Female Exemplars

[Psychonaut]

Most of the texts in this field contain plates that are either wholly or predominately male, which can make it difficult for people who are new to the subject to correctly identify females. Let's make a collection of females who exemplify the various types.

Guidelines: Try to find individuals who are not mixed. Someone who is Alpinid + Med is an exemplar of neither. Also, try to get pictures that conform to the guidelines Stegura posted here (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1392). I know profiles can be difficult to find, but do try. :)

Anyway, here are a few to get us started:

Keltic Nordid: Cate Blanchett (Australia)

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Alpinid: Christina Ricci (US)

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Bruenn: Imelda Staunton (UK)

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[Psychonaut]

Corded: Carolina Klüft (Sweden)

294 295 296

[Oresai]

Any chance of any Baltid examples please? :) Says the woman told she was Baltid. :D

[TheGreatest]

Any chance of any Baltid examples please? :) Says the woman told she was Baltid. :D


Baltid in Scotland? :confused:
Maybe it came from the Vikings or the something? I'ld think you would be a generalized or a infantisilized Bruenn

[Psychonaut]

Mediterranid (Small): Olivia Hussey (Argentina)

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[TheGreatest]

Mediterranid (Small): Olivia Hussey (Argentina)



But I don't think a straight profile nose is Mediterranid? Could that be Castiza admixture or Rhinoplasty?

[Psychonaut]

But I don't think a straight profile nose is Mediterranid? Could that be Castiza admixture or Rhinoplasty?

Regarding the noses of Small Meds, Coon says:


Short stature, about 160 cm.; skull length 183-187 mm. male mean; vault height 132-137 mm. mean; cranial index means 73-75; browridges and bone development weak, face short, nose leptorrhine to mesorrhine.

Earnst Hooton says:


There are two variants of the Classic Mediterranean type - straight-nosed and hook-nosed. The former is the more primitive and the more widely distributed. It extended in prehistoric times along both shores of the Mediterranean, into central, western, and northern Europe and down into the Horn of Africa. Its area of characterization and source of dissemination cannot have been far from the traditional Garden of Eden - Mesopotamia, which archaeologists include in “the Fertile Crescent.” There is not much doubt that the eastward extension of straight-nosed Mediterraneans of the Classic type provided the White basis of the early populations in southeastern Asia and Indonesia. They probably were the main carriers of the Aryan language into India at a much later date.



The expansion of the aquiline or hook-nosed Mediterranean type seems to have been somewhat more limited and probably later than that of the straight-nosed variant. In historical times, it was carried into North Africa and Spain principally by the Arabs, but other Semitic-speaking and non-Semitic peoples of prehistoric times may well have possessed this variation. Some of this type may have reached India, but nasal convexity there seems largely the result of infusions of the Iranian Plateau type.

Straight noses seem to be the norm with all of the plates too. Also, I'm pretty sure she's not had a nose job, since she looked exactly the same when she was in Romeo and Juliet at age 17.

[Psychonaut]

Borreby: Emma Bunton (England)

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[Psychonaut]

Nordid (Hallstatt): Kajsa Bergqvist (Sweden)

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[Psychonaut]

Norid: Steffi Graf (Germany)

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[Psychonaut]

Faelid: Marg Helgenberger (US)

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[Psychonaut]

West Baltid: Katja Halme (Finland)

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[Agrippa]

But I don't think a straight profile nose is Mediterranid? Could that be Castiza admixture or Rhinoplasty?

Actually the standard Mediterranid type, especially Gracilmediterranid, but also Atlantomediterranid, have very high frequencies of straight nasal profiles, probably one of the highest of all types. Even Nordid variants have not more often straight nasal profiles (quite often wavy and/or convex) than Gracilmediterranids.

Compare a quite typical French Atlantomediterranid from Coon:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1609/troe232lx0.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=troe232lx0.jpg)

Mediterranid, "Westisch", 3rd prize winner in a German competition (for typical racial variants):
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7016/drkwestisch1cf5.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=drkwestisch1cf5.jpg)

As for female examples, I made, some time ago, facial morphs of pred. Nordid and pred. Baltid samples, as well as Mediterranid.

Nordid:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8607/nordid16cbz2.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nordid16cbz2.jpg)
Osteuropid:
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7070/osteuropid7ev5.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=osteuropid7ev5.jpg)
Mediterranid:
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8679/westatlantomediterranidjg9.th.jpg (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=westatlantomediterranidjg9.jpg)

Pred. Nordid vs. Eastbaltid from Scandinavia:
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3723/nordidvseastbaltidtb1.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nordidvseastbaltidtb1.jpg)

[The Black Prince]

Here are first two Dutch Faelid examples:

http://i34.tinypic.com/v7qhxe.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/dcuhp3.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/m76g50.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/dfex51.jpg

[Falkata]

Atlanto-med actress from Spain


Paz Vega

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p202/Apollo3000/paz-vega_09.jpg

http://luizcore.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/paz-vega-1.jpg


Pilar Lopez de Ayala

http://www.lavape.es/lapelikula/prota/imgs/pldqyala2.jpg

http://www.peliculas.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/pilar-lopez-de-ayala-en-la-ciudad-de-sylvia.jpg

http://www.quedepeliculas.com/cartel-200712/200712173501_31030700-pelicula-pilar-lopez-de-ayala.jpg

[Mesrine]

Alpinid: Christina Ricci (US)

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Ricci is an odd case of foetalized Med, she's not CM at all, and can't be used as a posterchild for any phenotype.



Corded: Carolina Klüft (Sweden)

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Klüft is CM. Slight Nordid admix is possible, though.

[Psychonaut]

Ricci is an odd case of foetalized Med, she's not CM at all, and can't be used as a posterchild for any phenotype.

Klüft is CM. Slight Nordid admix is possible, though.

Ya think? I can hardly think of a female with a more spherical head than Ricci. Klüft, as well, certainly seems Corded to me. She's got a definitely rounded occiput, which CMs usually don't have. She also looks much more dolichocephalic than brachycephalic. She's certainly more gracile than any of the Faelid women posted in this thread.

[Mesrine]

Ya think? I can hardly think of a female with a more spherical head than Ricci.

That's a feature of foetalization (on a Med type), but Alpinids are supposed to be reduced CMs, much more square and robust, though being short. Ricci is way too gracile, IMO.



Klüft, as well, certainly seems Corded to me. She's got a definitely rounded occiput, which CMs usually don't have. She also looks much more dolichocephalic than brachycephalic.

CMs can be dolichocephalic, a long braincase is the "default" shape of the human head. But it's true most Cromagniform phenotypes became brachycephalized, though Europeans' CIs are going down again in the last decades.

[Black Turlogh]

Mediterranid (Small): Olivia Hussey (Argentina)

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Off-topic, but I remember seeing her in the 1968 version of Romeo and Juliet. I've been in love with her since I was a boy. Beautiful woman.

[Amarantine]

I am not sure either about Ricci as Alpinid...

[The Black Prince]

Ya think? I can hardly think of a female with a more spherical head than Ricci. Klüft, as well, certainly seems Corded to me. She's got a definitely rounded occiput, which CMs usually don't have. She also looks much more dolichocephalic than brachycephalic. She's certainly more gracile than any of the Faelid women posted in this thread.
CMs can be dolichocephalic, a long braincase is the "default" shape of the human head. But it's true most Cromagniform phenotypes became brachycephalized, though Europeans' CIs are going down again in the last decades.
imho Klüft is a good example of the Trønder/Trönder type (Scandinavian mix of Nordid-Corded-Cromagnid). And then especially the Svea subtype which has a higher Corded element.

[Loki]

Klüft is CM. Slight Nordid admix is possible, though.

One of the most bizarre anthropological statements I have ever had the pleasure to read. At this level it becomes ridiculous.

[Mesrine]

One of the most bizarre anthropological statements I have ever had the pleasure to read. At this level it becomes ridiculous.

What is your call on Klüft then? Anyway it's supposed to be ridiculous, this old anthropometrical typology is outdated since we discovered DNA in the 50's, ya know...

[Loki]

What is your call on Klüft then? Anyway it's supposed to be ridiculous, this old anthropometrical typology is outdated since we discovered DNA in the 50's, ya know...

She's just Nordic. All these sub-sub-sub races are ridiculous and mostly fictional.

[Mesrine]

All these sub-sub-sub races are ridiculous and mostly fictional.

Glad you acknowledge that. Doesn't mean that we can't torture the retards who believe in this outdated typology, though. :D

[SuuT]

(Harmonious) Faelids: Michelle pfeiffer, Kim Basinger.

[ikki]

What is your call on Klüft then? Anyway it's supposed to be ridiculous, this old anthropometrical typology is outdated since we discovered DNA in the 50's, ya know...

not quite.
rather dna seems to be a inferior technique.

Just as excact, but morphology is way faster and cheaper.. seems to require extensive skill tho!
Not unlike the discussion whether the american freedom army vs english overlords should be equipped with muskets or bow and arrow ;)

[The Black Prince]

Dutch Atlantid:

http://i33.tinypic.com/33m4umc.jpg http://i36.tinypic.com/dxfsls.jpg
Famke Jansen

[Atlas]

Corded: Carolina Klüft (Sweden)

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:amour101::amour101::amour101:

[la bombe]

That's a feature of foetalization (on a Med type), but Alpinids are supposed to be reduced CMs, much more square and robust, though being short. Ricci is way too gracile, IMO.

If you're referring to body type, Christina Ricci isn't gracile by nature. She's struggled with eating disorders and lost a lot of weight over the years (including a breast reduction surgery).

