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Gauthier
10-30-2014, 04:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A


By Gail Sullivan October 29 at 5:10 AM

On an August day in New York City, Shoshana B. Roberts was harassed 108 times — by her definition.

The whole thing was caught on video by Hollaback, an anti-street harassment advocacy group, and edited into a two-minute public service announcement. Clad in jeans and a black T-shirt, Roberts walked around New York for 10 hours following filmmaker Rob Bliss, who had a camera hidden in his backpack.

One man says “Hello, good morning,” then follows Roberts for five minutes. Another says, “What’s up girl? How you doin?” When she doesn’t respond he reprimands her: “Somebody’s acknowledging you for being beautiful.”

It goes on.

“Damn.”

“Hey baby.”

“God bless you mami.”

And on.

“Smile,” one man says. She doesn’t. He commands her again: “Smile.”

“Not a day goes by when I don’t experience this,” Roberts told NBC. Her experience isn’t unusual. Many women experience street harassment in the form of catcalls, winks or even simple greetings like “hello” that take on a different meaning when they come from a stranger staring at your breasts.

It happens at night. It happens during the day. It happens while walking to work, running in the park or shopping at the mall. In a segment for “The Daily Show,” Jessica Williams explores the gauntlet of street harassment she runs just to get to work.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, one in three women has experienced what they call “noncontact unwanted sexual experiences,” which include street harassment. Another recent study by a group called Stop Street Harassment found two-thirds of women out of 2,000 polled nationally had experienced street harassment. Twenty-three percent had been touched by their harasser, and 20 percent followed.

Some suspect both estimates are low. “I was actually surprised that the number of women harassed wasn’t much higher,” the Guardian’s Jessica Valenti wrote of the study, adding: “Maybe what we know is harassment has become so expected and commonplace we almost don’t identify it as notable anymore.”

“Given that half of those harassed said they’d first experienced it before age 17, maybe we’ve learned from a young age that some harassment is just the price we pay for stepping outside into a public space,” added Feministing.

Within hours of posting the video online, Hollaback tweeted that Roberts, the woman featured in the video, had received rape threats and asked followers to help police YouTube comments by reporting threats.

Other commenters admonished Roberts for wearing tight clothes, suggesting it is women who are responsible for what comes out of men’s mouths.

Many commenters on YouTube, Twitter and Web sites where the video was reposted expressed skepticism that phrases like “have a good day” or “good morning,” which Roberts counted as harassment, met the definition.

“Hello isn’t always as friendly as it seems,” wrote Autumn Whitefield-Madrano for the blog Feministe. “I’m talking about the hello that slides up and down the scale, the echo of a wolf whistle, its tone indicating what its denotation cannot. I’m talking about the hello that happens just as I pass a man on the street, the hello that is not a greeting but a whisper, the hello that puts me in a position of reaction — to turn my head in good faith to acknowledge the existence of a fellow human … or to hurry past, knowing full well that there’s a good chance it’s not my human existence, but my female existence, that’s being acknowledged.”

But saying “hello” back carries its own risks. “Over the years I’ve learned that sometimes hello indicates you’re willing to have a longer conversation — and that often that longer conversation quickly enters the realm of what is unquestionably street harassment,” Whitefiled-Madrano wrote.

Another common refrain among commenters is that Roberts should have taken the uninvited comments as compliments.

Some women do perceive catcalls and comments from strangers as compliments. “When I know I’m looking good, I brazenly walk past a construction site, anticipating that whistle and ‘Hey, mama!’ catcall. Works every time — my ego and I can’t fit through the door!” Doree Lewak wrote in the New York Post. “When a total stranger notices you, it’s validating,” she added.

“Compliments are meant to make the compliment receiver feel good and confident and happy. Your comments make me feel nervous and vulnerable and angry,” Sarah Jezior wrote in “An Open Letter To My Street Harassers” for the blog Hello Giggles.

The difference between casual greetings, compliments and street harassment has a lot to do with power dynamics. “Sexual harassment is about power and control,” Jezior wrote. “He wanted to remind me that he can say whatever he wants about my body, and no one will do anything about it,” she said of her aggressor. “He wants to remind me that I am a sexual object, not a human being with thoughts and feelings.”

Street harassment is also about fear — fear that words and whistles will escalate into an assault. In 2011, Psychology Today profiled a 14-year-old girl who was afraid to leave the house by herself because she was so frequently catcalled by men. In a survey for her book, “Stop Street Harassment: Making Public Places Safe and Welcoming for Women,” researcher and activist Holly Kearl found that one in 10 women changed jobs to avoid harassment on their commute.

Street harassment is so common that it seems almost normal. Women often don’t know how to respond. But some artists and advocacy groups have found creative ways to confront the problem.

Artist Tatyana Fazlalizadeh creates portraits of women with messages like “My name is not baby” and “Women do not owe you their time and conversation” and posts them in public places. It’s part of her project “Stop Telling Women to Smile” that aims to raise awareness about street harassment. New York City officials invested $20,000 in Hollaback’s smartphone app that allows users to report incidents of harassment. The idea is to streamline the complaint process and help officials better understand the problem.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/29/video-woman-harassed-108-times-as-she-walks-around-new-york/

SardiniaAtlantis
10-30-2014, 04:21 AM
I have not gotten through the whole video am on :43 one guy says "Have a nice evening" and they count that as harassment, at this point the video has officially become ridiculous and lost all merit.

After watching a bit further, a lot of these guys are absolutely pathetic.

At the end of the video they counted "winks, smiles and whistles" as harassment as well. The hilarious thing is that women do this all the time to men too. Should I petition now for Harassment??? Rediculous.

