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Neon Knight
11-03-2014, 09:01 AM
Why is a skinhead hair cut associated with nationalism/fascism? Why not a long-haired Viking image?

Grenzland
11-03-2014, 09:04 AM
Media. That's all.

Anglojew
11-03-2014, 09:05 AM
Probably an anti-hippy militaristic thing

Fear Fiain
11-03-2014, 09:40 AM
Probably an anti-hippy militaristic thing

basically this.
it originated with dock and industrial workers and was re-enforced by militance and a rejection of hippy and "soft mod" looks.

Graham
11-03-2014, 09:47 AM
Were the Vikings actually long haired? Sorry, I have no idea.

Numerius
11-03-2014, 10:59 AM
Were the Vikings actually long haired? Sorry, I have no idea.

Generally, yes. It was mostly their slaves who had shorter hair.

XUTERO
11-03-2014, 11:00 AM
Skinheads are imbeciles who desecrate the National Socialist ideal.
They are no more than an artificial product of the zionists/capitalists liberals.
The "extreme right" did not exist during WWII, plus National Socialism is the perfect fusion between right and left movements.

Those imbeciles play right into the plans of the zionists.
It is no fiction because for instance, the Svoboda political party in Ukraine, "so-called National Socialist" is sponsored by zionists
like Bernard-Henri Lévy;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Bernard-Henri_L%C3%A9vy-tau-1.jpg/220px-Bernard-Henri_L%C3%A9vy-tau-1.jpg

like Jacques Attali;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Jacques_Attali.jpg/220px-Jacques_Attali.jpg

and many others.

Those zionists promote a vandalism party who can only act through violence and chaos, exactly the inverse of National Socialism.
The Svoboda political party is the perfect example of fools being manipulated by the WWII zionist propaganda and lies.
They destroy public wealth and will assault anyone who doesn't think like them;

http://youtu.be/Emk6QMVma3w
Source --> http://www.les-crises.fr/chute-statue-de-lenine-a-kharkiv/


I mean seriously, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT?!!!?;
http://demotivators.org.ua/d/demotivators.org.ua-45143-5.jpg


No, if the Reich was still here, those people would be send off to prison or labour camps.
The zionist support them so that people would think this nonsense to be National Socialism. The reality is that the real
National Socialist ideal was fighting against those who nowadays promote this violence.

National Socialism =/= neo-nazi!
Those criminal vandals do not represent the National Socialist ideal whatsoever and our Fuhrer would cry from the heavens
if he saw this scandalous folly.

http://jns.manschile.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/1422431_665446550152757_549789319_n.jpg





Were the Vikings actually long haired? Sorry, I have no idea.

They probably had most of the time, seeing that almost everybody, at that time had long hair.

StormBringer
11-03-2014, 11:57 AM
I remember a Slovakian metalhead telling me how back in the 90s he had to watch out for skinheads, but that with the advent of NSBM nowadays he has to watch out for antifas. xD

LightHouse89
11-03-2014, 12:24 PM
I remember a Slovakian metalhead telling me how back in the 90s he had to watch out for skinheads, but that with the advent of NSBM nowadays he has to watch out for antifas. xD

here we have to watch out for communists....its okay I wear steel toe boots and one kick from those and that will send a commie to the ER if they touch me. I listen to racist music all the time and I could care less if it offends people.

StormBringer
11-03-2014, 12:33 PM
here we have to watch out for communists....its okay I wear steel toe boots and one kick from those and that will send a commie to the ER if they touch me. I listen to racist music all the time and I could care less if it offends people.

Hah, I've never had negative run ins with either of two groups, if there wasn't for occasional graffiti "correspondence" between the two on walls I wouldn't even notice they exist, I remember there being couple of skinheads on a Wolf's Hunger gig couple of year ago, they seemed like ok fellas, acted normally in the mosh pit.
Though, apparently that very gig was almost cancelled due to some leftist NGO complaining about such a band playing a gig in a place which purpose is organization of events for students and what not.

