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Anglojew
10-13-2014, 11:22 AM
The House of Bernadotte (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bernadotte), the current royal house of Sweden, has reigned since 1818. Between 1818 and 1905, it was also the royal house of Norway. Its founder, Charles XIV John of Sweden (who was born Jean Bernadotte), was adopted by Charles XIII of Sweden, who belonged to the House of Holstein-Gottorp which was becoming extinct.


Bernadotte, Kings of Sweden - it is argued by the S-G (http://semigotha.blogspot.com.au/2014/02/noble-families-of-jewish-ancestry.html) that the Bernadotte family were originally Jewish, but they are listed as such only in a footnote. (Semi-Gotha, or Historisch-genealoges-Taschenbuch des gesamted Adels jehuidäischen Ursprunges of 1912 and 1913, and the Semigothaisches Genealogisches Taschenbuch aristokratisch-jüdischer heiraten of 1914)

Sweden

Charles XIV John of Sweden

http://media.napoleon-images.us/tableaux/bernadotte.jpg

Oscar I

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/71/Erik_%28Wahlberg%29_Wahlbergson_-_Oscar_I,_King_of_Sweden_and_Norway_1844-1859_-_Google_Art_Project.jpg

Charles XV (Karl XV)

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111025163208/althistory/images/a/a0/Charles_XV_Sweden.png

Oscar II

http://www.ordersandmedals.net/Norway/Lion/History/Lion%20Oscar%20II%202.jpg

Gustaf V

http://www.nndb.com/people/269/000111933/gustav-v.jpg

Gustaf VI Adolf

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Gustaf_VI_Adolf_av_Sverige_som_kronprins.jpg

Carl XVI Gustaf

http://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/royalty/201011054447/king-carl-gustaf/queen-silvia-of-sweden/marriage-profile/0-13-7/coronation--a.jpg

Anglojew
10-13-2014, 11:32 AM
Oscar I is particularly Armenid. The first three generations look distinctly Jewish but by the fourth no longer so.

Odin
10-31-2017, 07:58 PM
1. Armenoid.
2. Armenoid.
3. Atlanto-Med.
4. Noric + Alpine.
5. North Atlantid.
6. Trønder.
7. Atlantid + Alpine.

Columella
10-31-2017, 09:30 PM
Bernadotte was a Gascon. Never heard this Jewish thesis so title is misleading. At least put some “quotes”

Bernadotte looks typical S French, would possobly pass well in Northern Italy.
Big Dinaric type. Not a particularly good general but great at PR.
His descent turned Nordic.

Anglojew
11-04-2017, 04:12 AM
Bernadotte was a Gascon. Never heard this Jewish thesis so title is misleading. At least put some “quotes”

Bernadotte looks typical S French, would possobly pass well in Northern Italy.
Big Dinaric type. Not a particularly good general but great at PR.
His descent turned Nordic.

The Semi-Gotha is a highly respected Almanac.

StonyArabia
11-04-2017, 04:19 AM
Interesting are they Sephardi or Ashkenazi?

Anglojew
11-04-2017, 04:28 AM
Interesting are they Sephardi or Ashkenazi?

From memory Sephardi but I could be wrong. They'd probably be 1/16th Jewish by now anyway.

How are you going? How's things?

Arduti
11-04-2017, 04:32 AM
Do you have information about their haplogroups?

Anglojew
11-04-2017, 04:40 AM
I should mention that this puts a new spin on the assassination of Folke Bernadotte by Jewish Nationalists although I haven't figured out exactly what. Possibly some sort of inter-Frankist conflict?

StonyArabia
11-04-2017, 04:40 AM
From memory Sephardi but I could be wrong. They'd probably be 1/16th Jewish by now anyway.

How are you going? How's things?

Yeah they are mostly Swedes now. I am pretty good thanks. They are good. From what I know most French Jews were Sephardis before the migration of the Ashkenazim and Mizrahim recently toward France. Since Mizrahim and Sephardim could become problematic due to many Mizrahis adhering to the Sephardic rite. Many Sephardic Jews who got expelled from Spain often settled in Western Europe especially Britain, Holland, and southern France due to more tolerance.

Anglojew
11-04-2017, 04:42 AM
Yeah they are mostly Swedes now. I am pretty good thanks. They are good. From what I know most French Jews were Sephardis before the migration of the Ashkenazim and Mizrahim recently toward France. Since Mizrahim and Sephardim could become problematic due to many Mizrahis adhering to the Sephardic rite. Many Sephardic Jews who got expelled from Spain often settled in Western Europe especially Britain, Holland, and southern France due to more tolerance.

Yes. I was reading about Sephardi Jews migrating to Yemen this week. I hadn't realised they got that far before.

Longobarda
11-04-2017, 07:24 AM
What do you think about the city of Ibra, Ash Sharqiyah Region of Oman? Does it have hebrew origin due to its name?

Rethel
11-04-2017, 09:44 AM
Jewish House... :picard2:

Columella
11-04-2017, 09:49 AM
The Semi-Gotha is a highly respected Almanac.

Well you are spreading misinformation. Bernadotte were Catholic Gascons end of story.


King Charles John's first known paternal ancestor was Joandou du Poey, who was a shepherd. He married Germaine de Bernadotte in 1615 in the southern French city of Pau and began using her surname. Through her the couple owned a building there called de Bernadotte.[2]

A grandson of theirs, Jean Bernadotte (1649–1698), was a weaver.[3]

Another Jean Bernadotte (1683–1760), his son, was a tailor.[4]

His son Henri Bernadotte (1711–1780), father of the future Swedish–Norwegian king, was a local prosecutor, from a family of weavers and artisans,[5] who had once been imprisoned for debt.[6][7] This was a modest family which occupied only one floor of the house in a cross street in a popular and peripheral district of Pau.[8]

Rethel
11-04-2017, 09:51 AM
This is the oldest (https://www.geni.com/people/Jean-de-Latour/6000000001561996005) Bernadotte's ancestor. Nothing jewish in him.

Maintenance
11-04-2017, 10:10 AM
Jews supporting nazi germany, good one

wvwvw
11-04-2017, 10:20 AM
First and third pics do not look Jewish, if by Jewish you mean levantine or Armenid.

First one looks Dinarid. And third one looks fully Med Euro.

It is only Oskar I who looks Levantine of the bunch.

Anglojew
11-05-2017, 01:26 AM
Jews supporting nazi germany, good one

Plenty of Jewish Nazis eg Milch

The top Nazis were mostly Frankists. Goering's brother was ineligible for a riteous gentile award because he's probably Jewish.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-israeli-honor-eludes-goerings-brother-who-heroically-saved-jews/