I think she's a good example of an uber-alpinoid.

[The Black Prince]

Dutch Cromagnid (Faelid) examples are on page 2 of this thread.

Dutch Classic Nordid examples:

http://i34.tinypic.com/2hs7v5x.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/14x1c9f.jpg
Dutch TV presenter

http://i38.tinypic.com/2vvjqqx.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/15qevix.jpg http://i36.tinypic.com/mv3uxf.jpg
(senior) Dutch TV- and theatre actrice


Dutch Nordid-Cromagnid (some are Corded influenced) examples:

http://i37.tinypic.com/2igek5c.jpg http://i38.tinypic.com/2d86l0.jpg http://i37.tinypic.com/2hhk93k.jpg
Dutch TV presenter/actrice (Nordid-Cromagnid)

http://i34.tinypic.com/zl5r5.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/30xddf8.jpg
Dutch singer (Cromagnid > Nordid)

http://i34.tinypic.com/6f366e.jpg http://i37.tinypic.com/2dcakie.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/2hs83de.jpg
Dutch singer (Nordid-Cromagnid)

http://i38.tinypic.com/24yzhwh.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/oi994i.jpg http://i34.tinypic.com/2eck9br.jpg
Dutch topmodel (Nordid-Cromagnid + strong Corded influences)

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2550/daphne1235xc.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/34r9dgl.jpg
Dutch TV presenter (Nordid-Cromagnid)

http://i35.tinypic.com/4k7cp5.jpg
http://boeken.blog.nl/files/2009/04/yfkesturm.jpg http://i37.tinypic.com/2e5tdeq.jpg
Dutch Topmodel (Nordid-Cromagnid)

http://i35.tinypic.com/2d9a9j.jpg http://i33.tinypic.com/5ul0td.jpg http://i37.tinypic.com/if06ix.jpg
Dutch topmodel (Nordid with Cromagnid/Corded admixture)

[Comte Arnau]

Mediterranid (Small): Olivia Hussey (Argentina)

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I don't think she's too representative. Her English side can be perceived, even more nowadays.

For a small Med, Iberia is full of them (even if most in combination with Atlanto-Med, Alpine and/or Cromagnoid).

Two samples, IMO:

Cristina Brondo

http://www.josetriana.com/html/2784_REPRESENTACION_CINE_Y_TELEVISION/img/prodsec_39934_.jpg

Paula Echevarria

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Models+Paula+Echevarria+Eva+Gonzalez+Attend+C_n2he 0k7S-l.jpg

[Falkata]

Ana de Armas Caso, cuban. Her 2 surnames are spanish so I guess she has full spanish ancestry, but i couldn´t find any info about it.
Is she alpine-med? :confused: Stunning girl anyway.

http://especiales.fhm.es/100sexys2009/imagenes/ana-celia-de-armas-1.jpg

http://www.formulatv.com/images/fgaleria/9200/9217_ana-de-armas.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zrCB9fQraA

[Mesrine]

Paula Echevarria

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Models+Paula+Echevarria+Eva+Gonzalez+Attend+C_n2he 0k7S-l.jpg

Fabulous complexion, only warm colours.

[Comte Arnau]

Fabulous complexion, only warm colours.

Yep. Although she obviously has a tan. I guess her natural skintone is a few shades lighter, although some Asturians and (inner) Galicians can be quite dark pigmented, specially hair and eyes.

In some pics she slightly reminds me of Leila Bekhti. ;)

http://www.gradostudios.com/arte/PaulaEchevarria.jpg

[Foxy]

Atlanto-Mediterraneans:
http://unduetreblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/sabrina_ferilli.jpg (ITA, Latium-Sabrina Ferilli)
http://www.marieclaire.it/var/marieclaire/storage/images/beauty/bellezza/senza-trucco__1/monica-bellucci-per-dior/8061004-1-ita-IT/monica_bellucci_per_dior.jpg (ITA, Umbria- Monica Bellucci)
http://www.vegastar.it/Portals/0/laura-torrisi.jpg (ITA-Laura Torrisi)

Dinaricized mediterranean(?):
http://www.divasthesite.com/images/Sophia_Loren/Sophia_Loren_nickname_01.jpg
(ITA, Latium - Sofia Loren)


Alpine:
http://images.alice.it/sg/sportuni/upload/car/0000/carolina_kostner6.jpg
(ITA, Sudtirol - Karolina Kostner)
http://city.corriere.it/2009/09/08/foto/2.0.510450178.jpg
(ITA, Lombardy - Fiammetta Cicogna)

Baltid:
http://static.blogo.it/tvblog/le-foto-delle-nuove-ereditiere-de-leredita-con-carlo-conti/BenedettaMazza_mg_2109.jpg
(ITA, Emilia-Romagna - Benedetta Mazza)

Hallstatt Nordic:
http://www.tgcom.mediaset.it/bin/463.$plit/C_0_articolo_462275_listatakes_itemTake_0_immagine take.jpg
(ITA/GER- Eva Riccobono)

Keltic Nordic:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NqFVTzCJCZc/SE3VCFdcrnI/AAAAAAAAAHw/t3_rF9TvptQ/s400/agrodolce+%2B+serena+autieri.jpg
(ITA, Campania - Serena Autieri)
http://www.otranto.biz/eventi/foto/alessia-marcuzzi.jpg
(ITA, Latium - Alessia Marcuzzi)


Borreby (?):
http://www.xaluan.com/images/news/Image/2007/11/11/federica_fontana_01-71107.jpg
(ITA, Lombardy - Federica Fontana)

[Agrippa]

Honestly that are all interesting female faces, but few of them are typical for the types mentioned in my opinion, a lot are actually with various traits going in the opposite direction. Better placed in the beautiful European women thread :)

[Cato]

Cate.. Christina... Must..... Spawn........ *Drools*

[Agrippa]

Pred. Atlantid phenotype (slight Cromagnid influences) = Mary-Louise Parker:
http://dailycontributor.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/mary-louise-parker.jpg

Pred. (rather Atlanto-) Mediterranid Spanish girls, progressive, beautiful, harmonious - the most deviating one is the girl on the left (Cromagno-Alpinoid direction), others are largely Mediterranid variation in my opinion:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5045&stc=1&d=1277155979

Some more examples going in the same direction:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5046&stc=1&d=1277156302
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5047&d=1277156302
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5048&stc=1&d=1277156304
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5049&stc=1&d=1277156304
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5050&stc=1&d=1277156304http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5051&stc=1&d=1277156304

Pred. Eastalpinid girls and women from Hungary:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5052&stc=1&d=1277156621
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5053&stc=1&d=1277156621http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5054&stc=1&d=1277156621
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5055&stc=1&d=1277156621http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5056&stc=1&d=1277156621
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5057&stc=1&d=1277156621

[Agrippa]

Pred. Dinarid (mostly Adriatid, some Norid) girls and women from Albania (some have varying degrees of especially Alpinoid and Mediterranid-Nordid influences):

[Agrippa]

Pred. Atlanto-Pontid/Pontid-Mediterranids from Bulgaria:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=4487&d=1272187519

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5073&stc=1&d=1277158021

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5074&stc=1&d=1277158021

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5075&stc=1&d=1277158021

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5076&stc=1&d=1277158021

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5077&stc=1&d=1277158021

Pred. Armenid Armenians (some with especially Asian Alpinoid influences):


http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5078&stc=1&d=1277158264

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5079&stc=1&d=1277158264

Those in the middle (!):
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5080&stc=1&d=1277158264

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5081&stc=1&d=1277158264

[Aviane]

Ya think? I can hardly think of a female with a more spherical head than Ricci. Klüft, as well, certainly seems Corded to me. She's got a definitely rounded occiput, which CMs usually don't have. She also looks much more dolichocephalic than brachycephalic. She's certainly more gracile than any of the Faelid women posted in this thread.

Ricci looks more softer featured than Klüft but both are more slender faced or bodied than the Cromagnids.

[Arne]

Fälid from a city located in the NetherRhine Regio named Düsseldorf in West Germany
http://eur.i1.yimg.com/eur.yimg.com/ng/mo/emv/20080211/18/515128155.jpg
http://p4.focus.de/img/gen/0/2/2302_HBLLBFvayWe_Pxgen_r_284x400.jpg
http://img.listal.com/image/87563/600full-esther-schweins.jpg
http://home.wtal.de/nowers/bilder/esther/esther25.jpg
http://home.wtal.de/nowers/bilder/esther/Esther.jpg
http://home.wtal.de/nowers/bilder/esther/esther01.jpg

Oh damn she has gentle Fingers
http://home.wtal.de/nowers/bilder/esther/esther19.jpg

[dutch girl]

i'm wonderding what keira knighley is?

is she an atlantid? (i'm still trying to figure out how to classify people)

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080620/080620-Keira%20Knightley-vmed-537p.widec.jpg

[MagnaLaurentia]

i'm wonderding what keira knighley is?

is she an atlantid? (i'm still trying to figure out how to classify people)

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photo_StoryLevel/080620/080620-Keira%20Knightley-vmed-537p.widec.jpg

Atlantid + CM

[celtogermaniciberian]

Most of the texts in this field contain plates that are either wholly or predominately male, which can make it difficult for people who are new to the subject to correctly identify females. Let's make a collection of females who exemplify the various types.

