7 most frequent phenotypes from your nationality

[Hungarian_master]

From your experiences.

[Trun]

Pontid-Gorid
Pontid
Gorid
North Pontid
Dinaro-Pontid
Pontid-CM
Carpathid

[Tooting Carmen]

From Britain:

Brunn, Borreby, Atlantid, Keltic-Nordic, Atlanto-Brunn, Faelid, Atlanto-Med (the last two are much less common than the first five)

From Colombia:

Balanced Mestizo, Indo-Mestizo and Harnizo in equal measure, Castizo and Mulatto in equal measure, Triracial, Zambo

[Dombra]

Borreby
Halstatt Nordid
Tronder
Faelid
Nordo-Borreby
Balto Nordid
Other CM

[JohnSmith]

Dinarid/Alpine/CM/Med/Norid

[StonyArabia]

Arabian:
Arabid
Asian Alpine often mixed
EastMed often mixed
Armenoid rare
rest are rare

Circassians:
Pontid
Metbid
Turanid
Anatolid
Iranid very rare
Armenoid very rare
Nordid forms often mixed

[mikeyup]

Atlanto-Med
Berid
Baskid
Atlantid
Gracile-Med
Alpine-Med
Noth Atlantid

[Teja]

Well for the natives:
https://www.dhm.de/fileadmin/medien/lemo/images/624_1.jpg http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b102202352/f1.highres

[Shepherd]

for Georgians

Most common:
Mtebid
Dinarid
Pontid
Alpine

less common:
North Pontid
Baltid+something (pure Baltid is understandably almost non existent)
Armenid
Iranid maybe?

Im sure there are others, this is what comes to mind though

PS: CM influence is common in a lot of Georgians

[aherne]

for romanians:
- dinarid - alpine - pontid mixes
- east med
- baltid
- aryan
- turanid

for germans:
- faelid
- alpine
- scandonordid

[Hungarian_master]

For Hungarians:

1. Alpinid
2. Carpathid
3. Pontid
4. Gorid
5. Baltid
6. Turanid
7. Borreby

[Hungarian_master]

And your nationality?

[Ianus]

Alpine
Atlantomed
Dinarid
Dinaromed
Alpinomed
Subnordid
Norid

[Hungarian_master]

More comment!

[Sakis]

http://dienekes.awardspace.com/texts/greekmorphological/

[Jana]

Croats
- alpine
-dinaro-med
- baltid/gorid
-dinaro-alpine
-pontid
-norid
-Balkan Borreby

IMO.

[Sakis]

To put it in a taxonomy scheme someone can understand

-alpines (most frequent)
-dinaro-meds
-atlanto-meds/pontids usually mixed with or next to CM types
-north pontids
-nordiform phenotypes such as corded, nordo-mediterranid or irano-nordoids but usually with dark hair and light eyes
-borrebies

Alpines most frequent?Not at all.

[Raikaswinþs]

75-85% Atlantomed/ (which often gets wrongly subdivided into Gracile/Atlantid/Berid/Basquid depending on whether the individual classified is taller or shorter,a bit paler or a bit more robust or perhaps has a bit longer face or a bigger nose). IE. Banderas, Penelope, Fernando Alonso Fernando Torres, Casillas, Antonio Resines,Albelda etc

2-5% "Exotic" mediterranean types. Not that they are really exotic but they present a variation of the above that's confusing enough for anti-spanish Anthronerds to fap about and wonder if its perhaps the definite proof that Spaniards are scretly Sicilians, Greeks, Jews or Moors. ie. Cesc Fabregas, Xavi.

It is also common to look for tanned; in-character shots of Banderas/Penelope (a real obsession for some people) and put them in the second type when in reality they belong to the first type.


2-5% "Exotic" north european types. Not that they are really exotic but they present a variation of the above that's enough for insecure Spanish users (or even anti-Spanish trolls with strange bias) to fap about and wonder if its perhaps the ultimate proof that Spaniards are secretly Visigoths, Sueves , Vandals or Flemish re-populators. IE. Guti, Salgado,Los Morancos, Maria Castro etc.

ca 3-5 % South Asian and intermediate European-South Asian types, traditionally reduced to the Spanish gitano communities but now exponentially increased by mass migration of Roma people from central and eastern Europe. IE. Kike Flores, Guiza , Isabel Pantoja etc.

ca 2-3% Native American , and intermediate European/Latin American; European/African etc. types , product of recent migration from countries such as Peru, Colombia, Bolivia, Republica Dominicana, Argentina or Brazil

7-8% Other phenotypes from recent immigration: Mostly North and Central European (British, Swedish, German, Polish) and North African (Moroccan, Algerian) but also Eastern (Balcans) and increasingly West African (Senegal, Nigeria etc.) and China

[Sakis]

Yes they are.