Gauthier
10-30-2014, 04:24 AM
One of them followed her for 5 minutes. Niggaz love white women.

Mars06
10-30-2014, 04:25 AM
Stand against rape culture: oppose multiculturalism. ;)

Vesuvian Sky
10-30-2014, 04:26 AM
Notice that they're almost all Black.


Funny, I was about to say he exact thing here in this thread which features this video as well:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?145711-Video-Woman-harassed-108-times-as-she-walks-around-New-York

Threads merged.

Sikeliot
10-30-2014, 04:28 AM
She looks Italian American, but her last name is "Roberts". Weird.

Anyway, I am not surprised by this video at all. This does happen to women. And gay men do this to other men. It's gross.

War Chef
10-30-2014, 04:28 AM
I think it's pretty dumb to do this kind of experiment and it just shows her feminazi motives. Yes some of it was harassment and down right creppish (especially the one who wouldn't stop following) but just saying "You're beautiful have a nice day" and walking off counts as harassment now, wtf? Women love compliments, this bitch is just being greedy. If she was honest she would edit the petty comments out.

Here's another video of a similar experiment, some dumb broad trying to portray men as thirsty dogs looking for some sex:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoFCCQnp9hc

Stefan_Dusan
10-30-2014, 04:29 AM
I dunno exactly, she walked some 10 hours in big populated street like NYC and the most she could find was basically "hey baby"? Next time walk with a man if she doesn't like this xD

SardiniaAtlantis
10-30-2014, 04:30 AM
I can also tell you guys, that the ghetto black women do this same thing as well, and even worse. They have told me things that I would never expect to hear out of a womans mouth. Shocking stuff.

Gauthier
10-30-2014, 04:30 AM
Damn, yo. I just posted a thread about this. I'll repeat what I said there: notice that they're almost all Black.

They want some of that vanilla. :pound:

Sikeliot
10-30-2014, 04:31 AM
I can also tell you guys, that the ghetto black women do this same thing as well, and even worse. They have told me things that I would never expect to hear out of a womans mouth. Shocking stuff.

Ghetto black women want some white chocolate ;)

Stefan_Dusan
10-30-2014, 04:33 AM
I can also tell you guys, that the ghetto black women do this same thing as well, and even worse. They have told me things that I would never expect to hear out of a womans mouth. Shocking stuff.

I lived in a very poor black area of detroit for some time, and I would get harassed non stop by black women (mostly prostitutes/crack whores), some of which would cross the street to talk to me.

Honestly, it never bothered me more than simple annoyance. I'd just tell them to leave me alone, sometimes I'd joke with them. If you don't want to interact with people stay indoors and post on apricity xD

Guapo
10-30-2014, 04:34 AM
Who the fuck taped me?

SardiniaAtlantis
10-30-2014, 04:35 AM
I lived in a very poor black area of detroit for some time, and I would get harassed non stop by black women (mostly prostitutes/crack whores), some of which would cross the street to talk to me.

Honestly, it never bothered me more than simple annoyance. I'd just tell them to leave me alone, sometimes I'd joke with them. If you don't want to interact with people stay indoors and post on apricity xD

TBH it's the annoyance factor that I hate... I don't feel offended or anything but I can see how if I was a woman I probably would.
That being said, its also the way they go about it thats the problem. Saying something like "Have a nice day" like one guy in the vid said, to include that as harassment is absolutely laughable.

Pjeter Pan
10-30-2014, 04:36 AM
What does this prove?
What will this accomplish?
What does this have to do with feminism?
Why can't I see her ass?

SardiniaAtlantis
10-30-2014, 04:41 AM
BTW, I officially Apologize to you guys for not believing this kind of Feminism exists. I can now see that there really are people out there like this. Thankfully I have never met one, but they exist. We should start a new movement called Masculism to counteract it, and anytime a girl smiles, or winks, or hits on us in any way we will call it harassment.
Would you like to contribute to the foundation?

alb0zfinest
10-30-2014, 04:43 AM
I have not gotten through the whole video am on :43 one guy says "Have a nice evening" and they count that as harassment, at this point the video has officially become ridiculous and lost all merit.

After watching a bit further, a lot of these guys are absolutely pathetic.

At the end of the video they counted "winks, smiles and whistles" as harassment as well. The hilarious thing is that women do this all the time to men too. Should I petition now for Harassment??? Rediculous.

Of course you won't. You like it :D

SardiniaAtlantis
10-30-2014, 04:48 AM
I have to disagree. Being bothered by people is harassment. If the woman is at a club, it's different. She's in an environment where people match up. But she's just walking from point A to point B. If I had people constantly making remarks at me, I'd eventually flip the fuck out. It doesn't matter if it's tasteful or not. People don't like being bothered. And what's the point? I've never seen a woman just stop and talk to the guy after hearing a cat call or whistle. It's almost always some degenerate looking guy.

If the chick is making eyes at you, then it's okay to chat her up but by chat her up I don't mean sounding idiotic like these guys and of course if a woman is walking somewhere she's not interested in having a chat with you.

You act as if women did not do this as well. Try working at a mall and see how many women will bother you all day long, what are we supposed to do sue somebody over it? There are degrees and levels of what can and cannot be considered harassment. The part of the video that I saw as ridiculous being the guy saying, "Have a nice evening." He said it in a tone just like you would say to another guy. That was not necessarily him hitting on her in any way whatsoever, I tell people have a nice day every once in a while both men and women, with no ulterior motive behind it. It is simply a greeting, and the manner in which he said it was not indicative of harassment in any form.

