why Saudi Arabians are the most Purest Middle easterners in autosomal studies?

[aleppo]

least mixed arabs and middle easterners with SSA/South Asians/East Asians/ Central and East Eurasians are saudi arabians?

for example, Levantines are more African/Mongoloid/ausraloid/turkic/Siberian admixed than saudi arabians ?

this is because saudi arabians are the least interracial mixed population in middle east according to many autosomal studies.

so they're the most purest west asians in the Genetic autosomal studies?! and the most Purest caucasoid ever in middle east? how it's true?

just Looking at their faces ... I can't Believe it !



http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/worldfootball/nationalteams/01/90/07/49/1900749_full-lnd.jpg
http://gulfnews.com/polopoly_fs/1.717042!/image/3890723173.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_640/3890723173.jpg
http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/worldfootball/nationalteams/01/34/65/38/1346538_full-lnd.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_4XMbo8Bae0Y/TQEWMzPBStI/AAAAAAAAAVk/5CpeOZbfNpE/s1600/soccer.jpg
http://alrroya.com/files/imagecache/NodeBig/rbimages/saudi_football_team.jpg
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51665000/jpg/_51665263_saudipolice_ap.jpg
http://nimg.sulekha.com/others/original700/mideast-saudi-arabia-hajj-2008-12-9-9-33-14.jpg

and for my last question

why are saudi arabians representatives for west asian admixture in Europe in the autosomal studies?
do you believe that saudi arabians are mixed with italians? that's why italians have a lot of west asian Genes?

http://cdn.eupedia.com/images/content/West-Asian-admixture.gif
http://cdn.eupedia.com/images/content/Southwest-Asian-admixture.gif

[aleppo]

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[Gaston]

They are not. The purest Arabians are yemenite Jews, they are like Saudis but their endogamy prevented them from mixing with Sub-saharan Africans, South Asians/East Asians or even Near Easterners (some Arabians are clearly shifted towards the Levant). That's why you can find both "pure" and mixed Saudis very easily.
Saudi is by the way a recent and artificial identity.

The expression Middle Eastern is by the way quite broad and includes people with different influences: Levantines, Arabians, Mesopotamians, Anatolians, Caucasians (North and South), Iranics... So there is no pure population since they have always been different from day one.



Some bedouins from Israel (Negev) and the Sinai are the last Middle Easterners without ANE ancestry (Ancient North Eurasians). They are located at the junction between the southern Levant, North Africa and Arabia.

[aleppo]

Turks for example are 25% to 12% Non-caucasoid according to the Autosomal (mostly mongoloid turkic around 15%)
Lebanese are 9% african admixed according to Decoded and about 22% total admixture of Non caucasoid Genes from south asians /East Asians/ Central and East Eurasians.

while saudi arabians are only 6% non caucasoid admixed including (SSA/South asians /East Asians/ Central and East Eurasians) !

how it's possible?

[Gaston]

There is no such thing as genetically caucasoid.

I don't know where you get these numbers from. You have to say if it's an ADMIXTURE test (or less likely a STRUCTURE one), what K you are talking about and who did the analysis. Otherwise, your numbers have no meaning.

[aleppo]

LOL !
I'm Genetically speaking about non-west Eurasians admixtures in west asia/middle east !
so if you look at Behar et al 2010 and Dedecad Project (you will see how much are saudi arabians purely (west eurasians=caucasoid) compared to the rest of Middle easterners and west asians)

[Gaston]

West Eurasian doesn't mean anything anymore for now. You're not up-to-date in population genetics.

You should read the last major paper in date, Lazaridis et al. 2013.

[turkojew]

cause abduls defended themselves well and noone conquered saudi arabia except ottomans. so no race mixed.

[aleppo]

LOL !
according to Lazaridis et al. 2013
saudi arabians and Bedouins have 100% of west Asian admixture . This admixture is found among all populations with substantial levels of Y-haplogroups J1 and J2, such as the Arabs, Italians , Turks, armenians , Kurds , Iraqis , Levantines, Cypriots, Greeks, Sicilians, Maltese, spaniards, french, Iranians, East Africans and many more.

so this prove my point of view since the begining of this theard. saudi arabians are purely caucasoids in comparaison to other west asians/middle easterns?

you're telling me your arguments with such evidence ! LOL

[aleppo]

so saudi arabians are the most purest caucasoids in middle east and west asia?

[Gaston]

LOL !
according to Lazaridis et al. 2013
saudi arabians and Bedouins have 100% of west Asian admixture . This admixture is found among all populations with substantial levels of Y-haplogroups J1 and J2, such as the Arabs, Italians , Turks, armenians , Kurds , Iraqis , Levantines, Cypriots, Greeks, Sicilians, Maltese, spaniards, french, Iranians, East Africans and many more.

so this prove my point of view since the begining of this theard. saudi arabians are purely caucasoids in comparaison to other west asians/middle easterns?

you're telling me your arguments with such evidence ! LOL

Just No. You lose credibility not only because you didn't read Lazaridis et al. but also because you're writing "Lol".