No,just look at the greek members here most are not even alpinised.

[Faklon]

Yes they are.

Own observation or supported by somewhere?If it's own it's interesting and I kind of agree.

But from Angel I get Nordic-Iranian range to be primal.

http://archhades.blogspot.gr/2013/03/j-lawrence-angel-on-racial-history-of.html

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ymRJG5gItz4/UTUbv1XCX4I/AAAAAAAAACU/6pUkGQAQQ60/s640/Racial+history+of+Greece.jpg

Above : Table 6, Angel says today's Greeks are most similar to Roman era Greeks.

http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/hellenes/

http://dienekes.awardspace.com/articles/hellenes/angeltypes.gif

Examples of Modern Greek types: These modern Greeks were classified by J. Lawrence Angel [38] as belonging to each of the six morphological types of the Ancient Greeks. First row: Basic White, Classic Mediterranean; Second row: Nordic-Iranian, Dinaric-Mediterranean; Third row: Mixed Alpine, Alpine

[Faklon]

The correct quote from Angel is living greeks are characterized by the roman era mixture with slight alpinization

An gives this table with more samples

http://puu.sh/dbLiK.jpg

.

Well,did he say again that Roman represents present aswell?

Anyway,I guess mixed alpines/alpine-meds cover the part in a way.

Fooking Dinarics and Allpines rising again with the Dorians.

Where did you get this board from?People of Lerna?

I want to find this J. L. Angel, “Human Skeletons from Grave Circles at Mycenae,” in G. E. Mylonas, O Taphikos Kyklos ton Mykenon (Athens 1973) 379-397. (http://www.dartmouth.edu/~prehistory/aegean/?page_id=60)

[alnortedelsur]

Spain (without specific order):
Atlanto-meds, Atlantids, Alpines, West-meds, Berids. Those are the five most common Iberian subtypes (IMO), though a high percentage of Iberians are actually a combination of two or more of these subtypes. I would have added Baskid, but I honestly think that the Baskid subtype is actually a combination of Atlanto-med with Dinaric.

Subtypes that are somewhat present but are not part of the main subtypes would be Cromagnids, Boberries, Keltic Nordics, Brunns, Dinarids, and probably some other subtypes that I have not came up with right now.

Venezuela (GUESSING from the most frequent phenotypes to the less frequent phenotypes, and probably NOT in the exact right order):

-Tri Racials (all of the next three kinds of triracials more or less present in similar proportions):
Including trirracials leaning to a mulattoid or zomboid look
including a fair amount of balanced trirracials, and...
including many mestizo-looking trirracials with very residual black admixture, and high amounts of white and Amerindian admixture

-Balanced Mestizos (similar proportion compared to harnizos, castizos and whites)

-Harnizos (similar proportion compared to Balanced mestizos, castizos and whites)

-Castizos (similar proportion compared to Balanced Mestizos, harnizos and whites)

-Whites (mostly of Spanish, Italian and/or Portuguese descent)

-indo-mestizos

-zambos

There are some few hundreds of thousands of fully Amerindians (I think around 700,000), and some few fully blacks (or almost fully blacks) in some isolated coastal pockets.

[aherne]

2-5% "Exotic" mediterranean types. Not that they are really exotic but they present a variation of the above that's confusing enough for anti-spanish Anthronerds to fap about and wonder if its perhaps the definite proof that Spaniards are scretly Sicilians, Greeks, Jews or Moors. ie. Cesc Fabregas, Xavi.

My direct observation is that these are only more common on Eastern coast, among Catalans mainly. Outside that, Spaniards look super-European with very little exceptions...

[Raikaswinþs]

My direct observation is that these are only more common on Eastern coast, among Catalans mainly. Outside that, Spaniards look super-European with very little exceptions...

Well, Barcelona and its metro is a Pan-Spanish sprawling supercity where the majority of the people have root in other provinces throughout the peninsula (and a good chunk of immigrants from elsewere too, and zillion tourists too, but if you obviate this, BCN is probably the best place to represent the whole of Spain in terms of phenotypes, much like Madrid).

The other provinces of the region are less affected by this phenomena ( much like the rest of the country) and therefore it is easier to see the provincial peculiarities, culturally and phenotypically .

