White American 23andme results

[Cristiano viejo]

1: There are no mestizos, and mulattoes here who claim to be White.
Somebody wants to be White, I can not believe in USA this is different. Any mestizo or mulatto with mostly White appearance I am sure he claim be White.


2: Jews are White
No one thinks so.


3: I am not Jewish, I only have some minor Jewish ancestry, but I would considered Aryan by the Nazis, going by the Nuremberg Laws
Nazis or Nuremberg Laws mean nothing, they are irrelevants and of course have not the supreme word in these matters.


4: Chuck Norris is White, he claims to have Indian ancestry, but he probably doesn't really. A lot of Whites claim that and then take a DNA test and turn out to be 0% Amerindian, it's probably the same story with Jessica Biel, and Johnny Depp.
Suppositions, probabilities, claims etc but you are talking nothing really. I am thinking in that White supremacist that wanted to create a village only for White people in the north of USA one year ago or so... and scored 14% of black blood in a DNA test :rolleyes:

[LightHouse89]

Why do so many white americans claim native ancestry,even if they don't have it?

white guilt. it isnt cool to be related to conquerors in todays age LOL.

[Leto]

Nazis or Nuremberg Laws mean nothing, they are irrelevants and of course have not the supreme word in these matters.
Yet, you vigorously stick to the North American Anglo-Saxon rules which have never had any relation to Spain in particular or Europe in general.

[Gooding]

white guilt. it isnt cool to be related to conquerors in todays age LOL.
More's the pity. When we were kickass, we were also respected.

[Cristiano viejo]

Yet, you vigorously stick to the North American Anglo-Saxon rules which have never had any relation to Spain in particular or Europe in general.

What rules do you mean?
What I wanted to say is, I dont give a shit about Nuremberg Laws, why I should? I could support the Spanish Inquisition Laws, since I am Spanish, for a start.

[Leto]

What rules do you mean?
What I wanted to say is, I dont give a shit about Nuremberg Laws, why I should? I could support the Spanish Inquisition Laws, since I am Spanish, for a start.
The one drop rule is not a Spanish/Catholic rule. But you discount people who have some non-European ancestry, even though they perfectly pass as white. Look at the former Spanish colonies. They didn't have that North American stuff. I'm not agruing whether it was good or bad, I'm merely stating the fact.

[saci]

The one drop rule is not a Spanish/Catholic rule. But you discount people who have some non-European ancestry, even though they perfectly pass as white. Look at the former Spanish colonies. They didn't have that North American stuff. I'm not agruing whether it was good or bad, I'm merely stating the fact.

jamaica,guyana,belize trinidad and tobago are british colonies

[Gauthier]

Why do so many white americans claim native ancestry,even if they don't have it?

Even negros claim them. You will find fake tribes in the US east coast whose members are obviously african americans.

[Leto]

jamaica,guyana,belize trinidad and tobago are british colonies
Why are you mentioning them again? I've already told you they are not Anglo-Saxon.

[saci]

Why are you mentioning them again? I've already told you they are not Anglo-Saxon.

are British colonies and are poor and mixed countries!

[Cristiano viejo]

The one drop rule is not a Spanish/Catholic rule. But you discount people who have some non-European ancestry, even though they perfectly pass as white. Look at the former Spanish colonies. They didn't have that North American stuff. I'm not agruing whether it was good or bad, I'm merely stating the fact.
Do you know the Estatutos de Limpieza de Sangre? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limpieza_de_sangre

[Leto]

are British colonies and are poor and mixed countries!
White people have never been a majority there. Anyway, the anti-miscegenation rule was mostly limited to the Southern states of America. For example, Canada has never been that strict. But Cristiano is Spanish, so he should know what was happening the Spanish Empire.

[saci]

White people have never been a majority there. Anyway, the anti-miscegenation rule was mostly limited to the Southern states of America. For example, Canada has never been that strict. But Cristiano is Spanish, so he should know what was happening the Spanish Empire.

nor Spaniards in their colonies!

[Leto]

Do you know the Estatutos de Limpieza de Sangre? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limpieza_de_sangre
Hm, thanks for the information. I've read the article, but that wasn't about "whiteness", that was about ancestry. You know, those laws are pretty obsolete, now we cannot seriously argue that a 1/4 Jewish, 3/4 Spanish person is inherently "less white" than a fully Spanish one, since Jews are: 1) Caucasoid. 2) Euro-admixed. They are not white to you mostly for political reasons, which is understandable. But genetically speaking, there is no "unique/extraterrestrial Jewish blood" which supposedly "defiles" one's genotype forever. Many Sephardim were successfully absorbed into the Christian population and few complain about that nowadays.