SardiniaAtlantis
10-30-2014, 04:49 AM
Of course you won't. You like it :D

No bro, to be honest it does get annoying. But at the same time, I can deal with it like an adult and realize I'm not going to die from it. Nor is it fighting cancer that I should raise money for.

Mortimer
10-30-2014, 04:51 AM
I think it doesnt happen so often here, but i dont know about bigger cities like vienna. I dont do it and it was not done to me. It would also get annoying, and i wouldnt like if someone does it to my sister, girlfriend or whatever. Maybe some girls/guys like the attention but it can get annoying. We should take Tokyo as good ideal, i read there a woman can go in underwear out at midnight and no one would bother her. I dont know if it is true.

Guapo
10-30-2014, 04:54 AM
Funny thing is that I bet most of these guys in the vids are already married or have girlfriends xD

SardiniaAtlantis
10-30-2014, 04:59 AM
Funny thing is that I bet most of these guys in the vids are already married or have girlfriends xD

Not sure about that, but I bet most of those guys have children....somewhere...

Anglojew
10-30-2014, 04:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1XGPvbWn0A

Notice that they're almost all Black.

Yep.

alb0zfinest
10-30-2014, 04:59 AM
What does this prove?
What will this accomplish?
What does this have to do with feminism?
Why can't I see her ass?

LOLOLOLOLOLOL. I knew an ass comment was coming up. Kastrioti was right about this specific thing :D

Gauthier
10-30-2014, 05:02 AM
I don't know if it's stupidity or if they have no shame.

I guess they watch too much porn. They believe every white woman is lusting for blacks.

Guapo
10-30-2014, 05:03 AM
Not sure about that, but I bet most of those guys have children....somewhere...

I do.

Guapo
10-30-2014, 05:04 AM
You guys are raciss

Pjeter Pan
10-30-2014, 05:04 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOL. I knew an ass comment was coming up. Kastrioti was right about this specific thing :D

Can't help it bro its the nigga blood :D

SardiniaAtlantis
10-30-2014, 05:47 AM
Don't be naive. He said it to her out of a bunch of people he ignored. And you never say "have a nice evening" except to someone you interacted with (a cashier, someone on the elevator who held the door, etc.) and the interaction is now over. You don't say that to a random person. You think he says that to everyone else? It's an act. It's a "I'm a nice guy. Talk to me as you're walking in the other direction." But it's a stupid act.

To be honest, I can't be so sure about that. I might just be more sociable than you, or live in a more sociable area but saying have a nice day to a random person without any ulterior motive is not unheard of around here.

Kangxi
10-30-2014, 05:51 AM
Black girls used to come at me, hard. I think it's just in their culture to be a lot more outgoing. A few of those dudes had rape on the mind though probably.

Mortimer
10-30-2014, 05:52 AM
i completely understand woman who are scared or annoyed by guys following them, staring at them etc. and making sexual comments. they could be afraid he will rape her or touch her etc. it is scary and annoying. I dont do that, if i find a woman attractive i would start a normal conversation and see if she wants to talk.

Aviator
10-30-2014, 05:55 AM
I bet there are feminists out there who consider it sexual harassment when you hold the door open for them.

randomguy1235
10-30-2014, 06:15 AM
I can also tell you guys, that the ghetto black women do this same thing as well, and even worse. They have told me things that I would never expect to hear out of a womans mouth. Shocking stuff.

It's pretty funny that you mention that because it happened to me on some off-hand occasions (Although the girls weren't particularly ghetto and they were probably being nice more so than anything). One notable conversation I had was with a really attractive black girl before class; she said that "we'd have beautiful light-skinned babies if we got together" x)

SardiniaAtlantis
10-30-2014, 06:20 AM
It's pretty funny that you mention that because it happened to me on some off-hand occasions (Although the girls weren't particularly ghetto and they were probably being nice more so than anything). One notable conversation I had was with a really attractive black girl before class; she said that "we'd have beautiful light-skinned babies if we got together" x)

LOL, I've heard this line before! But that is actually on the lighter side of things...or a much nicer way to put it lol. It is the ghetto girls (any race really) that have the crazy things to say.

Arch Hades
10-30-2014, 06:28 AM
Black guys are pretty bold, at least sexually. I guess if you approach spam enough different women you'll eventually get laid. This is basically the negro way of mate selection, approach spam.


See me I never approach unless I get the approach signal/smile or eye fuck (and even then 75% of the time I ignore it). But then again I'm a spoiled handsome White guy.

TheBlondeSalad
10-30-2014, 03:33 PM
I think the worse ones are where the guys followed her, which can be quite frightening, especially if it's late but how is men telling you to have a nice day and saying you’re beautiful verbal harassment? I mean, the most vulgar thing that happened was just a few yelling “DAMN! :confused:

I''ve had this before but only really when I'm all dressed up and stuff. I just tend to ignore it or smile but keep walking.

alfieb
10-30-2014, 03:43 PM
I'm in my late twenties, so I've lived in this city for over twenty years. I don't drive. So I walk and take buses and trains a lot. That gives me unique perspective.

I've almost never encountered women being sexually harassed in public. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen, it's just something that's overstated when it occurs because it shouldn't happen.

Dictator
10-30-2014, 03:46 PM
OMG it's so hard to be a strong independent woman in USA. I don't know why Sikeliot still tries to...

Also
10-30-2014, 03:52 PM
This guy posted a great response:


http://youtu.be/uP1Vxu2erq4

Linebacker
10-30-2014, 03:55 PM
If a guy parks a ferarri and leans on it,spinning the keys on his finger,and uses the exact same lines as those guys did,I guarantee 9/10 women will stop and talk to him.