[Kalimtari]

Albanians:

-din-cm (borreby mostly)
-norid-cm (borreby mostly)
-din-alp
-norid-alp
din/norid
-cm (borreby mostly)/alp
-pontid

the highlighted ones - vast majority of Albanians

[pelikarski]

What Tran said

[Hungarian_master]

More comment and merry christmas!

[Yuffayur]

Berberid
South-Med
West-Med
Alpo-Med
Atlanto-Med
Berid
Dinaro-med.

[armenianbodyhair]

Nordid
Nordid
Nordid
Nordid
Nordid
Nordid
Aethiopid

[Kalimtari]

Nordid
Nordid
Nordid
Nordid
Nordid
Nordid
Aethiopid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSvnIwg0lEAhttps://33.media.tumblr.com/b0e742ccd96e528002c109c1516aedf7/tumblr_mx7dk1lW2E1sgtrbgo1_500.gif

[Fear Fiain]

1. atlantid. here's irish model shahira barry as an example.
http://nowlivefearlessly.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/shari1.jpg
2. this ginger nordid-faelid look.
http://www.myhealthyfeeling.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/red-freckles-252x300.jpg
3. as opposed to this more indigenous ginger brunn? ginger faelid?
http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/4c0e9c4b7f8b9ab0562b0000-480/irish-woman.jpg
4. north atlantid - with extra freckles!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SjTEkl38n2E/TEU0aTyJpPI/AAAAAAAAAFc/D51h1YOPmOs/s320/Freckles_street_by_poezja_2.jpg
5. here we see a blonde and a ginger nordid-faelid mix. blondeism is quite common!
https://maaadddog.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/irish_girls1.jpg
6. keltik-nordid
http://euro2012girls.com/pictures/irish-girl_05.jpg
and another irish model, sarah maxwell...
http://img23.fansshare.com/media/content1/920_girl-of-the-day--irish-model-stella-maxwell-7309.jpg
7. brunn http://us.cdn200.fansshare.com/photo/sarahhyland/sarah-hyland-modern-family-season-promo-photoshoot-modern-family-hot-460816011.jpg

[Hungarian_master]

And more?

[Hungarian_master]

Someone else?

[Fakirbakir]

Someone else?

Proke, honestly I don't know which are the most frequent types in Hungary. My own POV doesn't count much. The scholarly works about it are controversial. Some even say these works are outdated because they seemingly contradict genetic researches. "Seemingly" because in the light of recent discoveries much of what we thought we knew about genetics isn't as right as it was in the past.

I know Bartucz's work but unfortunately his work is regarded as "nationalist".http://www.academia.edu/190221/_Magyar_Moustache_-_anthropology_ethnography_race_and_nationalism
I am not even sure if the "Alfoldi" type is an appropriate/accepted term in the present-day scientific circles. Don't misunderstand me I don't deny "eastern connections". It is a fact that conqueror Hungarians were of Andronovo stock. They were very similar to Sarmatians.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Origin_of_Hungarians_according_to_Kinga_Ery.png

According to Czeizel's book about half of present-day Hungarians belong to Turanid types, but Czeizel isn't an expert. He often stated that Hungarians "lost" their eastern roots, then about ten years ago, started to speak about "Persian ancestors" of nowadays Hungarians....

Kiszely is the same category. He was a fake expert. He couldn't distinguish between a female and a male skeleton ("Petofi in Barguzin"). He owed his "expert status" to the fact that he was a secret agent in Communist Hungary. According to his book the present-day Hungarians are mostly Turanids (30-35 percent), Taurids, Pamirids, East Baltids and Uralids.

As I see the real experts (Ery, Liptak etc) however are/were very careful with this matter and avoid to say anything about it.

[Smaug]

Draconic.

[Bloodsport]

In Cyprus it would be:

East-Med
Pontid
Dinaro-Med
Berid
Alpinid
Atlanto-Med
Armenoid or Pseudo-Iranid.

[alfieb]

Sicilian:

Dinaromediterranid
East-mediterranid (sometimes also with Armenoid features)
Alpine+mediterranid
Gracile-mediterranid
Atlantomediterranid
Berid
Norid

[Hungarian_master]

Proke, honestly I don't know which are the most frequent types in Hungary. My own POV doesn't count much. The scholarly works about it are controversial. Some even say these works are outdated because they seemingly contradict genetic researches. "Seemingly" because in the light of recent discoveries much of what we thought we knew about genetics isn't as right as it was in the past.

