 Orcadian 3.95
4 North_Dutch 4.2
5 Danish 4.31
6 West_Scottish 4.35
7 Irish 4.66
8 North_German 6.49
9 Norwegian 6.67
10 West_German 7
11 West_Norwegian 7.09
12 South_Dutch 7.3
13 Swedish 8.35
14 French 10.98
15 North_Swedish 11.27
16 East_German 13.65
17 Southwest_Finnish 16.62
18 Austrian 17.78
19 Hungarian 17.93
20 Spanish_Galicia 18.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% Orcadian + 33.3% West_German @ 2.14
2 87% Orcadian + 13% Serbian @ 2.36
3 90.8% Orcadian + 9.2% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.37
4 68.6% Orcadian + 31.4% South_Dutch @ 2.38
5 91.5% Orcadian + 8.5% Greek @ 2.42
6 71% Southwest_English + 29% West_Norwegian @ 2.44
7 77.6% Orcadian + 22.4% French @ 2.46
8 88.7% Orcadian + 11.3% North_Italian @ 2.47
9 90% Orcadian + 10% Bulgarian @ 2.47
10 85.8% Orcadian + 14.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.5
11 89.1% Orcadian + 10.9% Romanian @ 2.51
12 77.4% West_Norwegian + 22.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.52
13 77.8% West_Norwegian + 22.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.53
14 77.3% West_Norwegian + 22.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.54
15 64.9% West_Scottish + 35.1% West_German @ 2.56
16 70.2% Southwest_English + 29.8% Norwegian @ 2.56
17 90.5% Orcadian + 9.5% Tuscan @ 2.56
18 93.8% Orcadian + 6.2% Algerian @ 2.56
19 93.5% Orcadian + 6.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.57
20 94% Orcadian + 6% Tunisian @ 2.58

A fellow Kiwi :) What might your ancestry be?

[Patches]

^^ I live in New Zealand but I am not from there, but my ancestry is probably pretty compatible to some Kiwis... English, Irish, and French from what I know but there is certainly more... :) Or I should say lived in New Zealand... Did a Winter semester in Auckland and lived with a friend and travelled a lot. Awesome country!

[Longbowman]

Interesting. Danish seems to flood my K15 quite a bit. Could that simply be just a representation of British Isles due to its influence in the area?

The calculator is just looking for 4 populations that best resemble your specific match, even though your ancestry doesn't divide into 4 neat, even segments.

[Kazimiera]

K13

1 North_Atlantic 39.23
2 Baltic 31.34
3 West_Med 10.61
4 West_Asian 6.15
5 East_Med 4.48
6 Sub-Saharan 2.6
7 Amerindian 1.37
8 Oceanian 1.32
9 South_Asian 0.93
10 East_Asian 0.82
11 Northeast_African 0.7
12 Siberian 0.46

1 East_German 5.73
2 Austrian 6.74
3 North_German 8.55
4 Hungarian 8.86
5 North_Swedish 9
6 Swedish 9.05
7 West_German 10.5
8 Danish 10.91
9 North_Dutch 11.25
10 South_Dutch 11.38
11 Norwegian 11.43
12 South_Polish 12.64
13 Orcadian 12.86
14 Southeast_English 13.03
15 Croatian 13.08
16 Southwest_Finnish 13.4
17 Irish 13.79
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.44
19 West_Scottish 14.71
20 Southwest_English 14.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.6% Swedish + 36.4% Moldavian @ 3.14
2 60.2% Swedish + 39.8% Croatian @ 3.51
3 50.6% Hungarian + 49.4% Swedish @ 3.62
4 64.6% North_German + 35.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.82
5 57.7% Norwegian + 42.3% Moldavian @ 3.85
6 53.8% Norwegian + 46.2% Croatian @ 3.85
7 66% West_German + 34% Estonian @ 3.86
8 59.8% Southeast_English + 40.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.86
9 65.9% North_German + 34.1% Ukrainian @ 3.91
10 57.7% Danish + 42.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.95
11 53.2% Orcadian + 46.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4
12 56.9% North_Dutch + 43.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.02
13 69.6% West_German + 30.4% Lithuanian @ 4.03
14 64.6% West_German + 35.4% Finnish @ 4.04
15 59.6% Southeast_English + 40.4% Southwest_Russian @ 4.05
16 56.3% Southwest_English + 43.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.07
17 50.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.5% West_Scottish @ 4.1
18 61.4% North_German + 38.6% South_Polish @ 4.1
19 52.8% Southeast_English + 47.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.12
20 55.1% Danish + 44.9% Croatian @ 4.12


K 15

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 28.83
2 Atlantic 21.53
3 Baltic 18.64
4 Eastern_Euro 11.9
5 West_Med 6.93
6 West_Asian 4.04
7 Sub-Saharan 2.53
8 East_Med 1.4
9 Oceanian 1.26
10 Amerindian 1.07
11 South_Asian 0.7
12 Southeast_Asian 0.59
13 Northeast_African 0.58

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 5.61
2 Southwest_Finnish 8.54
3 Hungarian 8.68
4 North_German 8.82
5 North_Swedish 9.39
6 Austrian 9.87
7 Swedish 10.12
8 South_Dutch 10.85
9 Finnish 10.98
10 Danish 11.2
11 Norwegian 11.22
12 West_German 11.22
13 North_Dutch 11.32
14 South_Polish 12.14
15 Croatian 12.41
16 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.85
17 Southeast_English 12.93
18 Irish 12.99
19 Southwest_English 13.05
20 Polish 13.07

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% Ukrainian_Lviv + 46% Orcadian @ 3.68
2 50.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.7% Irish @ 3.76
3 55.6% South_Polish + 44.4% Orcadian @ 3.79
4 51.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.6% West_Scottish @ 3.82
5 50.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.8% Southeast_English @ 3.9
6 53.3% Ukrainian + 46.7% Orcadian @ 3.91
7 50.4% Irish + 49.6% Ukrainian @ 3.93
8 60.8% North_German + 39.2% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.94
9 61.5% North_German + 38.5% Ukrainian @ 3.96
10 53.9% Danish + 46.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.03
11 53.6% North_Dutch + 46.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.05
12 55.9% Swedish + 44.1% Croatian @ 4.05
13 50.8% Ukrainian + 49.2% West_Scottish @ 4.08
14 50.6% Southeast_English + 49.4% Ukrainian @ 4.08
15 52% North_Dutch + 48% South_Polish @ 4.11
16 54.3% North_Dutch + 45.7% Ukrainian @ 4.19
17 51.9% South_Polish + 48.1% Irish @ 4.22
18 51.8% South_Polish + 48.2% Southeast_English @ 4.22
19 53.1% South_Polish + 46.9% West_Scottish @ 4.27
20 59.6% North_German + 40.4% South_Polish

[Damião de Góis]

I don't understand what is new about the k13 and k15 runs. Can someone tell me?

[Jackson]

Here are mine, i think they are pretty much the same results as before, or similar. While i don't think i have any Jewish ancestry (Although FTdna's new population finder does include 9% Jewish, i don't get any real Jewish matches elsewhere, 23&me ancestry composition shows up ~2-3% South European, and none of my matches on FTdna have any Jewish diaspora score, but i do get a couple of Italian matches, so that's possible), i do seem to get an interesting combination - as my mother's side typically scores above average West Asian and to a lesser extent Western Mediterranean - but the above average East Med score seems to come from my Grandfather - i also seem to get some Red Sea which combines together the other two interestingly - so either one is just normal variation or i have two smaller sources of foreign ancestry somewhere along the line. Although the problem is that i think it's only my Mum's side that shows any matches or links with southern Europe so it's hard to tell.

That said my actual population is within 1 point distance from my closest population match here so it's not far off my known ancestry.

Although thinking about it, my maternal Grandmother found out she had a different first name than she had used for most of her life, which is Greek (although i don't know it's popularity in early 20th century Britain, it may have been a fashionable name). Problem with that is her ancestry is pretty well recorded for the last 2-3 centuries, and is pretty much all from rural Kent, Hampshire, Surrey & Wiltshire. 'Tis a mystery to say the least, if it is real.

K15:
1 North_Sea 34.34
2 Atlantic 24.73
3 Baltic 11.82
4 Eastern_Euro 8.91
5 West_Med 8.52
6 East_Med 4.31
7 West_Asian 3.67
8 Red_Sea 1.7
9 South_Asian 0.89
10 Sub-Saharan 0.56
11 Oceanian 0.41
12 Amerindian 0.13
13 Northeast_African 0.01

1 West_German 4.34
2 North_German 4.43
3 North_Dutch 4.65
4 Danish 4.91
5 South_Dutch 5.24
6 Southeast_English 5.29
7 Southwest_English 5.42
8 Irish 6.33
9 West_Scottish 6.62
10 Norwegian 6.79
11 Orcadian 7.4
12 Swedish 7.4
13 West_Norwegian 8.35
14 French 9.46
15 North_Swedish 9.72
16 East_German 10.03
17 Hungarian 13.79
18 Austrian 14
19 Southwest_Finnish 14.05
20 Finnish 16.99

1 86.4% North_Dutch + 13.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.45
2 88.3% North_Dutch + 11.7% Ashkenazi @ 1.51
3 90.2% North_Dutch + 9.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.54
4 56.4% Swedish + 43.6% French @ 1.66
5 88.5% North_Dutch + 11.5% East_Sicilian @ 1.66
6 90% North_Dutch + 10% Italian_Jewish @ 1.7
7 53.5% West_German + 46.5% Danish @ 1.7
8 91% North_Dutch + 9% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.7
9 88% North_Dutch + 12% West_Sicilian @ 1.71
10 87.5% North_Dutch + 12.5% Greek @ 1.74
11 88.5% North_Dutch + 11.5% Central_Greek @ 1.75
12 50.6% West_German + 49.4% North_German @ 1.78
13 85.9% North_Dutch + 14.1% Tuscan @ 1.78
14 90.3% North_Dutch + 9.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.79
15 89.4% North_Dutch + 10.6% South_Italian @ 1.8
16 91.2% North_Dutch + 8.8% Tunisian @ 1.83
17 91.1% North_Dutch + 8.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.85
18 91.1% North_Dutch + 8.9% Algerian @ 1.85
19 91.8% North_Dutch + 8.2% Cyprian @ 1.87
20 92.5% North_Dutch + 7.5% Samaritan @ 1.88


K13:
1 North_Atlantic 45.3
2 Baltic 24.24
3 West_Med 12.62
4 East_Med 7.06
5 West_Asian 5.63
6 Red_Sea 1.98
7 South_Asian 1.37
8 Oceanian 0.74
9 Sub-Saharan 0.56
10 Amerindian 0.5

1 South_Dutch 3.73
2 West_German 3.79
3 North_German 4.88
4 Southeast_English 5.49
5 Danish 6.15
6 North_Dutch 6.23
7 Orcadian 6.87
8 Southwest_English 7.62
9 Irish 7.87
10 West_Scottish 8.37
11 Norwegian 8.48
12 Swedish 9
13 Austrian 9.04
14 French 9.46
15 East_German 10.13
16 North_Swedish 13.38
17 Hungarian 13.49
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.35
19 Serbian 18.2
20 Spanish_Galicia 18.34

1 87.9% North_Dutch + 12.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.4
2 86.2% North_Dutch + 13.8% Ashkenazi @ 1.45
3 79.9% North_German + 20.1% Portuguese @ 1.51
4 66.8% North_German + 33.2% French @ 1.54
5 84.7% North_Dutch + 15.3% West_Sicilian @ 1.59
6 83.2% North_Dutch + 16.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 1.6
7 85.8% North_Dutch + 14.2% East_Sicilian @ 1.62
8 81.5% North_German + 18.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.66
9 81.3% North_German + 18.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.69
10 82.2% Danish + 17.8% Tuscan @ 1.69
11 88.2% Danish + 11.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.7
12 84.9% Danish + 15.1% West_Sicilian @ 1.7
13 87.8% North_Dutch + 12.2% Italian_Jewish @ 1.71
14 80% Norwegian + 20% West_Sicilian @ 1.71
15 76.7% Norwegian + 23.3% Tuscan @ 1.72
16 80% North_German + 20% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.73
17 84.1% Norwegian + 15.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 1.74
18 88.7% North_Dutch + 11.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.77
19 88.7% North_Dutch + 11.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.78
20 81.5% North_German + 18.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.79

[Guapo]

Anyone have siblings that took autosmal dna tests? As we all know, they would be different than your own.

[Siberia62]

If you ask me, Jackson, it looks like you have some very distant mediterranean or even jewish ancestry. The Jew is probably unlikely, but you may well have some Greek or Sicilian....your gedmatch certainly looks that way. It's barely 1/8 though, whereas I have about 25% AJ, potentially.

[Alessio]

It's because of me they all work again. Thanks for your appreciation..

By the way, there's nothing ''new''.

[Grace O'Malley]

I don't understand what is new about the k13 and k15 runs. Can someone tell me?

I think some more populations must have been added because my top population previously was Irish and now it is North Dutch. Irish was correct previously.

Old K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.04
2 Baltic 25.27
3 West_Med 9.81
4 West_Asian 7.25
5 East_Med 1.77
6 Red_Sea 1.5
7 Amerindian 1.38
8 Siberian 0.75
9 Oceanian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 3.1
2 West_Scottish 3.61
3 Danish 3.66
4 Orcadian 3.82
5 Dutch 4.99
6 Norwegian 5.18
7 Southeast_English 6.09
8 Southwest_English 6.26
9 Swedish 6.5
10 German 7.54
11 North_Swedish 12.82
12 French 15.89
13 Austrian 18.61
14 Hungarian 19.56
15 Southwest_Finnish 21.09
16 Spanish_Cataluna 23.25
17 Polish 24.17
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 24.3
19 Southwest_French 24.33
20 Spanish_Galicia 24.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.2% Irish + 22.8% Swedish @ 2.54
2 70.2% West_Scottish + 29.8% Swedish @ 2.58
3 88.2% Irish + 11.8% North_Swedish @ 2.61
4 73.7% Irish + 26.3% Norwegian @ 2.66
5 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Finnish @ 2.67
6 93.4% Irish + 6.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.72
7 95.3% Irish + 4.7% East_Finnish @ 2.72
8 96.7% Irish + 3.3% Chuvash @ 2.74
9 84.2% West_Scottish + 15.8% North_Swedish @ 2.75
10 65.3% West_Scottish + 34.7% Norwegian @ 2.76
11 92% West_Scottish + 8% Finnish @ 2.77
12 97.1% Irish + 2.9% Mari @ 2.78
13 95.4% Irish + 4.6% Estonian @ 2.79
14 96.4% Irish + 3.6% Erzya @ 2.8
15 95.9% Irish + 4.1% Belorussian @ 2.83
16 93.1% West_Scottish + 6.9% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 2.83
17 94.1% West_Scottish + 5.9% Erzya @ 2.83
18 96.3% Irish + 3.7% Lithuanian @ 2.83
19 96% Irish + 4% Ukrainian_Northeast @ 2.83
20 96.2% Irish + 3.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.84

New K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.04
2 Baltic 25.27
3 West_Med 9.81
4 West_Asian 7.25
5 East_Med 1.77
6 Red_Sea 1.50
7 Amerindian 1.38


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Dutch @ 3.343981
2 Irish @ 3.397813
3 West_Scottish @ 4.026271
4 Norwegian @ 4.042346
5 Orcadian @ 4.244986
6 Danish @ 4.289660
7 North_German @ 6.192955
8 Southeast_English @ 6.842666
9 Southwest_English @ 6.901150
10 Swedish @ 7.318733
11 South_Dutch @ 11.629003
12 West_German @ 12.655422
13 North_Swedish @ 14.482445
14 Austrian @ 17.549162
15 East_German @ 17.693420
16 French @ 18.062477
17 Hungarian @ 22.544872
18 Southwest_Finnish @ 23.876503
19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 26.292759
20 Southwest_French @ 27.316259

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 2.522953


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 2.522953


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.519424
2 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.522953
3 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.540311
4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.548502
5 Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.564251
6 North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.622005
7 North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.648387
8 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.664680
9 Irish + North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.680890
10 Danish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.683445
11 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.695799
12 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.721051
13 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.729033
14 Danish + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.747781
15 Irish + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.753577
16 Irish + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 2.764748
17 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.766720
18 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.767802
19 Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.767981
20 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 2.775764

[Grace O'Malley]

Anyone have siblings that took autosmal dna tests? As we all know, they would be different than your own.

Yes my brother has. Here is his K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.51
2 Baltic 24.22
3 West_Med 12.51
4 West_Asian 8.60
5 South_Asian 1.63


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish @ 2.953441
2 West_Scottish @ 4.125409
3 Orcadian @ 4.597284
4 North_Dutch @ 5.259435
5 Danish @ 5.847117
6 Southwest_English @ 5.899682
7 Norwegian @ 6.340008
8 Southeast_English @ 6.921112
9 North_German @ 7.414295
10 Swedish @ 9.085962
11 South_Dutch @ 11.262790
12 West_German @ 12.498032
13 North_Swedish @ 16.278137
14 French @ 17.376427
15 Austrian @ 17.715973
16 East_German @ 17.800060
17 Hungarian @ 23.031059
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 25.135815
19 Southwest_Finnish @ 25.340517
20 Southwest_French @ 25.651096

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Irish @ 2.953441


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Irish +25% Irish @ 2.953441


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Irish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 2.953441
2 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.223475
3 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_Dutch @ 3.278868
4 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 3.295299
5 Irish + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 3.296951
6 Danish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 3.309850
7 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.312600
8 Irish + Irish + North_German + West_Scottish @ 3.415542
9 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.468552
10 Irish + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.503300
11 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.503497
12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.507485
13 Danish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.507721
14 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 3.550465
15 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Southwest_English @ 3.573220
16 Irish + North_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.577136
17 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 3.584926
18 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Orcadian @ 3.669406
19 Irish + Irish + North_German + Southwest_English @ 3.675050
20 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 3.688866

[noricum]

K13 Oracle

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.42
2 North_Atlantic 34.35
3 West_Med 13.15
4 East_Med 10.84
5 West_Asian 3.82
6 South_Asian 1.43
7 Red_Sea 1.40

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 5.091012
2 East_German @ 6.424834
3 Austrian @ 7.062417
4 Croatian @ 8.700176
5 South_Polish @ 10.312896
6 Moldavian @ 11.840747
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 12.221054
8 Ukrainian @ 12.809707
9 Serbian @ 12.916415
10 Polish @ 14.118455
11 West_German @ 15.476933
12 North_Swedish @ 15.557229
13 Southwest_Finnish @ 15.951303
14 North_German @ 16.650301
15 South_Dutch @ 16.670012
16 Southwest_Russian @ 17.125879
17 Russian_Smolensk @ 17.574970
18 Belorussian @ 17.763809
19 Estonian_Polish @ 17.831448
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 17.941393

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +50% French @ 3.899973


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +25% Southeast_English +25% Tuscan @ 2.389066


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Belorussian + Belorussian + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 2.389066
2 Belorussian + Lithuanian + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 2.473954
3 Belorussian + Belorussian + Danish + Tuscan @ 2.537846
4 Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 2.604442
5 Belorussian + Danish + Estonian_Polish + Tuscan @ 2.630701
6 Belorussian + Belorussian + North_Dutch + Tuscan @ 2.691256
7 Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 2.700361
8 Belorussian + Belorussian + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 2.706218
9 Belorussian + Belorussian + North_Italian + West_German @ 2.755039
10 Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + North_Dutch + Tuscan @ 2.790576
11 Belorussian + Belorussian + North_Italian + South_Dutch @ 2.811605
12 Danish + Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Tuscan @ 2.813115
13 Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + Orcadian + Tuscan @ 2.855735
14 Belorussian + Belorussian + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 2.858053
15 Belorussian + Belorussian + North_Italian + Southeast_English @ 2.858373
16 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Southeast_English + Tuscan @ 2.880257
17 Belorussian + Estonian_Polish + Norwegian + Tuscan @ 2.902055
18 Belorussian + Belorussian + Hungarian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.906346
19 Belorussian + East_German + Southwest_Finnish + Tuscan @ 2.917379
20 Belorussian + Belorussian + North_German + Tuscan @ 2.928873

K15

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 23.18
2 North_Sea 21.34
3 Baltic 21.05
4 Eastern_Euro 14.07
5 West_Med 9.20
6 East_Med 8.00
7 West_Asian 1.28
8 Red_Sea 1.05


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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 5.765097
2 Hungarian @ 8.222342
3 Croatian @ 8.837677
4 East_German @ 9.124381
5 South_Polish @ 11.653223
6 Serbian @ 12.456457
7 Moldavian @ 12.726727
8 Polish @ 12.778617
9 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 13.166403
10 Ukrainian @ 13.376654
11 Southwest_Finnish @ 13.646998
12 Russian_Smolensk @ 14.954370
13 South_Dutch @ 15.937356
14 Finnish @ 15.960243
15 Romanian @ 16.611311
16 La_Brana-1 @ 16.679312
17 Belorussian @ 16.744600
18 North_German @ 16.941031
19 Estonian_Polish @ 16.968325
20 Southwest_Russian @ 17.087912

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +50% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.224508


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Belorussian +25% Spanish_Valencia +25% West_German @ 3.874491


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Austrian + Belorussian + Polish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.689687
2 Austrian + Belorussian + Estonian + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.731912
3 Austrian + Estonian + Polish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.734666
4 Austrian + Belorussian + Estonian + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.777260
5 Lithuanian + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.788743
6 Belorussian + Estonian + Serbian + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.827122
7 Austrian + Lithuanian + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.831978
8 Austrian + Estonian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.847170
9 Belorussian + Belorussian + Spanish_Valencia + West_German @ 3.874491
10 Belorussian + Estonian + Serbian + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.881372
11 Austrian + Estonian + Polish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.881984
12 Austrian + Estonian + South_Polish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.882886
13 Austrian + Estonian + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.888512
14 Austrian + Belorussian + Belorussian + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.910922
15 Belorussian + French + Lithuanian + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.915178
16 Austrian + Belorussian + Polish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.919825
17 Austrian + Lithuanian + Polish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.925161
18 Austrian + Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.934403
19 Belorussian + Lithuanian + South_Dutch + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.955175
20 Austrian + Belorussian + Estonian + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.956427

[Jackson]

If you ask me, Jackson, it looks like you have some very distant mediterranean or even jewish ancestry. The Jew is probably unlikely, but you may well have some Greek or Sicilian....your gedmatch certainly looks that way. It's barely 1/8 though, whereas I have about 25% AJ, potentially.

Yeah that's what i was thinking. It's difficult to tell which it is because southern Italians and the majority of Jews tend to be genetically similar in admixture. I think the 12% is an overestimation based on everything considered, but something like 6% Italian or Jewish is certainly plausible, just need to find a paper trail though as i haven't found any clues to it so far unfortunately. My mother's results on the oracle make it look more West Asian proper, like Georgian or something similar, and her sister's oracle results make it look more like Sardinian - although my mother's side have quite a high Baltic score so sometimes they get mixed like NW Euro + Ukrainian or Russian and things like that.

[Jackson]

It's because of me they all work again. Thanks for your appreciation..

By the way, there's nothing ''new''.

Well thanks, we apologize for not knowing...i forgot to check my crystal ball this morning.

[Siberia62]

It's because of me they all work again. Thanks for your appreciation..

By the way, there's nothing ''new''.

Yeah, how could we even know Alessio?

But thanks.

Though the K13 and K15 Oracle results ARE new.

[Grace O'Malley]

Brother's K15 Results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 38.02
2 Atlantic 28.50
3 Eastern_Euro 9.98
4 Baltic 9.12
5 West_Med 7.56
6 West_Asian 5.23


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 3.213047
2 West_Scottish @ 3.800461
3 North_Dutch @ 4.402150
4 Danish @ 4.449411
5 Irish @ 4.582540
6 Southeast_English @ 4.794890
7 Southwest_English @ 5.671537
8 North_German @ 7.275247
9 Norwegian @ 7.684995
10 West_Norwegian @ 7.760220
11 Swedish @ 9.670259
12 South_Dutch @ 10.405709
13 West_German @ 10.965762
14 North_Swedish @ 12.858974
15 French @ 15.257990
16 East_German @ 16.842857
17 Southwest_Finnish @ 19.094088
18 Austrian @ 21.992764
19 Hungarian @ 22.408499
20 Finnish @ 22.635736

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +50% Orcadian @ 2.700008


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +25% Orcadian +25% Orcadian @ 2.700008


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.468943
2 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.606963
3 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.664194
4 Danish + Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.700008
5 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.719922
6 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.725399
7 Danish + North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.767285
8 North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.777022
9 Danish + Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.791629
10 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.816727
11 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.820725
12 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.830852
13 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.836830
14 Danish + North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.876363
15 Irish + North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.906238
16 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.906962
17 North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.914979
18 North_Dutch + North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.926702
19 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.933666
20 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.943340

Mine

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 37.04
2 Atlantic 29.88
3 Baltic 11.89
4 Eastern_Euro 8.75
5 West_Asian 5.16
6 West_Med 4.95
7 Amerindian 1.15
8 Red_Sea 1.10


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish @ 3.425280
2 West_Scottish @ 3.557808
3 North_Dutch @ 4.181393
4 Danish @ 4.453959
5 Orcadian @ 5.505360
6 Southeast_English @ 5.676529
7 North_German @ 5.882824
8 Southwest_English @ 7.466283
9 Norwegian @ 8.417722
10 West_Norwegian @ 8.735489
11 Swedish @ 9.296607
12 South_Dutch @ 11.184519
13 West_German @ 12.499153
14 North_Swedish @ 12.662151
15 East_German @ 16.492691
16 French @ 16.524723
17 Southwest_Finnish @ 17.903034
18 Austrian @ 21.142027
19 Finnish @ 21.647963
20 Hungarian @ 21.914810

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% North_Dutch @ 3.203073


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% North_Dutch +25% West_Scottish @ 3.143203


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Irish + North_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.125094
2 North_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.128713
3 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.143203
4 Irish + Irish + North_German + Orcadian @ 3.144938
5 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_Dutch @ 3.150105
6 Irish + North_German + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 3.159487
7 Irish + Irish + North_German + West_Scottish @ 3.182833
8 North_Dutch + North_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.183386
9 Irish + North_Dutch + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.193700
10 Irish + North_Dutch + North_German + West_Scottish @ 3.195021
11 North_German + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.202463
12 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch @ 3.203073
13 Danish + Irish + Irish + North_Dutch @ 3.235043
14 Danish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 3.235556
15 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.238354
16 Danish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.248949
17 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + North_German @ 3.252259
18 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 3.254036
19 Irish + North_Dutch + North_German + Orcadian @ 3.259177
20 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 3.268316

Done.