As I said, native Arabians are best represented by Yemenite Jews. Their ancestry is composed of Basal Eurasian, Unknown (as for now) Hunter-Gatherer, Ancestral East African and finally a more recent influence (post-neolithic) which is Ancient North Eurasian.

If you know which of these 4 components is the caucasoid one, enlighten us with your knowledge. In any case, pure native Arabians are "quadracial" (to speak your racially obsessed language).

[wvwvw]

Hello ButlerKing

You're being paranoid

[aleppo]

Just No. You lose credibility not only because you didn't read Lazaridis et al. but also because you're writing "Lol".

As I said, native Arabians are best represented by Yemenite Jews. Their ancestry is composed of Basal Eurasian, Unknown (as for now) Hunter-Gatherer, Ancestral East African and finally a more recent influence (post-neolithic) which is Ancient North Eurasian.

If you know which of these 4 components is the caucasoid one, enlighten us with your knowledge. In any case, pure native Arabians are "quadracial" (to speak your racially obsessed language).

Yemenites Jews are Q1 Y-DNA carriers ! it's an amirindian DNA
how they would be the native arabians as you believe so ? LOL

I didn't lose credibilty , according to Lazaridis et al. 2013
saudi arabians and Bedouins have 100% of west Asian admixture (west Eurasian = caucasoid)

source:
http://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/29427-Analysing-Eurasian-amp-African-autosomal-DNA-from-Lazaridis-et-al-2013

the only one here who didn't read Lazaridis et al , was you !
such mouthy and in denial you're !

[aleppo]

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[SardiniaAtlantis]

You are about as clever, as you are good at English.

[aleppo]

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[wvwvw]

Because they keep the word of Allah best

In return Allah keeps them pure

[aleppo]

lol

[Yuffayur]

Just No. You lose credibility not only because you didn't read Lazaridis et al. but also because you're writing "Lol".

As I said, native Arabians are best represented by Yemenite Jews. Their ancestry is composed of Basal Eurasian, Unknown (as for now) Hunter-Gatherer, Ancestral East African and finally a more recent influence (post-neolithic) which is Ancient North Eurasian.

If you know which of these 4 components is the caucasoid one, enlighten us with your knowledge. In any case, pure native Arabians are "quadracial" (to speak your racially obsessed language).

http://www.eupedia.com/images/content/Admixtures-Lazaridis.png

You can clearly see that Saudis here have more West/Southwest asian component even higher than any other population exepct the Bedouins. and you can also see that Some saudi samples don't show any east african ancestry (ssa) "the one in the far left and the third in the left" while all Yemeni jews have minor east african.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Oa3bBts6e3M/Ur6VH_81tpI/AAAAAAAAAUI/JGoPs1UmWyA/s1600/Lazaridis2014_EDF3_K6.png

here in the K6 you can also see that saudis are mostly West eurasian with minor SSA and Asian, actually they are the west asian population (if we exclude the georgians and the jews) with the least non eurasian admixture, even Yemeni jews have more ssa.

Personally I don't believe in these shits anymore, clearly faked .

[Gaston]

You can clearly see that Saudis here have more West/Southwest asian component even higher than any other population exepct the Bedouins. and you can also see that Some saudi samples don't show any east african ancestry (ssa) "the one in the far left and the third in the left" while all Yemeni jews have minor east african.
here in the K6 you can also see that saudis are mostly West eurasian with minor SSA and Asian, actually they are the west asian population (if we exclude the georgians and the jews) with the least non eurasian admixture, even Yemeni jews have more ssa.

Personally I don't believe in these shits anymore, clearly faked .

"West Eurasian" doesn't mean anything anymore. There is no ancestral West Eurasian component anymore for now, what links "West Eurasian populations" (Europeans, Middle Easterners and North Africans) is the common Ancient Near Eastern ancestry which is a mix of unknown hunter-gatherers and Basal Eurasian. Other ancestral populations are also shared to an extent by some West Eurasians such as Western Hunter-Gatherer ancestry, Ancient North Eurasian ancestry, African ancestry of different types, East Asian (or Siberian) or South Asian ancestry.

[Shepherd]

Saudi Arabians dont score high West Asian at all actually, more like Southwest Asian

[aleppo]

Saudi Arabians dont score high West Asian at all actually, more like Southwest Asian

what's the difference between west asian and southwest asian? aren't they the same shit ?

