Guys what determines a feminist in your opinion?

[Stefan_Dusan]

To me its very simple: if she insists on women and men being equal in all cases. For women to be able and allowed to do whatever men do no matter what biological role or how bad this would be on society as whole.

I never see men doing it (except gays). Biggest example I always give to such women : Would you want to see men walking around in the downtown of your city in high heels, makeup and skirts?

Anyways, give me your opinions. I guess women are welcome to this as well xD

[Pjeter Pan]

Not wanting to cook and clean

[Stefan_Dusan]

Not wanting to cook and clean

This is specific subcategory of my example above. Women who wants everything 'equal' will expect man to take part in the cooking and cleaning even though this is her natural role in making the house a better place for the kids. The feminist sacrifices the house happiness for this weird notion of 'equality.'

[Agron]

For me feminism isn't really about equality but more about women being supperior and thus being treated as such. If really it was about equality (which I think is needed to a certain extent) then it would be named something like "equalitism".

[Pjeter Pan]

This is specific subcategory of my example above. Women who wants everything 'equal' will expect man to take part in the cooking and cleaning even though this is her natural role in making the house a better place for the kids. The feminist sacrifices the house happiness for this weird notion of 'equality.'
It worst for the kids, because neither parents are around.

Who's gonna raise the kids? A Nanny?

[Graus]

Feminism isnt about about equality but about preferential treatment. They want all rights of guys without the obligations. They basically want to eat the cake and keep it.

[Stefan_Dusan]

For me feminism isn't really about equality but more about women being supperior and thus being treated as such. If really it was about equality (which I think is needed to a certain extent) then it would be named something like "equalitism".

In some cases 'equality' turns into superiority when the parties are not equal themselves. I give you great example: affirmative action.

Why should Blacks have same slots in a University to their population (equality) when they achieve far less in schools (inequality).

In much the same way is how feminism functions, putting women as 'equal' to men when they are not.

[Immortal Technique]

Bitches should stay in da kitchen forever

[Agron]

In some cases 'equality' turns into superiority when the parties are not equal themselves. I give you great example: affirmative action.

Why should Blacks have same slots in a University to their population (equality) when they achieve far less in schools (inequality).

In much the same way is how feminism functions, putting women as 'equal' to men when they are not.

Good example.

It is as it is and different human races are not equal in doing the same things, let alone different genders.

[Stefan_Dusan]

Good example.

It is as it is and different human races are not equal in doing the same things, let alone different genders.

It's clear nature made women/men complimentary roles, not to do the same role. Why society wants to turn this on the head, when its not working? (divorce is high, unhappiness in the house is high) is beyond me.

[Gustave H]

A feminist is a woman who wants to be a man. They want their husbands/boyfriends to become women and cook and clean for them, they want to be dominant and want the males in their lives to be submissive, they just hate themselves. It's an inferiority complex. The most inferior people are those always demanding to be treated equally. I could go on but Stefan summed it up pretty well.

[Agron]

It's clear nature made women/men complimentary roles, not to do the same role. Why society wants to turn this on the head, when its not working? (divorce is high, unhappiness in the house is high) is beyond me.

I think many people think that way but as society made it to be frowned upon to think that way (maybe because of liberalism) thus many people hide their true opinion (the same way as in racialism). Society maybe wants us to forget/beat our animal nature.

[Stefan_Dusan]

I think many people think that way but as society made it to be frowned upon to think that way (maybe because of liberalism) thus many people hide their true opinion (the same way as in racialism). Society maybe wants us to forget/beat our animal nature.

In all cases, the enemy of other men is men themselves. I cannot tell you more than enough how much I've seen other men mock other men for such opinions as "women won't go for you!" as result. I've seen it on this forum, which is supposedly conservative forum. Men trying to weaken other man's sense of manhood by suggesting to him if he thinks this way he won't find a woman.

The thing with racism is very similar, I see a lot of white men expressing racist attitudes to trusted friends but in 'polite' society they ostracize others for even milder attitudes then they express!