Mum

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 36.05
2 Atlantic 29.16
3 Baltic 10.33
4 Eastern_Euro 8.21
5 West_Med 7.91
6 West_Asian 5.88
7 South_Asian 1.75


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish @ 3.712616
2 Southeast_English @ 4.006923
3 West_Scottish @ 4.064145
4 Orcadian @ 4.745761
5 Southwest_English @ 4.754088
6 North_Dutch @ 4.764510
7 Danish @ 5.020404
8 North_German @ 5.973527
9 South_Dutch @ 8.970989
10 Norwegian @ 9.095148
11 West_Norwegian @ 9.707964
12 Swedish @ 10.494390
13 West_German @ 10.563247
14 North_Swedish @ 13.809399
15 French @ 13.879684
16 East_German @ 15.707789
17 Southwest_Finnish @ 18.947729
18 Austrian @ 20.490095
19 Hungarian @ 21.300352
20 Spanish_Cataluna @ 22.506128

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% North_German +50% Orcadian @ 3.030039


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_German +25% Orcadian +25% Orcadian @ 3.030039


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Irish + North_German + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.805992
2 North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.816043
3 North_German + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.867043
4 North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.948061
5 Irish + North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.957859
6 Irish + North_German + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 2.992876
7 North_German + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 3.028737
8 North_German + North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.030039
9 Irish + Irish + North_German + Orcadian @ 3.038073
10 North_German + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 3.069782
11 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch @ 3.076714
12 North_German + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.093904
13 North_German + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 3.110466
14 North_Dutch + North_German + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.115544
15 Irish + North_German + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 3.120717
16 North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 3.158214
17 North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch @ 3.164444
18 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.164515
19 Danish + North_German + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.172993
20 North_German + North_German + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.178697

Done.

Daughter's K15 - she always comes out English

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 37.18
2 Atlantic 30.44
3 West_Med 9.78
4 Baltic 9.49
5 Eastern_Euro 6.46
6 West_Asian 4.43
7 Amerindian 1.15


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southwest_English @ 3.981987
2 Southeast_English @ 4.014712
3 Irish @ 4.146006
4 West_Scottish @ 4.486763
5 Orcadian @ 4.497680
6 North_Dutch @ 6.294936
7 Danish @ 7.175951
8 North_German @ 8.658241
9 South_Dutch @ 9.878756
10 West_Norwegian @ 10.526972
11 Norwegian @ 10.609604
12 West_German @ 11.457355
13 Swedish @ 12.222066
14 French @ 13.619255
15 North_Swedish @ 16.015079
16 East_German @ 17.821129
17 Southwest_Finnish @ 21.361969
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.701128
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 22.122038
20 Austrian @ 22.577538

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Southwest_English @ 2.958911


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English @ 2.958911


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.879309
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.958911
3 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.004445
4 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.098222
5 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.101655
6 Irish + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 3.107393
7 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 3.139777
8 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.140771
9 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.166935
10 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.227730
11 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.234730
12 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.237760
13 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.239773
14 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 3.267176
15 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.297624
16 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.328922
17 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.402054
18 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.405499
19 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.408808
20 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 3.431198

[Stanislav]

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15
Kit Num: F297394

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.23
2 North_Sea 22.42
3 Eastern_Euro 18.04
4 Atlantic 15.88
5 West_Med 5.69
6 Siberian 3.68
7 West_Asian 3.33
8 South_Asian 1.68

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Polish @ 5.224390

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.940874

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Finnish +25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.740011

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Finnish + Lithuanian + South_Polish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.314444

[karen1300]

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15
Kit Num: F297394

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.23
2 North_Sea 22.42
3 Eastern_Euro 18.04
4 Atlantic 15.88
5 West_Med 5.69
6 Siberian 3.68
7 West_Asian 3.33
8 South_Asian 1.68

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Polish @ 5.224390

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +50% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.940874

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Finnish +25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.740011

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Finnish + Lithuanian + South_Polish + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.314444

Stanislav,

I just ran a comparison on GEDmatch. It seems like we have a match, somewhere.

Comparing Kit A644193 and F297394
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.4

My K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.53
2 Baltic 20.77
3 West_Med 12.74
4 West_Asian 5.90
5 East_Med 4.59
6 Sub-Saharan 1.60
7 Amerindian 1.29

Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 3.722810
2 Southwest_English @ 4.378871
3 Orcadian @ 4.683064
4 West_Scottish @ 5.105005
5 Irish @ 5.304195
6 North_Dutch @ 6.433345
7 Danish @ 6.783501
8 South_Dutch @ 7.758883
9 North_German @ 8.222301
10 West_German @ 9.029934
11 Norwegian @ 9.034206
12 Swedish @ 11.644199
13 French @ 12.846045
14 Austrian @ 16.913551
15 East_German @ 17.791695
16 North_Swedish @ 18.267160
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 20.368856
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 21.684765
19 Southwest_French @ 21.931534
20 Hungarian @ 22.073172

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% South_Dutch +50% West_Scottish @ 3.632604

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southwest_English +25% West_German +25% West_Scottish @ 3.247644

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.998137
2 French + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.075445
3 French + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.076479
4 Southwest_English + West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.121037
5 Southeast_English + West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.134476
6 French + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.186993
7 French + Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 3.192034
8 French + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.210449
9 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 3.235651
10 Danish + French + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.236668
11 South_Dutch + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.244530
12 French + North_Dutch + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.246738
13 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 3.247644
14 West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.258331
15 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 3.270302
16 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 3.276469
17 French + Irish + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 3.287343
18 Irish + Southwest_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 3.294844
19 French + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.317450
20 Irish + Southeast_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 3.319174


My Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 37.48
2 Atlantic 27.59
3 West_Med 8.96
4 Baltic 8.20
5 Eastern_Euro 7.69
6 West_Asian 4.16
7 Sub-Saharan 1.59
8 East_Med 1.52
9 Amerindian 1.11

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 3.551312
2 Southeast_English @ 4.174441
3 Southwest_English @ 4.349747
4 West_Scottish @ 4.948978
5 Irish @ 5.281071
6 North_Dutch @ 5.352518
7 Danish @ 5.940773
8 North_German @ 8.126102
9 Norwegian @ 8.705535
10 West_Norwegian @ 8.780315
11 West_German @ 9.115834
12 South_Dutch @ 9.232576
13 Swedish @ 10.588833
14 French @ 13.093480
15 North_Swedish @ 14.123851
16 East_German @ 17.040121
17 Southwest_Finnish @ 20.301340
18 Spanish_Galicia @ 21.778959
19 Austrian @ 21.903358
20 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.903616

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Southwest_English @ 2.558344

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% West_German @ 2.187068

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German @ 2.187068
2 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.217937
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch @ 2.277815
4 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German @ 2.351785
5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 2.374125
6 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German + West_Scottish @ 2.468747
7 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 2.477478
8 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German @ 2.507634
9 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.558344
10 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 2.679531
11 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.697990
12 French + North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.762897
13 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 2.794733
14 French + Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 2.808287
15 Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 2.823268
16 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 2.851216
17 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 2.860194
18 Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English @ 2.879600
19 Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 2.924696
20 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German @ 2.929227

[karen1300]

My dad's K13

K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 48.37
2 Baltic 19.60
3 West_Med 13.27
4 West_Asian 7.29
5 East_Med 3.85
6 Sub-Saharan 2.33
7 Amerindian 1.96
8 South_Asian 1.68
9 Siberian 1.35

Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 6.104596
2 Southwest_English @ 6.403538
3 Orcadian @ 6.801990
4 Irish @ 7.129369
5 South_Dutch @ 7.195322
6 West_Scottish @ 7.328851
7 West_German @ 8.279880
8 North_Dutch @ 8.298849
9 Danish @ 8.449733
10 North_German @ 8.956741
11 Norwegian @ 10.775578
12 French @ 11.863324
13 Swedish @ 12.863933
14 Austrian @ 16.259150
15 East_German @ 17.297695
16 North_Swedish @ 19.100458
17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.391806
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 20.730537
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 21.026623
20 Southwest_French @ 21.055399

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% West_German +50% West_Scottish @ 4.697237

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Irish +25% Portuguese @ 4.654455

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French + West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.634324
2 Irish + Irish + Irish + Portuguese @ 4.654455
3 French + Irish + West_German + West_Scottish @ 4.664317
4 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.669305
5 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.677274
6 Danish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.680862
7 Irish + North_German + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish @ 4.683331
8 North_German + Spanish_Cataluna + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.692401
9 South_Dutch + West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.693482
10 Irish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.693589
11 Danish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.697106
12 West_German + West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.697237
13 Irish + Irish + North_German + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.699882
14 Danish + Irish + Spanish_Extremadura + West_Scottish @ 4.704019
15 Irish + Irish + Portuguese + West_Scottish @ 4.704181
16 French + Irish + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 4.708207
17 French + South_Dutch + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.710367
18 Irish + Irish + North_German + Spanish_Murcia @ 4.710711
19 Danish + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.712972
20 Irish + North_German + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish @ 4.715792


Dad's EUtest V2 K15
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 36.95
2 Atlantic 24.74
3 West_Med 9.30
4 Baltic 8.46
5 Eastern_Euro 6.73
6 West_Asian 5.64
7 Sub-Saharan 2.21
8 Amerindian 1.75
9 South_Asian 1.70
10 East_Med 1.53

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 6.440276
2 Southwest_English @ 6.466640
3 North_Dutch @ 6.869658
4 Southeast_English @ 6.951408
5 West_German @ 7.662966
6 Danish @ 7.724478
7 West_Scottish @ 7.967610
8 Irish @ 7.994877
9 North_German @ 8.795424
10 Norwegian @ 9.081358
11 South_Dutch @ 9.385814
12 West_Norwegian @ 9.571997
13 Swedish @ 10.579108
14 French @ 12.684860
15 North_Swedish @ 14.090360
16 East_German @ 16.246311
17 Southwest_Finnish @ 20.216663
18 Hungarian @ 20.738241
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 21.186316
20 Austrian @ 21.280567

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% West_German @ 4.023198

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% West_German +25% West_German @ 4.023198

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 4.023198
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German @ 4.424572
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German @ 4.517772
4 Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch + West_German @ 4.520746
5 Orcadian + West_German + West_German + West_Scottish @ 4.546346
6 Irish + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 4.587513
7 French + Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.623185
8 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German + West_German @ 4.634944
9 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 4.644835
10 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German @ 4.647394
11 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 4.658399
12 North_Dutch + Orcadian + West_German + West_German @ 4.663324
13 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 4.677877
14 Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_German + West_German @ 4.683836
15 French + Orcadian + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 4.690976
16 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German @ 4.692832
17 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German @ 4.720536
18 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 4.740785
19 North_German + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German @ 4.749536
20 Norwegian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German @ 4.764216

[Stanislav]

Stanislav,

I just ran a comparison on GEDmatch. It seems like we have a match, somewhere.

Comparing Kit A644193 and F297394
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.4


Thank you for answering. 7.4 - is very fare relationship, perhaps, from The Vikings Age. But, it confirms our common origin of the Vikings.

[ALL]

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.94
2 North_Sea 21.24
3 Atlantic 19.00
4 Eastern_Euro 18.49
5 West_Med 6.70
6 West_Asian 4.69
7 South_Asian 1.57
8 East_Med 1.09


Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Polish @ 2.890596
2 Polish @ 3.235953
3 Ukrainian @ 5.530582
4 Russian_Smolensk @ 5.597191


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 East_German + Estonian_Polish + Russian_Smolensk + South_Polish @ 1.769863

[Grace O'Malley]

Just a general query. Are people finding this calculator accurate?

[Graham]

Just a general query. Are people finding this calculator accurate?

Due the calculator effect, it's one of a few, people can trust more... Dodecad is broke for people like yourself to compare on average populations.

K15/13 looks good to me, people are generally close. If not, it's usually to a nation that is culturally similar.

[Grace O'Malley]

Due the calculator effect, it's one of a few, people can trust more... Dodecad is broke for people like yourself to compare on average populations.

K15/13 looks good to me, people are generally close. If not, it's usually to a nation that is culturally similar.

Yes I agree Graham. On Dodecad I always come out German.

[Black Wolf]

Mine. I really am a mutt lol. These are my K15 results.

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_German @ 6.882934
2 South_Dutch @ 9.166259
3 North_German @ 10.206125
4 East_German @ 11.009475
5 Danish @ 11.436258
6 North_Dutch @ 12.148989
7 North_Swedish @ 12.238081
8 French @ 12.285089
9 Norwegian @ 12.431664
10 Southeast_English @ 12.702209
11 Swedish @ 12.762684
12 Hungarian @ 12.804001
13 Southwest_English @ 12.808552
14 Austrian @ 13.840972
15 Irish @ 14.203956
16 West_Scottish @ 14.261093
17 West_Norwegian @ 14.660180
18 Orcadian @ 14.968451
19 Southwest_Finnish @ 15.353154
20 Serbian @ 15.462649

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% West_Norwegian @ 4.507474


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Swedish +25% West_Norwegian +25% West_Sicilian @ 2.939647


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 2.620787
2 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 2.834436
3 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 2.885162
4 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian + West_Sicilian @ 2.939647
5 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Norwegian + West_Sicilian @ 2.968930
6 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.975459
7 Italian_Abruzzo + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 3.005563
8 Central_Greek + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 3.038696
9 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 3.055029
10 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Southeast_English @ 3.055705
11 Italian_Abruzzo + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.086883
12 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.099065
13 Italian_Jewish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.099953
14 Danish + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 3.107980
15 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Sephardic_Jewish + West_Norwegian @ 3.123158
16 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 3.130798
17 East_Sicilian + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 3.147161
18 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.187288
19 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.205017
20 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + South_Italian + West_Norwegian @ 3.210124

[Hevo]

Just a general query. Are people finding this calculator accurate?

It looks like the of Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle has changed too. First people had slightly different admix results.

[Graham]

Because I score very North West. It gives conflicting messages. But it is where my family are from anyway. One looks Norse the other Celt.

-- K13 --
Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_Scottish @ 3.561598
2 Irish @ 4.499962
3 Orcadian @ 4.524945
4 North_Dutch @ 5.508466
5 Southwest_English @ 5.638236

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +50% West_Scottish @ 3.561598

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish @ 3.561598

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.561598
2 North_Dutch + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.623883
3 Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.647751

-- K15 --
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 4.754434
2 West_Norwegian @ 6.793912
3 West_Scottish @ 6.922198
4 North_Dutch @ 7.799130
5 Danish @ 8.081676

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% West_Norwegian @ 4.524168


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% West_Norwegian @ 4.252707


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 4.252707
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 4.524168
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 4.648046

[Grace O'Malley]

It looks like the of Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle has changed too. First people had slightly different admix results.

Yes it has changed as my top result is different than previously.

[Grace O'Malley]

Because I score very North West. It gives conflicting messages. But it is where my family are from anyway.

-- K13 --
Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_Scottish @ 3.561598
2 Irish @ 4.499962
3 Orcadian @ 4.524945
4 North_Dutch @ 5.508466
5 Southwest_English @ 5.638236

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +50% West_Scottish @ 3.561598

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish @ 3.561598

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.561598
2 North_Dutch + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.623883
3 Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.647751

K15
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 4.754434
2 West_Norwegian @ 6.793912
3 West_Scottish @ 6.922198
4 North_Dutch @ 7.799130
5 Danish @ 8.081676

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% West_Norwegian @ 4.524168


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% West_Norwegian @ 4.252707


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 4.252707
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 4.524168
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 4.648046

You get a similar result to all my family except my daughter. The top populations are either Irish, West Scot, Orcadian or North Dutch. My daughter on all these calculators always get an English result.

[Damião de Góis]

Just a general query. Are people finding this calculator accurate?

I already thought of K13 as probably the most accurate run. These changes didn't change my opinion.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/r1ikio.jpg

K15 is good too, but a little less accurate for me (guesses me as Castilla-Leon).

[Rochefaton]

For anyone interested, I have made two Excel-based spreadsheets that serve as the basic Oracle function for both the Eurogenes K13 (http://www.filedropper.com/ancientbritoraclek13) and K15 (http://www.filedropper.com/ancientbritoraclek15) runs. They can be used to compare your results from the two runs to those of the recently analyzed Iron Age and Anglo-Saxon period Hinxton samples.

At the moment they only compare the input values to those of the first three Hinxton samples, but I can add the other two samples to the spreadsheets in a matter of minutes if given their Eurogenes K13 and K15 values. They may not be aesthetically pleasing, but their results are accurate. As an example, here are my results for the K13 and K15 runs, respectively.

http://i58.tinypic.com/2ia4km9.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/e70a5h.jpg

All you have to do is place your values from the Eurogenes runs into their appropriate cells located in column B of each sheet, and Excel will do the rest.

[Graham]

K13Mine
Hinxton #2 5.74
Hinxton #1 5.95
Hinxton #3 7.98

Dad ( Cumbria, Scotland) R-L21*, U4a
Hinxton #2 8.54
Hinxton #1 10.29
Hinxton #3 10.02

Mum ( Shetland, Scotland, Northumberland) K1C2
Hinxton #1 4.98
Hinxton #2 8.71
Hinxton #3 10.29

K15Mine
Hinxton #2 3.36
Hinxton #1 4.48
Hinxton #3 5.75

Dad ( Cumbria, Scotland) R-L21*, U4a
Hinxton #3 6.10
Hinxton #2 6.59
Hinxton #1 7.36


Mum ( Shetland, Scotland, Northumberland) K1C2
Hinxton #1 6.36
Hinxton #2 6.81
Hinxton #3 10.23

[Jackson]

K13Mine
Hinxton #2 5.74
Hinxton #1 5.95
Hinxton #3 7.98

Dad ( Cumbria, Scotland) R-L21*, U4a
Hinxton #2 8.54
Hinxton #1 10.29
Hinxton #3 10.02

Mum ( Shetland, Scotland, Northumberland) K1C2
Hinxton #1 4.98
Hinxton #2 8.71
Hinxton #3 10.29

K15Mine
Hinxton #2 3.36
Hinxton #1 4.48
Hinxton #3 5.75

Dad ( Cumbria, Scotland) R-L21*, U4a
Hinxton #3 6.10
Hinxton #2 6.59
Hinxton #1 7.36


Mum ( Shetland, Scotland, Northumberland) K1C2
Hinxton #1 6.36
Hinxton #2 6.81
Hinxton #3 10.23

I notice your Mum shows a big gap between Hinxton 1 & 2 and Hinxton 3 as do all my family members, although the overall distances are greater for my family (generally 10,10, 14 or therabouts - i'll post the results a little later).

[Graham]

Perhaps a wee bit further with the noise.




New K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 52.04
2 Baltic 25.27
3 West_Med 9.81
4 West_Asian 7.25
5 East_Med 1.77
6 Red_Sea 1.50
7 Amerindian 1.38




Hinxton #1 3.20
Hinxton #2 6.58
Hinxton #3 7.69



Yes my brother has. Here is his K13

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 51.51
2 Baltic 24.22
3 West_Med 12.51
4 West_Asian 8.60
5 South_Asian 1.63


Hinxton #1 3.57
Hinxton #2 8.11
Hinxton #3 8.17

[Tchek]

My K13 results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 44.71
2 West_Med 17.99
3 Baltic 17.65
4 East_Med 9.76
5 West_Asian 5.43
6 South_Asian 1.88
7 Red_Sea 1.84
8 Amerindian 0.39
9 Oceanian 0.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 2.68
2 South_Dutch 5.15
3 West_German 5.74
4 Southeast_English 9.12
5 Spanish_Cataluna 9.85
6 Southwest_English 10.01
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.21
8 Spanish_Galicia 11.44
9 Portuguese 11.44
10 Orcadian 11.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.3% French + 19.7% Southeast_English @ 1.51
2 84.9% French + 15.1% West_Scottish @ 1.52
3 57.4% West_Scottish + 42.6% North_Italian @ 1.53
4 68.9% Southwest_English + 31.1% Tuscan @ 1.55
5 85.1% French + 14.9% Irish @ 1.6



My K15 results

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 31.37
2 North_Sea 26.5
3 West_Med 12.61
4 Baltic 8.15
5 East_Med 7.5
6 Eastern_Euro 6.25
7 West_Asian 4.16
8 Red_Sea 1.79
9 South_Asian 1.39
10 Oceanian 0.15
11 Amerindian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 5.64
2 South_Dutch 6.43
3 Spanish_Cataluna 9.1
4 Southwest_English 9.5
5 Southeast_English 9.95
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.37
7 West_German 10.86
8 Spanish_Murcia 11.21
9 Portuguese 11.22
10 Spanish_Galicia 11.29


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.3% Spanish_Valencia + 48.7% Danish @ 2.47
2 51.2% Irish + 48.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.57
3 50.4% Spanish_Valencia + 49.6% West_Scottish @ 2.58
4 55.2% Irish + 44.8% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.59
5 53.6% West_Scottish + 46.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.6

[karen1300]

Thank you for answering. 7.4 - is very fare relationship, perhaps, from The Vikings Age. But, it confirms our common origin of the Vikings.

You're welcome. I have figured out you do not match my father. Therefore, we must connect on my mother's side... somewhere.?. :thumb001:

[Alessio]

Yeah, how could we even know Alessio?

But thanks.

Though the K13 and K15 Oracle results ARE new.

I wasn't informed about that fact, thanks !

My impression was that the same population averages were used. Something obviously has changed though when looking at some peoples reactions here.

[Mortimer]

K13
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 16.703808
2 Bulgarian @ 17.125486
3 Romanian @ 17.569115
4 Italian_Abruzzo @ 20.490191
5 Central_Greek @ 20.643761
6 Serbian @ 20.658720
7 East_Sicilian @ 21.498854
8 West_Sicilian @ 22.159981
9 Tuscan @ 22.262627
10 Moldavian @ 23.634890
11 North_Italian @ 23.896461
12 South_Italian @ 24.135355
13 Ashkenazi @ 24.412497
14 Hungarian @ 27.185606
15 Croatian @ 27.311346
16 Turkish @ 27.954670
17 Nogay @ 28.653008
18 Turkmen @ 28.846252
19 Tadjik @ 29.376665
20 Austrian @ 29.515713

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Afghan_Tadjik +50% North_Italian @ 10.581395


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Gujarati +25% Tuscan @ 3.362996


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Iranian_Jewish + La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.601501
2 Brahmin_UP + Georgian_Jewish + La_Brana-1 + Sardinian @ 2.700396
3 Assyrian + La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.805312
4 La_Brana-1 + Lebanese_Muslim + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.892149
5 Kurdish_Jewish + La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 2.923356
6 Assyrian + Brahmin_UP + La_Brana-1 + Sardinian @ 3.139093
7 La_Brana-1 + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian + Syrian @ 3.155434
8 Brahmin_UP + Finnish + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian @ 3.179107
9 Bangladeshi + Central_Greek + Romanian + Romanian @ 3.187925
10 Brahmin_UP + Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Croatian @ 3.201081
11 Brahmin_UP + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian @ 3.227827
12 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Romanian @ 3.250407
13 Brahmin_UP + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + South_Italian @ 3.255413
14 Brahmin_UP + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + West_Sicilian @ 3.259315
15 Estonian + Iranian_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 3.259318
16 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.264418
17 Bangladeshi + Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Serbian @ 3.266553
18 Brahmin_UP + Cyprian + North_Italian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.266772
19 Brahmin_UP + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + West_Sicilian @ 3.271399
20 Finnish + Iranian_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Sardinian @ 3.275060

EU Test K 15
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 16.962784
2 Romanian @ 17.783800
3 Bulgarian @ 18.344856
4 Serbian @ 19.687393
5 Ashkenazi @ 20.838886
6 Greek @ 20.887436
7 Moldavian @ 21.288942
8 Central_Greek @ 22.495584
9 Italian_Abruzzo @ 22.907492
10 East_Sicilian @ 22.949865
11 Tuscan @ 23.034708
12 Hungarian @ 24.149948
13 Croatian @ 24.901590
14 West_Sicilian @ 25.006109
15 North_Italian @ 25.114231
16 South_Italian @ 25.848907
17 Turkmen @ 26.125044
18 Austrian @ 26.285433
19 Tadjik @ 26.726227
20 Afghan_Uzbeki @ 27.331831

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Afghan_Uzbeki +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 12.507676


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% Moldavian +25% Punjabi_Jat @ 6.522295


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + Punjabi_Jat @ 6.522295
2 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian + Punjabi_Jat @ 6.549072
3 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian + Sindhi @ 6.576051
4 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Gujarati + Moldavian @ 6.698637
5 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Sindhi + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.738816
6 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Gujarati + Hungarian @ 6.757345
7 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + Sindhi @ 6.786020
8 Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Ukrainian @ 6.787009
9 Greek_Thessaly + Libyan_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6.805353
10 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Sindhi + Ukrainian @ 6.823977
11 Brahmin_UP + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian @ 6.941552
12 Ashkenazi + Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian + Punjabi_Jat @ 6.943881
13 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Punjabi_Jat + Serbian @ 6.944047
14 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian + Pathan @ 6.948871
15 Bangladeshi + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian @ 7.014613
16 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.065017
17 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Punjabi_Jat + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.065517
18 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Gujarati + Serbian @ 7.103986
19 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Jewish + Punjabi_Jat + Ukrainian @ 7.107904
20 Bangladeshi + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian @ 7.108844

[Tchek]

It's kinda accurate for me, the "South dutch" one is a nice addition

[Alessio]

It's kinda accurate for me, the "South dutch" one is a nice addition

MDLP k23b is way better for Dutch people though.

[Longbowman]

If you ask me, Jackson, it looks like you have some very distant mediterranean or even jewish ancestry. The Jew is probably unlikely, but you may well have some Greek or Sicilian....your gedmatch certainly looks that way. It's barely 1/8 though, whereas I have about 25% AJ, potentially.

Considering he's English, it's far more likely it be Jewish than the other two. Especially considering his Southern provenance.

[Gaita]

My oracle-4 results for K13 run. Pretty acurate.

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 37.72
2 West_Med 24.50
3 East_Med 14.41
4 Baltic 13.06
5 Red_Sea 4.97
6 Sub-Saharan 1.75
7 East_Asian 1.69


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Portuguese @ 4.027483
2 Spanish_Galicia @ 4.442789
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.370156
4 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.684992
5 Spanish_Murcia @ 5.823088
6 Spanish_Cataluna @ 6.382303
7 Spanish_Valencia @ 6.685981
8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.869242
9 Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.537405
10 Spanish_Andalucia @ 8.605929
11 Spanish_Aragon @ 10.355931
12 Southwest_French @ 10.359877
13 French @ 10.867393
14 North_Italian @ 10.982135
15 Tuscan @ 17.450232
16 South_Dutch @ 17.590427
17 West_German @ 17.677656
18 Austrian @ 22.059937
19 Serbian @ 22.061729
20 Romanian @ 22.623682

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +50% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.991610


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Portuguese +25% Portuguese +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.942286


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Southeast_English + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Tunisian @ 3.896470
2 Portuguese + Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.942286
3 Southeast_English + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian @ 3.978255
4 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 3.991610
5 Orcadian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian @ 4.013757
6 Portuguese + Portuguese + Portuguese + Portuguese @ 4.027483
7 Algerian + Southeast_English + Southwest_French + Southwest_French @ 4.038002
8 Southwest_English + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Tunisian @ 4.069424
9 Norwegian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian @ 4.085628
10 Algerian + Southeast_English + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.098444
11 North_Dutch + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian @ 4.116665
12 Orcadian + Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Tunisian @ 4.131027
13 Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian + West_Scottish @ 4.152460
14 Southwest_English + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian @ 4.157734
15 Portuguese + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.158288
16 Southwest_French + Southwest_French + Tunisian + West_Scottish @ 4.162602
17 Southeast_English + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cantabria + Tunisian @ 4.166793
18 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Spanish_Valencia + Tunisian @ 4.182813
19 Portuguese + Portuguese + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Galicia @ 4.190566
20 Danish + Southwest_French + Spanish_Aragon + Tunisian @ 4.201683

[Graham]

Considering he's English, it's far more likely it be Jewish than the other two. Especially considering his Southern provenance.