Pjeter Pan
10-30-2014, 03:56 PM
What does this prove?
What will this accomplish?
What does this have to do with feminism?
Why can't I see her ass?

LightHouse89
10-30-2014, 03:57 PM
New York city is known for its feminists.

LightHouse89
10-30-2014, 03:58 PM
What does this prove?
What will this accomplish?
What does this have to do with feminism?
Why can't I see her ass?

:thumb001: independent women who claim they are feminists need a man...so he can bend her over his lap and give her a spanking.

Wolf
10-30-2014, 10:53 PM
Why does a 10 hours walk last 1:57 minutes?

Dictator
10-30-2014, 10:54 PM
Why does a 10 hour walk last 1:57 minutes?

Because out of 600 minutes she was only "harassed" during 2.

KawaiiKawaii
10-30-2014, 10:55 PM
Why does a 10 hour walk last 1:57 minutes?

These are New York minutes, that's why.

albosomething
10-30-2014, 11:04 PM
since when is have a nice evening a harassment ?

Comte Arnau
10-31-2014, 12:37 AM
Women of TA, can you relate to this video? Do you ever experience the same sort of thing? Does it please you or just bothers you? What do you do when this happens to you?

Men of TA, do you ever engage in such behaviour towards women?

I'm not a 'woman of TA' and I can answer yes to your first two questions too. Been harassed a few times by women and twice by men. I admit I reacted more rudely to the last two. In fact, when it was women, I never cared if it didn't become a nuisance.

As for the question you address to men, I see that type of behaviour quite related to your educational level. I could say I wouldn't do it out of respect but the thing is I wouldn't because I'd find myself stupid on the first place.

Rudel
10-31-2014, 12:38 AM
receives shout-outs from strangers varying from ‘good morning’ and ‘whats up’
« - Good morning !
- OMFG STOP HARASSING ME.
- M'kay. »

gold_fenix
10-31-2014, 12:39 AM
most of them afroamerican and latinamerican...

SkyBurn
10-31-2014, 12:46 AM
I saw a youtube comment on the Redpill (known MRA tards) video which I quite liked:

"Who the fuck says hello (i.e. demands the attention of) a random woman walking down the street who is obviously on their way somewhere?
Someone who is just trying to fuck her, that's who.
It's not a bar, it's not a social gathering, keep to your fucking self."

If you genuinely believe that women can't be made uncomfortable by "greetings" and durr feminazis are being overly sensitive, then you're either naive or biased. If you think her clothing was "slutty" or "asking for it" you're clearly out of touch.

Dictator
10-31-2014, 12:47 AM
« - Good morning !
- OMFG STOP HARASSING ME.
- M'kay. »
I didn't knew that "God bless you" was a pervert line. Now I know why they say that Priests are pedos, when I was little in the church one said God bless you to me but I was young and innocent. Now I know what he did. He sexually harassed me verbally.

KawaiiKawaii
10-31-2014, 12:54 AM
As much as I find the video stupid and the woman very whiny, I'm quite sure that, being told 100 times a day "Hello" "Good evening" "God Bless", etc. must be quite boring.

Not a Cop
10-31-2014, 12:55 AM
If a guy parks a ferarri and leans on it,spinning the keys on his finger,and uses the exact same lines as those guys did,I guarantee 9/10 women will stop and talk to him.

As far as i remeber you understand Russian, but i doubt other people won't understand the meaninig of video.


http://youtu.be/mM_V64-rtGo

Not a Cop
10-31-2014, 12:59 AM
If you genuinely believe that women can't be made uncomfortable by "greetings" and durr feminazis are being overly sensitive, then you're either naive or biased. If you think her clothing was "slutty" or "asking for it" you're clearly out of touch.

Please explain.

Armand_Duval
10-31-2014, 01:01 AM
I have walked the whole Manhattan several times myself and I remember this night while walking by Broadway that this black neared as I was passing by and he told me "Come on and have fun I have money" as if I were a prostitute or something :picard1: Fucking subhuman!, somehow I understood what women feel.

Pjeter Pan
10-31-2014, 01:03 AM
If a guy parks a ferarri and leans on it,spinning the keys on his finger,and uses the exact same lines as those guys did,I guarantee 9/10 women will stop and talk to him.
Without even talking :rotfl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbYNAZxcWh4

Armand_Duval
10-31-2014, 01:09 AM
I have nignogs harass me for money because I look like a naive cracker with my dockers and polo shirts. I can't say any tried to suck my dick but it's very uncomfortable regardless. Although I do like to see their reaction when I say I have some pennies for them.

It really caught me by surprise, I dont look gay nor like some of those junkies that could sock dick for some box, I donno what made him think I could accept such a vile proposal....

Linebacker
10-31-2014, 01:11 AM
As far as i remeber you understand Russian, but i doubt other people won't understand the meaninig of video.


http://youtu.be/mM_V64-rtGo

Я именно ето сказал,комплимент на улице,ты задрот,но комплимент в дорогая машина,и ты самы хорошиѝ в мира :D

И она "Нет мужа у меня" сказала :D :D

Melina
10-31-2014, 01:12 AM
Why does a 10 hour walk last 1:57 minutes?

That is because it barely happens. I have experienced similar but I wouldn't equal what most guys say to me as harassment. Plus there are cops in every corner in NY. No guy would want to mess with women here unless of course you live in the worst parts of NY or go out late at night.

alfieb
10-31-2014, 01:23 AM
That is because it barely happens. I have experienced similar but I wouldn't equal what most guys say to me as harassment. Plus there are cops in every corner in NY. No guy would want to mess with women here unless of course you live in the worst parts of NY or go out late at night.

