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Pallantides
04-03-2010, 03:37 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/World_2000_BCE.png

I didn't know Finno-Ugrians populated the western part of Norway, I would think areas in mid Norway like Oppland would have more Finno-ugric contribution, In Heimskringla Snorri mentiones a Svåse Finnekonge(King of Finns) from Dovre in Oppland who's daughter Snøfrid Svåsesdotter, Harald Fairhair took as his wife.

On all Genetic tests western Norwegians cluster further west than eastern Norwegians, I doubt that would have been the case if the area was populated by Finno-Ugrian peoples, so the map seems a bit dubious to me, but I guess they could always have been pushed out by the encroaching Indo-Europeans.

poiuytrewq0987
04-03-2010, 04:07 AM
Map looks like it was made using paint LOL.

Ibericus
04-03-2010, 04:12 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/World_2000_BCE.png

I didn't know Finno-Ugrians populated the western part of Norway, I would think areas in mid Norway like Oppland would have more Finno-ugric contribution, In Heimskringla Snorri mentiones a Svåse Finnekonge(King of Finns) from Dovre in Oppland who's daughter Snøfrid Svåsesdotter, Harald Fairhair took as his wife.

On all Genetic tests western Norwegians cluster further west than eastern Norwegians, I doubt that would have been the case if the area was populated by Finno-Ugrian peoples, so the map seems a bit dubious to me.

Depens on the level of germanic settlement.

Pallantides
04-03-2010, 04:17 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Stone_Age

These early peoples followed cultural traditions similar to those practiced throughout other regions in the far north – areas including modern Finland, Russia, and across the Bering Strait into the northernmost strip of North America (comprising portions of today's Alaska and Canada).

Psychonaut
04-03-2010, 06:59 AM
Accurate for what period of time? No global ethnic map will be accurate for more than a century or so.

Äike
04-03-2010, 09:17 AM
I have this history atlas (http://pood.rahvaraamat.ee/Content/ProductImages/product_5/40/R056140.jpg) and I've seen maps in there which show that the Finno-Ugrics were very close to the Skagerrak, if not next to it.

The Black Prince
04-03-2010, 01:44 PM
The map you've shown is from the Neolithic-Bronze Age transition period. The part of the 'Germanic' settlers (who originated from the area of Denmark and the surrounding North-Germany and South-Sweden) who migrated to the north (Mid- and West-Norway, rest of Sweden) did so not earlier as the Late Iron-Age and Roman Iron-Age period.
The more northern parts of Norway were only reached from the Viking Age onwards.