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Moshe
04-11-2010, 11:52 PM
Do you think Jews are European(which ofcourse we are)? Id like to hear reasons for and against.

Alea iacta est:thumb001:

The Lawspeaker
04-11-2010, 11:53 PM
No. Israel is not a European country, Judaism is not a European religion, Hebrew is not a European language. What more would you want?

Puddle of Mudd
04-11-2010, 11:55 PM
If you're European, why don't you live in Europe?

Beorn
04-11-2010, 11:56 PM
Do you think Jews are European(which ofcourse we are)?

Jews born in Europe with good old European DNA inside them are European.

The Lawspeaker
04-11-2010, 11:58 PM
Jews born in Europe with good old European DNA inside them are European.
No they aren't.

Murphy
04-12-2010, 12:01 AM
No, Jews are not European. Europeans and Jews belong to the same race for the most part. But it isn't race that makes a European.

Stefan
04-12-2010, 12:02 AM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14424

I guess the poll makes this thread different though.

Beorn
04-12-2010, 12:02 AM
No they aren't.

My penis says they are. So there.


http://kalafudra.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/rachel-weisz.jpg

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 12:04 AM
My penis says they are. So there.


http://kalafudra.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/rachel-weisz.jpg



Ah :) The eternal "she gets my penis hard- argument". A guaranteed hit on any forum. :thumb001:
Yes.. she is pretty but she isn't European, mate. I am sorry.

Murphy
04-12-2010, 12:05 AM
My penis says they are. So there.


http://kalafudra.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/rachel-weisz.jpg


http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2618/rachelweiszmaxim.jpg

She really is beautiful.

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 12:08 AM
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2618/rachelweiszmaxim.jpg

She really is beautiful.
She is (definitely dateable if one wouldn't know her background). But she isn't one of ours. :)

Beorn
04-12-2010, 12:09 AM
Yes.. she is pretty but she isn't European, mate. I am sorry.

Born in London, England. Her mother is a Catholic Austrian/Italian.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 12:09 AM
More famous Jews:)

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8619/zacefron17again1.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5122/scarlettjohanssoninsupe.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4097/jerryspringer.jpg
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9158/gwynethisdirtycc.jpg
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9554/davidbeckhamy.jpg
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3985/adamsandlerqjpreviewth.jpg

Murphy
04-12-2010, 12:09 AM
She is (definitely dateable if one wouldn't know her background). But she isn't one of ours. :)

Do not worry my dear Asega. I am not going to run away with her :p. I am just admiring her beauty.

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 12:11 AM
Born in London, England. Her mother is a Catholic Austrian/Italian.
Very well. Then she is half European. What exactly was that word again ? It started off with an m..

Murphy
04-12-2010, 12:13 AM
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5122/scarlettjohanssoninsupe.jpg

Not very attractive. Though her breasts might make the cut.. though I am not a fan of large breats generally.


http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3985/adamsandlerqjpreviewth.jpg

Sandler is a funny guy.

Baron Samedi
04-12-2010, 12:17 AM
Yeah, I think many Ashkenazim Jews are European, they have intermixed so much.

Pallantides
04-12-2010, 12:19 AM
Don't we already have a thread like these, some Jews are genetically European, others are not, of course the original or true Jews were semitic.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 12:20 AM
Yeah, I think many Ashkenazim Jews are European, they have intermixed so much.

- Exactly. Myself i have green eyes. And Jewish contribution to European culture and history cannot be ignored.

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 12:21 AM
Genetics alone does not make one European I'm afraid.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 12:25 AM
Genetics alone does not make one European I'm affraid.

- 90% of inventions and liteature in Europe was made by Jews, isnt that enough?

Pallantides
04-12-2010, 12:26 AM
- 90% of inventions and liteature in Europe was made by Jews, isnt that enough?

Err... I doubt that.

Murphy
04-12-2010, 12:26 AM
- Exactly. Myself i have green eyes. And Jewish contribution to European culture and history cannot be ignored.

As Asega said, genetics is not enough, and the Jewish contribution has always been against European culture and society.

Murphy
04-12-2010, 12:28 AM
Err... I doubt that.

I really fucking doubt it.

Beorn
04-12-2010, 12:29 AM
- 90% of inventions and liteature in Europe was made by Jews, isnt that enough?

Now we are sure you're a troll. So, come on, who are you? Spaniard Truth?

Pallantides
04-12-2010, 12:31 AM
I really fucking doubt it.

Yeah I bet it's more like 5% or less
lieing and making things up is not in you're best interest Moshe, espically not here. :coffee:


*cough* the lieing Jew.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 12:35 AM
Irrelevant accusations and derailment of thread. I am not impressed. And it doesnt matter what you people think, when facts are 90% of literature and science in Europe Jews were behind. Evidence is clear as the sky-line in Israel on a hot summer day, i suggest you people open a book and see for yourselfs!

And how many Jews have gotten Noble prices and awards for contributions? Hmm, you should know this.

