Could Shakira pass as Sicilian?

[lyllo]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4h81kfvBr1rpmdjio1_1280.jpg

http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/335705/slide_335705_3382029_free.jpg

http://data3.whicdn.com/images/30571529/original.jpg

http://33.media.tumblr.com/658773296011ae1e03bad746f2b10d60/tumblr_ne2uyovyrx1t0my22o1_400.jpg

http://af.2i.cz/fotky/b/5122/young-shakira-6.7415456931373E+17.jpg

http://www.shakiragallery.com/albums/1/photoshoots/black/normal_c45.jpg

[Brzęczyszczykiewiczówna]

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Sikeliot *mode on*

[Sikeliot]

Yes. Her father is Lebanese and her mom is Colombian, and likely has Amerindian (which I can see somewhat).

Her dad can pass in Sicily and Calabria. He looks a bit like Tony Bennett.

http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/fn-latino/entertainment/660/371/SHAKIRA%20FATHER%20PREGNANCY.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0B-QiDuvpxo/Uin1qu0T9QI/AAAAAAAAJ4Y/Lf683fmJOlU/s400/shaki1.JPG

[Trogdor]

I believe she has some Italian ancestry so I think she could. Also, in some of those pictures, she reminds me of Rachel Ray (who also has Sicilian ancestry).

[Sikeliot]

I believe she has some Italian ancestry so I think she could. Also, in some of those pictures, she reminds me of Rachel Ray (who also has Sicilian ancestry).

The Italian side comes from her mother, but her mother also has Spanish and Amerindian ancestry and looks "Hispanic". Of her parents, it's her father who passes in Sicily, not her mother.

Also, Rachael Ray is mixed with many things including Louisiana Creole, and IMO does not look fully white.

[Styrian Mujo]

Ofcourse she could.

[Sikeliot]

Her mother, who IMO looks mixed with Amerindian:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/26/article-0-172C97EF000005DC-779_634x915.jpg

[Trogdor]

The Italian side comes from her mother, but her mother also has Spanish and Amerindian ancestry and looks "Hispanic". Of her parents, it's her father who passes in Sicily, not her mother.

Also, Rachael Ray is mixed with many things including Louisiana Creole, and IMO does not look fully white.

Okay. She still reminds me of Rachel Ray in those pics though.

[special]

is there any proof her mom has Italian ancestry?

About the question, it's no.

[TheForeigner]

I think she could pass easily throughout Southern Europe and Romania too.

[Also]

I think this topic is gonna be hot stuff on that anti-sikelliot italian forum.

[Sikeliot]

Okay. She still reminds me of Rachel Ray in those pics though.

That might be due to her nonwhite admixture. Rachael Ray looks part non-European, and I don't mean Middle Eastern or Neolithic, I mean African or Amerindian.

[lyllo]

is there any proof her mom has Italian ancestry?

About the question, it's no.

She claimed it.

[Sikeliot]

It's unknown where in Italy her ancestry is from though. I'm still going to attribute her look to her Lebanese side, since I have a Lebanese neighbor who looks like her.

[special]

It's unknown where in Italy her ancestry is from though. I'm still going to attribute her look to her Lebanese side, since I have a Lebanese neighbor who looks like her.

I dont think she looks part Amerindian, as her mom does. But I dont see her as Italian/Sicilian.

[special]

I think this topic is gonna be hot stuff on that anti-sikelliot italian forum.

which forum?

[Sikeliot]

I dont think she looks part Amerindian, as her mom does. But I dont see her as Italian/Sicilian.

What would you guess?

[Incal]

Could.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Maybe she and her father more from Crete.

[Sikeliot]

Maybe she and her father more from Crete.


Cretans are genetically/phenotypically the same as Sicilians, you self-hating, ignorant Nordicist. I guess she isn't blonde enough for you to think she passes in Italy. :rolleyes:

[MINARDOWICZ]

I think she looks Sicilian above all... I mean she is only 1/4 Lebanese and even has some Italian ancestry and her mother looks white so... Ya it makes sense.

[Sikeliot]

I think she looks Sicilian above all... I mean she is only 1/4 Lebanese and even has some Italian ancestry and her mother looks white so... Ya it makes sense.

She is half Lebanese.

[MINARDOWICZ]

Maybe she and her father more from Crete.

What gives you a Cretan feel? Cretans are basically the same as Sicilians and Calabrese, you know, genetically. This is due to a greek influence in S Italy and also a Venetian presence in Crete. So no reason why she couldn't be Sicilian as well.

[Sikeliot]

What gives you a Cretan feel? Cretans are basically the same as Sicilians and Calabrese, you know, genetically. This is due to a greek influence in S Italy and also a Venetian presence in Crete. So no reason why she couldn't be Sicilian as well.

Cretans and Sicilians are so similar that on calculators, they often come up as the opposite population and they look the same too.

[MINARDOWICZ]

She is half Lebanese.

Crap I meant to say that... sorry I got her confused with a friend of mine I know who is 1/4 Lebanese. Anyways. She still does pass for sure.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Cretans are genetically/phenotypically the same as Sicilians, you self-hating, ignorant Nordicist. I guess she isn't blonde enough for you to think she passes in Italy. :rolleyes:

Yes I prefer these Italians. This should get up your spout!
http://primped1.hcdn1.net/images/uploads/the_daily_gloss/november_10/products/FOA_featuringNervo_copy.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Well your Nordicism and self hatred shows.

[MINARDOWICZ]

Yes I prefer these Italians. This should get up your spout!
http://primped1.hcdn1.net/images/uploads/the_daily_gloss/november_10/products/FOA_featuringNervo_copy.jpg

Cool but don't you realize this is not common in S Italy? Extreme blondism isn't common in many parts of central europe even, you know. So why make a big fuss about it?