Ding ding.

This barely ever happens.

Armand_Duval
10-31-2014, 01:23 AM
Taking a shot in the dark, probably.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxWJd3w3QPs


Hahahahaha... I donno but to be harassed is not nice, I felt really unconfortable about it, I understand women because I have been harassed and looked at in dirty and suggestive ways by gays other times and it is really annoying.

Not a Cop
10-31-2014, 01:29 AM
Я именно ето сказал,комплимент на улице,ты задрот,но комплимент в дорогая машина,и ты самы хорошиѝ в мира :D

И она "Нет мужа у меня" сказала :D :D

He-he yes, i took a year vacation from Uni last year and my friend from school got on exactly faculty as i am, but a year later, so we are studiyng in the same group since this year, he got a good sense of humor, and told everybody that i have Camaro, you must have seen how girls treared me on the first week of studying:D.

Melina
10-31-2014, 01:32 AM
Ding ding.

This barely ever happens.

I have to add that I have experienced a lot worst once going to time square. This is nothing. She should of made a video of REAL harassment.

KawaiiKawaii
10-31-2014, 01:41 AM
I have to add that I have experienced a lot worst once going to time square. This is nothing. She should of made a video of REAL harassment.

Is it really that bad? America seems to me to be a pretty feminist society, where this kind of behavior is frowned upon. So I was quite surprised to see this video and apparently that you got even worse.

Immortal Technique
10-31-2014, 01:45 AM
dat nigga probably wanted to bump her ass hehehe

Merida
10-31-2014, 01:56 AM
It wasn't that terrible, but some guys just cross the line; I was kind of creeped out by the guys following her.

Here it's different. Men may stare, smile and even say hello. But not follow you.

alfieb
10-31-2014, 02:01 AM
It wasn't that terrible, but some guys just cross the line; I was kind of creeped out by the guys following her.

I would have punched a guy if he started following a female friend of mine, but that sort of thing genuinely doesn't happen often here.

KawaiiKawaii
10-31-2014, 02:02 AM
dat nigga probably wanted to bump her ass hehehe

Immortal, did you appear in the video?

Gustave H
10-31-2014, 02:05 AM
A few of the comments weren't offensive but many were. My fiance and her friends are often harassed when they hang out together in public places. I've been in a few fights to defend her honor. There aren't too many gentleman in this country anymore, not too many ladies either. It's a shame.

Merida
10-31-2014, 02:06 AM
I would have punched a guy if he started following a female friend of mine, but that sort of thing genuinely doesn't happen often here.

It's a very uncomfortable situation. You could see the girl's face. But I'm glad to hear that it doesn't happen often there :).

Melina
10-31-2014, 02:09 AM
Is it really that bad? America seems to me to be a pretty feminist society, where this kind of behavior is frowned upon. So I was quite surprised to see this video and apparently that you got even worse.

It doesn't matter how feminist a society is. There will always be creeps out there. You also have to be careful in NYC. I was in time square where it is packed with people. Anyone can take advantage of the situation and try to "bump" on you on purpose....

KawaiiKawaii
10-31-2014, 02:12 AM
It doesn't matter how feminist a society is. There will always be creeps out there. You also have to be careful in NYC. I was in time square where it is packed with people. Anyone can take advantage of the situation and try to "bump" on you on purpose....

I know, but in the video I was expecting some reactions from the crowd. This is what shocked me, the lack of reaction in a society where this kind of behavior is badly seen.

Also
10-31-2014, 02:13 AM
I saw a youtube comment on the Redpill (known MRA tards) video which I quite liked:

"Who the fuck says hello (i.e. demands the attention of) a random woman walking down the street who is obviously on their way somewhere?
Someone who is just trying to fuck her, that's who.
It's not a bar, it's not a social gathering, keep to your fucking self."

If you genuinely believe that women can't be made uncomfortable by "greetings" and durr feminazis are being overly sensitive, then you're either naive or biased. If you think her clothing was "slutty" or "asking for it" you're clearly out of touch.

People can always reserve for themselves the right to be uncomfortable for anything, no matter how silly. The question is, must we forbid men from greeting or complimenting women on streets because some people may claim they feel uncomfortable? The answer is clearly no. No one has the right to not have people saying "hello" to them or not saying anything, as long as it is not explicitly offensive or inadequate, like as if one said "I bet you have a tight pussy".

And yes, I think her clothing was slutty. If you are a woman, specially if you are curvy, and you use clothes that enhance your body and sexualize you then you will likely hear comments from people if you walk across a filled street, and people have the right to approach you as long as they do it respectfully and no one has the right to demand people from not doing so. Going out with slutty clothes and complaining about male attention is like if I putted a watermelon above my head and complained people comment about me or approach me because I have a giant fruit above my head. If a woman is genuinely bothered that males are approaching her she can dress in a modest way and not give the impression she is fresh available meat to a horde of wolves, but she can't demand people do not approach her, if they are not really harassing her.

alfieb
10-31-2014, 02:15 AM
It's a very uncomfortable situation. You could see the girl's face. But I'm glad to hear that it doesn't happen often there :).

It may happen to women in black neighborhoods, or Dominican/Puerto Rican women in their neighborhoods, but I travel mostly in white, Asian, or mixed neighborhoods, and I am happy to report that it is as safe for a woman there as it gets in a major city.

Melina
10-31-2014, 02:18 AM
I know, but in the video I was expecting some reactions from the crowd. This is what shocked me, the lack of reaction in a society where this kind of behavior is badly seen.

Yeah you shouldn't expect much from our society. You see most people don't like getting involved because people here are generally wimps and don't want the situation to escalate. Also the fact that people here are scared of getting sued.