It's sheep mentality. I always say to live like a lion for one day, you cannot live like a worm for the entire of your life. People need to be honest about their opinions both in private and public. This is how I am, I even post with my full name here, and don't give a fuck if someone I knew "IRL" reads my opinion.

[Mortimer]

A feminist is someone who engages in womens rights activities or support it, that might start with something small which is normal for us but not in all countries. like the womens rights to drive a car or to vote etc. i dont think feminism is per se bad, i dont like "dominas" though who like submissive men and want to be superior, the latter is mostly seen as feminism nowadays, but i support the first.

[FeederOfRavens]

The end result of things like feminism, transexuality, excessive homosexuality is to build an androgynous society where the line between man and woman is blurred so much it's unrecognizable.

[wvwvw]

For me feminism isn't really about equality but more about women being supperior and thus being treated as such. If really it was about equality (which I think is needed to a certain extent) then it would be named something like "equalitism".
That's not what feminism is about. Feminism is about equal opportunities and equal valuing of both men and women. :rolleyes:

I am a feminist but I love men. I am not trying to be like a man because I enjoy being a woman. I also recognize that men are better in certain things than women and vice versa. Just because men-hating women have hijacked the concept of feminism it doesn't mean that feminism is wrong in itself.

[Agron]

That's not what feminism is about. Feminism is about equal opportunities and equal valuing of both men and women. :rolleyes:

That's what it was meant to be, not what it actually is.

[Alenka]

I am a feminist and I love to belittle men.

Fixed. Feminists love to belittle men. They also love to belittle the worth of female-specific roles, including motherhood. They want to turn women into men. And the other way around. They are twisted. They hate on women who enjoy being women. I feel more oppressed by feminists than I do by men.

[Leo Iscariot]

https://i.imgur.com/Co33XFp.jpg

The first two waves. Third wavers are little more than gynocentric man-haters.

[wvwvw]

Fixed. Feminists love to belittle men. They also love to belittle the worth of female-specific roles, including motherhood. They want to turn women into men. And the other way around. They are twisted. They hate on women who enjoy being women. I feel more oppressed by feminists than I do by men.

This is going from one extreme to another. I personally support the traditional roles of sexes, what I am against is the belittling of women's role in society, like getting paid less for the same work, being offered less opportunities than men, or being patronized by men. You also need to see things in perspective. In Germany feminists (many of who are men) have taken feminism to the extreme. But in more sexist societies, like in Greece we could do with a bit more feminism, because there are still men who equate masculinity with all the wrong things (like cleaning and cooking).

[Queen B]

The feminists today aren't about advocating the rights of a woman, neither to be treated equally.
Its to emasculate men and act superior, but treated as females then its their favor.

I'm not supporting feminism in any way. Not the feminism that is represented anyway.

Yes ~ I demand the same wage when I do my job as good as a man does.
Yes ~ I want to be treated equaly against the law and the state, I don't want to be treated favorably or unfavorably.
Yes ~ I think that I'd love some help in the house when both me and my husband work.

But...

N0 ~ there is no reason for him to iron the shirts and do the laundry. He can carry the groceries since he is stronger, he can get the trash outside, he can work on the garden, plumping,etc. I will iron, cook, clean, do the girly stuff..
NO ~ Its not okay to beat me or verbally abuse me- neither is okay if I do the same.

Generally, I am traditional in many senses, but I just can't see unfairness.
I mean,I would happily do all the house chores if I'm not employed and he is . I won't do it if he is unemployed and I am. Its impossible to think of me returning from work and having to do all the chores why he is watching TV all day.
I'd love to take care of my man, cook for him, massage him, and do things for him. Because I like it too, not because I have to and I'm asked to.
And I'd love to have my man taking care of me. Flirting me like we just met, do the manly work that I'm so ''delicate'' to do, spoil me the old way

[Stefan_Dusan]

The feminists today aren't about advocating the rights of a woman, neither to be treated equally.
Its to emasculate men and act superior, but treated as females then its their favor.

I'm not supporting feminism in any way. Not the feminism that is represented anyway.