Look at how brown hair is more common in this crowd picture of Tuscany!

http://www.toomuchtuscany.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/crowds-piazza-del-campo.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Cool but don't you realize this is not common in S Italy? Extreme blondism isn't common in many parts of central europe even, you know. So why make a big fuss about it?

Because he has a fetish.

[Also]

which forum?

Italic something... are you a member?

[Ctwentysevenj]

Don't take it too seriously. It is just a bit of fun. The girls I posted are the Nervo sisters from Australia whose parents came from Italy.

[Sikeliot]

I was annoyed that you hate the idea of a dark Italian so much that you ignorantly placed her in Crete when Cretans and Sicilians are the same genetically. In fact, Cretans are closer to Sicilians than to other Greeks.

[MINARDOWICZ]

Italic something... are you a member?

ItalicRoots.

See my thread!

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?149581-To-ITALICROOTS

[StonyArabia]

I don't think she does.

[Casandrinos]

Cretans are genetically/phenotypically the same as Sicilians, you self-hating, ignorant Nordicist. I guess she isn't blonde enough for you to think she passes in Italy. :rolleyes:

Lol

[Ulla]

I believe she has some Italian ancestry so I think she could. Also, in some of those pictures, she reminds me of Rachel Ray (who also has Sicilian ancestry).

Shakira Isabel Mebarak Chadid Ripoll Torrado. I don't see any Sicilian or Italian surnames here.

[Ulla]

Look at how brown hair is more common in this crowd picture of Tuscany!

http://www.toomuchtuscany.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/crowds-piazza-del-campo.jpg

This is Piazza del Campo the day of the Palio of Siena, they are tourists from everywhere in the world.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

This is Piazza del Campo the day of the Palio of Siena, they are tourists from everywhere in the world.

AHAHAHAH Non credo ai miei occhi!!!! Ha davvero utilizzato una foto del Palio di Siena!!

Minard what are you thinking?!

[Ulla]

AHAHAHAH Non credo ai miei occhi!!!! Ha davvero utilizzato una foto del Palio di Siena!!

Minard what are you thinking?!

Yes, lo ha fatto! Ahahaha.

E' come utilizzare la foto della folla di piazza San Marco a Venezia durante un giorno di festa e dire: guarda come sono i Veneziani!

[special]

Italic something... are you a member?

no

[special]

What would you guess?

I think she's a bit darker than average Sicilian, therefore she could fit better in ME

[special]

I think she looks Sicilian above all... I mean she is only 1/4 Lebanese and even has some Italian ancestry and her mother looks white so... Ya it makes sense.

Her mom doesnt look "white"

[special]

Cretans are genetically/phenotypically the same as Sicilians, you self-hating, ignorant Nordicist. I guess she isn't blonde enough for you to think she passes in Italy. :rolleyes:

I dont think Italian users here are Nordicist, it's you that you often depict them as similar to Turks and MENA when they are actually not..

[Trogdor]

Shakira Isabel Mebarak Chadid Ripoll Torrado. I don't see any Sicilian or Italian surnames here.

I said I BELIEVE she could have had Italian ancestry. I didn't say she did for sure.

[special]

I dont think Italian users here are Nordicist, it's you that you often depict them as similar to Turks and MENA when they are actually not.. .

[Nurzat]

Shakira looks fully Mediterranean.. doesn't look Amerindian. I think she could easily pass in all the Mediterranean Europe

[TheBlondeSalad]

No, she can't. She doesn't even look European.

http://i.imgur.com/juVRGXp.jpg

[Hadouken]

I would never guess her Italian/Sicilian

she has something else in her face that makes her look foreign for Italians imo

[Trun]

Well your Nordicism and self hatred shows.

Is a blond Italian a self-hater?

Not speak about Ctwentysevenj, he isn't even Italian.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Is a blond Italian a self-hater?

Not speak about Ctwentysevenj, he isn't even Italian.

Actually Trun my father is Italian, from Gallarate in Lombardy. Came to Australia in 1949 by himself. Never met any of his relatives.

[Sikeliot]

Actually Trun my father is Italian, from Gallarate in Lombardy. Came to Australia in 1949 by himself. Never met any of his relatives.


Ah I get it now. He is from the cold, white north :D

[Ctwentysevenj]

Ah I get it now. He is from the cold, white north :D

Yes he use to say it got very cold in winter with lots of snow. Actually very close to the Alps. He was a diamond setter. He came out to Australia by himself in 1949 as said before. Never even spoke to one of his relatives. There was a cousin I think in New Hampshire, USA. He nearly went there.

[Piccolo]

Maybe as a very exotic Sicilian. But on first sight I would not think she was Sicilian, so generally, no.

[Ulla]

Yes he use to say it got very cold in winter with lots of snow. Actually very close to the Alps. He was a diamond setter. He came out to Australia by himself in 1949 as said before. Never even spoke to one of his relatives. There was a cousin I think in New Hampshire, USA. He nearly went there.

Gallarate is approx 60 km from Swiss border and takes about 30 minutes travelling by car, if there is no too much traffic.

[Ctwentysevenj]

Gallarate is approx 60 km from Swiss border and takes about 30 minutes travelling by car, if there is no too much traffic.

When my father was young back in the good old days, he used to ride his bike to Switzerland to do some errands.

[philips]

her son?

http://i62.tinypic.com/rkaetf.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/sxc5kn.jpg
http://i58.tinypic.com/23lh6v.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/258w944.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/wv5qm9.jpg
Pique
http://i59.tinypic.com/14w4qog.jpg

[solaris]

looks greekish alpo-med in some pics.

[Smaug]

Yes, of course.