KawaiiKawaii
10-31-2014, 02:20 AM
Yeah you shouldn't expect much from our society. You see most people don't like getting involved because people here are generally wimps and don't want the situation to escalate. Also the fact that people here are scared of getting sued.

It's the same in Switzerland and in every country (or at least in cities) in the West I guess. But I thought Americans would be louder. Anyway, thanks for your answer.

alfieb
10-31-2014, 02:20 AM
It's nignogs harassing her and the people around are almost all nignogs. Anyway, I'm not going to risk getting stabbed in the throat for someone I don't know because trash said "what's up, baby?" to her. You can toss that bullshit to the curb, yo.

Do you even live in an urban environment? I doubt it, since you're white in North Jersey.

Merida
10-31-2014, 02:21 AM
It may happen to women in black neighborhoods, or Dominican/Puerto Rican women in their neighborhoods, but I travel mostly in white, Asian, or mixed neighborhoods, and I am happy to report that it is as safe for a woman there as it gets in a major city.

Right. Here it's similar in the sense that the poorer the neighbourhood, the less safe it is for a woman to walk on her own. I guess it's like this all around the world, unfortunately :/.

KawaiiKawaii
10-31-2014, 02:22 AM
It's nignogs harassing her and the people around are almost all nignogs. Anyway, I'm not going to risk getting stabbed in the throat for someone I don't know because trash said "what's up, baby?" to her. You can toss that bullshit to the curb, yo.

I've never asked you, or any other person, to step in and defend this woman. I was just curious, because Americans are seen as louder, more expressive, more confrontational than Swiss people for exemple. There is no need for you to chimp out.

LightHouse89
10-31-2014, 04:26 AM
I didn't realize "I chimped out." That's how I normally express myself. I didn't even view your post in a negative or as antagonistic or critical of Americans. Your natural passivity makes you think my very expressive response was an attack on your post.

You are my favorite liberal.....but you have a right wing side to you that I shall never know.

LightHouse89
10-31-2014, 04:28 AM
It doesn't matter how feminist a society is. There will always be creeps out there. You also have to be careful in NYC. I was in time square where it is packed with people. Anyone can take advantage of the situation and try to "bump" on you on purpose....

Not if I was there chica! :cool:

Oneeye
10-31-2014, 04:30 AM
If someone were to start talking shit to some woman walking by who ignored their advances, I may actually say something to him. But I'm kind of cray cray.

LightHouse89
10-31-2014, 04:32 AM
It may happen to women in black neighborhoods, or Dominican/Puerto Rican women in their neighborhoods, but I travel mostly in white, Asian, or mixed neighborhoods, and I am happy to report that it is as safe for a woman there as it gets in a major city.

Yes i noticed that only in Nigger and Puerot Rican neighborhoods this behavior took place.

LightHouse89
10-31-2014, 04:33 AM
The only people harassing this woman were Niggers and Puerto Ricans LOL

Mars06
10-31-2014, 04:34 AM
The only people harassing this woman were Niggers and Puerto Ricans LOL

related (http://www.reddit.com/r/GreatApes/comments/2fqrl6/take_a_stand_against_rape_culture_with_rgreatapes/)

LightHouse89
10-31-2014, 04:36 AM
I've never asked you, or any other person, to step in and defend this woman. I was just curious, because Americans are seen as louder, more expressive, more confrontational than Swiss people for exemple. There is no need for you to chimp out.

the fact is in white places that does not happen. I mean at least in an irish/italian neighborhood the women will flat out punch you in the face and break afew teeth for being a pervert....that is in the poor end of town....in the classy WASP areas it is entirely non existent. However in both places you have the men to contend with. Puerto Ricans though in ghettos here do behave this way [they have Negro ancestry and some are tri-racial....no shock there].

LightHouse89
10-31-2014, 04:37 AM
related (http://www.reddit.com/r/GreatApes/comments/2fqrl6/take_a_stand_against_rape_culture_with_rgreatapes/)

very much so my good sir!

Stacey
10-31-2014, 08:35 AM
When you walk through a busy section of the city you don't say "have a nice day" to anyone because there is too many people to say it too. He chose to say it to her because he wants to fuck her. There is no other reason. Excuse my vulgar language but I'm being direct. There is no other reason why he would say it to her instead of another person near by. If I remember correctly he even leans in her direction. I'm going to bed and so I don't want watch the video again out of fear I'll dream of Black men harassing White women. I want to dream about fluffy kittens doing silly things.

Its more of a cultural thing honestly, I really don't believe black women go around hitting on men like the men in here are saying except maybe crack heads. Black men usually pursue women, if black men never approached black women most of their relationships would never happen. Most black women believe a man is only interested if he pursues you. A lot of the men like the chase anyways. I don't think its necessarily rude to approach a woman you find attractive because you may never see her again but there is a way to do it. If you can see im not interested from my body language then just fall back. To a lot of men women look stuck up or bitchy when they ignore men greetings/compliments but its like open invitation to assaulted. but yeah just wanted to give you insight on the cultural element of why black men actively pursue their mates.

cezar
10-31-2014, 08:49 AM
Funny the girl is not even good looking .I guess in usa there are many desperate people.

SardiniaAtlantis
10-31-2014, 08:55 AM
Its more of a cultural thing honestly, I really don't believe black women go around hitting on men like the men in here are saying except maybe crack heads. Black men usually pursue women, if black men never approached black women most of their relationships would never happen. Most black women believe a man is only interested if he pursues you. A lot of the men like the chase anyways. I don't think its necessarily rude to approach a woman you find attractive because you may never see her again but there is a way to do it. If you can see im not interested from my body language then just fall back. To a lot of men women look stuck up or bitchy when they ignore men greetings/compliments but its like open invitation to assaulted. but yeah just wanted to give you insight on the cultural element of why black men actively pursue their mates.