LightHouse89
11-03-2014, 01:45 PM
Hah, I've never had negative run ins with either of two groups, if there wasn't for occasional graffiti "correspondence" between the two on walls I wouldn't even notice they exist, I remember there being couple of skinheads on a Wolf's Hunger gig couple of year ago, they seemed like ok fellas, acted normally in the mosh pit.
Though, apparently that very gig was almost cancelled due to some leftist NGO complaining about such a band playing a gig in a place which purpose is organization of events for students and what not.

yes here people can be banned for 'hate speech' yet we have 'freedom of speech'...I guess liberalism is dying here LOL. But here you notice them now more and more...not skinheads just the far right is changing its direction from Neo-Nazi Skinheadism into far rightism......or political activism.. The formation of the white student union here caused alot of controversy which is amazing but it is entirely legal to do....seeing we have black student unions, jew student unions etc....we are entitled to look out for our interests especially seeing we are becoming minorities. The Jews and other races here on campuses every where scream and holler about intolerance etc...... :rolleyes: we really do not care if we offend them or anyone here hahaha.

Linebacker
11-03-2014, 02:00 PM
Most neo-nazis and skinheads fit the real nazis's image of the untermensch,

Rise of the inferior.

Minesweeper
11-03-2014, 02:09 PM
Skinhead look aside, I once posted a pic here wearing a Flight jacket and people asked me am I a nazi? That's how far it goes.

Shane
11-03-2014, 02:16 PM
Skinheads are clowns. I know that in my country they would attack me for my beliefs, even tough I look more ''Aryan'' or whatever than 90% of them, and I'm closer to real National-Socialism regarding politics.

They are aggressive lowlifes.

Blackfyre
11-03-2014, 02:37 PM
Why is a skinhead hair cut associated with nationalism/fascism? Why not a long-haired Viking image?

As someone who associates and believes in classical fascism, I can say, that the neo-nazi skinheads have nothing to do with fascism. They are but a band of criminals and good-for-nothings mostly at least. They are mere hooligans: pretending to love something (the nation) just to let free their animalistic lust for violence and blind hate. Skinheads can't be conisdered nazis either, as the original nazis could at best just use them as cannon fodder during war.

As for the long-haired look, I don't see why that would be needed. Whilst fascism is not so much focused on pagan believes, as fascism can be seen as a political religion itself, nazism does indeed revolve a lot around paganism, never the less, both are a modern authoritarian political belief, thus short hair and uniforms are prefered.

The fascist and nazi look should be rather polished, a uniform and a fine haircut, decency and manners, that would fit the fascist and nazi immage rather. The neo-nazi ideology is, on the other hand, perfectly presented via skinheads.

Smaug
11-03-2014, 02:48 PM
British punks.

Fortis in Arduis
11-03-2014, 03:02 PM
It was one of the British working-class street fashions of the time, and so when the far-right took a revival, after political uniforms were banned, this took its place.

However, the skinhead style is not exclusive to the far-right. Anarchist anti-fascist skinheads/punks will adopt this style. It looks smart, and there are all sorts of variations, from the Crombie to the braces to the boots, brogues and loafers, to the sharp suits, and various types of headwear etc.


A skinhead is a member of a subculture that originated among working class youths in London, England in the 1960s and then soon spread to other parts of the United Kingdom, and later to other countries around the world. Named for their close-cropped or shaven heads, the first skinheads were greatly influenced by West Indian (specifically Jamaican) rude boys and British mods, in terms of fashion, music and lifestyle.[1] Originally, the skinhead subculture was mainly based on those elements, not politics or race. In fact, some British Skinheads during the 1960s were black.[citation needed]

Eventually, political affiliations grew in significance for the skinhead subculture, and now the political spectrum within the subculture spans from far right to far left, although many skinheads describe themselves as apolitical. Contemporary skinhead fashions range from clean-cut 1960s mod-influenced styles to less-strict punk- and hardcore-influenced styles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead

The English do not have a national dress, and so it is said that this is reinvented by each generation.