Yes ~ I demand the same wage when I do my job as good as a man does.
Yes ~ I want to be treated equaly against the law and the state, I don't want to be treated favorably or unfavorably.
Yes ~ I think that I'd love some help in the house when both me and my husband work.

But...

N0 ~ there is no reason for him to iron the shirts and do the laundry. He can carry the groceries since he is stronger, he can get the trash outside, he can work on the garden, plumping,etc. I will iron, cook, clean, do the girly stuff..
NO ~ Its not okay to beat me or verbally abuse me- neither is okay if I do the same.

Generally, I am traditional in many senses, but I just can't see unfairness.
I mean,I would happily do all the house chores if I'm not employed and he is . I won't do it if he is unemployed and I am. Its impossible to think of me returning from work and having to do all the chores why he is watching TV all day.
I'd love to take care of my man, cook for him, massage him, and do things for him. Because I like it too, not because I have to and I'm asked to.
And I'd love to have my man taking care of me. Flirting me like we just met, do the manly work that I'm so ''delicate'' to do, spoil me the old way

I can respect this viewpoint. If you do equal job, you should get paid the same, no need not to.

About the carrying of groceries, my mother would vacuum the house, but she asked me to carry the vacuum between floors as it was "too heavy." When we would travel as family, and had luggage, I would have to carry luggage to car of her and my sisters. I remember some of my sisters would insist they could carry it, afterall it wasn't so heavy for them, but my mother would shush them "it's not good for your back!" and have me do it.

In the end, it's healthy house roles. Back in my village women were expected to do the heavy labour as well (wood chopping, carrying) and I'm against this, women are not mules, but they have roles as men have roles.

[Queen B]

I can respect this viewpoint. If you do equal job, you should get paid the same, no need not to.

About the carrying of groceries, my mother would vacuum the house, but she asked me to carry the vacuum between floors as it was "too heavy." When we would travel as family, and had luggage, I would have to carry luggage to car of her and my sisters. I remember some of my sisters would insist they could carry it, afterall it wasn't so heavy for them, but my mother would shush them "it's not good for your back!" and have me do it.

In the end, it's healthy house roles. Back in my village women were expected to do the heavy labour as well (wood chopping, carrying) and I'm against this, women are not mules, but they have roles as men have roles.

I agree on that. There is a reason that we are by default built that way.We are not physically the same.
Men are stronger, women are more delicate.
We are (averagely speaking always) more delicate and refined, you are stronger.
So, I will sew, I will iron, I will cook, decorate, blabla
He will carry, protect and do the ''dirty'' job.

I don't prefer the equal kind of : We both do both things.
I prefer the : each do what he is built to do.

Of course, If I'm alone, I'll do all those things, and he will do all those things, but when you form a family, things should be done this way.
And this how I do it. I'm not expecting everyone to do it, and I do respect couples that have agreed on another method and they like it and it works for them, but let them keep it for them. No advocates of how it should be for others.

[dude]

In my view feminists are women who scream very loud about equality, but when it comes down to it they come up short to keeping up with males. They also want to dominate men in general, as if men purpose in life is to be their slave. This happens because they believe that we, all men, owe to them for the women's oppression in the past, therefor, men in general, must pay to them.

[War Chef]

Its to emasculate men

This. My boss/supervisor is a feminist and I didn't know this until she started nagging me and several male co-workers about our facial hair. I told her I simply don't have time to shave every morning. Last night me and 2 female co-workers were walking out together and she told us "bye girls", considering me a girl. I suspect she's a feminist because I've seen her husband and he's significantly shorter than her, so I feel she married him to get some kind of dominance. You know there's always the possibility I'm over-analyzing this but there are also many other clues that make me think she's a feminist. I get the clear impression she's intimidated by me, either my deep voice or muscles. That said I still like her as a person, I just wish she wasn't on my balls all the time.