I for one, can tell you 100% I am not trolling, nor do I believe the other members are (though I can't speak for them). Simply because it has not been your experience, or you are not aware that it happens does not mean it doesn't. Black females happen to be on the more aggressive side from my experience when they do proactively approach a guy. Perhaps this happens more when they approach a non-black male, or perhaps it depends on which part of the world you are in. There are many cultural factors to consider, but this has been my experience. There is no need to question the legitimacy of someone else's experience that way simply because your life experience has been a different one. Cheers.

Stacey
10-31-2014, 09:46 AM
I for one, can tell you 100% I am not trolling, nor do I believe the other members are (though I can't speak for them). Simply because it has not been your experience, or you are not aware that it happens does not mean it doesn't. Black females happen to be on the more aggressive side from my experience when they do proactively approach a guy. Perhaps this happens more when they approach a non-black male, or perhaps it depends on which part of the world you are in. There are many cultural factors to consider, but this has been my experience. There is no need to question the legitimacy of someone else's experience that way simply because your life experience has been a different one. Cheers.


well it depends on the Black woman, being a black woman myself thats all im around and most are against pursuing men period. The ones that act like that are usually socially retarded and have self esteem issues( the ones that are overly aggressive). I'm not saying it didn't happen but those women don't represent even most black women. I'm in a relationship with a white guy and he approached me if that matters.

Raven_
10-31-2014, 04:45 PM
I have to disagree. Being bothered by people is harassment. If the woman is at a club, it's different. She's in an environment where people match up. But she's just walking from point A to point B. If I had people constantly making remarks at me, I'd eventually flip the fuck out. It doesn't matter if it's tasteful or not. People don't like being bothered. And what's the point? I've never seen a woman just stop and talk to the guy after hearing a cat call, whistle, or tasteful compliment. It's almost always some degenerate looking guy.

If the chick is making eyes at you, then it's okay to chat her up but by chat her up I don't mean sounding idiotic like these guys and of course if a woman is walking somewhere she's not interested in having a chat with you.

It's quantity of such replies that may be bothering. I am honestly quite surprised by the number.

However, I doubt most of the shown men were trying to 'match up'. Most of them had no intentions to take any actions apart from calling her 'a babe'. That said, I think harassing may be a too strong word in situations like that.

Obscene
10-31-2014, 11:43 PM
She deserved it.

KawaiiKawaii
10-31-2014, 11:44 PM
She deserved it.

Merkava, have you been harassed? What happened? You gave him a thumb up?

Graham
10-31-2014, 11:59 PM
Third world culture.

Graham
11-01-2014, 12:06 AM
You are my favorite liberal.....but you have a right wing side to you that I shall never know.
He's a Libertarian rather than Liberal in modern politics. Liberal as in Ron Paul, Tea Party Liberal. If you know what I mean.

SkyBurn
11-01-2014, 12:19 AM
With a name like Shoshana in New York? 100% sure she's a Jew.

And sure, some of the examples of "harassment" are a bit silly, but you can't discount the whole video as a result. She includes things like "sup" to up the count and make her video more clickworthy, but that doesn't make the clip bogus.

Pjeter Pan
11-01-2014, 12:24 AM
Only 108 times within 10 hours xD

They should have used a white girl

SkyBurn
11-01-2014, 12:32 AM
They dare to misuse the power of "sup?" How low society has fallen

Skyburn, would you bang that chick in the video? I'd be all like "sup?" but in the right place and time.

Sup is a poor example. Most of the time people are saying things like "hey beautiful" and such (which is essentially commenting on her appearance rather than polite greeting).

And yeah why not - she's not at all bad looking

SkyBurn
11-01-2014, 12:38 AM
She's pretty but I'm sure she's irritating. You're asking if she likes her ravioli and the next thing you know she's berating you for being part of the oppressive patriarchy.

A quick google shows she's an actress, not a liberal arts student. I would place bets that this video was to put her in the spotlight, making a name for herself and further her career. The entertainment industry is very tough to crack into, especially in NY.

That's not to say that she doesn't have a point though. Being leered at isn't exactly fun. I would know - one look at me and all the people on the streets run up and ask for my 9 inch penis *Melonhead mode off*

Chrissi
11-01-2014, 01:29 AM
I don't think it's right to downplay it just because they seemed "nice" or "friendly" don't be so naive you never know what's going on in someones mind. I personally don't feel threatened most of the time but it's still annoying and insulting when ugly foreign and old guys hit on you it's like they have the audacity to think they have any chance at all. Now and then there are some persistent ones from my experience usually middle easterners who won't leave or keep talking to you. Just few weeks ago I was out with some friends and two guys who couldn't even speak our language only broken english followed us after we refused to talk to them and then literally ran after us until we lost them. It was ridiculous. Would you like any of your female relatives to be approached by strange men? I don't think so.

Leo Iscariot
11-01-2014, 01:42 AM
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10405430_730377030411345_4908059883427694651_n.png ?oh=6c7bed2f6db0f3a0d00f6e29059344c4&oe=54E86E23

robar
11-01-2014, 01:51 AM
I thought freedom of speech and freedom of expression is protected in the so free US.
So , what most of the men did in the video is not illegal or shouldn't be.