Murphy
04-12-2010, 12:37 AM
Now we are sure you're a troll. So, come on, who are you? Spaniard Truth?

Sadie, obviously.

Murphy
04-12-2010, 12:39 AM
Irrelevant accusations and derailment of thread.

You are the one who derailed the thread you idiot.


I am not impressed.

Nor are we.


And it doesnt matter what you people think, when facts are 90% of literature and science in Europe Jews were behind. Evidence is clear as the sky-line in Israel on a hot summer day, i suggest you people open a book and see for yourselfs!

I tell you what, prove it.


And how many Jews have gotten Noble prices and awards for contributions? Hmm, you should know this.

Obama got a Nobel Prize for being elected president. I assure you my friend, it is far from a prestigious award. It is entirely political in nature.

Beorn
04-12-2010, 12:41 AM
...when facts are 90% of literature and science in Europe, Jews were behind.

Oh, but for a comma. :D

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 12:43 AM
No, not really since Jews belongs to the Semite category which did not originate in Europe in recent history.

Puddle of Mudd
04-12-2010, 12:43 AM
This thread proves that Jewish supremacists are just as dumb as any other supremacist.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 12:46 AM
This thread has been derailed by anti-semties with fascist motives. I see no further point in trying to discuss if personal insults are continiued hurled out at me.

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 12:47 AM
This thread has been derailed by anti-semties with fascist motives. I see no further point in trying to discuss if personal insults are continiued hurled out at me.
Very well. Nick off then.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 12:48 AM
This thread has been derailed by anti-semties with fascist motives. I see no further point in trying to discuss if personal insults are continiued hurled out at me.

Here we go with ramblings of how anti-semite we are. Thank you for proving that you are no different from other Jews. :thumbs up

Beorn
04-12-2010, 12:48 AM
This thread has been derailed by anti-semties with fascist motives.

I'm not anti-Semitic you hooked nose Kyke

Moshe
04-12-2010, 12:50 AM
This thread proves that Jewish supremacists are just as dumb as any other supremacist.

- No this thread proves that Holocaust might happen again as history has a habit of repeating itself.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 12:50 AM
I'm not anti-Semitic you hooked nose Kyke

- Whats wrong with a hooked nose? You get this from Nazi propaganda?

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 12:50 AM
- No this thread proves that Holocaust might happen again as history has a habit of repeating itself.

http://www.wvwnews.net/images/teaser/jews_whining.jpg

Murphy
04-12-2010, 12:51 AM
This thread has been derailed by anti-semties with fascist motives. I see no further point in trying to discuss if personal insults are continiued hurled out at me.

You say fascist as if it is a bad thing..

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 12:53 AM
Isn't Israel a fascist state? Considering how it is a racist Jew-only nation that daily bombs non-Jews.

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 12:53 AM
Yes. Countless Europeans also sacrificed themselves in order to protect the Jews. Which would include ancestors of mine.
In the Netherlands it was a lost fight (particularly because there is just nowhere to hide- we have no wilderness and an incredibly well organized civil registry) but for instance the Danes managed to save the majority of your kin.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 12:55 AM
Yes. Countless Europeans also sacrificed themselves in order to protect the Jews. Which would include ancestors of mine.
In the Netherlands it was a lost fight (particularly because there is just nowhere to hide- we have no wilderness and an incredibly well organized civil registry) but for instance the Danes managed to save the majority of your kin.

Oh yeah, the Bulgarians have been noted somewhat because our Tsar at the time wouldn't turn over the Jews to the Germans. However our Youth organization and Ratnik rounded some Jews anyhow.

Beorn
04-12-2010, 12:57 AM
- Whats wrong with a hooked nose? You get this from Nazi propaganda?


http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x93/Donmgcjuan32/jewish.jpg



My science is infallible.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 01:05 AM
http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/Jewparrot.jpg
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesC/capt4.jpg

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:10 AM
http://www.wvwnews.net/images/teaser/jews_whining.jpg

- This aint funny, unless your Anti-Semitic.

Cynodon
04-12-2010, 01:10 AM
European Jews are Europeans.



Isn't Israel a fascist state? Considering how it is a racist Jew-only nation that daily bombs non-Jews.

Israel can be condemned for its policies in Gaza, but it's certainly not a fascist state. It's a highly democratic society, even too much, since extremist parties are well-represented thanks to proportionality in the the Knesset, often highjacking coalitions' political program. BTW, ever heard of Arab Israelis?

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:11 AM
http://www.zionism-israel.com/ezine/Jewparrot.jpg
http://www.rense.com/1.imagesC/capt4.jpg

- Yeah, yeah, and your favorite book is the Protocols of Zion?

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 01:12 AM
- This aint funny, unless your Anti-Semitic.

Can someone please call the waaaaahbulance?

http://www.forward.com/workspace/assets/images/articles/ambulance-021810.jpg

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:12 AM
European Jews are Europeans.