[Desaix DeBurgh]

Don't buy into the politically-correct nonsense in which men and women are said to be 'equal'. What this idiotic doctrine has done is to provide a rationale for feminizing men, thus making them weaker and less aggressive in protecting their own and their family's freedom, and making them more easily manipulated by government bureaucrats.
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140202222433/walkingdead/images/thumb/8/83/American_Freedom_Fighter.jpg/406px-American_Freedom_Fighter.jpg

[Faklon]

In the end, it's healthy house roles. Back in my village women were expected to do the heavy labour as well (wood chopping, carrying) and I'm against this, women are not mules, but they have roles as men have roles.

That's interesting,I wouldn't say that there were the only ones who did it but it's kind of unfair for these women to be seen as weak by idealists no matter your ideas or the morals of the season.

My paternal great-grandmother also carried a gun when their village was burned 2 times(one by Italians who also killed her brother and later wholly by the Germans) in WW2.

[shimmy]

Men and women are not equal, yay! It would be a very boring world.
But their rights should be the same, that's obvious for me. In some countries a woman who is raped is stoned, while nothing happens to the man who did it, this is ultrageous!
Also some decades ago women ususally didn't work, men provided and women did the housekeeping. Nowadays women work, they provide also, is it too much to ask that men also do their half at home?
Of course each person is different and if a couple agrees on diferent tasks for each one is totally fine. But to obligate someone because it's a traditional role?
Should a women be forbidden to be an engeneer just because most the average women don't have the spacial capacity do it? Should a men be forbidden to be a chef because it's a tradicional women role? Plz...
We're all different and we have different interests. I am a pilot. Fortunately nowadays I can be. In some countries I would't have that RIGHT.

So IMO:
feminism - women and men should have the same rights - YES
feminism - women should have more rights then man, or the same rights with other privileges - NO

[Foxy]

I partly agree, but I still think that women can serve in army.

[D´Sanglard]

I partly agree, but I still think that women can serve in army.

If you have the same training as us, no problem

[Argonian]

feminism simulation videogame


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jkSg6ttXqY

[Foxy]

If you have the same training as us, no problem

Of course. I myself workout 3 times a week. I am not strong enough, but where I go I see women who do tractions and push ups exactly like men do. It's neither true that this training makes women look like men, not if they don't take hormones. Just look at gymnastics.

Btw under fascism, that was quite maschilist, women workout hard as well.

[Foxy]

Btw a man that is able to cook is not feminized, it is just a dude able to survive alone, without the mummy (that can be both the natural mother or a mother-wife). A man that cleans is not feminized as well, he just cares about hygiene.
Feminized men are those who care too much about how they look, style and fashion, that don't workout and have jelly bodies, that are mentally weak, and that are not able to survive alone (it includes that they are unable to fix things, cooking, cleaning) and finally that don't know what they want and live the life not as protagonist but as victims. A man must be able to do all alone and also in the hardest circumstances he is strong enough to survive (also mentally).

[Petalpusher]

sub product of mondialism

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2817191/62p-HOUR-s-women-sleeping-16-room-paid-make-Ed-Harriet-s-45-Feminist-Looks-Like-T-shirts.html

[Seraph of the End]

How didn't I see this thread before :tongue_002:

I've been accused of being a feminist, but I don't think I am one (in a sense that I think women are better than men). Yes, I am for equal rights when it comes to education, jobs and military. Education should be allowed for everyone, and both men and women should be able to go to university. Everyone should be able to get the job if he/she is capable of doing it. Women should be allowed to serve in the army if they are strong enough, both mentaly and physicaly. I am aware that women are physicaly weaker and most of us wouldn't be able to do the same things men can do but if a woman is competent, why should she be rejected? Just because she has a vagina instead of a dick? Please. (Criterium shouldn't be easier for them, but if they can do what is required then why not?)

Now, when it comes to housework and family oriented things I do agree that there are "female" and "male" jobs. If man works and woman doesn't, it's normal for her to cook, wash the dishes, iron and all other things. But, if both man and woman work they should split the job. Why couldn't man cook once in a while? In most families today both man and woman work, both man and woman earn the money and they mostly live in the cities where men don't have to do hard jobs like, let's say, wood chopping. So, if they have nothing else to do they should help their wifes.

