Could these South Asian councillors from two English towns pass as Middle Easterners; if so, where?

[Tooting Carmen]

The first four are from Kirklees, Yorkshire, while the remainder are from Luton, Eastern England.
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[Shepherd]

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[Tooting Carmen]

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[SardiniaAtlantis]

The one with the blue eyes looks really Kashmiri.

[Porpolita]

Yeah. I am not an expert on the ME, but I would not be surprised if they were Iranian, Turkish or Levantine. Some of the lighter ones even pass as Cypriots

[Sikeliot]

Seeing them up close, this guy cannot:

http://lookinglocal.gov.uk/digitv/cds/INtouch/Mobile/image.html;jsessionid=C30FBA11F471C7CB8403C2757501 765F.web1?id=786&height=240&width=240&border=FFFFFF

and the blue eyed woman looks very Iranic.

[Tooting Carmen]

The one with the blue eyes looks really Kashmiri.

And the others?

[Tooting Carmen]

Some of the lighter ones even pass as Cypriots

Which ones?

[Porpolita]

Which ones?

Numbers 4, 7 and 8 I could see as Cypriot. I don't know if its the lighting.

[Sikeliot]

Cypriots are not that exotic that they'd look South Asian.

[StonyArabia]

Iran , Iraq and the gulf.

[Tooting Carmen]

Iran , Iraq and the gulf.

All of them? Or do some still look distinctly South Asian?

[Shepherd]

http://lookinglocal.gov.uk/digitv/cds/INtouch/Mobile/image.html;jsessionid=C30FBA11F471C7CB8403C2757501 765F.web1?id=786&height=240&width=240&border=FFFFFF
http://i1.examiner.co.uk/incoming/article4919593.ece/binary/0007308B-0B36-10F5-B0F880BFB6FA0000.jpg
these can't

some others look atypical too but I guess they can pass in Iran in regions closer to Pakistan

[Mortimer]

I think they would, i think some are even "whiter" then some mideasterners, like the blue eyed white skinned woman etc. i think most mideasterners dont have blue eyes.

[Porpolita]

Cypriots are not that exotic that they'd look South Asian.

The point being that these are unusually light South Asians

[Highlands]

Not really to me,they look what they are. Afghan possibly though.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Not really to me,they look what they are. Afghan possibly though.

This this, and that.
The answer is so spot on it's in yo face sucka.

[gültekin]

Yeah. I am not an expert on the ME, but I would not be surprised if they were Iranian, Turkish or Levantine. Some of the lighter ones even pass as Cypriots
http://s28.postimg.org/uznbxb8il/pca12.png

[Kamal900]

Most of them can with the exception of these pictures:
http://lookinglocal.gov.uk/digitv/cds/INtouch/Mobile/image.html;jsessionid=C30FBA11F471C7CB8403C2757501 765F.web1?id=786&height=240&width=240&border=FFFFFF
https://percyweller.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/00214023-424x283.jpg
http://democracy.luton.gov.uk/cmis5public/Councillors/tabid/63/ctl/ViewCMIS_PersonPenPic/mid/383/id/153/PenPicSize/Medium/ResizeRaitoSource/Height/Default.aspx

[Tooting Carmen]

Most of them can with the exception of these pictures:
http://lookinglocal.gov.uk/digitv/cds/INtouch/Mobile/image.html;jsessionid=C30FBA11F471C7CB8403C2757501 765F.web1?id=786&height=240&width=240&border=FFFFFF
https://percyweller.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/00214023-424x283.jpg
http://democracy.luton.gov.uk/cmis5public/Councillors/tabid/63/ctl/ViewCMIS_PersonPenPic/mid/383/id/153/PenPicSize/Medium/ResizeRaitoSource/Height/Default.aspx

What looks off about the second two photos?

[Kamal900]

What looks off about the second two photos?

They look more Indid.

[Dynamo]

The point being that these are unusually light South Asians

Nah not really, since living in the uk seeing South asians is norm, these are pretty typical actually

[Porpolita]

Nah not really, since living in the uk seeing South asians is norm, these are pretty typical actually

Living in the UK where seeing South Asians is the norm, these are much lighter than average.

[Dynamo]

Living in the UK where seeing South Asians is the norm, these are much lighter than average.

I'm talking about pakis mate not fucking Sri Lankans Indians and Bengalis, don't try to play smart with me you little weasel

[Yuffayur]

The first four are from Kirklees, Yorkshire, while the remainder are from Luton, Eastern England.
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He can pass in Western and Southern Morocco, Libya and Egypt. he looks a kinda muslimoid lol.


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I will that this one is the most NA looking his eyes are so typical here.
Can pass in all NWA + the Delta his nose is a bit of, he reminds me of an ancien moroccan minister.


http://images0.maghress.com/fr/aujourdhui/84793


http://democracy.luton.gov.uk/cmis5public/Councillors/tabid/63/ctl/ViewCMIS_PersonPenPic/mid/383/id/239/PenPicSize/Medium/ResizeRaitoSource/Height/Default.aspx

Can pass in all NA.


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Same for the first, West+South Morocco, Libya and Egypt.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/20/1411253380286_wps_12_Bedfordshire_Deputy_Commi.jpg

Look middleatlassian, don't be surprise if you see the same look in Fez and Meknes. her eyes area are a bit of.

as a whole I think their noses are more convexe than the average NA.