Guidelines: Try to find individuals who are not mixed. Someone who is Alpinid + Med is an exemplar of neither. Also, try to get pictures that conform to the guidelines Stegura posted here (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1392). I know profiles can be difficult to find, but do try. :)

Anyway, here are a few to get us started:

Keltic Nordid: Cate Blanchett (Australia)

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Alpinid: Christina Ricci (US)

288 289 290

Bruenn: Imelda Staunton (UK)

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[celtogermaniciberian]

cate blanchett is not keltic nordid shes anglosaxon hallstatt + CM

tilda swinton is keltic nordid

[celtogermaniciberian]

cate blanchett is not keltic nordid shes anglosaxon hallstatt + CM

tilda swinton is keltic nordid


Atlantid + CM

atlantid + bruenn

[Agrippa]

cate blanchett is not keltic nordid shes anglosaxon hallstatt + CM

tilda swinton is keltic nordid

Tilda Swinton's head is too high and broad, she seems to have some Borreby.

I'd say Blanchett is more Keltic Nordic in comparison.

Imelda Staunton seems to be too reduced for anything plain Cromagnoid.

[aherne]

Faelid (Kirsten Dunst):
http://www.gazette.uwo.ca/2005/01%20january/27/scans/11a%20kirsten%20dunst.jpg

Baltid (Lena Katina):
http://www.lenakatina.net/images/05_22_2010Lena_Katina.jpg

Uralic (one example from Norway, claimed as "Mongoloid" by some of you, the other from Hungary):
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8441/lindaberget.jpg
here is a hungarian woman who looks like her:
http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/tipumagyar.jpg
when mongoloid element is TRULY present, skin is MUCH darker:
http://images.askmen.com/imagesmusician/2004_may/alsou/alsou_150.JPG

[Agrippa]

when mongoloid element is TRULY present, skin is MUCH darker

That's just not true, because the admixture of the past can produce a light pigmented mixture-element which has still Mongoloid traits, like in this two women.

Here a blond Mongoloid girl from Mongolia (Europid admixture):
http://pastmist.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blond-mongol-girl.jpg

http://images.askmen.com/imagesmusician/2004_may/alsou/alsou_150.JPG

Morphologically this person is much more Europoid than the two Mongoloid influenced Lappoid-Eastbaltid variants.

[aherne]

That's just not true, because the admixture of the past can produce a light pigmented mixture-element which has still Mongoloid traits, like in this two women.

Here a blond Mongoloid girl from Mongolia (Europid admixture):
http://pastmist.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/blond-mongol-girl.jpg

http://images.askmen.com/imagesmusician/2004_may/alsou/alsou_150.JPG

Morphologically this person is much more Europoid than the two Mongoloid influenced Lappoid-Eastbaltid variants.
That blond Mongoloid girl is an exception. Mongoloids that entered in early contact with Europeans were swarthy and whenever they mated with Europeans they produced swarthier people. This is true for Turkic as well as Samoyedic admixture, even though none of these peoples were purely Mongoloid at any point in their history.

[Agrippa]

That blond Mongoloid girl is an exception. Mongoloids that entered in early contact with Europeans were swarthy and whenever they mated with Europeans they produced swarthier people. This is true for Turkic as well as Samoyedic admixture, even though none of these peoples were purely Mongoloid at any point in their history.

So what? Ever heard of selection?

Actually most light pigmented people started darker and became lighter THROUGH SELECTION!

That happened even often enough WITHOUT ADMIXTURE, do I need to tell that it is much easier if the complete package was transfered through mixture already?

Pigmentation is just one trait out of many, you can't overemphasize it the way you do, because it is in no way more reliable than other traits and in this particular case Mongoloid being always better defined by other traits, because Mongoloids and non-Mongoloids alike can appear in different shades, even more so, like mentioned, in mixed populations...

It is like talking about Negroid mixtures being "swarthier", yet some F2 mulattoes are blond + blue eyed too, but probably with more Negroid morphology and hair form f.e.

Mendelian laws after all...

[Aemma]

Can somebody post some pics of some Anglo-Saxon exemplars please? I'd like to think that I look a bit more feminine than Michael Caine. :P :D

[Nglund]

MrsNglund is Anglo-Saxon :heartbea: :D

[Davy Jones's Locker]

Can somebody post some pics of some Anglo-Saxon exemplars please? I'd like to think that I look a bit more feminine than Michael Caine.

The SNPA site lists Julie Andrews & Diane Sawyer as examples. Some women that may be of this type?

Honor Blackman

http://www.wearysloth.com/Gallery/ActorsB/1596.gif

Petula Clark

http://images.easyart.com/i/prints/rw/lg/2/3/Celebrity-Image-Petula-Clark-233644.jpg

Ann Coulter

http://www.foxnews.com/images/242900/0_61_320_AnnCoulter.jpg

Kam Heskin

http://images.zap2it.com/images/celeb-86852/kam-heskin.jpg

Tamzin Merchant

http://www.elbakin.net/plume/xmedia/fantasy/news/television/TDF/279376.jpg

Liz Phair

http://holyhullabaloos.typepad.com/.a/6a010535c131f6970c011570a43df5970c-800wi

Jessica Rowe

http://www.invigorate.com.au/images/speakers/jessica%20rowe.jpg

Sharon-Stone

http://celelog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Sharon-Stone.jpg

Denise van Outen

http://pinknewsblog.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/01/20/denisevanoutenblog.jpg

Naomi Watts.

http://nikadon.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/naomi-watts.jpg

[aureus]

Kam Heskin

http://images.zap2it.com/images/celeb-86852/kam-heskin.jpg




Cromagnoid ? dalofalid ?
It remind me berbers, even it will going to irritate with it more than one,
and more generally all cromagnoid or robust- bonary west european faces
(dont' know if "bonary" exist in english..)

[aureus]

Yep. Although she obviously has a tan. I guess her natural skintone is a few shades lighter, although some Asturians and (inner) Galicians can be quite dark pigmented, specially hair and eyes.

In some pics she slightly reminds me of Leila Bekhti. ;)

http://www.gradostudios.com/arte/PaulaEchevarria.jpg

You're really try to make you enemies !

[Agrippa]

Cromagnoid ? dalofalid ?
It remind me berbers, even it will going to irritate with it more than one,
and more generally all cromagnoid or robust- bonary west european faces
(dont' know if "bonary" exist in english..)

She is essentially Dalofaelid and that Dalofaelids can be similar to the light, more European Berberid variants, was noted in the past already.

Some even made no great distinctions, but those called many local variants of North Africa Nordic, Alpine and the like as well. I think most light Berberids which are left by now, still look more exotic though, individual exceptions, especially those mixed with more Europiform Mediterranid elements, excluded.

[mymy]

Is Nathalie Pechalat good example of Alpine type?
http://pekin.franceolympique.com/haut-niveau/images/athletes/5/75.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Nathalie_PECHALAT_Fabian_BOURZAT_Skate_Canada_2009 .jpg/220px-Nathalie_PECHALAT_Fabian_BOURZAT_Skate_Canada_2009 .jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfry5zdgaO1qc5l9co1_500.jpg
http://photography.ice-dance.com/2010-11/cache/2010TEB/Dance/Press/10TEB-FDPress-0022-PB-LC_450.jpg
http://im.sport.cz/446/134466-article-1sh4o.jpg
http://vancouver.franceolympique.com/haut-niveau/images/athletes/9/17389.jpg

[Agrippa]

Is Nathalie Pechalat good example of Alpine type?
http://pekin.franceolympique.com/haut-niveau/images/athletes/5/75.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Nathalie_PECHALAT_Fabian_BOURZAT_Skate_Canada_2009 .jpg/220px-Nathalie_PECHALAT_Fabian_BOURZAT_Skate_Canada_2009 .jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfry5zdgaO1qc5l9co1_500.jpg
http://photography.ice-dance.com/2010-11/cache/2010TEB/Dance/Press/10TEB-FDPress-0022-PB-LC_450.jpg
http://im.sport.cz/446/134466-article-1sh4o.jpg
http://vancouver.franceolympique.com/haut-niveau/images/athletes/9/17389.jpg

Profile shot could help, but I don't think so, she is too much influenced by a leptodolichomorphic element, presumably Atlanto-Nordid of some sort.

Alpinoid might be pred., but she is no good example in my opinion.

I would only change my mind if a profile shot would show her having a short-rounded head, typically Alpinoid, what I highly doubt.

[Mordid]

http://www.gracelandministries.com/dorota1.jpg

[mymy]

Serbian woman

Teodora Marcic

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2571/teodorakb3.jpg

Here you post photos of women what are good examples of some subrace, and you must know what subrace are they, and if they are good example.
Photos of pretty or beautiful women you send in "Beautiful women thread".

[leisitox]

I post my friend, I think is a very good example of a alpine women, if we compare to this example, is very similar :D.
If I can get a profile shot, I will post it, she have a round type forehead and a low root little concave nose.

[Pallantides]

Is the Danish model Freja Beha Erichsen a good example of a female Scandinavian Tydal type?
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb241/fashionising/hair/FrejaBehaErichsenhairstyle.jpghttp://www.robertvoltaire.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/freja_beha_erichsen1.jpghttp://fashionindie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/5e51b94c8dhVogue.jpg.jpg

[Agrippa]

I'm just not sure about some of her traits, probably she is Dalofaelid with Alpino-Lappoid influences.

Profile shot would be great, because she seems to, phenotypically, largely fit the bill, yet if fully, I'm uncertain.

Darkish Cromagnoid predominantely in any case and as a one term thing, Palaeatlantid fits the best.