I know Bartucz's work but unfortunately his work is regarded as "nationalist".http://www.academia.edu/190221/_Magyar_Moustache_-_anthropology_ethnography_race_and_nationalism
I am not even sure if the "Alfoldi" type is an appropriate/accepted term in the present-day scientific circles. Don't misunderstand me I don't deny "eastern connections". It is a fact that conqueror Hungarians were of Andronovo stock. They were very similar to Sarmatians.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Origin_of_Hungarians_according_to_Kinga_Ery.png

According to Czeizel's book about half of present-day Hungarians belong to Turanid types, but Czeizel isn't an expert. He often stated that Hungarians "lost" their eastern roots, then about ten years ago, started to speak about "Persian ancestors" of nowadays Hungarians....

Kiszely is the same category. He was a fake expert. He couldn't distinguish between a female and a male skeleton ("Petofi in Barguzin"). He owed his "expert status" to the fact that he was a secret agent in Communist Hungary. According to his book the present-day Hungarians are mostly Turanids (30-35 percent), Taurids, Pamirids, East Baltids and Uralids.

As I see the real experts (Ery, Liptak etc) however are/were very careful with this matter and avoid to say anything about it.

I understand.

[Itarildë]

Keltic Nordid
North Atlantid
Borreby
Anglo-Saxon (Nordo/brunn)
Brunn
Nordid
Faelid... In smaller amounts

[Willem]

Faelid
Nordid
Borreby
Nordocromagnid
North Atlantid
Alpinid
Brunn

[Insuperable]

Dinarid
Pontid
Alpine
Norid
Borreby
North Pontid
Baltid

[cocoNN]

Baltid
North Pontid
Pontid
Gorid/Alpine
Nordid
also a lot of people show Dinarid

[Sikeliot]

Sicilian:

Dinaromediterranid
East-mediterranid (sometimes also with Armenoid features)
Alpine+mediterranid
Gracile-mediterranid
Atlantomediterranid
Berid
Norid


I'd have said-

East Med
Gracile Med
Alpine (and Alpine-Med)
Dinarid (and Dinaro-Med)
Armenoid
Norid
Berid

[Empecinado]

Atlanto Mediterranean
Western Mediterranean
Atlantid
Alpine
Gracile Mediterranean
Baskid
Berid

[Tooting Carmen]

Atlanto Mediterranean
Western Mediterranean
Atlantid
Alpine
Gracile Mediterranean
Baskid
Berid

What's the difference between Atlanto-Med and West Med?

[Empecinado]

What's the difference between Atlanto-Med and West Med?

Height and build.

[Tooting Carmen]

Height and build.

Please elaborate.

[pelikarski]

Pontid-Gorid
Pontid
Gorid
North Pontid
Dinaro-Pontid
Pontid-CM
Carpathid

Removing the various additional mixtures to Pontid I would add
Dinarid - granted in its pure form is rare.
Norid
East Nordid
Baltid - mostly found on women
Turanid
East Med
Gracile Med

borreby

[Ibericus]

What's the difference between Atlanto-Med and West Med?
Atlanto-med have larger faces and look a bit less med than west-meds.

[Tooting Carmen]

Atlanto-med have larger faces and look a bit less med than west-meds.

Could you give us examples of both with photos please?

[Ibericus]

Could you give us examples of both with photos please?
imo example of Atlanto-med would be something like Isco of Real Madrid or portuguese Miguel Veloso :

http://cache.images.globalsportsmedia.com/news/soccer/2013/5/27/321700header.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_fVddjegT3vU/TAvJaqhnQcI/AAAAAAAAADs/lxd8YyI0eKg/s1600/14%2B-%2BMiguel%2BVeloso.jpg


while West-Med looks a bit more meditarreanan, but the west kind of med , like some Sardinians.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BzxRvIncJ4A/Uls75fcVq6I/AAAAAAAAEyo/fAd4k8KuqC4/s1600/sardinian+sardinians+people+sardinien.jpg

[Ballist]

http://i60.tinypic.com/29wlbn5.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/jl1p9j.jpg
http://i60.tinypic.com/120h3xf.jpg

[Linebacker]

Pontid
Dinarid
Balkan Borreby/Balkan CM
Alpine
Baltid
Med

[Highlands]

Dinarid
Pontid
Dinaro-Pontid
Balkan borreby
Dinaro-Med

[alnortedelsur]

Atlanto Mediterranean
Western Mediterranean
Atlantid
Alpine
Gracile Mediterranean
Baskid
Berid

What is the difference between Western Mediterranean and Gracile Mediterranean?? I thought they were the same.

