Far right online radio in Europe?

[Austin]

Can somebody give me some? I know most the far right online radio streams here in the U.S. but I cannot seem to find the European equivalents.

I am talking like real far right and or nationalist ones, are there any?

[The Lawspeaker]

That's because we barely have an opposition here. If any.
I am sure GroeneWolf knows a Dutch version but that's all in Dutch.

[Groenewolf]

Alto it is in Dutch :

http://www.radiorapaille.com/

[Lulletje Rozewater]

Alto it is in Dutch :

http://www.radiorapaille.com/

Brilliant thanks

[Austin]

Yeah okay thanks yall

[Svanhild]

Here's a nationalist online radio from Germany. Moderated program from 18.00 till 24.00.

http://www.nationales-radio.com/

Program: http://www.nationales-versandhaus.com/Sendeplan/index.php

[Arrow Cross]

http://www.nationales-radio.com/
Uhh, that's pretty hardcore. Thanks.

Here's one from the Carpathian Basin, the Holy Crown Radio (http://szentkoronaradio.com/hallgatas) that's both far-right and mainstream now (:cool:), outside of streaming various social, political and cultural programs, it also plays a lot of exclusively Magyar music - most of it isn't my type being so modern, but they should give you an insight into the right-wing electric music of the 80s/90s/00s Hungary.

Edit: just noticed an old folk song reproduced as rock. No comment... :lmao

[Austin]

Alto it is in Dutch :

http://www.radiorapaille.com/

Oh I like the music played on that especially:D

[Osweo]

'Far Right' is not a term I like to identify with, nor do the BNP, but here's our British National Party's 'online TV' thingy:
http://tv.bnp.org.uk/

[Lenny]

'Far Right' is not a term I like to identify with, nor do the BNP, but here's our British National Party's 'online TV' thingy:
http://tv.bnp.org.uk/
A few years back there was a mini-controversy about that very thing, I vaguely recall. The BNP's platform was actually left-wing or libertarian in most every sense except on the Race Question. Yet they are still called "Extreme Right Wing", which makes no sense. A few of the sensible people yet left on the sinking "H.M.S. Albion" wrote columns in newspapers about this, but were of course ignored.

What is the best label for the BNP and similar parties? That's a good question.

"Nationalist"? Somewhat pejorative, and not as accurate as possible. (They don't favor black native-born English nationals over white Dutchmen living in England).
"White Nationalist"? Too associated with clownery to be used, and not even accurate for the BNP.
Racist? God, no.
Racialist? Better, but too obscure and confused with "racist".
Patriotic? No, because patriotism is always relative. A patriot is simply one who enthusiastically supports his Ruling Ideology. A patriot in 1979 Moscow was a Good-Communist. A true-blue (true-red) Communist in 1979 London was a subversive, anti-patriot. Whatever a 'patriot' is in 2010 London, it's certainly not a BNP member.
The English language as it exists today lacks a term for what the BNP represents, politically. In this case, it is suitable to borrow a word from a foreign language to fill the void : I like the German word "voelkisch" in this case: Capitalists are advocates of a future in which free-market capitalism is safe, Socialists are advocates of efforts to a more socially-equitable future among classes, and Voelkisch-ists are advocates of their 'Volk' and its right to exist into the future. I recognize that this term will not catch on either, for various reasons.

Other ideas?

[Osweo]

What is the best label for the BNP and similar parties? That's a good question.
It is, but it's not quite as much a problem for us here.

"Nationalist"? Somewhat pejorative, and not as accurate as possible. (They don't favor black native-born English nationals over white Dutchmen living in England).
Now, a third generation West Indian in London is 'native' by virtue of having been born here, by strict etymological reasoning. Yet an Englishman born in India in the 1930s would not have been described as 'a native'. 'Native' has associations beyond its stricter linguistic background. You could call the real Englishman 'a true native' and get away with it in most contexts, though not in the official media.

'National' - to you that means merely 'citizen', whereas that's not the case here, or at least wasn't until your terminology started to leak over and was cleverly picked up by our enemies as something to trip us up with. My state is the United Kingdom, and it's agreed that there are several nations within it. Thus we can be British, but not English. I favour using only 'English' to describe what you might call a 'white Englishman', and not stretching the term 'English' to cover mere political allegiances. There is a grey area for the fully acculturated, but no definition is watertight, and clearer problems must be dealt with before we start getting involved in unnecessary absurdities.

