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Kazimiera
11-01-2014, 11:32 PM
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blogen
11-02-2014, 12:23 AM
Hungarian/German architecture.

Castle in Bajmóc/Bojnice:

Hungarian aristocrats built and possessed the castle since the 1242. The present form was the work of Hubert József architect from Budapest. The procurer was graf Pálffy János, Hungarian aristocrat.

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Kék templom/Modrý kostolík in Pozsony/Pressburg:

One of the best example of the Hungarian art nouveau. The architect was Lechner Ödön and the procurer was graf Apponyi Albert Hungarian Minister of Religion and Education

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10483987_336003369889551_3961836265740747271_n.jpg ?oh=5b880c7d7c40e2b8cff52a5a51ce019d&oe=54F56B3F


Royal castle in Pozsony/Pressburg:

This was one of the most important Hungarian royal castle in the Hungarian border. This fortification was basically the western gate of Hungary, the western Belgrad for the kingdom. And Pozsony was the Hungarian capital after fall of Buda on the time of the Hungarian-Ottoman wars. The present form is the product of the Czechoslovakian restauration project after the second world war. The Slovakian population was insignificant before the first world war.

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10593211_336003546556200_6651602679175147997_n.jpg ?oh=0f79b47620df3880ef6a92ac9602ff4e&oe=54DB1BBD


Bártfa/Bartfeld:

Small former German (Saxon) city in the Eastern highland. The city's German and Hungarian majority was chased away in the course of the ethnic cleansing after the two world war:

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Saint Elisabeth church - Kassa/Kaschau:

One of the former rich German-Hungarian royal cities. The city played an important role in the Hungarian history and this city was the center of North-Eastern Hungary and controlled the trade with Poland. The Saint Elisabeth church's constructors worked on the Saint Michael church of Kolozsvár too. The city's Hungarian majority was partially chased away in the course of the ethnic cleansing after the two world war. The Slovakian population was insignificant before the first world war.

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etc.

Veneda
11-02-2014, 12:51 AM
Hungarian/German architecture.

Castle in Bajmóc/Bojnice:

Hungarian aristocrats built and possessed the castle since the 1242. The present form was the work of Hubert József architect from Budapest. The procurer was graf Pálffy János, Hungarian aristocrat.

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10574344_336003306556224_4470799255305805355_n.jpg ?oh=dcbdd07e00f2306b9177006f415a98db&oe=54E79127

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Kék templom/Modrý kostolík in Pozsony/Pressburg:

One of the best example of the Hungarian art nouveau. The architect was Lechner Ödön and the procurer was graf Apponyi Albert Hungarian Minister of Religion and Education

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10483987_336003369889551_3961836265740747271_n.jpg ?oh=5b880c7d7c40e2b8cff52a5a51ce019d&oe=54F56B3F


Royal castle in Pozsony/Pressburg:

This was one of the most important Hungarian royal castle in the Hungarian border. This fortification was basically the western gate of Hungary, the western Belgrad for the kingdom. And Pozsony was the Hungarian capital after fall of Buda on the time of the Hungarian-Ottoman wars. The present form is the product of the Czechoslovakian restauration project after the second world war. The Slovakian population was insignificant before the first world war.

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10593211_336003546556200_6651602679175147997_n.jpg ?oh=0f79b47620df3880ef6a92ac9602ff4e&oe=54DB1BBD


Bártfa/Bartfeld:

Small former German (Saxon) city in the Eastern highland. The city's German and Hungarian majority was chased away in the course of the ethnic cleansing after the two world war:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10403032_336003899889498_4859636021052363050_n.jpg ?oh=447148e7388aa2909db1ec9d4ec4aaea&oe=54F665A6&__gda__=1424314415_09e2ab67cf42f2744ad7fd6795ad53e c


Saint Elisabeth church - Kassa/Kaschau:

One of the former rich German-Hungarian royal cities. The city played an important role in the Hungarian history and this city was the center of North-Eastern Hungary and controlled the trade with Poland. The Saint Elisabeth church's constructors worked on the Saint Michael church of Kolozsvár too. The city's Hungarian majority was partially chased away in the course of the ethnic cleansing after the two world war. The Slovakian population was insignificant before the first world war.

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p600x600/16311_336003809889507_260018853108530091_n.jpg?oh= a65fcb1cff3f9abd546bcff88236defa&oe=54AE2A08

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etc.

Yes, I fully disagree it is Slovakian architecture, these buildings are only on the territory of today's Slovakia now. All palaces, castles and manors in modern territory of Slovakia were build by Hungarian aristocrats/nobleman (some were Polish). Slovaks lived in huts at the time when these palaces and castles were build. No politics, just history.

FeederOfRavens
11-02-2014, 12:54 AM
Hungarian/German architecture.

Castle in Bajmóc/Bojnice:

Hungarian aristocrats built and possessed the castle since the 1242. The present form was the work of Hubert József architect from Budapest. The procurer was graf Pálffy János, Hungarian aristocrat.

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10574344_336003306556224_4470799255305805355_n.jpg ?oh=dcbdd07e00f2306b9177006f415a98db&oe=54E79127

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10603656_336003246556230_4815042353679647313_n.jpg ?oh=e9bf5f57edf4947ce80c8fcd43b26d65&oe=54E90FB4


Kék templom/Modrý kostolík in Pozsony/Pressburg:

One of the best example of the Hungarian art nouveau. The architect was Lechner Ödön and the procurer was graf Apponyi Albert Hungarian Minister of Religion and Education

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10483987_336003369889551_3961836265740747271_n.jpg ?oh=5b880c7d7c40e2b8cff52a5a51ce019d&oe=54F56B3F


Royal castle in Pozsony/Pressburg:

This was one of the most important Hungarian royal castle in the Hungarian border. This fortification was basically the western gate of Hungary, the western Belgrad for the kingdom. And Pozsony was the Hungarian capital after fall of Buda on the time of the Hungarian-Ottoman wars. The present form is the product of the Czechoslovakian restauration project after the second world war. The Slovakian population was insignificant before the first world war.

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10593211_336003546556200_6651602679175147997_n.jpg ?oh=0f79b47620df3880ef6a92ac9602ff4e&oe=54DB1BBD


Bártfa/Bartfeld:

Small former German (Saxon) city in the Eastern highland. The city's German and Hungarian majority was chased away in the course of the ethnic cleansing after the two world war:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10403032_336003899889498_4859636021052363050_n.jpg ?oh=447148e7388aa2909db1ec9d4ec4aaea&oe=54F665A6&__gda__=1424314415_09e2ab67cf42f2744ad7fd6795ad53e c


Saint Elisabeth church - Kassa/Kaschau:

One of the former rich German-Hungarian royal cities. The city played an important role in the Hungarian history and this city was the center of North-Eastern Hungary and controlled the trade with Poland. The Saint Elisabeth church's constructors worked on the Saint Michael church of Kolozsvár too. The city's Hungarian majority was partially chased away in the course of the ethnic cleansing after the two world war. The Slovakian population was insignificant before the first world war.