[Hungarian_master]

Dinarid
Pontid
Dinaro-Pontid
Balkan borreby
Dinaro-Med

What are the different between Dinaro-Pontid and Dinaro-Med?

[dralos]

Dinarid
Pontid
Dinaro-Pontid
Balkan borreby
Dinaro-Med
borreby would be second i think before pontid

[Hungarian_master]

1. Alpinid
2. Borreby
3. Pontid
4. Baltid
5. Gorid
6. Dinarid
7. Turanid

[Stears]

1. Alpinid 2. Borreby 3. Pontid 4. Baltid 5. Gorid 6. Dinarid 7. Turanid Hungary is not Miskolc.

[Hungarian_master]

Hungary is not Miskolc.

I know, but I rarely go to other regions in Hungary. I have been mostly in Szabolcs county.

[Stears]

I know, but I rarely go to other regions in Hungary. I have been mostly Szabolcs. Szabolcs: Slovaks.

[hipaware]

United States. I've been to every region so I can generalize here.

Atlantid/Brunn
Keltic Nordic
Faelid > Most common in Midwest
Alpine > Most common in Midwest
Modified Sudanid
Mestizo(Balanced Most Common, then Indo Mestizo, Harnizo, and Castizo)
Mulatto(Caribbean Hispanics, Bi-Racials, Light Skinned Afro Americans)

[Borna]

Dinarid, Med, Baltid, North Pontid, Norid, Nordid, Alpine

[Equilibrium]

Nations dominated by reduced Cro-Magnids like Alpinids et al need to seriously consider Eugenics.

[Mikula]

I am posting at APricity forum, photos of various Czech celebrities asking about their phenotypes.
The results I written down to excel file.
When I will have results of 50 men and 50 women, I will make a statistics and I will display it somwehere at AP forum.

[Hungarian_master]

I am posting at APricity forum, photos of various Czech celebrities asking about their phenotypes.
The results I written down to excel file.
When I will have results of 50 men and 50 women, I will make a statistics and I will display it somwehere at AP forum.

These are the phenotype plates: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?147221-Anthropological-Plates-from-humanphenotypes-com

And you can watch the people in the street.

[Cleitus]

Dinaro-Pontid
Dinarid/Norid
Pontid/North Pontid
Gorid
Alpinid
Baltid

[Tiberio]

For South Italy here
Armenoid
Arabid
Saharid
Berberid
East Med
Pontid
Gorid

[Venetkens]

Here in Veneto a mix of Dinarid, Norid, Alpine, Atlanto-Med, Atlantid, Borreby and Sub-Nordid.

[Mikula]

These are the phenotype plates: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?147221-Anthropological-Plates-from-humanphenotypes-com



Thanks!

[i'llseeyouinhell]

1.Anatolid
2.Pontid
3.Dinarid
4.Turanid
5.Iranid
6.Med
7.Alpinoid

[Hungarian_master]

Croats
- alpine
-dinaro-med
- baltid/gorid
-dinaro-alpine
-pontid
-norid
-Balkan Borreby

IMO.

And the Dinarid? I knew that the Dinarid common type for Croats.

[Hithaeglir]

1.Pontid
2.Alpine Pontid
3.Dinaro-med
4.Dinaro-Pontid
5.Alpine med
6.Atlanto Med
7.East Med.

[Kastrioti1443]

1.Pontid
2.Alpine Pontid
3.Dinaro-med
4.Dinaro-Pontid
5.Alpine med
6.Atlanto Med
7.East Med.

Dinaro-med should be the 2nd IMO, more than pontid and anatolid should be in par with east med.

[Jana]

And the Dinarid? I knew that the Dinarid common type for Croats.

Very rare in pure form nowdays, since it's a highlander adaptation type.

[Hungarian_master]

Very rare in pure form nowdays, since it's a highlander adaptation type.

What are the most typical Croatian type? You said the Alpinid are the most common (same as in Hungary).

[Jana]

What are the most typical Croatian type? You said the Alpinid are the most common (same as in Hungary).

Alpinid in the northwest, with baltid elements towards the east. Along the coast atlanto-med/dinarid blend I think. Biggest difference is that people from the coast are narrow faced, and ones from the continect wider faced, IMO :)

[Hungarian_master]

Alpinid in the northwest, with baltid elements towards the east. Along the coast atlanto-med/dinarid blend I think. Biggest difference is that people from the coast are narrow faced, and ones from the continect wider faced, IMO :)

In total which are the most typical in Croatia?