Always wondered if the reason English score higher East Med. Could be some ancient Jewish thing. Just a hunch though.

[Jackson]

Considering he's English, it's far more likely it be Jewish than the other two. Especially considering his Southern provenance.

Most likely, although nobody in my family gets any full Jewish matches iirc, and on FTdna only i show up as having any Jewish ancestry on myorigins. However, i know quite a lot about my Mum's side of the family going back a number of centuries and the most foreign name/family I've come across is Evans - so it seems if it is recent, they must have taken on an English name and been Anglicized pretty quickly. I haven't found anyone who was Jewish by religion though, at least not yet. 'Tis a mystery. :)

[Longbowman]

Always wondered if the reason English score higher East Med. Could be some ancient Jewish thing. Just a hunch though.

I doubt it (ancient, not recent) but you're not alone in your thinking. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism)

[Longbowman]

Most likely, although nobody in my family gets any full Jewish matches iirc, and on FTdna only i show up as having any Jewish ancestry on myorigins. However, i know quite a lot about my Mum's side of the family going back a number of centuries and the most foreign name/family I've come across is Evans - so it seems if it is recent, they must have taken on an English name and been Anglicized pretty quickly. I haven't found anyone who was Jewish by religion though, at least not yet. 'Tis a mystery. :)

Oh, I doubt you're anything but British, but if you weren't, it'd be more likely that you were Jewish than anything else.

[Graham]

Jackson why do you think that the Iron Age Britons, Anglo Saxon( or Anglo Saxon mixed) individuals barely score East Med? But the modern population do especially down South England.

Something to think about. Normans, Romans, Roman mercenaries, Saxon & Angle differences. The Jewish thing I mentioned.

[Hevo]

Jackson why do you think that the Iron Age Britons, Anglo Saxon( or Anglo Saxon mixed) individuals barely score East Med? But the modern population do especially down South England.

Something to think about. Normans, Romans, Roman mercenaries, Saxon & Angle differences. The Jewish thing I mentioned.

Interesting, so the genetic Roman signature in (South) Britain might be underestimated after all? And perhaps the Normans contributed some East Med too.

[Jackson]

Jackson why do you think that the Iron Age Britons, Anglo Saxon( or Anglo Saxon mixed) individuals barely score East Med? But the modern population do especially down South England.

Something to think about. Normans, Romans, Roman mercenaries, Saxon & Angle differences. The Jewish thing I mentioned.

I think it's mostly Medieval & post Medieval - the same may have happened in the Netherlands and northern parts of Germany as well - as i doubt they were that dissimilar from these Anglo-Saxon examples during the Iron Age. Another possibility is that it's Roman - but that would require both ancient remains from middle of the Roman Occupation of Britain (in the southern lowlands specifically), and it would also require that these Anglo-Saxons are 'pure' or close to pure - that is not very admixed with the natives, for that to be the case.

One thing that would be interesting to know is whether it was primary (that is, Jews or people from the eastern Mediterranean/southern Europe settling in Britain) or whether it was secondary from people who had higher East Med than the native population (which would require larger numbers i would have thought to result in the same increase), in my opinion the former is more reasonable given that we know for example that there were Jewish communities in England in the medieval period and later.

However, given that ancestry is a bit like a wave - for an overall solid 2% increase in East Med across the board would require this admixture to be quite pervasive. During the later Roman Empire there was more of a movement from urban areas to large rural farmsteads than in previous times in which the Romanised areas were probably more restricted to the large towns and cities.

So it wouldn't surprise me if some of these farmsteads were owned and run by much more admixed or perhaps foreign families than some of the other people that worked on them. Perhaps it is both. Perhaps it is also related to the spread of Christianity, as a unifying factor in an area that spanned much of Europe and had it's epicenter in the Eastern Mediterranean?

I don't know, all speculation i suppose. I'd love to see some Urban and Rural Romano-British remains from around AD350 or so, would be quite interesting to see to what extent there was a genetic difference between urban and rural areas in Britain.

One i think i noticed on the K15 is that modern individuals from SE England are pretty much halfway between the Anglo-Saxon and Iron Age samples (e.g in regards to North Sea, Atlantic, Baltic, East Euro), but with a bit more Mediterranean input. On a broader one like MDLP K23b both the Iron Age and Anglo-Saxon samples and the modern ones all look pretty similar to each other, as i guess there are less north-west European specific components.

Also, on the Eurogenes K7 the WHG/ANE/EEF levels are quite similar for all three groups. So to be honest i don't think we have changed all that much from either group, only we have had more gene-flow from southern Europe than either of these groups - which given that they are both part of non-Christian tribal groups at the northern edge of the world frequented by Mediterranean peoples, it is not surprising at all. :)

And given that lowland southern Britain is basically the economic & agricultural powerhouse of any state/group occupying the whole area, and is also the closest part of the Island to the continent, that areas that are much further away from this epicenter retained more older ancestry.

Edit:Sorry if it's difficult to read, my mind did ramble as i was writing.

[Graham]

Here are simliarity from ancient English samples. From the Brit/Irish or Anglo/Celtic New Worlders. :cool:

- K13 -Hinxton #1
3.05 Grace O'Malley
4.64 Rochefaton
5.95 Graham
7.59 Oneeye
7.94 Patches
9.07 Jackson
Hinxton #2
5.74 Graham
6.69 Grace O'Malley
8.72 Rochefaton
11.20 Patches
12.55 Oneeye
14.20 Jackson
Hinxton #3
7.42 Grace O'Malley
7.98 Graham
9.47 Rochefaton
12.15 Patches
12.38 Oneye
14.60 Jackson
Hinxton #4
4.01 Rochefaton
4.44 Grace O'Malley
5.22 Graham
7.38 Patches
8.46 Oneeye
10.05 Jackson

- K15Hinxton #1
4.48 Graham
6.32 Oneeye
6.55 Patches
7.87 Rochefaton
8.50 Grace O'Malley
10.05 Jackson
Hinxton #2
3.36 Graham
7.31 Patches
8.06 Oneeye
8.75 Rochefaton
8.99 Grace O'Malley
11.41 Jackson
Hinxton #3
7.37 Graham
10.17 Rochefaton
10.47 Oneeye
10.90 Patches
12.25 Grace O'Malley
14.95 Jackson
Hinxton #4
5.55 Grace O'Malley
8.56 Patches
9.05 Jackson
11.68 Graham
12.32 Oneeye
14.24 Rochefaton

[Jackson]

I think my Grandmother and Grandfather are closest to these ancient samples, and my mother is the furthest, and me and my Aunt in-between.

[Graham]

I hope Rochefan can get teh spreadsheet for Hinxton 4. I am close looking on K13. Not so much on K15..


Here's Hinxton4. Definate Iron Age Celt. R-L21 Ydna.

K15

North_Sea 34.84
Atlantic 31.87
Baltic 13.9
Eastern_Euro 5.7
West_Med 6.33
West_Asian 4.77
East_Med 0
Red_Sea 0
South_Asian 1.9
Southeast_Asian 0.04
Siberian 0.12
Amerindian 0
Oceanian 0
Northeast_African 0
Sub-Saharan 0.51


K13

North_Atlantic 53.46
Baltic 24.03
West_Med 11.75
West_Asian 6.99
East_Med 0.06
Red_Sea 0
South_Asian 2.15
East_Asian 0.15
Siberian 0.54
Amerindian 0.01
Oceanian 0
Northeast_African 0
Sub-Saharan 0.87

[Hevo]

^^

You can also compare them here.

http://bga101.blogspot.nl/2014_07_01_archive.html

[Rochefaton]

I hope Rochefan can get teh spreadsheet for Hinxton 4. I am close looking on K13. Not so much on K15..

Your cries have not fallen on deaf ears.

Here are the updated K13 (http://www.filedropper.com/ancientbritoraclek13_1) and K15 (http://www.filedropper.com/ancientbritoraclek15v4) spreadsheets that include Hinxton4. Below are my updated results for K13 and K15, respectively:

http://i61.tinypic.com/vrg7jb.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/wckc4i.jpg

Also, there may have been an error with Hinxton3's results in the previous version of the K15 spreadsheet. Either way, it is accurate now.

[Jackson]

Here's my family results using K15:

Me:
Hinxton 1: 10.05
Hinxton 2: 11.41
Hinxton 3: 14.95
Hinxton 4: 9.05

I'm slightly closer to the Briton in this one, but fairly distant to all of them. It doesn't seem that the Britons and Anglo-Saxons were all that different, but the Britons more southern and less purely NW European.

Dad:

Hinxton 1: 10.16
Hinxton 2: 10.71
Hinxton 3: 14.64
Hinxton 4: 10.84

My Dad is pretty equidistant between two of the Anglo-Saxons and one of the Britons but further from one of the Anglo-Saxons.

Paternal Grandfather:

Hinxton 1: 10.42
Hinxton 2: 10.61
Hinxton 3: 14.50
Hinxton 4: 8.80

Noticeably closer to the Briton, i think because he has less med but still a lot of Baltic.

Paternal Grandmother:

Hinxton 1: 8.56
Hinxton 2: 10.15
Hinxton 3: 12.81
Hinxton 4: 8.93

Closest of all my tested family to any of the samples, about equidistant between one of the Anglo-Saxons and one of the Britons.

Mother:

Hinxton 1: 14.98
Hinxton 2: 16.85
Hinxton 3: 19.04
Hinxton 4: 9.76

Significantly closer to the Briton, which makes sense in theory as she has a bit of Welsh and Scottish ancestry, and all of her mother's ancestry is from southern England south of the Thames. Although i think the differences are mainly due to her (and me) having a strong pull towards central Europe (very high Baltic, higher than average West Med and also high West Asian).

Maternal Aunt:

Hinxton 1: 12.05
Hinxton 2: 13.54
Hinxton 3: 16.18
Hinxton 4: 9.4

Similar to my mother, but a bit closer to all of them as she inherited more of the NW-European components.

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It's interesting how Hinxton 3 always stands out a bit from 1 & 2, different familial/tribal grouping perhaps?

It seems to be more of a competition as to who is the most British given that both the Anglo-Saxons and Britons seem like more and less north-western British by modern standards. I wonder what could explain the high Baltic in the Briton compared to the Anglo-Saxon. I would have expected the Anglo-Saxons to have a lot of both, e.g 12% of each - it seems the two components are a lot more evened out in modern NW European populations.

[Jackson]

Just for fun i entered in Ajvide58's scores for comparison using Rochefaton's spreadsheet. That is the forager-hunter-gatherer from Sweden ~5000ybp.

The individual is actually marginally closer to the Iron Age Briton than the Anglo-Saxons funnily enough. Looking at his scores there must have been a major movement from south/south-west Europe into Scandinavia between 5000-2000 ybp, and the East Euro/Baltic swapped over in their dominance. I guess that's pretty consistent with what Polako has been saying, i think. I guess the Iron Age/Anglo-Saxon samples fill in a gap so we can see populations have been gradually moving over the last 5000 years, makes sense.

Hinxton 1: 22.26
Hinxton 2: 22.63
Hinxton 3: 27.76
Hinxton 4: 21.64

Here are the results for Motala-12, 7000ybp Sweden.

Hinxton 1: 30.34
Hinxton 2: 31.32
Hinxton 3: 35.41
Hinxton 4: 31.77

I would do other ones like Ma'lta and Clovis but that's probably just not going to be particularly interesting at all xD.

[Longbowman]

Just for fun i entered in Ajvide58's scores for comparison using Rochefaton's spreadsheet. That is the forager-hunter-gatherer from Sweden ~5000ybp.

The individual is actually marginally closer to the Iron Age Briton than the Anglo-Saxons funnily enough. Looking at his scores there must have been a major movement from south/south-west Europe into Scandinavia between 5000-2000 ybp, and the East Euro/Baltic swapped over in their dominance. I guess that's pretty consistent with what Polako has been saying, i think. I guess the Iron Age/Anglo-Saxon samples fill in a gap so we can see populations have been gradually moving over the last 5000 years, makes sense.

Hinxton 1: 22.26
Hinxton 2: 22.63
Hinxton 3: 27.76
Hinxton 4: 21.64

Here are the results for Motala-12, 7000ybp Sweden.

Hinxton 1: 30.34
Hinxton 2: 31.32
Hinxton 3: 35.41
Hinxton 4: 31.77

I would do other ones like Ma'lta and Clovis but that's probably just not going to be particularly interesting at all xD.

But of course, Gokhem1 was more related to Sardinians than contemporary Swedes.

[Jackson]

But of course, Gokhem1 was more related to Sardinians than contemporary Swedes.

I didn't try Gokhem, but could put that one into the spreadsheet i guess - imagine it will be quite far away from these individuals.

[Graham]

The two R-L21s are the Iron Age Britons. ( reason being the Angles are all women).. That would mean 1 and 4 are the Iron Age Britons. 2,3 and 5 are Angles.

[Rochefaton]

Graham informed me that I uploaded the wrong version of the K13 Oracle spreadsheet last time, so I guess we can all chalk up another fail for the Rocheman. :picard1:

Here is a link to the correct spreadsheet:

http://www.filedropper.com/ancientbritoraclek13v4

[Graham]

Cheers!

It's funny how I score well for both Anglo-Saxon and Iron age Celt There's not that much difference between the two groups.

I'd like to see a viking from the homeland, to compare Because these anglo saxons could have been mixed already with Anglo-Brythonic ancestry, but practiced Anglo culture. before the later Dane and Norman invasions.

K13
Hinxton #1 5.9464152298
Hinxton #2 5.7379873786
Hinxton #3 7.9826795731
Hinxton #4 5.2249876949

[Jackson]

K13 Comparison results for my family:
This makes more sense with 1 & 4 being Britons now, will be interesting to see the results for Hinxton 5.
My Grandmother is not a bad fit for the Iron Age Briton, with a bit more West Med. Maybe she'd be able to pass as a Romano-British person. :P

Me:

Hinxton 1(Briton): 9.07
Hinxton 2(Anglo-Saxon): 14.2
Hinxton 3(Anglo-Saxon): 14.6
Hinxton 4(Briton): 10.05

Father:

Hinxton 1(Briton): 7.86
Hinxton 2(Anglo-Saxon): 12.12
Hinxton 3(Anglo-Saxon): 13.38
Hinxton 4(Briton): 8.66

Paternal Grandfather:

Hinxton 1(Briton): 8.53
Hinxton 2(Anglo-Saxon): 11.67
Hinxton 3(Anglo-Saxon): 12.96
Hinxton 4(Briton): 8.82

Paternal Grandmother:

Hinxton 1(Briton): 5.77
Hinxton 2(Anglo-Saxon): 9.82
Hinxton 3(Anglo-Saxon): 9.91
Hinxton 4(Briton): 5.82

Mother:

Hinxton 1(Briton): 10.98
Hinxton 2(Anglo-Saxon): 17.09
Hinxton 3(Anglo-Saxon): 16.57
Hinxton 4(Briton): 11.71

Maternal Aunt:

Hinxton 1(Briton): 9.46
Hinxton 2(Anglo-Saxon): 15.07
Hinxton 3(Anglo-Saxon): 15.20
Hinxton 4(Briton): 9.59

[Graham]

Apparently the Briton is supposed to be closer to the modern population than the Anglo Saxon. Though they haven't seen people like my Dad and I, drifting off in the North West .. :rolleyes: ( Not so modern viking-celts) lol

Wish I still had that plotting software. COuld have done a pca of everyone. Modern populations and old. doh!

[Jackson]

Apparently the Briton is supposed to be closer to the modern population than the Anglo Saxon. Though they haven't seen people like my Dad and I, drifting off in the North West .. :rolleyes: ( Not so modern viking-celts) lol

Wish I still had that plotting software. COuld have done a pca of everyone. Modern populations and old. doh!

Yeah i guess they mean the modern population of south-central England. Would be awesome to see a PCA of everybody. I used to have XLStat (on trial) but i don't think i could get it again now, i think there are a couple of people on ABF who make them a lot, like EastPole.

Yeah lol. Question is whether the modern population is closer to the Britons because they simply have more ancestry from them, and have not changed much in the last 2000 years, (which more makes sense for people like yourself who's ancestry is from the far fringes of Britain - unless of course ancient people inhabiting Scotland were more Northwestern still than these Anglo-Saxons? Possible i guess) or whether the Anglo-Saxons had a large impact (which to me seems more in line with other aspects of genetics, as well as linguistics and to a certain extent archaeology) but the population has seen some gene-flow from elsewhere between c700 AD and the industrial revolution. Given that most Americans plot with or close to their modern counterparts even if they are descended from people who left during or before the industrial revolution, that to me suggests this change must be either during the Roman period, or in the Medieval and early modern periods). After all, since our Christianisation during the 7th-8th centuries (in a religious sense - Roman Catholic conversion) and since the Norman conquest many of our main links have been with the south, and the same was true during the Roman period for the most part.

I think that provides a possible explanation as to the small changes between the modern population and our Briton and Anglo-Saxon ancestors. Given that f.e using Eurogenes K13 and K15 people like North Germans/Dutch and West Germans are closer to this Iron Age Briton than to the Anglo-Saxon as well (with exceptions i'm sure) that suggests to me that it is a gradual shift that has affected many of the more central/connected parts of northern Europe (e.g lowland Britain, much of Germany, the low countries and northern France) and less so the more remote parts (e.g far Britain, Iceland, most of Scandinavia).

I think to resolve this totally we would need some remains from Roman occupied Britain tested, as well as some from the late Anglo-Saxon period, post-Norman medieval periods, early modern etc. Then we would have a timeline by which we could see if and when changes occurred.

[Rochefaton]

If you compare my results with Hinxton #4 at the K13 level, it seems I'm a super Celt! Even more so than you buggers that stayed back in the homeland. Then at K15, I suddenly turn Germanic. I wonder what it is about those two higher K's and possible different reference samples that cause such a drastic change?

[Graham]

I think K15, is more accurate. it splits up the North West. K13 doesn't have any Scandinavian component otherwise, that could isolate the Viking from the Celt.

The reason why Polako only posts up K15 on his blog also, I think.

[Rochefaton]

I think K15, is more accurate. it splits up the North West. K13 doesn't have any Scandinavian component otherwise, that could isolate the Viking from the Celt.

The reason why Polako only posts up K15 on his blog also.

Ah, that does make sense. Much more than me being more British than the actual British, anyways.

[Graham]

It's good to have a North Sea Cluster. There has been a bond in that area for thousands of years after the Ice Age. Since then all different sorts have came in through South East England.

Likewise folk have come in through Cornwall and up the Atlantic side. The geography is quite different too. Hilly or wet West, flat or sunny East.


Then you have the Angles, Saxons & Danes mostly on the East Coast.

Good to split the British Isles up in such a way.

[Graham]

Lets check out the similarity West Norway, Netherlands to British Isles on both K13 & K15. Whatever one has 1 & 4 closer to Brits and 2 & 3 to Scandos( if slightly). Will be the better run, realistically.

[Jackson]

Lets check out the similarity West Norway, Netherlands to British Isles on both K13 & K15. Whatever one has 1 & 4 closer to Brits and 2 & 3 to Scandos( if slightly). Will be the better run, realistically.

Good idea!

[Graham]

- K15Average Iron Age Brit K15
6.87 Ireland
6.99 West Scot
7.08 Orkney
7.47 North Netherlands
7.71 South East England
7.78 Iceland
8.66 Cornwall
9.91 West Norway

Average Anglo Saxon K15
7.37 Orkney
9.23 West Norway
9.96 West Scot
10.23 Danish
10.28 North Netherlands
10.28 Iceland
11.13 Ireland
11.48 South East England
12.41 Cornwall

[Jackson]

- K15Average Iron Age Brit K15
6.87 Ireland
6.99 West Scot
7.08 Orkney
7.47 North Netherlands
7.71 South East England
7.78 Iceland
8.66 Cornwall
9.91 West Norway

Average Anglo Saxon K15
7.37 Orkney
9.23 West Norway
9.96 West Scot
10.23 Danish
10.28 North Netherlands
10.28 Iceland
11.13 Ireland
11.48 South East England
12.41 Cornwall

Now you see that makes me think it is more likely the latter scenario i mentioned (England moving back into the position of the Iron Age Britons later on in the medieval period & later), unless the northern Netherlands is made up of Iron Age Brits in large part. It doesn't seem to reflect much of an East/West divide in Britain during the Iron Age as well given that Ireland & Western Scotland are top of the list, and Cornwall not that far away.

[Alessio]

I have several North Dutch kitnumbers for you to compare if you'd like.


- K15Average Iron Age Brit K15
6.87 Ireland
6.99 West Scot
7.08 Orkney
7.47 North Netherlands
7.71 South East England
7.78 Iceland
8.66 Cornwall
9.91 West Norway

Average Anglo Saxon K15
7.37 Orkney
9.23 West Norway
9.96 West Scot
10.23 Danish
10.28 North Netherlands
10.28 Iceland
11.13 Ireland
11.48 South East England
12.41 Cornwall

[Graham]

Managed to get the charts rocking. Found something that could do it. At last.

For K13. West Norway, I couldn't see it there. The other populations I picked for the pca( it's best to get the right populations in for the map)

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/pca_zps52c9e725.jpg

Hinxton 1 and 4, the iron age Celts Studies said were closer to the modern population, & Polakos K13 is correct on that.

[Jackson]

Lol 2 & 3 are just super-northwestern European by modern standards.

Would you be able to put some more of my family member's in there for interest's sake?
Could just do it once though as they will clutter the PCA up.

Dad:

North_Atlantic 48.80%
Baltic 24.83%
West_Med 12.85%
West_Asian 3.39%
East_Med 6.09%
Red_Sea 1.93%
South_Asian 0.86%
East_Asian 0.49%
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.76%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Paternal Grandfather:

North_Atlantic 49.50%
Baltic 25.86%
West_Med 10.92%
West_Asian 4.47%
East_Med 7.21%
Red_Sea 0.08%
South_Asian 1.02%
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.87%
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.07%
Sub-Saharan -


Paternal Grandmother:

North_Atlantic 51.52%
Baltic 21.56%
West_Med 15.26%
West_Asian 6.25%
East_Med 1.59%
Red_Sea 1.78%
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.59%
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.22%
Oceanian 0.22%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Mother:

North_Atlantic 42.77%
Baltic 24.43%
West_Med 14.55%
West_Asian 8.96%
East_Med 6.15%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.73%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.78%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.63%


Aunt:

North_Atlantic 45.59%
Baltic 23.25%
West_Med 16.53%
West_Asian 6.10%
East_Med 4.73%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 2.12%
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.15%
Amerindian 0.95%
Oceanian 0.46%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.12%

[Graham]

Lol 2 & 3 are just super-northwestern European by modern standards.

They are just kinda inbred, so drift off. Giving that misleading appearance imo, but ye gotta figure where the drift comes fae. :P

K15 might look better.

[Rochefaton]

Here are the final versions of the K13 (http://www.filedropper.com/ancientbritoraclek13v5) and K15 (http://www.filedropper.com/ancientbritoraclek15v5) Oracle spreadsheets. They now include all 5 of the Hinxton samples. Here are my latest results:

http://i58.tinypic.com/5z3vk.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/28mpmk8.jpg

So, which ones are the Iron Age samples and which are from the Anglo-Saxon period? We know that 4 is likely an Iron Age Celt, but which is the other one?

[Jackson]

Here are the final versions of the K13 (http://www.filedropper.com/ancientbritoraclek13v5) and K15 (http://www.filedropper.com/ancientbritoraclek15v5) Oracle spreadsheets. They now include all 5 of the Hinxton samples. Here are my latest results:

http://i58.tinypic.com/5z3vk.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/28mpmk8.jpg

So, which ones are the Iron Age samples and which are from the Anglo-Saxon period? We know that 4 is likely an Iron Age Celt, but which is the other one?

1 & 4 are Celts, 2, 3 and 5 are Anglo-Saxon as far as i know.

Thanks a lot for the spreadsheets by the way!

[Rochefaton]

1 & 4 are Celts, 2, 3 and 5 are Anglo-Saxon as far as i know.

Thanks a lot for the spreadsheets by the way!

Numbers 1 and 4 look similar at K13, but at K15 it would appear they are very different. I didn't do any comparisons between the samples after I added the 5th one, so I'm not sure what to think really, but I'm most similar to Hinxton #1 at K15 and very different than #4.

[Jackson]

Interesting to see Hinxton 5 has some East Med, and her Baltic is very high for British standards. Is this an Anglo-Saxon or a Celt? Her mediterranean values seem more in line with the Celts, and the NW European stuff - but perhaps the Baltic makes up for it? Maybe this lady is an Anglicized Briton, or just not severely inbred? Hinxton 5 looks within close-ish range of the modern population to a certain extent. Certainly looks like 2 & 3 are the outliers.

Mine:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 9.07
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 14.2
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 14.6
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 10.05
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 7.46

Father:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 7.86
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 12.12
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 13.38
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 8.66
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 4.87

Paternal Grandfather:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 8.53
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 11.67
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 12.96
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 8.82
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 5.91

Paternal Grandmother:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 5.77
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 9.82
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 9.91
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 5.82
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 9.83
Interestingly my Grandmother (who usually comes out as the most western/southwestern on genetic tests) seems to be equidistant from all the Anglo-Saxons and closer to the Iron Age Britons.

Mother:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 10.98
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 17.09
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 16.57
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 11.71
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 11.45

Aunt:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 9.46
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 15.07
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 15.20
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 9.59
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 9.46

[Rochefaton]

According to Felix, Hinxton #5 was inbred. Her parents were half siblings.

[Jackson]

K15 Edition:
We're all closest to Hinxton 5 by a significant margin.
Mine:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 10.05
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 11.41
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 14.95
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 9.04
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 7.52

Father:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 10.16
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 10.71
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 14.64
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 10.84
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 7.32

Paternal Grandfather:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 10.42
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 10.61
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 14.50
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 8.80
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 6.34

Paternal Grandmother:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 9.30
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 10.42
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 13.79
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 9.94
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 8.14


Mother:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 14.98
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 16.85
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 19.04
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 9.76
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 10.62

Aunt:
Hinxton 1 (Iron Age Briton): 12.05
Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon): 13.54
Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon): 16.18
Hinxton 4 (Iron Age Briton): 9.45
Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon): 8.25

[Rochefaton]

Hinxton's 4 and 5 look like they might be the Celts judging from the K15 run.

[Jackson]

According to Felix, Hinxton #5 was inbred. Her parents were half siblings.

Interesting stuff, thanks.
So Hinxton 2, 3 and 5 are all inbred but 4 isn't, and i guess we don't know about 1.
Lots of inbreeding in those days lol, only found a couple of cases of cousin marriage in my own family, although that was a couple of centuries ago.

[Rochefaton]

When comparing Hinxton5 to the others, this is what we get:

#1 13.28
#2 13.72
#3 18.04
#4 7.06

[Jackson]

When comparing Hinxton5 to the others, this is what we get:

#1 13.28
#2 13.72
#3 18.04
#4 7.06

It makes much more sense that 4 & 5 are Britons looking at this. It's interesting that their Baltic was so high compared to the Anglo-Saxons, when they are further away geographically (although perhaps not genetically) from it's modern epicenter.

Looks like Hinxton 5 lived to be very old, says 100+ on Felix's blog although i don't know how accurate that form of measurement is. She also had the same eyes that i do. :P

[Rochefaton]

It makes much more sense that 4 & 5 are Britons looking at this. It's interesting that their Baltic was so high compared to the Anglo-Saxons, when they are further away geographically (although perhaps not genetically) from it's modern epicenter.