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p600x600/16311_336003809889507_260018853108530091_n.jpg?oh= a65fcb1cff3f9abd546bcff88236defa&oe=54AE2A08

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10577087_336004226556132_6149862674956342584_n.jpg ?oh=7ccf492687201961e9b50718867961c2&oe=54E698AC&__gda__=1420543013_2529716954484dcd8fad8e6f1e2ac0d 9

etc.

Don't start shit here Maygar.

Kazimiera
11-02-2014, 12:58 AM
Shall I kill off this thread since everyone seems to agree that this is not Slovak architecture?

Veneda
11-02-2014, 01:05 AM
Don't start shit here Maygar.

These are buildings made by Hungarians. Why do you disagree?

Veneda
11-02-2014, 01:07 AM
Shall I kill off this thread since everyone seems to agree that this is not Slovak architecture?

Just rename it to "Architecture in Slovakia", it will be ok :)

FeederOfRavens
11-02-2014, 01:07 AM
These are buildings made by Hungarians. Why do you disagree?

Hungarians are Maygarized Slovaks.

Veneda
11-02-2014, 01:08 AM
Hungarians are Maygarized Slovaks.

Hungarians are Maygarized Polacks :D

j/k

blogen
11-02-2014, 01:09 AM
Yes, I fully disagree it is Slovakian architecture, these buildings are only on the territory of today's Slovakia now. All palaces, castles and manors in modern territory of Slovakia were build by Hungarian aristocrats/nobleman (some were Polish). Slovaks lived in huts at the time when these palaces and castles were build. No politics, just history.

Not all, there was ethnic Slovakian noblemans too. But basically all of the important castle, church or other building was Hungarian or German. Or more punctually this was little more complex, since the Slovakian rural churches built in the gothic, renaissance, baroque etc. style of the Hungarian architecture (sometimes with some Bohemian, Polish, etc. influence near the borders), so the difference between the Slovakian, Hungarian and German terms sometimes is the ethnic background of the local community only.

blogen
11-02-2014, 01:12 AM
Don't start shit here Maygar.

This is the fact about the architecture of Upper Hungary. The Slovak architecture was rural architecture, small churchers, peasant houses, etc. The urban architecture was mostly German, but there were a strong ethnic Hungarian bourgeois layer too in this cities and the noblemes here predominantly ethnic Hungarians (all of the aristocrats). Because of this the "Slovakian architecture" is rural architectura before the 20th century.

Veneda
11-02-2014, 01:14 AM
Not all, there was ethnic Slovakian noblemans too. But basically all of the important castle, church or other building was Hungarian or German. Or more punctually this was little more complex, since the Slovakian rural churches built in the gothic, renaissance, baroque etc. style of the Hungarian architecture (sometimes with some Bohemian, Polish, etc. influence near the borders), so the difference between the Slovakian, Hungarian and German terms sometimes is the ethnic background of the local community only.

How many of them? In percents. I am just curious.

Veneda
11-02-2014, 01:20 AM
This is the fact about the architecture of Upper Hungary. The Slovak architecture was rural architecture, small churchers, peasant houses, etc. The urban architecture was mostly German, but there were a strong ethnic Hungarian bourgeois layer too in this cities and the noblemes here predominantly ethnic Hungarians (all of the aristocrats). Because of this the "Slovakian architecture" is rural architectura before the 20th century.

Painted village houses. They kept their Slavic heritage.

blogen
11-02-2014, 01:27 AM
Shall I kill off this thread since everyone seems to agree that this is not Slovak architecture?

In the pictures. Yes, this is not Slovakian, but German and Hungarian. As the Hagia Sophia is not Turkic architecture. The real Slovakian architecture was not monumental/impressive because of the social background of the Slovakian developers. For example a Slovakian romance church from Sedmerovec:

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/33532134.jpg

Or Slovakian rural houses:

http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/5741686.jpg

Veneda
11-02-2014, 01:33 AM
Kazimiera, Architecture 'found' in Slovakia sounds artifical. 'Architecture in Slavakia' sounds neutral to me :)

blogen
11-02-2014, 01:34 AM
How many of them? In percents. I am just curious.

For example the number of the ethnic Slovakian nobility was 30 thousand and this was ~20% of the total Upper Hungarian nobility in 1847. Their majority was poor as a peasant. But this was usual in Hungary, since the Hungarian nobility was a very huge order.

Veneda
11-02-2014, 01:40 AM
For example the number of the ethnic Slovakian nobility was 30 thousand and this was ~20% of the total Upper Hungarian nobility in 1847. Their majority was poor as a peasant. But this was usual in Hungary, since the Hungarian nobility was a very huge order.

Thanks for info. If the majority of them were poor as peasants, they were not in position to build castles and palaces and they lived in the huts. Am I right?

blogen
11-02-2014, 08:03 AM
Thanks for info. If the majority of them were poor as peasants, they were not in position to build castles and palaces and they lived in the huts. Am I right?

Yes, a typical house type of the petite noblesse was a bigger peasant house:

http://mek.oszk.hu/02100/02115/html/img/2-300b.jpg

Windischer
11-16-2014, 12:56 AM
Before 1918, Slovak = Hungarian.


Architecture found in Slovakia

I have found some architecture, too. Saw it with my own eyes, no kidding ;)

revealman
12-28-2014, 12:02 PM
Hungarians are Maygarized Slovaks.
correct mate! majority of hungarians have haplogroup R1a which is slavic! those magyars who invaded slovakia(great moravia) in the 10th century make up the minority of their population, the rest is slavs who adopted hungarian language..

original magyars were a mixture of ugrofinnic haplogroup I and N

revealman
12-28-2014, 12:07 PM
Hungarian/German architecture.

Castle in Bajmóc/Bojnice:

Hungarian aristocrats built and possessed the castle since the 1242. The present form was the work of Hubert József architect from Budapest. The procurer was graf Pálffy János, Hungarian aristocrat.

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10574344_336003306556224_4470799255305805355_n.jpg ?oh=dcbdd07e00f2306b9177006f415a98db&oe=54E79127

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10603656_336003246556230_4815042353679647313_n.jpg ?oh=e9bf5f57edf4947ce80c8fcd43b26d65&oe=54E90FB4


Kék templom/Modrý kostolík in Pozsony/Pressburg:

One of the best example of the Hungarian art nouveau. The architect was Lechner Ödön and the procurer was graf Apponyi Albert Hungarian Minister of Religion and Education

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10483987_336003369889551_3961836265740747271_n.jpg ?oh=5b880c7d7c40e2b8cff52a5a51ce019d&oe=54F56B3F


Royal castle in Pozsony/Pressburg:

This was one of the most important Hungarian royal castle in the Hungarian border. This fortification was basically the western gate of Hungary, the western Belgrad for the kingdom. And Pozsony was the Hungarian capital after fall of Buda on the time of the Hungarian-Ottoman wars. The present form is the product of the Czechoslovakian restauration project after the second world war. The Slovakian population was insignificant before the first world war.