In my opinion if I see a nice ass in the street I have all the right (as I usually does) to shout :Nice ass baby. That's freedom of expression.:D

Óttar
11-01-2014, 01:53 AM
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10405430_730377030411345_4908059883427694651_n.png ?oh=6c7bed2f6db0f3a0d00f6e29059344c4&oe=54E86E23
Not to mention overextend the word misogynistic to mean anything that is even remotely critical of women, or whatever they don't like.

Arbërori
11-01-2014, 02:34 AM
The niggers are hilarious tbh, I found the guy that walked besides her for some time so funny, his voice was insane... xD

It does get annoying though, I mean couldn't they come up with better pick up lines?

Arch Hades
11-01-2014, 02:50 AM
Women like to be approached, but only by high quality men.

If the girl walked around NY for a month and no high quality male noticed her or payed her any mind she'd grow probably grow suicidal.

LightHouse89
11-01-2014, 03:21 AM
He's a Libertarian rather than Liberal in modern politics. Liberal as in Ron Paul, Tea Party Liberal. If you know what I mean.

Yeah but they are pretty much the same....well Libertarians to me a just radical Liberals really....where as people who claim they are liberals but vote democrat are really just socialist-liberals. conservatives are just the shadow group of old school liberals holding onto older ideas......the whole system at its fundamental core though is Liberal or Liberalism.

Liberalism at one time was too extreme for Europe or the world so it was contained here....unfortunately it spread into France and later the rest of Europe which is why the western world is dying today.

LightHouse89
11-01-2014, 03:22 AM
I thought freedom of speech and freedom of expression is protected in the so free US.
So , what most of the men did in the video is not illegal or shouldn't be.

In my opinion if I see a nice ass in the street I have all the right (as I usually does) to shout :Nice ass baby. That's freedom of expression.:D

I agree since we gave animals the same freedoms no one can complain here and this should include feminists who blame all men yet the only men who are perverted ot them are these animals from africa or the caribbean.

Óttar
11-01-2014, 03:38 AM
If the girl walked around NY for a month and no high quality male noticed her or payed her any mind she'd grow probably grow suicidal.
I'd bet the same thing if the average chick had the average man's experience on OKCupid.

Raven_
11-01-2014, 06:12 AM
I'm sure most of them knew they had no chance. It's a sad way of showing everyone around them that they're men. As if wanting to bang some chick passing by needs to be vocalized or everyone will think they're a fag.

Then I don't think anti-street harassment campaigns will actually affect them in any way. Voluptuous girls like her may want to consider less tight clothes perhaps. Just like a fat girl should not wear overly short and tight blouses that expose her rolls of fat, if she doesn't want to receive disgusted stares.

War Chef
11-01-2014, 08:38 AM
I remember I went jogging this summer shirtless a few times, and got yelled at often by passing cars "ur hawwwt" lol. Anyway I don't complain but enjoy every minute of it, call me arrogant but it feels great to be admired after years of neglect and I don't think there could ever be "too much". I think she's being unappreciative. When she is old and menopausing she will crave the attention she had in her youth. She's not vulnerable in a busy public street in broad daylight to have to worry about rape or forceful touching so she must be uncomfortable with attention, being in the spotlight with all eyes on her, but she should not act as if this is a one-sided gender issue since males can suffer (or enjoy every minute, depending if introvert or extrovert) from this as well. How would this (http://www.nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Bomer.jpg) sharply dressed male get treated if he took a walk down the same street? Should we make a video about it?

Trun
11-01-2014, 09:04 AM
Lol why does she look like a weightlifter?

Shkembe Chorba
11-01-2014, 12:18 PM
Haha.

Graham
11-01-2014, 04:26 PM
She does martial arts. Probably another reason why she was chosen.

She'd have snapped you in two Trun. :victory0:

Trun
11-01-2014, 04:29 PM
She'd have snapped you in two Trun. :victory0:

She looks at least 10 kilos more than me, I'd have thought twice before whistling after her.

RandoBloom
11-01-2014, 04:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzzjfjyO52o&channel=shmeet

Shkembe Chorba
11-01-2014, 05:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzzjfjyO52o&channel=shmeet

WONDER-FUCKING-FUL

Oneeye
11-01-2014, 05:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzzjfjyO52o&channel=shmeet

xD


I get this all the time.

Shkembe Chorba
11-04-2014, 07:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BytjlzkDVIg

Steve-O
11-04-2014, 07:31 PM
This happens to all good looking, and especially curvy women in NYC, whether they are white or not.. I think though that if the lady in the video was more ethnic looking, the white guys in the video would have just kept it moving.

Incal
11-05-2014, 08:12 PM
Third world culture.

This.

shimmy
11-08-2014, 12:49 AM
Harassed?? FGS... every girl in the world heard much worst than that from 15yo or even less. Walking for 10 hours what did people expected? There's nothing special about this... just sensacionalism.
It's annoying... yes.. some guys are perverts.. yes. But we're capable of ignoring, smile, answer sarcasticly or whatever. As long as he doesn't touch me, as long as he goes away when I say enough, and of course as long as I'm not being pushed into a dark street, I wouldn't call this "harassement".

Atvend
11-08-2014, 04:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75aX9mlipiY

Look at the comments, notice the feminazis and their pathetic attempts at finding a way around admitting that men get the same treatment. These gender supremacists should at least not insult us by pretending they fight for equality.

Atvend
11-08-2014, 04:44 AM
That very, very rarely happens to me, lol, or 95% of other men. The guy is a model. The chick was pretty but not a model. Guy must be banging different chicks every night.

You are a representative of all men, since when? Also have you been to New York, even with 8 million people it doesn't have too many quality goods, if you know what I mean. You certainly don't have to be a model to be "harassed" in there.