[Jana]

In total which are the most typical in Croatia?

I think alpinid :)

[Hungarian_master]

I think alpinid :)

Same the status in Hungary.

I much like the travel in Croatia. :)

[Jana]

Same the status in Hungary.

I much like the travel in Croatia. :)

I see. You will be welcome in Croatia my friend! :)

[katniss]

It is just nonsense and pseudoscience. So called "pontids", "alpids", "subnordids", "dinarids" .... don't exist as a biological reality.

[Jana]

It is just nonsense and pseudoscience. So called "pontids", "alpids", "subnordids", "dinarids" .... don't exist as a biological reality.

They obviously exist, those ''types'' are recognized even by old people without any clue about anthropology. They just don't call it that way. Other thing is that there is great chance than ''nordid'' and ''east med'' from same ethnicity (let's say Croatian) will share very similar autosomal.

Political corectness is not needed in this case, physical anthropology is only frowned upon because the nazis abused it. I don't see anything bad about it.

[Permafrost]

It is just nonsense and pseudoscience. So called "pontids", "alpids", "subnordids", "dinarids" .... don't exist as a biological reality.

Your posts on this forum are nonsense.

[magyar_lány]

Dinarid, carpathid, baltid and turanid.

[Hungarian_master]

Dinarid, carpathid, baltid and turanid.

The Turanid in real life uncommon in Hungary, many people the Alpinid confuses the Turanid.

Hungarian Turanids:
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/154810_515855861799336_571399069_n.jpg?oh=ea92ceee d5b55bbf8fbea4859ade8711&oe=562A0F2A
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/1510041_648019705297955_3886005011078956696_n.jpg? oh=d763b56fd45b0af39e622151ee9a7903&oe=560EFDBD
http://www.folkinfo.hu/agocs/agocs.jpg
http://pim.hu/object.def99d51-688f-43ae-86b9-74eb045fb07d.ivy
http://www.ktk-ces.hu/turikovacs.jpg

Hungarian Alpinids:
http://mediapedia.hu/media/image/andy_vajna.jpg
http://www.nlcafe.hu/data/cikk/12/113985/4.jpg
http://vaol.hu/data/cikk/121/2218/cikk_1212218/0.jpg
http://www.femina.hu/hazai_sztar/gyorgyi_anna_ket_kislany_anyja/gyorgyi_anna_lead_uj.jpg
http://www.kiskegyed.hu/lapokkepek/kepgaleria/11000/11317_26867-marenec-fruzsina-sl-d00008B28d8603187aa70.jpg
http://static.168ora.hu/db/0D/0B/kormos-kata-d00017D0B0f08a14c643c.jpg
http://static.origos.hu/s/img/i/1401/20140121csobot-adel-rovidre-vagatta-szexi.jpg

Ezen a képen az alpesi és a turáni típus leírása van, ráadásul a leírásokban arcképek is vannak ezekről a típusokról. A látott képek alapján melyiket találnád gyakoribbnak?
http://i.imgur.com/cj8riQR.png
http://i.imgur.com/fBICpKz.png

[magyar_lány]

The Turanid in real life uncommon in Hungary, many people the Alpinid confuses the Turanid.

Hungarian Turanids:
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/154810_515855861799336_571399069_n.jpg?oh=ea92ceee d5b55bbf8fbea4859ade8711&oe=562A0F2A
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/1510041_648019705297955_3886005011078956696_n.jpg? oh=d763b56fd45b0af39e622151ee9a7903&oe=560EFDBD
http://www.folkinfo.hu/agocs/agocs.jpg
http://pim.hu/object.def99d51-688f-43ae-86b9-74eb045fb07d.ivy
http://www.ktk-ces.hu/turikovacs.jpg

Hungarian Alpinids:
http://mediapedia.hu/media/image/andy_vajna.jpg
http://www.nlcafe.hu/data/cikk/12/113985/4.jpg
http://vaol.hu/data/cikk/121/2218/cikk_1212218/0.jpg
http://www.femina.hu/hazai_sztar/gyorgyi_anna_ket_kislany_anyja/gyorgyi_anna_lead_uj.jpg
http://www.kiskegyed.hu/lapokkepek/kepgaleria/11000/11317_26867-marenec-fruzsina-sl-d00008B28d8603187aa70.jpg
http://static.168ora.hu/db/0D/0B/kormos-kata-d00017D0B0f08a14c643c.jpg
http://static.origos.hu/s/img/i/1401/20140121csobot-adel-rovidre-vagatta-szexi.jpg

Ezen a képen az alpesi és a turáni típus leírása van, ráadásul a leírásokban arcképek is vannak ezekről a típusokról. A látott képek alapján melyiket találnád gyakoribbnak?
http://i.imgur.com/cj8riQR.png
http://i.imgur.com/fBICpKz.png

Az alpesi szerintem sokkal gyakoribb.