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10593211_336003546556200_6651602679175147997_n.jpg ?oh=0f79b47620df3880ef6a92ac9602ff4e&oe=54DB1BBD


Bártfa/Bartfeld:

Small former German (Saxon) city in the Eastern highland. The city's German and Hungarian majority was chased away in the course of the ethnic cleansing after the two world war:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10403032_336003899889498_4859636021052363050_n.jpg ?oh=447148e7388aa2909db1ec9d4ec4aaea&oe=54F665A6&__gda__=1424314415_09e2ab67cf42f2744ad7fd6795ad53e c


Saint Elisabeth church - Kassa/Kaschau:

One of the former rich German-Hungarian royal cities. The city played an important role in the Hungarian history and this city was the center of North-Eastern Hungary and controlled the trade with Poland. The Saint Elisabeth church's constructors worked on the Saint Michael church of Kolozsvár too. The city's Hungarian majority was partially chased away in the course of the ethnic cleansing after the two world war. The Slovakian population was insignificant before the first world war.

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p600x600/16311_336003809889507_260018853108530091_n.jpg?oh= a65fcb1cff3f9abd546bcff88236defa&oe=54AE2A08

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10577087_336004226556132_6149862674956342584_n.jpg ?oh=7ccf492687201961e9b50718867961c2&oe=54E698AC&__gda__=1420543013_2529716954484dcd8fad8e6f1e2ac0d 9

etc.


i am sorry for you mate, but the reality is before you magyars arrived in 10th century we already had great moravian kingdom, nitra principality and pannonian principality! you magyars had not even have a word for window because you did not know what a window is before you settled in slovak land.. you have hundreds of slovakian loanwords (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Hungarian_terms_derived_from_Slavic_langu ages) in your language.. you learned oblok(window) from us because your architecture was limited to a yurta..

budin and pest are slavic, balaton is slavic, the hungarian folklore is slavic(kroj)

hungarian architecture before arrival in great moravia (slovakia)
http://s27.postimg.org/9ck47yu2r/yurta.jpg

for the buildings quoted above i agree with you(except bratislava castle)! as it goes for the architecture of the monarchy era you are right mate, most was built by austrian architects, budapest also was built by german, austrian and british architects

revealman
12-28-2014, 12:28 PM
slovak architecture before austro-hungarian is here:

slovak(we are talking about the tribe of slovaks not the republic) slovak castle from great moravian era
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devín_Castle
http://www.panoramio.com/user/6827141/tags/hrad%20Devín

typical village architecture:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Cicmany-radenv_dom2.jpg
http://www.ludovaarchitektura.sk/

dusan jurkovic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dušan_Jurkovič

FeederOfRavens
12-28-2014, 11:06 PM
correct mate! majority of hungarians have haplogroup R1a which is slavic! those magyars who invaded slovakia(great moravia) in the 10th century make up the minority of their population, the rest is slavs who adopted hungarian language..

original magyars were a mixture of ugrofinnic haplogroup I and N

According to Blogen Hungarians are a special "Europo-Mongoloid" race even though they are largely indistinguishable from their neighbours both physically and genetically. But he keeps believing his turan fantasies.

blogen
12-28-2014, 11:40 PM
According to Blogen Hungarians are a special "Europo-Mongoloid" race even though they are largely indistinguishable from their neighbours both physically and genetically. But he keeps believing his turan fantasies.

Do you have problem with the reading? According to the Hungarian Academy of Science and every Hungarian University and scientific workshop, the Hungarians majority are Europo-Mongoloids and the Hungarians are basically differ from their neighbours, because of the different racial composition of the Hungarians. Since I do not have opinion in this question, I cited only the scientific sources.

blogen
12-28-2014, 11:47 PM
slovak architecture before austro-hungarian is here:

slovak(we are talking about the tribe of slovaks not the republic) slovak castle from great moravian era
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devín_Castle

The whole present form is the ruins of the Hungarian castle.


typical village architecture:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Cicmany-radenv_dom2.jpg
http://www.ludovaarchitektura.sk/

These are 18-19th century Slovak buildings. The Hungarians arrived in the 10th century. :confused2:


dusan jurkovic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dušan_Jurkovič

Yep, finally a Slovak architect, the master of the slovakian art nouveau architecture.

revealman
12-29-2014, 02:23 AM
The whole present form is the ruins of the Hungarian castle.



These are 18-19th century Slovak buildings. The Hungarians arrived in the 10th century. :confused2:



Yep, finally a Slovak architect, the master of the slovakian art nouveau architecture.
how could hungarian architects build devin castle when hungarians did not even know what is a window whe they arrived in great moravia(slovakia)?.. remember oblok is a slovak word, because yurtas do not have a window, so it is clear the magyars must have learned to build from somebody and guess what, the slovaks already had nitra castle, bratislava castle, pannonian castle before the magyars arrived so you learned building castles from us..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Moravia
http://www.koloseo.info/prezentacia/
by the way slovak king rastislav built devin in 864, hungarians settled on the castle in 15th century!

we already built castles in great moravia while magyars were living in tents(yurtas) so what is your point mate?!
http://www.sps-ul.cz/lib/exe/fetch.php/galerie_architektury:ceska_architektura:01_-_velka_morava.jpg?w=422&h=600
http://skrzmoravo.blogspot.co.at/2011/10/po-stopach-velke-moravy.html

if we talk about churches built in monarchy then most of the gothic stuff was built by german architects (gothic is not a magyar style)

FeederOfRavens
12-29-2014, 02:30 AM
Do you have problem with the reading? According to the Hungarian Academy of Science and every Hungarian University and scientific workshop, the Hungarians majority are Europo-Mongoloids and the Hungarians are basically differ from their neighbours, because of the different racial composition of the Hungarians. Since I do not have opinion in this question, I cited only the scientific sources.

Then Hungarian "Anthropologists" have forfeited all scientific legitimacy after coming to these silly conclusions. Anyways with the advent of Genetic Science we can easily debunk politically motivated and bias "Anthropologists" like these. This is not to say Genetics are always truthful & cannot be manipulated or that Anthropology is always bullshit(it frequently has better explanations and comes to more definitive and sensical conclusions than Genetics do) but when it comes to something simple as proving that neighbours(Like Hungarians, Romanians and Slavs) are closer to each other Genetically and Physically(Not to Pamirids from Central Asia)then Genetics can be trusted over a mythological classification.(Like the so called Europo-Mongoloids)

revealman
12-29-2014, 02:53 AM
Then Hungarian "Anthropologists" have forfeited all scientific legitimacy after coming to these silly conclusions. Anyways with the advent of Genetic Science we can easily debunk politically motivated and bias "Anthropologists" like these. This is not to say Genetics are always truthful & not able to be manipulated but when it comes to something simple as proving that neighbours(Like Hungarians, Romanians and Slavs) are closer to each other Genetically and Physically(Not to Pamirids from Central Asia) Genetics can be trusted.
very well written mate!

but we must get used to it lot of people claim to be founders of foreign cultures to feel better about themsleves, some people claim pharaohs were blonde anglosaxons, some turanians claim they come from atlantis and sumeria, russians claim they were etruscans et cetera... humans invent anything to please their ego.. :D fake it if you didnt make it.. ;)

FeederOfRavens
12-29-2014, 03:05 AM
very well written mate!

but we must get used to it lot of people claim to be founders of foreign cultures to feel better about themsleves, some people claim pharaohs were blonde anglosaxons, some turanians claim they come from atlantis and sumeria, russians claim they were etruscans et cetera... humans invent anything to please their ego.. :D fake it if you didnt make it.. ;)

Hungarians seem to be very prone to doing this. For Example:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBir90Rbfok

There is tons of videos and even whole channels on Youtube dedicated to creating some Hungarian History mythology.