Looks like Hinxton 5 lived to be very old, says 100+ on Felix's blog although i don't know how accurate that form of measurement is. She also had the same eyes that i do. :P

The Baltic component may be picking up WHG-like ancestry which peaks around the Baltic today. Hinxton's 1, 2 and 3 have much less of the Baltic component than 4 and 5, but they have far more Eastern Euro and West Asian. Which makes me think they have more Corded Ware influence than 4 and 5, which makes it even more likely 1, 2, and 3 are from the Anglo-Saxon period.

[Jackson]

The Baltic component may be picking up WHG-like ancestry which peaks around the Baltic today. Hinxton's 1, 2 and 3 have much less of the Baltic component than 4 and 5, but they have far more Eastern Euro and West Asian. Which makes me think they have more Corded Ware influence than 4 and 5, which makes it even more likely 1, 2, and 3 are from the Anglo-Saxon period.

It's interesting though if you look at the ANE_K7, they all seem to be within a similar range although 5 has the most WHG.

Hinxton 5
ANE 13.69%
ASE 3.03%
WHG-UHG 68.04%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.08%
East_African 1.88%
ENF 13.28%

Hinxton 4
ANE 16.62%
ASE 1.52%
WHG-UHG 65.59%
East_Eurasian 0.79%
West_African 0.17%
East_African 1.09%
ENF 14.22%

Hinxton 3
ANE 15.76%
ASE 2.13%
WHG-UHG 64.27%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.51%
East_African 1.53%
ENF 15.79%

Hinxton 2
ANE 17.34%
ASE 1.39%
WHG-UHG 67.37%
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.08%
East_African 1.03%
ENF 12.79%

Hinxton 1
ANE 16.04
ASE 0.02
WHG-UHG 66.95
East_Eurasian 0
West_African 0.23
East_African 0
ENF 16.76

[Rochefaton]

According to David, only the ANE scores from the K7 are accurate, as that is what the run was designed to isolate, and the rest should be viewed with caution.

[Jackson]

According to David, only the ANE scores from the K7 are accurate, as that is what the run was designed to isolate, and the rest should be viewed with caution.

I think that is the one i posted?

I was just reading some of the comments on his blog, and apparently it is confirmed the two males (1 and 4) are the Britons and the 3 females from the Anglo-Saxon period. Although it's quite late a context for it, perhaps Hinxton 5 is an Anglo-Saxon female but of largely British heritage?

[Rochefaton]

I think that is the one i posted?

I was just reading some of the comments on his blog, and apparently it is confirmed the two males (1 and 4) are the Britons and the 3 females from the Anglo-Saxon period. Although it's quite late a context for it, perhaps Hinxton 5 is an Anglo-Saxon female but of largely British heritage?

Wow, never would have guessed that given their K15 scores. Who supposedly "confirmed" this?

[Rochefaton]

I finally got confirmation that the two males, #1 and #4, are in fact the Iron Age samples.


When archaeological digs revealed ancient graves on the grounds of the Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute in Hinxton, England, researchers there took it as a sign that they should analyze the ancient people’s DNA. Two skeletons were from men who were buried about 2,000 years ago. The other three skeletons were from women who died about 1,300 years ago, not long after the Anglo-Saxons invaded Britain.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/anglo-saxons-left-language-maybe-not-genes-modern-britons

That would mean the K13 run is more accurate when comparing the Hinxton samples, and that I may truly be more British than the British...

What a strange world we live in.

[Graham]

K13
Hinxton #1 5.9464152298
Hinxton #2 5.7379873786
Hinxton #3 7.9826795731
Hinxton #4 5.2249876949
Hinxton #5 7.8483966971

[Hevo]

Now you see that makes me think it is more likely the latter scenario i mentioned (England moving back into the position of the Iron Age Britons later on in the medieval period & later), unless the northern Netherlands is made up of Iron Age Brits in large part. It doesn't seem to reflect much of an East/West divide in Britain during the Iron Age as well given that Ireland & Western Scotland are top of the list, and Cornwall not that far away.

Northern Netherlandic samples are basically from the North of the Rhine and they are a generally mixture of Frisians/Saxons/(Salian) Franks so it would be interesting to compare the Hinxton samples to Frisians or people from Groningen.

[Jackson]

Northern Netherlandic samples are basically from the North of the Rhine and they are a generally mixture of Frisians/Saxons/(Salian) Franks so it would be interesting to compare the Hinxton samples to Frisians or people from Groningen.

I was being a little sarcastic there, it just seems that Hinxton 2 & 3 are even further from places on the continent located close to where they are supposed to have come from than the Iron Age Britons, or number 5 which is also an Anglo-Saxon.

I looked at the original EUtest and i think it's quite interesting, the North Central Euro scores are still clearly high but not as exagerrated in the K15 V2, which is maybe partly why (along with the very low Baltic, which is also not as apparent in this one) a couple of them in particular stick off on their own?

Perhaps their results are a bit all over the place and extreme in some cases because we are used to viewing the modern population, which is much more outbred (within the British Isles and nearby areas) and so the mixtures are a lot more evened out?

Hinxton 5 is pretty close to most of my family in this one, we just have more East Euro and less Baltic. Would be interesting to see Hinxton 1's results in this to see if he also got more Atlantic than north central Euro.

Hinxton 2 (Anglo-Saxon)

SOUTH_BALTIC 12.40%
EAST_EURO 12.91%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 36.34%
ATLANTIC 28.71%
WEST_MED 6.13%
EAST_MED 0.58%
WEST_ASIAN 0.81%
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.84%
EAST_AFRICAN 0.60%
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN 0.31%
WEST_AFRICAN 0.36%

# Population (source) Distance
1 DK 7.29
2 NO 8
3 South_&_Central_Swedish 8.84
4 English 9.05
5 Orcadian 9.39
6 Scottish 9.84
7 IE 10.01
8 NL 10.53
9 Cornish 11.11
10 West_&_Central_German 11.59
11 North_Swedish 12.14
12 FR 19.17
13 AT 19.39
14 South_Finnish 20.98
15 HU 24.34
16 PT 25.81
17 East_Finnish 26.06
18 PL 26.22
19 ES 26.33
20 Serbian 26.57
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.3% DK + 9.7% Scottish @ 7.26
2 100% DK + 0% AJ @ 7.29


Hinxton 3 (Anglo-Saxon)

SOUTH_BALTIC 8.54%
EAST_EURO 8.21%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 32.06%
ATLANTIC 31.82%
WEST_MED 8.61%
EAST_MED 0.36%
WEST_ASIAN 8.48%
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 0.38%
EAST_AFRICAN 1.18%
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.36%

# Population (source) Distance
1 IE 7.44
2 Scottish 7.48
3 Orcadian 8.03
4 English 8.78
5 Cornish 9.29
6 NL 10.7
7 DK 10.72
8 West_&_Central_German 11.71
9 NO 12.07
10 South_&_Central_Swedish 13.2
11 FR 16.08
12 North_Swedish 16.97
13 AT 19.38
14 PT 22.64
15 ES 22.69
16 HU 24.58
17 French_Basque 24.89
18 South_Finnish 26.08
19 Serbian 26.09
20 North_Italian 26.61

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.2% Scottish + 2.8% GE @ 7.3
2 77.5% Scottish + 22.5% English @ 7.35
3 55.4% IE + 44.6% Scottish @ 7.38
4 97.6% Scottish + 2.4% Lezgin @ 7.39
5 98.8% Scottish + 1.2% Maasai @ 7.41
6 98.8% IE + 1.2% GE @ 7.41
7 99.3% IE + 0.7% Maasai @ 7.42
8 98.9% Scottish + 1.1% Somali @ 7.43
9 99.5% IE + 0.5% Somali @ 7.43
10 91.8% IE + 8.2% English @ 7.43
11 99.6% IE + 0.4% Luhya @ 7.43
12 99.8% IE + 0.2% Yoruba @ 7.44
13 99.6% IE + 0.4% Ethiopian @ 7.44
14 98.6% Scottish + 1.4% Armenian @ 7.44
15 99% Scottish + 1% Ethiopian @ 7.44
16 99.7% IE + 0.3% Lezgin @ 7.44
17 100% IE + 0% AJ @ 7.44


Hinxton 4 (Iron Age)

SOUTH_BALTIC 15.86%
EAST_EURO 7.64%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.33%
ATLANTIC 30.50%
WEST_MED 10.53%
EAST_MED -
WEST_ASIAN 6.52%
MIDDLE_EASTERN -
SOUTH_ASIAN 2.14%
EAST_AFRICAN 0.43%
EAST_ASIAN -
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN -
# Population (source) Distance
1 Orcadian 5.48
2 IE 5.5
3 Scottish 5.56
4 Cornish 6.42
5 English 7.59
6 NL 7.86
7 West_&_Central_German 8.59
8 DK 9.58
9 NO 10.03
10 South_&_Central_Swedish 10.31
11 FR 13.28
12 North_Swedish 14.11
13 AT 14.18
14 HU 18.7
15 ES 20.37
16 PT 20.47
17 South_Finnish 22.09
18 Serbian 22.19
19 PL 23.32
20 French_Basque 23.42
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.6% Scottish + 2.4% South_Indian @ 5.14
2 97.1% Scottish + 2.9% IN @ 5.16
3 97.2% Scottish + 2.8% Gujarati @ 5.16
4 96.9% Scottish + 3.1% Sindhi @ 5.2
5 90.1% Scottish + 9.9% HU @ 5.2
6 97.3% Scottish + 2.7% Bangladeshi @ 5.2
7 98.2% Orcadian + 1.8% South_Indian @ 5.23
8 96.9% Scottish + 3.1% Burusho @ 5.26
9 88.2% Scottish + 11.8% AT @ 5.28
10 98% Orcadian + 2% Gujarati @ 5.28
11 98% Orcadian + 2% IN @ 5.29
12 96.9% Scottish + 3.1% Kalash @ 5.29
13 93.1% Scottish + 6.9% North_Italian @ 5.29
14 97.1% Scottish + 2.9% Balochi @ 5.31
15 97.1% Scottish + 2.9% Brahui @ 5.31
16 98.1% Orcadian + 1.9% Bangladeshi @ 5.31
17 98.4% IE + 1.6% South_Indian @ 5.31
18 88.5% Scottish + 11.5% FR @ 5.33
19 94% Scottish + 6% UA @ 5.33
20 98% Orcadian + 2% Sindhi @ 5.34


Hinxton 5 (Anglo-Saxon)

SOUTH_BALTIC 18.48%
EAST_EURO 7.62%
NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 30.72%
ATLANTIC 28.48%
WEST_MED 9.85%
EAST_MED 2.47%
WEST_ASIAN -
MIDDLE_EASTERN 1.29%
SOUTH_ASIAN -
EAST_AFRICAN -
EAST_ASIAN 0.41%
SIBERIAN -
WEST_AFRICAN 0.66%
# Population (source) Distance
1 English 7.53
2 Orcadian 8.08
3 NL 8.14
4 Cornish 8.4
5 DK 8.43
6 South_&_Central_Swedish 8.67
7 West_&_Central_German 8.73
8 NO 8.85
9 Scottish 8.91
10 IE 9.26
11 North_Swedish 12.84
12 FR 14.51
13 AT 14.63
14 HU 19.21
15 South_Finnish 20.58
16 PT 21.13
17 ES 21.53
18 PL 22.44
19 Serbian 22.77
20 EE 24.22
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.5% English + 9.5% LIT @ 6.93
2 89.5% English + 10.5% EE @ 7.03
3 65.5% English + 34.5% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.05
4 83.5% South_&_Central_Swedish + 16.5% French_Basque @ 7.08
5 52.5% Cornish + 47.5% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.13
6 92.1% English + 7.9% Belorussian @ 7.22
7 93% English + 7% Northwest_Russian @ 7.24
8 91.9% English + 8.1% PL @ 7.3
9 73.5% English + 26.5% NO @ 7.32
10 93.5% English + 6.5% UA @ 7.36
11 92.6% English + 7.4% South_Finnish @ 7.38
12 52.3% South_&_Central_Swedish + 47.7% Scottish @ 7.38
13 88.5% English + 11.5% North_Swedish @ 7.41
14 94.9% English + 5.1% West_Russian @ 7.42
15 79.4% English + 20.6% Scottish @ 7.43
16 58.3% Orcadian + 41.7% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 7.43
17 74.4% English + 25.6% Orcadian @ 7.46
18 96.4% English + 3.6% Ukrainian-Russian @ 7.47
19 96.7% English + 3.3% East_Finnish @ 7.49
20 84.8% English + 15.2% DK @ 7.5

[Jackson]

I finally got confirmation that the two males, #1 and #4, are in fact the Iron Age samples.



https://www.sciencenews.org/article/anglo-saxons-left-language-maybe-not-genes-modern-britons

That would mean the K13 run is more accurate when comparing the Hinxton samples, and that I may truly be more British than the British...

What a strange world we live in.

That's pretty cool though. It is the only one that for yourself shows two groups. For my family on K13 we must some sort of intermediate, as we're closer to 5, then to 1 and 4, then 2 and 3. Although my grandmother i think has similar values to yourself and is closer to 1 and 4 by a similar margin.As far as i know her great-grandparents are from - 2/8 London (not sure where they come from before that) 1/8 Hertfordshire 1/8 Devon, 2/8 Cheshire 2/8 Staffordshire (not sure where her parents come from yet, but probably somewhere similar), so predominantly western and north-western England.

[Jackson]

I had some thoughts on the K13 and the Hinxton samples on Anthrogenica:

What does anyone make of my thoughts on Anthrogenica? A connection between Hinxton 1 & 4 and SW English (largely Iron Age heritage?), Scottish, Irish on one hand and Germanic speakers on the other hand in how they interact with the Anglo-Saxon samples. And the most interesting bit is that the Orcadians (A mixture of Norwegian and Scottish) don't fit easily in either group...

I should say it's using Eurogenes K13 which reliably groups the Britons and Anglo-Saxons as Rochefaton pointed out.


It's easier to visualise with a bar chart, from the populations i posted only the SW English and the Hinxton 1 & 4 samples share some sort similarity in who they are closest to, although the SW English look halfway between the Celts and the SE English. The Icelanders, North Dutch, Danes, North Germans all have the same relationship in who they are closest to - 1, 4 and 5 - but it's only the Iron Age Britons, SW English, Irish who are markedly more distant to all three Anglo-Saxons. It's a shame there is no Welsh average. It seems to split up the Germanic speakers and Celtic 'speakers' quite neatly.

Irish:
Hinxton 1(Briton): 3.06
Hinxton 2(AS): 7.03
Hinxton 3(AS): 8.16
Hinxton 4(Briton): 2.71
Hinxton 5(AS): 8.21

Western Scottish:
Hinxton 1(Briton): 3.98
Hinxton 2(AS): 6.34
Hinxton 3(AS): 7.81
Hinxton 4(Briton): 2.97
Hinxton 5(AS): 8.24

Swedes:
Hinxton 1(Briton): 7.96
Hinxton 2(AS): 12.97
Hinxton 3(AS): 14.62
Hinxton 4(Briton): 9.48
Hinxton 5(AS): 7.43

Norwegians:
Hinxton 1(Briton): 5.06
Hinxton 2(AS): 9.46
Hinxton 3(AS): 11.29
Hinxton 4(Briton): 6.30
Hinxton 5(AS): 6.49

Orcadians:
Hinxton 1(Briton): 4.49
Hinxton 2(AS): 8.26
Hinxton 3(AS): 9.83
Hinxton 4(Briton): 4.12
Hinxton 5(AS): 6.57

So in the camp of who is equidistant to 2, 3 and 5 and close to 1 and 4 we have:
Hinxton1 (Briton)
Hinxton4 (Briton)
SW English (Probably predominantly Celtic in ancestry?)
Irish
West Scottish

And in the camp of who is roughly equidistant between 1, 4 and 5 but further from 2 and 3 we have:
SE English
Icelanders
Danes
North Dutch
North German
Swedes (Albeit further from Hinxton 4 than the others)
Norwegians

And inbetween the two we have:
Orcadians (A mixture of Scottish and Norwegian)
SW English could possibly go in this group, they are between this group and the Celtic group.
To me this makes a lot more sense now...

[Graham]

Jackson you asked me to put family in. :) Hinxton 5 looks like your proper Anglo-Saxon. Sitting right in between North Germany & Denmark is perfect.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map2_zps9920598b.jpg~originalhttp://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map1_zps8889f52c.jpg

[Jackson]

Jackson you asked me to put family in. :) Hinxton 5 looks like your proper Anglo-Saxon. Sitting right in between North Germany & Denmark is perfect.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map2_zps9920598b.jpg~originalhttp://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map1_zps8889f52c.jpg

Cheers for that! :)

Yeah it does make more sense. Btw did you read one of my previous posts? There's a connection between the distances certain modern populations have to 1, 4 and 5, and it groups Ireland, Western Scotland and the Iron Age samples together. Then there's an intermediate group in which the SW English and the Orcadians go, and then another group where the Danes, Icelandic, North Dutch, North Germans, Swedes, Norwegians and SE English go. Basically the Celtic group (including iron age samples) are fairly close to 1 and 4 only, and distant from 2, 3 and 5, while the latter group is close to 1, 4 and 5 about equally, and further from 2 and 3. And the SW English and Orcadians are in-between the two. I guess it's reflected in this PCA too, but it was quite fascinating to see the connection was apparently so clear-cut, at least for NW Europe. That is using K13.

Edit: Also 1 and 4 are distant from all 3, so Hinxton 5 is clearly not of Iron Age British descent i would have thought. I guess there were just markedly different types of Anglo-Saxons, or 2 & 3 were from a very isolated community or something?

[Jackson]

Looks like my Grandfather is quite close to AS5 in the PCA, here's a comparison of their scores in the K15 and K13. Main difference is in the K15, as my Grandfather has a chunk of east med where as AS5 only has 1%. She has more West Med than my grandfather though, but overall my grandfather is a bit more Mediterranean. I'd say AS5 is quite close to the modern population, just with more Baltic and less Med, hence the north-eastern shift compared to the average now.

K15:

AS5:
North_Sea 35.51%
Atlantic 28.94%
Baltic 16.16%
Eastern_Euro 7.49%
West_Med 8.23%
West_Asian -
East_Med 0.95%
Red_Sea 0.71%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.71%
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.29%

Grandfather:
North_Sea 37.70%
Atlantic 25.81%
Baltic 13.72%
Eastern_Euro 8.22%
West_Med 7.26%
West_Asian 2.22%
East_Med 4.19%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.69%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.19%
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

K13:

AS5:
North_Atlantic 50.44%
Baltic 28.30%
West_Med 12.44%
West_Asian 0.73%
East_Med 4.42%
Red_Sea 1.03%
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.95%
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.69%

Grandfather:
North_Atlantic 49.50%
Baltic 25.86%
West_Med 10.92%
West_Asian 4.47%
East_Med 7.21%
Red_Sea 0.08%
South_Asian 1.02%
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.87%
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.07%
Sub-Saharan -

[Jackson]

On the mixed mode they are fairly similar.

K15:

AS5:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Dutch 5.83
2 Irish 5.94
3 Danish 6.49
4 West_Scottish 6.6
5 North_German 6.68
6 Southeast_English 6.71
7 Southwest_English 7.23
8 Swedish 8
9 Norwegian 8
10 Orcadian 8.35
11 West_Norwegian 9
12 South_Dutch 9.43
13 West_German 10.62
14 North_Swedish 10.83
15 East_German 12.28
16 French 13.56
17 Southwest_Finnish 14.12
18 Austrian 16.5
19 Hungarian 16.79
20 Finnish 17.51
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.5% Swedish + 19.5% French_Basque @ 4.25
2 87.8% Irish + 12.2% Lithuanian @ 4.54
3 85.7% Irish + 14.3% Estonian @ 4.69
4 87.5% Irish + 12.5% Belorussian @ 4.77
5 85.5% Irish + 14.5% Polish @ 4.8
6 86.1% Irish + 13.9% Ukrainian @ 4.83
7 88% Irish + 12% Estonian_Polish @ 4.83
8 86.1% Irish + 13.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.84
9 85.8% Irish + 14.2% South_Polish @ 4.9
10 86.1% West_Scottish + 13.9% Lithuanian @ 4.9
11 85.6% Irish + 14.4% La_Brana-1 @ 4.94
12 88.1% Irish + 11.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.96
13 89.4% Irish + 10.6% Southwest_Russian @ 5.09
14 81.3% Irish + 18.7% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.1
15 86.3% Southeast_English + 13.7% Lithuanian @ 5.11
16 84.8% Irish + 15.2% Finnish @ 5.13
17 85.7% West_Scottish + 14.3% Belorussian @ 5.14
18 89.9% Irish + 10.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.16
19 83.4% West_Scottish + 16.6% Polish @ 5.17
20 79.3% Irish + 20.7% East_German @ 5.18

Grandfather:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Dutch 3.32
2 Danish 4.18
3 Norwegian 4.97
4 Swedish 5.37
5 North_German 5.48
6 Irish 5.63
7 Southeast_English 5.66
8 West_Scottish 5.74
9 West_Norwegian 5.9
10 Orcadian 6.45
11 Southwest_English 6.5
12 West_German 7.23
13 South_Dutch 8.58
14 North_Swedish 9.05
15 East_German 12.26
16 French 12.75
17 Southwest_Finnish 14.32
18 Hungarian 15.95
19 Austrian 16.52
20 Finnish 17.23
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% Swedish + 48.3% Southeast_English @ 2.76
2 80.9% North_Dutch + 19.1% West_German @ 2.93
3 95.5% North_Dutch + 4.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.98
4 97.4% North_Dutch + 2.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.98
5 56.4% Swedish + 43.6% Southwest_English @ 2.98
6 97% North_Dutch + 3% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.99
7 97.8% North_Dutch + 2.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 3
8 97% North_Dutch + 3% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.02
9 97.6% North_Dutch + 2.4% Samaritan @ 3.02
10 92% North_Dutch + 8% Hungarian @ 3.03
11 85.1% Swedish + 14.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.03
12 97.7% North_Dutch + 2.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.03
13 96.9% North_Dutch + 3.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.04
14 97.6% North_Dutch + 2.4% Palestinian @ 3.04
15 96.3% North_Dutch + 3.7% Greek @ 3.05
16 96.8% North_Dutch + 3.2% South_Italian @ 3.06
17 97.5% North_Dutch + 2.5% Cyprian @ 3.06
18 97.3% North_Dutch + 2.7% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.06
19 84.7% Swedish + 15.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.07
20 97.8% North_Dutch + 2.2% Egyptian @ 3.08

K13:

AS5:

1 North_Dutch 5.51
2 Danish 5.66
3 Norwegian 5.85
4 Orcadian 5.94
5 Southeast_English 6.3
6 Swedish 6.62
7 North_German 6.98
8 Irish 7.29
9 West_Scottish 7.34
10 Southwest_English 7.61
11 South_Dutch 9.8
12 West_German 10.83
13 North_Swedish 11.22
14 East_German 13.23
15 Austrian 13.58
16 French 15.01
17 Hungarian 17.85
18 Southwest_Finnish 18.77
19 Spanish_Cataluna 21.76
20 South_Polish 21.82

1 69.7% Southeast_English + 30.3% North_Swedish @ 4.42
2 80.7% Southeast_English + 19.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.55
3 52.5% Southeast_English + 47.5% Swedish @ 4.63
4 62.9% Southwest_English + 37.1% North_Swedish @ 4.65
5 85.1% Southeast_English + 14.9% La_Brana-1 @ 4.66
6 75.2% Southwest_English + 24.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.71
7 86% Southeast_English + 14% Estonian @ 4.71
8 85.3% Southeast_English + 14.7% Finnish @ 4.71
9 84.5% Swedish + 15.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.78
10 86.3% Swedish + 13.7% French_Basque @ 4.8
11 87.3% Southeast_English + 12.7% East_Finnish @ 4.85
12 88% Norwegian + 12% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.86
13 87.2% Norwegian + 12.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.86
14 88.1% Southeast_English + 11.9% Lithuanian @ 4.87
15 87.3% Norwegian + 12.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.87
16 87.3% Norwegian + 12.7% Southwest_French @ 4.89
17 87.7% Norwegian + 12.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.91
18 81.5% Southwest_English + 18.5% Estonian @ 4.91
19 80.6% Southwest_English + 19.4% Finnish @ 4.91
20 88.7% Orcadian + 11.3% Belorussian @ 4.92

Grandfather:

1 Danish 3.58
2 North_Dutch 4.06
3 Southeast_English 4.33
4 North_German 4.44
5 Orcadian 4.93
6 Norwegian 5.78
7 Irish 6.31
8 West_Scottish 6.43
9 Southwest_English 6.86
10 South_Dutch 7.15
11 Swedish 7.22
12 West_German 7.7
13 Austrian 12.08
14 North_Swedish 12.24
15 East_German 12.54
16 French 12.86
17 Hungarian 16.25
18 Southwest_Finnish 19.9
19 Spanish_Cataluna 20.22
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 21.46

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95% Danish + 5% Italian_Jewish @ 2.63
2 94.6% Danish + 5.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.67
3 93% Danish + 7% Tuscan @ 2.71
4 95.3% Danish + 4.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.71
5 95.2% Danish + 4.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.72
6 95.6% Danish + 4.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.73
7 94.2% Danish + 5.8% West_Sicilian @ 2.77
8 95.7% Danish + 4.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.77
9 92.1% Danish + 7.9% North_Italian @ 2.79
10 96.8% Danish + 3.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.79
11 96.4% Danish + 3.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.8
12 95.1% Danish + 4.9% South_Italian @ 2.84
13 96.6% Danish + 3.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.85
14 96.6% Danish + 3.4% Samaritan @ 2.86
15 91.4% Danish + 8.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.86
16 94.3% Danish + 5.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.86
17 95% Danish + 5% East_Sicilian @ 2.88
18 96.3% Danish + 3.7% Cyprian @ 2.88
19 91.4% Danish + 8.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.88
20 85.7% Danish + 14.3% French @ 2.9

[Graham]

Yeah, noted that already. It falls into line, with what they said about Iron age being closer to modern. Anglo saxon( ex 5) not being like any modern Population. And also Ireland, West Scotland show little Germanic influence on PoBI.


I think 2 & 3 are a mix of Iron age & Anglo saxon who kept to their own & drift on the map off from everyone. Number 5 was from the proper anglo-saxon community, perhaps born outside England even.

[Jackson]

Yeah, noted that already. It falls into line, with what they said about Iron age being closer to modern. Anglo saxon( ex 5) not being like any modern Population. And also Ireland, West Scotland show little Germanic influence on PoBI.


I think 2 & 3 are a mix of Iron age & Anglo saxon who kept to their own & drift on the map off from everyone. Number 5 was from the proper anglo-saxon community, perhaps born outside England even.

Hopefully we should find out more about their archaeological context in the paper, might be the only way to know for sure.

Edit: I think Iceland is important in this, as i don't think they have much in the way of change genetically in the last 1000 years? So if the modern Icelandic people are close to both 1, 4 and 5 - i'm not sure where that would put 2 and 3.

[Graham]

Iceland is a mix of some irish/Scottish(Pictish) & Norse like the Faroe Islands. Irish monks settled there & the slaves went there. There should be great similarity with another mix, Western Norway.