[saci]

Please excuse my ignorance ( I don't know much about your country, although the history of your Confederados is interesting), but would that not make you essentially Portuguese and Italian, if of course the Colonials were Portuguese?

south america is colonized before the north america.

america: south america 1507

[LightHouse89]

White people have never been a majority there. Anyway, the anti-miscegenation rule was mostly limited to the Southern states of America. For example, Canada has never been that strict. But Cristiano is Spanish, so he should know what was happening the Spanish Empire.

Mind you it was socially unacceptable to marry a black in the Northern States and in most cases you forfeited your right to own property if you did or inherit it. People here did not make love to the Niggers just because we were anti Slavery LOL. We did not want America becoming Africa and wanted to stop the south from importing more Niggers to America.

[LightHouse89]

White people have never been a majority there. Anyway, the anti-miscegenation rule was mostly limited to the Southern states of America. For example, Canada has never been that strict. But Cristiano is Spanish, so he should know what was happening the Spanish Empire.

In the late 1600s/early 1700s there were over 700,000 person living in New England who were of British ancestry.

[Leto]

In the late 1600s/early 1700s there were over 700,000 person living in New England who were of British ancestry.
I was referring to Jamaica, Guyana, etc.:lightbul:

[LightHouse89]

I was referring to Jamaica, Guyana, etc.:lightbul:

Oh those places were slave colonies.

[Smeagol]

Somebody wants to be White, I can not believe in USA this is different. Any mestizo or mulatto with mostly White appearance I am sure he claim be White.

No, that's not the case in the US.


No one thinks so.

Most people in countries that matter do (US, Australia, Britain, etc)


Nazis or Nuremberg Laws mean nothing, they are irrelevants and of course have not the supreme word in these matters.

Whatever. Genetically, I cluster well within Europe. I only have some minor Jewish ancestry from 100 years ago.


Suppositions, probabilities, claims etc but you are talking nothing really. I am thinking in that White supremacist that wanted to create a village only for White people in the north of USA one year ago or so... and scored 14% of black blood in a DNA test :rolleyes:

That DNA test wasn't real, it's only purpose was to discredit that guy's philosophy.

[Gooding]

In the late 1600s/early 1700s there were over 700,000 person living in New England who were of British ancestry.

We had a couple of British families living in the Commonwealth during that period, too. :) http://www.vahistorical.org/what-you-can-see/story-virginia/explore-story-virginia/early-virginia-1775/becoming-virginians

[saci]

In the late 1600s/early 1700s there were over 700,000 person living in New England who were of British ancestry.

united states 1700 population : 250,888
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_the_United_States

[Cristiano viejo]

Hm, thanks for the information. I've read the article, but that wasn't about "whiteness", that was about ancestry.
It is the same.


You know, those laws are pretty obsolete, now we cannot seriously argue that a 1/4 Jewish, 3/4 Spanish person is inherently "less white" than a fully Spanish one, since Jews are: 1) Caucasoid. 2) Euro-admixed. They are not white to you mostly for political reasons, which is understandable. But genetically speaking, there is no "unique/extraterrestrial Jewish blood" which supposedly "defiles" one's genotype forever.

Do you consider as a countryman to someone who is 1/4 Jewish and 3/4 Russian??
Genetically Jews have their own and unique blood, nothing to do with the European average blood.


Many Sephardim were successfully absorbed into the Christian population and few complain about that nowadays.
Into what Christian population are you thinking? :blink: not here in Spain. Well, some could have been but it was not the norm. In fact most of Sefardi people finished in England, Netherlands and Italy (in the Italian regions where Spain did not ruled; in those where Spain ruled the Jews also were expelled).

Also you should know that the SPanish Inquisition only persecuted Converso Jews, not normal Jews.



No, that's not the case in the US.
I deeply doubt it.


Most people in countries that matter do (US, Australia, Britain, etc)
None White supremacist/Nationalist group around the world accept Jews as Whites.


Whatever. Genetically, I cluster well within Europe. I only have some minor Jewish ancestry from 100 years ago.

You called Moors to Spaniards by a possible admixture from in the best of cases 1300 years ago.
Genetically Jews have a lot of Middle Eastern component. I saw the Anglo+Jew dna test and lol.