I don't know why Magyars try to stretch and glorify their history back tens of thousands of years or claim old, established civilizations(Like Sumerians) as Hungarian. It's not like Hungarian History is unimpressive(quite the contrary actually) yet they still seem to have something to prove.

Leto
12-29-2014, 03:07 AM
russians claim they were etruscans
I must say this opinion is very marginal and few would take it seriously.

revealman
12-29-2014, 03:13 AM
I must say this opinion is very marginal and few would take it seriously.
some claim the word etruscan is derived from et RUS :D




Hungarians seem to be very prone to doing this. For Example:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBir90Rbfok

There is tons of videos and even whole channels on Youtube dedicated to creating some Hungarian History mythology.

I don't know why Magyars try to stretch and glorify their history back tens of thousands of years or claim old, established civilizations(Like Sumerians) as Hungarian. It's not like Hungarian History is unimpressive(quite the contrary actually) yet they still seem to have something to prove.
this one is really funny..

yes mate, i guess its their nomadic blood which is responsible for their need to prove how impressive they are.. you know different folks = different mentality, a nomad has other mentality as an agriculturalist.. so the magyars did not conquer anybody for a long time i think hence comes the need to conquer virtually(it must be in their blood they are not mentaly adapted to a sedentary agricultural lifestyle yet)

revealman
12-29-2014, 04:24 AM
one of the highest hotels in europe (lomnicky stit)

http://s22.postimg.org/4afna829t/lomnicky.jpg
source: http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Europe/Slovakia/East/Presovsky/Vysoke_Tatry/photo1339122.htm

revealman
12-29-2014, 04:30 AM
dusan jurkovic and traditional slovak wooden architecture

http://kultura.sme.sk/c/5303702/dusan-jurkovic-prvy-slovensky-architekt.html
https://bialczynski.wordpress.com/tag/dusan-jurkovic/
http://www.summitpost.org/du-an-jurkovi-s-masterpieces/848583

blogen
12-29-2014, 04:51 AM
Then Hungarian "Anthropologists" have forfeited all scientific legitimacy after coming to these silly conclusions. Anyways with the advent of Genetic Science we can easily debunk politically motivated and bias "Anthropologists" like these. This is not to say Genetics are always truthful & cannot be manipulated or that Anthropology is always bullshit(it frequently has better explanations and comes to more definitive and sensical conclusions than Genetics do) but when it comes to something simple as proving that neighbours(Like Hungarians, Romanians and Slavs) are closer to each other Genetically and Physically(Not to Pamirids from Central Asia) Genetics can be trusted over a mythological classification.(Like the so called Europo-Mongoloids)

This is your problem, since postmodern world is full of lunatics as you, who know it better at scientist...

blogen
12-29-2014, 04:54 AM
I do not care the baseless Slovakian nationalist propaganda revealman, since that is too low level as every similar propaganda. The reality was very different from that, especially in the historical cases.


slovaks and hungarians together against chauvinism!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uzvA2-AcXhM/UDNWYAYTgAI/AAAAAAAAAEs/toGxp2Y-wfo/s300/481257_152673994865724_1327095984_n.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MHcmL03Htk

Oh, neonazi scums. But your extreme narratives are more understandable after this.

revealman
12-29-2014, 05:12 AM
i just ignore you from now on because you did not provide a single proof for your unscientific chauvinistic claims.. i dont want to feed your need for self approval based on fake history

dont accuse ravens of being a lunatic, only lunatics are you chauvinisitc magyars who fake history to hide the fact they were nomads before they learned culture from slavs and germans after their arrival to europe in 10th century..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3ZQjwvNkSI

FeederOfRavens
12-29-2014, 05:18 AM
This is your problem, since postmodern world is full of lunatics as you, who know it better at scientist...

Anyone with common sense knows better than these "Scientists". I agree the Post-modern World is full of lunatics but this age allows the common man to challenge bias and nationalist driven "Scientists" and even debunk them. If you don't believe that Scientists often have agendas then you must be the only Lunatic.

blogen
12-29-2014, 05:35 AM
Anyone with common sense

Almost every unscientific thing started with the common sense, because the common sense is nothing more then various mixture of the urban legends, traditional delusions, local tales and other subjective matter.

FeederOfRavens
12-29-2014, 05:38 AM
Almost every unscientific thing started with the common sense, because the common sense is nothing more then various mixture of the urban legends, traditional delusions, local tales and other subjective matter.

The definition of Common Sense must be different in Hungary because I can assure you that in the rest of the World Common Sense is the antithesis of Urban Legends/Myths.

revealman
12-29-2014, 05:40 AM
Almost every unscientific thing started with the common sense, because the common sense is nothing more then various mixture of the urban legends, traditional delusions, local tales and other subjective matter.
myths and legends are exactly what you wishfull thinking chauvinsits operate on, genuine genetics and history tell exactly the opposite of your claims.. carpe diem

blogen
12-29-2014, 05:41 AM
The definition of Common Sense must be different in Hungary because I can assure you that in the rest of the World Common Sense is the antithesis of Urban Legends/Myths.

We talk about the common sense of the common peoples vs. science situation.

FeederOfRavens
12-29-2014, 05:44 AM
We talk about the common sense of the common peoples vs. science situation.

Common sense is hardly Common among the majority of the populace and is the opposite of Folk Tales/Myths. Look up the definition of Common sense. You seem be completely out of touch with reality and lack common sense.

KawaiiKawaii
12-29-2014, 07:58 AM
Common sense is hardly Common among the majority of the populace and is the opposite of Folk Tales/Myths. Look up the definition of Common sense. You seem be completely out of touch with reality and lack common sense.

blogen and the Europo-Mongoloid Hungarians again? :D Just show him this genetic map:
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/08/13/science/figure1a_600.jpg
And this one:
http://blog.23andme.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/novembreblogpostfig.jpg
Anyway, there is no way to reason with him on this issue. Hopefully one day he'll understand...

FeederOfRavens
12-29-2014, 08:00 AM
Anyway, there is no way to reason with him on this issue. Hopefully one day he'll understand...

Maybe.

Antimage
12-29-2014, 08:19 AM
Blogen statistics about 68% euro-mongols in hungary is misleading. 99% euros and 1% mongols are considered euro-mongols in that study

blogen
12-29-2014, 10:01 PM
Blogen statistics about 68% euro-mongols in hungary is misleading. 99% euros and 1% mongols are considered euro-mongols in that study

Do not lie! Here is 121MB from these studies. (http://dfiles.eu/files/s2j1yuar0) Read it before you write stupidities!

Stears
12-30-2014, 09:36 AM
some claim the word etruscan is derived from et RUS :D




this one is really funny..

yes mate, i guess its their nomadic blood which is responsible for their need to prove how impressive they are.. you know different folks = different mentality, a nomad has other mentality as an agriculturalist.. so the magyars did not conquer anybody for a long time i think hence comes the need to conquer virtually(it must be in their blood they are not mentaly adapted to a sedentary agricultural lifestyle yet)

First: Ancestors of Slovaks were nomads. Hungarians were not nomads. Nobody found material proof for that. Slovaks have more eastern (mongoloid) blood (haplogroups) than Hungarians, but this is not surprising, because -unlike the Hungarian population- slavs have always a bit mongoloid people in some percent .