Yes, I am for equality but not for the superiority of either men or women. Men shouldn't be above the women just like the women shouldn't be above the men. Both should respect each other and work together ... and of course, if woman likes her traditional role that's great. No one should tell her she's being used if she likes what she's doing.

My mother, for example, loved to cook, knit, sew, clean, embroider (and do all those female stuff). She did them but never because it was expected from her but because she liked doing them. Her opinion had the same value as my father's opinion and he never did anything before talking to her before. Everything they did, they did together. That's the type of a relationship I want in the future. And if someone thinks I'm a feminist - I don't really care xD

[Raven_]

There is a clear division of roles based on gender in my family as well. Men in my family can do all the masculine jobs from car fixing to plumbing, electricity and so on. Taking rubbish is certainly not the most demanding job they get to do. Since they live their own lives now, it seems they do a favour more than my mother who cooks food and cleans her house (jobs she would be doing anyway). In fact, I don't get when women view cooking solely as a way to please men. Being able to cook greatly benefits for yourself and your kids. It's just a way to excuse laziness.
Anyway, women these days may feel like they don't 'own' cooking and doing cleaning because their men don't do typically masculine jobs either (it may apply more for those who live in urban areas) while both of them are breadwinners. That said, I would not (edit) necessarily assign confuse regarding gender roles to what some feminist has said.

[Rædwald]

If you see a girl with brightly unnatural coloured hair run as fast as possible in the opposite direction.

[glam]

You guys are getting too in-depth with gender roles, as long as people do what they please and are happy, it shouldn't matter. If a man enjoys cooking, or staying at home and a woman wants to...oh you know...not have acid thrown on them for denying marriage (http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cedaw/docs/cedaw_crc_contributions/AvonGlobalCenterforWomenandJustice.pdf) or, literally not have a rape happen in the us every two minutes (https://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/frequency-of-sexual-assault)...and these are just three examples, violence and assault happen to women all over the world every day, for no other reason than having a vagina,

Life is too short to care about gender roles, once we die, no one will care if you had been a man who stayed at home or a woman lumberjack. Feminism is about uplifting women to stand up against those who don't see us as worth of personhood, for ourselves and for future generations.

[glam]

lol here (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/) is the third example. I didn't proofread:

125 million girls (GIRLS, not WOMEN) have had their genitals mutilated for no reason other than to rid women of the "privilege" of sexual pleasure...

[Svipdag]

It worst for the kids, because neither parents are around.

Who's gonna raise the kids? A Nanny?

No, unfortunately, a day care center where they will not be taught right from wrong and will have a strong chance of developing into amoral sociopaths.

[Incal]

This is just an Anglo phenomena. Will never follow suit in the rest of the world. Since feminists don't want to have kids they will extinct themselves.

[Svipdag]

That's not what feminism is about. Feminism is about equal opportunities and equal valuing of both men and women. :rolleyes:

I am a feminist but I love men. I am not trying to be like a man because I enjoy being a woman. I also recognize that men are better in certain things than women and vice versa. Just because men-hating women have hijacked the concept of feminism it doesn't mean that feminism is wrong in itself.

If you enjoy being, and supposedly are, a woman, why do you use the male symbol for your gender ?

[glam]

If you enjoy being, and supposedly are, a woman, why do you use the male symbol for your gender ?

wait i thought you were talking to me nvm

[War Chef]

violence and assault happen to women all over the world every day, for no other reason than having a vagina,

Violence directed towards women happens because of sexual or emotional frustration coming from the man, not that this is a justification but I'm just putting it out there. Those types of men have entitlement feelings and when they don't get what they want they chimp out. Lot's of men can't take no for an answer and don't like to have the door closed on them suddenly. When someone is interested in me and I don't feel the same way back, I close the door slowly instead of just slamming it. I know I don't get nearly as much attention as an average female would, so for women maybe it becomes a habit to just rudely "troll" men who show interest in her because it happens so often. Instead of complaining about forceful guys why don't you find a normal semi-passive guy who isn't that way, and have him shield you from those forceful guys?