Israel can be condemned for its policies in Gaza, but it's certainly not a fascist state. It's a highly democratic society, even too much, since extremist parties that are well-represented by proportionality in the Knesset often highjack coalitions' political program. BTW, ever heard of Arab Israelis?

- Finally someone with a sensible answer. Thank you.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 01:12 AM
- Yeah, yeah, and your favorite book is the Protocols of Zion?

To the contrary, I've never read the protocols because I simply don't care.

Murphy
04-12-2010, 01:13 AM
- Finally someone with a sensible answer. Thank you.

Oh yes, because if he agrees with you, he is sensible. If he disagreed with you, he would be a fascist anti-semite. Fucking brilliant logic.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 01:15 AM
Oh yes, because if he agrees with you, he is sensible. If he disagreed with you, he would be a fascist anti-semite. Fucking brilliant logic.

That's how things roll in Jewniverse.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:21 AM
To the contrary, I've never read the protocols because I simply don't care.

- So you read Mein Kampf perhaps?

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:22 AM
Oh yes, because if he agrees with you, he is sensible. If he disagreed with you, he would be a fascist anti-semite. Fucking brilliant logic.

- He agrees with common sense unlike people resorting to Anti-semitic remarks.
About time some of you show some more respect i think!:mad:

Murphy
04-12-2010, 01:24 AM
- He agrees with common sense unlike people resorting to Anti-semitic remarks.
About time some of you show some more respect i think!:mad:

Excuse me, but why should I show respect to a troll who has only the intention of being an annoying little arsehole in mind during his current presence here on this forum?

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 01:24 AM
Mein Kampf?
It's here on the forum. Right next to that Jewish best-seller that (until now) killed some 70 to 100 million people. Das Kapital.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:25 AM
That's how things roll in Jewniverse.

-

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/3435/hitlerangry.jpg

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 01:25 AM
- So you read Mein Kampf perhaps?

Why are you obsessed about the material I read? Are you so horrified of what people can read? Deal with it, this is not a fascist world where you can only feed people specific things you want people to know about and not know about. I'm not an anti-Semite yet you keep calling me one because I disagree with your views, you're just another crybaby in a row of Jew crybabies.

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 01:27 AM
Why are you obsessed about the material I read? Are you so horrified of what people can read? Deal with it, this is not a fascist world where you can only feed people specific things you want people to know about and not know about. I'm not an anti-Semite yet you keep calling me one because I disagree with your views, you're just another crybaby in a row of Jew crybabies.
Hear hear !

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:27 AM
Why are you obsessed about the material I read? Are you so horrified of what people can read? Deal with it, this is not a fascist world where you can only feed people specific things you want people to know about and not know about. I'm not an anti-Semite yet you keep calling me one because I disagree with your views, you're just another crybaby in a row of Jew crybabies.

- Btw, you are Southern European so if i am not white neither are you:cool:

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 01:28 AM
- Btw, you are Southern European so if i am not white neither are you:cool:
But he is European and part of the family.. you are not :thumbs up

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:32 AM
But he is European and part of the family.. you are not :thumbs up

- I have seen reliable genetical research proving Southern Europeans have more semitic ancestry than Azhkenazi Jews. Chew on that.

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 01:33 AM
- I have seen reliable genetical research proving Southern Europeans have more semitic ancestry than Azhkenazi Jews. Chew on that.
Ooh yeah ? Let me guess.. University of Jerusalem ?

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 01:36 AM
- Btw, you are Southern European so if i am not white neither are you:cool:


Subrace: ArmenidArmenid: http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/lundracesfig9.jpg

How's that convex nose working out for you? :D

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:37 AM
Ooh yeah ? Let me guess.. University of Jerusalem ?

- Yes university professors there dont smoke pot.

It also revealed many Northern/Central Europeans cluster a lot with mongoloids and near Eastern people.

So Azkenazi Jews are on paper more European than most Europeans, except Basques and Scandinavians.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:37 AM
Armenid: http://carnby.altervista.org/immagini/lundracesfig9.jpg

How's that convex nose working out for you? :D

- Its fine. I got a large booger for you;)

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 01:38 AM
- Yes university professors there dont smoke pot.

It also revealed many Northern/Central Europeans cluster a lot with mongoloids and near Eastern people.

So Azkenazi Jews are on paper more European than most Europeans, except Basques and Scandinavians.

Citing UoJ as a source is enough to discredit your bullshit statement. :thumbs up

Electronic God-Man
04-12-2010, 01:40 AM
So Azkenazi Jews are on paper more European than most Europeans, except Basques and Scandinavians.

That's not true at all. And Israeli universities usually try to prove that Jews ARE very Semitic in order to bolster their claims to Israel.

See you in the "Are Jews Middle-Eastern?" thread. :D

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 01:41 AM
I do read this edition of National Lampoon though.

http://rexcurry.net/swastika-sex-girls2.JPG

Ulf
04-12-2010, 01:46 AM
http://thepeoplescube.com/red/richedit/upload/2k42e6e364b3.gif

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:49 AM
Citing UoJ as a source is enough to discredit your bullshit statement. :thumbs up

- Probably has more credibility than the Kazakhstani universities of Balkan;)

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:50 AM
That's not true at all. And Israeli universities usually try to prove that Jews ARE very Semitic in order to bolster their claims to Israel.

See you in the "Are Jews Middle-Eastern?" thread. :D

- Yeah but many agree that quite many Jews have much European genetics. I consider myself one of the European Jews.

I don't bother about that thread.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:51 AM
http://thepeoplescube.com/red/richedit/upload/2k42e6e364b3.gif

- You say this instead of offering support and sympathy? Do you have any idea of how much we have suffered?

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 01:52 AM
- Probably has more credibility than the Kazakhstani universities of Balkan;)
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd336/fr_slingsandarrows/violin-011.gif

Moshe
04-12-2010, 01:52 AM
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd336/fr_slingsandarrows/violin-011.gif

- No, turbofolk aint my style.

Cynodon
04-12-2010, 01:53 AM
It also revealed many Northern/Central Europeans cluster a lot with mongoloids and near Eastern people.

So Azkenazi Jews are on paper more European than most Europeans, except Basques and Scandinavians.

Let's not exaggerate, Moshe. Ashkenazim are Europeans, no more, no less than the people they lived with in Central and Eastern Europe for so many centuries.

Basques don't have any "Euro bonus" either, they were just a very down-to-earth peasant Western European culture. They just speak (a minority of them) a unique pre-IE language, that's all.

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 01:53 AM
- You say this instead of offering support and sympathy? Do you have any idea of how much we have suffered?
Who gives a fuck ? Let's look at the Russians: 30 million are dead. They aren't bitching about it. More then 5 million Germans dead (more then 11 million over the course of one century)- 12 million dragged from their house.

Ulf
04-12-2010, 01:54 AM
- You say this instead of offering support and sympathy? Do you have any idea of how much we have suffered?

http://traphick.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/race-card-wsdpg.jpg

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 01:54 AM
Let's not exaggerate, Moshe. Ashkenazim are Europeans, no more, no less than the people they lived with in Central and Eastern Europe for so many centuries.

Basques don't have any "Euro bonus" either, they were just a very down-to-earth peasant Western European culture. They just speak (a minority of them) a unique pre-IE language, that's all.

Yes but the gypsies have also lived in Europe for many centuries -- should we start considering them European?

Cynodon
04-12-2010, 01:57 AM
Yes but the gypsies have also lived in Europe for many centuries -- should we start considering them European?

We should, as badly-assimilated as they are.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 02:00 AM
We should, as badly-assimilated as they are.

No, I don't want to assimilate them and their shitty genes. They should be sent back to whatever hellhole they spruce from.

The Khagan
04-12-2010, 02:00 AM
This shit again? Seriously?

Electronic God-Man
04-12-2010, 02:00 AM
We should, as badly-assimilated as they are.

Then WTF is the criteria for being European?? Not ancestry, not culture, not heritage...???

Simply living on that area of land? Hell, being European is easy anybody can do it.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 02:02 AM
http://traphick.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/race-card-wsdpg.jpg

- Yes laugh like they did in the 1930s. Oyvey history repeats itself on this ignorance.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 02:02 AM
- Yes laugh like they did in the 1930s. Oyvey history repeats itself on this ignorance.


Waah, Hitler that, Hitler this, fucking grow up.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 02:03 AM
Then WTF is the criteria for being European?? Not ancestry, not culture, not heritage...???

Simply living on that area of land? Hell, being European is easy anybody can do it.

- As a matter of fact, yes.

Being European is not reserved for just some people, so stop acting like its an elitist club!

Moshe
04-12-2010, 02:05 AM
Waah, Hitler that, Hitler this, fucking grow up.

- Then stap being anti-Semitic!!

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 02:05 AM
- Then stap being anti-Semitic!!

I'm sorry if I don't agree to every whim of yours. If that makes me an anti-Semite then so be it.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 02:06 AM
I'm sorry if I don't agree to every whim of yours. If that makes me an anti-Semite then so be it.

- How can you take so lightly on being Anti-Semitic? Must prove you are!!:mad:

Electronic God-Man
04-12-2010, 02:07 AM
- As a matter of fact, yes.

Being European is not reserved for just some people, so stop acting like its an elitist club!

It should be reserved for people who are actually European though.

By Cynodon's logic anyone who steps foot onto European soil is European.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 02:07 AM
- How can you take so lightly on being Anti-Semitic? Must prove you are!!:mad:

Oh no, so I have to kneel down and believe whatever you have to say? No thanks.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 02:10 AM
It should be reserved for people who are actually European though.

By Cynodon's logic anyone who steps foot onto European soil is European.

- Didnt the so-called Europeans once settle in Europe themselfs from Asia and Africa? Don't be ignorant.

Going back far enough we all apperantly descended from Africa.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 02:11 AM
- Didnt the so-called Europeans once settle in Europe themselfs from Asia and Africa? Don't be ignorant.

Going back far enough we all apperantly descended from Africa.

I don't know and I don't care but the fact that people who are genetically European are different enough to be recognized as such.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 02:11 AM
Oh no, so I have to kneel down and believe whatever you have to say? No thanks.

- You have to bow down not to me, but to the truth and settle with common sense instead of fighting against it.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 02:12 AM
- You have to bow down not to me, but to the truth and settle with common sense instead of fighting against it.

Your own version of truth, of course.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 02:12 AM
I don't know and I don't care but the fact that people who are genetically European are different enough to be recognized as such.

-But in 1000 years or two minorities of Europe will also become European the same way. Its only a matter of time.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 02:14 AM
-But in 1000 years or two minorities of Europe will also become European the same way. Its only a matter of time.

Which brings us back to the purpose of this forum and that's keeping people like you out of European countries.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 02:16 AM
Which brings us back to the purpose of this forum and that's keeping people like you out of European countries.

- Keep me out? Europe is my home as much as yours, so get used to that and get over it.

Cynodon
04-12-2010, 02:17 AM
Which brings us back to the purpose of this forum and that's keeping people like you out of European countries.

I'm yet to read Moshe saying he wants to leave Israel for Europe. As for "European countries", my geographics are perhaps fuzzy, but I don't see California being one.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 02:17 AM
- Keep me out? Europe is my home as much as yours, so get used to that and get over it.

You're of mixed blood, impure, you should be flushed down the toilet. Bye.

Puddle of Mudd
04-12-2010, 02:21 AM
- Keep me out? Europe is my home as much as yours, so get used to that and get over it.

"Most of my ancestors are from Israel and descendant of Abraham. "

Lars
04-12-2010, 02:22 AM
Some are.

http://repairstemcell.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/mouse-science-diabetes.jpg

Moshe
04-12-2010, 02:23 AM
You're of mixed blood, impure, you should be flushed down the toilet. Bye.

- You are probably semitic too, mr. Southerner so your going down the drain with me in that case.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 02:24 AM
"Most of my ancestors are from Israel and descendant of Abraham. "

- SO?:confused::confused:

Guapo
04-12-2010, 02:31 AM
.

Rock on,dude.
http://artfiles.art.com/5/p/LRG/7/791/1SCI000Z/puddle-of-mudd.jpg

Moshe
04-12-2010, 02:36 AM
Some are.

http://repairstemcell.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/mouse-science-diabetes.jpg

- :coffee::coffee::coffee:

Stefan
04-12-2010, 02:46 AM
-But in 1000 years or two minorities of Europe will also become European the same way. Its only a matter of time.

Genetically that may or may not be the case, but it is very well the case that Jews have NOT assimilated in Cultural or Ethnic situations. Because of that, they/you are newcomers when compared to other ethnic groups of Europe. It is also the case, that Jews don't have a European origin of their own. They/you have always been a minority in association with a native majority. Having said that, there was still a distinctiveness, which also brings me to my next point. The issue of identity. Besides a few individuals I've seen on the internet, most jews seem to want to be Jewish. There is a huge pride in that identity it seems to me, and that comes first for many. Since Jewish identity also incorporates the idea of origins from the East of Europe, I think it is fair to say Jews aren't European in that aspect. Otherwise we would have never had seen the production of your country.

As for what ethnic groups are European, I think it is very easy to distinguish which ethnic groups are "European" and which are not. Any ethnic group that has been within the boundaries of Europe as a native population since the start of recorded history is European(including derivations). Any ethnic group that has a documented or historical origin elsewhere is not. It is as simple as that.


- You are probably semitic too, mr. Southerner so your going down the drain with me in that case.

How is that? He cannot guarantee nor speculate of "semitic" ancestry, nor would it be in his identity if it were to be distant, but you as a Jew are guaranteed of such a lineage. Unless of course you think your specific group was "converted".

Puddle of Mudd
04-12-2010, 05:02 AM
- SO?:confused::confused:

So you're Israeli and not European.

Cato
04-12-2010, 05:11 AM
Not this again.

The Khagan
04-12-2010, 05:41 AM
The discussion here is hardly constructive. Not only that, but this issue has been drawn and quartered here at this forum. It's overdone, it's stupid, and it's pointless. This thread should be locked, in my opinion.

Absinthe
04-12-2010, 06:38 AM
LOL, 12 pages of this? And look at the hours, looks like you guys pulled an all-nighter :shocked:

You're begging to be trolled, aren't you :D

(and I haven't even checked out the "Farah" thread yet) :D

Lithium
04-12-2010, 04:03 PM
No, they aren't.

poiuytrewq0987
04-12-2010, 04:05 PM
I'm yet to read Moshe saying he wants to leave Israel for Europe. As for "European countries", my geographics are perhaps fuzzy, but I don't see California being one.

Did I refer Moshe specifically? I believe I didn't. By the way the US is a European country filled with European immigrants and descendants so it is a European country. This forum is not about geographic inhabitants of Europe but rather people of European blood and you know who I am talking about.

Tabiti
04-12-2010, 04:08 PM
wwwdotstormfrontdotcom

Sarmata
04-12-2010, 05:01 PM
So we have Jew here or maybe provocateur?:rolleyes: Jew who thinks that he is European? Ofcourse Jews live in Europe by centuries, they speak European languages and even are citizens of European countries, but they were/are always foreigners by their culture, religion and national/racial consciousness. You're belong to Israel Moshe and your Semitic realm not to Europe. Although some Jews shareing some European genes you're not real Poles, Germans etc.

Moshe
04-12-2010, 07:40 PM
So we have Jew here or maybe provocateur?:rolleyes: Jew who thinks that he is European? Ofcourse Jews live in Europe by centuries, they speak European languages and even are citizens of European countries, but they were/are always foreigners by their culture, religion and national/racial consciousness. You're belong to Israel Moshe and your Semitic realm not to Europe. Although some Jews shareing some European genes you're not real Poles, Germans etc.

- I suppose anyone offering you people some opposition and not being a parrot of the crowd is a provocateur, what drek is that absolute nonsense!!

Don't tell me where i belong mr.polak!:mad:

And what about the massive Jewish influence on Polish genetics? I think i read somewhere the numbers are as high as 97% around Krakow. Care to explain?

Beorn
04-12-2010, 07:44 PM
By the way the US is a European country filled with European immigrants and descendants so it is a European country.

:033102st:

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 07:48 PM
- I suppose anyone offering you people some opposition and not being a parrot of the crowd is a provocateur, what drek is that absolute nonsense!!

Don't tell me where i belong mr.polak!:mad:

And what about the massive Jewish influence on Polish genetics? I think i read somewhere the numbers are as high as 97% around Krakow. Care to explain?
LOL around Krakow. Evidence, kyke, evidence.

Ibericus
04-12-2010, 07:52 PM
non-european language, non-european culture, non-european genetically, non-european origin and country....It's pretty obvious the answer

Moshe
04-12-2010, 08:01 PM
LOL around Krakow. Evidence, kyke, evidence.

- If i decide to return tomorrow i shall represent credible evidence to tear apart the racialist fantasies into peaces.

The Lawspeaker
04-12-2010, 08:08 PM
- If i decide to return tomorrow i shall represent credible evidence to tear apart the racialist fantasies into peaces.
Right.. nick off.

Äike
04-12-2010, 08:40 PM
Jews aren't European, do I even need to explain? This is pure logic.

Mitra
04-12-2010, 09:24 PM
Some Jews are European. It is illogical to deny persons of Caucasian heritage who have lived in Europe for 2,000 years a European identity. Yes they came from the Middle East but so did the ancestors of many Christian Europeans in prehistoric times. Biologically most Jews are Caucasian, as are most Europeans. Europeans, Middle Easterners & high caste Indians all belong to the Indo-European race.

Some Jews are non-Caucasians, such as the Ethiopian Jews. They are not European or Caucasian.

Ibericus
04-12-2010, 09:30 PM
Some Jews are European. It is illogical to deny persons of Caucasian heritage who have lived in Europe for 2,000 years a European identity. Yes they came from the Middle East but so did the ancestors of many Christian Europeans in prehistoric times. Biologically most Jews are Caucasian, as are most Europeans. Europeans, Middle Easterners & high caste Indians all belong to the Indo-European race.

Some Jews are non-Caucasians, such as the Ethiopian Jews. They are not European or Caucasian.
yes, but this is not a caucasian preservation forum, but European preservation ;) and Jews are not european,

Mitra
04-12-2010, 09:42 PM
How long must a family live in Europe to be European? 50 generations, a hundred? Is a Christian family with the J chromosome European while a Jewish family with an R1a chromosme alien?

Murphy
04-12-2010, 09:44 PM
How long must a family live in Europe to be European? 50 generations, a hundred? Is a Christian family with the J chromosome European while a Jewish family with an R1a chromosme alien?

Race and genetics is not what makes one European.

Ibericus
04-12-2010, 09:47 PM
How long must a family live in Europe to be European? 50 generations, a hundred? Is a Christian family with the J chromosome European while a Jewish family with an R1a chromosme alien?
Haplogroups have little to do with race. About 30% of African-Americans have a european Y-chromosome :rolleyes: Plus, Jews are genetically closer to middle-easternes

Sarmata
04-13-2010, 07:52 PM
Don't tell me where i belong mr.polak!:mad:

Why? I know who I'm and where I belong...I see that you have trouble with that...BTW did you seen "Fanatic" movie?:D


And what about the massive Jewish influence on Polish genetics? I think i read somewhere the numbers are as high as 97% around Krakow. Care to explain?


97%? Why not 100%? :D. But seriously in Poland lived before 2WW many jews...But you know story about "Austrian carporal",right?;)
Anyway I read about Askhenazi jews who shareing our/ Eastern European haplogroup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews(but it wasn't to hard becouse jewry comes from mother).Anyway your "jewish/kohenim" haplogroup it's rare in my country.

Don
04-14-2010, 02:55 PM
They have parasitized so much the europeans and drunk such amount of European blood that some of them are as european as a mosquito is from the land of the parasitized victim's blood.

They fit better HERE: ARCH-Enemies of Europeans.

...


Note: Yes, I'm back. Just a little celebration and travels (of course in my ever-unknown and ancient land) for my graduation ;).

Arne
04-14-2010, 03:37 PM
Do you think Jews are European(which ofcourse we are)? Id like to hear reasons for and against.

Alea iacta est:thumb001:

I place them near the related Folk the Arabs.
That´s where they belong.

The Lawspeaker
04-14-2010, 04:36 PM
The Israeli-Arab conflict: the Semite Brother War..

Cato
04-14-2010, 05:28 PM
The Israeli-Arab conflict: the Semite Brother War..

Try a good old-fashioned Semite tribal blood feud, just like both groups were still living back in the bronze age.

poiuytrewq0987
04-15-2010, 05:52 AM
The Israeli-Arab conflict: the Semite Brother War..

More like Angloisraeli-Arab conflict...

Moshe
04-15-2010, 10:26 PM
:)

Murphy
04-15-2010, 10:27 PM
Go away, Jew.

Don
04-16-2010, 12:18 AM
:)

http://imagenes.solostocks.com/z1905769/potente-raticida-usado-por-profesionales.jpg

This place needs a deep rat cleansing.

Fortis in Arduis
04-16-2010, 09:56 AM
What a wonderful world!

The Lawspeaker
04-16-2010, 10:41 AM
Alright Moshe. Please.. nick off dude ! If you really want to do us all a huge favour scroll amongst your friends list (if you have friends) and send in a Jewish version of Farah. Someone intelligent, someone who is not a troll. Someone that can be reasoned with.
Not a kyke like yourself. But a Jew or Jewess that knows us for who we are and still likes to become acquainted to us (learn from us).

I rather have none of your kind here on this forum but if we really have to be pestered by them- why not a Jewish version of Farah. And no it doesn't immediately have to be a intelligent and witty 19 year old with a sound study/degree but it can be a woman or bloke of any age. As long as that person is intelligent and open-minded and as long as you take a hike and fuck off. Deal ?

Lulletje Rozewater
04-16-2010, 01:41 PM
What a wonderful world!

Rrrrrr!!! :)Meow...:)

Who is that woman in the Avatar???????

Lulletje Rozewater
04-16-2010, 01:48 PM
Alright Moshe. Please.. nick off dude ! If you really want to do us all a huge favour scroll amongst your friends list (if you have friends) and send in a Jewish version of Farah. Someone intelligent, someone who is not a troll. Someone that can be reasoned with.
Not a kyke like yourself. But a Jew or Jewess that knows us for who we are and still likes to become acquainted to us (learn from us).

I rather have none of your kind here on this forum but if we really have to be pestered by them- why not a Jewish version of Farah. And no it doesn't immediately have to be a intelligent and witty 19 year old with a sound study/degree but it can be a woman or bloke of any age. As long as that person is intelligent and open-minded and as long as you take a hike and fuck off. Deal ?

He is on the Jewish s.h.i.t. list
http://www.masada2000.org/shit-list.html
They are in alphabetical order.
Go thru this website slowly and with a :Dlaugh:thumb001:

Lulletje Rozewater
04-16-2010, 01:52 PM
Do you think Jews are European(which ofcourse we are)? Id like to hear reasons for and against.

Alea iacta est:thumb001:

My parents told me there were 6.000.000 European jews here once.
Never met them though:cool:

"The die has been cast":bullet puke

Moshe
04-16-2010, 02:09 PM
Alright Moshe. Please.. nick off dude ! If you really want to do us all a huge favour scroll amongst your friends list (if you have friends) and send in a Jewish version of Farah. Someone intelligent, someone who is not a troll. Someone that can be reasoned with.
Not a kyke like yourself. But a Jew or Jewess that knows us for who we are and still likes to become acquainted to us (learn from us).

I rather have none of your kind here on this forum but if we really have to be pestered by them- why not a Jewish version of Farah. And no it doesn't immediately have to be a intelligent and witty 19 year old with a sound study/degree but it can be a woman or bloke of any age. As long as that person is intelligent and open-minded and as long as you take a hike and fuck off. Deal ?

- Harsh words coming from you my friend. Who received insults for no reason? I did. I don't defend that i resorted to untasteful replies but putting all the blame on me is aint fair. I want to debate, but i am not tolerating hateful remarks against Jews, i am sure its the same for you with Dutch people. In heated discussions like theese its importan to resort to pragmatic thoughts instead of letting the rage decide what to write.

"Those who cannot understand how to put their thoughts on ice should not enter into the heat of debate."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

Sadie
04-16-2010, 03:36 PM
Well integrated Jews living in northern Europe can surely be considered as being Europeans. I certainly prefer them to Italians and Spaniards, for example. As for southern Jews, they are just one more shade of the Mediterranean swarthies.

Fortis in Arduis
04-16-2010, 07:51 PM
Rrrrrr!!! :)Meow...:)

Who is that woman in the Avatar???????

It is Kate O'Mara:

rvlqe9G1izk

poiuytrewq0987
04-16-2010, 07:59 PM
- Harsh words coming from you my friend. Who received insults for no reason? I did. I don't defend that i resorted to untasteful replies but putting all the blame on me is aint fair. I want to debate, but i am not tolerating hateful remarks against Jews, i am sure its the same for you with Dutch people. In heated discussions like theese its importan to resort to pragmatic thoughts instead of letting the rage decide what to write.

"Those who cannot understand how to put their thoughts on ice should not enter into the heat of debate."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

http://plaza.ufl.edu/ttoastt/jews.jpg

Don
04-16-2010, 09:54 PM
Well integrated Jews living in northern Europe can surely be considered as being Europeans. I certainly prefer them to Italians and Spaniards, for example. As for southern Jews, they are just one more shade of the Mediterranean swarthies.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_lSR1UiCEsK0/SOYsQoWNQFI/AAAAAAAAAGU/Mvam_tlW62s/s400/cerdo2.jpg

"No está hecha la miel para la boca del puerco."

boredva
06-19-2010, 02:43 AM
It all depends, if the jew is descended from converts then theyr white or if theyr ancestors mixed so much with europeans that theyr dna is only like 0.2 semitic then yes they r white, But a lot of jews are semitic euro mix so most ( especially huge droopy nose, olived skinned,) jews are not white

boredva
06-19-2010, 02:48 AM
Race and genetics is not what makes one European.

wtf are u smoking?? race is all about being european!! white power!

Psychonaut
06-19-2010, 02:53 AM
wtf are u smoking?? race is all about being european!! white power!

Sorry to be the one to tell you, but real white people begin their sentences with capital letters.

boredva
06-19-2010, 03:11 AM
:)

take a hike kike

Psychonaut
06-19-2010, 03:18 AM
take a hike kike

Damn, dude...

I'm really sorry to do this, but people who talk to posters who were last active two months ago as if they're still here and have yet to grasp the fundamentals of capitalization and punctuation simply cannot be white. :coffee:

boredva
06-19-2010, 04:09 AM
Damn, dude...

I'm really sorry to do this, but people who talk to posters who were last active two months ago as if they're still here and have yet to grasp the fundamentals of capitalization and punctuation simply cannot be white. :coffee:

lol
im a nigger now

Tyrrhenoi
06-19-2010, 05:50 AM
non-european language, non-european culture, non-european genetically, non-european origin and country....It's pretty obvious the answer

Their culture is pretty much the same, look at all the other cultures in the middle-east and look for example how they treat women. Israel is the enlightened beacon in the middle east in my opinion.

Religion wise we anrn't that different aswell, 1st testament is the proof of that. Christianity evolved from Judaism.

I am not saying that EU people and Jews are the same, cut them some slack...

Tyrrhenoi
06-19-2010, 06:02 AM
Well integrated Jews living in northern Europe can surely be considered as being Europeans. I certainly prefer them to Italians and Spaniards, for example. As for southern Jews, they are just one more shade of the Mediterranean swarthies.

You are kidding, right? :D yeaaahh you must be kidding :thumb001:

Don
06-19-2010, 11:14 AM
You are kidding, right? :D yeaaahh you must be kidding :thumb001:

The amazing part of this is that some nordicists are not joking when they make statements like these. Despite logic and common sense assures us that they are.

The muslims are not kidding when they talk about virgins in the paradise waiting for them if they immolate themselves killing some westerners.


Usually, religions are just not funny at all.

Murphy
06-19-2010, 12:47 PM
wtf are u smoking?

Currently? I am smoking a Mayfair cigarette.


race is all about being european!

A non-European telling me what is and what is not European? No thank you.


white power!

Yea, how's that really going for you?

Damn Protestants will be the death of me.

hajduk
06-19-2010, 01:14 PM
Jews consider themselves white only when it suites them.

FrostDragon
04-12-2014, 07:48 PM
Personally, I consider Jews who originated in Europe (Ashkenazi and Sephardi) to be a part of the European race; Jews typically carry Armenoid traits which is a Dinaric variation.
Discuss,

The King, I am
04-12-2014, 07:49 PM
yes

chociprasa
07-28-2019, 02:18 PM
Sure, atleast the Ashkenazim and the Sephardim have European phenotypes.

Lucazk9
02-01-2020, 08:10 PM
Yes, racially it’s obvious that they are White/Europeans, specially the Ashkenazi