[Leto]

Do you consider as a countryman to someone who is 1/4 Jewish and 3/4 Russian??
Genetically Jews have their own and unique blood, nothing to do with the European average blood.
I don't wanna talk about Russia, but yes, that person might be okay, why not. Especially if he is passable as white. I'm not a Russian nationalist/supremacist. I'm a caucasoid/European patriot.

[Smeagol]

I deeply doubt it.

Irrelevant, since you aren't an American. I know what I'm talking about in this case.


None White supremacist/Nationalist group around the world accept Jews as Whites.

American Renaissance. Also there were Jews in the original KKK.


You called Moors to Spaniards by a possible admixture from in the best of cases 1300 years ago.

I was trolling.


Genetically Jews have a lot of Middle Eastern component. I saw the Anglo+Jew dna test and lol.

AngloJew clusters with Europeans, near Central Italians. All Southern Europeans are predominantly descended from Near Eastern Neolithic Farmers anyway .

[Leto]

AngloJew clusters with Europeans, near Central Italians. All Southern Europeans are predominantly descended from Near Eastern Neolithic Farmers anyway .
AngloJew is 5/8 European and fully caucasoid.:)

[DanielJ1eH]

This table is from the full study that 23andMe published. It shows the averages by states for African, White, and Hispanic Americans.

http://i.imgur.com/I6OXehP.png

It seems that the White Americans are, as a whole, essentially fully European.
Not really a surprise. I'm a White Canadian and got the same European result in the high 90's percentage wise. 95%+ is essentially fully European.

African Americans have much more European ancestry in then compared to European/White Americans who are pretty much 100% homogenous.

[Isleño]

how can you (99% euro 0.5% amerindian 0.5% african) be "white" american and i (100% euro) gotta be hispanic (for you mixed race) ?

hispanic is not a race..hispanics can be white or black the same way an american can be white or black..Actually before the US in late 20th century started using "Hispanic" for all the Spanish-speakers coming in from Latin America (most of which were mestizos from Mexico and Central America) which in this sense, Hispanic is not a race. But before then, Hispanic was indeed a race of people. For the last 2000 years, Hispanics were Iberians and their full or near full descendants. Agree?

[Argentano]

Actually before the US in late 20th century started using "Hispanic" for all the Spanish-speakers coming in from Latin America (most of which were mestizos from Mexico and Central America) which in this sense, Hispanic is not a race. But before then, Hispanic was indeed a race of people. For the last 2000 years, Hispanics were Iberians and their full or near full descendants. Agree?

well yes you are right before it meant Spaniard

[Isleño]

well yes you are right before it meant SpaniardYes, that's right. It actually meant Iberian though. Lusitanic Portuguese were also Hispanics. But I would also argue that most of Latin America is Hispanic due to Spanish and Portuguese ancestry being dominant in most of the population. Same for the Canary Islands (which is actually part of Spain).

[Profileid]

my DNA relatives are mostly from the south. I see a lot of SSA and some native. But the most I saw was 2.9% in one chick.

[alnortedelsur]

My contribution... Some white North Americans who are DNA relatives of mine:

http://i.imgur.com/xOaHDRe.png
http://i.imgur.com/TeHcWvL.png

Another:

http://i.imgur.com/ubV89ux.png
http://i.imgur.com/q6pH4Tx.png

Another:

http://i.imgur.com/VFfKEuY.png
http://i.imgur.com/Hpbkzca.png

Another:

http://i.imgur.com/o32xFbX.png
http://i.imgur.com/1eTt5EY.png

[alnortedelsur]

Some more white North American DNA relatives:

http://i.imgur.com/HYIEZzD.png
http://i.imgur.com/E82BeiB.png

another:

http://i.imgur.com/CEdv04C.png
http://i.imgur.com/jvKWRTu.png

another:

http://i.imgur.com/fhNqfev.png
http://i.imgur.com/pwtvIMe.png

another:

http://i.imgur.com/cF7Ibez.png
http://i.imgur.com/S3YbBbh.png

another:

http://i.imgur.com/Z4FaW2V.png
http://i.imgur.com/CGiv4M4.png

another:

http://i.imgur.com/OGFwxIg.png
http://i.imgur.com/ripviFn.png

[Profileid]

Are you related to them from your NW Euro side then?

[alnortedelsur]

Are you related to them from your NW Euro side then?

Perhaps, I am close to 7% Northwestern Euro according to 23Andme, roughly 8% Northwestern Euro according to my Heritage, and 12% British plus 5% Irish according to AncestryDNA.

[nittionia]

My southern grandma:
https://i.imgur.com/dvSs4No.png