[Jackson]

Iceland is a mix of some irish/Scottish(Pictish) & Norse like the Faroe Islands. Irish monks settled there & the slaves went there. There should be great similarity with another mix, Western Norway.

Are you able to make a PCA for K13, to see how different the two runs are?

[Grace O'Malley]

A bit egocentric but I've had a few drinks. Am I close to Hinxton 1 and does that mean he is Celt?

[Graham]

Are you able to make a PCA for K13, to see how different the two runs are?

The last one was K13. Here is K15. Could add some folk again if you want.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zpsb37a6ca1.jpg

Hinxton 5, is in same place again. Right in the auld homeland. Hinx 2 & 3 more North with North Sea cluster working more. You can see a better line with this to Norway & Sweden

[Jackson]

The last one was K13. Here is K15. Could add some folk again if you want.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zpsb37a6ca1.jpg

Hinxton 5, is in same place again. Right in the auld homeland. Hinx 2 & 3 more North with North Sea cluster working more. You can see a better line with this to Norway & Sweden

Sure yeah that would be great. Thanks for running it again. It's just good to visualize the differences that you can sea numerically i guess. If it's a bother going back to get all the K13 scores don't worry about it.

I can post them again if you like though.

[Jackson]

A bit egocentric but I've had a few drinks. Am I close to Hinxton 1 and does that mean he is Celt?

Yeah, Hinxton 1 and 4 are Iron Age Britons from modern Cambridgeshire. They, along with one of the Anglo-Saxon samples, are close to modern British people - but of course Irish and Scottish people are generally closer to 1 and 4 than others. Although, the K13 shows 4 very close to southern English people as well which is interesting.

[Graham]

Jackson the software is being a fucking bastard and fuckin' up everything a type. When a fuckin' type something, something fuckin's gets deleted or it's a double.

But anyhow. Best I can do the now.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/jackson_zps9b897caa.jpg

[Jackson]

Jackson the software is being a fucking bastard and fuckin' up everything a type. When a fuckin' type something, something fuckin's gets deleted or it's a double.

But anyhow. Best I can do the now.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/jackson_zps9b897caa.jpg

Sounds pretty annoying =S I don't know enough about it to give any advice or anything, you probably know more than me. I did use XLSTAT(trial) for a bit, are you using that or another similar bit of software? Maybe it is just excel being a bitch?

Thanks very much for adding them in! Interesting stuff. :) Think my Gran is a good fit for a lowland Briton. Hinxton 2 and 3 also look a bit more normal on K13 as well, but still like ultra Scando-Celts haha.

[Graham]

It's not Excel I'm using, but I might just use that them cop & paste.

Something I want to do with these fellas. Is to run them on K36. It's a shame we have no pop. averages.

[Jackson]

It's not Excel I'm using, but I might just use that them cop & paste.

Something I want to do with these fellas. Is to run them on K36. It's a shame we have no pop. averages.

Ahh that would be great. I think EUtest v1 is not bad as well, although the differences are not as exagerrated.

I think i ran a couple of them, and they seem to have more Fennoscandian and Iberian interestlingly - but yeah without population averages, it's not particularly useful i guess.

[Longbowman]

It's not Excel I'm using, but I might just use that them cop & paste.

Something I want to do with these fellas. Is to run them on K36. It's a shame we have no pop. averages.

Why not open a thread and do one just for TA members?

[Brighton]

K13

Population
North_Atlantic 26.33%
Baltic 7.30%
West_Med 21.52%
West_Asian 6.27%
East_Med 7.74%
Red_Sea 1.35%
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.22%
Siberian 0.64%
Amerindian 26.16%
Oceanian 0.32%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 1.11%

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% French_Basque +25% Karitiana +25% Turkish @ 5.382244

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French_Basque + Karitiana + Southwest_French + Turkish @ 4.715637
2 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Karitiana + Southwest_French @ 4.892834
3 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Karitiana + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.973214
4 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Karitiana + Spanish_Galicia @ 5.036252
5 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Karitiana + Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.082838
6 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Karitiana + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.085763
7 East_Sicilian + French_Basque + Karitiana + Southwest_French @ 5.156027
8 Central_Greek + French_Basque + Karitiana + Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.198211
9 French_Basque + Karitiana + Spanish_Cantabria + Turkish @ 5.235767
10 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Karitiana + Spanish_Galicia @ 5.264471

We've got ancestors from Bourdeaux.. that might explain why "French Basque" keeps showing up in all of the 20 of them?

[Black Wolf]

Here are my own and my family member's results. Sorry if I already posted some of my own earlier but I will again so they are all together. Starting with our K13 results.

Me (25% Italian (Calabria region), 25% Finnish and 50% Irish/British Isles):

Population
North_Atlantic 37.20%
Baltic 27.20%
West_Med 11.37%
West_Asian 7.31%
East_Med 9.84%
Red_Sea 1.40%
South_Asian 1.31%
East_Asian 0.40%
Siberian 1.53%
Amerindian 1.17%
Oceanian 1.15%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.11%

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Austrian @ 4.952848
2 Hungarian @ 6.874353
3 East_German @ 7.222259
4 West_German @ 8.609315
5 South_Dutch @ 10.442238
6 North_German @ 11.654239
7 Serbian @ 12.815403
8 Croatian @ 13.861488
9 French @ 14.154111
10 Danish @ 14.581594
11 Moldavian @ 14.947778
12 North_Dutch @ 15.046827
13 Swedish @ 15.061296
14 Southeast_English @ 15.328060
15 North_Swedish @ 15.700059
16 Orcadian @ 16.450356
17 Norwegian @ 16.463717
18 South_Polish @ 16.735041
19 Romanian @ 17.040255
20 Irish @ 17.676052

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Romanian +50% Swedish @ 2.597715


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +25% Finnish +25% South_Italian @ 1.493063


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Finnish + North_German + Norwegian + South_Italian @ 1.302217
2 Danish + Finnish + North_German + South_Italian @ 1.303737
3 Danish + East_Sicilian + Finnish + North_German @ 1.422701
4 Danish + Finnish + South_Italian + Swedish @ 1.425047
5 Finnish + North_Dutch + North_German + South_Italian @ 1.471302
6 Central_Greek + Danish + Finnish + North_German @ 1.473467
7 Danish + Danish + Finnish + South_Italian @ 1.493063
8 Central_Greek + Danish + Danish + Finnish @ 1.512401
9 Central_Greek + Finnish + North_German + Southeast_English @ 1.543911
10 Finnish + Italian_Abruzzo + Swedish + West_German @ 1.545147
11 Danish + Finnish + Norwegian + South_Italian @ 1.555235
12 Danish + East_Finnish + North_Dutch + South_Italian @ 1.555270
13 Finnish + North_German + North_German + West_Sicilian @ 1.555923
14 Danish + Danish + East_Sicilian + Finnish @ 1.561838
15 Finnish + North_Dutch + South_Italian + Swedish @ 1.571645
16 Central_Greek + Finnish + North_German + Orcadian @ 1.574414
17 East_Sicilian + Finnish + North_Dutch + North_German @ 1.576478
18 Danish + Danish + East_Finnish + South_Italian @ 1.579180
19 Ashkenazi + Finnish + Irish + North_German @ 1.582192
20 North_German + South_Italian + Southwest_Finnish + Swedish @ 1.584966


Mother (100% Irish/British Isles):

Population
North_Atlantic 50.80%
Baltic 23.51%
West_Med 13.86%
West_Asian 7.84%
East_Med 0.53%
Red_Sea 0.21%
South_Asian 0.96%
East_Asian 0.30%
Siberian 0.51%
Amerindian 0.67%
Oceanian 0.58%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.23%

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish @ 2.870205
2 Orcadian @ 3.866131
3 West_Scottish @ 3.891763
4 Southwest_English @ 4.389768
5 North_Dutch @ 5.282102
6 Southeast_English @ 5.705490
7 Danish @ 6.099586
8 Norwegian @ 6.978384
9 North_German @ 7.485162
10 Swedish @ 9.581884
11 South_Dutch @ 9.797255
12 West_German @ 11.237839
13 French @ 15.704298
14 North_Swedish @ 16.601725
15 Austrian @ 16.961594
16 East_German @ 17.199770
17 Hungarian @ 22.429390
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 23.325857
19 Southwest_French @ 23.718222
20 Spanish_Cantabria @ 24.486141

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +50% Irish @ 2.870205


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% Irish +25% Southwest_English @ 2.840638


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 2.840638
2 Irish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 2.870205
3 Irish + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 2.975545
4 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.021177
5 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.088030
6 Irish + Irish + Irish + South_Dutch @ 3.091900
7 Irish + Irish + North_German + Southwest_English @ 3.099749
8 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.109514
9 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 3.117954
10 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southeast_English @ 3.135443
11 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.135867
12 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.193303
13 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 3.196778
14 Irish + Irish + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.210796
15 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.216950
16 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.220981
17 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_Dutch @ 3.226224
18 Danish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.241420
19 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 3.269998
20 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Southwest_English @ 3.291135



Aunt (100% Irish/British Isles) (Mother's Sister):

Population
North_Atlantic 51.71%
Baltic 23.32%
West_Med 11.45%
West_Asian 7.11%
East_Med 3.32%
Red_Sea 0.82%
South_Asian 0.19%
East_Asian 0.46%
Siberian 0.36%
Amerindian 0.28%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.98%

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Irish @ 2.890185
2 West_Scottish @ 3.164493
3 Orcadian @ 3.254462
4 North_Dutch @ 3.783451
5 Danish @ 4.566311
6 Southeast_English @ 4.570040
7 Southwest_English @ 4.669764
8 Norwegian @ 6.078689
9 North_German @ 6.467573
10 Swedish @ 9.186948
11 South_Dutch @ 9.485337
12 West_German @ 10.698596
13 French @ 15.527070
14 North_Swedish @ 16.340950
15 Austrian @ 17.000797
16 East_German @ 17.546225
17 Hungarian @ 22.248770
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 23.462748
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 24.729044
20 Southwest_French @ 24.751436

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Dutch +50% West_Scottish @ 2.614148


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Irish +25% North_German +25% West_Scottish @ 2.540048


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 North_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.389481
2 Irish + North_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.439584
3 North_German + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.453607
4 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.492495
5 North_German + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.534670
6 Irish + North_Dutch + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 2.539186
7 Irish + Irish + North_German + West_Scottish @ 2.540048
8 North_German + Orcadian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.563296
9 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Southeast_English @ 2.569990
10 North_Dutch + Southeast_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.578261
11 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.591788
12 Irish + North_German + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 2.593380
13 West_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.608723
14 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 2.611176
15 Irish + Irish + North_German + Southwest_English @ 2.611461
16 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.614148
17 Irish + North_Dutch + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.616274
18 Danish + Irish + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 2.625833
19 Irish + North_Dutch + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.636668
20 Danish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 2.638788


Father (50% Italian (Calabria region) and 50% Finnish):

Population
North_Atlantic 23.61%
Baltic 28.02%
West_Med 12.33%
West_Asian 7.76%
East_Med 19.95%
Red_Sea 0.95%
South_Asian 1.34%
East_Asian -
Siberian 3.37%
Amerindian 1.82%
Oceanian 0.48%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.36%

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 7.757218
2 Romanian @ 7.869791
3 Bulgarian @ 8.977589
4 Moldavian @ 11.775377
5 Hungarian @ 13.865604
6 Croatian @ 14.298683
7 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.092997
8 Austrian @ 18.586084
9 East_German @ 20.221809
10 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 20.653509
11 South_Polish @ 21.140100
12 Ukrainian @ 21.721012
13 Tuscan @ 22.730139
14 North_Italian @ 22.876276
15 Tatar @ 23.281719
16 West_German @ 23.678722
17 Italian_Abruzzo @ 24.090456
18 Southwest_Russian @ 24.109821
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 24.748037
20 Central_Greek @ 24.844847

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian +50% Italian_Jewish @ 4.265820


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +25% Southwest_Finnish +25% Southwest_Russian @ 3.142936


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Russian @ 3.142936
2 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Finnish + Southwest_Russian @ 3.281038
3 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Southwest_Finnish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.289365
4 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Kargopol_Russian + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.291559
5 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + East_Finnish + South_Polish @ 3.293361
6 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Erzya + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.295416
7 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Finnish + Ukrainian @ 3.325859
8 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Finnish + South_Polish @ 3.328123
9 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Finnish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.449008
10 Ashkenazi + Finnish + Italian_Jewish + Kargopol_Russian @ 3.480164
11 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Erzya + North_Swedish @ 3.481334
12 East_Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.508952
13 Ashkenazi + Finnish + South_Italian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.509112
14 Ashkenazi + Erzya + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.519537
15 Ashkenazi + Estonian + Italian_Jewish + Kargopol_Russian @ 3.525113
16 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + East_Finnish + Ukrainian @ 3.551514
17 East_Finnish + Estonian + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan @ 3.572002
18 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Estonian + South_Polish @ 3.587453
19 Ashkenazi + Finnish + Italian_Jewish + Southwest_Russian @ 3.601097
20 East_Finnish + Estonian_Polish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 3.613744


Uncle (50% Italian (Calabria Region and 50% Finnish) (Father's Brother):


Population
North_Atlantic 26.34%
Baltic 28.21%
West_Med 9.83%
West_Asian 7.43%
East_Med 19.61%
Red_Sea 2.30%
South_Asian 0.10%
East_Asian 1.08%
Siberian 3.16%
Amerindian 1.52%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.43%
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 8.095410
2 Romanian @ 9.736597
3 Bulgarian @ 11.531073
4 Hungarian @ 12.343260
5 Moldavian @ 12.454148
6 Croatian @ 14.127268
7 Austrian @ 16.915089
8 East_German @ 18.700285
9 Greek_Thessaly @ 19.434530
10 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 20.074884
11 South_Polish @ 20.077414
12 Ukrainian @ 21.159962
13 West_German @ 21.809460
14 Tatar @ 23.361311
15 Southwest_Russian @ 23.419905
16 North_Italian @ 23.665991
17 South_Dutch @ 23.775732
18 Tuscan @ 23.868586
19 French @ 24.018776
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 24.035822

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Finnish @ 3.717424


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Tuscan @ 3.350480


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.128026
2 Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.340767
3 Finnish + Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan @ 3.350480
4 Finnish + Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 3.433027
5 Estonian + Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan @ 3.469554
6 Bulgarian + Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Swedish @ 3.503046
7 Bulgarian + Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.536202
8 Finnish + Hungarian + Hungarian + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.543772
9 Bulgarian + East_Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Swedish @ 3.556333
10 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Finnish + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.567511
11 Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.623672
12 Estonian + Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 3.652259
13 East_Finnish + Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 3.682357
14 Ashkenazi + Ashkenazi + Finnish + Finnish @ 3.717424
15 East_Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + North_Swedish + Romanian @ 3.720047
16 Bulgarian + Estonian + Lebanese_Druze + North_Swedish @ 3.723194
17 East_Finnish + Hungarian + Hungarian + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.730668
18 Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.740734
19 Lebanese_Druze + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.758394
20 East_Finnish + Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan @ 3.762920


Grandfather (100% Italian from Calabria region):


Population
North_Atlantic 17.11%
Baltic 6.85%
West_Med 19.35%
West_Asian 16.13%
East_Med 34.86%
Red_Sea 4.31%
South_Asian 0.23%
East_Asian 0.30%
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.06%
Northeast_African 0.79%
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 4.972449
2 East_Sicilian @ 6.587192
3 Central_Greek @ 7.088356
4 Ashkenazi @ 7.378014
5 Sephardic_Jewish @ 7.997984
6 Italian_Jewish @ 8.485114
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.341055
8 West_Sicilian @ 9.821878
9 Algerian_Jewish @ 9.978148
10 Tunisian_Jewish @ 12.297909
11 Libyan_Jewish @ 13.327330
12 Greek_Thessaly @ 14.341321
13 Cyprian @ 14.799298
14 Tuscan @ 17.051533
15 Lebanese_Muslim @ 18.396666
16 Syrian @ 20.168324
17 Turkish @ 21.088888
18 Lebanese_Druze @ 22.316444
19 Samaritan @ 22.370014
20 Jordanian @ 22.699770

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Druze +50% North_Italian @ 3.479847


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% South_Italian @ 2.558497


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian @ 2.558497
2 Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian @ 2.563801
3 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.565588
4 Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 2.580211
5 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + West_Sicilian @ 2.639919
6 Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.710793
7 Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.842303
8 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.878429
9 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.890379
10 East_Sicilian + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.901598
11 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + West_Sicilian @ 2.917646
12 East_Sicilian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + West_Sicilian @ 2.922808
13 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian @ 2.924089
14 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.927878
15 East_Sicilian + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.969350
16 Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.971546
17 Cyprian + Lebanese_Druze + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.972785
18 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + West_Sicilian + West_Sicilian @ 2.987027
19 Cyprian + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Jewish @ 3.015225
20 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_French @ 3.031736

[Black Wolf]

Now our K15 results.


Me (25% Italian (Calabria region), 25% Finnish and 50% Irish/British Isles):

Population
North_Sea 31.10%
Atlantic 20.43%
Baltic 10.15%
Eastern_Euro 12.53%
West_Med 7.55%
West_Asian 4.79%
East_Med 7.85%
Red_Sea 1.47%
South_Asian 1.06%
Southeast_Asian 0.21%
Siberian 1.01%
Amerindian 0.91%
Oceanian 0.96%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_German @ 6.882934
2 South_Dutch @ 9.166259
3 North_German @ 10.206125
4 East_German @ 11.009475
5 Danish @ 11.436258
6 North_Dutch @ 12.148989
7 North_Swedish @ 12.238081
8 French @ 12.285089
9 Norwegian @ 12.431664
10 Southeast_English @ 12.702209
11 Swedish @ 12.762684
12 Hungarian @ 12.804001
13 Southwest_English @ 12.808552
14 Austrian @ 13.840972
15 Irish @ 14.203956
16 West_Scottish @ 14.261093
17 West_Norwegian @ 14.660180
18 Orcadian @ 14.968451
19 Southwest_Finnish @ 15.353154
20 Serbian @ 15.462649

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% West_Norwegian @ 4.507474


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Swedish +25% West_Norwegian +25% West_Sicilian @ 2.939647


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 2.620787
2 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 2.834436
3 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 2.885162
4 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian + West_Sicilian @ 2.939647
5 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Norwegian + West_Sicilian @ 2.968930
6 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.975459
7 Italian_Abruzzo + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 3.005563
8 Central_Greek + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 3.038696
9 Ashkenazi + Danish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 3.055029
10 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Southeast_English @ 3.055705
11 Italian_Abruzzo + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.086883
12 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 3.099065
13 Italian_Jewish + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + West_Norwegian @ 3.099953
14 Danish + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Swedish + North_Swedish @ 3.107980
15 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Sephardic_Jewish + West_Norwegian @ 3.123158
16 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 3.130798
17 East_Sicilian + North_Swedish + North_Swedish + Orcadian @ 3.147161
18 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.187288
19 Ashkenazi + North_Swedish + Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.205017
20 North_Swedish + North_Swedish + South_Italian + West_Norwegian @ 3.210124


Mother (100% Irish/British Isles):

Population
North_Sea 37.51%
Atlantic 29.36%
Baltic 7.75%
Eastern_Euro 10.90%
West_Med 8.71%
West_Asian 4.01%
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.70%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.15%
Amerindian 0.42%
Oceanian 0.37%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.11%

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 3.987208
2 West_Scottish @ 4.319557
3 Southeast_English @ 4.689071
4 Southwest_English @ 5.238953
5 Irish @ 5.261833
6 Danish @ 5.515993
7 North_Dutch @ 5.968268
8 North_German @ 8.435116
9 Norwegian @ 8.935400
10 West_Norwegian @ 9.030189
11 South_Dutch @ 10.218889
12 Swedish @ 11.203334
13 West_German @ 11.508073
14 North_Swedish @ 13.759703
15 French @ 14.762876
16 East_German @ 17.375288
17 Southwest_Finnish @ 19.713348
18 Austrian @ 22.357388
19 Hungarian @ 23.146667
20 Spanish_Cataluna @ 23.243250

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% Southwest_English @ 3.523707


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Southwest_English +25% West_Scottish @ 3.378662


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.346794
2 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.378662
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.431069
4 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 3.463724
5 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.523707
6 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch @ 3.527287
7 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 3.543168
8 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 3.546698
9 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 3.550548
10 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 3.553823
11 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.556800
12 Danish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.573628
13 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.586715
14 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.650267
15 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.652214
16 Orcadian + Orcadian + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.664289
17 Danish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.684850
18 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.696775
19 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.697118
20 Danish + Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English @ 3.698050


Aunt (100% Irish/British Isles) (Mother's Sister):

Population
North_Sea 41.00%
Atlantic 26.83%
Baltic 8.07%
Eastern_Euro 9.66%
West_Med 8.10%
West_Asian 4.16%
East_Med 0.35%
Red_Sea 0.76%
South_Asian 0.11%
Southeast_Asian 0.13%
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.81%

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 3.451766
2 North_Dutch @ 5.804817
3 West_Norwegian @ 6.058338
4 West_Scottish @ 6.092417
5 Danish @ 6.603306
6 Southeast_English @ 7.154625
7 Irish @ 7.194252
8 Norwegian @ 7.239571
9 Southwest_English @ 7.479034
10 Swedish @ 9.546078
11 North_German @ 10.129268
12 West_German @ 11.369989
13 South_Dutch @ 12.593025
14 North_Swedish @ 13.284492
15 French @ 16.603401
16 East_German @ 18.938076
17 Southwest_Finnish @ 20.815725
18 Finnish @ 23.911596
19 Hungarian @ 24.118013
20 Austrian @ 24.508429

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +50% West_Norwegian @ 3.208307


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% West_Norwegian @ 2.774290


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 2.774290
2 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.072676
3 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian @ 3.195981
4 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.208307
5 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 3.345096
6 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.348086
7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.362910
8 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Norwegian @ 3.377944
9 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.451766
10 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 3.458142
11 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 3.496688
12 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 3.497745
13 Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian @ 3.559625
14 North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.566031
15 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 3.588625
16 Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.689370
17 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 3.696763
18 Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 3.725216
19 Orcadian + Orcadian + West_German + West_Norwegian @ 3.735392
20 Danish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.745793


Father (50% Italian (Calabria region) and 50% Finnish):


Population
North_Sea 19.82%
Atlantic 12.74%
Baltic 13.45%
Eastern_Euro 12.27%
West_Med 9.91%
West_Asian 7.70%
East_Med 17.26%
Red_Sea 0.90%
South_Asian 1.14%
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 2.76%
Amerindian 1.63%
Oceanian 0.28%
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.13%

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 8.202571
2 Romanian @ 8.903624
3 Bulgarian @ 10.929785
4 Moldavian @ 13.198098
5 Hungarian @ 14.042773
6 Greek_Thessaly @ 14.439389
7 Austrian @ 15.755073
8 Croatian @ 15.841407
9 Greek @ 17.059065
10 Tuscan @ 19.041395
11 East_German @ 19.363491
12 North_Italian @ 19.845995
13 Ashkenazi @ 19.982796
14 Italian_Abruzzo @ 20.289001
15 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 20.946920
16 West_German @ 21.154100
17 Central_Greek @ 21.347404
18 French @ 21.820141
19 Ukrainian @ 21.825975
20 South_Polish @ 21.831957

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Finnish +50% South_Italian @ 4.934338


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Finnish +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.129502


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cyprian + East_Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + North_Swedish @ 3.432281
2 East_Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Moldavian + West_German @ 3.652494
3 Cyprian + Finnish + Finnish + Greek_Thessaly @ 3.717842
4 Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + North_Swedish @ 3.791519
5 Cyprian + Erzya + Greek_Thessaly + West_Norwegian @ 3.838019
6 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Kargopol_Russian + North_Swedish @ 3.856896
7 East_Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + North_Swedish @ 3.880393
8 Cyprian + East_Finnish + Greek + North_Swedish @ 3.927717
9 Cyprian + East_Finnish + Finnish + Greek_Thessaly @ 3.963284
10 Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Serbian + West_German @ 3.972785
11 Greek_Thessaly + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Norwegian @ 3.977676
12 Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Moldavian + West_German @ 3.984004
13 Hungarian + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 3.988832
14 Erzya + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + West_Norwegian @ 3.991049
15 Cyprian + Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.994325
16 Cyprian + East_Finnish + Greek_Thessaly + Southwest_Finnish @ 4.000861
17 Erzya + Hungarian + Lebanese_Druze + West_German @ 4.004186
18 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Kargopol_Russian + Norwegian @ 4.004286
19 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Kargopol_Russian + West_Norwegian @ 4.009827
20 Cyprian + Erzya + Greek_Thessaly + Norwegian @ 4.009892


Uncle (50% Italian (Calabria Region and 50% Finnish) (Father's Brother):

Population
North_Sea 17.92%
Atlantic 18.21%
Baltic 14.22%
Eastern_Euro 11.88%
West_Med 6.58%
West_Asian 7.36%
East_Med 16.61%
Red_Sea 2.21%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.78%
Siberian 2.55%
Amerindian 1.47%
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.19%
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Serbian @ 7.695677
2 Romanian @ 8.991740
3 Bulgarian @ 11.025604
4 Austrian @ 12.461360
5 Hungarian @ 13.520415
6 Moldavian @ 13.905275
7 Croatian @ 14.632639
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 17.212990
9 Greek @ 17.853424
10 East_German @ 18.034012
11 Tuscan @ 19.299961
12 North_Italian @ 19.587240
13 South_Polish @ 20.651201
14 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 20.670391
15 South_Dutch @ 20.681681
16 Italian_Abruzzo @ 20.691273
17 French @ 20.722441
18 West_German @ 21.023987
19 Ashkenazi @ 21.566502
20 Ukrainian @ 21.595587

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.449791


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Austrian +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.702062


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Austrian + Austrian + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Finnish @ 2.702062
2 Austrian + Austrian + Finnish + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.795378
3 Austrian + Austrian + East_Finnish + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.096545
4 Austrian + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + South_Dutch @ 3.126529
5 Austrian + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Southeast_English @ 3.229219
6 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Finnish @ 3.261221
7 Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Russian + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.311068
8 Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Russian + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.317290
9 Austrian + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + North_German @ 3.322303
10 Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Russian + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.329584
11 Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Finnish + Southwest_Russian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.372795
12 Austrian + Erzya + Lebanese_Druze + Southeast_English @ 3.382585
13 Austrian + Irish + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.387334
14 Austrian + East_Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + South_Dutch @ 3.431130
15 Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Russian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.437092
16 Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.450892
17 Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Southwest_Finnish + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.455189
18 East_Finnish + Estonian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.461008
19 Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Murcia + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.462260
20 Finnish + Lebanese_Druze + Russian_Smolensk + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.470989


Grandfather (100% Italian from Calabria region):

Population
North_Sea 9.20%
Atlantic 13.30%
Baltic 6.18%
Eastern_Euro 1.49%
West_Med 14.43%
West_Asian 16.92%
East_Med 32.89%
Red_Sea 4.85%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.72%
Sub-Saharan -

Oracle-4:

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Italian @ 5.472898
2 Central_Greek @ 7.147470
3 East_Sicilian @ 7.473631
4 Italian_Jewish @ 8.245666
5 Sephardic_Jewish @ 8.438474
6 Ashkenazi @ 9.447376
7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.672463
8 Algerian_Jewish @ 10.349647
9 West_Sicilian @ 10.991302
10 Tunisian_Jewish @ 11.905335
11 Cyprian @ 13.203903
12 Greek @ 13.552282
13 Libyan_Jewish @ 14.476478
14 Greek_Thessaly @ 14.742356
15 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.213354
16 Tuscan @ 17.255121
17 Syrian @ 17.872890
18 Turkish @ 18.444740
19 Samaritan @ 20.801775
20 Jordanian @ 20.914938

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.288374


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Lebanese_Druze +25% South_Italian @ 2.571579


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian @ 2.571579
2 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian @ 2.714489
3 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.807950
4 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze @ 2.854661
5 Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian @ 2.861721
6 Central_Greek + East_Sicilian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.038506
7 East_Sicilian + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian @ 3.049160
8 East_Sicilian + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.051924
9 Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + South_Italian @ 3.058615
10 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian @ 3.161771
11 Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.210014
12 Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.243374
13 Central_Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + West_Sicilian @ 3.245858
14 Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Southwest_French @ 3.263506
15 Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + West_Sicilian @ 3.271746
16 Greek + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + South_Italian @ 3.310328
17 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze @ 3.321666
18 Assyrian + Central_Greek + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.330516
19 Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + South_Italian + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.331984
20 Assyrian + Lebanese_Druze + North_Italian + Tuscan @ 3.339530

[Sikeliot]

I am using K15 for this.. here are some Sicilians' results:


Paksaltopam's grandmother, Trapani


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.08
2 West_Med 17.63
3 Atlantic 16.47
4 West_Asian 12.62
5 North_Sea 11.12
6 Red_Sea 5.54
7 Baltic 4.48
8 Eastern_Euro 1.91
9 Northeast_African 1.87
10 Sub-Saharan 0.97
11 Southeast_Asian 0.31

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Sicilian 3.05
2 East_Sicilian 4.07
3 Italian_Abruzzo 4.12
4 South_Italian 5.11
5 Central_Greek 5.42
6 Ashkenazi 7.2
7 Tuscan 7.92
8 Italian_Jewish 7.98
9 Sephardic_Jewish 9.18
10 Greek 9.19
11 Algerian_Jewish 9.58
12 Greek_Thessaly 9.74
13 Tunisian_Jewish 13.34
14 North_Italian 14.39
15 Libyan_Jewish 14.99
16 Bulgarian 16.17
17 Cyprian 17.15
18 Romanian 17.98
19 Lebanese_Muslim 20.19
20 Serbian 20.67

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.8% Cyprian + 43.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.75
2 55.3% Cyprian + 44.7% Portuguese @ 1.86
3 57.1% Cyprian + 42.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.97
4 60.5% West_Sicilian + 39.5% East_Sicilian @ 1.99
5 55.2% Cyprian + 44.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.05
6 68.6% West_Sicilian + 31.4% South_Italian @ 2.21
7 54.9% Cyprian + 45.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.24
8 63.4% Tuscan + 36.6% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.31
9 71.4% West_Sicilian + 28.6% Central_Greek @ 2.34
10 93.4% West_Sicilian + 6.6% Armenian @ 2.36
11 72.6% Tuscan + 27.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.38
12 82.3% South_Italian + 17.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.38
13 82% South_Italian + 18% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.39
14 76.6% Tuscan + 23.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.39
15 82.4% South_Italian + 17.6% Portuguese @ 2.41
16 73.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 26.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.42
17 58.6% North_Italian + 41.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.45
18 77.3% Tuscan + 22.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.45
19 95.6% West_Sicilian + 4.4% Georgian @ 2.46
20 50.2% Tuscan + 49.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.47



Trapani

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.06
2 West_Med 19.45
3 North_Sea 13.69
4 Atlantic 12.69
5 West_Asian 11.4
6 Red_Sea 6.05
7 Baltic 3.39
8 Northeast_African 1.23
9 Sub-Saharan 1.17
10 South_Asian 1.15
11 Eastern_Euro 0.73

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 5.97
2 South_Italian 6.35
3 West_Sicilian 6.95
4 Central_Greek 7.23
5 Italian_Jewish 7.23
6 Italian_Abruzzo 7.78
7 Ashkenazi 8.11
8 Algerian_Jewish 9.11
9 Sephardic_Jewish 9.76
10 Tuscan 10.3
11 Greek_Thessaly 10.48
12 Greek 12.05
13 Libyan_Jewish 12.92
14 Tunisian_Jewish 13.34
15 North_Italian 16.3
16 Cyprian 16.58
17 Bulgarian 18.73
18 Lebanese_Muslim 19.94
19 Romanian 20.27
20 Syrian 20.28


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.3% Tuscan + 43.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.69
2 83.3% Italian_Jewish + 16.7% West_German @ 4
3 50.5% Spanish_Galicia + 49.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.04
4 56.3% Libyan_Jewish + 43.7% North_Italian @ 4.09
5 79.4% Italian_Jewish + 20.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.12
6 81.9% Italian_Jewish + 18.1% French @ 4.15
7 58.8% Cyprian + 41.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.17
8 51.1% Portuguese + 48.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.27
9 85.8% Italian_Jewish + 14.2% Southwest_English @ 4.29
10 87.4% Italian_Jewish + 12.6% West_Norwegian @ 4.31
11 61.8% Italian_Jewish + 38.2% Tuscan @ 4.35
12 78.9% Algerian_Jewish + 21.1% West_German @ 4.35
13 87% Italian_Jewish + 13% Orcadian @ 4.36
14 87.1% Italian_Jewish + 12.9% Norwegian @ 4.37
15 73.2% Italian_Jewish + 26.8% North_Italian @ 4.38
16 79.6% Italian_Jewish + 20.4% Portuguese @ 4.44
17 87.3% Italian_Jewish + 12.7% Swedish @ 4.46
18 86.8% Italian_Jewish + 13.2% North_Dutch @ 4.47
19 84.4% Italian_Jewish + 15.6% South_Dutch @ 4.47
20 86.4% Italian_Jewish + 13.6% Southeast_English @ 4.5



My cousin, from Palermo


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.24
2 Atlantic 19.4
3 West_Med 17.71
4 West_Asian 15.38
5 North_Sea 10.57
6 Red_Sea 7.34
7 Baltic 2.02
8 Northeast_African 1.59
9 Sub-Saharan 0.96
10 Oceanian 0.36
11 Eastern_Euro 0.25
12 South_Asian 0.18


# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Abruzzo 5.57
2 West_Sicilian 6.17
3 East_Sicilian 7.24
4 South_Italian 8
5 Central_Greek 8.4
6 Tuscan 8.54
7 Ashkenazi 10.38
8 Italian_Jewish 10.74
9 Sephardic_Jewish 10.89
10 Greek 12.09
11 Algerian_Jewish 12.35
12 Greek_Thessaly 12.88
13 North_Italian 14.36
14 Tunisian_Jewish 15.18
15 Libyan_Jewish 17.64
16 Bulgarian 18.03
17 Cyprian 19.07
18 Romanian 19.54
19 Spanish_Extremadura 19.86
20 Spanish_Andalucia 20


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 49.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.57
2 56.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 43.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.68
3 52.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 47.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.72
4 58.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 41.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.77
5 51.8% Spanish_Andalucia + 48.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.83
6 54.2% Spanish_Aragon + 45.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.85
7 53.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 46.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.93
8 61% Lebanese_Muslim + 39% French_Basque @ 4.12
9 53.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 46.4% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.22
10 54.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 45.1% Assyrian @ 4.26
11 52.7% Spanish_Aragon + 47.3% Assyrian @ 4.27
12 57.4% Spanish_Andalucia + 42.6% Assyrian @ 4.27
13 50.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 49.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.39
14 52% Spanish_Extremadura + 48% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.39
15 50% Syrian + 50% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.42
16 52.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 47.4% Syrian @ 4.45
17 52.2% Syrian + 47.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.48
18 60.4% Syrian + 39.6% French_Basque @ 4.49
19 51.4% Spanish_Murcia + 48.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.53
20 59.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 40.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.54




Half Sicilian (Trapani, Caltanissetta provinces), half Calabrese


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.08
2 West_Med 19.88
3 North_Sea 13.46
4 West_Asian 12.2
5 Atlantic 11.27
6 Red_Sea 5.61
7 Baltic 4.41
8 Eastern_Euro 3.45
9 Northeast_African 1.64


# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 5.33
2 Central_Greek 6
3 South_Italian 6.56
4 Ashkenazi 6.82
5 West_Sicilian 7.4
6 Italian_Abruzzo 7.44
7 Italian_Jewish 8.05
8 Greek_Thessaly 8.76
9 Algerian_Jewish 10.11
10 Tuscan 10.26
11 Greek 10.49
12 Sephardic_Jewish 10.59
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.49
14 Tunisian_Jewish 14.17
15 North_Italian 16.23
16 Cyprian 16.56
17 Bulgarian 17.15
18 Romanian 18.76
19 Lebanese_Muslim 20.09
20 Syrian 20.52

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.7% Italian_Jewish + 47.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.85
2 58.9% Cyprian + 41.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.24
3 57.9% Tuscan + 42.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.42
4 62.9% Greek_Thessaly + 37.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.55
5 54.7% Greek_Thessaly + 45.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.63
6 81.8% Italian_Jewish + 18.2% West_German @ 4.64
7 82.9% Italian_Jewish + 17.1% East_German @ 4.81
8 50.7% Spanish_Galicia + 49.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.83
9 58.5% Cyprian + 41.5% Portuguese @ 4.83
10 81.4% Italian_Jewish + 18.6% Hungarian @ 4.87
11 55.2% Libyan_Jewish + 44.8% North_Italian @ 4.91
12 76.5% Italian_Jewish + 23.5% Serbian @ 4.93
13 85.8% Italian_Jewish + 14.2% Norwegian @ 4.93
14 60.3% North_Italian + 39.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.96
15 86.3% Italian_Jewish + 13.7% West_Norwegian @ 4.97
16 94.1% East_Sicilian + 5.9% Sardinian @ 4.97
17 80.8% Italian_Jewish + 19.2% Moldavian @ 4.98
18 85.9% Italian_Jewish + 14.1% Swedish @ 4.98
19 74.2% Italian_Jewish + 25.8% Romanian @ 5.04
20 80.8% Italian_Jewish + 19.2% French @ 5.04




Palermo



# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.68
2 West_Med 18.37
3 North_Sea 14.83
4 West_Asian 11.79
5 Red_Sea 7.37
6 Atlantic 7.21
7 Eastern_Euro 2.56
8 Baltic 2.51
9 Sub-Saharan 1.54
10 Amerindian 0.9
11 Oceanian 0.25


# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Jewish 8.26
2 Ashkenazi 9.53
3 East_Sicilian 9.64
4 South_Italian 9.71
5 Algerian_Jewish 10.11
6 Central_Greek 10.19
7 Libyan_Jewish 10.75
8 Sephardic_Jewish 10.91
9 West_Sicilian 12.13
10 Italian_Abruzzo 12.17
11 Greek_Thessaly 13.22
12 Tunisian_Jewish 13.28
13 Cyprian 14.55
14 Greek 15.52
15 Tuscan 15.76
16 Lebanese_Muslim 17.7
17 Syrian 17.85
18 Samaritan 18.92
19 Jordanian 19.86
20 Lebanese_Christian 20.37


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.3% Libyan_Jewish + 42.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.41
2 58.5% Lebanese_Christian + 41.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 6.71
3 79.8% Libyan_Jewish + 20.2% West_German @ 6.91
4 52.4% Central_Greek + 47.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.92
5 64.9% Samaritan + 35.1% West_German @ 7.16
6 63.7% Libyan_Jewish + 36.3% Tuscan @ 7.19
7 55.2% Libyan_Jewish + 44.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.19
8 84.2% Libyan_Jewish + 15.8% West_Norwegian @ 7.21
9 79.2% Libyan_Jewish + 20.8% French @ 7.22
10 83.8% Libyan_Jewish + 16.2% Norwegian @ 7.25
11 57.3% Lebanese_Druze + 42.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 7.27
12 73.9% Italian_Jewish + 26.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 7.28
13 58.4% Lebanese_Christian + 41.6% Portuguese @ 7.32
14 83% Libyan_Jewish + 17% Southwest_English @ 7.33
15 84% Libyan_Jewish + 16% Swedish @ 7.34
16 60.7% Samaritan + 39.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 7.35
17 81.2% Libyan_Jewish + 18.8% South_Dutch @ 7.35
18 91.9% Italian_Jewish + 8.1% West_Norwegian @ 7.38
19 72.2% Libyan_Jewish + 27.8% North_Italian @ 7.39
20 84.1% Libyan_Jewish + 15.9% Orcadian @ 7.39



Palermo



# Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.35
2 Atlantic 18.89
3 West_Med 18.09
4 West_Asian 14.27
5 Baltic 6.21
6 Red_Sea 5.75
7 North_Sea 3.15
8 Eastern_Euro 2.16
9 Northeast_African 0.52
10 Sub-Saharan 0.36
11 Oceanian 0.15
12 Amerindian 0.08

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 6.43
2 West_Sicilian 7.42
3 Sephardic_Jewish 7.77
4 East_Sicilian 8.11
5 Central_Greek 8.48
6 Algerian_Jewish 8.84
7 Italian_Abruzzo 8.99
8 Italian_Jewish 9.04
9 Greek 10.76
10 Ashkenazi 10.8
11 Tunisian_Jewish 11.66
12 Tuscan 13.17
13 Greek_Thessaly 14.41
14 Cyprian 14.46
15 Libyan_Jewish 16.28
16 Lebanese_Muslim 18.43
17 Bulgarian 19.08
18 North_Italian 19.11
19 Syrian 19.69
20 Turkish 19.92

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.6% Cyprian + 27.4% French_Basque @ 3.71
2 63.7% Cyprian + 36.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.72
3 68.6% Cyprian + 31.4% Southwest_French @ 4.82
4 65.3% Cyprian + 34.7% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.84
5 67.4% Cyprian + 32.6% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.85
6 66.2% Cyprian + 33.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.11
7 62.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 37.6% Greek @ 5.36
8 72.9% West_Sicilian + 27.1% Cyprian @ 5.51
9 62.6% Lebanese_Christian + 37.4% French_Basque @ 5.54
10 68.6% Cyprian + 31.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.64
11 87.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 12.5% French_Basque @ 5.74
12 52.7% West_Sicilian + 47.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.8
13 85.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 14.6% Southwest_French @ 5.91
14 82.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 17.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.93
15 66.7% Cyprian + 33.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.99
16 65.3% South_Italian + 34.7% West_Sicilian @ 5.99
17 52.8% Greek + 47.2% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.99
18 68.1% South_Italian + 31.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6
19 65.4% Cyprian + 34.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 6.01
20 83.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 16.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 6.01


Palermo



# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.52
2 West_Asian 19.03
3 West_Med 14.38
4 North_Sea 13.32
5 Atlantic 12.19
6 Baltic 5.46
7 Red_Sea 4.92
8 Northeast_African 1.36
9 Sub-Saharan 1.18
10 Oceanian 0.64



# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 6.2
2 East_Sicilian 6.48
3 South_Italian 7.04
4 Italian_Abruzzo 7.1
5 Ashkenazi 8.35
6 West_Sicilian 10.32
7 Italian_Jewish 10.75
8 Greek_Thessaly 10.85
9 Sephardic_Jewish 11.57
10 Greek 11.93
11 Algerian_Jewish 13.04
12 Tuscan 13.12
13 Tunisian_Jewish 14.85
14 Libyan_Jewish 15.68
15 Cyprian 15.68
16 Turkish 16.1
17 Lebanese_Muslim 17.18
18 Bulgarian 17.39
19 Syrian 18.29
20 Romanian 18.89



# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.9% Assyrian + 44.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.4
2 55.4% Assyrian + 44.6% Portuguese @ 4.44
3 63.4% Tuscan + 36.6% Armenian @ 4.65
4 56.6% Assyrian + 43.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.68
5 79.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.1% Armenian @ 4.7
6 52.3% North_Italian + 47.7% Assyrian @ 4.74
7 62.6% Tuscan + 37.4% Assyrian @ 4.77
8 56.7% Assyrian + 43.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.78
9 63.8% Tuscan + 36.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.86
10 86.3% South_Italian + 13.7% Tabassaran @ 4.87
11 88.7% East_Sicilian + 11.3% Georgian @ 4.88
12 79.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 20.1% Assyrian @ 4.92
13 89.9% East_Sicilian + 10.1% Abhkasian @ 4.94
14 80.9% Italian_Abruzzo + 19.1% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.97
15 89.2% East_Sicilian + 10.8% Ossetian @ 5.09
16 84.1% East_Sicilian + 15.9% Armenian @ 5.1
17 86.6% South_Italian + 13.4% Lezgin @ 5.12
18 87% East_Sicilian + 13% Kumyk @ 5.14
19 55.4% Assyrian + 44.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.16
20 87.4% South_Italian + 12.6% Chechen @ 5.17



Agrigento


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.69
2 West_Med 18.92
3 West_Asian 12.15
4 Atlantic 12.07
5 North_Sea 9.78
6 Red_Sea 3.58
7 Eastern_Euro 3.57
8 Baltic 2.73
9 South_Asian 1.93
10 Sub-Saharan 1.54
11 Oceanian 0.78
12 Siberian 0.25

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 6.09
2 Italian_Jewish 6.33
3 Algerian_Jewish 7.11
4 East_Sicilian 7.62
5 Central_Greek 7.75
6 West_Sicilian 8.18
7 Sephardic_Jewish 8.29
8 Ashkenazi 8.99
9 Italian_Abruzzo 9.51
10 Tunisian_Jewish 11.71
11 Greek 12.19
12 Libyan_Jewish 12.35
13 Greek_Thessaly 12.58
14 Cyprian 13.25
15 Tuscan 13.58
16 Lebanese_Muslim 17.49
17 Syrian 18.49
18 Samaritan 19.58
19 North_Italian 19.6
20 Turkish 20.1


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% Algerian_Jewish + 46% Central_Greek @ 5.04
2 68% Cyprian + 32% Portuguese @ 5.11
3 70% Algerian_Jewish + 30% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.13
4 68.7% Cyprian + 31.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.21
5 69.3% Cyprian + 30.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.21
6 60.7% South_Italian + 39.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.22
7 60.8% Cyprian + 39.2% North_Italian @ 5.24
8 76.5% Italian_Jewish + 23.5% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.27
9 75.9% Italian_Jewish + 24.1% Greek @ 5.28
10 53.6% South_Italian + 46.4% Italian_Jewish @ 5.28
11 62% Italian_Jewish + 38% Central_Greek @ 5.3
12 62.5% Algerian_Jewish + 37.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 5.32
13 66.1% West_Sicilian + 33.9% Cyprian @ 5.32
14 68.2% Cyprian + 31.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.37
15 52.5% North_Italian + 47.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.41
16 88% Algerian_Jewish + 12% West_German @ 5.47
17 77.4% West_Sicilian + 22.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.47
18 50.8% Cyprian + 49.2% Tuscan @ 5.51
19 68% Cyprian + 32% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.52
20 81.3% South_Italian + 18.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.53



Agrigento



# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.13
2 West_Med 16.55
3 West_Asian 14.07
4 Atlantic 11.8
5 North_Sea 9.68
6 Red_Sea 6.69
7 Eastern_Euro 3.75
8 Baltic 3.06
9 Northeast_African 1.76
10 Sub-Saharan 1.49
11 Oceanian 0.03


# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_Jewish 4.92
2 South_Italian 5.15
3 East_Sicilian 5.19
4 Ashkenazi 6.01
5 Sephardic_Jewish 6.17
6 Central_Greek 6.22
7 Algerian_Jewish 6.62
8 West_Sicilian 7.74
9 Italian_Abruzzo 8.02
10 Tunisian_Jewish 9.7
11 Libyan_Jewish 10.64
12 Greek 11.79
13 Greek_Thessaly 12
14 Cyprian 12.16
15 Tuscan 13.44
16 Lebanese_Muslim 15.21
17 Syrian 15.88
18 Turkish 17.94
19 Samaritan 18.1
20 Jordanian 18.24


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 42.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.77
2 69.6% Cyprian + 30.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.81
3 90.3% Italian_Jewish + 9.7% Tabassaran @ 2.93
4 65.1% Central_Greek + 34.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.94
5 69.1% Cyprian + 30.9% Portuguese @ 2.95
6 72% Cyprian + 28% French @ 2.97
7 90.4% Italian_Jewish + 9.6% Lezgin @ 3.11
8 57.5% Italian_Jewish + 42.5% Ashkenazi @ 3.12
9 58.7% Italian_Jewish + 41.3% Central_Greek @ 3.16
10 57.7% Lebanese_Christian + 42.3% Portuguese @ 3.25
11 50.4% Lebanese_Christian + 49.6% North_Italian @ 3.26
12 86.5% Algerian_Jewish + 13.5% Tabassaran @ 3.3
13 52.4% Italian_Jewish + 47.6% East_Sicilian @ 3.32
14 59.7% Tuscan + 40.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.32
15 91.3% Italian_Jewish + 8.7% Chechen @ 3.33
16 52.2% Central_Greek + 47.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.38
17 76.7% Cyprian + 23.3% Southwest_English @ 3.38
18 69% Cyprian + 31% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.41
19 83.8% East_Sicilian + 16.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.41
20 72.1% East_Sicilian + 27.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.44



Messina



# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.49
2 Atlantic 18.42
3 West_Asian 16.61
4 West_Med 16.38
5 Red_Sea 7.94
6 North_Sea 5.66
7 Baltic 3.66
8 Northeast_African 1.39
9 Sub-Saharan 0.43

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 5.99
2 Sephardic_Jewish 6.42
3 East_Sicilian 7.17
4 West_Sicilian 7.77
5 Italian_Abruzzo 7.94
6 Italian_Jewish 8.01
7 Central_Greek 8.23
8 Algerian_Jewish 8.97
9 Ashkenazi 10.12
10 Tunisian_Jewish 10.52
11 Greek 12.71
12 Tuscan 13.2
13 Cyprian 13.95
14 Greek_Thessaly 14.92
15 Libyan_Jewish 14.92
16 Lebanese_Muslim 16.66
17 Syrian 17.71
18 Turkish 18.06
19 North_Italian 19.47
20 Bulgarian 20.19


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 30.3% French_Basque @ 3.25
2 73.7% Cyprian + 26.3% French_Basque @ 3.8
3 63.9% Lebanese_Christian + 36.1% French_Basque @ 4.01
4 60.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 39.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.14
5 64% Lebanese_Muslim + 36% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.17
6 58.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 41.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.46
7 62.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 37.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.46
8 67% Cyprian + 33% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.5
9 68.5% Cyprian + 31.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.56
10 89.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 10.7% French_Basque @ 4.58
11 62.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 37.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.58
12 65.1% Cyprian + 34.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.7
13 61.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 38.3% French_Basque @ 4.7
14 59.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 40.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.71
15 65.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.4% Southwest_French @ 4.82
16 85.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 14.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.83
17 86.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 13.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.85
18 66.7% Cyprian + 33.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.86
19 87.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 12.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.89
20 53.7% Lebanese_Christian + 46.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.9



Messina



# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.45
2 West_Med 21
3 West_Asian 15.04
4 Atlantic 11.26
5 North_Sea 10.8
6 Red_Sea 6.02
7 Baltic 3.87
8 Northeast_African 1.98
9 Siberian 0.45
10 Oceanian 0.1
11 Amerindian 0.01
12 Sub-Saharan 0.01

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 4.62
2 East_Sicilian 5.4
3 Central_Greek 6.42
4 Italian_Jewish 6.61
5 Ashkenazi 8.49
6 Algerian_Jewish 8.59
7 Italian_Abruzzo 8.59
8 West_Sicilian 8.69
9 Sephardic_Jewish 8.84
10 Greek_Thessaly 11.6
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.14
12 Libyan_Jewish 12.25
13 Greek 12.37
14 Tuscan 12.45
15 Cyprian 13.99
16 Lebanese_Muslim 17.9
17 Syrian 18.54
18 North_Italian 18.68
19 Turkish 19.78
20 Bulgarian 19.81


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.9% South_Italian + 15.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.14
2 93.4% South_Italian + 6.6% Moroccan @ 4.27
3 95% South_Italian + 5% Sardinian @ 4.33
4 93.4% South_Italian + 6.6% Algerian @ 4.33
5 76.3% South_Italian + 23.7% Italian_Jewish @ 4.36
6 98.1% South_Italian + 1.9% Somali @ 4.42
7 97.8% South_Italian + 2.2% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 4.42
8 98.2% South_Italian + 1.8% Ethiopian_Wolayta @ 4.43
9 97.9% South_Italian + 2.1% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 4.44
10 95.2% South_Italian + 4.8% Mozabite_Berber @ 4.44
11 98.2% South_Italian + 1.8% Ethiopian_Oromo @ 4.44
12 98.6% South_Italian + 1.4% Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator @ 4.45
13 96% South_Italian + 4% Tunisian @ 4.53
14 99% South_Italian + 1% Ethiopian_Gumuz @ 4.53
15 77.4% South_Italian + 22.6% East_Sicilian @ 4.54
16 98.9% South_Italian + 1.1% Maasai @ 4.55
17 99% South_Italian + 1% Hadza @ 4.55
18 97% South_Italian + 3% Egyptian @ 4.56
19 99.1% South_Italian + 0.9% Sandawe @ 4.57
20 91.3% South_Italian + 8.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.57



Catania (father and daughter):


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 29.69
2 West_Med 15.14
3 Atlantic 14.91
4 West_Asian 12.62
5 North_Sea 9.4
6 Red_Sea 6.55
7 Eastern_Euro 4
8 Baltic 3.07
9 Sub-Saharan 1.74
10 Northeast_African 1.44
11 Oceanian 0.89
12 South_Asian 0.55

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_Sicilian 5.29
2 West_Sicilian 5.35
3 South_Italian 5.85
4 Ashkenazi 6.18
5 Italian_Jewish 6.18
6 Central_Greek 6.42
7 Italian_Abruzzo 6.46
8 Sephardic_Jewish 6.65
9 Algerian_Jewish 7.54
10 Tunisian_Jewish 10.69
11 Greek 10.71
12 Tuscan 11.63
13 Greek_Thessaly 11.71
14 Libyan_Jewish 12.72
15 Cyprian 14.43
16 Lebanese_Muslim 16.99
17 Syrian 17.64
18 Bulgarian 17.88
19 North_Italian 17.96
20 Turkish 18.85


Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.9% West_Sicilian + 22.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.44
2 78.6% West_Sicilian + 21.4% Syrian @ 2.44
3 83.5% West_Sicilian + 16.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.48
4 80.6% West_Sicilian + 19.4% Jordanian @ 2.53
5 82.6% West_Sicilian + 17.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.6
6 83.7% West_Sicilian + 16.3% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.65
7 81.7% West_Sicilian + 18.3% Palestinian @ 2.71
8 82.5% West_Sicilian + 17.5% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.77
9 83.5% West_Sicilian + 16.5% Assyrian @ 2.87
10 84.1% Sephardic_Jewish + 15.9% West_German @ 2.96
11 87.1% Sephardic_Jewish + 12.9% Norwegian @ 2.98
12 87.1% Sephardic_Jewish + 12.9% North_Swedish @ 3
13 81.9% West_Sicilian + 18.1% Samaritan @ 3.03
14 54.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 45.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.04
15 86.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 13.4% Danish @ 3.04
16 87.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 12.8% Swedish @ 3.04
17 87.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 12.4% West_Norwegian @ 3.05
18 56.5% Lebanese_Druze + 43.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.11
19 85.9% Sephardic_Jewish + 14.1% North_German @ 3.11
20 86.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 13.3% North_Dutch @ 3.12





# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.5
2 Atlantic 15.27
3 West_Med 14.54
4 West_Asian 12.12
5 North_Sea 11.17
6 Red_Sea 7.7
7 Eastern_Euro 4.17
8 Baltic 2.68
9 Sub-Saharan 1.45
10 Northeast_African 1.14
11 Oceanian 0.78
12 Southeast_Asian 0.47


# Population (source) Distance
1 West_Sicilian 5.5
2 East_Sicilian 5.78
3 Italian_Abruzzo 6.05
4 Ashkenazi 6.11
5 Central_Greek 6.95
6 South_Italian 7.17
7 Italian_Jewish 7.25
8 Sephardic_Jewish 7.9
9 Algerian_Jewish 9.08
10 Tuscan 10.8
11 Greek 11.08
12 Greek_Thessaly 11.4
13 Tunisian_Jewish 11.95
14 Libyan_Jewish 13.51
15 Cyprian 15.98
16 North_Italian 17.01
17 Bulgarian 17.45
18 Lebanese_Muslim 18.14
19 Syrian 18.57
20 Romanian 18.97


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 15.8% West_Norwegian @ 2.38
2 83.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 16.3% Norwegian @ 2.43
3 80% Sephardic_Jewish + 20% West_German @ 2.48
4 83.6% Sephardic_Jewish + 16.4% Orcadian @ 2.53
5 83% Sephardic_Jewish + 17% Danish @ 2.55
6 83.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 16.2% Swedish @ 2.59
7 83.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 16.8% North_Dutch @ 2.61
8 83.8% Sephardic_Jewish + 16.2% North_Swedish @ 2.63
9 83.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 16.5% West_Scottish @ 2.73
10 82.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 17.3% Southeast_English @ 2.75
11 82.5% Sephardic_Jewish + 17.5% Southwest_English @ 2.8
12 82.3% Sephardic_Jewish + 17.7% North_German @ 2.8
13 80.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 19.6% South_Dutch @ 2.84
14 83.4% Sephardic_Jewish + 16.6% Irish @ 2.86
15 50.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 49.2% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.03
16 52.2% Lebanese_Christian + 47.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.09
17 78.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 21.3% French @ 3.18
18 50.5% Lebanese_Christian + 49.5% Portuguese @ 3.21
19 50.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 49.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.24
20 84.1% Italian_Jewish + 15.9% North_German @ 3.26




Cretan Greek:


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.88
2 West_Asian 18.86
3 West_Med 14.87
4 North_Sea 11.21
5 Atlantic 9.53
6 Red_Sea 5.23
7 Eastern_Euro 4.23
8 Baltic 2.49
9 Oceanian 0.7


# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Italian 7.97
2 Central_Greek 8.08
3 Italian_Jewish 8.73
4 East_Sicilian 8.74
5 Ashkenazi 9.07
6 Sephardic_Jewish 9.53
7 Italian_Abruzzo 10.32
8 Cyprian 10.87
9 Algerian_Jewish 11.03
10 West_Sicilian 12.17
11 Tunisian_Jewish 12.34
12 Libyan_Jewish 12.86
13 Lebanese_Muslim 13.25
14 Greek_Thessaly 13.97
15 Greek 14.18
16 Turkish 14.7
17 Syrian 14.92
18 Tuscan 16.82
19 Assyrian 17.28
20 Samaritan 17.44


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.4% Cyprian + 18.6% West_Norwegian @ 3.88
2 81% Cyprian + 19% Orcadian @ 3.96
3 77.4% Cyprian + 22.6% West_German @ 3.97
4 81.1% Cyprian + 18.9% Norwegian @ 4.1
5 80.7% Cyprian + 19.3% North_Dutch @ 4.25
6 80.6% Cyprian + 19.4% Danish @ 4.3
7 80.1% Cyprian + 19.9% Southwest_English @ 4.34
8 81.2% Cyprian + 18.8% Swedish @ 4.35
9 81.1% Cyprian + 18.9% West_Scottish @ 4.37
10 80.3% Cyprian + 19.7% Southeast_English @ 4.37
11 73.1% Central_Greek + 26.9% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.5
12 81.1% Cyprian + 18.9% Irish @ 4.51
13 55.5% Kurdish_Jewish + 44.5% North_Italian @ 4.52
14 81.6% Italian_Jewish + 18.4% Tabassaran @ 4.53
15 53% Tuscan + 47% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.57
16 66.3% Italian_Abruzzo + 33.7% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.59
17 81.2% Italian_Jewish + 18.8% Lezgin @ 4.6
18 80% Cyprian + 20% North_German @ 4.62
19 72.9% Central_Greek + 27.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.63
20 78.3% Cyprian + 21.7% South_Dutch @ 4.




Peloponnese Greek:


# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.46
2 Atlantic 18.5
3 West_Med 16.66
4 West_Asian 15.92
5 Baltic 12.61
6 Eastern_Euro 7.67
7 North_Sea 3.65
8 Red_Sea 1.82
9 Oceanian 0.46
10 Northeast_African 0.23


# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 6.02
2 Central_Greek 10.57
3 Italian_Abruzzo 10.83
4 Bulgarian 11.23
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.65
6 West_Sicilian 11.72
7 East_Sicilian 11.77
8 South_Italian 12.49
9 Ashkenazi 12.82
10 Tuscan 13.15
11 Romanian 14.35
12 Sephardic_Jewish 16.76
13 North_Italian 17.23
14 Italian_Jewish 17.3
15 Algerian_Jewish 17.62
16 Serbian 18.12
17 Tunisian_Jewish 20.51
18 Turkish 21.04
19 Cyprian 21.51
20 Moldavian 22.46


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.6% Greek + 6.4% North_Ossetian @ 5.51
2 93.4% Greek + 6.6% Adygei @ 5.54
3 93.3% Greek + 6.7% Kabardin @ 5.55
4 93.4% Greek + 6.6% Balkar @ 5.55
5 94.6% Greek + 5.4% Abhkasian @ 5.56
6 94.5% Greek + 5.5% Georgian @ 5.62
7 94.5% Greek + 5.5% Ossetian @ 5.64
8 94.4% Greek + 5.6% Chechen @ 5.66
9 94.3% Greek + 5.7% Kumyk @ 5.76
10 95.3% Greek + 4.7% Lezgin @ 5.8
11 93.5% Greek + 6.5% Turkish @ 5.86
12 95.6% Greek + 4.4% Nogay @ 5.86
13 95.4% Greek + 4.6% Kurdish @ 5.87
14 95.3% Greek + 4.7% Azeri @ 5.9
15 96.9% Greek + 3.1% Tabassaran @ 5.92
16 96.5% Greek + 3.5% Iranian @ 5.93
17 96.6% Greek + 3.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.94
18 96.7% Greek + 3.3% Armenian @ 5.95
19 97.7% Greek + 2.3% Balochi @ 5.95
20 97.8% Greek + 2.2% Brahui @ 5.95




Anatolian Greek (Smyrna) and Cretan:



# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.19
2 West_Med 14.85
3 West_Asian 12.71
4 North_Sea 11.71
5 Baltic 9.85
6 Atlantic 9.84
7 Red_Sea 5.55
8 Eastern_Euro 3.31


# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi 6.8
2 Central_Greek 6.83
3 East_Sicilian 7.27
4 South_Italian 7.63
5 Italian_Jewish 9.28
6 Greek_Thessaly 9.51
7 Italian_Abruzzo 9.76
8 Greek 10.35
9 West_Sicilian 10.5
10 Sephardic_Jewish 10.56
11 Algerian_Jewish 10.85
12 Tunisian_Jewish 13.31
13 Libyan_Jewish 13.49
14 Cyprian 14.07
15 Tuscan 14.46
16 Bulgarian 16.69
17 Lebanese_Muslim 17.01
18 Syrian 17.87
19 Romanian 18.68
20 Turkish 19.44


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.6% Greek_Thessaly + 30.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.78
2 69.9% Greek_Thessaly + 30.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.62
3 68.9% Greek_Thessaly + 31.1% Samaritan @ 3.96
4 70.7% Greek_Thessaly + 29.3% Palestinian @ 4.37
5 68% Cyprian + 32% Hungarian @ 4.52
6 61.4% Greek_Thessaly + 38.6% Cyprian @ 4.55
7 75% Cyprian + 25% Swedish @ 4.71
8 66.7% Greek_Thessaly + 33.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.94
9 75.1% Cyprian + 24.9% North_Swedish @ 4.96
10 80.7% Greek_Thessaly + 19.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.99
11 71.2% Cyprian + 28.8% East_German @ 5.03
12 75.3% Cyprian + 24.7% Norwegian @ 5.04
13 70.9% Greek_Thessaly + 29.1% Jordanian @ 5.16
14 69.5% Greek + 30.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.19
15 76.1% Cyprian + 23.9% West_Norwegian @ 5.19
16 70.8% Cyprian + 29.2% West_German @ 5.2
17 74.8% Cyprian + 25.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 5.21
18 51.2% Romanian + 48.8% Samaritan @ 5.26
19 58.4% Lebanese_Christian + 41.6% Hungarian @ 5.28
20 60.7% Greek_Thessaly + 39.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.29

[HellLander87]

I am using K15 for this..
Peloponnese Greek:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 22.46
2 Atlantic 18.5
3 West_Med 16.66
4 West_Asian 15.92
5 Baltic 12.61
6 Eastern_Euro 7.67
7 North_Sea 3.65
8 Red_Sea 1.82
9 Oceanian 0.46
10 Northeast_African 0.23








Interesting results.
uncle's for comparison
1 West_Med 18.03
2 Atlantic 16.85
3 East_Med 15.69
4 North_Sea 15.47
5 Baltic 12.14
6 West_Asian 10.33
7 Eastern_Euro 7.33
8 Red_Sea 4.16

The most striking difference is the higher North Sea.Baltic and east euro are almost the same.So one could say that northern Greeks are more Germanic rather than more Slavic.This higher north sea though is probably due to local paleolithic HG ancestry rather than recent migrations imo.

[Jackson]

Just for interest's sake, here is the K13 & K15 for NE7, a Neolithic individual from the Hungarian plain. I think this was one of the ones with fair pigmentation as well if you're interested in that. Felix uploaded it to GEDmatch as F999928.

Edit: Yeah he had blue eyes and blond hair.
http://www.fc.id.au/2014/10/ancient-hungarian-genome-ne7-analysis.html

Very purely 'Atlanto-Med' you might say, only 3 components involved, close only to Sardinians as per usual, just very slightly more northern:

K13
North_Atlantic 28.13%
Baltic -
West_Med 51.81%
West_Asian -
East_Med 20.06%
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

1 Sardinian 5.67
2 Spanish_Andalucia 24.66
3 Spanish_Aragon 26.24
4 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 26.39
5 Spanish_Valencia 26.52
6 Spanish_Extremadura 26.79
7 North_Italian 26.79
8 Spanish_Cantabria 27.19
9 Spanish_Murcia 27.45
10 Southwest_French 27.6
11 Spanish_Galicia 28.4
12 Portuguese 28.43
13 Tuscan 28.46
14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 28.54
15 Spanish_Cataluna 29.1
16 French_Basque 29.98
17 West_Sicilian 30.68
18 South_Italian 33.27
19 Italian_Abruzzo 33.52
20 East_Sicilian 34.33

1 87.2% Sardinian + 12.8% French_Basque @ 3.63
2 88.8% Sardinian + 11.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.64
3 90.4% Sardinian + 9.6% Southwest_French @ 4.88
4 90.4% Sardinian + 9.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.91
5 90.3% Sardinian + 9.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.93
6 89.9% Sardinian + 10.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.98
7 90.7% Sardinian + 9.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 5
8 94.7% Sardinian + 5.3% Southwest_English @ 5.05
9 91.8% Sardinian + 8.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 5.06
10 95.1% Sardinian + 4.9% West_Scottish @ 5.07
11 91.5% Sardinian + 8.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.08
12 91.9% Sardinian + 8.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.11
13 95.3% Sardinian + 4.7% Irish @ 5.12
14 95% Sardinian + 5% Southeast_English @ 5.13
15 95.3% Sardinian + 4.7% Orcadian @ 5.14
16 92.1% Sardinian + 7.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.21
17 95.8% Sardinian + 4.2% North_Dutch @ 5.23
18 95.9% Sardinian + 4.1% Danish @ 5.25
19 96% Sardinian + 4% Norwegian @ 5.25
20 93% Sardinian + 7% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.26

K15
Population
North_Sea 6.59%
Atlantic 28.98%
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 47.89%
West_Asian -
East_Med 15.44%
Red_Sea 1.11%
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

1 Sardinian 7.68
2 Spanish_Andalucia 24.9
3 Spanish_Aragon 26.03
4 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 26.39
5 Spanish_Cantabria 26.59
6 Spanish_Valencia 26.59
7 Southwest_French 27.19
8 North_Italian 27.45
9 Spanish_Extremadura 27.56
10 Spanish_Murcia 27.81
11 Portuguese 28.32
12 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 28.74
13 French_Basque 28.94
14 Spanish_Cataluna 29.16
15 Spanish_Galicia 29.36
16 Tuscan 29.79
17 West_Sicilian 32.38
18 Greek 34.82
19 Italian_Abruzzo 34.92
20 South_Italian 35.18

1 84.7% Sardinian + 15.3% French_Basque @ 5.7
2 87.7% Sardinian + 12.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 6.82
3 89.1% Sardinian + 10.9% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 7.02
4 89.4% Sardinian + 10.6% Southwest_French @ 7.02
5 89.4% Sardinian + 10.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 7.06
6 89.8% Sardinian + 10.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 7.1
7 89.6% Sardinian + 10.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 7.17
8 91.8% Sardinian + 8.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 7.29
9 92.6% Sardinian + 7.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 7.34
10 92.6% Sardinian + 7.4% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 7.35
11 92.6% Sardinian + 7.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 7.38
12 96.2% Sardinian + 3.8% West_Scottish @ 7.44
13 96.2% Sardinian + 3.8% Irish @ 7.44
14 96% Sardinian + 4% Southeast_English @ 7.45
15 96.3% Sardinian + 3.7% Orcadian @ 7.45
16 96% Sardinian + 4% Southwest_English @ 7.45
17 93.9% Sardinian + 6.1% Portuguese @ 7.47
18 97% Sardinian + 3% Danish @ 7.53
19 96.2% Sardinian + 3.8% French @ 7.54
20 96.6% Sardinian + 3.4% South_Dutch @ 7.55

[Jackson]

A hypothetical 50/50 mix of those individuals is actually not far from the Austrian Average in regards to Baltic and North Atlantic. The main difference is that modern Austrians have several percent more Baltic, about 10% less West Med, a couple of percent less East Med, and more West Asian (7%) and bits of noise. I guess whoever came to Europe after NE7 was there, they must have had considerable Baltic & West Asian components.

Probably rubbish, but it's just fun to play around with the scores of these individuals lol.

[Graham]

West Neolithic to the max!

Goes to show that the Iberian Mesolithics( La Braña) have no resemblance to modern Spain, but this fella has some.

[Graham]

Check the K36 on that Jackson!

Italian 37.61%
West_Med 27.90%
Iberian 27.11%
Basque 7.38%

[Damião de Góis]

Goes to show that the Iberian Mesolithics( La Braña) have no resemblance to modern Spain, but this fella has some.

They seem to be in no man's land, east of Sardinians. Similar to Otzi?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xPGV13M4lSM/VEaknJoP-jI/AAAAAAAAJ0I/XmX-S48tr2A/s1600/ncomms6257-f2.jpg

[DanielJ1eH]

All are Oracle. Not Oracle-4.

I don't know what I am :(

Eurogenes - K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 35.87
2 West_Med 21.08
3 East_Med 20.41
4 Baltic 11.38
5 West_Asian 7.89
6 Red_Sea 1.24
7 Siberian 0.83
8 Northeast_African 0.61
9 Amerindian 0.51
10 Oceanian 0.16

1 North_Italian 6.02
2 Portuguese 9.05
3 Tuscan 9.32
4 Spanish_Murcia 9.57
5 Spanish_Extremadura 9.66
6 Spanish_Cataluna 10
7 Spanish_Valencia 10.2
8 Spanish_Andalucia 10.54
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.76
10 Spanish_Galicia 10.96
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.79
12 French 12.23
13 Spanish_Cantabria 13.7
14 Spanish_Aragon 14.2
15 Italian_Abruzzo 15.28
16 Southwest_French 15.43
17 West_Sicilian 15.76
18 Romanian 16.16
19 Greek_Thessaly 16.38
20 West_German 16.53

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 18.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.52
2 71.9% Tuscan + 28.1% Southeast_English @ 3.65
3 73% Tuscan + 27% Southwest_English @ 3.67
4 74.8% Tuscan + 25.2% West_Scottish @ 3.69
5 61.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 38.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.84
6 74.3% Tuscan + 25.7% Orcadian @ 3.88
7 74.9% Tuscan + 25.1% Irish @ 3.9
8 82.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.95
9 68.4% French + 31.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.95
10 57.8% Tuscan + 42.2% French @ 3.99
11 82.3% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.7% Assyrian @ 4.07
12 82.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.08
13 - 57% French + 43% West_Sicilian @ 4.3
14 67% Tuscan + 33% South_Dutch @ 4.31
15 75.1% Tuscan + 24.9% North_Dutch @ 4.32
16 75.1% Tuscan + 24.9% Danish @ 4.33
17 82.8% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.35
18 52% Southwest_English + 48% Italian_Jewish @ 4.35
19 64.5% French + 35.5% South_Italian @ 4.36
20 80.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 19.6% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.36


Eurogenes K-15

Population Percent
1 North_Sea 23.72
2 Atlantic 21.34
3 West_Med 18.04
4 East_Med 17.53
5 West_Asian 7.18
6 Eastern_Euro 6.83
7 Baltic 2.78
8 Red_Sea 1.28
9 Northeast_African 0.58
10 Amerindian 0.35
11 Siberian 0.32
12 Oceanian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 8.53
2 Portuguese 10.45
3 Tuscan 10.68
4 Spanish_Galicia 10.91
5 Spanish_Extremadura 11.22
6 Spanish_Murcia 11.39
7 Spanish_Cataluna 11.58
8 French 12.23
9 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.86
10 Spanish_Valencia 14.03
11 Spanish_Andalucia 14.06
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 14.68
13 Serbian 15.11
14 Italian_Abruzzo 15.32
15 Greek_Thessaly 15.49
16 Spanish_Cantabria 15.5
17 West_Sicilian 15.69
18 West_German 15.98
19 Romanian 16.06
20 South_Dutch 16.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.8% French + 33.2% Italian_Jewish @ 5.62
2 53.3% Southwest_English + 46.7% Italian_Jewish @ 5.78
3 68.8% French + 31.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.84
4 55.3% Southwest_English + 44.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.89
5 72.1% Tuscan + 27.9% Orcadian @ 5.98
6 57.7% French + 42.3% West_Sicilian @ 6.04
7 72.2% French + 27.8% Libyan_Jewish @ 6.05
8 74.8% French + 25.2% Cyprian @ 6.05
9 62.7% Tuscan + 37.3% West_German @ 6.06
10 56.8% West_Sicilian + 43.2% Southwest_English @ 6.09
11 74.3% Tuscan + 25.7% West_Norwegian @ 6.11
12 61.3% West_Sicilian + 38.7% Orcadian @ 6.15
13 50.5% West_Sicilian + 49.5% West_German @ 6.18
14 64.8% French + 35.2% South_Italian @ 6.21
15 78.6% French + 21.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 6.23
16 68.7% Tuscan + 31.3% Southwest_English @ 6.28
17 69.2% French + 30.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 6.3
18 78.7% French + 21.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.31
19 69.9% Tuscan + 30.1% Southeast_English @ 6.34
20 72.6% French + 27.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 6.41

[Grace O'Malley]

Here are the final versions of the K13 (http://www.filedropper.com/ancientbritoraclek13v5) and K15 (http://www.filedropper.com/ancientbritoraclek15v5) Oracle spreadsheets. They now include all 5 of the Hinxton samples. Here are my latest results:

http://i58.tinypic.com/5z3vk.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/28mpmk8.jpg

So, which ones are the Iron Age samples and which are from the Anglo-Saxon period? We know that 4 is likely an Iron Age Celt, but which is the other one?

These are the results for me and my brother.
K13
Hinxton 1 - 3.123127517
Hinxton 2 - 6.777738481
Hinxton 3 - 7.829678095
Hinxton 4 - 4.437054127
Hinxton 5 - 8.641439385

K15
Hinxton 1 - 8.498276841
Hinxton 2 - 8.992942561
Hinxton 3 - 12.25429646
Hinxton 4 - 5.542175842
Hinxton 5 - 8.00364733

Brother

K13
Hinxton 1 - 3.641502085
Hinxton 2 - 8.038883743
Hinxton 3 - 8.186124573
Hinxton 4 - 2.804701944
HInxton 5 - 10.32227785

K15
Hinxton 1 - 5.348590863
Hinxton 2 - 6.46773709
Hinxton 3 - 9.6293507
Hinxton 4 - 8.135573135
Hinxton 5 - 9.695080248

[Graham]

Once again shows that K13 is the more accurate.

[Graham]

My top Euclidean distance for K13, with some members typed in. Was doing K36. But the amount of fuckng numbers did me in.

Graham
3.56 West Scotland
4.49 Ireland
4.53 Orcadian
4.68 Graham Mum
5.03 Graham Dad
5.23 Grace O'Malley
5.24 Hinxton 4
5.52 North Dutch
5.64 South West England
5.72 South east England
5.72 Rfaton
6.08 Danish
6.19 Hinxton 1
6.39 Hinxton 2
6.41 Iceland
6.74 West Norway
6.93 Jackson Gran

[Oneeye]

Oneeye

K13

Hinxton1: 7.59

Hinxton2: 12.55

Hinxton3: 12.39

Hinxton4: 8.46

Hinxton5: 9.25

K15

hinxton1: 6.32

Hinxton2: 8.06

Hinxton3: 10.47

Hinxton4: 12.32

Hinxton5: 11.81

[Catkin]

Mine:
K13
Hinxton 1 - 3.889541477
Hinxton 2 - 8.799508124
Hinxton 3 - 9.431660724
Hinxton 4 - 4.542401568
Hinxton 5 - 7.889181983
K15
Hinxton 1 - 7.897588849
Hinxton 2 - 8.899371537
Hinxton 3 - 11.1463508
Hinxton 4 - 8.397688378
Hinxton 5 - 8.58543107

Mum's:
K13
Hinxton 1 - 4.73293903
Hinxton 2 - 11.31740817
Hinxton 3 - 11.34385124
Hinxton 4 - 5.644322197
Hinxton 5 - 9.706823529
K15
Hinxton 1 - 9.722979679
Hinxton 2 - 10.6915386
Hinxton 3 - 12.61224479
Hinxton 4 - 10.83174836
Hinxton 5 - 10.18612664

Dad's:
K13
Hinxton 1 - 4.570502216
Hinxton 2 - 8.354188119
Hinxton 3 - 8.485674339
Hinxton 4 - 4.596447259
Hinxton 5 - 9.099657372
K15
Hinxton 1 - 4.620696311
Hinxton 2 - 6.130408468
Hinxton 3 - 8.819307557
Hinxton 4 - 9.218439368
Hinxton 5 - 10.65553041

[Catkin]

I think some more populations must have been added because my top population previously was Irish and now it is North Dutch. Irish was correct previously.


Yeah, my top population switched from Irish to North Dutch with the added populations too. My parents both still score Irish as top.

[Oneeye]

Yeah, my top population switched from Irish to North Dutch with the added populations too. My parents both still score Irish as top.


I get South Dutch for top pop in K13 and North Dutch for top pop in K15. We undercover Dutch agents have had our mission compromised. ABORT ABORT















(On the more serious side, I was always getting Dutch though) :p

[Hevo]

I get South Dutch for top pop in K13 and North Dutch for top pop in K15. We undercover Dutch agents have had our mission compromised. ABORT ABORT















(On the more serious side, I was always getting Dutch though) :p


From which part of The Netherlands is your Netherlandic admixture from bro?:)

[Catkin]

I get South Dutch for top pop in K13 and North Dutch for top pop in K15. We undercover Dutch agents have had our mission compromised. ABORT ABORT




Damn, and it was going so well. Still, the world will never guess the influence we have had while operating secretly over the years...

Maybe it's time to free Elvis and Michael Jackson.

[Raven_]

edit.

[Oneeye]

From which part of The Netherlands is your Netherlandic admixture from bro?:)


I have a Dutch ancestor from Amsterdam that immigrated with her German husband to America in the 1860s, so North Holland? My adopted grandmother's father's surname was Van Horne, but I'm not certain where or when they came over. I can go way back to the New Netherland settlers, but that is very washed down with the subsequent English takeover.

[Alessio]

I have a Dutch ancestor from Amsterdam that immigrated with her German husband to America in the 1860s, so North Holland? My adopted grandmother's father's surname was Van Horne, but I'm not certain where or when they came over. I can go way back to the New Netherland settlers, but that is very washed down with the subsequent English takeover.

North Holland yes but Amsterdam is the only place in Noord Holland where the most foreigners have lived like Jews and Southern Europeans. Some neighborhoods were full of Jews and other minorities and today many words used in and around Amsterdam are of Yiddish origins like for example:

Mazzel>Penoze>Schlemiel>Gabber>Debiel>Aggenebis>Porem>Goochem etc...

[Hevo]

I have a Dutch ancestor from Amsterdam that immigrated with her German husband to America in the 1860s, so North Holland? My adopted grandmother's father's surname was Van Horne, but I'm not certain where or when they came over. I can go way back to the New Netherland settlers, but that is very washed down with the subsequent English takeover.

I see, Amsterdam has been a meltpot(less than 50% is ethnic Dutch at the moment unfortunately) for a long time and received alot migrations from different parts of The Netherlands but it's likely North Holland yes. Was it her biological father? Van Horne is a toponym so his ancestor could be originally from a place in North Holland or Limburg or even a descendant of the house Van Horne.(Dutch but also in German http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huis_Horne)

[Oneeye]

North Holland yes but Amsterdam is the only place in Noord Holland where the most foreigners have lived like Jews and Southern Europeans. Some neighborhoods were full of Jews and other minorities and today many words used in and around Amsterdam are of Yiddish origins like for example:

Mazzel>Penoze>Schlemiel>Gabber>Debiel>Aggenebis>Porem>Goochem etc...



Being the capital, I'm sure that it has a very diverse ethnic history.

She was on my father's side, and here is the breakdown of what I inherited from him:

(in speculative)

50.0%


From Father
50.0% European

Northern European

22.5% British & Irish

8.1% Scandinavian

7.8% French & German

10.0% Broadly Northern European

Southern European

0.8% Italian

0.4% Broadly Southern European

0.4% Broadly European

[Oneeye]

I see, Amsterdam has been a meltpot(less than 50% is ethnic Dutch at the moment unfortunately) for a long time and received alot migrations from different parts of The Netherlands but it's likely North Holland yes. Was it her biological father? Van Horne is a toponym so his ancestor could be originally from a place in North Holland or Limburg or even a descendant of the house Van Horne.(Dutch but also in German http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huis_Horne)


It is her father's name on her birth certificate, not her adoptive father.