Feminism is about uplifting women to stand up against those who don't see us as worth of personhood, for ourselves and for future generations.

The problem is when you generalize man as being an oppressor of your personhood you are making an irrational assumption and sounding somewhat paranoid. The reality is the opposite, your "personhood" is held in very high regard and you have privileges that men lack. For example if me and you started arguing here in this thread (let's not please), and both hurled insults at each-other, you a random delicate female would get more support, while I would be villainized and banned.




125 million girls (GIRLS, not WOMEN) have had their genitals mutilated for no reason other than to rid women of the "privilege" of sexual pleasure...

Well insane religious zealots do weird stuff like that. I guess male circumcision to infants is comparable in some way, though reducing sexual pleasure is not the main intent, it is a result (http://www.livescience.com/27769-does-circumcision-reduce-sexual-pleasure.html). So your 125 million girls (over-inflated statistic BTW) vs. our at least 1 billion circumcised males. Even though I'm against barbaric things like female circumcision, it is effective and prevents teenage pregnancy. Their intent is to focus on transcendental things and not primal urges like sex and procreation, ALSO you are making it out to be like males are the ones circumcising females, when it's pretty obvious to have knowledge about the pleasure centers you'd have to consult a female herself regarding their own lady parts. My guess is the trend started with older female tribal leaders gathering around and saying: "look, this was a distraction during our youth, and I think it's best our younger generation does not have this distraction so they can devout all their attention to god".

[glam]

Instead of complaining about forceful guys why don't you find a normal semi-passive guy who isn't that way, and have him shield you from those forceful guys?
.

Why do I need a shield when we can just try to stop the bullets from flying? I shouldn't have to defend myself from men who are raised systematically to believe that women OWE them sex (See: every nerd gets the girl-type movie ever). Yes I know not every man is like that, and yayyy cookie for those who are just so kind enough to see women as people..


The problem is when you generalize man as being an oppressor of your personhood you are making an irrational assumption and sounding somewhat paranoid. The reality is the opposite, your "personhood" is held in very high regard and you have privileges that men lack. For example if me and you started arguing here in the thread, and both hurled insults at each-other, you a random delicate female would get more support, whereas I would be villainized and banned. .

When I say man I the systematic patriarchy, which is something WE ALL lose from. The reason why you would, hypothetically, be scrutinized and I would be maybe supported, is because you, a man, is seen as an adult. You're generalized as someone who can "put on his big boy pants" and take the beating. I would be seen as a child throwing insults at "someone who knows better". Being dis-empowered like that is NOT a privilege, it's insulting to my and my fellow women's intellect and strength.


when it's pretty obvious to have knowledge about the pleasure centers you'd have to consult a female herself regarding their own lady parts. My guess is the trend started with older females saying: "look, this was a distraction during our youth, and I think it's best our younger generation does not have this distraction so they can devout all their attention to god". .

Bruh do you even know what female circumcision is

[War Chef]

Why do I need a shield when we can just try to stop the bullets from flying? I shouldn't have to defend myself from men who are raised systematically to believe that women OWE them sex (See: every nerd gets the girl-type movie ever). Yes I know not every man is like that, and yayyy cookie for those who are just so kind enough to see women as people..

Well we have come a long way when just over 100 years ago women were regarded as nothing more than commodities and baby making machines. Women were the motivation behind wars (Helen of Troy) and even Mongol invasion of Europe (it is said they brought back to Karakorum 30,000 captured concubines from Poland, Hungary & Ukraine). My point is men have a carnivorous appetite for beautiful women and there's not much you can do to change that about us, we're extremely shallow.... but what you can change is your strategies when you are approached by us.


You're generalized as someone who can "put on his big boy pants" and take the beating. I would be seen as a child throwing insults at "someone who knows better". Being dis-empowered like that is NOT a privilege, it's insulting to my and my fellow women's intellect and strength.