Stears
12-30-2014, 09:37 AM
Do not lie! Here is 121MB from these studies. (http://dfiles.eu/files/s2j1yuar0) Read it before you write stupidities!

Blogen like to lie. He is a minority people from Jassic minority, perhaps he have a mixed neo-cuman backround, so he looks weird in Hungary. That's why he tries to falsify the history.

Stears
12-30-2014, 10:57 AM
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Why did you post Hungarian built castles and churches?

revealman
12-30-2014, 05:19 PM
First: Ancestors of Slovaks were nomads. Hungarians were not nomads. Nobody found material proof for that. Slovaks have more eastern (mongoloid) blood (haplogroups) than Hungarians, but this is not surprising, because -unlike the Hungarian population- slavs have always a bit mongoloid people in some percent .
haha this must be a joke.. you hungarians are magyarized slavs and your original ancestors were siberian nomads mansi khanty lanki and ugrofinnic nomads sami lapps.. we already had great moravia, samos empire, pannonian principality and we occupied budin, pest, balaton, and modern slovakia while you were nomadic looters without a home..

More than just this. Kingdom of Hungary was direct successor of Great Moravia. Teritorial organization including terminology is the same in KoH as it used to be in GM. Magyar name for county "Megye" is from Slovak "Medza", leader of the county in Magyar is "ispán" a that is as well from Slovak "župan" and thus I can continue with Slovak words in Magyar into infinity.

Interesting is also the comparation of development of settlements in different parts of former GM. When Czechs annexed western part of GM wich is now south-east region Morava of Czech republic, they let the settlements of former GM abandoned, and founded new settlements. These new settlement are here till today, cities like Brno or Olomouc. The former GM settlement now we are discovering as archeological sites.

On contrary, the proces in eastern part of GM (including also pannonia) was different. When nomadic Magyars came into the carpathian basin, they did not destroy settlements here, they just infiltrated them. That is basically because Magyars were nomads and simply didnt know how to build a settlement. Thus the old settlements of GM in Slovakia and in Hungary are still present today. Cities like Nitra (Nitrava) or Bratislava (Preslava) in SVK or Veszprém (Bezprín), Budapest (Budín) and Esztergom (Strägom) in Hun.

Magyars tend to claim, that they were the builders of Hungarian towns, that they came into blank area and many more. But seriously, when did they(nomads) learn how to build cities, when they spent 100 years (since their arrival till foundation of KoH) by looting, pillaging and slaughterring of half of Europe? Magyars only over time learned how to lead a settled life, majority of them were nomadic up to 13th ct. And Magyar chauvinists know it. They also know very well, that everything important for settled life they learned from us. Just look at Magyar vocabulary related to agriculture, housing, cuisine and you will find that so called Magyar expressions are nothing more just deformed Slovak words. This is the reason, why Magyars hate us - Slovaks most in whole world. Because they ceated a wonderfull story about glorious victors ("vitéz" in Magyar, wich is another Slovak word "výťaz"), that stood down from horseback and started to build stone castles and cathedrals. And when they are confrontated with reality, their unconscious can not accept it. So if there is any evidence, that can undermine their version of history, they must destroy it. Therefore Magyarisation, therefore thousands Magyar coments about nonexistent Slovaks and their history on every video, that has something to do with us on youtube, therefore hatefull replies on Slovaks in every forum you can find.

As Slovak writer Jerguš Ferko said, "It is a rebellion of cultural copy, against its original and effort to replace it".

And I also can mention here genetics, by wich you can see how close are present Magyars and Slovaks to each other. Both are very close to Czech, Poles or Ukrainians and therefore Slavic. That just show enormous nuber of Slovaks, that have been assimilated into Magyars

http://www.slavorum.org/forum/discus...ality-of-nitra

revealman
12-30-2014, 05:22 PM
Why did you post Hungarian built castles and churches?
hungarian built? the hungarians learned architecture from slavs and germans! you lived in yurtas and borrowed our word for window ablak(oblok) because you did not have a word for window yet because yurtas have no windows.. you stole our words, customs, folklore and now you have the arrogance to say it is all your accomplishments... you are really pathetic

Stears
12-30-2014, 06:14 PM
hungarian built? the hungarians learned architecture from slavs and germans! you lived in yurtas and borrowed our word for window ablak(oblok) because you did not have a word for window yet because yurtas have no windows.. you stole our words, customs, folklore and now you have the arrogance to say it is all your accomplishments... you are really pathetic Are you kidding? Hungarians did not learn architecture from slavs, but from french italians and germans. There are no proof for the yurtas. As far as I know Slavs lived in mud hovels, like african tribes nowadays. (very prehistoric lifestyle)

Stears
12-30-2014, 06:17 PM
haha this must be a joke.. you hungarians are magyarized slavs and your original ancestors were siberian nomads mansi khanty lanki and ugrofinnic nomads sami lapps.. we already had great moravia, samos empire, pannonian principality and we occupied budin, pest, balaton, and modern slovakia while you were nomadic looters without a home.. More than just this. Kingdom of Hungary was direct successor of Great Moravia. Teritorial organization including terminology is the same in KoH as it used to be in GM. Magyar name for county "Megye" is from Slovak "Medza", leader of the county in Magyar is "ispán" a that is as well from Slovak "župan" and thus I can continue with Slovak words in Magyar into infinity. Interesting is also the comparation of development of settlements in different parts of former GM. When Czechs annexed western part of GM wich is now south-east region Morava of Czech republic, they let the settlements of former GM abandoned, and founded new settlements. These new settlement are here till today, cities like Brno or Olomouc. The former GM settlement now we are discovering as archeological sites. On contrary, the proces in eastern part of GM (including also pannonia) was different. When nomadic Magyars came into the carpathian basin, they did not destroy settlements here, they just infiltrated them. That is basically because Magyars were nomads and simply didnt know how to build a settlement. Thus the old settlements of GM in Slovakia and in Hungary are still present today. Cities like Nitra (Nitrava) or Bratislava (Preslava) in SVK or Veszprém (Bezprín), Budapest (Budín) and Esztergom (Strägom) in Hun. Magyars tend to claim, that they were the builders of Hungarian towns, that they came into blank area and many more. But seriously, when did they(nomads) learn how to build cities, when they spent 100 years (since their arrival till foundation of KoH) by looting, pillaging and slaughterring of half of Europe? Magyars only over time learned how to lead a settled life, majority of them were nomadic up to 13th ct. And Magyar chauvinists know it. They also know very well, that everything important for settled life they learned from us. Just look at Magyar vocabulary related to agriculture, housing, cuisine and you will find that so called Magyar expressions are nothing more just deformed Slovak words. This is the reason, why Magyars hate us - Slovaks most in whole world. Because they ceated a wonderfull story about glorious victors ("vitéz" in Magyar, wich is another Slovak word "výťaz"), that stood down from horseback and started to build stone castles and cathedrals. And when they are confrontated with reality, their unconscious can not accept it. So if there is any evidence, that can undermine their version of history, they must destroy it. Therefore Magyarisation, therefore thousands Magyar coments about nonexistent Slovaks and their history on every video, that has something to do with us on youtube, therefore hatefull replies on Slovaks in every forum you can find. As Slovak writer Jerguš Ferko said, "It is a rebellion of cultural copy, against its original and effort to replace it". And I also can mention here genetics, by wich you can see how close are present Magyars and Slovaks to each other. Both are very close to Czech, Poles or Ukrainians and therefore Slavic. That just show enormous nuber of Slovaks, that have been assimilated into Magyars http://www.slavorum.org/forum/discus...ality-of-nitra Slovak is one of the youngest ethnonym in Europe, the slovak term was born only in the early modern era. Slovaks were early modern mixture of immigrants: Czech hussites in the west, Polish immigrants from the north, Local Hungarians, German settlers and rusyn people from the east. Your material culture were always primitive, and poor. You have no high culture, just primitive peasant folklore culture. (you were hill-billy rural mountain people) Most of slovaks were shepherds until the 1600s. "by looting, pillaging and slaughterring of half of Europe?" Like the vikings an frankish tribes germanic tribes etc... There are no slovak words in Hungarian language. All slavic loanwords came from eastern slavic languages, during the migration, and they are not Central-European slavic origin.