[zhaoyun]

For China:

Mittelsinid
Nordsinid
Sudsinid
Tungid
Tibetid
Turanid

[Hungarian_master]

Az alpesi szerintem sokkal gyakoribb.

Így igaz. Minket, magyarokat általában nem lehet szomszédainktól (szlovákok, románok, osztrákok, délszlávok, ukránok) megkülönböztetni. Más türk népekre kevésbé hasonlítunk.

Kazahkok:
https://kazakhnomad.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/academic-listening-class.jpg

Törökök:
http://newshour-tc.pbs.org/newshour/extra/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/11/Turkey.jpg
http://images.christianpost.com/full/48491/survivors-react-as-rescue-workers-try-to-save-people-trapped-under-debris-after-an-earthquake-in-tabanli-village-near-the-eastern-turkish-city-of-van-on-oct-23-2011.jpg

Szlovákok:
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000OVEQO8.aonI/fit=1000x750/Slovaks-celebrating-ice-hockey-championship-victory.jpg
http://tortenelemportal.hu/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sho.jpg

Melyiket néznéd inkább magyarnak?

[magyar_lány]

Így igaz. Minket, magyarokat általában nem lehet szomszédainktól (szlovákok, románok, osztrákok, délszlávok, ukránok) megkülönböztetni. Más türk népekre kevésbé hasonlítunk.

Kazahkok:
https://kazakhnomad.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/academic-listening-class.jpg

Törökök:
http://newshour-tc.pbs.org/newshour/extra/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2013/11/Turkey.jpg

Szlovákok:
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get2/I0000OVEQO8.aonI/fit=1000x750/Slovaks-celebrating-ice-hockey-championship-victory.jpg
http://tortenelemportal.hu/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/sho.jpg

Melyiket néznéd inkább magyarnak?

Isten igazából egyiket se. A kazahok meg a törökök nagyon barnák, talán a szlovákok hasonlítanak jobban ránk.

[Hungarian_master]

Isten igazából egyiket se. A kazahok meg a törökök nagyon barnák, talán a szlovákok hasonlítanak jobban ránk.

Voltál már valamelyik szomszédos országban? Ha igen, akkor tudhatod, hogy nem sokkal másabbak, mint mi.

Horvátok:
http://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1200-6/photos/1339360951-croatian-football-fans-watch-the-match-against-ireland_1267836.jpg
http://nemzeti.net/contents/imagestore/c/cb5/cb5a971c0745b5aaeab77c85d9da25b169338c66.jpg

Osztrákok:
http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu227/roapazeinli/gaut13.jpg
http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu227/roapazeinli/gaut6.jpg

Ezek magyarnak néznek ki szerinted?

[magyar_lány]

Voltál már valamelyik szomszédos országban? Ha igen, akkor tudhatod, hogy nem sokkal másabbak, mint mi.

Horvátok:
http://static1.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1200-6/photos/1339360951-croatian-football-fans-watch-the-match-against-ireland_1267836.jpg
http://nemzeti.net/contents/imagestore/c/cb5/cb5a971c0745b5aaeab77c85d9da25b169338c66.jpg

Osztrákok:
http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu227/roapazeinli/gaut13.jpg
http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu227/roapazeinli/gaut6.jpg

Ezek magyarnak néznek ki szerinted?

Voltam Horvátországban, de nem igazán figyeltem, hogy néznek ki. Úgy rémlik eléggé hasonlítottak ránk, de már rég volt. A képen lévők akár magyarok is lehetnének.

[Hungarian_master]

Voltam Horvátországban, de nem igazán figyeltem, hogy néznek ki. Úgy rémlik eléggé hasonlítottak ránk, de már rég volt. A képen lévők akár magyarok is lehetnének.