[Pallantides]

http://images.fashionmodeldirectory.com/model/000000235976-freja_beha_erichsen-fullsize.jpghttp://images.fashionmodeldirectory.com/model/000000126374-freja_beha_erichsen-fullsize.jpg
http://images.askmen.com/galleries/celeb-profiles-model/freja-beha-erichsen/pictures/freja-beha-erichsen-picture-5.jpg

Info from FMD

First Name: Freja Beha
Last Name: Erichsen
Nationality: Danish
Hair Color: Light brown
Eye Color: Brown
Date of Birth: October 18, 1987
Place of Birth: Roskilde, Sjaelland, Denmark
Height: 5'10" ; 178cm
Measurements: (US) 32.5-25-34 ; (EU) 82.5-63.5-86.5
Dress Size: (US) 4 ; (EU) 34
Shoe Size: (US) 8 ; (EU) 38.5 ; (UK) 5.5

[Mordid]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_x8AYXcTGdhQ/TBuTYo948cI/AAAAAAAAH_o/fMQyvMTEmY8/s512/DSCF2703.JPG

[kwp_wp]

^I think she is more on Nordid side...

[Mordid]

^I think she is more on Nordid side...

:clap2::shakefist

[Mordid]

^I think she is more on Nordid side...

Kocham cie, Kwp. :ranger:

[Agrippa]

^I think she is more on Nordid side...

If having to put her in a standard category, either Nordid or Mediterranid, she surely falls into Nordid in my opinion, but still to call that phenotype Nordpontid makes sense, she is similar to some Western Nordatlantids too in my opinion.

[Arne]

http://unterhaltung.t-online.de/b/40/52/14/46/id_40521446/tid_da/index.jpg

http://www.schwurz.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/monica_lierhaus.gif


http://www.tikonline.de/_data/monica-lierhaus-gr.jpg

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/images/monica-lierhaus/1013596/2.jpg?format=format1

Keltic Nordic imho

http://www.trading-house.net/bilder/honorar-von-monica-lierhaus-wird-nicht-ueber-gebuehren-finanziert-624132_400_0.jpg

Looks very light celtic-swiss to me.http://www.klatschmagazin.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/1285755103-231.jpg

[Winterwolf]

You shouldn't have uploaded the second last picture showing her after her accident. I find it inappropriate.

For the non-Germans, she suffered a brain haemorrhage during a brain surgery and now is a disabled person.

[oyster]

Eastbaltid

Melania Medeleanu, Romanian TV presenter
http://www.allby.ro/userfiles/image/Melania-Medeleanu.jpg
http://ec.europa.eu/romania/eu_romania/perspective_europene/images/mai_melania_medeleanu.jpg

[Agrippa]

She is more Nordoid than Eastbaltid. Eastbaltid is only an (important) influence.

[vinlander]

yes, all the Dutch women shown as Nordid+CM (and some Corded) seem to be good examples of the so called "Anglo-Saxon" or "Frisian" Type, which Coon describes as Nordid mixed with Cromagnid.

[Mordid]

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/5239/z5239369X.jpg

[Osweo]

adequately labelled. :p
http://i2.listal.com/image/2275559/600full-ria-antoniou.jpg

[Pallantides]

What type is this Swedish model?
http://images.nymag.com/fashion/models/afohlin/afohlin_profile2.jpg
http://fashionstock.com/gallery/store_images/Top_Models_by_Name/Adina_Fohlin/Adina_Fohlin03.jpg
http://iconicmanagement.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/phhn.jpg
http://www.style.com/slideshows/fashionshows/S2005RTW/LVUITTON/DETAILS/00320f.jpg

[Agrippa]

Looks more archaic Cromagnid + Eastbaltid craniofacially - body doesn't fit into that, probably Nordid admixture present.

[Pallantides]

Good example of a 'Trønder' type?
http://www.blueart.dk/Filer/image/lene.jpg
http://www.musikplakaten.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/lene-johansen.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2518/4185693228_488b0ffdac.jpg

[Agrippa]

Highly progressive and generally Nordid in any case. But a slight Cromagnoid tendency likely, going somewhat in a Trønder direction

I'd say standard Nordid with textbook qualities, but inside of the Nordid spectrum a slight Trønder/Cromagnoid tendency.

In the 1st picture she looks fully textbook standard Nordid to me, in the second more Cromagnoid influenced, third in between.
Do you have more pictures, when she was younger, who she is or even moving pictures/movies?

[Pallantides]

She is a Danish journalist, found a few more pictures but none where she is younger:
http://www2.danskefilm.dk/person_billeder/3696.jpg
http://www.dr.dk/NR/rdonlyres/A04A8B49-44FB-45F1-9C33-875F11E71178/549432/LeneJohansenTV.jpg
http://b.bimg.dk/node-images/998/2/580x362-c/2998578-lene-johansen.jpg
http://blog.balder.org/billeder-blog/Lene-Johansen-Stig-Dalager-Deadline-2009-260.jpg

[billErobreren]

Good example of a 'Trønder' type?
http://www.blueart.dk/Filer/image/lene.jpg
http://www.musikplakaten.dk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/lene-johansen.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2518/4185693228_488b0ffdac.jpg

Holy Shit! This woman has my nose:eek:...mommy?:fwhat:

[Tony]

Holy Shit! This woman has my nose:eek:...mommy?:fwhat:

Imagine if also you had her boy's nose...

[safinator]

Yvonne Strahovski

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AxtH-ZM6Yfk/TZImR1GPA3I/AAAAAAAAABY/1jbpZDTTvTk/s1600/yvonne_strahovski_chuck.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1UVeDkK9zQM/TAUI7v1dziI/AAAAAAAADzI/JWQ6tYSgxio/s1600/Yvonne+Strahovski2.jpeg
http://wallpapers99.com/images/wallpaper/1024x768/Yvonne%20Strahovski_14756.jpg
http://images.askmen.com/photos/yvonne-strahovski/81368.jpg

[hajduk]

from Bulgaria, Maria Velkova, Pontid and slight dinarid?
http://hotnews.bg/uploads/tinymce/w35/maria_velkova.jpg
http://www.bgwallpapers.net/wallpapers/maria_velkova_from_sblusuk.jpg

[safinator]

from Bulgaria, Maria Velkova, Pontid and slight dinarid?
http://hotnews.bg/uploads/tinymce/w35/maria_velkova.jpg
http://www.bgwallpapers.net/wallpapers/maria_velkova_from_sblusuk.jpg
I think it's the other way round.
Dinarid with slight Pontid.

[Genome Retrograde]

Thanks for this thread I kind of was looking for a reference guide for females.:thumb001:

[The Alchemist]

I have a good question to ask: does every european subrace have particular teeth and lips?? In this site, i read someone who was talking about "typical teeth", so i'm wondering about it....

[leisitox]

In lips: have full lips are common in med and nordid subraces and no lips at all in CM derivates. The only I know about teeth is that there is shovel teeth in asian individuals, that all :D.

[The Alchemist]

In lips: have full lips are common in med and nordid subraces and no lips at all in CM derivates. The only I know about teeth is that there is shovel teeth in asian individuals, that all :D.

Pic, please :p
I think nordics in general have almost perfect teeths, and also other races, like southern americans (i directly observed them). I have narrow and quiet thin lips, i'd say small lips, but no "no lips" :D Somebody said it should be Borreby....

[leisitox]

example I think of full lips
http://www.thaimedicalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/attractive-femal-face.jpg
average face female
Well, CM tend to have small to no lips at all, That meant :wink
and a picture of shovel teeth
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FnTQNxzjKRM/TVHYC0UKCCI/AAAAAAAAAKc/EiBcRtUqYvg/s400/asian%2Bteeth.jpg
http://gigikawat.blogspot.com/2011/02/shovel-teeth.html

[The Alchemist]

example I think of full lips
http://www.thaimedicalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/attractive-femal-face.jpg
average face female
Well, CM tend to have small to no lips at all, That meant :wink
and a picture of shovel teeth
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FnTQNxzjKRM/TVHYC0UKCCI/AAAAAAAAAKc/EiBcRtUqYvg/s400/asian%2Bteeth.jpg
http://gigikawat.blogspot.com/2011/02/shovel-teeth.html
The girl's lips don't seem to be very full, i find them quiet normal everywhere in europe. I'd say, thin lips are like Kate Middleton's ones...mine are a bit fuller than hers. I don't understand very well the pic of the teeth, a frontal pic would be clearer i think ;) Anyway, these teeth seem to be "perfect", aren't they?? Plus, i think nordic teeth are usually very white and regular, do you agree?? Thank you :)

[leisitox]

If you see a frontal pic of shovel teeth you cant notice the difference between this and normal teeth.
I agree with nordic teeth being "perfect" :D.
Imagine the metallic part of a shovel and turned upside down. thats a shovel teeth.
I dont have images sorry.

[Agrippa]

example I think of full lips
http://www.thaimedicalnews.com/wp-content/uploads/attractive-femal-face.jpg
average face female
Well, CM tend to have small to no lips at all, That meant :wink
and a picture of shovel teeth
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FnTQNxzjKRM/TVHYC0UKCCI/AAAAAAAAAKc/EiBcRtUqYvg/s400/asian%2Bteeth.jpg
http://gigikawat.blogspot.com/2011/02/shovel-teeth.html

That's not the average face female, but the morph of an attractive sample, The unattractive morph looks different, namely like that:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16612&stc=1&d=1319273629

The average between sexy and unsexy is:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16613&stc=1&d=1319273679

But that's being morphed with just 4 female variants, one has to keep that in mind.

For comparing regional variants, these morphs about English people are recommended:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16614&stc=1&d=1319273736

East Anglia is the most attractive, being moderately Atlanto-Nordoid with Cromagnoid/Cromagno-Alpinoid tendencies.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16615&stc=1&d=1319273736

Pembroke is the most Cromagnoid, especially in a partly more coarse way, and the most unattractive sample.