'Nationalist' therefore refers to traditional nations, which you are member of by ancestry. You are born into the community, not a piece of land - that is the distinction. Nations are people, not territory.

The BNP has a problem in so far as there isn't quite a 'British Nation', but bundle of British nations. Purists say you can't be a 'British Nationalist', seeing it as an oxymoron. I would say that an honest appeal to pragmatism is enough to overturn this. Our problems on this island are common, and need to dealt with as such. THat's why they call themselves 'National' not 'Nationalist' in the BNP title.

To my mind 'Nationalist' should only mean 'person who acknowledges the importance of national belonging in political life'.

This is really all quite elementary, yet people will argue about it till the cows come home. Or the Caliphs, rather. :rolleyes:

[The Ripper]

A few years back there was a mini-controversy about that very thing, I vaguely recall. The BNP's platform was actually left-wing or libertarian in most every sense except on the Race Question. Yet they are still called "Extreme Right Wing", which makes no sense. A few of the sensible people yet left on the sinking "H.M.S. Albion" wrote columns in newspapers about this, but were of course ignored.

Virtually all far-right parties have "leftist" economic policies. The political left-right axis is not calibrated according to economic policy only. Originally it was a division between the Ancien Regime, the old order and those who wanted a new order. The Bourgeoise, who are now associated with "the Right" were actually the first leftists.

[Lenny]

Thank you for that interesting commentary Osweo;


To my mind 'Nationalist' should only mean 'person who acknowledges the importance of national belonging in political life'.
This is an ideal definition, if it were specified explicitly that Nation=[Ancestry]+[Culture], with the former being given more weight. (You say that is implied.)

Marketability matters. If the common person in Britain interprets the word in that way, it is a perfect fit.

One other potential problem with the "nationalist" label : It has a connotation (to my ear) of "supporting your own Nation above all", and opposing others nearby. No one thinks like that in this day and age. Any sensible European racialist today must realize that all racial-Europeans are "in the same boat". Nationalist successes in a neighboring-country are -- generally -- just as much 'good news' as nationalist success in one's own country.

Does the word "Pan-Nationalism" exist?

[Osweo]

Thank you for that interesting commentary Osweo;
:thumb001: I think these points are worth making again and again. You never know who's reading who might take something useful away with them.

This is an ideal definition, if it were specified explicitly that Nation=[Ancestry]+[Culture], with the former being given more weight. (You say that is implied.)

Marketability matters. If the common person in Britain interprets the word in that way, it is a perfect fit.
There is a real struggle here. Could go either way, I'm afraid. Our comrades need to be more proactive in defining the terms. Immensely difficult, given the media stranglehold, but we must use what opportunities we get.

One other potential problem with the "nationalist" label : It has a connotation (to my ear) of "supporting your own Nation above all", and opposing others nearby. No one thinks like that in this day and age. Any sensible European racialist today must realize that all racial-Europeans are "in the same boat". Nationalist successes in a neighboring-country are -- generally -- just as much 'good news' as nationalist success in one's own country.

Does the word "Pan-Nationalism" exist?
It does now, at least. :thumb001:

My answer to this important point, is that modern Nationalism needs to really purge itself of Imperialism, Jingoism, and all other distasteful accretions that mark us out as mere 'haters'. Honest open relationships need to be fostered with neighbours, acknowledging inter-relationships of blood and culture that were hushed up in the pre-War period.

By calling yourself a Nationalist, you show that you believe in the real effectiveness in reality of links between peoples at a high level. The logical next step to take in your mind is to look at the similar groupings BEYOND the nation. Meta-ethnicity, macro-regional ties, ancient common ancestry - all this should be important to the logically consistent Nationalist.

Contrary to what some would say, you are not disqualified from being a Nationalist if you
* do not hate your neighbour/traditional enemy.
* marry outside the nationality, if the spouse is of not too alien stock.
* wish to compromise with neighbours, even to the extent of relinquishing territory or claims thereto.
* wish to translate your natural sympathy with related peoples (e.g. colonial cousins) into real life policies (this could be described as 'racism' 'white-nationalism' and so on, when it really doesn't need to be).
* have some ancestry from other nearby nations.
* and so on!

And our Finnish member is right on his Left-Right comments. :thumb001:

[Austin]

'Far Right' is not a term I like to identify with, nor do the BNP, but here's our British National Party's 'online TV' thingy:
http://tv.bnp.org.uk/

oh yess I needed this thanks