Találtam még egy képet szlovákokról. Mit szólsz hozzájuk?
http://img.index.hu/imgfrm/3/8/5/8/BIG_0012773858.jpg

[magyar_lány]

Találtam még egy képet szlovákokról. Mit szólsz hozzájuk?
http://img.index.hu/imgfrm/3/8/5/8/BIG_0012773858.jpg

Eléggé hasonlítanak a magyarokra, de nem igazán látni mert kicsi a kép. A szlávok között mondjuk több a szőke, mint köztünk, ebben eltérnek.

[Hungarian_master]

Eléggé hasonlítanak a magyarokra, de nem igazán látni mert kicsi a kép. A szlávok között mondjuk több a szőke, mint köztünk, ebben eltérnek.

Igazad van. Nem azt mondtam, hogy a magyarok és a szomszédos népek között semmi különbség nincs. Az osztrákoknál több a szőke, a délszlávoknál több a dinári és a románoknál több a barnás bőrű.

[katniss]

They obviously exist, those ''types'' are recognized even by old people without any clue about anthropology. They just don't call it that way. Other thing is that there is great chance than ''nordid'' and ''east med'' from same ethnicity (let's say Croatian) will share very similar autosomal.

Political corectness is not needed in this case, physical anthropology is only frowned upon because the nazis abused it. I don't see anything bad about it.

Taxonomy could be fun, but it is just a pseudoscience. The pseudoscience that sometimes has a foundation in truth, because anthropological differences are obvious.
In mainstream academic circles pseudoscientific ideas about "subraces" had been rejected long time ago, but racial taxonomy survives to this day as a classic pseudoscience, with dedicated adherents convinced of its accuracy.
How the work of the pseudoscientists that described "races" looked like? First, they found people with a certain phenotype. After that, they were looking for people that look similar. Finally, they stated that certain phenotype is dominant in certain area, although only 5 %, 10 % or 20% people fit the description of that "race". It is quite normal that people in a particular area resemble each other. They are distant cousins, because the birth rate in the past was high. Sometimes, geographical distribution of certain phenotypes or "races" is not correct described due to fact that racial "scientists" visited a couple of villages. At least, it is case in Balkan.

[Raikaswinþs]

1-Hispanic Mediterranean with slender (ie.178cm, 70KG), medium complexion , Straight to wavy Dark Brown Hair and hazel eyes (Iker Casillas, David Villa, Sergio Ramos type)

2-Hispanic Mediterranean with robust Build, medium complexion, (ie, 186 cm, 85 kg) Straight to wavy Dark Brown Hair and Hazel Eyes (Negredo,pique type)

3-Hispanic Mediterranean with small Build, (ie. 170cm, 60-65 kg) Straight to wavy Dark Brown hair and Hazel eyes (Iniesta/jordi alba type)

The Hispanic-Mediterranean face is described as moderately long and narrow with high to medium, straight nose, and sunk/deep, almond shaped eyes. Jaw tends to be triangular to square although oval types are just as common. The face lenght, nose and eye area are the most common indicators of this type.

Related types: Sardinian mediterranean; Southern French Mediterranean; Other Mediterranean and western atlantic types .

[Valmont]

Alpine

Atlantid

Sub-Nordid

North-Atlantid

Keltic-Nordid

Atlanto-Med

[Jana]

Taxonomy could be fun, but it is just a pseudoscience. The pseudoscience that sometimes has a foundation in truth, because anthropological differences are obvious.
In mainstream academic circles pseudoscientific ideas about "subraces" had been rejected long time ago, but racial taxonomy survives to this day as a classic pseudoscience, with dedicated adherents convinced of its accuracy.
But why do you post many people for classifcation then ? :)))) You contradict yourself a bit!

Taxotomly was regared as mainstream part of old-school anthropology before. But today population genetics took over, although it should not be a holy cow either. Looks of the people is mostly field of interest of ethnologists and cultural anthropologists today.

How the work of the pseudoscientists that described "races" looked like? First, they found people with a certain phenotype. After that, they were looking for people that look similar. Finally, they stated that certain phenotype is dominant in certain area, although only 5 %, 10 % or 20% people fit the description of that "race". It is quite normal that people in a particular area resemble each other. They are distant cousins, because the birth rate in the past was high. Sometimes, geographical distribution of certain phenotypes or "races" is not correct described due to fact that racial "scientists" visited a couple of villages. At least, it is case in Balkan.

If you are referring to Coon's work, it is vastly oudated. But not complete nonsense either. Truth is usually in the middle.

[katniss]

But why do you post many people for classifcation then ?


For fun. :cool:

[Hungarian_master]

Bump!