Minesweeper
11-03-2014, 03:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IjZpPToGOg

Fortis in Arduis
11-03-2014, 03:08 PM
Skinheads are clowns. I know that in my country they would attack me for my beliefs, even tough I look more ''Aryan'' or whatever than 90% of them, and I'm closer to real National-Socialism regarding politics.

They are aggressive lowlifes.

Do you not have anarchist skinheads in Croatia? They would not exactly be your political fan-club, but they tend to see the enemy as fascist, capitalist and socialist, in that order, so you would be last on their list of priorities.

That does not make much sense to me, because the Establishment is currently capitalist and socialist in orientation.

If anything such persons might be better directed towards combating capitalists, socialists and then fascists, but hey...

Siberia62
11-03-2014, 03:35 PM
The skinhead look is negative for Nationalism. Why they still dress up like that I don't know.

I like the music don't get me wrong, but fuck, look respectable and the public may buy into your ideas more.

Carignan
11-03-2014, 03:46 PM
Neo-nazis are scums and do not represent the white nationalist agenda. It is a shame that nationalist movements attract a lot of low IQ white thrash who
know nothing about history,civil manners and respect.

XUTERO
11-03-2014, 03:56 PM
I forgot to mention that those skinheads probably believe to fight for some sort of ridiculous, racist pseudo ideology, that is a lie to begin with.
In reality they are perfect little capitalist pawns, but they are not smart enough to figure that out, I fear.

LightHouse89
11-03-2014, 04:11 PM
It was one of the British working-class street fashions of the time, and so when the far-right took a revival, after political uniforms were banned, this took its place.

However, the skinhead style is not exclusive to the far-right. Anarchist anti-fascist skinheads/punks will adopt this style. It looks smart, and there are all sorts of variations, from the Crombie to the braces to the boots, brogues and loafers, to the sharp suits, and various types of headwear etc.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead

The English do not have a national dress, and so it is said that this is reinvented by each generation.

You cannot wear political uniforms? That is pretty lame.

LightHouse89
11-03-2014, 04:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IjZpPToGOg

LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_b0-mMtp8Y

Leo Iscariot
11-03-2014, 04:17 PM
Because they co-opted the look from the true skinheads.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead

Prince Of Macrobia
11-03-2014, 04:26 PM
They don't seems Skinhead but typical Wangisters. They should be sent to hell in order to stop been retarded.

StormBringer
11-03-2014, 04:31 PM
Romper Stomper
I like this cover.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkwUZ_HIvZo

Fortis in Arduis
11-03-2014, 04:34 PM
You cannot wear political uniforms? That is pretty lame.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Order_Act_1936

Immortal Technique
11-03-2014, 04:35 PM
FUCK NEONAZI AND RACISTS

Blackfyre
11-03-2014, 04:42 PM
Also, forgot to address the issue of the topic name itself. "...far right politics" Well, maybe Nazism, to some degree, can be seen as a right wing thing, but fascism is utterly third possitionist, that is, something above both left and right. To claim that fascism is right-wing is a bit absurd. We must not forget that fascism merges the best of both worlds, of right and left, and is as right wing as left wing. You can look at the early (real) falange in Spain, under Jose Antonio, which made a focus on the working class and class warfare.
What is even more shameful are self-declared fascists which also declare themselves as right-wingers, showing that they know nothing and that they are just fake. The absurdity around fake fascists today is the one of their continued fight against the left. Guess what, it made sense in the Cold War, but it is not the left which is in charge and ruining our nations, but liberal and conservative right-wingers. Those hooligan skinheads are a large part of this, and any fascist, or nazi for that matter, should alienate themselves from these individuals.
On the other hand, you have the opposite thing, that is, people (most leftists which never read anything about fascism aside Lenin's braindead quote of "Fascism is capitalism in decay" and other geniouses which never took a single minutes to learn about fascism) who declare anything bad in politics as fascist; the UKIP is fascist, the GOP is fascist, ..... the tip of this are some imbeciles in the US which would call Obama a fascist (a communist islamofascist for that matter... :picard1: ). I hope that those people just joke around.... I REALLY hope that-