[aleppo]

"West Eurasian" doesn't mean anything anymore. There is no ancestral West Eurasian component anymore for now, what links "West Eurasian populations" (Europeans, Middle Easterners and North Africans) is the common Ancient Near Eastern ancestry which is a mix of unknown hunter-gatherers and Basal Eurasian. Other ancestral populations are also shared to an extent by some West Eurasians such as Western Hunter-Gatherer ancestry, Ancient North Eurasian ancestry, African ancestry of different types, East Asian (or Siberian) or South Asian ancestry.

anyway saudi arabians and bedouins are nearly 100% west asian (southwest asian), they're less influenced by SSA and south asian/East Asian than levantines and other west asian populations including jews of Isreal.

so they're the most purest indigenous west asian according to Lazarids.

[Gaston]

what's the difference between west asian and southwest asian? aren't they the same shit ?

West Asian is usually a mix of ancient Near Eastern (Basal Eurasian + unknown but WHG-like hunter-gatherer) and minor but substantial Ancient North Eurasian (post-Neolithic migrants in Western Eurasia). Southwest Asian is usually plain Near Eastern (hybrid of Basal Eurasian + Unknown hunter-gatherer) with minor Ancestral East African.

[aleppo]

West Asian is usually a mix of ancient Near Eastern (Basal Eurasian + unknown but WHG-like hunter-gatherer) and minor but substantial Ancient North Eurasian (post-Neolithic migrants in Western Eurasia). Southwest Asian is usually plain Near Eastern (hybrid of Basal Eurasian + Unknown hunter-gatherer) with minor Ancestral East African.

so southwest asian is partially SSA?

[Gaston]

^ It often is, yes. If a Saudi is 100% Southwest Asian, it means he created a component centered on himself and other inbred Saudis.

anyway saudi arabians and bedouins are nearly 100% west asian (southwest asian), they're less influenced by SSA and south asian/East Asian than levantines and other west asian populations including jews of Isreal.

so they're the most purest indigenous west asian according to Lazarids.

Arabians are indigenous to Arabia and nowhere else. They are not pure, just like all modern populations on this planet, since they are genetically a mix of Ancestral East Africans, Ancient North Eurasians, Basal Eurasians and Unknown Hunter-Gatherers.

[aleppo]

^ It often is, yes. If a Saudi is 100% Southwest Asian, it means he created a component centered on himself and other inbred Saudis.


Arabians are indigenous to Arabia and nowhere else. They are not pure, just like all modern populations on this planet, since they are genetically a mix of Ancestral East Africans, Ancient North Eurasians, Basal Eurasians and Unknown Hunter-Gatherers.

ancestral east african? are they like bushmens?

[Shepherd]

what's the difference between west asian and southwest asian? aren't they the same shit ?

No
http://i.imgur.com/JtzHM9W.png

[Hadouken]

what's the difference between west asian and southwest asian? aren't they the same shit ?

if you are Syrian or any kind of West Asian then I will eat my arm

Mods please check this guy

all his threads seemed trollish to begin with

I guess he is a south asian trolling west asians

AGAIN

[Anglojew]

Turks for example are 25% to 12% Non-caucasoid according to the Autosomal (mostly mongoloid turkic around 15%)
Lebanese are 9% african admixed according to Decoded and about 22% total admixture of Non caucasoid Genes from south asians /East Asians/ Central and East Eurasians.

while saudi arabians are only 6% non caucasoid admixed including (SSA/South asians /East Asians/ Central and East Eurasians) !

how it's possible?

1. For Turks because Turks moved to, and Turkified Irano-Armenians, from Central Asia. How is this a surprise?

2. You're incorrect about Saudis:

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/10/59

[Gaston]

ancestral east african? are they like bushmens?

No, like an extinct population which contributed most to modern-day East Africans (between Sudan and Somalia).

[aleppo]

No, like an extinct population which contributed most to modern-day East Africans (between Sudan and Somalia).
very Interesting :) thx for the infos

[wvwvw]

Turks for example are 25% to 12% Non-caucasoid according to the Autosomal (mostly mongoloid turkic around 15%)
Lebanese are 9% african admixed according to Decoded and about 22% total admixture of Non caucasoid Genes from south asians /East Asians/ Central and East Eurasians.

while saudi arabians are only 6% non caucasoid admixed including (SSA/South asians /East Asians/ Central and East Eurasians) !

how it's possible?

https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/populations_Lebanese_5751.png

[Hadouken]

Turks for example are 25% to 12% Non-caucasoid according to the Autosomal (mostly mongoloid turkic around 15%)
Lebanese are 9% african admixed according to Decoded and about 22% total admixture of Non caucasoid Genes from south asians /East Asians/ Central and East Eurasians.

while saudi arabians are only 6% non caucasoid admixed including (SSA/South asians /East Asians/ Central and East Eurasians) !

how it's possible?

oh hello ButlerKing :bored:

man how obsessed can you be seriously

as I said you are 1000% a troll ...most probably a south asian obsessed with west asians

there is no way you are Syrian