Stears
12-30-2014, 06:23 PM
This is your slovak architecture :

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20070831/Old-Slovak-Village-435330.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPlLxrYhqva9eTskfNZGpjGi_TD9aCY bCyju-ANjCovCtInhIG4A

Primitive like your culture. It is not more complex like a siberian village church in russia :))))))))))))

Stears
12-30-2014, 08:25 PM
barbarian mountain shepherds, calm down!

Stears
12-30-2014, 08:26 PM
Medieval Hungarian Culture (MUSIC, palaces churches, paintings, sculpture and fine-arts)

WATCH IT IN FULL HD!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6aZDB4JlBU

FeederOfRavens
12-30-2014, 08:27 PM
Medieval Hungarian Culture (MUSIC, palaces churches, paintings, sculpture and fine-arts)

Fine examples of primitive, barbarian, Hungarian steppe culture. You are a primitive Hun

Stears
12-30-2014, 08:29 PM
Fine examples of primitive, barbarian, Hungarian steppe culture. You are a primitive Hun The rich germanic tribe leaders lived in wooden-hovels, but the average germanic people lived in mud holes (like african tribesmen)..

Stears
12-30-2014, 08:33 PM
Fine examples of primitive, barbarian, Hungarian steppe culture. You are a primitive Hun What about your mongoloid ancestors? Northern Germanic people have mongoloid ancestors, as the genetics proved. Hungarians are genetically more european than most slavic speaking people (who contain more Asian mongoloid Y and mt.DNA haplogroup markers), but all Northern Germanic nations (incl. Northern Germany too) have higher ratio of Mongolid haplogroup markers . See the ratio of Central Asian haplogroup „Q” and the other mongoloid haplogroup marker „N” (aka. N1C1) markers in the largest genetic CHART of European nations: http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

FeederOfRavens
12-30-2014, 08:33 PM
Can you prove your fantasy? You ancestors were mountain nomadic shepherds who lived in mug-hovels (like african tribesmen).

You and all Hungarians are just steppe Mongol barbarians. You are Eastern European, Semi-Asians who never developed any architecture or cities or culture. Primitives.

Stears
12-30-2014, 08:34 PM
Do not forget the primitive poor and backward Norway and Sweden before the 20th century. (with russian level infrastructure) You 0 contribution is science and technology, and arts.

FeederOfRavens
12-30-2014, 08:34 PM
What about your mongoloid ancestors? Northern Germanic people have mongoloid ancestors, as the genetics proved. Hungarians are genetically more european than most slavic speaking people (who contain more Asian mongoloid Y and mt.DNA haplogroup markers), but all Northern Germanic nations (incl. Northern Germany too) have higher ratio of Mongolid haplogroup markers . See the ratio of Central Asian haplogroup „Q” and the other mongoloid haplogroup marker „N” (aka. N1C1) markers in the largest genetic CHART of European nations: http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

No, N1c1 is European. Hungarians are all Asian and even speak Asian tribal language.

FeederOfRavens
12-30-2014, 08:35 PM
Do not forget the primitive poor and backward Norway and Sweden before the 20th century. (with russian level infrastructure) You 0 contribution is science and technology, and arts.

You are describing Hungary

Stears
12-30-2014, 08:36 PM
You and all Hungarians are just steppe Mongol barbarians. You are Eastern European, Semi-Asians who never developed any architecture or cities or culture. Primitives. As far as I know, Hungarians have similar level of mongoloid markers like aboriginak English and French population. However Northern Germanic people have serious mongoloid genetic inflection. (It is noticeable on the look of many Northern Germanic people) DEAL with your less European culture and genetic ancestry.

FeederOfRavens
12-30-2014, 08:38 PM
As far as I know, Hungarians have similar level of mongoloid markers like aboriginak English and French population. However Northern Germanic people have serious mongoloid genetic inflection. (It is noticeable on the look of many Northern Germanic people) DEAL with your less European culture and genetic ancestry.

No, Hungarians all look like Swarthy Balkaners. When I visited Budapest(A primitive, filthy city) I was surprised on how short, swarthy and Asian looking Hungarians were. Hungarians have visible Hun and Balkan influence.

FeederOfRavens
12-30-2014, 08:41 PM
It's Ok Stears Mongols are a proud, strong people with a long history.

Stears
12-30-2014, 08:51 PM
No, Hungarians all look like Swarthy Balkaners. When I visited Budapest(A primitive, filthy city) I was surprised on how short, swarthy and Asian looking Hungarians were. Hungarians have visible Hun and Balkan influence. You have never been in Hungary. Genetically Mongoloid inflected northern germanic scum. Deal with the reality, you have primitive architecture literature sculpture music etc... and lower level of scientific contribution. You can hide your genes, you can only inherit from your ancestors, which were mpartially mongoloid. http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

Stears
12-30-2014, 08:52 PM
It's Ok Stears Mongols are a proud, strong people with a long history. Not mongols, mongoloid. Deal with it. http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

FeederOfRavens
12-30-2014, 08:54 PM
Not mongols, mongoloid. Deal with it. http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

According to this Hungarians are 65% African and Mongoloid

FeederOfRavens
12-30-2014, 08:54 PM
You have never been in Hungary. Genetically Mongoloid inflected northern germanic scum. Deal with the reality, you have primitive architecture literature sculpture music etc... and lower level of scientific contribution. You can hide your genes, you can only inherit from your ancestors, which were mpartially mongoloid. http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

You are describing Hungary again.

Stears
12-30-2014, 08:55 PM
According to this Hungarians are 65% African and Mongoloid Hahahaha, read it again. Have you ever learn mathematics?

FeederOfRavens
12-30-2014, 08:57 PM
Hahahaha, read it again. Have you ever learn mathematics?

Yes it says Hungarians are primitive East europeans who have never achieved any civilization and is mostly Asian, Jewish and African by Genetics.