[The Alchemist]

If you see a frontal pic of shovel teeth you cant notice the difference between this and normal teeth.
I agree with nordic teeth being "perfect" :D.
Imagine the metallic part of a shovel and turned upside down. thats a shovel teeth.
I dont have images sorry.

Yes, i understand what you say. I just noticed that among central/southern americans (like mestizos or something like this) they normally have ultra-white and perfect teeth, like nordics, too. They're lucky, and i'm jelaous of it!!! :D

[The Alchemist]

That's not the average face female, but the morph of an attractive sample, The unattractive morph looks different, namely like that:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16612&stc=1&d=1319273629

The average between sexy and unsexy is:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16613&stc=1&d=1319273679

But that's being morphed with just 4 female variants, one has to keep that in mind.

For comparing regional variants, these morphs about English people are recommended:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16614&stc=1&d=1319273736

East Anglia is the most attractive, being moderately Atlanto-Nordoid with Cromagnoid/Cromagno-Alpinoid tendencies.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=16615&stc=1&d=1319273736

Pembroke is the most Cromagnoid, especially in a partly more coarse way, and the most unattractive sample.
I think it's very subjective. For me, for exemple, the first girl posted isn't pretty at all, i find prettier the second one, even if maybe statistics say the contrary. Anyway, we weren't talking about beauty and attractiveness, just about some facial features.

[The Alchemist]

I meant the first girl posted by Leisitox (who is considered pretty), for me is not pretty at all. Sorry for the confusion.

[Tabiti]

Am I blind or all the virtual models of faces look almost the same?

[Mordid]

Am I blind or all the virtual models of faces look almost the same?

It's just you. :)

Pred. West Baltid/Cromagnoid, Polish model, Joanna Krupa:
http://www.trailershut.com/actor-images/joanna-krupa-7099.jpg
http://www.americantreat.com/mastcelebs/upload/joanna-krupa-14.jpg
http://www.hollywoodactress.org/albums/Joanna-Krupa/Joanna-Krupa-Picture-018.jpg

[The Alchemist]

It's just you. :)

Pred. West Baltid/Cromagnoid, Polish model, Joanna Krupa:
http://www.trailershut.com/actor-images/joanna-krupa-7099.jpg
http://www.americantreat.com/mastcelebs/upload/joanna-krupa-14.jpg
http://www.hollywoodactress.org/albums/Joanna-Krupa/Joanna-Krupa-Picture-018.jpg
I know her.....she's become famous cause of being a "saint"....ahahahahahahhaha :p

[Agrippa]

Between Cromagnid - Westbaltid with Nordoid tendencies. Approaches Kurganoid phenotypes.

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Very interesting thread. It made me to rethink some of the images of classifications I had in my mind.

[Mordid]

Fairly good example of Atlanto-Pontid:
http://www.musz.hu/musz_files/Image/Eb2010/magyar_csapat/bucz_eszter.jpg

[Sagitta Hungarica]

Even if the girl in the picture above is Hungarian, she has an Iberian-Atlantid look to her, quite interesting.

[Agrippa]

That's true, but those pictures are rather bad, because they have a distorted perspective, which is evident in her as well as the other sportspeople photographed that way.

Bad photographer.

[safinator]

Hallstatt elements?

Anya Barker


https://models.com/newfaces/i/2011/10/W9Y9997.jpg
https://models.com/newfaces/i/2011/10/W9Y0207.jpg
https://models.com/newfaces/i/2011/10/W9Y0301.jpg
https://models.com/newfaces/i/2011/10/W9Y9694.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_W-SJxBQpT2s/TLiY-njw1MI/AAAAAAAACL4/tl1hVWZM99c/s640/Anya_pol_5_B.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/FraKurka/Anya_pol_15.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/FraKurka/Anya_pol_13.jpg

[Agrippa]

She is pred. Nordid with slight Osteuropid influences. Overall very progressive traits.

[safinator]

She is pred. Nordid with slight Osteuropid influences. Overall very progressive traits.
Is the Osteuropid on females a favourable trait?

[Agrippa]

Is the Osteuropid on females a favourable trait?

Osteuropid is no trait, but a racial type or even types (Westbaltid/Baltid/Eastbaltid) which are characterised by a specific trait combination.

The single traits which are typical for Osteuropids can be more or less favourable in females, sometimes depending on the exact shape and degree, as well as context.

But to put it that way, especially in the mixture with more progressive types and/or atypical (for Baltoids) elongated growth patterns-refined features, Baltoid traits can be very favourable in females.

That's why a lot of light coloured female models are actually a Nordo-Baltoid mixes. Elongated-refined Nordoid basic outline + softer-rounder features of the Baltoid.

[Breedingvariety]

Is the Osteuropid on females a favourable trait?
No.

We should be careful of Osteuropid traits. They are bad omen.

Unfortunately I haven't met intellectually intriguing Sudeuropid individuals.

That's the beauty of Westeuropids. They avoid inadequate extremes.

But man i hate those Jewish westerners.

Maybe Germany has the moderation, however unusual that may sound.

But every moderation is still an extreme A.K.A. Hegelian dialectics.

[Mordid]

Osteuropid is no trait, but a racial type or even types (Westbaltid/Baltid/Eastbaltid) which are characterised by a specific trait combination.

The single traits which are typical for Osteuropids can be more or less favourable in females, sometimes depending on the exact shape and degree, as well as context.

But to put it that way, especially in the mixture with more progressive types and/or atypical (for Baltoids) elongated growth patterns-refined features, Baltoid traits can be very favourable in females.

That's why a lot of light coloured female models are actually a Nordo-Baltoid mixes. Elongated-refined Nordoid basic outline + softer-rounder features of the Baltoid.
Yep, a combination of Nordid and Ost-Europid come out quite harmonious. Their combination of Nordid and Ost-Europid or Ost-Europid like (similiar, but not the same) is what I associated with barbie type. This girl, from Southern Poland, might fit the combination well:
http://cdn1.asteroid.pl/c1/a.fotka.pl/074/930/74930960_500_s.jpg
Btw, when people think of Ost-Europid (with somewhat no knowledge in anthropology), they think of East Baltid. Gunther in his work acknowledge these six, however he regard them uttermost East-Baltids as typical Osteuropids, presumably due to political reasons as well. :ohwell:

[The Alchemist]

For my taste, i find sub-nordid or Borreby females very feminine and harmonious, with those youthful angel faces. My ideal is Doutzen Kroes:

[Mordid]

Pred. West Baltids:
http://www.claritaslux.com/girls/beautiful/eastern-european-girls.jpg
http://s45.radikal.ru/i110/1010/44/598c0d1ded83.jpg
http://s53.radikal.ru/i142/1011/50/9d4090d0532b.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6098/jancius.jpg

Pred. Borrebies:
http://i041.radikal.ru/1110/ca/46671376726e.jpg
http://s58.radikal.ru/i162/1110/85/4be9072bfcb8.jpg

Pred. Baltids:
http://sb.westfordk12.us/pages/6gweb/6gss/wtravel10/B/bmeg/images/polish%20woman.jpg
http://s59.radikal.ru/i166/1010/76/066f17c90b87.jpg

Pred. East Baltids:
http://s56.radikal.ru/i153/1010/e1/2a51b62f4b22.jpg
http://s004.radikal.ru/i206/1010/b6/ecb16283c4c3.jpg
http://s008.radikal.ru/i305/1011/1f/eee10cba7b3d.jpg


Pred. East Baltid (the one on left) and pred. Baltid (the one on back left), the difference is so clear:
http://s009.radikal.ru/i308/1106/c2/55da48cd7d3f.jpg


No.

We should be careful of Osteuropid traits. They are bad omen.

Unfortunately I haven't met intellectually intriguing Sudeuropid individuals.

That's the beauty of Westeuropids. They avoid inadequate extremes.

But man i hate those Jewish westerners.

Maybe Germany has the moderation, however unusual that may sound.

But every moderation is still an extreme A.K.A. Hegelian dialectics.
:icon_eek:

[Agrippa]

Yep, a combination of Nordid and Ost-Europid come out quite harmonious. Their combination of Nordid and Ost-Europid or Ost-Europid like (similiar, but not the same) is what I associated with barbie type. This girl, from Southern Poland, might fit the combination well:
http://cdn1.asteroid.pl/c1/a.fotka.pl/074/930/74930960_500_s.jpg

This woman is more Nordo-Cromagnoid though, with the Osteuropid tendencies being clearly Westbaltid or even Cromagnoid proper.


Btw, when people think of Ost-Europid (with somewhat no knowledge in anthropology), they think of East Baltid. Gunther in his work acknowledge these six, however he regard them uttermost East-Baltids as typical Osteuropids, presumably due to political reasons as well. :ohwell:

That might have played in, but they looked at the racial extremes in the typology. If you go for the extremes, the only pure Osteuropid is Eastbaltid.

[Mordid]

This woman is more Nordo-Cromagnoid though, with the Osteuropid tendencies being clearly Westbaltid or even Cromagnoid proper.