[DanielJ1eH]

Eugenes EUtest V2 k15
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 19.89
2 Atlantic 17.70
3 West_Med 17.37
4 North_Sea 14.98
5 West_Asian 10.08
6 Baltic 9.56
7 Eastern_Euro 7.63
8 Red_Sea 2.60


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tuscan @ 7.031358
2 Greek_Thessaly @ 7.812098
3 Greek @ 8.245656
4 Bulgarian @ 9.323481
5 North_Italian @ 10.246492
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 10.283071
7 Romanian @ 10.563716
8 West_Sicilian @ 11.317686
9 Central_Greek @ 12.559914
10 Serbian @ 12.908987
11 East_Sicilian @ 13.217869
12 Ashkenazi @ 13.565723
13 South_Italian @ 15.954927
14 Portuguese @ 18.073250
15 Spanish_Extremadura @ 18.353392
16 Spanish_Galicia @ 18.650656
17 Spanish_Murcia @ 18.883776
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.298889
19 Spanish_Andalucia @ 19.344194
20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 19.821630

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian +50% West_Sicilian @ 3.297242


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% West_German +25% West_Sicilian @ 2.235316


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek + Serbian + Tuscan + Tuscan @ 2.099711
2 Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian + Serbian + West_Sicilian @ 2.108454
3 Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Italian + Serbian @ 2.121044
4 Central_Greek + Greek + North_Italian + Serbian @ 2.213172
5 Greek + North_Italian + Serbian + West_Sicilian @ 2.216911
6 Greek + Greek + West_German + West_Sicilian @ 2.235316
7 French + Greek + Greek + Greek_Thessaly @ 2.305579
8 Cyprian + East_German + Greek + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.340822
9 Central_Greek + Greek + Portuguese + Serbian @ 2.351277
10 Cyprian + East_German + Greek + Portuguese @ 2.357504
11 French + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 2.359991
12 Greek_Thessaly + Italian_Abruzzo + North_Italian + Serbian @ 2.368690
13 Greek + Portuguese + Serbian + South_Italian @ 2.394918
14 East_Sicilian + Greek + North_Italian + Serbian @ 2.435316
15 Bulgarian + Italian_Jewish + North_Italian + Serbian @ 2.445278
16 Cyprian + Greek + Hungarian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.456907
17 East_German + Greek + Italian_Jewish + North_Italian @ 2.459159
18 Italian_Abruzzo + Moldavian + North_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 2.468328
19 Greek + Serbian + South_Italian + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.468429
20 Central_Greek + Moldavian + North_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 2.483064
LMAO....3% Nigger.

So pure! You score more of it than I do. Red Sea has a component of SSA so guess what, you're in the same boat as me.

[Grace O'Malley]

LMAO....3% Nigger.

So pure! You score more of it than I do. Red Sea has a component of SSA so guess what, you're in the same boat as me.

Most people get a percentage of Red Sea no matter where they are from in Europe. I'm guessing it came with the Neolithic farmers. (Just a guess).

[Graham]

Most people get a percentage of Red Sea no matter where they are from in Europe. I'm guessing it came with the Neolithic farmers. (Just a guess).

it tends to be linked with East med. So you're most likely to be correct. close segments can get mixed on the lower end.

[Graham]

btw I'll give you an example of how similar segments can get mixed & when you add them together you can get a more realistic result.

here for K15.
North Sea
40.80 -- Hinxton1
34.80 -- Hinxton4
37.30 -- WScot
36.40 -- Irish
35.50 -- SOuth East England
35.20 -- South West England

Atlantic
27.40 -- Hinxton1
31.87 -- Hinxton4
30.46 -- WScot
30.66 -- irish
29.86 -- South East England
28.94 -- South West England

Atlantic + North Sea
68.22 -- Hinxton1
66.71 -- Hinxton4
67.79 -- WScot
67.04 -- irish
65.38 -- South East England
64.16 -- South West England

baltic
6.42 -- Hinxton1
13.90 -- Hinxton4
10.34 -- WScot
11.15 -- irish
10.34 -- South East England
11.15 -- South West England
Eastern Europe
12.73 -- Hinxton1
5.70 -- Hinxton4
8.90 -- WScot
8.12 -- irish
8.90 -- South East England
8.12 -- South West England
Baltic + East Europe
19.15 -- Hinxton1
19.60 -- Hinxton4
19.24 -- WScot
19.27 -- irish
18.25 -- South East England
17.71 -- South West England

In my opinion it would work far better for the calculations for everyone. You can see a better accuracy. But then again it also proves that K13 is better also, with less mixing. Perhaps K15 is too much.

[Stanley]

K13 is easily the most accurate test for me, oracle-wise. If you simplify my Colonial American 1/4 down to Southwest_English, and assume that Luxemburgish + Swedish = East_German, then the 4 ancestors oracle is basically my exact ancestry.

K13
Orcadian @ 5.43
83.5% Irish + 16.5% Moldavian @ 3.44
East_German + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.853435

K15
North_Dutch @ 5.15
81% Norwegian + 19% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.76
East_German + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian @ 3.876722

[TripMc]

Both Parents of Celtic, Norse, Saxon, Germanic descent.
K15 & K13 results below. Appreciate any insights.
Kit Num: A984521 (GEDMatch.com)

Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 35.05
2 Atlantic 26.90
3 Baltic 11.46
4 West_Med 8.85
5 Eastern_Euro 8.62
6 West_Asian 4.03
7 East_Med 2.46
8 South_Asian 1.32

Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 3.592455
2 North_Dutch @ 3.834850
3 Southwest_English @ 3.879416
4 Danish @ 4.112794
5 North_German @ 4.457744
6 Irish @ 4.817934
7 West_Scottish @ 5.279150
8 Orcadian @ 6.321291
9 South_Dutch @ 6.439960
10 West_German @ 7.133037
11 Norwegian @ 7.625258
12 Swedish @ 8.792774
13 West_Norwegian @ 9.084621
14 French @ 11.597180
15 North_Swedish @ 11.869884
16 East_German @ 12.996609
17 Southwest_Finnish @ 16.914179
18 Austrian @ 17.908716
19 Hungarian @ 18.181532
20 Finnish @ 20.467455

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% North_German +50% Southwest_English @ 2.017677

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Dutch +25% South_Dutch +25% Southwest_English @ 1.508544

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 1.349745
2 North_German + Southwest_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 1.371936
3 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + West_German @ 1.408820
4 South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Swedish @ 1.414081
5 French + North_German + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 1.448512
6 French + North_German + Orcadian + Swedish @ 1.461197
7 Irish + South_Dutch + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 1.470961
8 North_Dutch + North_German + Southwest_English + West_German @ 1.473031
9 North_German + South_Dutch + Southwest_English + West_Norwegian @ 1.484487
10 North_German + Orcadian + Southwest_English + West_German @ 1.488987
11 Danish + North_German + Southwest_English + West_German @ 1.495815
12 French + Irish + North_German + West_Norwegian @ 1.498803
13 Danish + Irish + Southwest_English + West_German @ 1.504241
14 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + South_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 1.508544
15 Orcadian + South_Dutch + South_Dutch + Swedish @ 1.519225
16 Hungarian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English @ 1.527719
17 Hungarian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southeast_English @ 1.528097
18 Irish + North_German + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.553214
19 French + North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 1.565956
20 North_German + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.567335
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Threshold of components set to 1.000
Threshold of method set to 0.25%
Personal data has been read. 20 approximations mode.

Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 47.88
2 Baltic 24.16
3 West_Med 13.31
4 West_Asian 5.61
5 East_Med 5.27
6 South_Asian 1.78
7 Oceanian 1.17


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Southeast_English @ 3.217075
2 Orcadian @ 4.773209
3 Danish @ 4.793658
4 North_Dutch @ 4.875052
5 North_German @ 4.977990
6 South_Dutch @ 5.441502
7 Southwest_English @ 5.793728
8 Irish @ 6.075046
9 West_German @ 6.450283
10 West_Scottish @ 6.649434
11 Norwegian @ 7.623616
12 Swedish @ 9.115330
13 French @ 12.064734
14 Austrian @ 12.800459
15 East_German @ 13.444632
16 North_Swedish @ 15.097530
17 Hungarian @ 18.137054
18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 20.386150
19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 21.795818
20 Southwest_French @ 21.833309

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Danish +50% South_Dutch @ 1.614948


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Southeast_English +25% Swedish +25% West_German @ 1.484342


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 North_German + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.109788
2 North_German + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.179726
3 Danish + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.187636
4 North_German + South_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English @ 1.201084
5 North_German + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_German @ 1.246039
6 North_Dutch + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.374138
7 Danish + French + North_German + Orcadian @ 1.440562
8 Danish + Orcadian + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.444638
9 Danish + French + Southeast_English + Swedish @ 1.463773
10 Irish + North_German + Southeast_English + West_German @ 1.467340
11 North_German + Southeast_English + West_German + West_Scottish @ 1.469990
12 Austrian + Southeast_English + Southeast_English + West_Scottish @ 1.479966
13 Southeast_English + Southeast_English + Swedish + West_German @ 1.484342
14 North_German + Orcadian + South_Dutch + Southeast_English @ 1.485166
15 Danish + Danish + Danish + French @ 1.497008
16 Danish + Orcadian + South_Dutch + West_German @ 1.502341
17 Danish + South_Dutch + West_German + West_Scottish @ 1.504195
18 Danish + Danish + French + North_Dutch @ 1.506868
19 French + North_German + Norwegian + Southeast_English @ 1.511192
20 Danish + French + North_German + Southeast_English @ 1.513449

Would appreciate any comments on what seems to be very low Fst Distances between 4 populations on both tests? Indicating anything?

Cheers!
Trip

[Not a Cop]

Would appreciate any comments on what seems to be very low Fst Distances between 4 populations on both tests? Indicating anything?

Cheers!
Trip

Low distances mean that you fit very well into the given mixture, though even your 3,2 distance in 1 pop mode is normal for an unmixed person.

[DRUM]

my results, any thoughts are welcome

K13

Admix Results (sorted):

#Population Percent
1 East_Med 24.22
2 West_Med 22.36
3 North_Atlantic 20.43
4 Baltic 16.13
5 West_Asian 11.89
6 Red_Sea 3.81
7 Amerindian 1.1
8 Oceanian 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 2.57
2 Central_Greek 8.17
3 Italian_Abruzzo 8.2
4 Tuscan 8.65
5 West_Sicilian 8.89
6 Bulgarian 9.12
7 East_Sicilian 9.4
8 Romanian 11.01
9 South_Italian 12.03
10 Ashkenazi 12.24
11 North_Italian 12.46
12 Serbian 15.14
13 Algerian_Jewish 17.87
14 Italian_Jewish 17.94
15 Sephardic_Jewish 18.14
16 Portuguese 20.51
17 Spanish_Extremadura 20.68
18 Moldavian 21.11
19 Spanish_Galicia 21.46
20 Spanish_Andalucia 21.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

#Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.2% Greek_Thessaly + 4.8% French_Basque @ 1.73
2 93.3% Greek_Thessaly + 6.7% Southwest_French @ 1.76
3 93.2% Greek_Thessaly + 6.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.81
4 87.1% Greek_Thessaly + 12.9% North_Italian @ 1.82
5 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.84
6 92.9% Greek_Thessaly + 7.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.84
7 93.7% Greek_Thessaly + 6.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.85
8 92.2% Greek_Thessaly + 7.8% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1.89
9 92.8% Greek_Thessaly + 7.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 1.92
10 93% Greek_Thessaly + 7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1.94
11 93.1% Greek_Thessaly + 6.9% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1.95
12 92.9% Greek_Thessaly + 7.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 1.95
13 92.8% Greek_Thessaly + 7.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 1.96
14 92.5% Greek_Thessaly + 7.5% Portuguese @ 1.97
15 95.1% Greek_Thessaly + 4.9% Sardinian @ 1.99
16 84.9% Greek_Thessaly + 15.1% Tuscan @ 2.1
17 94.5% Greek_Thessaly + 5.5% French @ 2.17
18 96.6% Greek_Thessaly + 3.4% Southwest_English @ 2.28
19 95.9% Greek_Thessaly + 4.1% South_Dutch @ 2.3
20 96.8% Greek_Thessaly + 3.2% Southeast_English @ 2.32

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 2.856107
2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 9.272739
3 Central_Greek @ 9.337496
4 Tuscan @ 9.821743
5 West_Sicilian @ 9.992197
6 Bulgarian @ 10.270970
7 East_Sicilian @ 10.639452
8 Romanian @ 12.486767
9 South_Italian @ 13.746553
10 Ashkenazi @ 14.033204
11 North_Italian @ 14.311978
12 Serbian @ 17.219612
13 Algerian_Jewish @ 20.344257
14 Italian_Jewish @ 20.533468
15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 20.657295
16 Portuguese @ 23.646627
17 Spanish_Extremadura @ 23.826036
18 Moldavian @ 24.045156
19 Spanish_Galicia @ 24.772758
20 Tunisian_Jewish @ 24.936678

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% West_Sicilian @ 2.765679

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +25% Southwest_French +25% Ukrainian @ 2.311679


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 2.209547
2 Cyprian + Cyprian + Southwest_French + Ukrainian @ 2.311679
3 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + West_Sicilian @ 2.387624
4 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.494354
5 Italian_Abruzzo + Lebanese_Druze + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.495322
6 Central_Greek + Moldavian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.495596
7 Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + North_Italian @ 2.502755
8 Bulgarian + East_Sicilian + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 2.505450
9 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 2.543225
10 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 2.545552
11 Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Romanian + Tuscan @ 2.558353
12 Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Romanian + West_Sicilian @ 2.560811
13 Croatian + Lebanese_Druze + Romanian + Sardinian @ 2.573374
14 Greek_Thessaly + Moldavian + South_Italian + West_Sicilian @ 2.580646
15 Cyprian + North_Italian + South_Italian + Ukrainian @ 2.586896
16 Croatian + Greek_Thessaly + South_Italian + South_Italian @ 2.600410
17 Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly + Tuscan @ 2.602310
18 Croatian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + North_Italian @ 2.606483
19 Central_Greek + Croatian + South_Italian + Tuscan @ 2.607275
20 Lebanese_Druze + Moldavian + Sardinian + Serbian @ 2.607359

K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 20.77
2 West_Med 17.9
3 Atlantic 16.94
4 West_Asian 12.42
5 North_Sea 10.58
6 Baltic 9.37
7 Eastern_Euro 7.58
8 Red_Sea 3.97
9 Amerindian 0.46

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek 4
2 Greek_Thessaly 6.35
3 Tuscan 6.9
4 Italian_Abruzzo 6.93
5 Central_Greek 8.03
6 West_Sicilian 8.09
7 Bulgarian 8.74
8 East_Sicilian 8.86
9 Ashkenazi 9.54
10 Romanian 10.89
11 South_Italian 10.99
12 North_Italian 11.36
13 Serbian 13.85
14 Italian_Jewish 15.24
15 Sephardic_Jewish 15.82
16 Algerian_Jewish 16.35
17 Spanish_Extremadura 18.37
18 Spanish_Andalucia 18.5
19 Portuguese 18.55
20 Spanish_Murcia 18.91

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.8% Greek + 15.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.31
2 85.6% Greek + 14.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.41
3 85.3% Greek + 14.7% Portuguese @ 2.44
4 77.8% Greek + 22.2% North_Italian @ 2.44
5 87.6% Greek + 12.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.48
6 86.8% Greek + 13.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.5
7 85.8% Greek + 14.2% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.54
8 67.6% Greek + 32.4% Tuscan @ 2.57
9 86.4% Greek + 13.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.6
10 86.5% Greek + 13.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.61
11 87.7% Greek + 12.3% French @ 2.61
12 88.2% Greek + 11.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.64
13 86% Greek + 14% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.68
14 88.5% Greek + 11.5% Southwest_French @ 2.7
15 87% Greek + 13% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.73
16 91.9% Greek + 8.1% French_Basque @ 2.86
17 89.9% Greek + 10.1% South_Dutch @ 2.9
18 91.6% Greek + 8.4% Southwest_English @ 2.91
19 92.1% Greek + 7.9% Southeast_English @ 3.01
20 92.8% Greek + 7.2% Orcadian @ 3.01

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 4.591119
2 Greek_Thessaly @ 7.413549
3 Tuscan @ 8.016777
4 Italian_Abruzzo @ 8.041930
5 West_Sicilian @ 9.326482
6 Central_Greek @ 9.411922
7 Bulgarian @ 9.982043
8 East_Sicilian @ 10.236938
9 Ashkenazi @ 10.861357
10 Romanian @ 12.539998
11 South_Italian @ 12.916458
12 North_Italian @ 13.261255
13 Serbian @ 16.077028
14 Italian_Jewish @ 17.688066
15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 18.327539
16 Algerian_Jewish @ 18.941885
17 Spanish_Extremadura @ 21.475588
18 Spanish_Andalucia @ 21.585373
19 Portuguese @ 21.677197
20 Spanish_Murcia @ 22.113165

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% West_Sicilian @ 3.344158

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Cyprian +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.624859

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cyprian + Greek + Moldavian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.435946
2 Cyprian + Greek + Romanian + Southwest_French @ 2.500411
3 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Greek + Southwest_French @ 2.527536
4 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Greek + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.570599
5 Cyprian + Greek + Romanian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.624054
6 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Cyprian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.624859
7 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Moldavian + Southwest_French @ 2.700966
8 Cyprian + Moldavian + South_Italian + Southwest_French @ 2.708005
9 Cyprian + Greek + Moldavian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.722700
10 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.727563
11 Central_Greek + Croatian + Cyprian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.752553
12 Greek + Greek + Greek + North_Italian @ 2.777408
13 Cyprian + Greek + Serbian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.788681
14 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Cyprian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.814837
15 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.844838
16 Bulgarian + Greek + Italian_Abruzzo + Tuscan @ 2.856212
17 Cyprian + Greek + Romanian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.877164
18 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Romanian + Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.881419
19 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Southwest_French @ 2.882110
20 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Moldavian + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.889185

[Kelmendasi]

K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 24.43
2 East_Med 24.38
3 Baltic 20.62
4 North_Atlantic 18.38
5 West_Asian 8.43
6 Red_Sea 3.54
7 Oceanian 0.15
8 East_Asian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 6.2
2 Bulgarian 8.82
3 Romanian 11.01
4 Central_Greek 12.15
5 Tuscan 12.16
6 West_Sicilian 12.81
7 East_Sicilian 13.02
8 Italian_Abruzzo 13.35
9 Ashkenazi 14.52
10 Serbian 14.53
11 North_Italian 14.59
12 South_Italian 15.81
13 Moldavian 19.57
14 Algerian_Jewish 20.08
15 Italian_Jewish 20.69
16 Sephardic_Jewish 21.42
17 Portuguese 21.98
18 Croatian 22.25
19 Spanish_Extremadura 22.43
20 Hungarian 22.58

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.9% Bulgarian + 19.1% Sardinian @ 5.04
2 91.1% Greek_Thessaly + 8.9% Ukrainian @ 5.52
3 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% Estonian_Polish @ 5.52
4 93.4% Greek_Thessaly + 6.6% Lithuanian @ 5.54
5 88.8% Greek_Thessaly + 11.2% Croatian @ 5.57
6 92.9% Greek_Thessaly + 7.1% Belorussian @ 5.59
7 92.4% Greek_Thessaly + 7.6% Polish @ 5.6
8 92.8% Greek_Thessaly + 7.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.6
9 91.3% Greek_Thessaly + 8.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.6
10 92.6% Greek_Thessaly + 7.4% Southwest_Russian @ 5.64
11 93.9% Greek_Thessaly + 6.1% Estonian @ 5.65
12 88% Greek_Thessaly + 12% Moldavian @ 5.65
13 92% Greek_Thessaly + 8% South_Polish @ 5.66
14 93.5% Greek_Thessaly + 6.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 5.68
15 92.6% Greek_Thessaly + 7.4% Sardinian @ 5.7
16 93.8% Greek_Thessaly + 6.2% Erzya @ 5.7
17 93.1% Greek_Thessaly + 6.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.71
18 73.7% Greek_Thessaly + 26.3% Bulgarian @ 5.72
19 94.5% Greek_Thessaly + 5.5% East_Finnish @ 5.75
20 94.8% Greek_Thessaly + 5.2% Finnish @ 5.81


K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 20.48
2 West_Med 20.21
3 Atlantic 14.31
4 Baltic 13.63
5 North_Sea 11.96
6 West_Asian 9.17
7 Eastern_Euro 6.44
8 Red_Sea 3.81

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 5.38
2 Greek 5.98
3 Bulgarian 8.3
4 Tuscan 8.87
5 Romanian 10.5
6 Central_Greek 10.6
7 Italian_Abruzzo 10.91
8 West_Sicilian 11.14
9 East_Sicilian 11.18
10 Ashkenazi 11.55
11 North_Italian 11.88
12 South_Italian 13.28
13 Serbian 13.44
14 Italian_Jewish 17.19
15 Algerian_Jewish 18.03
16 Moldavian 18.15
17 Sephardic_Jewish 18.36
18 Portuguese 18.59
19 Spanish_Galicia 18.75
20 Spanish_Extremadura 18.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.7% Greek_Thessaly + 13.3% Southwest_French @ 4.12
2 89.5% Greek_Thessaly + 10.5% Sardinian @ 4.13
3 91% Greek_Thessaly + 9% French_Basque @ 4.3
4 85.6% Greek_Thessaly + 14.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.35
5 86.6% Greek_Thessaly + 13.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.41
6 88.1% Greek_Thessaly + 11.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.41
7 87.8% Greek_Thessaly + 12.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.42
8 82% Greek + 18% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.45
9 80.7% Bulgarian + 19.3% Sardinian @ 4.48
10 87.8% Greek_Thessaly + 12.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.5
11 79.2% Greek_Thessaly + 20.8% North_Italian @ 4.55
12 87.5% Greek_Thessaly + 12.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.62
13 87.8% Greek_Thessaly + 12.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.67
14 87.5% Greek_Thessaly + 12.5% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.69
15 87.9% Greek_Thessaly + 12.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.7
16 87.6% Greek_Thessaly + 12.4% Portuguese @ 4.74
17 83.3% Greek + 16.7% Portuguese @ 4.78
18 59.3% Greek_Thessaly + 40.7% Greek @ 4.78
19 73.3% Greek_Thessaly + 26.7% Bulgarian @ 4.78
20 88.1% Greek_Thessaly + 11.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.8

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.02
2 East_Med 21.72
3 West_Med 21.65
4 Baltic 17.76
5 West_Asian 9.75
6 Red_Sea 2.22
7 South_Asian 0.86
8 Siberian 0.4
9 Oceanian 0.37
10 East_Asian 0.2
11 Amerindian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 6.7
2 Bulgarian 7.53
3 Romanian 8.07
4 Tuscan 8.08
5 North_Italian 9.15
6 Italian_Abruzzo 11.13
7 Serbian 11.41
8 West_Sicilian 11.79
9 Central_Greek 12.88
10 East_Sicilian 13.9
11 Ashkenazi 16.16
12 South_Italian 16.32
13 Portuguese 16.44
14 Spanish_Extremadura 17.04
15 Spanish_Galicia 17.37
16 Moldavian 18.1
17 Spanish_Murcia 18.13
18 Spanish_Cataluna 18.13
19 Spanish_Valencia 18.25
20 Spanish_Andalucia 18.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.8% Bulgarian + 48.2% Tuscan @ 1.7
2 50% Tuscan + 50% Romanian @ 1.79
3 55.2% Bulgarian + 44.8% North_Italian @ 2.14
4 74.5% Greek_Thessaly + 25.5% French @ 2.19
5 69.9% Tuscan + 30.1% Moldavian @ 2.29
6 82.5% Greek_Thessaly + 17.5% Southwest_English @ 2.4
7 77.9% Greek_Thessaly + 22.1% South_Dutch @ 2.42
8 81.8% Greek_Thessaly + 18.2% Southeast_English @ 2.47
9 80.7% Tuscan + 19.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.57
10 77.8% Greek_Thessaly + 22.2% Southwest_French @ 2.58
11 82.8% Tuscan + 17.2% Erzya @ 2.58
12 74.4% Greek_Thessaly + 25.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.6
13 77.1% Greek_Thessaly + 22.9% West_German @ 2.62
14 83% Greek_Thessaly + 17% Orcadian @ 2.66
15 80.6% Tuscan + 19.4% Southwest_Russian @ 2.68
16 59.3% Tuscan + 40.7% Serbian @ 2.74
17 83.7% Greek_Thessaly + 16.3% West_Scottish @ 2.76
18 83.6% Greek_Thessaly + 16.4% Irish @ 2.81
19 72.9% Tuscan + 27.1% Croatian @ 2.81
20 77.4% Greek_Thessaly + 22.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.9

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 19.07
2 East_Med 18.16
3 West_Med 17.25
4 Atlantic 14.7
5 Baltic 10.61
6 West_Asian 9.95
7 Eastern_Euro 6.81
8 Red_Sea 2.54
9 South_Asian 0.6
10 Oceanian 0.26
11 Southeast_Asian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 6.77
2 Romanian 8.44
3 Bulgarian 8.64
4 Tuscan 8.76
5 Serbian 9.91
6 North_Italian 10.15
7 Greek 10.17
8 Italian_Abruzzo 11.52
9 Central_Greek 12.81
10 West_Sicilian 13.09
11 Ashkenazi 13.43
12 East_Sicilian 13.47
13 Spanish_Galicia 15.27
14 Portuguese 15.49
15 South_Italian 15.94
16 Moldavian 15.99
17 Hungarian 16.38
18 Spanish_Extremadura 16.42
19 French 16.6
20 Spanish_Cataluna 16.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.8% Greek_Thessaly + 21.2% Southwest_English @ 1.85
2 74.1% Greek_Thessaly + 25.9% West_German @ 1.9
3 75.1% Greek_Thessaly + 24.9% South_Dutch @ 2.08
4 71.9% Greek_Thessaly + 28.1% French @ 2.1
5 79.6% Greek_Thessaly + 20.4% Southeast_English @ 2.12
6 81.4% Greek_Thessaly + 18.6% Orcadian @ 2.13
7 81.2% Greek_Thessaly + 18.8% West_Scottish @ 2.3
8 82% Greek_Thessaly + 18% West_Norwegian @ 2.33
9 80.4% Greek_Thessaly + 19.6% North_Dutch @ 2.35
10 80.4% Greek_Thessaly + 19.6% Danish @ 2.37
11 81% Greek_Thessaly + 19% Irish @ 2.42
12 81.2% Greek_Thessaly + 18.8% Norwegian @ 2.42
13 79.3% Greek_Thessaly + 20.7% North_German @ 2.74
14 81.5% Greek_Thessaly + 18.5% Swedish @ 2.8
15 81.9% Greek_Thessaly + 18.1% North_Swedish @ 3.11
16 76.4% Greek_Thessaly + 23.6% East_German @ 3.34
17 72.1% Greek_Thessaly + 27.9% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.59
18 65.9% Greek + 34.1% West_German @ 3.62
19 74.3% Greek_Thessaly + 25.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.73
20 73.1% Greek_Thessaly