Stears
12-30-2014, 08:59 PM
Yes it says Hungarians are primitive East europeans who have never achieved any civilization and is mostly Asian, Jewish and African by Genetics. So you are unable to add numbers. Because you are partially mongoloid like norhern germanic people. Your contribution in culture and science and technology is 0. Here start the science: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary

FeederOfRavens
12-30-2014, 09:02 PM
So you are unable to add numbers. Because you are partially mongoloid like norhern germanic people. Your contribution in culture and science and technology is 0. Here start the science: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary

Hey, Asians are great at math. Don't be racist

revealman
12-31-2014, 08:29 AM
This is your slovak architecture :

http://www.featurepics.com/FI/Thumb300/20070831/Old-Slovak-Village-435330.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSPlLxrYhqva9eTskfNZGpjGi_TD9aCY bCyju-ANjCovCtInhIG4A

Primitive like your culture. It is not more complex like a siberian village church in russia :))))))))))))
you lived in yurtas thus you borrowed the slovak word for window oblok(ablak) this is a fact! i can prove it!
show me one proof of a hungarian settlement before you came into great moravia 10th century! you had not even a word for window! you adopted words for all things you did not know before from us, you have hundreds of slovak words in your vocabulary.. you are a liar and chauvinist because you did not have a home before you looted our great moravian kingdom in the 10th century! show me one archeological proof of magyar culture before you learned culture from slavs!!

i wait...

magyars didnt accomplish anything, germans and slavs built hunagrian kingdom, even those who call themselves magyars today are 80% slavic and germanic dna R1a and R1b so learn real history fool..

revealman
12-31-2014, 08:35 AM
hear is your real history you liars! you did not know what is a window when we slovaks already built castles during great moravia samos kingdom, nitra principality and pannonian principality!!! thus you borrowed the word ablak(oblok) and hundreds more agricultural and other words because you were nomads .. you have low self esteem because deep down you know you were homeless nomads without a higher culture.. http://www.woodlandyurts.co.uk/Yurt_Facts/YurtFacts.html

http://kurultaj.hu/wp-content/uploads/525563_293128634147585_1913917569_n1-560x420.jpg


The southernmost range of the bentwood yurt, where it is still in common use by nomadic peoples, covers Iran , Iraq , Northern Afghanistan and Pakistan . To the west of Mongolia , in Kazakstan , Kyrgyzstan , Uzbekistan , Tajikistan and North-Eastern China, a region as a whole formerly known as Turkestan , the yurt is the traditional and still popular nomadic dwelling. The national flag of the newly independent Kyrgyzstan depicts a red yurt-crown at its centre.

During the middle-ages the Magyars of Hungary dwelt in yurts, where they are still in occasional use today.

you want to falsify history to hide the fact you were savages..
slovaks were much more advanced then you savages you adopted almost everything from us, folklore, vocabulary, house building etc.

http://numod.hotglue.me/?Yurts/


In recent times the yurt has been rediscovered in the west. The furthest west, the yurt had previously reached was hungary where the Magyar nomads predominantly discontinued its use as they became a westernized feudal society.

revealman
12-31-2014, 08:41 AM
here you can read real slavic history we were light years ahead of you magyar nomads! http://berberian11.tripod.com/dragova_orbini.htm

slovaks had already culture and history before you nomads arrived in the 10th century...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/55/Great_Moravia-eng.png

principality of nitra was our first state!!!(yes we had a state when you were living as looters and savages in yurtas)

revealman
12-31-2014, 09:26 AM
So you are unable to add numbers. Because you are partially mongoloid like norhern germanic people. Your contribution in culture and science and technology is 0. Here start the science: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_technology_in_Hungary
you tell a nordic guy and a slavic guy they are mongoloids while your ancestors came from turkic and ugrofinnic siberian nomads with slanted eyes.. i mean you must be shizophrenic or insane!!! this is ridiculous

the scandinavians are nordid and slavs are nordid, baltid and alpinid!!!

the original magyars are turanid and ost baltid!!! who is the mongoloid here you fool! learn real history and genetics!
if you find slavs with mongoloid features it is the offspring of those who mixed with your nomadic magyar ancestors.. 80% of republic hungary inhabitants are not even magyars, they are slavs and germanic people who were assimilated!

here are your magyars:
http://kurultaj.hu/english/
http://www.flagmagazin.hu/userfiles/text/horvath_fill_616x306.JPG
http://www.lazaracing.hu/?q=hu/csabi-kesjar-csaba&page=4

here are slavs on slavic wiking festival in woiln:
http://wikingowie.deviantart.com/art/Wolin-Handicraft-2011-gallery-10w-photo-21-299428055
http://wikingowie.deviantart.com/art/Wolin-Festival-2011-gallery-36-photo-12-276139299

here is how scandinavians look like:
http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-620/h--/q-95/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2009/3/11/1236765205544/Norwegian-black-metal-mus-002.jpg

who is the mongoloid?!... liar

you chauvinist magyars stole our slavic culture magyarized our people and you hate us, lie and decieve about history! you are fools.. you can go back to your kazakh, chechen, turkmen ancestors if you dont like euopeans..

revealman
12-31-2014, 09:50 AM
you know why budapest (slavic word) is today a dirty town and the veneer is falling of the buildings? because they were not built by magyars but by austrian germanic people during monarchy! magyars built nothing, you were nomads, your bridges were built by british people, your metro(subway) by germans, your houses by austrian architects..

only thing you know and love to do is sitting by the water fishing, riding your horse(like mongols) cooking gulash in your primitive kessel over fire and sleeping in tents(modern yurtas) near the danube on weekends to imitate the savage culture of your ancestors before you came here in 10th century and learned what is a house ..

this is why hungary is one of the poorest countries in europe because after monarchy you were left alone and without the help in development from austrians you dropped back to your original primitive lifestyle..

revealman
12-31-2014, 10:00 AM
Medieval Hungarian Culture (MUSIC, palaces churches, paintings, sculpture and fine-arts)

WATCH IT IN FULL HD!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6aZDB4JlBU
since when is germanic gothic architecture a maygar achievement? :picard1:

Stears
12-31-2014, 10:32 AM
since when is germanic gothic architecture a maygar achievement? :picard1: My illiterate friend!:)))))))))))))) Gothic architecture had no relation with goths and germanic tribes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_architecture It is a French origin style.

Stears
01-02-2015, 09:48 AM
hear is your real history you liars! you did not know what is a window when we slovaks already built castles during great moravia samos kingdom, nitra principality and pannonian principality!!! thus you borrowed the word ablak(oblok) and hundreds more agricultural and other words because you were nomads .. you have low self esteem because deep down you know you were homeless nomads without a higher culture.. http://www.woodlandyurts.co.uk/Yurt_Facts/YurtFacts.html http://kurultaj.hu/wp-content/uploads/525563_293128634147585_1913917569_n1-560x420.jpg you want to falsify history to hide the fact you were savages.. slovaks were much more advanced then you savages you adopted almost everything from us, folklore, vocabulary, house building etc. http://numod.hotglue.me/?Yurts/ Kurultaj is a pseudo scientific turanist webpage, and not a reliable source. There are noo proofs for the existence of yurtas in 10th century Hungary. It was just a historic imagination until the 2000s. Nobody could find archaeological evidence for that. However the african tribesmen style mud-hovels. Slovak ethnic group did not exist before the early modern period. (There were no German Polish Hungarian medieval chronicle which mentioned the existence such an ethnic group) Deal with it.