Yep, I think I just mentioned her being Nordid/Ost-Europid(Ost-Europid part is West Baltid). ;)

[safinator]

http://www.zapster.it/multimedia/2700/2637/big/Veronica_Olivier---58.jpg
http://images.virgilio.it/sg/cinema-tv2009/upload/ver/veronica_olivier.jpg
http://static.screenweek.it/2009/7/20/Amore-14-Veronica-Olivier-Raniero-Monaco-di-Lapio-Giuseppe-Maggio-08.jpg
http://images.virgilio.it/sg/cinema-tv2009/upload/ver/0000/veronica-olivier.jpg
http://image.excite.it/cinema/foto/Veronica-Olivier/60-veronica-olivier-051.jpg
http://static.vlogsfera.it/cinevlog.it/img/video/7455/14AmoreFedericoMocciaOlivierVeronicacondifilmilnuo vorecensione.jpg
http://www.ivid.it/fotogallery/imagesearch/images/olivier_veronica_attrice_003_jpg_iutv.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4453359045_a87f84a94e.jpg

[safinator]

http://www.caffenews.it/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/beatrice-borromeo.jpg
http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/63rd+Venice+Film+Festival+Opening+Ceremony+84dRN_K X4-1l.jpg
http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Cannes+Babel+Premiere+0lFxo4YFGDxl.jpg
http://cdn2.stbm.it/girlpower/gallery/foto_gallery/gossip/beatrice-borromeo/beatrice-borromeo.jpeg?-3600
http://cdn2.stbm.it/girlpower/gallery/foto_gallery/gossip/beatrice-borromeo/beatrice-borromeo-seta-bianca.jpeg?-3600

[Pallantides]

http://i.imgur.com/ATRs1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TvQ8V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/53R2S.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sqbhE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Iwka1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fkY6H.jpg


She is from Vestfold:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Norway_Counties_Vestfold_Position.svg/562px-Norway_Counties_Vestfold_Position.svg.png

[Sylvanus]

http://i.imgur.com/ATRs1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TvQ8V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/53R2S.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/sqbhE.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Iwka1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fkY6H.jpg


She is from Vestfold:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Norway_Counties_Vestfold_Position.svg/562px-Norway_Counties_Vestfold_Position.svg.png

>Silje Hvarnes from southeast Norway, more Lappid than the Lapps

Na and? The ethnicity and the phenotype might be different thing. She has obivously saami ancestry.

[Pallantides]

She has obivously saami ancestry.

She don't have Saami ancestry.

:rolleyes:


There are ethnic Saami who can look pure "Nordid" and there are ethnic Norwegians from areas that have been largly isolated and never encountered Saami who can look pure "Lappid"

[The Alchemist]

:eek: Oh my god!!! She's strange...she looks like a native american man.
Anyway, i think she's got a typical lappid skul, which is extremely broad (its circumference). To be honest, i've never seen anyone that way in my life.

[Sylvanus]

She don't have Saami ancestry.

:rolleyes:


There are ethnic Saami who can look pure "Nordid" and there are ethnic Norwegians from areas that have been largly isolated and never encountered Saami who can look pure "Lappid"


Of course! It is just genetic drift. :dielaughing: By the way show me a "pure" skandonordid among saamis.

You don't know truly that she has saami root or not for 200, 500, 1000 years retrospectively. Compare with this chick from Tirol, a similar quite isolated region. However she has obiviously hungarian root or maybe this traits originate from the Migration Period (Völkerwanderung) from huns or others.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39192

[Pallantides]

You're silly, come to Scandinavia and see for yourself and maybe you'd stop talking nonsense.

There are Norwegians who look like her who don't have Saami ancestry.
The Saami are not linked to one specific phenotype(Lappid) which is a claim made by scientific charlatans with an agenda to portray the Saami as alien and inferior.

[The Alchemist]

You're silly, come to Scandinavia and see for yourself and maybe you'd stop talking nonsense.

There are Norwegians who look like her who don't have Saami ancestry.
The Saami are not linked to one specific phenotype(Lappid) which is a claim made by scientific charlatans with an agenda to portray the Saami as alien and inferior.

I believe what you say, nobody knows it better than you, cause you live there and we don't.
To be honest, i've never seen anyone similar to the woman you posted (i think she's pretty "extreme"-the breadth of her skull), but i have to say i've always been in big cities and not in the little villages of the country.
I still haven't understood who Saami really are, but i guess it's maybe more a cultural label than a genetic feature.
Don't know, so i can't judge :)

[rhiannon]

You're silly, come to Scandinavia and see for yourself and maybe you'd stop talking nonsense.

There are Norwegians who look like her who don't have Saami ancestry.
The Saami are not linked to one specific phenotype(Lappid) which is a claim made by scientific charlatans with an agenda to portray the Saami as alien and inferior.

Pallantides, I think the Saami are fascinating, and definitely not alien or inferior:)

She has an Eastern look about her...very unusual looking, but pretty nonetheless:)

[Trun]

Bulgarian Pontid:
http://www.slava.bg/images/content_new/2008/04/14/2668/lora_georgieva2.jpg

Bulgarian Dinarid:
http://content.marica.bg/news/2009/09/0000002951_w480.jpg

Bulgarian Alpinid:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WQvoiV-Ce7Q/Tfs0UGNVMzI/AAAAAAAAZHc/2NnEcJADPRI/s1600/Kremena_4.jpg

Bulgarian East Med:
http://dariknews.bg/uploads/news_images/200904/photo_verybig_348322.jpg

My 4 favourite subraces :)

[Pallantides]

Pallantides, I think the Saami are fascinating, and definitely not alien or inferior:)


I agree, I also don't think people with "Lappid" phenotypes are alien or inferior either, but they were deemed as such by certain racial anthroplogists of the past.

[Sylvanus]

scientific charlatans with an agenda to portray the Saami as alien and inferior.

Don't call Agrippa as charlatan! :rolleyes:



The Saami are not linked to one specific phenotype(Lappid).


Well, Agrippa maybe an evil nazi nordicist, that he is austrWAIT german. The first hungarian expediton in North-Norway was in 1769 when the hungarian scientists described that the saamis' language is relative to hungarian. :coffee: Now you read the words of a finno-ugrian scientist in a finno-ugrian language about another finno-ugrian speaking population:

"A sötét színkomplexiójú rövid fejűek közül a finnugor nyelvcsaládba tartozó lappokra jellemző a rövid fejű lappid rassz. Ez is egy olyan eset, amikor a nép és a rassz fogalma nagyjából egybe esik."

"The dark pigmented brachycephal finno-ugrian speaking lapps are typically lappids. This is one of the cases where the ethnicity and the type mostly same."

Good morning, my friend!

Commonly hungarian professors are not skadites and/or nordicists. :thumb001:

[Pallantides]

I have Saami friends and I have also been to Troms and Finnmark and there is only a miniority of the Saami who I have encountered that can be described as having a "pure" "Lappid" phenotype.



With the charlatan comment I didn't refer to Agrippa but certain anthroplogists with something to prove who did research on the Saami during the heyday of Nordicism:rolleyes2:

[CelticViking]

Most of the texts in this field contain plates that are either wholly or predominately male, which can make it difficult for people who are new to the subject to correctly identify females. Let's make a collection of females who exemplify the various types.

Guidelines: Try to find individuals who are not mixed. Someone who is Alpinid + Med is an exemplar of neither. Also, try to get pictures that conform to the guidelines Stegura posted here (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1392). I know profiles can be difficult to find, but do try. :)

Anyway, here are a few to get us started:

Keltic Nordid: Cate Blanchett (Australia)

284 285 286 287

Alpinid: Christina Ricci (US)

288 289 290

Bruenn: Imelda Staunton (UK)

291 292 293


http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3027

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3026

[Agrippa]

I agree, I also don't think people with "Lappid" phenotypes are alien or inferior either, but they were deemed as such by certain racial anthroplogists of the past.

It depends, of course, on the standards applied.

But typical Lappids are surely not on the same developmental level as let's say peak types like Nordid, Mediterranid, Dinarid, etc., they are not as progressive and versatile.

That doesn't mean they have no qualities on their own or that they, individually, must be below the level of another type's variant, but collectively, as a group and evolutionary tendency, they are.

But again, being Lappid and being Sami must not be the same, as not every Swede is Nordid for example...

[Sagitta Hungarica]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3027

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=409&pictureid=3026

Where is Pontid, Noric, Dinaric, Danubian?

[Northern_Sun]

I believe you have to look at the genetics (mtDNA,Y-Chromosome) rather than the phenotype of someone to tell whether they belong to a particular group. Europeans have been migrating all over Europe for thousands of years anyway(look at Vikings).

This a recent photograph from the National Geographic magazine of a Sami girl.

http://jasonbeineke.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/01-ella-li-spik-670.jpg

Young Bjork.
http://pictures.bjorkish.net/young/bjorkish_young_06.jpg

Who is more Lappid?

[The Alchemist]

Bjork, i guess.

[Agrippa]

The question is not, who is more Lappid, because that's hard to tell in both pictures, both don't look typically Lappid, but who is more Mongoloid and that's obviously Bjork.

The Sami girl looks like Nordicised Alpinoid, something I observe quite often in the mixed ones and seems to bring them closer to Central European Alpinoids in the diluted form.

[Pallantides]

Björk have somewhat simillar phenotype as Mari Midtstigen, who is from southeast Norway:
http://images.fashionmodeldirectory.com/model/000000005072-Mari_Midtstigen-thumb.jpghttp://g.api.no/obscura/pub/298x1000r/01021/1163606385000_Nett_mari_1021605298x1000r.jpg
http://static.e24.no/drpublish/images/article/2011/03/14/20034526/1/small/85231.jpg

[Northern_Sun]

Scandinavians are very diverse in their appearance. Mari Midtstigen face shape is more oval than Bjork’s, but it would be hard to place her in just one category. I’ve seen Dutch people with similar nose shapes. My argument is that it would be hard to make an actual exemplar of different European phenotypes without some lines getting blurred.

[The Alchemist]

Scandinavians are very diverse in their appearance. Mari Midtstigen face shape is more oval than Bjork’s, but it would be hard to place her in just one category. I’ve seen Dutch people with similar nose shapes. My argument is that it would be hard to make an actual exemplar of different European phenotypes without some lines getting blurred.

Mari's nose is very germanic and dutch, too.
Doutzen Kroes (dutch model)

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZHnRbAK-EToXSK9ei4Ens3pM5dIK6Rgr2Jb1cw9a_V8T76oHYvvHpoSFs

If i'm not wrong, i think that very elongated face is common among dutchs (i don'r refer to Doutzen Kroes)

[Pallantides]

Tydal type
http://i.imgur.com/SJayS.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/K4uPK.jpg

[MM81]

Atlanto-med actress from Spain


Paz Vega

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p202/Apollo3000/paz-vega_09.jpg

http://luizcore.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/paz-vega-1.jpg


Pilar Lopez de Ayala

http://www.lavape.es/lapelikula/prota/imgs/pldqyala2.jpg

http://www.peliculas.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/pilar-lopez-de-ayala-en-la-ciudad-de-sylvia.jpg

http://www.quedepeliculas.com/cartel-200712/200712173501_31030700-pelicula-pilar-lopez-de-ayala.jpg

Spanish women are amazing :cool:

[Comte Arnau]

Spanish politician De Cospedal: Berid type.


http://www.tiempodehoy.com/var/tiempo/storage/images/media/imagenes-y-videos/tiempo-publica-el-album-familiar-de-maria-dolores-de-cospedal/249772-1-esl-ES/tiempo-publica-el-album-familiar-de-maria-dolores-de-cospedal_detalle_articulo.jpg

http://www.intereconomia.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/blog_post_imagen/22347/cck_images/maria_dolores_de_cospedal.jpg

http://www.laregion.es/imagenes/elementos/196_fotonoticia_20091030095713_800.jpg

[The Alchemist]

The following type of women is the one i like more, i find them so harmonious, a bit infantilized (Doutzen and Denise), but at the same time they have a "clean, pure" face, which is extremely feminine (the last woman is not infantilized, tough). I guess it typical of Nordid + Alpinid types:

Doutzen Kroes

http://cdn.1920x1200.net/posts/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/doutzen_kroes_1280_800_nov192009-500x315.jpg

Denise Richards
http://www.ellecanada.com/img/photos/biz/ELLECanada/gossip/EGP_BANG_1244192669300x300.jpg

Jessica Jane Clement
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/pc/Jessica+Jane+Clement+Ick1WdHxCTwm.jpg

What do they have in common, in your opinion?? I'm wondering why i like that kind of look so much...

[Comte Arnau]

The following type of women is the one i like more, i find them so harmonious, a bit infantilized (Doutzen and Denise), but at the same time they have a "clean, pure" face, which is extremely feminine (the last woman is not infantilized, tough). I guess it typical of Nordid + Alpinid types:

What do they have in common, in your opinion??


I can see the infantilized Alpinoid thing to some extent. But I don't really see the Nordid element in Richards.

http://oi42.tinypic.com/qwyexu.jpg

[The Alchemist]

I can see the infantilized Alpinoid thing to some extent. But I don't really see the Nordid element in Richards.

http://oi42.tinypic.com/qwyexu.jpg

Really?? Some weeks ago there was a classification thread on her and i remember that most people said she's somewhat nordid...Most members said she looks dutch, and i agree with it (tough i wouldn't know how to classiy her exactly).
I find those 3 women stunning anyway, and i still don't know why.

[mymy]

Could she be example for Alpinoid woman?

http://img.ahaonline.cz/img/18/article/1083029_libuska-safrankova-libuse-safrankova.jpg
http://img.fdb.cz/galerie/c/cf1cf43cba274ae7f413e864682b803516.jpg
http://static.markiza.sk/a501/image/file/7/0185/OMHkYd6d.jpg

[Comte Arnau]

Really?? Some weeks ago there was a classification thread on her and i remember that most people said she's somewhat nordid..

Maybe the pics showed her as a blond bombshell or something? That is why I preferred to post pics of her as a teen, before she was really famous, looking far more natural. Nordoid, perhaps. Nordid, I personally don't think so.

[The Alchemist]

Maybe the pics showed her as a blond bombshell or something? That is why I preferred to post pics of her as a teen, before she was really famous, looking far more natural. Nordoid, perhaps. Nordid, I personally don't think so.
Yeah, she uses to dye her hair blonde, but she's naturally light brunette (not dark, tough). I'm not that expert so i don't know exactly the difference between nordid and nordoid, but i think she definitely looks Dutch or even Scandinavian (maybe not the most typical one, but could pass). She's american after all ;)
Anyway i agree with your previous opinion, maybe all of those 3 women have an important infantilized alpinoid element (like me, but they're much better than me :D)

[The Alchemist]

Could she be example for Alpinoid woman?

http://img.ahaonline.cz/img/18/article/1083029_libuska-safrankova-libuse-safrankova.jpg
http://img.fdb.cz/galerie/c/cf1cf43cba274ae7f413e864682b803516.jpg
http://static.markiza.sk/a501/image/file/7/0185/OMHkYd6d.jpg

East alpinid?? Could be.

[The Alchemist]

^ Looks a lot like Christina Ricci.

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Whitney+Museum+American+Art+Gala+Studio+Party+-o4OMMJR6bSl.jpg

[mymy]

East alpinid?? Could be.


^ Looks a lot like Christina Ricci.


They are somehow similar... It's Libuše Šafránková, Czech actress.

[Prince Carlo]

AlpineMed - Dolcenera

http://www.info.fvg.it/wp-content/uploads/Dolcenera-d.jpg

http://cdn.blogosfere.it/festival/images/Dolcenera_IMG_9048_foto%20di%20Mattia%20Zoppellaro .jpg

http://www.dolcenera.it/foto_2011/Dolcenera_2011_17.jpg

http://www.halidon.it/uploads/images/4029758963623.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Dolcenera_2.jpg

[The Alchemist]

^ she looks very alpine-med, imo. Nobody more than her ;)

[Mordid]

They are somehow similar... It's Libuše Šafránková, Czech actress.
Good example of pred. East Alpinid/Balto-Alpinoid :D
http://www.owsiiz.edu.pl/fck_editor/userfiles/image/wilczewska.JPG

[Comte Arnau]

Stephanie Leonidas also seems quite Alpo-Med, with a Levantine touch.


http://i2.listal.com/image/250400/600full-stephanie-leonidas.jpg

http://www.tarracocinema.com/images/jmovies/img_fotos/Stephanie%20Leonidas.jpg

http://gallery.socionix.com/d/23026-1/leonidas2.jpg

[The Alchemist]

All the alpinid women i've seen in this thread are beautiful, imo. Who knows why ;D

[Mordid]

Good example of pred. East Alpinid/Balto-Alpinoid :D
http://www.owsiiz.edu.pl/fck_editor/userfiles/image/wilczewska.JPG
Another East Alpinid:
http://zs2rypin.pl/absolwenci/pliki/absolwenci/Rok%202006/Klasa3F/duze/Pawlowska_Aneta.jpg

[Comte Arnau]

Western Iberian

http://www.elespectador.com/files/images/201103/f26db1f0a05b52fbdc499ee45ba5afa0.jpg

[leisitox]

We have a new pred. East-Baltid example here :D(sorry, is tanned)

Profile
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/401697_3115732214704_1306434664_33278276_196656441 _n.jpg

3/4
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/579599_4036593792476_1210657479_3833143_1198799753 _n.jpg

Frontal
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/580039_4036603792726_1096904868_n.jpg

[Comte Arnau]

I'd say this woman can't be anything but Iberian.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6151/6166622578_5cd3bf4312_z.jpg

[Damião de Góis]

Western Iberian

http://www.elespectador.com/files/images/201103/f26db1f0a05b52fbdc499ee45ba5afa0.jpg

Hehe, i'm not sure if she is western iberian for classification. Her type is not too common i would say.

[Comte Arnau]

Hehe, i'm not sure if she is western iberian for classification. Her type is not too common i would say.

Hmmm, dunno if I'm convinced. ;)


Btw, let's compare her with the Berber Eurovision winner. :)

http://oi45.tinypic.com/347hd02.jpg

[Supreme American]

Hmmm, dunno if I'm convinced. ;)


Btw, let's compare her with the Berber Eurovision winner. :)

http://oi45.tinypic.com/347hd02.jpg

Cher?

[Damião de Góis]

The haircut is deceiving ;)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-7tepar1lJiQ/T4wxPQn53JI/AAAAAAAACEw/JKY_6ffGElk/s1600/loreen3.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Idsrvlp37OU/TGEDslUvsqI/AAAAAAAAAwA/ZEKtYh0gLTE/s1600/Teresa.Salgueiro00.jpg

[Comte Arnau]

The haircut is deceiving ;)

Aww, you cut the fun too early! :p

I thought they looked alike. :D

http://oi47.tinypic.com/2cnehis.jpg


Cher?

Well, Armeno-Cherokee-Germanics fall into a different region. I don't think she could be representative of anything.

Even before plastification, she looked quite different when natural (off-Caucasus look) and with makeup (Egyptianoid). :D

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Hx9QzayFvAA/Rxkgu1zEkdI/AAAAAAAAATw/bbiidhXGyi0/s400/cher%2Byoung.jpg
http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users16/ajaia/default/cher-early-years-young-photo--large-msg-121030757974.jpg

[Damião de Góis]

In any case, Teresa looks (a little) different from most other portuguese singers. And by this i don't necessarily consider it a bad thing as you know :D. I just don't think she is "western iberian". Or if she is, the others aren't.

[Comte Arnau]

Well, I see her very Western Iberian. Who do you consider a typical Western Iberian?

[Damião de Góis]

Well, I see her very Western Iberian. Who do you consider a typical Western Iberian?

From singers, Cristina Branco would probably be a better example.

http://tangocandango.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/cristina-branco.jpeg

[Comte Arnau]

^ Yeah, very good example too.

[CelticViking]

Bruenn: Imelda Staunton (UK)

291 292 293

I'll find a younger Brunn, it is only fair because the other types are younger woman. :)

Vicky Binns (UK)
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51792

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01003/Molly-Dobbs280_1003387a.jpg

Karen Gillan (UK)
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=45208

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/Karen_Gillan_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg/220px-Karen_Gillan_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg

[fergusgiselle]

It is good that people are posting pics of everyday women to give us all a better idea. The issues with using a lot of Hollywood actresses and also models as examples is that their lips and noses are fake. Moreover, they often have their cheeks puffed up with fillers. I noticed a lot of people often classify from skin colouring which is usually fake tan.

[Pegasus]

These two women seem to be very good examples of the Anglo-Saxon Nordic subtype:

Teresa Palmer:
http://beautiful-pics.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/teresa-palmer-20071029015230814_640w.jpg

Joanne K. Rowling:
http://www.viviano.de/images/img2,11,9,8,0,.jpg

[Damião de Góis]

Atlantid + West Med:

http://imagens.publico.pt/imagens.aspx/canal_videos/videoPortal/Images/201308/MartaPav%C3%A3o112098.jpg?tp=VIDEOS

[Pegasus]

Atlantid + West Med:

http://imagens.publico.pt/imagens.aspx/canal_videos/videoPortal/Images/201308/MartaPav%C3%A3o112098.jpg?tp=VIDEOS

Nothing atlantid or even med at her phenotype. I would classify her as subnordid with slight CM influences.

[Atlantic Islander]

1.
http://imageshack.com/a/img541/7076/t41m.jpg

2.
http://imageshack.com/a/img11/4493/ujsb.jpg

[Hungarian_master]

Alpinid woman from Hungary.

http://users2.ml.mindenkilapja.hu/users/baratok-kozt1/uploads/emma.jpg
http://www.kiskegyed.hu/lapokkepek/cikkek/33000/33838_marenec-fruzsina-220-11236-d0002A0856bba21479efe.jpg
http://static.origos.hu/s/img/i/1108/20110803marenecfr.jpg

[Hungarian_master]

Hungarian Baltid women.

http://www.magyarhirlap.hu/sites/default/files/field/image/2014/03/19/gal_kinga_1.jpg
http://www.kiskegyed.hu/lapokkepek/cikkek/12000/12195_79830-lilu01bi-d0001066C60340c4f6fb7.jpg
http://www.pophalo.hu/kepek/szereplok/1/1891/Udvaros.jpg
http://www.kiskegyed.hu/lapokkepek/kepgaleria/index/5000/index_5262_novodomszky-640.jpg

The woman in the last pitcure is West Baltid.

[DataType]

Borreby: Emma Bunton (England)

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Emma Bunton's look is very similar to Emma Stone. Here is a picture. Perhaps she is Borreby too?
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[DataType]

What is your call on Klüft then? Anyway it's supposed to be ridiculous, this old anthropometrical typology is outdated since we discovered DNA in the 50's, ya know...

Still, phenotypic expressions are lovely to behold when considering the millions of possibilities and generations behind them. Everyone is a reflection of events that affected their ancestors.

[DataType]

not quite.
rather dna seems to be a inferior technique.

Just as excact, but morphology is way faster and cheaper.. seems to require extensive skill tho!
Not unlike the discussion whether the american freedom army vs english overlords should be equipped with muskets or bow and arrow ;)


Especially considering that DNA is cluttered with all sorts of genes that might not even be activated in individual, that might not have been activated in a few hundred years, maybe more.

[DataType]

She is a Danish journalist, found a few more pictures but none where she is younger:
http://www2.danskefilm.dk/person_billeder/3696.jpg
http://www.dr.dk/NR/rdonlyres/A04A8B49-44FB-45F1-9C33-875F11E71178/549432/LeneJohansenTV.jpg
http://b.bimg.dk/node-images/998/2/580x362-c/2998578-lene-johansen.jpg
http://blog.balder.org/billeder-blog/Lene-Johansen-Stig-Dalager-Deadline-2009-260.jpg

She has prominent cheekbones. Baltid maybe?

[safinator]

http://www.sternfannetwork.com/xen/index.php?attachments/image-jpg.178831/

Extremely harmonious and feminine body type and face combo.

How would you classify?

[Ctwentysevenj]

Italian model
http://media.tvblog.it/l/le-/le-foto-delle-nuove-ereditiere-de-leredita-con-carlo-conti/big_BenedettaMazza_mg_2109.jpg

[Hungarian_master]

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/5239/z5239369X.jpg

He gay?

[Ophelia]

Hello :) What race is this face?

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[Linebacker]

ass

[Hungarian_master]

Hello :) What race is this face?

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Cromagnoid (Faelid or Brünn).

[Ophelia]

Thank you. :) Am I Cromagnoid too? We look quite similar.
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[Hungarian_master]

Thank you. :) Am I Cromagnoid too? We look quite similar.
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Yes, you are a Cromagnoid (CM).

[Ophelia]

It means I'm Faelid, right? Thank you very much! :)

[Hungarian_master]

It means I'm Faelid, right? Thank you very much! :)

Maybe, but you could West Baltid, too.

[Hungarian_master]

Dinarid woman from Slovakia:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=61499&d=1472045194

Norid woman from Austria:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=61501&d=1472045268

Hallstatt Nordid woman from Germany:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=61500&d=1472045233

[Ophelia]

Maybe, but you could West Baltid, too.

Maybe I'm West Baltid, but people say I look German O.o That's strange.
I know it's off-topic. I'm sorry!

[Ülev]

nothing germanic here

[bloomingwillow]

Sorry if this is a bit unrelated, but could someone tell me what I am? As you can see I'm a Serbian woman, but I've always gotten comments about how I don't look like I'm from here. Many people told me that I have a very unusual face, most often comments being that my face would be the ideal in times of the Italian renaissance, other telling me that I look German, and some even saying that I have some East Asian characteristics. When they wouldn't compare me to ehnicities, people would say that I have a bit of an alien-like face structure, or mouse-like. I can't upload my photo but here's a quick summary of my facial features (excuse my unscientific terminology):
The face shape is much like an upside-down triangle, but it's long: the forehead is wide and tall, the chin long but small and narrow. The forehead is protruding and the profile face angle is wide. Cheek bones are very, very prominent, round and high. Lips are heart shaped, with the upper lip protruding. Nose is very short and pointy, quite mouse-like. Brow ridge somewhat prominent, natural eyebrows are thick, have a high arch and are very light compared to the hair, almost blond. Eyes are somewhat big and set deep in the skull, they have a tear-like shape, the ends go downwards; lower lid or rather tearbag is prominent, the upper lid not so much. Long lashes and hazel coloured iris. The skin is extremely pale (porcelain pale), but it can also tan like crazy, without ever getting burns. Hair is brown with a red tint; it can go from very dark in the winter to light and almost ginger-like in the summer. And this is probably irrelevant, but people have always said I have the smallest ears they've ever seen

[Loki]

Sorry if this is a bit unrelated, but could someone tell me what I am? As you can see I'm a Serbian woman, but I've always gotten comments about how I don't look like I'm from here. Many people told me that I have a very unusual face, most often comments being that my face would be the ideal in times of the Italian renaissance, other telling me that I look German, and some even saying that I have some East Asian characteristics. When they wouldn't compare me to ehnicities, people would say that I have a bit of an alien-like face structure, or mouse-like. I can't upload my photo but here's a quick summary of my facial features (excuse my unscientific terminology):
The face shape is much like an upside-down triangle, but it's long: the forehead is wide and tall, the chin long but small and narrow. The forehead is protruding and the profile face angle is wide. Cheek bones are very, very prominent, round and high. Lips are heart shaped, with the upper lip protruding. Nose is very short and pointy, quite mouse-like. Brow ridge somewhat prominent, natural eyebrows are thick, have a high arch and are very light compared to the hair, almost blond. Eyes are somewhat big and set deep in the skull, they have a tear-like shape, the ends go downwards; lower lid or rather tearbag is prominent, the upper lid not so much. Long lashes and hazel coloured iris. The skin is extremely pale (porcelain pale), but it can also tan like crazy, without ever getting burns. Hair is brown with a red tint; it can go from very dark in the winter to light and almost ginger-like in the summer. And this is probably irrelevant, but people have always said I have the smallest ears they've ever seen

Welcome to the forum! Hmm... it might be a bit difficult to work just on a text description, it would be more useful to judge from a picture. But maybe some members can give it a go. :)

[Sealin]

When I search over the Internet for certain types, I just see old pictures of man (so, I'm happy that this topic exists), which shows skulp-profile-face. When I look at it, it doesn't matter if it is Alpinid or Armenoid, Dinaric, Pontid, Nordid etc., with all of my respect, but none of them are 'attractive' looking. I just want to see more and variatic pictures of people as example. Could someone post an fully Armenoid type person?

[Xacal]

Mediterranid (Small): Olivia Hussey (Argentina)

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Atlantid + Alpine