The first women's suffrage movements were complaining about mistreatment (http://doublethink.us.com/paala/2012/11/06/voted/susan-b-anthony-beaten-for-trying-to-vote-in-1872/), but now it's deviated in the opposite direction - modern feminists complain about how they don't want everything to be handed to them so easily. Seems like they can't make their mind up on what they really want, eh?



Bruh do you even know what female circumcision is

I didn't really research into it much, I watched a documentary years back about African girls getting it, and there was usually a council of elders who would call the shots (though males actually did the incisions). Care to describe me the details? ;)

[glam]

My point is men have a carnivorous appetite for beautiful women and there's not much you can do to change that about us, we're extremely shallow.... but what you can change is your strategies when you are approached by us.

That's like someone shitting on the floor and saying "Well, people have to shit. Can't help it!!!" I mean, people in the past shit & vomited on the streets, but then we realized how problematic and disgusting it is, so we stopped.

Also it sounds like some girl rejected you recently. Sorry bruh, try a better approach next time. It's not her fault she didn't want you.


The first women's suffrage movements were complaining about mistreatment, but now it's deviated in the opposite direction - modern feminists complain about how they don't want everything to be handed to them so easily. Seems like they can't make their mind up on what they want..

Is having identical rights too much??? I mean people who work the same amount of hours and just as hard should expect to be paid the same?? People who are at more of a risk of abuse by the system should be able to vote on the same laws?? People who own land and pay taxes should vote, yes??? Feminism is truly like having a cake, and cutting it in half. One half for males, one half for females. When one party takes more cake than is just, we collectively work together to fix the issue and make it fair. Everyone wins.


I didn't really research into it much, I watched a documentary years back about African girls getting it, and there was usually a council of elders who would call the shots (though males actually did the incisions). Care to describe me the details?.
Gross.
Also, you admitted that you didn't even know where the pleasure centers on a woman are... no wonder it seems like you're having trouble finding a date

[Peter Nirsch]

Feminists are all ugly lesbians.

[Yuffayur]

Small tits and flat ass.

[War Chef]

Also it sounds like some girl rejected you recently. Sorry bruh, try a better approach next time. It's not her fault she didn't want you.

Yup, that's it, you got me. :rolleyes:


Also, you admitted that you didn't even know where the pleasure centers on a woman are... no wonder it seems like you're having trouble finding a date

Desperate ad hominem attack. Ironically though it's coming from an inexperienced 19-year old who is most likely overweight and not very attractive. :)

[glam]

Desperate ad hominem attack. Ironically though it's coming from an inexperienced 19-year old who is most likely overweight and not very attractive. :)

I'm calling it like it is, and I'm calling it be experience. At least when I insulted you it was through deductive reasoning based on ACTUAL THINGS THAT YOU HAVE SAID. Whereas you have no idea how I look, so along with your insult having no gravity, it's based on physical appearance which, if it were true, could be changed.

Anyway, I'm still hot and you still don't know what a clitoris does.

[Kazimiera]

Feminists are the women who have made it possible for us to vote. Feminists are the women who have made it possible for a woman to own land. Feminists are the women who have provided rape crisis centers. Feminists have brought about that forced sex within a marriage is a criminal offense. Feminists have fought for the right of women to initiate divorce. Feminists have fought for women to hold jobs.

This "new wave feminism" we see today is not feminism. Today's "new wave feminists" spit on the graves of the women who have sometimes paid with their lives to give them a voice.

[Ultra]

You guys are getting too in-depth with gender roles, as long as people do what they please and are happy, it shouldn't matter. If a man enjoys cooking, or staying at home and a woman wants to...oh you know...not have acid thrown on them for denying marriage (http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cedaw/docs/cedaw_crc_contributions/AvonGlobalCenterforWomenandJustice.pdf) or, literally not have a rape happen in the us every two minutes (https://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/frequency-of-sexual-assault)...and these are just three examples, violence and assault happen to women all over the world every day, for no other reason than having a vagina,

Life is too short to care about gender roles, once we die, no one will care if you had been a man who stayed at home or a woman lumberjack. Feminism is about uplifting women to stand up against those who don't see us as worth of personhood, for ourselves and for future generations.


lol here (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/) is the third example. I didn't proofread:

125 million girls (GIRLS, not WOMEN) have had their genitals mutilated for no reason other than to rid women of the "privilege" of sexual pleasure...
Yet you feminists want all these third-world niggers who throw acid in women's faces, mutilate their vaginas and do most of the raping to flood our countries and somehow make third-world hominid behaviour to be something of a "global male privilege problem".