[Porpolita]

I'm talking about pakis mate not fucking Sri Lankans Indians and Bengalis, don't try to play smart with me you little weasel

Calm down mate. Even by Pakistani standards these are lighter than average.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Calm down mate. Even by Pakistani standards these are lighter than average.

I wouldn't say that really.... There are many dark pakis sure, but there are MANY like these. I see them often enough that I would not think these strange at all... the thought "atypical" would not really occur to me.

[Porpolita]

I wouldn't say that really.... There are many dark pakis sure, but there are MANY like these. I see them often enough that I would not think these strange at all... the thought "atypical" would not really occur to me.

Yeah they obviously look more Pakistani than they do Sri Lankan, but based on tbe huge Pakistani community here, most (not all) look noticeably lighter than average.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Yeah they obviously look more Pakistani than they do Sri Lankan, but based on tbe huge Pakistani community here, most (not all) look noticeably lighter than average.

I think in my area the pakis that come are mostly punjabi which is the majority ethnic group in Pakistan anyhow, but still that might have something to do with it. Then again perhaps I simply notice more the pakis that look like these, I actually think of the darker pakis as the atypical ones, but that might be more a reflection on the pakis we have here. BTW the South Asian community here is prob bigger than yours lol.

[Tooting Carmen]

Most Pakistanis in Britain are Punjabi and Kashmiri.

[Porpolita]

I think in my area the pakis that come are mostly punjabi which is the majority ethnic group in Pakistan anyhow, but still that might have something to do with it. Then again perhaps I simply notice more the pakis that look like these, I actually think of the darker pakis as the atypical ones, but that might be more a reflection on the pakis we have here. BTW the South Asian community here is prob bigger than yours lol.

I live in London. You would need many South Asians to beat the number we have here. And they come from all parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Nepal. One of my best friends is Punjabi and most of her friends/family are not as light as the pics.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Most Pakistanis in Britain are Punjabi and Kashmiri.

Most Pakistanis are Punjabi period. Punjabi is the largest ethnic group in Pakistan. Here its the same but there is also a fair amount of Pakhtun as well.

[Tooting Carmen]

Most Pakistanis are Punjabi period. Punjabi is the largest ethnic group in Pakistan.

Well yes.


Here its the same but there is also a fair amount of Pakhtun as well.

Then that is why your perception of 'average' Pakistanis seems to be different to ours - there aren't many Pashtuns in Britain.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

I live in London. You would need many South Asians to beat the number we have here. And they come from all parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Nepal. One of my best friends is Punjabi and most of her friends/family are not as light as the pics.

Didn't know you lived in London, but I've been to London and in comparison it the south asian population is comparable to my area. All I will say is that the people in these pics remind me of the families of lots of south asian girls I've been very intimately acquainted with here.

[Tooting Carmen]

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[SardiniaAtlantis]

Well yes.



Then that is why your perception of 'average' Pakistanis seems to be different to ours - there aren't many Pashtuns in Britain.

Possible. Although a few punjabi girls I've known have had green hazel eyes and light skin so not very odd in that regard. But then again I probably do only notice those type lol.

[Dynamo]

I live in London. You would need many South Asians to beat the number we have here. And they come from all parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Nepal. One of my best friends is Punjabi and most of her friends/family are not as light as the pics.

Not all punjabis are pakis, there are lot of Indians one as well( they are dark for sure), but these guys he's posted look standard paki in my eyes, FYI the girl is wearing colored lenses those are not her real eyes.

[Porpolita]

Not all punjabis are pakis, there are lot of Indians one as well( they are dark for sure), but these guys he's posted look standard paki in my eyes, FYI the girl is wearing colored lenses those are not her real eyes.

Did I say all Punjabis are Pakistani? For your information, my Punjabi friend is from the Indian part. Even with her natural dark eyes she is a bit lighter than the average Pakistani. Not saying she can't pass there, just at the lighter end of the spectrum

[Ctwentysevenj]

Look Greek:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:




Only joking.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Did I say all Punjabis are Pakistani? For your information, my Punjabi friend is from the Indian part. Even with her natural dark eyes she is a bit lighter than the average Pakistani. Not saying she can't pass there, just at the lighter end of the spectrum

Btw he said she is wearing contacts which maybe but I knew a Kashmiri girl with eyes like that naturally.

[wvwvw]

The one with the blue eyes looks really Kashmiri.

Contact lenses are extremely popular with Indians.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Contact lenses are extremely popular with Indians.

True, but that is not to say I haven't known Pakis or Kashmiris with natural light eyes. Only one blue rest green/hazel. Obviously they are not the majority at all.

[wvwvw]

True, but that is not to say I haven't known Pakis or Kashmiris with natural light eyes. Only one blue rest green/hazel. Obviously they are not the majority at all.

Green yes they are more common in Central Asia and Northern parts of India

[SardiniaAtlantis]

If by natural light eyes you mean hazel and shades of Green, yes.

Yes, that is what I mean, although one blue was Kashmiri. Also I once met a Kashmiri guy I thought was Balkan. I will never forget that was very very strange. Must be in the .1% of them.

[Tooting Carmen]

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[SardiniaAtlantis]

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