Is it possible for 23andMe to get haplogroups wrong?

[barbatus]

Is it possible for 23andMe to get it wrong? What are the chances of this happening? My haplogroup according to 23andMe is r1b1b2a1a2c, which of course, is weird for my ethnic group. It really only has it's highs in the Spanish Pyrenees. It's almost absent in most of Europe outside Iberia and even in most of Iberia it is relatively low outside Basque country and Catalonia. It seems quite rare. This is really odd. I've had several people now point out how odd it is and even I think it's weird. So, did they fuck up?

[alfieb]

Subclade, maybe. Haplogroup, not likely.

[barbatus]

Subclade, maybe. Haplogroup, not likely.
Sorry, that's what I meant, subclade. Like, it's the R1b1b2a1a2c that makes no sense to me. It's just... makes no sense

[Guapo]

Sorry, that's what I meant, subclade. Like, it's the R1b1b2a1a2c that makes no sense to me. It's just... makes no sense

I thought you already did your y-dna at ancestry.com or whatever

[barbatus]

I thought you already did your y-dna at ancestry.com or whatever
I just don't get it. How can I have R1b1b2a1a2c? That's Spanish.

[Guapo]

I just don't get it. How can I have R1b1b2a1a2c? That's Spanish.

R-M167?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Netherlands

[barbatus]

I thought you already did your y-dna at ancestry.com or whatever
It was FTDNA, not ancestry.com. I don't think you can even buy ancestry.com tests in Canada, I think it's only America. Anyways, I'm just saying... I don't get it.

[barbatus]

R-M167?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Netherlands

Yes, it's the same thing. It's the same subclade, different terminology

[Faklon]

I just don't get it. How can I have R1b1b2a1a2c? That's Spanish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Netherlands

[Guapo]

It was FTDNA,

How many markers

[Pjeter Pan]

I feel ya bro xD

Do they have a help center I can call xD

[Guapo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Netherlands

This ^

But if you did 25 or 37 marker test on Ftdna i'd take that more seriously.

[barbatus]

This ^

But if you did 25 or 37 marker test on Ftdna i'd take that more seriously.

It was 12. But what does that matter? 23andMe said R1b1b2a1a2c.

[barbatus]

I feel ya bro xD

Do they have a help center I can call xD

Wow, yours is even stranger than mine. The percentages of Albanians with that haplogroup must be insanely low.

[Guapo]

It was 12. But what does that matter? 23andMe said R1b1b2a1a2c.

What is your y-dna on ftdna?? Sometimes ftdna's marker tests are more accurate than 23andme's y-dna tests due to snps that are not tested at 23andme.

[Guapo]

Wow, yours is even stranger than mine. The percentages of Albanians with that haplogroup must be insanely low.

He is a good example, his subclade is probably "Venetian" or whatever but 23andme doesnt test certain snps for downstream subclades. He needs to do a 25 or 37 marker ftdna test to be accurate

[Guapo]

You're confusing in my opinion, barbatus. Who were your first step matches on ftdna? were they Spaniards? share if you want. Up to you.

[Reith]

It is really an Celto-Iberian marker I think. Celts were in control of most of Europe at a time. Could very easily be a surviving Celt in Dutch lands.

[Jackson]

Just because it's very rare it doesn't mean it's incorrect, just a few people have a haplogroup that isn't run-of-the-mill for their population. It has been found in people from northern Europe before, though - in at least one case each in Dutch, Belgians, French, English and Germans. So it is there, but very minor.

[Longbowman]

DNA doesn't lie.

[gold_fenix]

your mtdna too it is common in Iberia not? You seem to have French ancestry , perhaps come from they and probably comes that haplogroup from Pireneus