[Atvend]

You guys are getting too in-depth with gender roles, as long as people do what they please and are happy, it shouldn't matter. If a man enjoys cooking, or staying at home and a woman wants to...oh you know...not have acid thrown on them for denying marriage (http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/cedaw/docs/cedaw_crc_contributions/AvonGlobalCenterforWomenandJustice.pdf) or, literally not have a rape happen in the us every two minutes (https://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/frequency-of-sexual-assault)...and these are just three examples, violence and assault happen to women all over the world every day, for no other reason than having a vagina,

Life is too short to care about gender roles, once we die, no one will care if you had been a man who stayed at home or a woman lumberjack. Feminism is about uplifting women to stand up against those who don't see us as worth of personhood, for ourselves and for future generations.

Fair enough, only feminism today REFUSES to deal with that. Its much more important to bitch about a fictional wage gap, a fictional rape culture, a fictional patriarchy that controls and orients society (Illuminati style), fictional widespread misogyny, AND most importantly fictional sexism in video games! Yes that's right, sexism in video games to feminists these days outweighs the situation in many third world countries and female genitalia mutilation that you also mention. If you were aware of the recent controversies you would know that $160,000 were thrown at a specific character so that we could be "educated" on the extremely important and oppressing issue of sexism in video games. How much money exactly goes to the issues you mentioned?

Female circumcision? I am in total agreement, the issue must be dealt with! But if feminists were for gender equality as they pretend to be, they would bother to mention male circumcision as well, which is arguably a much more widespread problem. Of course they either are unable or blatantly refuse to recognize any issue men might have, a typical trait of sociopathy this. And when MRAs emerge to tackle these neglected and real issues like custody rights, paternity fraud, circumcision, reproductive rights, divorce, domestic violence, rape allegations, education, GUESS WHAT! They are immediately branded as misogynists. With all this in mind, I can logically conclude that feminism today is a supremacist movement.

[War Chef]

I'm calling it like it is, and I'm calling it be experience. At least when I insulted you it was through deductive reasoning based on ACTUAL THINGS THAT YOU HAVE SAID. Whereas you have no idea how I look, so along with your insult having no gravity, it's based on physical appearance which, if it were true, could be changed.

Anyway, I'm still hot and you still don't know what a clitoris does.

Hahaha I still like how you contradicted yourself. First you complained of women being treated like shit:


...and these are just three examples, violence and assault happen to women all over the world every day, for no other reason than having a vagina, Feminism is about uplifting women to stand up against those who don't see us as worth of personhood, for ourselves and for future generations.

Then you go polar opposite and start complaining about how men pampering women is sexist:



When I say man I the systematic patriarchy, which is something WE ALL lose from. The reason why you would, hypothetically, be scrutinized and I would be maybe supported, is because you, a man, is seen as an adult. You're generalized as someone who can "put on his big boy pants" and take the beating. I would be seen as a child throwing insults at "someone who knows better". Being dis-empowered like that is NOT a privilege, it's insulting to my and my fellow women's intellect and strength.


You're the same retard who would complain when a man is chivalrous enough to hold the door open for you because "he doesn't take you seriously as an independent woman".... and if he didn't hold the door open for you would bitch about how he's a inconsiderate jerk who doesn't respect your femininity. I just can't argue with psychotic feminists like you. You just like to disagree with everything.

[robar]

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[RandoBloom]

http://thedaleygator.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/bcn6zs4iiaaw-kj_zpsa36ed12c.jpg?w=585&h=438

[Graham]

Old Feminism is basically equality.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/%22The_Great_Procession_and_Women's_Demonstration% 22,_1909_on_Princes_Street,_Edinburgh.jpg