Stears
01-02-2015, 10:40 AM
Eastern face of slovaks


http://www.spojenaskolasala.sk/wp-content/gallery/sokolov/06_sokolov.jpg



http://hnonline.sk/sites/default/files/thumbnails/article/201411/protest_bratislava.jpg

http://www.magnificat.sk/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/ZAR0532.jpg



http://www.zahorak-noviny.sk/images/stories/nov4110/v2.jpg

Slovak secondary school boys

http://spschhe.edupage.sk/photos/skin/clipart/expert1.jpg

http://www.mojanitra.sk/images/clanky/vata/tn_c_25557_4.jpg

http://sosvet.edupage.org/photos/skin/clipart/1_(27).JPG


http://www.spospredza.edu.sk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/IMAG0399.jpg

http://www.oravalive.sk/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Stredn%C3%A1-odborn%C3%A1-%C5%A1kola-obchodu-a-slu%C5%BEieb-Doln%C3%BD-Kub%C3%ADn.png


http://www.zsbracovce.edu.sk/wp-content/uploads/zborpedag.jpg

http://zmaturuj.zones.sk/images/maturanti/2011-2012/48.jpg



PROTEST:


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bbFmYmRXD7k/maxresdefault.jpg


http://hnonline.sk/sites/default/files/thumbnails/article/201411/protest_bratislava.jpg


http://img.aktuality.sk/stories/NAJNOVSIE_FOTKY/ILUSTRACNE/berieme_si_spat_svoju_krajinu_protest_trencin_SITA .jpg

http://img.topky.sk/900px/1189442.jpg/bratislava-protest-gorila-SITA---posledny-9-marec-2012.jpg

Stears
01-02-2015, 10:41 AM
Mongoloid inflected slovak faces.


http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/83283942-slovak-riot-police-clash-with-poland-football-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QXOxTwFIoYrG18q77KmVx421WDaD TcwvaMgiMNVvw61B



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Juventus_supporters.jpg


http://gregi.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/ke-3.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/473774_470723502946577_1474189511_o.jpg


http://hnonline.sk/sites/default/files/thumbnails/article/201410/fanusikovia_54_00.jpg


http://www.sloveniatimes.com/modules/uploader/uploads/Aktualno/Podobe1/slovenski_oktet3_big.jpg


http://img.cas.sk/img/4/galleryBig/1284703_hokej-ms2012-rusko-slovensko.jpg

http://img.cas.sk/img/4/galleryBig/1840393_dochodcovia-anketa.jpg

http://img.aktuality.sk/stories/NAJNOVSIE_FOTKY/ILUSTRACNE/LUDIA/article/dochodca_studium_dochodcovia_praca_12_dreamstime.j pg

http://img.cas.sk/img/4/bigArticle/536603_dochodca-dochodok-peniaze-senior.jpg

http://europskaunia.sulik.sk/files/2013/09/alternativa-pre-nemecko-dochodcovia.jpg

http://www.webnoviny.sk/fotografie/1139331/650xH/slovenski-hokejisti-odcestovali-do-soci.jpg

http://img.cas.sk/img/4/bigArticle/1783739_andrej-babis-ivan-chrenko-jaroslav-hascak.jpg

http://www.slovenskozijehokejom.sk/wp-content/gallery/motokar/motokar09.jpg

http://ipravda.sk/res/2007/05/07/thumbs/110663-slovenski-fanusikovia-nestandard2.jpg

http://sportky.topky.sk/cacheImg/obr/1200px/marek-hamsik-svadba-martina-381122.jpg

Antimage
01-02-2015, 11:29 AM
Mongoloid inflected slovak faces.




based on these photos, slovaks look darker and less european than hungarians.

revealman
07-23-2015, 11:14 AM
based on these photos, slovaks look darker and less european than hungarians.
less european? you mean less nordic, because most europeans have brown hair and dark eyes such as italians, french, basques, romanians, greeks, macedonians, serbs, portugese, spanish etc. all those countries of brown haired/eyed individuals had the highest cultures in europe while the savage nordic pale faces had not even a sewage system few hundred years ago and copied all maths, law, philosophy, geometry, religion from the swarthy romans! get real! nordics are not superior at all, they lived as barbarians, vandals, vikings in small wooden huts before the swarthy romans civilised them! stears is just a progeny of nordic savages who were civilised by swarthy romans and now claim to be superior, what a fool!!! stears is a racist nordic savage idiot

stears and his illiterate nordic clan trying to challenge the culturally advanced swarthy romans


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVKjzUhyufY

Antimage
07-23-2015, 11:27 AM
less european? you mean less nordic, because most europeans have brown hair and dark eyes such as italians, french, basques, romanians, greeks, macedonians, serbs, portugese, spanish etc. all those countries of brown haired/eyed individuals had the highest cultures in europe while the savage nordic pale faces had not even a sewage system few hundred years ago and copied all maths, law, philosophy, geometry, religion from the swarthy romans! get real! nordics are not superior at all, they lived as barbarians, vandals, vikings in small wooden huts before the swarthy romans civilised them! stears is just a progeny of nordic savages who were civilised by swarthy romans and now claim to be superior, what a fool!!! stears is a racist nordic savage idiot

stears and his illiterate nordic clan trying to challenge the culturally advanced swarthy romans


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVKjzUhyufY

it was trolling dude. Slovaks are very similar to hungarians

revealman
07-23-2015, 11:31 AM
the brown olive skinned greeks and romans were light years ahead and culturally superior to the nordic pale savages

here a painting of old roman:
http://www.touregypt.net/images/touregypt/mport9.jpg
modern roman(italian):
http://weblog.zoover.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/Italians-most-attractive.jpg

stears your nordic inferiority complex is pathetic, you dehonest swarthy people in nearly all your posts on apricity!



swarthy romans:
http://www.avaxnews.net/fact/Army_of_Ancient_Rome_in_Malta.html?sa=X&ved=0CDUQ9QEwEDh4ahUKEwiDq4fzlPHGAhUDPhQKHeq8ABc

nordic savages:
http://media3.popsugar-assets.com/files/2015/05/20/867/n/1922398/79c9b480_edit_img_cover_file_16548855_1432138964_V _featuredjwdKMq.xxxlarge/i/Vikings-TV-Show-Historically-Accurate.jpg

LouisFerdinand
08-23-2017, 12:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj-pAiRtiMc

revealman
02-27-2018, 11:16 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPXJgL-jZC4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds1LCLxe37U

revealman
02-27-2018, 11:43 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH-qNfn3t2o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x05cUlRh_R8

revealman
02-27-2018, 11:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGTfNsmHBVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlpmgQY-Q7I

revealman
02-27-2018, 12:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NooZ10uetL8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3LeQ4doZ-Q

revealman
02-27-2018, 12:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi3SfBvruH4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0by5YYofJhY

revealman
02-27-2018, 12:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGgFXtL0Jco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCESdwhSQPY

revealman
02-27-2018, 12:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30nPAp2c6yQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyAWcWtecZw