World blond hair map

[Brighton]

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/252/f/4/blonde_hair_map_by_schrodinger_excidium-d7yjja3.png

Seems relatively accurate in my opinion.

[Ryujin]

So, Turkey has some colorful areas unlike Greece.

[John DoeGJ]

Seems like Israel has quite a bit of them. :-P
Well... Quite a bit may be an overestimate, but 10-20 or 20-30% according to this map, more than for example Greece and Turkey.

[Loki]

Very interesting! Yes, seems accurate.

[JohnSmith]

I think Greece and the Balkans have more blondish than the map represents but it seems pretty accurate besides

[Brighton]

I've never met a blonde Greek haha.

So funny how Chile is in the same level range as.. Connecticut.. which may be true with the amount of Blacks, Italian-Americans, Portuguese-Americans and Hispanics that Connecticut's got.

[Kawaiine]

*thumbs up"

[JohnSmith]

I've never met a blonde Greek haha.

So funny how Chile is in the same level range as.. Connecticut.. which may be true with the amount of Blacks, Italian-Americans, Portuguese-Americans and Hispanics that Connecticut's got.

I have seen Blond Greeks. Well Connecticut most famous Italian American Comedeine ---Lisa Lampenelli is not very dark herself.

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/getout/files/2011/08/lisa.jpg

[Artek]

Poland has wrong data.

[Ouistreham]

It's an image of the world as it used to be in the last years of the twentieth century.
Save this map.
In twenty years from now, you will just look at it and cry.

[ChechenBorz]

It isn't accurate with Chechnya and Ingushetia, we have more blondes and whites than Georgia but the map says Georgia has more

[Ouistreham]

Poland has wrong data.
Yes, something isn't quite right with Western Poland.
I remember that people there were significantly darker than in the East.
Which is logical since Pomerania and Silesia were repopulated with Polish people from present day Ukrainia after the German original population were ousted.

Maybe the authors of this map thought "since they were former German territories they must be somewhat lighter", but they were wrong.

Other than that this map offers a pretty realistic large-scale image.

[Artek]

Yes, something isn't quite right with Western Poland.
I remember that people there were significantly darker than in the East.
Which is logical since Pomerania and Silesia were repopulated with Polish people from present day Ukrainia after the German original population were ousted.

Maybe the authors of this map thought "since they were former German territories they must be somewhat lighter", but they were wrong.

Other than that this map offers a pretty realistic large-scale image.

Exactly. Modern Poles from Western Poland are darker than anything. But on the other hand, areas which weren't substantially changed by migrations from Ukraine, should be blonder.

[Smaug]

Makes sense. So my estimative that 25-30% of White Brazilians are blonde was not wrong after all.

[Antimage]

i don't believe that map. argentina and uruguay can't be lighter haired than spain
argentina and uruguay can't be as blonde as hungary, middle parts of france, croatia,SLOVENIA and north italy etc

i bet this map is based on self reported data and/or the sample size is only few thousand people(too small)

[Antimage]

Makes sense. So my estimative that 25-30% of White Brazilians are blonde was not wrong after all.

it's possible because of the big amount of germans and north italians and some slavs

[Smaug]

it's possible because of the big amount of germans and north italians and some slavs

Indeed.

[JohnSmith]

Indeed.

Isn't Dilma Bulgarian.

[wvwvw]

I've never met a blonde Greek haha.

So funny how Chile is in the same level range as.. Connecticut.. which may be true with the amount of Blacks, Italian-Americans, Portuguese-Americans and Hispanics that Connecticut's got.

I've only met mulatto Chileans smartass

[Ryujin]

I think Greece and Turkey as well as Sicily could be colorful, they're not in the same pot with Arabia and such.

[wvwvw]

So, Turkey has some colorful areas unlike Greece.

In Pontus yes

[xanemine]

Isn't Dilma Bulgarian.

Her father was Bulgarian, her mother is Portuguese

[Antimage]

Isn't Dilma Bulgarian.

he's half bulgarian. what i find strange is that she always looked mixed race to me, but based on this photo, she might be 100% white
http://www.novinite.com/media/photos_more/201101/path_498.jpg
throwback genes from her brazilian mother? or am i the only one who thinks dilma rousseff looks mixed race?

[schrodinger]

One of the crappiest map ever. North Spain lighter than Hungary and South France is priceless.

Did Ratatoskr make this?

[wvwvw]

i don't believe that map. argentina and uruguay can't be lighter haired than spain
argentina and uruguay can't be as blonde as hungary, middle parts of france, croatia,SLOVENIA and north italy etc

i bet this map is based on self reported data and/or the sample size is only few thousand people(too small)

Anyone can make maps like this, it only takes 5 mins.

[xanemine]

he's half bulgarian. what i find strange is that she always looked mixed race to me, but based on this photo, she might be 100% white
http://www.novinite.com/media/photos_more/201101/path_498.jpg
throwback genes from her brazilian mother? or am i the only one who thinks dilma rousseff looks mixed race?

She's spoiled because of old age, she fit's just fine in Bulgaria..

[Brighton]

i don't believe that map. argentina and uruguay can't be lighter haired than spain
argentina and uruguay can't be as blonde as hungary, middle parts of france, croatia,SLOVENIA and north italy etc

i bet this map is based on self reported data and/or the sample size is only few thousand people(too small)

I've been to both Buenos Aires and Madrid.. and the percentage of blondes is higher in the former.

Argentina received non-Spaniard influence, i.e. Northern Italians, Germans, Eastern Europeans..

--

Uruguayans are basically Galicians + Northern Italians btw.. it makes a lot of sense.

[Brighton]

I've only met mulatto Chileans smartass
Chileans are not Mulattos you ignorant cunt

[Nurzat]

Germany and Sweden where > 10% are 3rd world immigrants are not in those percentages anymore :) Neither Belgium or Netherlands. Or Britain. western Russia, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, north Ukraine and Poland will remain most blonde during 21 century :) Hungary will come afterwards.

[JohnSmith]

One of the crappiest map ever. North Spain lighter than Hungary and South France is priceless.

Did Ratatoskr make this?

South France on the Mediterranean is very similar to the Italian Coastal areas. Parts of Spain and even Central Italy are lighter than Southern France without question.

[xanemine]

I've been to both Buenos Aires and Madrid.. and the percentage of blondes is higher in the former.

Argentina received non-Spaniard influence, i.e. Northern Italians, Germans, Eastern Europeans..

--

Uruguayans are basically Galicians + Northern Italians btw.. it makes a lot of sense.


Buenos Aires, Cordoba and Rosario are very European. The rest of the country is mostly mestizo or Indian.

[Antimage]

She's spoiled because of old age, she fit's just fine in Bulgaria..

I think she looks very atypical for bulgarian and she looked strange for a white person even when she was younghttp://www.pulsamerica.co.uk/parentesis/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/dilma.jpg_916179109.jpg

i was very surprised to see her parents and finding out she's a white person. She always looked like a brazilian pardo to me.

[schrodinger]

I've been to both Buenos Aires and Madrid.. and the percentage of blondes is higher in the former.

Argentina received non-Spaniard influence, i.e. Northern Italians, Germans, Eastern Europeans..

--

Uruguayans are basically Galicians + Northern Italians btw.. it makes a lot of sense.

Majority of Italians in Argentina are from the South. Germans and East Europeans are maybe 1% of the population. Plenty of Jews and Lebanese down there, who get grouped among "whites".

[Antimage]

I've been to both Buenos Aires and Madrid.. and the percentage of blondes is higher in the former.

Argentina received non-Spaniard influence, i.e. Northern Italians, Germans, Eastern Europeans..

--

Uruguayans are basically Galicians + Northern Italians btw.. it makes a lot of sense.

your first sentence condradicts with the other 2 i think. don't you mean the perceantage of blonde is higher in buenos aires?

[Lisa]

http://s017.radikal.ru/i406/1411/ac/edd7871fae42.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s013.radikal.ru/i324/1411/27/e6d17dd0ad9a.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[JohnSmith]

she looked strange for a white person even when she was younghttp://www.pulsamerica.co.uk/parentesis/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/dilma.jpg_916179109.jpg

i was very surprised to see her parents and finding out she's a white person. She always looked like a brazilian pardo to me.


You must be trolling she looks very Alpine European.

[aimar]

This map has it all, there's even two anime figures in it.

[schrodinger]

South France on the Mediterranean is very similar to the Italian Coastal areas. Parts of Spain and even Central Italy are lighter than Southern France without question.

:picard1:

[Antimage]

You must be trolling she looks very Alpine European.

yeah such european looks
https://s3.amazonaws.com/piktochartv2-dev/v2/uploads/765c057a-0f50-4fca-9163-d8b12b2be3fa/0633ec4593359e66f147ab91472c4c4bfd6a70cf_original. jpg
she looks mixed race brazilian rather than european. maybe she tans a lot or idk. but i don't really care, i won't reply to this roussef subject anymore
im not saying she's not white, i'm just saying she's atypical

[JohnSmith]

:picard1:

Is some areas yes it is true my friend.

[xanemine]

Carol Trentini is half Italian half German, her phenotype is not rare at all in Southern Brazil, but not so common in Argentina

http://i.models.com/i/db/2014/4/251598/251598-500w.jpg

[Hadouken]

in b4 Solin

[Brighton]

Buenos Aires, Cordoba and Rosario are very European. The rest of the country is mostly mestizo or Indian.
That is not true.

Bariloche is quite European.

The Patagonia is not as European as BsAs but it is more European than the city of Sao Paulo for example.

[Brighton]

your first sentence condradicts with the other 2 i think. don't you mean the perceantage of blonde is higher in buenos aires?
Yes.. the former = Buenos Aires. The latter = Madrid.. there's nothing wrong haha.

[Brighton]

Majority of Italians in Argentina are from the South. Germans and East Europeans are maybe 1% of the population. Plenty of Jews and Lebanese down there, who get grouped among "whites".

Umm nope, majority of Italians in the US are from there. In Argentina they're from the north.

[JohnSmith]

yeah such european looks
https://s3.amazonaws.com/piktochartv2-dev/v2/uploads/765c057a-0f50-4fca-9163-d8b12b2be3fa/0633ec4593359e66f147ab91472c4c4bfd6a70cf_original. jpg
she looks mixed race brazilian rather than european. maybe she tans a lot or idk. but i don't really care, i won't reply to this roussef subject anymore
im not saying she's not white, i'm just saying she's atypical

Your cherry picking there is nothing odd about her look, your trolling:

http://blog.portalexamedeordem.com.br/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/331.jpg

[Ryujin]

This map has it all, there's even two anime figures in it.

Yet they don't give Japan its due :picard1:

[Corvus]

50-65% in Lower Austria and Bohemia
No way accurate

[JohnSmith]

Umm nope, majority of Italians in the US are from there. In Argentina they're from the north.

That may be true,, a friend of mine went to Argentina and they said it was rather dark compared to the USA. Northern Italians are not particular much lighter than the Southern ones. Do we forget that the Normans controlled much of Southern Italy for centuries.

[schrodinger]

Maria Virginia Zonta from Argentina's Beach Volley Team. Surname and name sound Italian to me.

http://i.imgur.com/slH37tx.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yGMlWfc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WLj19GA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qo6jIwr.jpg

[xanemine]

That is not true.

Bariloche is quite European.

The Patagonia is not as European as BsAs but it is more European than the city of Sao Paulo for example.

True. But white people from Argentina and São Paulo look basically the same: LOTS of Italians, mostly Central and Southern; Spanish; a few Germans and Slavs, Ashkenazi Jews and Lebanese and Syrians who are also considered white in both countries.

[aimar]

The limits between the lines don't follow regions' borders, they don't even follow municipalities ( a very tiny administrative division, 200/400km^2) as I can see from the portuguese case :picard1:

Plus a huge area of southern Balkans is below 10%, doesn't seem right to me.
It's a bullshit map for bullshiters.

[lonely forest]

Caucasus has on point data, mostly for Laz & Georgian regions. Thanks for this post.

[Trun]

There is no possible way Serbia, Bulgaria, Kosovo, FYROM and even Albania to have less blonds than Spain and Italy.

[schrodinger]

Umm nope, majority of Italians in the US are from there. In Argentina they're from the north.

http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italo-argentini

It's about half and half.

Indeed only Brazil received more Northerners than Southerners.

[xanemine]

There is no possible way Serbia, Bulgaria, Kosovo, FYROM and even Albania to have less blonds than Spain and Italy.

Only Serbia. Please, Bulgaria is together with Greece, Southern Italy, Albania/Kosovo and Macedonia, and Portugal the most dark-haired and eyed in Europe.

[Trun]

Only Serbia. Please, Bulgaria is together with Greece, Southern Italy, Albania/Kosovo and Macedonia, and Portugal the most dark-haired and eyed in Europe.

:lol:

Blonds in Southern Balkan countries (excl Greece) aren't uncommon sight. There are villages where up to 20% of the people can be blond. Light eyes up to 60%. Blond hair in Bulgaria is around 10% on average from my observation.

Blond hair is very rare in Southern Italy and Portugal.

[JohnSmith]

There is no possible way Serbia, Bulgaria, Kosovo, FYROM and even Albania to have less blonds than Spain and Italy.

It depends on the location in Italy and Spain. Spain has a lot of red hair and not sure how that factors here. Italy has its share of Noric types mostly in the North(not sure how common they are)
Not sure how common Fabio is in Italy he looks Norid I guess, but he is Italian.

http://www.fabioifc.com/FABIO%20interview%202013.jpg

[Smaug]

Isn't Dilma Bulgarian.

Yes, of Bulgarian descent.

[Trun]

It depends on the location in Italy and Spain. Spain has a lot of red hair and not sure how that factors here. Italy has its share of Noric types mostly in the North(not sure how common they are)
Not sure how common Fabio is in Italy he looks Norid I guess, but he is Italian.

http://www.fabioifc.com/FABIO%20interview%202013.jpg

We are speak about averages, not individuals. You can find Bulgarians like this (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?148380-Classify-Ivaylo-quot-the-Swede-quot-Dimitrov) as well.


Yes, of Bulgarian descent.

Only her father, she looks like her Portuguese mother.

[JohnSmith]

:lol:

Blonds in Southern Balkan countries (excl Greece) aren't uncommon sight. There are villages where up to 20% of the people can be blond. Light eyes up to 60%. Blond hair in Bulgaria is around 10% on average from my observation.

Blond hair is very rare in Southern Italy and Portugal.

My Italian relatives have Blondish and Reddish hair.

[Trun]

My Italian relatives have Blondish and Reddish hair.

So do my aunt's relatives.

[xanemine]

:lol:

Blonds in Southern Balkan countries (excl Greece) aren't uncommon sight. There are villages where up to 20% of the people can be blond. Light eyes up to 60%. Blond hair in Bulgaria is around 10% on average from my observation.

Blond hair is very rare in Southern Italy and Portugal.

Bulgaria is like Central Italy pigmentation wise, they are not among the darkest. Sorry. But no way people from Macedonia and Albania are lighter than Central Italians and Spain.

[JohnSmith]

We are speak about averages, not individuals. You can find Bulgarians like this (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?148380-Classify-Ivaylo-quot-the-Swede-quot-Dimitrov) as well.



Only her father, she looks like her Portuguese mother.

Yeah, but that doesn't cancel the fact that Fabio is Italian, so there must be people there that look like him. He is not from Mars.

[Antimage]

I've been to both Buenos Aires and Madrid.. and the percentage of blondes is higher in the former.

Argentina received non-Spaniard influence, i.e. Northern Italians, Germans, Eastern Europeans..

--

Uruguayans are basically Galicians + Northern Italians btw.. it makes a lot of sense.


argentinia also received a lot of southern italians(including many sicilians). and almost half of all argentinians are black haired mestizos.the countryside is much more mestizo than buenos aires.
the main three ancestry groups in argentina are italians(northeners as well as southerners) spaniards and native americans...i really don't see how argentina would be more blonde than spain overall..
uruguayans have significant native blood too.

another problem with the map is that slovenia, croatia, uruguay and argentina are in the same category when the first two are clearly blonder. especially slovenians, they often overlap with austrians. not to mention these 2(slovenia and croatia) have extremely little amount of non white immigrants(almost zero)

[saci]

True. But white people from Argentina and São Paulo look basically the same: LOTS of Italians, mostly Central and Southern; Spanish; a few Germans and Slavs, Ashkenazi Jews and Lebanese and Syrians who are also considered white in both countries.

:picard1:

[Antimage]

My Italian relatives have Blondish and Reddish hair.

so what?

[aimar]

:lol:

There are villages where up to 20% of the people can be blond. Light eyes up to 60%. Blond hair in Bulgaria is around 10% on average from my observation.



This is also true for Portugal, even more than 20% if the village is small enough.
What surprises me in this map is southern Romania and southern Serbia.

[JohnSmith]

Bulgaria is like Central Italy pigmentation wise, they are not among the darkest. Sorry. But no way people from Macedonia and Albania are lighter than Central Italians and Spain.

My Italian Relatives which have Reddish and Blondish hair are Central Italian.

[Trun]

Bulgaria is like Central Italy pigmentation wise, they are not among the darkest. Sorry. But no way people from Macedonia and Albania are lighter than Central Italians and Spain.

People from FYROM are ethnic Bulgarians or ethnic Albanians depending on the region. I don't know about Albanians but from what I have seen in this forum, they aren't super dark folks. They seem comparable to Central Italians. Bulgarians are a bit lighter than Central Italians and a bit darker than Northern Italians.

[saci]

I think she looks very atypical for bulgarian and she looked strange for a white person even when she was younghttp://www.pulsamerica.co.uk/parentesis/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/dilma.jpg_916179109.jpg

i was very surprised to see her parents and finding out she's a white person. She always looked like a brazilian pardo to me.

: Picard2:: Picard1:

[saci]

Her father was Bulgarian, her mother is Portuguese

his mother is Brazilian.

[xanemine]

:picard1:

?????

[saci]

chile = brown WTF?:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:

[Balmung]

The map seems to be based solely on stereotypes of certain groups than anything else. Minnesota 65% blonde? I've been and its not, brown hair is the majority. Unless whoever made this map is counting light brown hair as blonde no way is it legit.

[xanemine]

My Italian Relatives which have Reddish and Blondish hair are Central Italian.

People from Lazio, Umbria, Marche and even Abruzzo are fairly light.

[JohnSmith]

People from FYROM are ethnic Bulgarians or ethnic Albanians depending on the region. I don't know about Albanians but from what I have seen in this forum, they aren't super dark folks. They seem comparable to Central Italians. Bulgarians are a bit lighter than Central Italians and a bit darker than Northern Italians.

I would say Enrico Letta is good example of a typical Central Italian

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/Enrico_Letta_2013.jpg

and
Massimo Cialente
http://www.laquilablog.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/cialente.jpeg

I always the typical Bulgarian looks like Nina Dobrev
http://cdn2.thegloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/nina-dobrev-hair-bow.jpg

They look similar I guess in pigmentation

[xanemine]

People from FYROM are ethnic Bulgarians or ethnic Albanians depending on the region. I don't know about Albanians but from what I have seen in this forum, they aren't super dark folks. They seem comparable to Central Italians. Bulgarians are a bit lighter than Central Italians and a bit darker than Northern Italians.

Albanians are exotic. I don't think so.

[Porpolita]

LOL this is typical ... all the dark wogs are going crazy over a blonde hair map :rotfl:

[JohnSmith]

The map seems to be based solely on stereotypes of certain groups than anything else. Minnesota 65% blonde? I've been and its not, brown hair is the majority. Unless whoever made this map is counting light brown hair as blonde no way is it legit.

I have been to Minnesota and your right it is no way in hell 65% blond. The blondest state is Utah I would say.

[xanemine]

Lebanese politicians from Sao Paulo, don't make me post the Ashkhenazi Jews!

http://cregional.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/AgenciaBrasil.jpg

http://ujs.org.br/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Geraldo-alckmin.jpg

http://www.temmais.com/Upload/Blog/cassiasalvajoli/Editor/Paulo%20Skaf.JPG

[D´Sanglard]

South France on the Mediterranean is very similar to the Italian Coastal areas. Parts of Spain and even Central Italy are lighter than Southern France without question.

:picard2:

[D´Sanglard]

Makes sense. So my estimative that 25-30% of White Brazilians are blonde was not wrong after all.

Are you kidding?

[Vasconcelos]

Iberia is stereotypical (and wrong) as usual.

[KawaiiKawaii]

LOL this is typical ... all the dark wogs are going crazy over a blonde hair map :rotfl:

+100000

[JohnSmith]

:picard2:

It is true. I know it is hard to believe but yes some people in Central Italy and Spain are lighter than people of Southern France. I do not really know why that is such a difficult things to grasp? Especially, when comparing people of the Apennines mountains(Central Italy) to the coastal Mediterranean areas of Southern France. Plus, Spain has that celtic Atlantid look in many areas in the NorthWest.

[xanemine]

Are you kidding?

Like I said, white people from São Paulo are manly Central Italians, with a good number of Northern and Southern as well, Spanish, a few central Europeans, Jews and Lebanese. Blonde people there make up like 10%. In southern Brazil, 20%. Only counting the white people, not the total population. Light brown hair is pretty common though.

[Trun]

I always the typical Bulgarian looks like Nina Dobrev
http://cdn2.thegloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/nina-dobrev-hair-bow.jpg


This is only one of the "typical" Bulgarian looks, there are many more.

[D´Sanglard]

It is true. I know it is hard to believe but yes some people in Central Italy and Spain are lighter than people of Southern France. I do not really know why that is such a difficult things to grasp? Especially, when comparing people of the Apennines mountains(Central Italy) to the coastal Mediterranean areas of Southern France. Plus, Spain has that celtic Atlantid look in many areas in the NorthWest.

Have you ever been in your life in these 3 countries? As a hole Southern France is ligther.

[D´Sanglard]

Like I said, white people from São Paulo are manly Central Italians, with a good number of Northern and Southern as well, Spanish, a few central Europeans, Jews and Lebanese. Blonde people there make up like 10%. In southern Brazil, 20%. Only counting the white people, not the total population. Light brown hair is pretty common though.

I´m not talking about São Paulo. Brazil is a big country and all the ethnicities you mentioned don´t have high incidence of blond hair.

Libaneses, Espanhóis, Judeus, etc... Não possuem alta frequência de cabelos Louros. Dizer que 25 % à 30% dos brancos brasileiros são louros é absurdo. Isso é uma porcentagem equivalente para França, Inglaterra, Gales e etc.. E de jeito nenhum os brancos brasileiros possuem mais cabelos louros do que esses países

[Brighton]

True. But white people from Argentina and São Paulo look basically the same: LOTS of Italians, mostly Central and Southern; Spanish; a few Germans and Slavs, Ashkenazi Jews and Lebanese and Syrians who are also considered white in both countries.
Yah true.. although the fact that Brazil has such nice weather all year long make people look more tanned, giving their a distinct phenotype - which IMHO is a good thing haha.

[xanemine]

I´m not talking about São Paulo. Brazil is a big country and all the ethnicities you mentioned don´t have high incidence of blond hair.

Libaneses, Espanhóis, Judeus, etc... Não possuem alta frequência de cabelos Louros. Dizer que 25 % à 30% dos brancos brasileiros são louros é absurdo. Isso é uma porcentagem equivalente para França, Inglaterra, Gales e etc.. E de jeito nenhum os brancos brasileiros possuem mais cabelos louros do que esses países

This is the spectrum of WHITE people in Southern Brazil, the most common look the middle one. The difference with Sao Paulo is the lack of people like Hickmann, and Ambrosio's look is more common.

Ana Hickmann

http://fe.epaentretenimento.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/0733339.jpg

Ana Claudia Michels

http://s2.postimage.org/gdrq4xzni/5947966183_0113ca7d43_b.jpg

Alessandra Ambrosio

http://www.fashionbubbles.com/files/2013/10/alessandra-ambrosio-G.jpg

[Cristiano viejo]

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/252/f/4/blonde_hair_map_by_schrodinger_excidium-d7yjja3.png

Seems relatively accurate in my opinion.
These yellow Asian zones... humm :rolleyes:

[D´Sanglard]

This is the spectrum of WHITE people in Southern Brazil, the most common look the middle one. The difference with Sao Paulo is the lack of people like Hickmann, and Ambrosio's look is more common.

Ana Hickmann

http://fe.epaentretenimento.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/0733339.jpg

Ana Claudia Michels

http://s2.postimage.org/gdrq4xzni/5947966183_0113ca7d43_b.jpg

Alessandra Ambrosio

http://www.fashionbubbles.com/files/2013/10/alessandra-ambrosio-G.jpg

You don´t need to show me how South Brazilians are. And blondes are the minority.

Ambrosio não é Loura e mesmo o Sul do país tendo mais Louros não chega nesse número. Não tente passar uma realidade para mim que não existe. Eu conheço muito bem seu país.

[D´Sanglard]

These yellow Asian zones... humm :rolleyes:

This map is old and innacurate. Everybody know this

[Cristiano viejo]

This map is old and innacurate. Everybody know this

According the users at the first page, the map is accurate.

[Faklon]

Why is this on genetics?

[xanemine]

You don´t need to show me how South Brazilians are. And blondes are the minority.

Ambrosio não é Loura e mesmo o Sul do país tendo mais Louros não chega nesse número. Não tente passar uma realidade para mim que não existe. Eu conheço muito bem seu país.

Eu disse que em SAO PAULO A POPULAÇÃO BRANCA LOIRA É EM TORNO DE 10%, NO SUL 20%. JAMAIS 25-30% PRA POPULAÇÃO TOTAL!

[LostInParadise]

True, in Argentina there are more blonde people than spain.

[saci]

Lebanese politicians from Sao Paulo, don't make me post the Ashkhenazi Jews!

http://cregional.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/AgenciaBrasil.jpg

http://ujs.org.br/site/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Geraldo-alckmin.jpg

http://www.temmais.com/Upload/Blog/cassiasalvajoli/Editor/Paulo%20Skaf.JPG

kassab= half italian

[Faklon]

Lol,Latin American OWD.

[D´Sanglard]

According the users at the first page, the map is accurate.

Latinos + rubios que los españoles? jajajajjaa

La opinión de ellos non importa

[Brighton]

argentinia also received a lot of southern italians(including many sicilians). and almost half of all argentinians are black haired mestizos.the countryside is much more mestizo than buenos aires.
the main three ancestry groups in argentina are italians(northeners as well as southerners) spaniards and native americans...i really don't see how argentina would be more blonde than spain overall..
uruguayans have significant native blood too.

another problem with the map is that slovenia, croatia, uruguay and argentina are in the same category when the first two are clearly blonder. especially slovenians, they often overlap with austrians. not to mention these 2(slovenia and croatia) have extremely little amount of non white immigrants(almost zero)
Well first of all I think this map refers to light hair rather than just blonde (hence this "inflation" that seems to have happened).

That being said, no, Argentinians are not half black-haired Mestizos.

I'm from Chile and even here most people have brown hair rather than black.

I've been to many cities in Argentina (Buenos Aires twice and Patagonia literally three times).

Regarding Buenos Aires, Whites are a majority (60%-65% circa I'd say). There are many Porteños of Italian, German, French, Slavic and even Scandinavian ancestry.

Regarding Patagonia, Whites must be app. 45-50%. In fact, the difference between regions such as Magallanes in Chile and Santa Cruz in Argentina are negligible. The biggest difference is due to the Araucania in Chile having a very high proportion of Mapuches, whilst on the other side you've got Bariloche which is basically a Swiss city.

Spaniard input in Argentina is Galician, hence more blondes, whilst Southern Spain seemed to be very Arab-influenced. I've been to Southern Spain and most people were even darker than me, in fact they were extremely tanned (alright, it was summer, but I had been one week in Dubrovnik so it's not like I was in Finland before). Also Spain has a massive immigrant population from Africa/Asia/Andean countries.

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I went to Lake Bled in Slovenia and yes, there were more blondes than in Buenos Aires.. that's Northern Slovenia I'm guessing though. In Ljubljana they were less blonde. Although I went to Zagreb and Dubrovnik in Croatia as well and the locals did not seem blonder than Porteños. They were in the same level I'd say, with people from Dubrovnik having darker skin due to their awesome weather though.

[xanemine]

Latinos + rubios que los españoles? jajajajjaa

La opinión de ellos non importa


You're not French though! :thumb001:

[D´Sanglard]

Eu disse que em SAO PAULO A POPULAÇÃO BRANCA LOIRA É EM TORNO DE 10%, NO SUL 20%. JAMAIS 25-30% PRA POPULAÇÃO TOTAL!

Primeiro, eu não disse que você falou que era 25 % à 30%. Você quoted meu comentário, por isso estou respondendo à você

E o Sul não têm 20 % de louros.

10% de louros é a estimativa mais real para TODOS OS BRANCOS BRASILEIROS.

Alessanda Ambrosio é o tipo mais comum

[saci]

Like I said, white people from São Paulo are manly Central Italians, with a good number of Northern and Southern as well, Spanish, a few central Europeans, Jews and Lebanese. Blonde people there make up like 10%. In southern Brazil, 20%. Only counting the white people, not the total population. Light brown hair is pretty common though.

:lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::lol00002::eusa_liar ::eusa_liar::bullet puke:bullet puke

[Brighton]

Latinos + rubios que los españoles? jajajajjaa

La opinión de ellos non importa
It's actually easier to find a NATURAL blonde person in Santiago or Buenos Aires than in a city in Andalusia.

This happens cos Spaniards are rather homogenous (most of them are brown-haired with this olive tone) whilst, at least in Santiago, you've got extremely Indigenous-looking people in the working classes and extremely British/German-looking people in the upper classes.

That Nordic-looking minority in the Southern Cone is still bigger than among Spaniards, since they did not colonise regions of their country with Germans in the 19th century.

[D´Sanglard]

You're not French though! :thumb001:

Minha esposa é brasileira, idiota!! Eu falo português. E atualmente estou no Brasil. Não invente besteira

[D´Sanglard]

It's actually easier to find a NATURAL blonde person in Santiago or Buenos Aires than in a city in Andalusia.

This happens cos Spaniards are rather homogenous (most of them are brown-haired with this olive tone) whilst, at least in Santiago, you've got extremely Indigenous-looking people in the working classes and extremely British/German-looking people in the upper classes.

That Nordic-looking minority in the Southern Cone is still bigger than among Spaniards, since they did not colonise regions of their country with Germans in the 19th century.

I´m talking about as a hole

[saci]

I´m not talking about São Paulo. Brazil is a big country and all the ethnicities you mentioned don´t have high incidence of blond hair.

Libaneses, Espanhóis, Judeus, etc... Não possuem alta frequência de cabelos Louros. Dizer que 25 % à 30% dos brancos brasileiros são louros é absurdo. Isso é uma porcentagem equivalente para França, Inglaterra, Gales e etc.. E de jeito nenhum os brancos brasileiros possuem mais cabelos louros do que esses países

depende da definição de "loiro"? eu sei que quanto mais ao sul você vai mais loiro o país fica.

[D´Sanglard]

depende da definição de "loiro"? eu sei que quanto mais ao sul você vai mais loiro o país fica.

Maioria cidades pequenas.

Louro de acordo com os padrões já postados aqui.

[saci]

This is the spectrum of WHITE people in Southern Brazil, the most common look the middle one. The difference with Sao Paulo is the lack of people like Hickmann, and Ambrosio's look is more common.

Ana Hickmann

http://fe.epaentretenimento.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/0733339.jpg

Ana Claudia Michels

http://s2.postimage.org/gdrq4xzni/5947966183_0113ca7d43_b.jpg

Alessandra Ambrosio

http://www.fashionbubbles.com/files/2013/10/alessandra-ambrosio-G.jpg

lol most "Italians" in sao paulo are from the north.

alesandra ambriosio :picard2:

[xanemine]

Minha esposa é brasileira, idiota!! Eu falo português. E atualmente estou no Brasil. Não invente besteira

Noooooooooooooooooossaa, foi só eu tocar no assunto que já teve que falar que ATUALMENTE se encontra no Brasil pra já ter a desculpa pronta em relação ao IP.

[D´Sanglard]

lol most "Italians" in sao paulo are from the north.

alesandra ambriosio :picard2:

ok, Brazuca

[saci]

You don´t need to show me how South Brazilians are. And blondes are the minority.

Ambrosio não é Loura e mesmo o Sul do país tendo mais Louros não chega nesse número. Não tente passar uma realidade para mim que não existe. Eu conheço muito bem seu país.

desculpa mais não é dificil achar pessoas como ana hickman no sul principalmente no interior, o tipo dela é mais comum que o da Alessandra ambriosio

[D´Sanglard]

Noooooooooooooooooossaa, foi só eu tocar no assunto que já teve que falar que ATUALMENTE se encontra no Brasil pra já ter a desculpa pronta em relação ao IP.

Seu otário, você têm 21 posts aqui. Quem é você para vir me acusar de algo? Cala à porra da sua boca antes de falar merda.

Eu desconfio que você seja um usuário antigo para fazer esses tipos de suposições infundadas

[D´Sanglard]

desculpa mais não é dificil achar pessoas como ana hickman no sul principalmente no interior, o tipo dela é mais comum que o da Alessandra ambriosio

Eu não disse que é difícil achar. Disse que não chega à 25 %

[saci]

Maioria cidades pequenas.

Louro de acordo com os padrões já postados aqui.

que seria qual? a maioria da população do sul vive em cidades de até 20 mil habitantes

[xanemine]

Says he's maried to a Brazilian woman - calls other poeple words like Brown, Pardo,. You are doing it right!

[D´Sanglard]

que seria qual? a maioria da população do sul vive em cidades de até 20 mil habitantes

Isso representa qual porcentagem da população? Pouca. E não estamos falando da Suécia. Muitas pessoas dessas cidades pequenas têm cabelos castanhos ,também. Logo, não chegam à 25%.

Discussão encerrada para mim

[D´Sanglard]

Says he's maried to a Brazilian woman - calls other poeple words like Brown, Pardo,. You are doing it right!

Yeah, you´re stupid insecurity pardo. Fuck off

[Faklon]

These yellow Asian zones... humm :rolleyes:
You doubting Kazakhstan's Aryanness?

Do you even Bahaman?

Do you also doubt that every Italian and Spaniard are blond only in the New world?

[xanemine]

Yeah, you´re stupid insecurity pardo. Fuck off

Not really, now if what you say is true. Then you re maried to a triracial woman from Northeast Brazil and you have mixed race children :ooo Not much different from nowaday's France, right

[Sandman]

According to the study of pigmentation of Poles in the years 50s of the 20th century, 56% of Poles have light hair. Hence the map does not present adequate results when it comes to Poland. It should be mentioned that the northern Poland is a little "lighter" than the southern Poland. Differences are not very large.

[curupira]

A joke!

[Abeja]

This is the spectrum of WHITE people in Southern Brazil, the most common look the middle one. The difference with Sao Paulo is the lack of people like Hickmann, and Ambrosio's look is more common.

Ana Hickmann

http://fe.epaentretenimento.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/0733339.jpg

Ana Claudia Michels

...

Alessandra Ambrosio

...

Are you judging hair colours when you can't even notice that this Hickmann has dyed hairs? :picard1:

[saci]

Eu não disse que é difícil achar. Disse que não chega à 25 %

eu não faria uma estimativa porque não tenho dados concretos!

[D´Sanglard]

Not really, now if what you say is true. Then you re maried to a triracial woman from Northeast Brazil and you have mixed race children :ooo Not much different from nowaday's France, right

This is the best you can do? Acuse me, my wife and now says shit about my country?


Grrow up, asshole!

[xanemine]

Are you judging hair colours when you can't even notice that this Hickmann has dyed hairs? :picard1:

She dyed to yellow-platinum blonde, her natural hair is dark blonde + she darkens her eyebrows

[saci]

Isso representa qual porcentagem da população? Pouca. E não estamos falando da Suécia. Muitas pessoas dessas cidades pequenas têm cabelos castanhos ,também. Logo, não chegam à 25%.

Discussão encerrada para mim

a MAIORIA da população do sul vive em pequenas cidades que você falou, onde a população "loira" tende a ser grande como você falou! e mesmo nas grandes cidades não é dificil achar loiros.

[Abeja]

She dyed to yellow-platinum blonde, her natural hair is dark blonde + she darkens her eyebrows

She has brown hairs at best, look at other pics of her.

[saci]

Are you judging hair colours when you can't even notice that this Hickmann has dyed hairs? :picard1:

ana hickmann has dyed hairs? lol full blood german!!!

[SKYNET]

who has painted that map?

[Abeja]

Despite the graphic impact, a lot of places are incorrect and looks like they are just based on stereotypes.

[xanemine]

She has brown hairs at best, look at other pics of her.

Consider this bad light of the old picture, under sunlight it's probably golden. Anyway..

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IFmXLrfzwjs/UE3xNclV1BI/AAAAAAAAzPo/h6q5uBJ8YWk/s1600/ana-hickmann-antes-de-ser-modelo.jpg

[saci]

She dyed to yellow-platinum blonde, her natural hair is dark blonde + she darkens her eyebrows

http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAgQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fotolog.com%2Ffco_anahickmann %2F40743312%2F&ei=x-lsVKKWDcGLgwTx4YCYAQ&psig=AFQjCNGUlpJhEPztWGWB5eNMiS-DdHVQuw&ust=1416510279301635
https://www.google.com.br/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogtvtudo.wordpress.com%2Ftag%2F ana-hickmann-antes-da-fama%2F&ei=DepsVI_0AsGqNuWVgqgN&bvm=bv.80120444,d.eXY&psig=AFQjCNH2K8rqg4E_rIelLhTbthYT5zRu6A&ust=1416510267210255

[SKYNET]

The map seems to be based solely on stereotypes of certain groups than anything else. Minnesota 65% blonde? I've been and its not, brown hair is the majority. Unless whoever made this map is counting light brown hair as blonde no way is it legit.




This.

[D´Sanglard]

a MAIORIA da população do sul vive em pequenas cidades que você falou, onde a população "loira" tende a ser grande como você falou! e mesmo nas grandes cidades não é dificil achar loiros.

A maioria da população vive nas grandes cidades. Eu disse que a maior parte dos louros você vê nas pequenas cidades. Nas grandes, o número é menor, entendeu?

25% é muita coisa.

Brasil não é Europa!

[Abeja]

ana hickmann has dyed hairs? lol full blood german!!!

Come on are you kidding me? Type her in google and see some pics of her. The hairs just out her head are clearly dark.

[Comte Arnau]

The map is wrong with Iberia, because those who're born blond here are immediately deported northwards to Barbaria. We must protect our hair dye industry.

[D´Sanglard]

ana hickmann has dyed hairs? lol full blood german!!!

I can post many germans with brown hair. In Ana Hickmann´s case, her hair is not yellow platinum-blonde. I think she´s blonde, but not this colour

[SKYNET]

brown turkic kavkazian shit like Reptile didn't like my previous post

[xanemine]

do redheads count? <3

http://www.celebank.com/cintia-dicker/cintia-dicker-11-1952-3000.jpg

[KawaiiKawaii]

Why are brown people obsessed with blondness?

[Ianus]

As usual, topics about blondism become as discussions as lenght of penis

[saci]

A maioria da população vive nas grandes cidades. Eu disse que a maior parte dos louros você vê nas pequenas cidades. Nas grandes, o número é menor, entendeu?

25% é muita coisa.

Brasil não é Europa!

eu não disse "brasil"!, estou me referindo apenas ao "sul" onde a maioria da população vive nas pequenas cidades onde a mais da metade da populaçaõ tende a ser a mistura de alemão, norte italianos e ucranianos e poloneses

[Abeja]

Consider this bad light of the old picture, under sunlight it's probably golden. Anyway..

[img]...

Man no offense but before commenting in this thread try first to learn the difference between dyed and natural hairs.

[D´Sanglard]

http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAgQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fotolog.com%2Ffco_anahickmann %2F40743312%2F&ei=x-lsVKKWDcGLgwTx4YCYAQ&psig=AFQjCNGUlpJhEPztWGWB5eNMiS-DdHVQuw&ust=1416510279301635
https://www.google.com.br/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogtvtudo.wordpress.com%2Ftag%2F ana-hickmann-antes-da-fama%2F&ei=DepsVI_0AsGqNuWVgqgN&bvm=bv.80120444,d.eXY&psig=AFQjCNH2K8rqg4E_rIelLhTbthYT5zRu6A&ust=1416510267210255

Blond hair is very common among europeans and withe children. When Grow up, normally changes the colour. The fact she was blond whe was a child means nothing in these days

[Abeja]

Blond hair is very common among europeans and withe children. When Grow up, normally changes the colour. The fact she was blond whe was a child means nothing in these days

Exactly.

[saci]

Come on are you kidding me? Type her in google and see some pics of her. The hairs just out her head are clearly dark.

lol dark:crazy::crazy:

[Abeja]

lol dark:crazy::crazy:

:picard1:

If you are not able to distinguish between natural and dyed blonde (quite easy and visible), well that's not my problem.

[D´Sanglard]

eu não disse "brasil"!, estou me referindo apenas ao "sul" onde a maioria da população vive nas pequenas cidades onde a mais da metade da populaçaõ tende a ser a mistura de alemão, norte italianos e ucranianos e poloneses

The same 25% is too much. End this useless discussion

[xanemine]

ok curupira

[curupira]

ok curupira

D'Sanglard is another person, and a Frenchman, ok? It is easy for a moderator here to check it.

One cannot say it is right when it comes to Argentina, Chile and Brazil. Argentina is mostly Spanish/Italian, with significant Native American input, it cannot be blonder than Spain or Italy, particularly the large parts of the interior it showed (even if it also has German/Eastern European/etc inputs). Southern Brazil has both significant African and Native American ancestries, and overall Portuguese input is larger than other European ancestries. And Chile has a too large Native American input.

The genetic reality of Chile (autosomal DNA study from 2014):
http://www.scielo.cl/pdf/rmc/v142n3/art01.pdf

http://i61.tinypic.com/rlaubp.jpg

The genetic reality of Argentina (autosomal DNA study from 2009):
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-1809.2009.00556.x/abstract;jsessionid=0C89BEAFEDE948486567257D8BB87D A4.f03t04

http://i62.tinypic.com/2q21dsm.png

The genetic reality of Brazil (autosomal DNA studies from 2011 and 2013):
http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0017063
http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjour nal.pone.0075145&representation=PDF

http://i59.tinypic.com/zmcn48.png
http://i60.tinypic.com/20igj13.jpg

[D´Sanglard]

ok curupira

You call me Curupira? Check my IP, Crétin!

[saci]

The same 25% is too much. End this useless discussion

eu não tenho dados oficiais e provavelmente nem você! e porque te desagrada tanto o sul ter certa % de loiros? eu percebo que para angloesfera e norte da europa o brasil não ser o paraiso de negros e mulatos como retratado no rio de janeiro e ser mais "europeu" em todos os sentidos da palavra imcomoda severamente muitos de vocês!

[Brighton]

http://i59.tinypic.com/zmcn48.png

This study is so fake.. why do some Brazilians wanna whitewash their country..

[saci]

:picard1:

If you are not able to distinguish between natural and dyed blonde (quite easy and visible), well that's not my problem.

she is not blonde?

[D´Sanglard]

eu não tenho dados oficiais e provavelmente nem você! e porque te desagrada tanto o sul ter certa % de loiros? eu percebo que para angloesfera e norte da europa o brasil não ser o paraiso de negros e mulatos como retratado no rio de janeiro e ser mais "europeu" em todos os sentidos da palavra imcomoda severamente muitos de vocês!

Você me ofende ao dizer que sou da "anglo-esfera". Eu sou Francês( francófone).

Não tenho nenhum problema. Apenas gosto de passar informações reais. Eu conheço muito bem seu país e 25 % é muita coisa. Ou você não sabe distinguir uma pessoa loura, que não é meu problema, ou não conhece seu país.

[saci]

Você me ofende ao dizer que sou da "anglo-esfera". Eu sou Francês( francófone).

Não tenho nenhum problema. Apenas gosto de passar informações reais. Eu conheço muito bem seu país e 25 % é muita coisa. Ou você não sabe distinguir uma pessoa loura, que não é meu problema, ou não conhece seu país.

eu disse "angloesfera" e "norte da europa"!, e como eu disse eu não tenho dados oficiais e você tambem não para dar % em regiões e no país inteiro! eu duvido seriamente que você viajou por todo país de verdade, você sabe muito sobre o rio de janeiro mas nem tanto sobre o resto do país.

[Smaug]

Are you kidding?

I'm sorry?

[Smaug]

We are speak about averages, not individuals. You can find Bulgarians like this (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?148380-Classify-Ivaylo-quot-the-Swede-quot-Dimitrov) as well.



Only her father, she looks like her Portuguese mother.

I'm sure she wouldn't look out of place in Bulgaria.

[Heldt]

http://i59.tinypic.com/zmcn48.png

This study is so fake.. why do some Brazilians wanna whitewash their country..

This is because African Brazilians are on average 40-45 % european, while browns are like 60-65 %. Whites range between 75-85 %. The average between 62.5 and 80 is 71.25, close to the study's findings. Really, I don't think we want to "whitewash" our country. We are mixed, but not "the largest black country outside Africa".

Anyway, I think 20 % is possible in the south, but 10-20 % in States like Rio, Minas or Goias is too much. There are blonds, but they are rare.

[SKYNET]

here goes holy jihad: wogs vs blondes

[LostInParadise]

Carol Trentini is half Italian half German, her phenotype is not rare at all in Southern Brazil, but not so common in Argentina

http://i.models.com/i/db/2014/4/251598/251598-500w.jpg

http://adycweb.com.ar/adyc/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/27-octubre-2012-590.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZUCuQYGG1Wo/UEXn6rYwHfI/AAAAAAAAAPU/d8Am8xElheA/s1600/MAY_5376.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_av8cUEhbXYs/SwBrGwrOXtI/AAAAAAAAADw/Y07_XoDh4pI/s1600/Hipico.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_av8cUEhbXYs/SwBT4sYotVI/AAAAAAAAABw/V3QAJhMCtb4/s1600/CAE.jpg
http://urdi24.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/yarara2.jpg?w=428
http://urdi24.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/yarara1.jpg?w=428
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eo0yGX8YtYE/Ul04di-AQJI/AAAAAAAAGC0/Il2aOfHWPzQ/s1600/Hockey+R%C3%ADo+Negro+Sub+16+Campe%C3%B3n.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-B2zahtoRB5Q/T1wmbFswj7I/AAAAAAAABhc/1x8v5lyN0Hk/s1600/hacoaj-hockey.jpg
http://www.cristalurdi.com.ar/images/noticias/Febrero%202010/HockeySub18-Baso.jpg
http://www.diariodepuan.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1deporetaparegular.jpg
http://santiagolawntennis.com.ar/blog/wp-content/uploads/13.jpg
http://www.rosariocentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Hockey-vsRemeros001.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-E5mb_5UUWkg/UFWx59jSBmI/AAAAAAAAIqA/n5eyGkqAPSo/s1600/22F_8251.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZejEpoeXXUE/UmE9ouMFmfI/AAAAAAAAMic/Tb1RGn3V54c/s1600/FACE+Cba+vs+Salta+1.jpg
http://www.diariouno.com.ar/export/1350341480957/sites/diariouno/imagenes/2012/10/15/hockey.jpg_274898881.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/yBXZJv6W*CqiPCkR1o41*OlzwlNjXB3xOTtXf6ep3b7GeTzO0A 1Nv-kBf18dKY7yg6GhZuJO*dOHOKwG44kn92ScniGnUJqh/Plantel6ta.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Gfd3RSZluxI/TsARXpSP-LI/AAAAAAAACnI/52azu4OOvYk/s1600/102_1923.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mxFmSY3ZTFQ/T116ofePoLI/AAAAAAAABSA/wmD_S5t1nwA/s1600/hockey%2BTemperley.jpg
http://www.diariouno.com.ar/export/1350341480957/sites/diariouno/imagenes/2012/10/15/hockey.jpg_274898881.jpg
http://190.3.127.36/export/sites/diariosanjuan8/imagenes/2012/09/14/san_juan.jpg_552074685.jpg

That's how looks the most "blondish" groups in Argentina. I pick hockey teams pictures, because is better example. I'm also blonde and play hockey jaja (I suck)

[saci]

This is because African Brazilians are on average 40-45 % european, while browns are like 60-65 % whites range between 75-85 %, the average between 62 and 80 is 71, close to the study's findings. Really, I don't think we want to "whitewash" my country. We are mixed, but not "the largest black country outside Africa".

Anyway, I think 20 % is possible in the south, but 10-20 % in States like Rio, Minas or Goias is too much. There are blonds, but they are rare.

browns are between 65% to 80% "Europeans" on average!

[saci]

This is because African Brazilians are on average 40-45 % european, while browns are like 60-65 % whites range between 75-85 %, the average between 62 and 80 is 71, close to the study's findings. Really, I don't think we want to "whitewash" my country. We are mixed, but not "the largest black country outside Africa".

Anyway, I think 20 % is possible in the south, but 10-20 % in States like Rio, Minas or Goias is too much. There are blonds, but they are rare.

the vast majority of whites are 90% "European" or more.

[LostInParadise]

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[D´Sanglard]

eu disse "angloesfera" e "norte da europa"!, e como eu disse eu não tenho dados oficiais e você tambem não para dar % em regiões e no país inteiro! eu duvido seriamente que você viajou por todo país de verdade, você sabe muito sobre o rio de janeiro mas nem tanto sobre o resto do país.

And "anglosphere " means what? and France is not Notherns europe as well. I´m francófone. Sorry to dissapoint you, but South Brazil is not scandinavia. It´s very similar to Languedoc- Roussillon, IMO, the Darkest region of France.

And curupira agree with me and showed genetic tests.

[saci]

http://adycweb.com.ar/adyc/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/27-octubre-2012-590.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZUCuQYGG1Wo/UEXn6rYwHfI/AAAAAAAAAPU/d8Am8xElheA/s1600/MAY_5376.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_av8cUEhbXYs/SwBrGwrOXtI/AAAAAAAAADw/Y07_XoDh4pI/s1600/Hipico.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_av8cUEhbXYs/SwBT4sYotVI/AAAAAAAAABw/V3QAJhMCtb4/s1600/CAE.jpg
http://urdi24.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/yarara2.jpg?w=428
http://urdi24.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/yarara1.jpg?w=428
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eo0yGX8YtYE/Ul04di-AQJI/AAAAAAAAGC0/Il2aOfHWPzQ/s1600/Hockey+R%C3%ADo+Negro+Sub+16+Campe%C3%B3n.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-B2zahtoRB5Q/T1wmbFswj7I/AAAAAAAABhc/1x8v5lyN0Hk/s1600/hacoaj-hockey.jpg
http://www.cristalurdi.com.ar/images/noticias/Febrero%202010/HockeySub18-Baso.jpg
http://www.diariodepuan.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1deporetaparegular.jpg
http://santiagolawntennis.com.ar/blog/wp-content/uploads/13.jpg
http://www.rosariocentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Hockey-vsRemeros001.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-E5mb_5UUWkg/UFWx59jSBmI/AAAAAAAAIqA/n5eyGkqAPSo/s1600/22F_8251.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZejEpoeXXUE/UmE9ouMFmfI/AAAAAAAAMic/Tb1RGn3V54c/s1600/FACE+Cba+vs+Salta+1.jpg
http://www.diariouno.com.ar/export/1350341480957/sites/diariouno/imagenes/2012/10/15/hockey.jpg_274898881.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/yBXZJv6W*CqiPCkR1o41*OlzwlNjXB3xOTtXf6ep3b7GeTzO0A 1Nv-kBf18dKY7yg6GhZuJO*dOHOKwG44kn92ScniGnUJqh/Plantel6ta.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Gfd3RSZluxI/TsARXpSP-LI/AAAAAAAACnI/52azu4OOvYk/s1600/102_1923.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mxFmSY3ZTFQ/T116ofePoLI/AAAAAAAABSA/wmD_S5t1nwA/s1600/hockey%2BTemperley.jpg
http://www.diariouno.com.ar/export/1350341480957/sites/diariouno/imagenes/2012/10/15/hockey.jpg_274898881.jpg
http://190.3.127.36/export/sites/diariosanjuan8/imagenes/2012/09/14/san_juan.jpg_552074685.jpg

??

[LostInParadise]

??

que?

[saci]

And "anglosphere " means what? and France is not Notherns europe as well. I´m francófone. Sorry to dissapoint you, but South Brazil is not scandinavia. It´s very similar to Languedoc- Roussillon, IMO, the Darkest Départament of France.

And curupira agree with me and showed genetic tests.

o que testes geneticos tem a ver com % de loiros? os testes geneticos testam pessoas das classes socias mais baixas da população principalmente favelas e periferias( se você mora no brasil sabe do que estou falando) eu duvido seriamente que você viajou por todo o país e o sul, se não saberia que 25% falava alemão no sul no começo do seculo 20 sem contar os que não falavam alemão e os mistos com outros europeus principalmente norte italianos e eslavos, eu não disse que parece a escandinavia e nem dei % como você faz!!

olha para testes feitos em são paulo pode variar extremamente porque entre baixo grau europeu(50% a 60%) e alto(80% a 85%) porque um pode estar testando nordestinos e uma grande % deles negros. o outro pode estar testando paulistas de origem por isso pode haver uma grande variação nos resultados.

[saci]

que?

muy pocas de ellas parecen Trentini.

[LostInParadise]

muy pocas de ellas parecen Trentini.

Ah

pasa que me citaste antes de que editara el comentario, fijate y vas a ver que puse eso al final:

http://adycweb.com.ar/adyc/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/27-octubre-2012-590.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZUCuQYGG1Wo/UEXn6rYwHfI/AAAAAAAAAPU/d8Am8xElheA/s1600/MAY_5376.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_av8cUEhbXYs/SwBrGwrOXtI/AAAAAAAAADw/Y07_XoDh4pI/s1600/Hipico.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_av8cUEhbXYs/SwBT4sYotVI/AAAAAAAAABw/V3QAJhMCtb4/s1600/CAE.jpg
http://urdi24.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/yarara2.jpg?w=428
http://urdi24.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/yarara1.jpg?w=428
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eo0yGX8YtYE/Ul04di-AQJI/AAAAAAAAGC0/Il2aOfHWPzQ/s1600/Hockey+R%C3%ADo+Negro+Sub+16+Campe%C3%B3n.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-B2zahtoRB5Q/T1wmbFswj7I/AAAAAAAABhc/1x8v5lyN0Hk/s1600/hacoaj-hockey.jpg
http://www.cristalurdi.com.ar/images/noticias/Febrero%202010/HockeySub18-Baso.jpg
http://www.diariodepuan.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1deporetaparegular.jpg
http://santiagolawntennis.com.ar/blog/wp-content/uploads/13.jpg
http://www.rosariocentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Hockey-vsRemeros001.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-E5mb_5UUWkg/UFWx59jSBmI/AAAAAAAAIqA/n5eyGkqAPSo/s1600/22F_8251.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZejEpoeXXUE/UmE9ouMFmfI/AAAAAAAAMic/Tb1RGn3V54c/s1600/FACE+Cba+vs+Salta+1.jpg
http://www.diariouno.com.ar/export/1350341480957/sites/diariouno/imagenes/2012/10/15/hockey.jpg_274898881.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/yBXZJv6W*CqiPCkR1o41*OlzwlNjXB3xOTtXf6ep3b7GeTzO0A 1Nv-kBf18dKY7yg6GhZuJO*dOHOKwG44kn92ScniGnUJqh/Plantel6ta.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Gfd3RSZluxI/TsARXpSP-LI/AAAAAAAACnI/52azu4OOvYk/s1600/102_1923.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mxFmSY3ZTFQ/T116ofePoLI/AAAAAAAABSA/wmD_S5t1nwA/s1600/hockey%2BTemperley.jpg
http://www.diariouno.com.ar/export/1350341480957/sites/diariouno/imagenes/2012/10/15/hockey.jpg_274898881.jpg
http://190.3.127.36/export/sites/diariosanjuan8/imagenes/2012/09/14/san_juan.jpg_552074685.jpg

That's how looks the most "blondish" groups in Argentina. I pick hockey teams pictures, because is better example. I'm also blonde and play hockey jaja (I suck)




Igual lo único que le veo distinto a "trentini" de una rubia tipo, es que ella tiene pecas (freckles)

[saci]

Ah

pasa que me citaste antes de que editara el comentario, fijate y vas a ver que puse eso al final:





Igual lo único que le veo distinto a "trentini" de una rubia tipo, es que ella tiene pecas (freckles)

Quiero decir que muy pocas tienen el pelo tan ligera como la suya.

[Abeja]

she is not blonde?

She confused you (and many others) because blonde hair looks natural in people with lighter complex skin like Ana.

One of the rare pic where she has almost entirely natural hairs (with little dyed blond stripes)
1.http://www.oficinadamoda.com.br/upload/imagens_upload/maquiagem_da_ana_hickmann.jpg

Here you can see the contrast even better at the top of the head
2.http://www.ofuxico.com.br/admin/smarty/templates/img_upload/2009/06/AnaHickmann-333-260609-renata.jpg

[JohnSmith]

http://zodiacadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/gisele-bundchen-hairstyle.jpg

[bezant]

EDITED

[xanemine]

http://adycweb.com.ar/adyc/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/27-octubre-2012-590.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZUCuQYGG1Wo/UEXn6rYwHfI/AAAAAAAAAPU/d8Am8xElheA/s1600/MAY_5376.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_av8cUEhbXYs/SwBrGwrOXtI/AAAAAAAAADw/Y07_XoDh4pI/s1600/Hipico.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_av8cUEhbXYs/SwBT4sYotVI/AAAAAAAAABw/V3QAJhMCtb4/s1600/CAE.jpg
http://urdi24.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/yarara2.jpg?w=428
http://urdi24.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/yarara1.jpg?w=428
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eo0yGX8YtYE/Ul04di-AQJI/AAAAAAAAGC0/Il2aOfHWPzQ/s1600/Hockey+R%C3%ADo+Negro+Sub+16+Campe%C3%B3n.JPG
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-B2zahtoRB5Q/T1wmbFswj7I/AAAAAAAABhc/1x8v5lyN0Hk/s1600/hacoaj-hockey.jpg
http://www.cristalurdi.com.ar/images/noticias/Febrero%202010/HockeySub18-Baso.jpg
http://www.diariodepuan.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/1deporetaparegular.jpg
http://santiagolawntennis.com.ar/blog/wp-content/uploads/13.jpg
http://www.rosariocentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Hockey-vsRemeros001.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-E5mb_5UUWkg/UFWx59jSBmI/AAAAAAAAIqA/n5eyGkqAPSo/s1600/22F_8251.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZejEpoeXXUE/UmE9ouMFmfI/AAAAAAAAMic/Tb1RGn3V54c/s1600/FACE+Cba+vs+Salta+1.jpg
http://www.diariouno.com.ar/export/1350341480957/sites/diariouno/imagenes/2012/10/15/hockey.jpg_274898881.jpg
http://api.ning.com/files/yBXZJv6W*CqiPCkR1o41*OlzwlNjXB3xOTtXf6ep3b7GeTzO0A 1Nv-kBf18dKY7yg6GhZuJO*dOHOKwG44kn92ScniGnUJqh/Plantel6ta.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Gfd3RSZluxI/TsARXpSP-LI/AAAAAAAACnI/52azu4OOvYk/s1600/102_1923.JPG
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mxFmSY3ZTFQ/T116ofePoLI/AAAAAAAABSA/wmD_S5t1nwA/s1600/hockey%2BTemperley.jpg
http://www.diariouno.com.ar/export/1350341480957/sites/diariouno/imagenes/2012/10/15/hockey.jpg_274898881.jpg
http://190.3.127.36/export/sites/diariosanjuan8/imagenes/2012/09/14/san_juan.jpg_552074685.jpg

That's how looks the most "blondish" groups in Argentina. I pick hockey teams pictures, because is better example. I'm also blonde and play hockey jaja (I suck)

German-Argentines are mostly Volga right? In souther Brazil most are from northern and west Germany, only a few from Southern Germany and Switzerland

[bezant]

yeah such european looks
https://s3.amazonaws.com/piktochartv2-dev/v2/uploads/765c057a-0f50-4fca-9163-d8b12b2be3fa/0633ec4593359e66f147ab91472c4c4bfd6a70cf_original. jpg
she looks mixed race brazilian rather than european. maybe she tans a lot or idk. but i don't really care, i won't reply to this roussef subject anymore
im not saying she's not white, i'm just saying she's atypical



She is just ugly. There are ugly people in Europe too,... did you know that?

[xanemine]

http://zodiacadvice.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/gisele-bundchen-hairstyle.jpg


Zimmermann >>>>> Bündchen

http://og.infg.com.br/in/3065978-acb-b59/FT1500A/550/Top-Rachel-Zimmermann-posa-em-Sao-PauloFoto-Marcos-AlvesAgencia-O-Globo.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/yopa_photos/Raquel-Zimmermann-2.jpg

http://www.celebdetail.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Raquel-Zimmermann-Boyfriend-Age-Biography.jpg

[saci]

She confused you (and many others) because blonde hair looks natural in people with lighter complex skin like Ana.

One of the rare pic where she has almost entirely natural hairs (with little dyed blond stripes)
1.http://www.oficinadamoda.com.br/upload/imagens_upload/maquiagem_da_ana_hickmann.jpg

Here you can see the contrast even better at the top of the head
2.http://www.ofuxico.com.br/admin/smarty/templates/img_upload/2009/06/AnaHickmann-333-260609-renata.jpg

natural hair =
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IFmXLrfzwjs/UE3xNclV1BI/AAAAAAAAzPo/h6q5uBJ8YWk/s1600/ana-hickmann-antes-de-ser-modelo.jpg

not blonde?

[Damião de Góis]

Only her father, she looks like her Portuguese mother.

Nope, she takes after her bulgarian father. Here she is with her brazilian mother:

http://www.laranjasnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/dilma-rousseff-dia-das-m%C3%A3es.jpg

[curupira]

"Whitewashing" is you dismissing genetic studies which show your country to have a large Native American (http://www.scielo.cl/pdf/rmc/v142n3/art01.pdf) and to suggest that Argentina or Chile would be blonder or as blond as parts of Spain, Portugal and Italy. Instead of focusing on real ancestry, you deflect trying to make your country "whiter" than it is.

That genetic study on Brazil is better than uneducated and biased guesses and your map. It measured real ancestry according to the proportions of "white", "pardo" and "black" Brazilians in each region of Brazil. It specifically aimed describing the composition of the country with samples from nearly all regions (almost 1000 samples), with "white", "pardo" and "black" samples according to their respective proportions (http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0017063).

The samples came for the most part from blood donors (http://www.amigodoador.com.br/estatisticas.html), which for the most part belong to the poorest classes of Brazil, therefore socio-economic levels mirror somewhat the situation of Brazil, where most people belong to the lower strata of society.

The 2011 Brazilian study cannot be that wrong, since one of the least European parts of Brazil, the Northeast was already found to be ~65% European in an American study: a study from 1965, "Methods of Analysis of a Hybrid Population" (Human Biology, vol 37, number 1), led by the geneticists D. F. Roberts e R. W. Hiorns, found out the average the Northeastern Brazilian to be predominantly European in ancestry (65%), with minor but important African and Native American contributions (25% and 9%)



http://i59.tinypic.com/zmcn48.png

This study is so fake.. why do some Brazilians wanna whitewash their country..

[Peter Nirsch]

20% Blondes in Brazil and Chile? WTF?

[Brighton]

20% Blondes in Brazil and Chile? WTF?
It's says 10% for Central and Southern Chile (less than 10% for Northern Chile), which I think it's alright if the maps talks about light hair.

[Brighton]

This is because African Brazilians are on average 40-45 % european, while browns are like 60-65 %. Whites range between 75-85 %. The average between 62.5 and 80 is 71.25, close to the study's findings. Really, I don't think we want to "whitewash" our country. We are mixed, but not "the largest black country outside Africa".

Anyway, I think 20 % is possible in the south, but 10-20 % in States like Rio, Minas or Goias is too much. There are blonds, but they are rare.

No yah I know but I just find it hard to believe Northeast Brazil to be more European than Central Chile (the most European Chilean region). Only 30% Africa in the Northeast seems underestimated. Also 75% European in the Southeast (which included RJ) seems overestimated according to what I saw in Sao Paulo city.

[Peter Nirsch]

It's says 10% for Central and Southern Chile (less than 10% for Northern Chile), which I think it's alright if the maps talks about light hair.

I agree,so it's possible.


What about red hair in South America?

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I00000s9M0SE4IPk/s/500/1011078.jpg

[WOOHP]

This is hilarious. Why are people talking about the frequency of blondes in countries like Brazil, Argentina or Chile? It's nearly non existent and very rare. First of all people need to stop telling themselves that most white people in these countries are mixed with Germans, Scandinavians, Eastern Euros etc. Everyone knows that Portuguese ancestry in Brazil and Spanish in Argentina/Chile exceed other ancestries(maybe Italian is as common as Spanish in Argentina). Secondly, being "white" in these countries could mean anything. If someone like Ronaldo(Brazilian Ronaldo) considers himself white then I don't know what to say, really.

And no, blonde does not mean "anything that's not dark brown or black".

[JohnSmith]

I really do not know enough about South America to comment all I can say is Blond hair is common in the USA where European live even among the southern European groups it happens

[Brighton]

I don't know why people think blondes are almost inexistent in Chile.. but anyway, here are some photos from a Chilean club. There are blondes indeed.

https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/1890633_246330648871986_206681560_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/1780202_247916765380041_1231704423_o.jpg

https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/1921214_247916598713391_1909355191_o.jpg

https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/1898855_247916112046773_529545542_o.jpg

https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/1617725_247914395380278_107680684_o.jpg

https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/1614106_247913785380339_1563421769_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/1962310_247913618713689_386644515_o.jpg

https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/l/t31.0-8/1912372_247875458717505_119018168_o.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1959379_246332892205095_734574444_n.jpg?oh=5ad339f c3d9d5a49edb69322457d4b49&oe=54E65FB3&__gda__=1423544914_38d7d369e40c42eb1b2b2156a15daa9 9

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/1911006_246332445538473_1330296858_o.jpg

[Elsa]

I'd be interested in seeing where the data for this map came from, and what shades were counted as blond.

[Damião de Góis]

I'd be interested in seeing where the data for this map came from, and what shades were counted as blond.

The data is someone's wild guess.

[Brighton]

I'd be interested in seeing where the data for this map came from, and what shades were counted as blond.

I read it was from a Japanese study actually.

[Elsa]

I read it was from a Japanese study actually.

Explains the anime then. xD

[WOOHP]

I have been to Minnesota and your right it is no way in hell 65% blond. The blondest state is Utah I would say.

It's a bit confusing. Light brown is considered "blonde". 65% blonde and light brown isn't far off.

I agree with that Minnesota isn't the lightest region(but surely a contestor), I would say the Dakotas.

[JohnSmith]

It's a bit confusing. Light brown is considered "blonde". 65% blonde and light brown isn't far off.

I agree with that Minnesota isn't the lightest region(but surely a contestor), I would say the Dakotas.

I have been to the Midwest in the USA and brown is definitely the most common. There are some pockets of more blonds in some areas but Utah is also very blond. If you factor light brown and blond together then you may get to around 50% in some parts of Minnesota, Iowa and the Dakotas.

[JohnSmith]

It's a bit confusing. Light brown is considered "blonde". 65% blonde and light brown isn't far off.

I agree with that Minnesota isn't the lightest region(but surely a contestor), I would say the Dakotas.


It is a bit complicated in the USA especially for Southern European. The stereotypes are strong here,Hollywood loves making Italians look like Sicilian criminals here. All the time in the USA since my brother is blond and Italian, people ask where did he get the blond hair. People are shocked to see an Italian with blond hair but the Tuscan side of my family has blondism. My children are pretty blond also.

I agree light brown should be clustered with blond.

[War Chef]

brown turkic kavkazian shit like Reptile didn't like my previous post

Go cry about it more "western boy" A.K.A Romanian midget.

[Guapo]

http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/252/f/4/blonde_hair_map_by_schrodinger_excidium-d7yjja3.png

Seems relatively accurate in my opinion.

I'd say Britain is definitely accurate. Teh Saxons and Angle phenotypes prevail in the east.

[SKYNET]

Go cry about it more "western boy" A.K.A Romanian midget.



go kill yourself turkic-kavkazian-ossetian wide-faced swarthy muhammad

[War Chef]

go kill yourself turkic-kavkazian-ossetian wide-faced swarthy muhammad

Says the guy with brown eyes and black hair :lol00002:

[SKYNET]

Says the guy with brown eyes and black hair :lol00002:




I look like stears, fuck off

[KawaiiKawaii]

I look like stears, fuck off

Aren't you Chechen?

[War Chef]

I look like stears, fuck off

No, you look like the excrement that comes out of my ass.


Aren't you Chechen?

He's a Roma-nian.

[SKYNET]

Aren't you Chechen?



Yes, I'm Chechen and I'm ready to kick out Reptile's ass right now

[War Chef]

Yes, I'm Chechen and I'm ready to kick out Reptile's ass right now

You are a walking skeleton, good luck.

[SKYNET]

You are a walking skeleton, good luck.



said a square-headed scumbag

[Matt5898]

The map is really not bad (the best I've ever seen about hair colour).
However there're some fails, I'm sure there're no 65+% blonde areas outside some parts of Sweden and Finland. IMHO, ranging "who is ligher - who is darker" is accurate, but %% of it should be lower - not 65 but 50, not 50 but 30 and so on.
Also Poland is not darker than Ukraine, and I don't believe that Argentina is more blond than Spain & Italy. There're some points about Russia but they are too special and not interesting for non-Russians I guess.

[KawaiiKawaii]

You are a walking skeleton, good luck.


said a square-headed scumbag

I started a war.

[Gaston]

The map is wrong in the fact that regions with minor rates of blondism (Western Asia and North Africa) are grouped with regions with no occurence of blondism. It also includes Aboriginal children, which is a different type of blondism that oftentimes doesn't persist at the adult stage.


Also big lol at the anime characters, the credibility is near 0 with this choice.

[Abeja]

natural hair =
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IFmXLrfzwjs/UE3xNclV1BI/AAAAAAAAzPo/h6q5uBJ8YWk/s1600/ana-hickmann-antes-de-ser-modelo.jpg

not blonde?

White people when younger are blonde. With time they get brunette. I was ash blonde too when I was a kid, that doesn't make me a blonde now that my hairs are brown.

[Tooting Carmen]

The map is meant to say light hair, not blonde hair (i.e. including light brown and red hair). Here are the councillors from Leicester, Leeds and York, where according to this map 65%+ of people have blonde hair. Quite frankly, it is a ludicrous estimate. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?102074-Councillors-from-Leicester-East-Midlands-England&highlight=councillors+leicester http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?99855-Councillors-from-Leeds-West-Yorkshire-North-of-England&highlight=councillors+leeds http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?99925-Councillors-from-York-North-of-England&highlight=councillors+york (However, if you include light brown and red hair, then that figure is quite plausible).

[saci]

White people when younger are blonde. With time they get brunette. I was ash blonde too when I was a kid, that doesn't make me a blonde now that my hairs are brown.

She has nearly 20 years in this photo.

[Grace O'Malley]

Where are the statistics coming from? A lot of these maps are bogus. There has been no wide scale population studies done on countries on things like hair and eye colour. There has been small regional studies but that's it. I bet my little cotton socks a lot of this is guess work. Most of these sort of maps posted aren't scientifically valid. Who made the map for starters? Anyway I'll read the rest of the thread.

[WOOHP]

Where are the statistics coming from? A lot of these maps are bogus. There has been no wide scale population studies done on countries on things like hair and eye colour. There has been small regional studies but that's it. I bet my little cotton socks a lot of this is guess work. Most of these sort of maps posted aren't scientifically valid. Who made the map for starters? Anyway I'll read the rest of the thread.
Actually. I think that the map is based upon this "study": http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?35882-New-Hair-and-Eye-color-statistics-%282011%29

Here's his comment: "Tony, you asked me to compile a statistic for hair and eye color for the following 55 countries and 16 ethnic groups. I used over 10,000 samples to complete that task. That included soccer players of age 20-30 for all statistical purposes, politicians for further refinement of our Eye color data and other representable groups of people when needed. Our samples are of wide geographic distribution instead of focusing on just one or few places within a country and all major nations have 300+ representatives. The stats ignore recent immigration influences in Europe and include only Caucasian Latin Americans, non-Hispanic Whites and Slavic Russians respectively for the US and Russia. I also added regional averages for comparison purposes. As you requested I used the following categorizations and listed the units in descending EI order:"

* Light Hair – includes Blond, Red and Light Brown hair color
* Light Eyes – includes eyes of predominantly Blue, Gray or Green color
* Blue Eyes - includes only unmixed blue eyes

And the map of light hair in Europe:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-aOLKFCqDMh0/T__9VubC9rI/AAAAAAAAAA4/5MAj7WqaKaQ/s1600/europe-hair0223--light-h.png

[Stimpy]

I think Greece and the Balkans have more blondish than the map represents but it seems pretty accurate besides

Blonde Greeks are probably like 2% in adult age. Definitely not over 10%.
Other Balkans is different and depends on region. I think the map is relatively correct.

[Bell Beaker]

Bullshit map!

[Cristiano viejo]

It's actually easier to find a NATURAL blonde person in Santiago or Buenos Aires than in a city in Andalusia.
:laugh2:


This happens cos Spaniards are rather homogenous (most of them are brown-haired with this olive tone)
:laugh2:


whilst, at least in Santiago, you've got extremely Indigenous-looking people in the working classes and extremely British/German-looking people in the upper classes.

That Nordic-looking minority in the Southern Cone is still bigger than among Spaniards, since they did not colonise regions of their country with Germans in the 19th century.
:laugh2:

[Empecinado]

It's actually easier to find a NATURAL blonde person in Santiago or Buenos Aires than in a city in Andalusia.

No. In fact Andalusia is one of the regions with highest number of natural blondes, like this one from Sevilla:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/e5Yib3vq4Eg/hqdefault.jpg


This happens cos Spaniards are rather homogenous (most of them are brown-haired with this olive tone) whilst, at least in Santiago, you've got extremely Indigenous-looking people in the working classes and extremely British/German-looking people in the upper classes.

That Nordic-looking minority in the Southern Cone is still bigger than among Spaniards, since they did not colonise regions of their country with Germans in the 19th century.

Better don't make assumptions if you don't know shit. Some parts of Andalusia were colonized with Germans, Swiss and Dutch in the late 18th century:

https://es.noticias.yahoo.com/blogs/cuaderno-de-historias/cuando-carlos-iii-llen%C3%B3-sierra-morena-colonos-alemanes-141329264.html

http://elpais.com/diario/1983/05/22/espana/422402408_850215.html

[Brighton]

Why are Spaniards so sensitive about being darker than most Europeans. You tan better you should be happy about that.. At least I am

[Empecinado]

Why are Spaniards so sensitive about being darker than most Europeans. You tan better you should be happy about that.. At least I am

I have only answered to your absurd statements.

[JohnSmith]

Blonde Greeks are probably like 2% in adult age. Definitely not over 10%.
Other Balkans is different and depends on region. I think the map is relatively correct.

The map includes light brown as blond, I am sure that is higher than 2% in Greece.

[JohnSmith]

Unlikely. 'Cording to Coon light brown is around 15 to 20%, it's actual blond that's rare. (and it should be in sub 7% levels def)


Well then the map is way off. Because the parts of the USA it says are over 65% are then way off if it does not include light brown.

[aimar]

No. In fact Andalusia is one of the regions with highest number of natural blondes, like this one from Sevilla:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/e5Yib3vq4Eg/hqdefault.jpg



Curious you say that, because I think Alentejo, across the border from Andalusia also has more blondes than for example my region, a few hundred kilometers further north.

[Tooting Carmen]

@Brighton: While it is certainly true that most Andalusians are far from being Nordic gods, nevertheless the idea that Chileans are lighter than them is just preposterous. Having visited Santiago, Puerto Varas and Puerto Montt in 2008, I can honestly say that the supposed 'whiteness' of Chileans is RIDICULOUSLY overrated, especially when compared to Argentina, which is genuinely White. Furthermore, I believe that Northern Chile, which I didn't visit, is even more indigenous-leaning still. On the other hand, you are right that some Spaniards can be complexed about being relatively dark-complexioned compared to many other Europeans.

[Cristiano viejo]

On the other hand, you are right that some Spaniards can be complexed about being relatively dark-complexioned compared to many other Europeans.
Say their names, come on.

[Tooting Carmen]

Say their names, come on.

You, for starters.

[Cristiano viejo]

You, for starters.

How can be I complex, if I am pale skin, retarded?

[Tooting Carmen]

How can be I complex, if I am pale skin, retarded?

What I mean is you are complexed that a considerable percentage of your fellow countrymen are not, though, and nor can most cases be attributed to Gypsies or foreigners.

[askra]

This is the site of the person who realised that map
a deviantart member http://schrodinger-excidium.deviantart.com/gallery/ more than an anthropologist seems a big fan of "My Little Pony"!
And yes the 25-30% of population in Argentina and Chile (between 2,5 and 3 inhabitants each 10 persons) are natural blondes, +10% of the Sami from Scandinavia according to the map LOL

[JohnSmith]

Being tan is not bad, it certainly helps in getting a girlfriend trust me.:)

[Brighton]

I have only answered to your absurd statements.

Yah the fact that you say stuff such as "you don't know shit" or "your absurd statements" just proves how much it affects you to be called "darker" or whatever. Such massive complex dude, work it out.

[Brighton]

This is the site of the person who realised that map
a deviantart member http://schrodinger-excidium.deviantart.com/gallery/ more than an anthropologist seems a great fun of My Little Pony!
And yes the 25-30% of population in Argentina and Chile (between 2,5 and 3 inhabitants each 10 persons) are natural blondes, the same percentage of the Sami from northern Scandinavia according to the map LOL
Dude did you even take geography? Chile has 10% of people with light hair circa according to the map, not 25-30% "LOL"

[Empecinado]

Yah the fact that you say stuff such as "you don't know shit" or "your absurd statements" just proves how much it affects you to be called "darker" or whatever. Such massive complex dude, work it out.

I respond in the same way to any absurd statement regardless the subject, and it's you who is bringing up the "darker" stuff and accusing me of being complexed when I haven't even mentioned it. The only complexed here it's you, trying to pass Chile for something that is not. Yes, I know that in your country being blonde or lighter means higher social status because the upper classes there are so, but don't try to project it on us, here these things don't happen. The "blondest, the better" is something Third Worldish to me.

[Brighton]

@Brighton: While it is certainly true that most Andalusians are far from being Nordic gods, nevertheless the idea that Chileans are lighter than them is just preposterous. Having visited Santiago, Puerto Varas and Puerto Montt in 2008, I can honestly say that the supposed 'whiteness' of Chileans is RIDICULOUSLY overrated, especially when compared to Argentina, which is genuinely White. Furthermore, I believe that Northern Chile, which I didn't visit, is even more indigenous-leaning still. On the other hand, you are right that some Spaniards can be complexed about being relatively dark-complexioned compared to many other Europeans.
I did not say that Chileans are lighter than Andalusians, that's not true of course

I said that Andalusians are more homogenous whilst Chile has a minority of people with German/British ancestry who are genuinely blonde (a kind of light blonde which is hard to find among Southern Spaniards). So yah, what I meant was that if we are talking about true blondes the percentage in Santiago or Southern Chile is probs higher than the percentage in Andalusia (even if this is 2% vs. 1%).

--

Also, to be completely honest your opinion about Chileans lost credibility when you said they were similar-looking to Colombians/Mexicans - one of my best friends is studying abroad in Bogota -supposedly one of the whitest places in Colombia- and she said they were quite darker than Chileans. And yes, she doesn't care about anything so she is definitely objective.

[Tooting Carmen]

I did not say that Chileans are lighter than Andalusians, that's not true of course

I said that Andalusians are more homogenous whilst Chile has a minority of people with German/British ancestry who are genuinely blonde (a kind of light blonde which is hard to find among Southern Spaniards). So yah, what I meant was that if we are talking about true blondes the percentage in Santiago or Southern Chile is probs higher than the percentage in Andalusia (even if this is 2% vs. 1%).

--

Also, to be completely honest your opinion about Chileans lost credibility when you said they were similar-looking to Colombians/Mexicans - one of my best friends is studying abroad in Bogota -supposedly one of the whitest places in Colombia- and she said they were quite darker than Chileans. And yes, she doesn't care about anything so she is definitely objective.

Where did I say that Chileans look like Mexicans and Colombians? I would agree that they are not as dark as those two groups, and crucially they lack the Black influence that many Colombians have. However, it is equally true that Chileans are quite markedly darker than Argentines and Uruguayans - crossing the border I was quite shocked by the difference between Chileans and Argentines, in fact.

[Cristiano viejo]

What I mean is you are complexed that a considerable percentage of your fellow countrymen are not, though, and nor can most cases be attributed to Gypsies or foreigners.
What?? when have I deny that percentage??
That % is shared by a lot of European countries. Why should I feel any complex? again, you lose. Your argument-insult about the complex in Spaniards is ridicolous. Rather you are that complex, you are Sudaca here.


Yah the fact that you say stuff such as "you don't know shit" or "your absurd statements" just proves how much it affects you to be called "darker" or whatever. Such massive complex dude, work it out.

You know a shit, it is true. You did not know the German settlements in Andalusia, for example.
And telling that there are more blondes in Chile than in Andalusia, well... pufffffffffff
Funny thing is that your argument is based in "Scando immigrants". Do you know how many Scando are living in Andalusia?

btw dont talk about being dark, or I will die to laugh, Chilean boy.

[Brighton]

I respond in the same way to any absurd statement regardless the subject, and it's you who is bringing up the "darker" stuff and accusing me of being complexed when I haven't even mentioned it. The only complexed here it's you, trying to pass Chile for something that is not. Yes, I know that in your country being blonde or lighter means higher social status because the upper classes there are so, but don't try to project it on us, here these things don't happen. The "blondest, the better" is something Third Worldish to me.

I just feel you are being a bit too aggressive about the subject which clearly shows how much it affects you this "darkness".

I am not trying to pass Chile for something it is not.

First of all, you have never been to Chile.

Second, I have said that if this maps is about light hair, 10% seems about right regarding Chile. If it is about "pure blondes", then not. But again, then Kent is also not 65%, or Minnesota either for instance.

Third, Spaniards in these forums are indeed complexed about being darker than most Europeans, whether you like it or not. You're a perfect example.

Fourth, if Chileans are racist in this regards is thanks to the colonial system some people -who, oh wow, happened to be SPANIARDS- built here.

[ChocolateFace]

Not accurate.

[Tooting Carmen]

What?? when have I deny that percentage??

It is true that you don't deny it in quite the same way that e.g. Anthropologique does, but you still seek to minimise and downplay it.


That % is shared by a lot of European countries.

Depends if you think that the combination of Portugal, Italy, Greece, Malta, Cyprus and maybe Albania, Bulgaria and one or two other Balkan countries counts as "a lot of European countries".


Why should I feel any complex? again, you lose. Your argument-insult about the complex in Spaniards is ridicolous. Rather you are that complex, you are Sudaca here.

Whatever. Your touchiness is quite evident. Anyway, this is my last post about this and I do not wish to go off-topic any further.

[Empecinado]

I just feel you are being a bit too aggressive about the subject which clearly shows how much it affects you this "darkness".

I am not trying to pass Chile for something it is not.

First of all, you have never been to Chile.

Second, I have said that if this maps is about light hair, 10% seems about right regarding Chile. If it is about "pure blondes", then not. But again, then Kent is also not 65%, or Minnesota either for instance.

Third, Spaniards in these forums are indeed complexed about being darker than most Europeans, whether you like it or not. You're a perfect example.

Fourth, if Chileans are racist in this regards is thanks to the colonial system some people -who, oh wow, happened to be SPANIARDS- built here.

When I did mention something about being darker or not? Dude, I just answered to your statement about Santiago having more blondes than a city of Andalusia, which is simply absurd. But you answered with something that had nothing to do with the subject, saying that "Spanish are complexed for being darker than most Europeans" and shit like that, which proves that its you who is complexed.

Spaniards of this forum are the least complexed nationality. We don't open threads to troll other ethnicities, we don't continuosly post our photos asking for classification or with a light focus on our faces, I have even opened a thread with a recopilation of all kinds of phenotypes from lightest to darkest. It's always the others, always complexed people like you, who write messages to attack us, to compare us or to accuse us of being something that we are not, as is the case now.

[Brighton]

Where did I say that Chileans look like Mexicans and Colombians? I would agree that they are not as dark as those two groups, and crucially they lack the Black influence that many Colombians have. However, it is equally true that Chileans are quite markedly darker than Argentines and Uruguayans - crossing the border I was quite shocked by the difference between Chileans and Argentines, in fact.
You did. Also, I don't know if you visited many cities but I've been to the Chilean and the Argentinean Patagonia and the difference is not big at all.

It is a very big difference between Santiago and Buenos Aires, I concede that.


What?? when have I deny that percentage??
That % is shared by a lot of European countries. Why should I feel any complex? again, you lose. Your argument-insult about the complex in Spaniards is ridicolous. Rather you are that complex, you are Sudaca here.

You know a shit, it is true. You did not know the German settlements in Andalusia, for example.
And telling that there are more blondes in Chile than in Andalusia, well... pufffffffffff
Funny thing is that your argument is based in "Scando immigrants". Do you know how many Scando are living in Andalusia?

btw dont talk about being dark, or I will die to laugh, Chilean boy.
Why should you be complexed? Well, YOU SHOULD NOT. But you do anyway, which is a pity.

Also, this "Sudaca" thing? Please dude, grown up.

Why do you even get so aggressive about such silly stuff.. "we are blonder than Argentineans blah blah".. dude like.. so unnecessary.

And yes, I bet Andalusia must have plenty of German settlements.. I certainly saw them whilst traveling to Seville, Granada and Almeria. Such a German vibe.

The problem is not being dark (clearly), the problem is being complexed about it. "I will die to laugh" -> I assume you meant "I will die laughing"?? Anyhow...



When I did mention something about being darker or not? Dude, I just answered to your statement about Santiago having more blondes than a city of Andalusia, which is simply absurd. But you continued talking about "Spanish being complexed for being darker than most Europeans" and shit like that, with 0 relationship with the subject, which proves that its you who is complexed.

Spaniards of this forum are the least complexed nationality. We don't open threads to troll other ethnicities, we don't continuosly post our photos asking for classification or with a light focus on our faces, I have even opened a thread with a recopilation of all kinds of phenotypes from lightest to darkest. It's always the others, always complexed people like you, who write messages to attack us, to compare us or to accuse us of being something that we are not, as is the case now.
Dude, I just said that if we take into account "true blondes" (which is like, light blondes and not light brunettes which the map clearly includes) Santiago's percentage could be higher because there's a minority of blue-eyed blonde people here -descended from a lot of different stuff- whilst Andalusians are predominantly dark and even if there are plenty of light-eyed people they tend to have dark hair, which is normal since Andalusians are Spaniards of Spaniard ancestry whilst Santiaguinos are Chileans of Spaniard, Indigenous, British, French, Palestine, German, Italian, blah blah ancestry. Now, this "higher percentage" could be, I don't know, 4% vs. 3%? or something.. I don't know why are we making such a huge deal out of it..

I am not complexed btw haha.. funny thing is you guys say I wanna be paler even though I spent the last week tanning in order to NOT be pale.

[Cristiano viejo]

It is true that you don't deny it in quite the same way that e.g. Anthropologique does, but you still seek to minimise and downplay it
In the same way than you maximize. Now it is when I must call you "complex": You are a complex, La vita e ossesione per la Spagna! and dont complain, I just follow your logic.
btw how many threads haveyou opne today about Spaniards, complex guy?



Depends if you think that the combination of Portugal, Italy, Greece, Malta, Cyprus and maybe Albania, Bulgaria and one or two other Balkan countries counts as "a lot of European countries".
Yes, these are a lot of countries, taking account that Europe has not two thousand countries last time I checked.
You can add Romania (I have been and I know by first hand), Serbia, Bosnia, at least. Even Russia must have a considerable % of dark people.

[askra]

Dude did you even take geography? Chile has 10% of people with light hair circa according to the map, not 25-30% "LOL"

In the map it's written between 10-20%
if it was 10% (as you say), it means that each 10 persons that live in Chile one has natural blonde hair.

This is a facebook group from the Universidad Central de Chile (and i'm pretty sure university students in Chile are mainly from european ethnic upper classes)
https://www.facebook.com/UniversidadCentral/friends?collection_token=1042601297%3A2356318349%3 A2&next_cursor=MDpub3Rfc3RydWN0dXJlZDo3MTUyNzkyMDQ%3D


Are you able to pick 1 blonde hair person each 10?

[♥ Lily ♥]

Spain may not have the most blonds in the world, but who cares as Meds are handsome and have a reputation for being very sensual, artistic, loving and romantic people. I think Spain and the Med nations have very handsome men, especially the ones with gorgeous dark hair.

[WOOHP]

How can be I complex, if I am pale skin, retarded?

How can anyone have missed that you've created like 200 threads about light complexed Spaniards? You're obsessed with the idea of making Spaniards lighter than what they appear.

I saw your pic, and you look like Jewish/British/Polish American actor Miles Teller.

[WOOHP]

German settlers in Chile, in Argentina, in Brazil, in Andalusia... Pathetic :laugh2:

[Cristiano viejo]

How can anyone have missed that you've created like 200 threads about light complexed Spaniards? You're obsessed with the idea of making Spaniards lighter than what they appear.
Explain how if I post Spaniards, Spaniards can look lighter than they are :lol:
Dont call me obsessed when from each 10 posts you post, 20 are anti-Spanish :rolleyes:


I saw your pic, and you look like Jewish/British/Polish American actor Miles Teller.
Yes yes yes, he is my twin, yes yes yes. I am more handsome :icon_lol:

[WOOHP]

Explain how if I post Spaniards, Spaniards can look lighter than they are :lol:
Dont call me obsessed when from each 10 posts you post, 20 are anti-Spanish :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
You post only light Spaniards and become suspicious whenever a "dark" Spaniard is posted. You're clearly very complexed just like Kylie said.
I'm not anti-Spanish. I'm just anti people who have the agenda to make their ethnicity appear lighter than what it really is. Like the Atlantic Fuckade league and your desperate attempt to connect Iberians with Brits.