ЛыSSый
11-03-2014, 04:50 PM
Why is a skinhead hair cut associated with nationalism/fascism? i don't know what it means in your arabized-nigerized europas, but here this haircut known as "gopnik-stile". And i await for shiny butthurt from shaggy bulgarian gypsies.


Why not a long-haired Viking image? ya-ya, longhaired pussy, it much more clother to truth.

LightHouse89
11-07-2014, 12:24 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Order_Act_1936

wow LOL that is absurd. Britain is really not so much a free country. We have neo-nazis here and shockingly the numbers have doubled since the election of a Negrid president. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki7qj2fNX40

Infact alot of right wing groups have emerged. Most groups are not neo-nazis though. the largest group here wears black uniforms....sort of like the british union fascists...they use to wear the old brown shirts too hahaha.

Leo Iscariot
11-18-2014, 09:19 PM
Also, forgot to address the issue of the topic name itself. "...far right politics" Well, maybe Nazism, to some degree, can be seen as a right wing thing, but fascism is utterly third possitionist, that is, something above both left and right. To claim that fascism is right-wing is a bit absurd. We must not forget that fascism merges the best of both worlds, of right and left, and is as right wing as left wing. You can look at the early (real) falange in Spain, under Jose Antonio, which made a focus on the working class and class warfare.
What is even more shameful are self-declared fascists which also declare themselves as right-wingers, showing that they know nothing and that they are just fake. The absurdity around fake fascists today is the one of their continued fight against the left. Guess what, it made sense in the Cold War, but it is not the left which is in charge and ruining our nations, but liberal and conservative right-wingers. Those hooligan skinheads are a large part of this, and any fascist, or nazi for that matter, should alienate themselves from these individuals.
On the other hand, you have the opposite thing, that is, people (most leftists which never read anything about fascism aside Lenin's braindead quote of "Fascism is capitalism in decay" and other geniouses which never took a single minutes to learn about fascism) who declare anything bad in politics as fascist; the UKIP is fascist, the GOP is fascist, ..... the tip of this are some imbeciles in the US which would call Obama a fascist (a communist islamofascist for that matter... :picard1: ). I hope that those people just joke around.... I REALLY hope that-

Not too many people seems to understand this. Although individual stances very, I flirted around third positionism in the past for those reasons, not to mention the strong civic nationalist stance most have (Though, it runs the gamut from civic nationalism to cultural nationalism to ethnic nationalism).

mikeyup
11-18-2014, 09:22 PM
"A skinhead is a member of a subculture that originated among working class youths in London, England in the 1970s and then soon spread to other parts of the United Kingdom, and later to other countries around the world. Named for their close-cropped or shaven heads, the first skinheads were greatly influenced by West Indian (specifically Jamaican) rude boys and British mods, in terms of fashion, music and lifestyle.[1] Originally, the skinhead subculture was mainly based on those elements, not politics or race."

barbatus
11-18-2014, 09:25 PM
I have never seen a skinhead among AWB or any other Afrikaner Far-right groups. I don't think Skinhead-ism ever took off in SA. South African Far-right people look different.

barbatus
11-18-2014, 09:30 PM
I think most conservative Christian Afrikaners would find Skinhead-ism to be quite shocking, honestly. Afrikaner Far-right is more traditional, perhaps. Men are men and act like men. Skinheads act like hooligans and would likely be shunned

Leo Iscariot
11-18-2014, 09:30 PM
Here's an article on (Non-racist) Mexican skinheads. It's an interesting read on how the subculture is seen over there.

https://www.vice.com/read/mexican-skins-125-v15n6