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Stefan_Dusan
12-07-2014, 09:32 PM
Inspired by longbowman, thought it would be funny thread topic :cool:

Armand_Duval
12-07-2014, 09:33 PM
Lolz!.

Both the same kind of chutney ferrets to me...hahahaha

Dani Cutie
12-07-2014, 09:37 PM
Stefan because Longbow is jew, he needs spread the evil seed.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 12:33 AM
Lolz!.

Both the same kind of chunky ferrets to me...hahahaha

What does this mean?

Anyhow, Stefan dude, you really are overcompensating.

Run thread, though :)

Also
12-08-2014, 12:37 AM
If Stefan had homosexual desires he would hide it from everyone 'till his death bed, being the macho serb he is, so we wouldn't know, and if his son came out gay and wanted to date men he would beat his son and choke him on the floor untill he accepted he has to marry a serb woman. Longbowman is the progressive liberal who is fine with gays raising children as if they were a family, and if he were gay he would be proud of it.

So, I picked the most gay-friendly.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 12:39 AM
Stefan dusan,
Should read the gay shit he says in cb xD

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 12:40 AM
If Stefan had homosexual desires he would hide it from everyone 'till his death bed, being the macho serb he is, so we wouldn't know, and if his son came out gay and wanted to date men he would beat his son and choke him on the floor untill he accepted he has to marry a serb woman. Longbowman is the progressive liberal who is fine with gays raising children as if they were a family, and if he were gay he would be proud of it.

So, I picked the most gay-friendly.

Exactly. If I were actually gay, I'd be all 'hey, I'm gay. Suck it.' If Stefan Dusan were gay, which he is, he'd be violently homophobic and treat heterosexual relationships like a duty, not a labour of love, which he does.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 12:42 AM
Exactly. If I were actually gay, I'd be all 'hey, I'm gay. Suck it.' If Stefan Dusan were gay, which he is, he'd be violently homophobic and treat heterosexual relationships like a duty, not a labour of love, which he does.

Son are you saying homosexuality is a choice?

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 12:44 AM
Son are you saying homosexuality is a choice?

You can choose to pretend you aren't gay, that's all I'm saying :rolleyes:

You can choose to repress it.

Also
12-08-2014, 12:48 AM
Exactly. If I were actually gay, I'd be all 'hey, I'm gay. Suck it.' If Stefan Dusan were gay, which he is, he'd be violently homophobic and treat heterosexual relationships like a duty, not a labour of love, which he does.

What's up with you and bolding words today? Do I have to mentally imagine you speaking and putting emphasis on the bolded words?

I somehow understand Stefan. You see a couple as a relation that only involves two individuals, and everyone else is alien to it and has no ties to it. He sees mating as a mechanism of perpetuation of his serb society and as a duty of the serb people, not as a exclusive personal act. That's why he looks down at inappropriate sexual behaviour that is not for the best of serb people. He sees society above the individual, and individual interest are secondary to community and familiar interest, while you see the individual above the society.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 12:50 AM
What's up with you and bolding words today? Do I have to mentally imagine you speaking and putting emphasis on the bolded words?

I somehow understand Stefan. You see a couple as a relation that only involves two individuals, and everyone else is alien to it and has no ties to it. He sees mating as a mechanism of perpetuation of his serb society and as a duty of the serb people, not as a exclusive personal act. That's why he looks down at inappropriate sexual behaviour that is not for the best of serb people. He sees society above the individual, and individual interest are secondary to community and familiar interest, while you see the individual above the society.

Yes, bold = emphasis.

Well the society is the individual but that's besides the point. Stefan never talks of the love he has for sex or his wife or anything, just duty, duty, duty, and how others should do it too; make the same sacrifices he has.

Either way I have a surprise twist I may or may not reveal later.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 12:51 AM
I met Longbowman and he didn't make a pass at me despite my exceptionally good looks. So Longbowman isn't gay. I haven't met Stefan and to be honest i wouldn't want to do so. He's a psychopath.

Actually I was just too intimidated by said exceptionally good looks.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 12:52 AM
I met Longbowman and he didn't make a pass at me despite my exceptionally good looks. So Longbowman isn't gay. I haven't met Stefan and to be honest i wouldn't want to do so. He's a psychopath.

Actually inird met him, he's still alive, so he can't be that bad :D

Also
12-08-2014, 12:54 AM
Yes, bold = emphasis.

Well the society is the individual but that's besides the point. Stefan never talks of the love he has for sex or his wife or anything, just duty, duty, duty, and how others should do it too; make the same sacrifices he has.

Either way I have a surprise twist I may or may not reveal later.

For a warrior everything is a duty.

If he is gay and managed to overcome his inner desires and marry a woman and make her happy and procreate then I applaud him.

But he is probably not gay, he seemed to be pretty interested in Natia. He likes woman who play difficult and despise him initially, that seems to turn him on.

zhaoyun
12-08-2014, 12:54 AM
I met Longbowman and he didn't make a pass at me despite my exceptionally good looks. So Longbowman isn't gay. I haven't met Stefan and to be honest i wouldn't want to do so. He's a psychopath.

I've never met Longbowman. But I believe my general sentiment towards this topic was captured in these words.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 12:55 AM
For a warrior everything is a duty.

If he is gay and managed to overcome his inner desires and marry a woman and make her happy and procreate then I applaud him.

But he is probably not gay, he seemed to be pretty interested in Natia. He likes woman who play difficult and despise him initially, that seems to turn him on.

I suspect he is gay; at most he is bisexual, but a gay-leaning bisexual. You can applaud him all you like, still gay.

Oneeye
12-08-2014, 12:55 AM
I choose LBM, because he is too Union Jack flapping British to not at least be bisexual.

Mortimer
12-08-2014, 12:57 AM
longbowman

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 01:00 AM
I know why you changed the title... You naughty man.

Mark
12-08-2014, 01:05 AM
Both are sex, pure.

Dani Cutie
12-08-2014, 01:09 AM
Longbowman, im just trolling, don“t take it seriouss

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:10 AM
Longbowman, im just trolling. :embarrassed

S'aight bro. I am aiming to spread my evil seed anyhow.

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:13 AM
Longbowman. He is almost as sexy as my current crush (who is also Jewish, oddly).

Also
12-08-2014, 01:14 AM
Longbowman. He is almost as sexy as my current crush (who is also Jewish, oddly).

Ron Jeremy?

Leo Iscariot
12-08-2014, 01:15 AM
Why was the title changed? :lol:

Though I'm straight, I gotta give Longbowman his props on this one.

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:17 AM
Then again I am practically Jewish myself on a genetic level.. on some calculators I come up as half Ashkenazi. :D


Would you allow him to bust your ass? Maybe skull fuck you until you're unconscious?


Which?

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:17 AM
I met Longbowman and he didn't make a pass at me despite my exceptionally good looks. So Longbowman isn't gay. I haven't met Stefan and to be honest i wouldn't want to do so. He's a psychopath.

Why does everyone say I'm a psychopath xD

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:17 AM
Why was the title changed? :lol:

Though I'm straight, I gotta give Longbowman his props on this one.

What title change?

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:20 AM
Sexier: Longbowman
Gayer: Stefan_Dusan

in case it wasn't clear.

Leo Iscariot
12-08-2014, 01:20 AM
What title change?

It went from "Who's gayer", to "Who's sexier", back to "Who's gayer".

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:20 AM
Sexier: Longbowman
Gayer: Stefan_Dusan

in case it wasn't clear.

Gays can stand in alliance, but I'm no gay :lol:

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:21 AM
It went from "Who's gayer", to "Who's sexier", back to "Who's gayer".

It was always 'who's gayer.' There was never any change.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:21 AM
It went from "Who's gayer", to "Who's sexier", back to "Who's gayer".

Jew tactics, u learn to put up with them.

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:22 AM
Thought you were ancient Greek.

That's not what my genetic results say. I come up like a half Jew.

Gustave H
12-08-2014, 01:23 AM
Not sure whether this is true or not but several people have told me that Stefan is actually a homosexual. So, I'm going to say Stefan.

Also
12-08-2014, 01:23 AM
The one who tests positive for HIV is most likely the gayest.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:24 AM
If you were stuck in prison with Skeliot would you skull fuck him?

Maybe I'd rape him, until he is disgusted with being gay he'd become straight ;)

Leo Iscariot
12-08-2014, 01:24 AM
It was always 'who's gayer.' There was never any change.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFMvnhnbyKU

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:25 AM
Maybe I'd rape him, until he is disgusted with being gay he'd become straight ;)

See. It's this kind of thing too. Telling dudes to suck your dick, or that you'd rape them. It's pretty non hetero.

Mark
12-08-2014, 01:25 AM
That's not what my genetic results say. I come up like a half Jew.

Would you consider a Bar Mitzvah? :D

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:26 AM
Sociopathic fits better. It's in what you say and the fact you've hit women much smaller than yourself.

I hit her out of love, because she needs to learn her lesson, much similar to how I'd hit a kid or a dog. To teach a lesson.

Veneda
12-08-2014, 01:26 AM
Who is sexier?


Stefan Dusan.


No doubt about it.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:26 AM
See. It's this kind of thing too. Telling dudes to suck your dick, or that you'd rape them. It's pretty non hetero.

It's a dominance thing, u'd never understand that because no hormones flow in ur asexual veins.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:27 AM
Stefan Dusan.

No doubt about it.

You're in a minority of one. Not to boast, but Arberori voted when that quiz was 'who's gayer.'

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 01:28 AM
I hit her out of love, because she needs to learn her lesson, much similar to how I'd hit a kid or a dog. To teach a lesson.

Bro xD

Also
12-08-2014, 01:28 AM
I hit her out of love, because she needs to learn her lesson, much similar to how I'd hit a kid or a dog. To teach a lesson.

Stefan, I am disappointed.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:28 AM
It's a dominance thing, u'd never understand that because no hormones flow in ur asexual veins.


I hit her out of love, because she needs to learn her lesson, much similar to how I'd hit a kid or a dog. To teach a lesson.

How the hell do people not think you're gay? You're pretty damn gay, mate.

You're also an abusive psychopath, but everyone knows that already.

Also associating the love for your wife for love for a dog is pretty indicative that either it's not romantic love and you're gay, or you fuck your dog.

Hands down you are the member most in need of psychiatric help, overtaking Butlerking.

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:29 AM
Maybe I'd rape him, until he is disgusted with being gay he'd become straight ;)

You know you'd enjoy it, don't lie.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:30 AM
You know you'd enjoy it, don't lie.

Maybe but you definitely wouldn't ;)

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:31 AM
Maybe but you definitely wouldn't ;)

Who says you'd be fucking me and not the other way around?! :)

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:31 AM
If I had a daughter and found out you hit her I'd teach you a lesson and it wouldn't be out of love.

Over what idiotic reason did you hit each woman? I already know there is at least two who needed a "lesson" from a guy over 6'4.

Ur welcome to try, but it wouldn't be so easy for u. But I don't mind a passionate fight.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:31 AM
Maybe but you definitely wouldn't ;)

At the point where you're admitting to enjoying having gay sex, could you please cede that you are, in fact, the gayer of the two of us?

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:32 AM
Who says you'd be fucking me and not the other way around?! :)

Laws of physics.

Leo Iscariot
12-08-2014, 01:32 AM
The Apricity, everybody.

Also
12-08-2014, 01:32 AM
Who says you'd be fucking me and not the other way around?! :)

He could easily prison rape you. Guys who were never gay will fuck anything with a hole in jail.

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:32 AM
Laws of physics.

Oh no. I'd at least try to put up one hell of a fight. :lol:

And then you'd be forced into submission.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:34 AM
Oh no. I'd at least try to put up one hell of a fight. :lol:

And then you'd be forced into submission.

Ok, if you can submit someone a foot taller and 100lbs heavier (at least) than u deserve everything u get xD

Also
12-08-2014, 01:35 AM
Oh no. I'd at least try to put up one hell of a fight. :lol:

And then you'd be forced into submission.

Stefan is a serb ogre, you look fragile and an easy target. Specially in prison they target known homosexuals.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:35 AM
A thread you set up to prove you're not gay has degenerated into you telling dudes how you'd have sex with them.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:36 AM
Who is talking about fighting? No body, no conviction.

Ur welcome to try to kill me too if you think that's easier. Don't think u were the first who tried :lol:

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:36 AM
Stefan is a serb ogre, you look fragile and an easy target. Specially in prison they target known homosexuals.

I'm very short, but not fragile.

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:37 AM
Luckily for Stefan Dusan I don't find him attractive. Not woggy enough for me, I'd rather a Jewish guy in fact.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:37 AM
A thread you set up to prove you're not gay has degenerated into you telling dudes how you'd have sex with them.

This is how straight people joke in the Balkan, don't worry. I'm confident in my sexuality I can joke like this.

Slang King
12-08-2014, 01:39 AM
For a warrior everything is a duty.

If he is gay and managed to overcome his inner desires and marry a woman and make her happy and procreate then I applaud him.

But he is probably not gay, he seemed to be pretty interested in Natia. He likes woman who play difficult and despise him initially, that seems to turn him on.

Stop kissing ass you pathetic Brazilian faggot. I'm sure you'd like a lot to be raped by Stefan "the Serb ogre".

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:39 AM
This is how straight people joke in the Balkan, don't worry. I'm confident in my sexuality I can joke like this.

We all know the kind of 'joking' that goes on in SE Europe. I've seen the pottery.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:39 AM
Stop kissing ass you pathetic Brazilian faggot. I'm sure you'd like a lot to be raped by Stefan "the Serb ogre".

which soackpuppet r u, I wanna which one I offended some time in the past.

Mark
12-08-2014, 01:40 AM
Oh no. I'd at least try to put up one hell of a fight. :lol:

And then you'd be forced into submission.


Ok, if you can submit someone a foot taller and 100lbs heavier (at least) than u deserve everything u get xD


You know you'd enjoy it, don't lie.


Maybe but you definitely wouldn't ;)


Who says you'd be fucking me and not the other way around?! :)


This sounds like a plot in gay porno film. xD

Also
12-08-2014, 01:40 AM
In "macho cultures", like latin american and apparently serb too, men can joke about how they would fuck other men, maybe even their friends and not sound gay to others, as long as they are on the active position, not on the passive. To jokingly say you fucked that man in the ass won't make people think you are gay, although I don't know how a straight man could get an erection looking at some hairy ass unless he is very desesperate.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:41 AM
We all know the kind of 'joking' that goes on in SE Europe. I've seen the pottery.

U wouldn't understand because u were brought up in a girl. U may not be gay in sense where u stick ur dick, but ur gay in every other way.

Slang King
12-08-2014, 01:42 AM
which soackpuppet r u, I wanna which one I offended some time in the past.

Not you, there's nothing you offended me with. Also, on the other hand is a faggot who wants to be prison raped by large "ogres" xD

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:43 AM
U wouldn't understand because u were brought up in a girl. U may not be gay in sense where u stick ur dick, but ur gay in every other way.

How long have you lived in the US?

Aha, so I'm gay culturally, but you're macho, so it's alright for you to want to bang other guys?

Also
12-08-2014, 01:44 AM
Stop kissing ass you pathetic Brazilian faggot. I'm sure you'd like a lot to be raped by Stefan "the Serb ogre".

lol, not really. I think he is just a funny character, although I got deeply disappointed after seeing he beated a woman once and thinks this is okay. Violence against women is not justified unless there is legitimate self-defense reason.

Stefan is 6'6 if I am not mistaken, for me that's a ogre. I don't know how tall people are where you live.

Slang King
12-08-2014, 01:44 AM
In "macho cultures", like latin american and apparently serb too, men can joke about how they would fuck other men, maybe even their friends and not sound gay to others, as long as they are on the active position, not on the passive. To jokingly say you fucked that man in the ass won't make people think you are gay, although I don't know how a straight man could get an erection looking at some hairy ass unless he is very desesperate.

Brazil is worldwide known as a faggot country full of flamboyant homos. Macho, I wouldn't say so, because I know for a fact you are a rich-boy weakling that would be torn apart in the middle of a favela.

MINARDOWICZ
12-08-2014, 01:44 AM
U wouldn't understand because u were brought up in a girl. U may not be gay in sense where u stick ur dick, but ur gay in every other way.

Who really cares man? This is getting old.

Any ways if he was "brought up in a girl" I would say he has a lot of experience with women, now? Sounds pretty non-gay to me. :p

"in a girl" LOL!

O.K. so in the end though I would prolly pick Longbow for stylistic reasons and political views. We would have to ask Sikeliot or Fortis to truly tell us who is gayer though. :cool:

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:45 AM
How long have you lived in the US?

Aha, so I'm gay culturally, but you're macho, so it's alright for you to want to bang other guys?

In Serbia, sex only counts with a woman and vagina. Raping a guy as concept doesn't exist, it's basically like punching someone.

There was famous Serb hooligan who raped some Croat hooligan. By raped, he used broom handle. However, he tells everyone he literally raped him, he is ofc not gay.

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:46 AM
Any man who wants to have intimate contact of any kind with another man, is not straight. At the least.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:46 AM
In Serbia, sex only counts with a woman and vagina. Raping a guy as concept doesn't exist, it's basically like punching someone.

There was famous Serb hooligan who raped some Croat hooligan. By raped, he used broom handle. However, he tells everyone he literally raped him, he is ofc not gay.

Answer the question, Stefan. You want to put your penis in men. Call it what you like. True, no?

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:47 AM
He probably likes men who look feminine and as such doesn't think it makes him gay.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:48 AM
Answer the question, Stefan. You want to put your penis in men. Call it what you like. True, no?

No I don't have such thoughts :lol: I just joke this way.

I've only been with women in my life.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:49 AM
Any man who wants to have intimate contact of any kind with another man, is not straight. At the least.

So if u punch a man, hug him, ur gay?

Aviator
12-08-2014, 01:49 AM
Raping a guy as concept doesn't exist, it's basically like punching someone.


What a bunch of fags.

Weird topic.

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 01:50 AM
So if u punch a man, hug him, ur gay?

If you want to touch another man with your penis, you are gay.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:51 AM
No I don't have such thoughts :lol: I just joke this way.

I've only been with women in my life.

Are you suuure? I know someone who might disagree.

Anyhow I don't need to divulge the information. Most people reading the thread have realised you are, in fact, gay, and I've received at least 3 personal messages apart from the responses here agreeing with me.

I wasn't trying to hurt you. Like I said, you're very obviously a repressed gay person, and it affects you and your outlook and makes you this warped, horrible person, which is a great shame.

Also
12-08-2014, 01:52 AM
What a bunch of fags.

Weird topic.

In Brazil men couldn't be raped untill some years ago according to the law, it was classified as a smaler offense like "sexual offense" or "sexual misconduct". The law understood only women could be raped.

This changed though. I think it is best like that.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:52 AM
If you want to touch another man with your penis, you are gay.

maybe that's ok definition. But it doesn't qualify to me.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:53 AM
maybe that's ok definition. But it doesn't qualify to me.

Of course it wouldn't, because you don't want to think of yourself as gay.

MINARDOWICZ
12-08-2014, 01:54 AM
In Serbia, sex only counts with a woman and vagina. Raping a guy as concept doesn't exist, it's basically like punching someone.

There was famous Serb hooligan who raped some Croat hooligan. By raped, he used broom handle. However, he tells everyone he literally raped him, he is ofc not gay.

http://treasure.diylol.com/uploads/post/image/203099/resized_bear-grylls-meme-generator-bitches-be-trippin-better-drink-my-own-piss-954a4f.jpg

KawaiiKawaii
12-08-2014, 01:54 AM
How come the title changed, but not on the main page? I thought I was voting for who's gayer...

MINARDOWICZ
12-08-2014, 01:55 AM
No I don't have such thoughts :lol: I just joke this way.

I've only been with women in my life.

So you are just bi-curious?

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:55 AM
How come the title changed, but not on the main page? I thought I was voting for who's gayer...

Good, 'cause I was about to hate you forever.

Stefan changed it a while back.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:55 AM
Are you suuure? I know someone who might disagree.

Anyhow I don't need to divulge the information. Most people reading the thread have realised you are, in fact, gay, and I've received at least 3 personal messages apart from the responses here agreeing with me.

I wasn't trying to hurt you. Like I said, you're very obviously a repressed gay person, and it affects you and your outlook and makes you this warped, horrible person, which is a great shame.

Why I am horrible person?

There has never been a gay man in my family. And I know over 1000 family members to some degree (weak to strong). It's unheard of. People of my line are not gay.

My father said that feminine boy were often brought to the river during winter and drowned, we self select from young age.

Slang King
12-08-2014, 01:55 AM
If you want to touch another man with your penis, you are gay.

What about touching tips? My cousin did this one time as a joke, is it considered gay?

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 01:55 AM
maybe that's ok definition. But it doesn't qualify to me.

I'm too beautiful to be a man, so technically having sex with me would be like being with a female, right?

You know how you love to call me... :wink

Also
12-08-2014, 01:58 AM
Brazil is worldwide known as a faggot country full of flamboyant homos. Macho, I wouldn't say so, because I know for a fact you are a rich-boy weakling that would be torn apart in the middle of a favela.

Brazil has a lot of gays. And a lot of gay prejudice at the same time, specially towards transexuals.

It wouldn't be smart of me to go into favela, I'd be singled out, doesn't matter if you are strong or not, alone and against guns you won't do much. But I suspect I am not as rich as you immagine MacCauley. A "gringo" like you would be at even greater risk inside a favela.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 01:58 AM
Why I am horrible person?

There has never been a gay man in my family. And I know over 1000 family members to some degree (weak to strong). It's unheard of. People of my line are not gay.

My father said that feminine boy were often brought to the river during winter and drowned, we self select from young age.

This is a really gay thing to say. "I can't be gay, because men in my family aren't gay, and my father hated gays, and I must do right by my family, so I can't be gay!"

Your argument is never "lol mate. My wife is fit." You always try to use bizarre reasoning, as if you're convincing yourself not to be gay.

You're a wife-beater and you threaten people.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:00 AM
You're a wife-beater and you threaten people.

I don't beat my wife. And I threaten people when they deserve, which is almost never. But sometimes they deserve it. People however think statements from me "like you should brutally be killed" amounts to me saying I'm going to do it. When I just state my opinion.

I ofc find my wife arousing? How else u think we have sex.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 02:01 AM
What about touching tips? My cousin did this one time as a joke, is it considered gay?

Lmfaooooooooooooo xD

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:02 AM
I don't beat my wife. And I threaten people when they deserve, which is almost never. But sometimes they deserve it. People however think statements from me "like you should brutally be killed" amounts to me saying I'm going to do it. When I just state my opinion.

I ofc find my wife arousing? How else u think we have sex.

Actually you don't need to be attracted to someone to get an erection, which of course all men must know...

...you're not the only closeted gay man with a family. There are millions more, and thousands have admitted to it.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:03 AM
Actually you don't need to be attracted to someone to get an erection, which of course all men must know...

...you're not the only closeted gay man with a family. There are millions more, and thousands have admitted to it.

This is going in circles, if u get erect to man u become automatically gay but if u get erection for ur wife, it means nothing. Jew logic. Everyone conservative is gay.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:07 AM
This is going in circles, if u get erect to man u become automatically gay but if u get erection for ur wife, it means nothing. Jew logic. Everyone conservative is gay.

Dude, you're gay or bi at most. Your dad told you he hated gays (or feminine boys) so you overcompensate with beatings, threats and guns to appear as macho as possible and tell me I'm 'gay in spirit' whilst hinting at your practises which you justify by being macho and everyone knows it.

Slang King
12-08-2014, 02:07 AM
In the this can't be proven until brought to a real test. The one who gets raped is gayer than the one who rapes. So the question should be who would submit and rape the other

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:09 AM
Dude, you're gay or bi at most. Your dad told you he hated gays (or feminine boys) so you overcompensate with beatings, threats and guns to appear as macho as possible and tell me I'm 'gay in spirit' whilst hinting at your practises which you justify by being macho and everyone knows it.

Guns are a statement of freedom not machoism. Even female members in my family have guns. I don't consider them macho for it.

And yes my father hated gays in my family, as does every member of the family. In my family ur own mother will poison u if she thinks ur gay just to avoid her shame. This kind of family remains healthy without gays tho. Whereas practically every western man now has gay in his family somewhere.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:11 AM
Guns are a statement of freedom not machoism. Even female members in my family have guns. I don't consider them macho for it.

And yes my father hated gays in my family, as does every member of the family. In my family ur own mother will poison u if she thinks ur gay just to avoid her shame. This kind of family remains healthy without gays tho. Whereas practically every western man now has gay in his family somewhere.

Exactly, your family made it clear homosexuality was unacceptable, so you buried it beneath layers of machismo and abuse.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:13 AM
Exactly, your family made it clear homosexuality was unacceptable, so you buried it beneath layers of machismo and abuse.

how am i gay if not attracted to man nor have relationships with them? U just want me to be gay to prove 21st century right. To u the idea that strong culture can prevent gays is against ur notion that someone is born gay.

KawaiiKawaii
12-08-2014, 02:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j4t185wl-0

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:15 AM
how am i gay if not attracted to man nor have relationships with them? U just want me to be gay to prove 21st century right. To u the idea that strong culture can prevent gays is against ur notion that someone is born gay.

No, I don't care if you're gay or not, I know you're gay.

You just pretty much admitted it. Your strong culture stopped you from being gay. From acting out your homosexual desires. Culture. Except being gay isn't cultural and the gay proportion of the world's populations is roughly equal and you are a gay man. You will never not have the feelings you have and proof is this thread and your responses and your arguments and everything about you Stefan and everyone can tell.

Slang King
12-08-2014, 02:19 AM
The angrier Longbowman gets, the more he start writing in bold letters

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:20 AM
No, I don't care if you're gay or not, I know you're gay.

You just pretty much admitted it. Your strong culture stopped you from being gay. From acting out your homosexual desires. Culture. Except being gay isn't cultural and the gay proportion of the world's populations is roughly equal and you are a gay man. You will never not have the feelings you have and proof is this thread and your responses and your arguments and everything about you Stefan and everyone can tell.

if people tell I'm gay than they are wrong as every woman who has been with me can attest xD

Now tell me why u r so sure Im gay? What did Arberesha tell u?

Also
12-08-2014, 02:20 AM
Exactly, your family made it clear homosexuality was unacceptable, so you buried it beneath layers of machismo and abuse.

To Stefan:


http://youtu.be/GtkST5-ZFHw

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:21 AM
if people tell I'm gay than they are wrong as every woman who has been with me can attest xD

Now tell me why u r so sure Im gay? What did Arberesha tell u?

Yes, feminise him so what you two did together can be OK in your mind. Like I said, you could be bi, but I doubt it. All I know is you definitely like men.

But no, I told him I thought you were gay and he merely said he thought it too...why?

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 02:21 AM
if people tell I'm gay than they are wrong as every woman who has been with me can attest xD

Now tell me why u r so sure Im gay? What did Arberesha tell u?

I didn't tell him anything. :o Check your reps!

Oneeye
12-08-2014, 02:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBLEYjXr_Nw

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:23 AM
Yes, feminise him so what you two did together can be OK in your mind. Like I said, you could be bi, but I doubt it. All I know is you definitely like men.

But no, I told him I thought you were gay and he merely said he thought it too...why?

What made u ask her that question in first place?

NatiaCutie
12-08-2014, 02:23 AM
I hadn't thought of this before but it explains a lot.
Stefan is a very violent person, and uses a lot of sexual innuendo in his speech. That sort of combination actually does make me thing of repressed closeted homosexuals. The fact he 'jokes' around with having sex with other men is also saying.

Well spotted Longbowman.

It's a shame. I'm sure that if Serbia was a more free and progressive society, Stefan Dusan could just be free and a likeable person embracing his homosexuality. Instead, we get to deal with a hateful man. It also explains his mysoginist views. He's purging his frustration and victim status (family violence prevented his sexual fulfillment), by trying to oppress woman and have them fit his warped view of the world and society.

It's very sad, but it shows once more why archaic and antiquated societies end up doing so much damage to people.

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 02:24 AM
What made u ask her that question in first place?

Half the forum knows we're flirting, what's wrong with that?

Proctor
12-08-2014, 02:24 AM
Why does everyone say I'm a psychopath xD

Sometimes it seems like you are, no offense.

Like that one time I recall you saying last year, you said you jacked off watching 9/11 videos.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:25 AM
What made u ask her that question in first place?

Dude, it's a him. Feminising him doesn't make whatever you talked about/did together (and you're making it very obvious you did something together) less gay.

Actually the way you describe relationships, your beliefs about marriage, your opinions about love, etc. That sort of thing. It took me a couple of threads to realise though if it makes you feel better.

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 02:25 AM
I suggest Stefan Dusan change his attitude if he wants to meet a nice boy who likes him.

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 02:25 AM
I suggest Stefan Dusan change his attitude if he wants to meet a nice boy who likes him.

I like his attitude, it's sexy.

Sikeliot
12-08-2014, 02:27 AM
I like his attitude, it's sexy.

You might like men who can push you around, I don't. He is all yours.

Armand_Duval
12-08-2014, 02:27 AM
What does this mean?

Anyhow, Stefan dude, you really are overcompensating.

Run thread, though :)


Well does fudge packer works for you?...;)

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:28 AM
Well does fudge packer works for you?...;)

I love fudge so much.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:28 AM
Actually the way you describe relationships, your beliefs about marriage, your opinions about love, etc. That sort of thing. It took me a couple of threads to realise though if it makes you feel better.

The way I talk about relationships is common to my family since we practiced arrange marriages, and divorce is impossible. U have to die to get out but u cannot divorce. My grandmother was beaten and cheated on by my grandfather but she couldn't divorce, though she became fatter and fatter according to my father, to distance herself from him. In the end my grandfather was fearful she would poison him, it got that bad but divorce wasn't allowed. If you were to talk to them they'd say same thing about marriage: It's duty to the family, not yourself.

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 02:29 AM
You might like men who can push you around, I don't. He is all yours.

Who said he's pushing me around? No one pushes me around and thanks, real men are all mine.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:29 AM
The way I talk about relationships is common to my family since we practiced arrange marriages, and divorce is impossible. U have to die to get out but u cannot divorce. My grandmother was beaten and cheated on by my grandfather but she couldn't divorce, though she became fatter and fatter according to my father, to distance herself from him. In the end my grandfather was fearful she would poison him, it got that bad but divorce wasn't allowed. If you were to talk to them they'd say same thing about marriage: It's duty to the family, not yourself.

It's not about divorce. Chileans don't even allow divorce. It's simply how you think relationships work and why they should work like that.

NatiaCutie
12-08-2014, 02:30 AM
The way I talk about relationships is common to my family since we practiced arrange marriages, and divorce is impossible. U have to die to get out but u cannot divorce. My grandmother was beaten and cheated on by my grandfather but she couldn't divorce, though she became fatter and fatter according to my father, to distance herself from him. In the end my grandfather was fearful she would poison him, it got that bad but divorce wasn't allowed. If you were to talk to them they'd say same thing about marriage: It's duty to the family, not yourself.

Your family's barbaric ways have no room in the future. The European Union should make sure to pressure the Serbian government into outrooting this sort of insanity from the country.

You just admitted to ruining a person's life to favour a subnormal notion of honour. Crime apologist.

Aviator
12-08-2014, 02:30 AM
I strongly dislike homosexuality as well, but after all of this, Stefan does seem to take it to a suspicious level.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:31 AM
It's not about divorce. Chileans don't even allow divorce. It's simply how you think relationships work and why they should work like that.

Do u think when people are arranged a marriage they think in term of "romantic love". There is no such concept. I have a 18 year old cousin married to a 50 something business man (she is now in her early 20s). Do you think she really loves him? She married him because he promised her family property on Cyprus. That's how it goes in my family.

Like I said, u are really foreign to my mindset.

Aviator
12-08-2014, 02:31 AM
Your family's barbaric ways have no room in the future. The European Union should make sure to pressure the Serbian government into outrooting this sort of insanity from the country.

Constantly crying out for help from a dying entity. Sad.

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 02:33 AM
Your family's barbaric ways have no room in the future. The European Union should make sure to pressure the Serbian government into outrooting this sort of insanity from the country.

You just admitted to ruining a person's life to favour a subnormal notion of honour. Crime apologist.

Seriously? The European Union? :lol:

They can't do shit on the Balkans.

Merida
12-08-2014, 02:33 AM
Not sure whether this is true or not but several people have told me that Stefan is actually a homosexual. So, I'm going to say Stefan.

xD Come on, by people telling you you mean he made a pass at you, right? ;)


jk, brother.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:34 AM
Do u think when people are arranged a marriage they think in term of "romantic love". There is no such concept. I have a 18 year old cousin married to a 50 something business man (she is now in her early 20s). Do you think she really loves him? She married him because he promised her family property on Cyprus. That's how it goes in my family.

Like I said, u are really foreign to my mindset.

Perhaps your entire family is gay, mate, but the fact you don't believe in romantic love to me pretty much proves that you are gay. I can't speak for your family as I don't know them. Anyhow, 4.30am here, everyone now thinks you're gay, mission accomplished, I'm going to bed within 10 minutes. Night night.

Armand_Duval
12-08-2014, 02:34 AM
What does this mean?

Anyhow, Stefan dude, you really are overcompensating.

Run thread, though :)


Sorry it was chutney ferret, my mistake. Lolz.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:35 AM
Perhaps your entire family is gay, mate, but the fact you don't believe in romantic love to me pretty much proves that you are gay. I can't speak for your family as I don't know them. Anyhow, 4.30am here, everyone now thinks you're gay, mission accomplished, I'm going to bed within 10 minutes. Night night.

So my female cousin who married that businessman by the basis on what her family would get is also gay? xD

Interesting.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:37 AM
So my female cousin who married that businessman by the basis on what her family would get is also gay? xD

Interesting.

Nah, sounds like her family forced her to do it? If she had no choice, she's probably not gay. Again, don't know your family, but it seems unlikely.

NatiaCutie
12-08-2014, 02:37 AM
Constantly crying out for help from a dying entity. Sad.

A couple of years ago, people feared a Grexit would end it. Ended up being a lie.
Brussels will not dissapear anytime soon. People believe in the integration process more than your lunatic white supremacist views.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:38 AM
Nah, sounds like her family forced her to do it? If she had no choice, she's probably not gay. Again, don't know your family, but it seems unlikely.

They can't force her to do it, laws are against that. They "strongly encouraged" her to do it, and she did it.

Proctor
12-08-2014, 02:39 AM
I hit her out of love, because she needs to learn her lesson, much similar to how I'd hit a kid or a dog. To teach a lesson.

Negative reinforcement. That's a god awful way of raising a child. Also, I don't think I would ever hit any woman that I love. "Teaching a lesson" is not a sufficient enough reason for assaulting a person.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:39 AM
They can't force her to do it, laws are against that. They "strongly encouraged" her to do it, and she did it.

Sad. Same difference though, if you see what I mean.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 02:40 AM
Stefan dusan isn't gay lol.

Aviator
12-08-2014, 02:40 AM
A couple of years ago, people feared a Grexit would end it. Ended up being a lie.
Brussels will not dissapear anytime soon. People believe in the integration process more than your lunatic white supremacist views.

And yet, Euroskeptic parties keep popping up everywhere.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:41 AM
Sad. Same difference though, if you see what I mean.

The father/mother are very happy, they now live on Cyprus. Their other kids are married to more age appropriate spouses, the family is flourishing, and now the family married in millions of dollars.

Her self sacrifice made the family better. That's how our family operates.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:42 AM
The father/mother are very happy, they now live on Cyprus. Their other kids are married to more age appropriate spouses, the family is flourishing, and now the family married in millions of dollars.

Her self sacrifice made the family better. That's how our family operates.

I'm happy for you. You're still gay though. Night mate :)

NatiaCutie
12-08-2014, 02:43 AM
And yet, Euroskeptic parties keep popping up everywhere.

I don't know of any country where they are somehow a leading political force. The closest thing I can think of is probably the French FN, who isn't White Supremacist like yourself anyway. Yet, they'll never get passed 25-30% of the vote and will forever keep losing. Just like UKIP will never be a majority in Westminster.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:45 AM
I don't believe in romantic love, either. I believe people form emotional attachments that is referred to as love but start off as lust and gradually becomes a comfortable routine.

U must be gay too, and u talked about longbowman hitting on u too, showing u want him xD

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 02:45 AM
Negative reinforcement. That's a god awful way of raising a child. Also, I don't think I would ever hit any woman that I love. "Teaching a lesson" is not a sufficient enough reason for assaulting a person.

Nothing wrong with hitting your kids, if they misbehave you hit them. No big deal.
Jesus Christ, is everyone in the west becoming this soft?

KawaiiKawaii
12-08-2014, 02:46 AM
I don't know of any country where they are somehow a leading political force. The closest thing I can think of is probably the French FN, who isn't White Supremacist like yourself anyway. Yet, they'll never get passed 25-30% of the vote and will forever keep losing. Just like UKIP will never be a majority in Westminster.

Switzerland. 3 of the 4 main parties are against an EU membership.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:46 AM
Nothing wrong with hitting your kids, if they misbehave you hit them. No big deal.
Jesus Christ, is everyone in the west becoming this soft?

They're Americans bro, my own father broke my nose, broke my hand. They don't know what it's like to be raised in the Balkans.

KawaiiKawaii
12-08-2014, 02:51 AM
They're Americans bro, my own father broke my nose, broke my hand. They don't know what it's like to be raised in the Balkans.

Wow. I guess it explains a lot.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 02:52 AM
They're Americans bro, my own father broke my nose, broke my hand. They don't know what it's like to be raised in the Balkans.
Another thing is that they try to be the kids best buddy. Your suppose to put fear in their hearts. I always behaved because I feared of what my dad would do to me.

Melina
12-08-2014, 02:55 AM
Yeah I have a good notion in understanding why younger women marry without haveing that chemical switch in the brain called love. Sometimes it is just a necessity or just a way to help your family. This was normal in Europe back then, don't know why people are so up in arms today. I mean is the west any better by promoting "love" relationships that are from lust and mostly never work.

One problem with the west it is based on "me" culture. Just look at their programming for god sakes. There is a new one that they wont stop promoting called "A girlfriends guide to divorce" or something like that. It just shows how people in the west are driven by emotions and lust. This is based on individualism. They don't think of family or their nation. They just think about them. Their songs are based on emotional relationships while Eastern euro songs are based on nation. Family and nation goes hand in hand.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 02:55 AM
Another thing is that they try to be the kids best buddy. Your suppose to put fear in their hearts. I always behaved because I feared of what my dad would do to me.

If u watch two wolves play, one will essentially get his jaws around the others throat to indicate his dominance. My father taught me from early age what it meant to be man, if u can't throw ur physical body around, u couldn't be man.

I remember once when he beat me bloody, i actually got badly cut on door and I feel down and he stomped on me some. Later, he realized I was badly hurt as I was bleeding everywhere and he helped me. He told me the most encouraging words a kid needs to hear at that time when ur so badly beaten : "I couldn't beat my own father until he became weak from cancer".

Merida
12-08-2014, 03:07 AM
I don't know who's gayer than whom, but this thread is very gay xD.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 03:08 AM
I never feared my father. I respected him. I was afraid of disappointing him. I wasn't afraid of being hit by him. My mother hit me when she was frustrated. Usually over minor stupid things (never in front of my father) and my respect for her is basic. I even hang the phone up on her. Something I would never do to my father.
I respect and love my dad more then anything in this world. I wouldn't do anything to dishonour him and our family name.

But those beatens he gave me when I was a kid, didn't affect my love or respect for him, because I understood why he did it. Its just how it is.

But sometimes the way I see kids behave these days is sicking. I see sons and daughters call their mothers whores and bitches. And how did the parents punish them? By grounding them or taking their phone or whatever bullshit away. Now what does that do? Absolutely nothing. If kids misbehave they need an ass beating. The ass beating level depends on what they did.

For example, if say one of my kids(god forbidden) went those that faggot emo/goth phase. I would beat the phase out of them with my hands and belt.

Atvend
12-08-2014, 03:10 AM
I never feared my father. I respected him. I was afraid of disappointing him. I wasn't afraid of being hit by him (never laid a hand on me). My mother hit me when she was frustrated. Usually over minor stupid things (never in front of my father) and my respect for her is basic. I even hang the phone up on her. Something I would never do to my father.

Forget what they are saying, it's not about fear, it's about learning to not make mistakes. When a young child makes a mistake, you are not going to carefully explain it to him in a logical way, he wont understand. You have to punish him so he understands that negative consequences. I'm not saying you go and beat up your teenage son, by that time it's out of your hands...

Aviator
12-08-2014, 03:11 AM
I don't know of any country where they are somehow a leading political force. The closest thing I can think of is probably the French FN, who isn't White Supremacist like yourself anyway. Yet, they'll never get passed 25-30% of the vote and will forever keep losing. Just like UKIP will never be a majority in Westminster.

I didn't say the EU is dead, I said it's dying. First, let me ask you, what is your field of study?

Atvend
12-08-2014, 03:12 AM
I didn't say the EU is dead, I said it's dying. First, let me ask you, what is your field of study?

Willing to bet my life its women/gender studies...

Merida
12-08-2014, 03:13 AM
I hit her out of love, because she needs to learn her lesson, much similar to how I'd hit a kid or a dog. To teach a lesson.

Stefan wtf :icon_no:

Melina
12-08-2014, 03:14 AM
I didn't say the EU is dead, I said it's dying. First, let me ask you, what is your field of study?

She said in tiny chat women's study...lol

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 03:17 AM
Well, if I had a son disrespect me or the mother, who happens to be a supermodel, I'd crack him one but I'm more like my mother than my father by nature. I can't see myself ever hitting a daughter, however. For some reason I'm accepting of a boy getting a whack but not a girl. I guess I'm sexist.
I don't think I could hit my daughter either tbh.
But if she does something radical and crazy say like i don't know.. Say.. leaves the kitchen. I might have to slap her a couple of times.

Oneeye
12-08-2014, 03:17 AM
I didn't say the EU is dead, I said it's dying. First, let me ask you, what is your field of study?


She said in tiny chat women's study...lol


Willing to bet my life its women/gender studies...


Ten bucks says gender studies or some form of sociology. Any takers?



Pretty sure she said that it was Gender Studies in her intro thread, peeps.

Melina
12-08-2014, 03:22 AM
Pretty sure she said that it was Gender Studies in her intro thread, peeps.

Typical....

Atvend
12-08-2014, 03:23 AM
dayum...a walking stereotype.

wvwvw
12-08-2014, 03:30 AM
I respect and love my dad more then anything in this world. I wouldn't do anything to dishonour him and our family name.

You are responsible for your actions not your family. If you do something wrong you aren't dishonoring your family name but yourself.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 03:34 AM
You are responsible for your actions not your family. If you do something wrong you aren't dishonoring your family name but yourself.
That's western mentality.
I don't believe in that individualism bullshit. Everything I do reflects on my family.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 03:36 AM
You are responsible for your actions not your family. If you do something wrong you aren't dishonoring your family name but yourself.

U know my cutie_cranky that isn't true.

Atvend
12-08-2014, 03:38 AM
And so hence the accusations of being a troll. No real person could be this stereotypical on point.

One would have to be pretty pathetic to engage in such high level trolling though, as in basement dwelling no lifer neckbeard. I almost hope she is real...

Gustave H
12-08-2014, 03:38 AM
xD Come on, by people telling you you mean he made a pass at you, right? ;)


jk, brother.

wut

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 03:38 AM
The thought of a chick giving me a handjob at a movie theater with me saying, "This reflects on your family, you know" made me laugh.

in some way it does. When I first got into my first few sexual relationships with western girls, I had this weird feeling like I was being disrespectful, dishonoring their father, and deserved some retribution.

However that went away. Now I see westerners don't care about this, which I cannot somehow reconcile in my brain. It might be similar to u how u can't reconcile my thought process.

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 03:40 AM
U know my cutie_cranky that isn't true.

Who you calling cutie???

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 03:43 AM
The thought of a chick giving me a handjob at a movie theater with me saying, "This reflects on your family, you know" made me laugh. "You dishonor your family by not using enough spit and consequently doing a crappy job of it. Be gone."

Now I thought of how many sons I have dishonoured... Dear lord, I'm a walking succubus. :eyes

Guapo
12-08-2014, 03:44 AM
Gay is a lifestyle, that's all.

Mark
12-08-2014, 03:46 AM
Gay is a lifestyle, that's all.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=389&dateline=1415858861

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 03:46 AM
The thought of a chick giving me a handjob at a movie theater with me saying, "This reflects on your family, you know" made me laugh. "You dishonor your family by not using enough spit and consequently doing a crappy job of it. Be gone."
That's funny I admit lol.
But those types of girls your fucking come from families that dont a shit about honour and pride.

Anways, say I was a crackhead, a fag, or something obscure, I would be bringing great shame to my family. And hopefully if father raises my little brither right, he will hunt me down and put a bullet in my head, hopefully.

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 03:46 AM
Gay is a lifestyle, that's all.

http://i.imgur.com/d6lNySc.gif

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 03:47 AM
That's funny I admit lol.
But those types of girls your fucking come from families that dont a shit about honour and pride.

Anways, say I was a crackhead, a fag, or something obscure, I would be bring great shame to my family. And hopefully if father raises my little brither right, he will hunt me down and put a bullet in my head.

You don't need to be either, you already deserve a bullet, but I don't know how MENA families from Shkoder handle this.

Guapo
12-08-2014, 03:47 AM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=389&dateline=1415858861

http://i59.tinypic.com/1zpjxjl.jpg

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 03:48 AM
The concept that women were very chaste in the past is a Victorian era concept. If you read the medieval shizzle you'd see sexual relations were much more open. Even homosexuality got something of a pass at times. Much of all we know we're taught about the past is idealized distortion. For example, chivalry was just talk. It was an idealized way of life but in the real world that's not how they behaved. So on and so forth...

This is not what I was taught in the past but in the current. My own father for example forbade make-up for my sisters and required them to be home after school. He was ofc very concerned with them doing something to make them 'unchaste' to the point you would think it pathological. Anyways, there was no disobeying him or people got hurt.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 03:50 AM
You don't need to be either, you already deserve a bullet, but I don't know how MENA families from Shkoder handle this.
No ones talking to you gabel

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 03:52 AM
No ones talking to you gabel

You're just mad you can't have me with that Joan Rivers nose... To the left, ugly<-

Proctor
12-08-2014, 03:54 AM
Nothing wrong with hitting your kids, if they misbehave you hit them. No big deal.
Jesus Christ, is everyone in the west becoming this soft?

Then you're not much better than savages. There is absolutely no evidence showing that child abuse is an ideal or even good way of raising your child. Also, explain to me this, why does someone get charged with assault if they hit someone on the street, yet if a person hits their child nothing comes of it, they are just as vulnerable as another group in our society, the elderly, now if you saw someone hitting an old man or woman, wouldn't you say something or try help? Why isn't it the same for children?

Nothing good comes out of child abuse and countless studies only go to prove this. That said, if a person acts like a brute, I don't think they are fit to have kids and in that case if I had it my way they would not be permitted to breed if eugenics ever takes place. I always assume that if a person abuses their kids they have a low IQ/low inhibitions thus more prone to be a criminal and do other stupid shit.

A couple links you may want to take a look at (there are many more btw if needed):


Bullying, Child Abuse Hasten Aging in Kids (http://www.livescience.com/19858-bullying-child-abuse-aging.html)

The Deleterious Effects of Child Abuse (http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=doc&id=28473)

Childhood abuse, neglect, and household dysfunction and the risk of illicit drug use: the adverse childhood experiences study. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12612237)

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 03:55 AM
Then you're not much better than savages. There is absolutely no evidence showing that child abuse is an ideal or even good way of raising your child. Also, explain to me this, why does someone get charged with assault if they hit someone on the street, yet if a person hits their child nothing comes of it, they are just as vulnerable as another group in our society, the elderly, now if you saw someone hitting an old man or woman, wouldn't you say something or try help? Why isn't it the same for children?

Nothing good comes out of child abuse and countless studies only go to prove this. That said, if a person acts like a brute, I don't think they are fit to have kids and in that case if I had it my way they would not be permitted to breed if eugenics ever takes place. I always assume that if a person abuses their kids they have a low IQ/low inhibitions thus more prone to be a criminal and do other stupid shit.

A couple links you may want to take a look at (there are many more btw if needed):


Bullying, Child Abuse Hasten Aging in Kids (http://www.livescience.com/19858-bullying-child-abuse-aging.html)

The Deleterious Effects of Child Abuse (http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=doc&id=28473)

Childhood abuse, neglect, and household dysfunction and the risk of illicit drug use: the adverse childhood experiences study. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12612237)

no one cares for ur links, this is Balkan.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 03:56 AM
Then you're not much better than savages. There is absolutely no evidence showing that child abuse is an ideal or even good way of raising your child. Also, explain to me this, why does someone get charged with assault if they hit someone on the street, yet if a person hits their child nothing comes of it, they are just as vulnerable as another group in our society, the elderly, now if you saw someone hitting an old man or woman, wouldn't you say something or try help? Why isn't it the same for children?

Nothing good comes out of child abuse and countless studies only go to prove this. That said, if a person acts like a brute, I don't think they are fit to have kids and in that case if I had it my way they would not be permitted to breed if eugenics ever takes place. I always assume that if a person abuses their kids they have a low IQ/low inhibitions thus more prone to be a criminal and do other stupid shit.

A couple links you may want to take a look at (there are many more btw if needed):


Bullying, Child Abuse Hasten Aging in Kids (http://www.livescience.com/19858-bullying-child-abuse-aging.html)

The Deleterious Effects of Child Abuse (http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=doc&id=28473)

Childhood abuse, neglect, and household dysfunction and the risk of illicit drug use: the adverse childhood experiences study. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12612237)

Bro I couldn't care less xD

Its just how it is. Cultural difference

Aviator
12-08-2014, 03:57 AM
Ah, Gender Studies... What a joke.. Well then, I suppose there's no reason to bore her with Economics.

Guapo
12-08-2014, 03:58 AM
Then you're not much better than savages. There is absolutely no evidence showing that child abuse is an ideal or even good way of raising your child. Also, explain to me this, why does someone get charged with assault if they hit someone on the street, yet if a person hits their child nothing comes of it, they are just as vulnerable as another group in our society, the elderly, now if you saw someone hitting an old man or woman, wouldn't you say something or try help? Why isn't it the same for children?

Nothing good comes out of child abuse and countless studies only go to prove this. That said, if a person acts like a brute, I don't think they are fit to have kids and in that case if I had it my way they would not be permitted to breed if eugenics ever takes place. I always assume that if a person abuses their kids they have a low IQ/low inhibitions thus more prone to be a criminal and do other stupid shit.

A couple links you may want to take a look at (there are many more btw if needed):


Bullying, Child Abuse Hasten Aging in Kids (http://www.livescience.com/19858-bullying-child-abuse-aging.html)

The Deleterious Effects of Child Abuse (http://www.mentalhelp.net/poc/view_doc.php?type=doc&id=28473)

Childhood abuse, neglect, and household dysfunction and the risk of illicit drug use: the adverse childhood experiences study. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12612237)

Rudel is a an obnoxious skinny Franco-Celtic dork,anyone is more superior than him, and you claiming that you are more Superior than Longbowman is a joke.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 03:58 AM
Ah, Gender Studies... What a joke.. Well then, I suppose there's no reason to bore her with Economics.

Micro here bro, exam on Thursday xD

Aviator
12-08-2014, 04:00 AM
Micro here bro, exam on Thursday xD

Good deal! I liked Micro better than Macro. Are you majoring it, or do you just have to take a few Econ classes?

Proctor
12-08-2014, 04:01 AM
you claiming that you are more Superior than Longbowman is a joke.

That's exactly what it is, a joke.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 04:02 AM
Good deal! I liked Micro better than Macro. Are you majoring it, or do you just have to take a few Econ classes?
I have to take them. No offense, but I wanna kill myself in that class. Those fucking graphs kill me too.

NatiaCutie
12-08-2014, 04:03 AM
Bro I couldn't care less xD

Its just how it is. Cultural difference

Brutality and barbarism aren't culture, they don't deserve any respect. Same as Islamic radicalism.
They are simply an expression of a savage and archaic past that harms people and prevents emancipation.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 04:03 AM
You're just mad you can't have me with that Joan Rivers nose... To the left, ugly<-

Guapo your a cunt xD

Oke bro, thanks

Aviator
12-08-2014, 04:03 AM
I have to take them. No offense, but I wanna kill myself in that class. Those fucking graphs kill me too.

It's like that for most people, no worries. I enjoy it because I see it as a means to an (very specific) end.

In any case, I'm sure you'll do fine.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 04:04 AM
Brutality and barbarism aren't culture, they don't deserve any respect. Same as Islamic radicalism.
They are simply an expression of a savage and archaic past that harms people and prevents emancipation.

What if I like this lifestyle?

Aviator
12-08-2014, 04:04 AM
I can't take her seriously now..

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 04:06 AM
Guapo your a cunt xD

Oke bro, thanks

I'll pay for your nose job, you'll get Misse in no time.

Guapo
12-08-2014, 04:06 AM
I can't take him seriously now..

fixed

NatiaCutie
12-08-2014, 04:07 AM
What if I like this lifestyle?

It simply means you have been poorly raised or educated. It's a real problem in the Balkan region that needs to be addressed by the EU and civil society movements.

Aviator
12-08-2014, 04:07 AM
Brutality and barbarism aren't culture, they don't deserve any respect. Same as Islamic radicalism.
They are simply an expression of a savage and archaic past that harms people and prevents emancipation.

Since you're so obsessed with advancing and moving away from the past (I am too,) I assume you support eugenics programs?

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 04:08 AM
It simply means you have been poorly raised or educated. It's a real problem in the Balkan region that needs to be addressed by the EU and civil society movements.

My education is north American. Catholic school too xD

Your so boring. Same shit over and over again

Slang King
12-08-2014, 04:08 AM
Rudel is a an obnoxious skinny Franco-Celtic dork,anyone is more superior than him, and you claiming that you are more Superior than Longbowman is a joke.

Germanics are skinnier and gayer.

Guapo
12-08-2014, 04:10 AM
Germanics are skinnier and gayer.

Another sockpuppet just joined the trollicity.

Pjeter Pan
12-08-2014, 04:15 AM
I'll pay for your nose job, you'll get Misse in no time.
Shit bro I appreciate it.
But I haven't seen Missy's face, so idk.
She also hates grosh, what am I gonna eat??

SardiniaAtlantis
12-08-2014, 04:17 AM
Sometimes, I mix tomato, yogurt, olive oil, olives, salt, and pepper, and a bit of basil it's really good together.

Atvend
12-08-2014, 04:18 AM
This thread has to be the ultimate derailment...

Slang King
12-08-2014, 04:19 AM
I am jacking off right now

Also
12-08-2014, 04:22 AM
Pretty sure she said that it was Gender Studies in her intro thread, peeps.

What a shock!! Who would have thought?!?!?!

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 04:35 AM
Your grandfather fucked the house keeper. So obviously things were done that weren't seen as acceptable but no one cared enough to do anything about it. Even you know about it.

Ofc humans fell short, but that doesn't mean they aren't trying.

Alenka
12-08-2014, 04:51 AM
I met Longbowman and he didn't make a pass at me despite my exceptionally good looks.
But... A while ago you told me Longbowman is great in bed and can go for hours.
xD

Ianus
12-08-2014, 07:23 AM
Both can be part of the Village People.

Petalpusher
12-08-2014, 08:31 AM
The only straight material of this thread is Oneeye's new signature.

Jehan
12-08-2014, 08:54 AM
I brought it up because it helped prove my point. Although I was speaking of further back in history when social culture was weaker. For the longest time during the Middle Ages Catholic priests would have children, for example, despite it being against the rules of the Catholic church and live with these women. So on and so forth...

It was not so openly, for the priest kids, they were qualify as "nephew"

ЛыSSый
12-08-2014, 08:58 AM
great, excellent. i laught from this theme. my opinion that noone from both.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 10:16 AM
This is not what I was taught in the past but in the current. My own father for example forbade make-up for my sisters and required them to be home after school. He was ofc very concerned with them doing something to make them 'unchaste' to the point you would think it pathological. Anyways, there was no disobeying him or people got hurt.

Dude your father was pathological, psychotic, and even more abusive than you, and explains a lot about you.

wvwvw
12-08-2014, 12:22 PM
how am i gay if not attracted to man nor have relationships with them? U just want me to be gay to prove 21st century right. To u the idea that strong culture can prevent gays is against ur notion that someone is born gay.


http://www.autostraddle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/222-640x480.jpg

StormBringer
12-08-2014, 12:32 PM
I can't believe I read the entire thread xD

Also
12-08-2014, 01:29 PM
I can't believe I read the entire thread xD

This is TA's gossip thread. Everyone is going gay here. Before you realize you are cross dressing as Kim Kardashian.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 01:33 PM
Dude your father was pathological, psychotic, and even more abusive than you, and explains a lot about you.

few men could compare to my father. I was raised in military family and with values of this, for that I'm thankful.

He also didn't take anything from anyone, I remember seeing with my own eyes 3 fights of his where he destroyed the other. He was very feared and respected back in my village.

TheForeigner
12-08-2014, 02:15 PM
This thread is gay. Apricity sure has a lot of gays, open and closeted, as well as many gay related subjects.:lol00002:

TheForeigner
12-08-2014, 02:18 PM
I voted Dusan because he is the more obnoxious person and says gayish and disgusting things. Longbowman is just too liberal and pro-gay. I actually think none is gay at all. Wanted to see what the votes look like. Apparently people think Longbowman is gayer for being favorable to them.

TheForeigner
12-08-2014, 02:19 PM
When his grandfather wasn't fucking the house keeper he was being targeted by families whose members he killed and having his son taste his dinner so his wife didn't poison him. This isn't normal behavior in any society.

Are he and his family members mobsters or bandits of some kind?

aimar
12-08-2014, 02:20 PM
longbowman is a bit gayer I think.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:20 PM
I voted Dusan because he is the more obnoxious person and says gayish and disgusting things. Longbowman is just too liberal and pro-gay. I actually think none is gay at all. Wanted to see what the votes look like. Apparently people think Longbowman is gayer for being favorable to them.

Stefan changed the poll to read 'who is sexier' which is why I have more votes. I imagine, anyhow, he changed it after about 16 replies. The poll is not a good indicator. I think he's scared of realising what everyone else already knows.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:23 PM
longbowman is a bit gayer I think.

Just read the thread. Stefan is literally a closeted homosexual. Which has made him the repressed ball of anger and hatred he is today. It's quite obvious if one puts any thought at all to it.

Stefan's idiotic and desperate attempt to prove he isn't gay by asking who is gayer knowing many would read who's more liberal and vote for me because I'm more tolerant than he is is honestly pathetic. I wasn't consulted (not that I care) and it's a desperate psychological last stand by the master of denial and living in his own reality. Frightened of the results, he changed the poll to who's sexier anyway.

His answers on this thread have revealed, even to his supporters, a violent and psychopathic man from an abusive family with deep-set homosexual or homoerotic tendencies.

He's gay. I'm not gay. Simple as.

aimar
12-08-2014, 02:25 PM
Just read the thread. Stefan is literally a closeted homosexual. Which has made him the repressed ball of anger and hatred he is today. It's quite obvious if one puts any thought at all to it.

Stefan's idiotic and desperate attempt to prove he isn't gay by asking who is gayer knowing many would say me because I'm more liberal than he is is honestly pathetic. I wasn't consulted (not that I care) and it's a desperate psychological last stand by the master of denial and living in his own reality.

His answers on this thread have revealed, even to his supporters, a violent and psychopathic man from an abusive family with deep-set homosexual or homoerotic tendencies.

He's gay. I'm not gay. Simple as.


Ok, I'll read it.
But he does look manly, you've got to give him that.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:28 PM
Ok, I'll read it.
But he does look manly, you've got to give him that.

He does. But in the poll Stefan 'got the idea' from, I really wasn't saying 'you look like a fag lol' or anything of the sort. No. I'm saying he's gay. He is a homosexual or perhaps a bisexual but he definitely has sexual feelings for men and probably doesn't for women. I would posit a lot of his machismo comes from overcompensation, which again is revealed in this thread. He is 6"4 and bearded but gays can be 6"4 and bearded. Indeed, I am bearded. Although not 6"4.

TheForeigner
12-08-2014, 02:44 PM
He does. But in the poll Stefan 'got the idea' from, I really wasn't saying 'you look like a fag lol' or anything of the sort. No. I'm saying he's gay. He is a homosexual or perhaps a bisexual but he definitely has sexual feelings for men and probably doesn't for women. I would posit a lot of his machismo comes from overcompensation, which again is revealed in this thread. He is 6"4 and bearded but gays can be 6"4 and bearded. Indeed, I am bearded. Although not 6"4.

Barbatus is bearded and a more rugged type I think. He lives in Canada, not far from Minnesotta. Mmaybe they can hook up ''on the downlow''.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 02:44 PM
Barbatus is bearded and a more rugged type I think. He lives in Canada, not far from Minnesotta. Mmaybe they can hook up ''on the downlow''.

No, I like Barbatus and wouldn't want to inflict Stefan on him.

TheForeigner
12-08-2014, 02:46 PM
Regular family, apparently.
You think he isn't involved in illegal activity in the US and Serbia or that he never was?

TheForeigner
12-08-2014, 02:47 PM
No, I like Barbatus and wouldn't want to inflict Stefan on him.

Stefan would be a violent butt buddy and leave Barbatus very butthurt and bruised indeed.:)

Oneeye
12-08-2014, 03:11 PM
When his grandfather wasn't fucking the house keeper he was being targeted by families whose members he killed and having his son taste his dinner so his wife didn't poison him. This isn't normal behavior in any society.


Sounds like a saga. xD

TheForeigner
12-08-2014, 03:12 PM
Brutality and barbarism aren't culture, they don't deserve any respect. Same as Islamic radicalism.
They are simply an expression of a savage and archaic past that harms people and prevents emancipation.

Part of this is true and makes sense. She is hard to get.

Jehan
12-08-2014, 03:56 PM
Do u think when people are arranged a marriage they think in term of "romantic love". There is no such concept. I have a 18 year old cousin married to a 50 something business man (she is now in her early 20s). Do you think she really loves him? She married him because he promised her family property on Cyprus. That's how it goes in my family.

Like I said, u are really foreign to my mindset.

I really don't understand your system of values.
They sold your cousins for a property in Cyprus. It's your blood, your family, not a car or a goods! It's how you see your family, a way to get money?

A man of honor should kill the old bastard to give freedom to your cousin, and i'am very serious about it.

Arbėrori
12-08-2014, 04:03 PM
Could you people bother with something more important and meaningful such as threads like these? No one cares who is and who isn't gay, I guess it's become a novelty nowadays to know someone else's business.

Who cares!

Ewout
12-08-2014, 04:04 PM
Stefan, you are dumb and gay and lbm is a smarter homosexual, so there you have it:thumbs up

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 04:06 PM
Could you people bother with something more important and meaningful such as threads like these? No one cares who is and who isn't gay, I guess it's become a novelty nowadays to know someone else's business.

Who cares!

It explains his entire personality, that's why we care.

Also it's fun, much less dry than 'what's whiter, a fridge or a freezer.'

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 04:06 PM
I really don't understand your system of values.
They sold your cousins for a property in Cyprus. It's your blood, your family, not a car or a goods! It's how you see your family, a way to get money?

A man of honor should kill the old bastard to give freedom to your cousin, and i'am very serious about it.

I was pointing out her duty to the family, she secured her family inheritance into millions of $ and connection to a rich businessman. Her other siblings had more age appropriate spouses to have more kids.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like what they did. But I'm impressed their daughter self sacrificed herself like that so her parents and siblings would be connected to a rich businessman.

Anyways I never met her in person, I met her parents and they are very proud they showed me pictures of her/him and the house he built for them (the parents) in Cyprus. She didn't look very happy in the pictures but who knows, maybe she is happy.

They have 2 more sons (one who I met), and another daughter. It's not something u can actually comprehend, but in our family we try to be a unit, individual happiness is downplayed for people to sacrifice themselves for the family. While I find u examples where women suffer, men suffer too. Because they are often encouraged to die in war, just so the family has honor to brag about. Can you imagine, pushing a son from beginning of birth with notion he has to die in war just so family can be proud of him?

Beit El
12-08-2014, 04:08 PM
Just read the thread. Stefan is literally a closeted homosexual. Which has made him the repressed ball of anger and hatred he is today. It's quite obvious if one puts any thought at all to it.

Stefan's idiotic and desperate attempt to prove he isn't gay by asking who is gayer knowing many would read who's more liberal and vote for me because I'm more tolerant than he is is honestly pathetic. I wasn't consulted (not that I care) and it's a desperate psychological last stand by the master of denial and living in his own reality. Frightened of the results, he changed the poll to who's sexier anyway.

His answers on this thread have revealed, even to his supporters, a violent and psychopathic man from an abusive family with deep-set homosexual or homoerotic tendencies.

He's gay. I'm not gay. Simple as.

You're trying too hard.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 04:09 PM
You're trying too hard.

OK mate, just read the thread.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 04:10 PM
Frightened of the results, he changed the poll to who's sexier anyway.

LOL, ur such a liar. U changed the thread and the poll question to "whose sexier" and I changed the thread back. If I could figure out how to change the poll, I would. But I can't.

Why r u such a Jew :D

Beit El
12-08-2014, 04:10 PM
OK mate, just read the thread.

I am doing so.

Ewout
12-08-2014, 04:10 PM
Stefan, how does it feel to be a dumb homosexual imbecile?

MINARDOWICZ
12-08-2014, 04:11 PM
It explains his entire personality, that's why we care.

Also it's fun, much less dry than 'what's whiter, a fridge or a freezer.'

Seriously who's whiter... Iberberians or Italiakikes?

;) JK

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 04:12 PM
Stefan, how does it feel to be a dumb homosexual imbecile?

Better than I would if I were u.

TheForeigner
12-08-2014, 04:13 PM
OK mate, just read the thread.

He is right. You have become too much of a true believer in social liberal dogma. He is obviously not gay. He says what he says, because he is a peasant. I wonder if prison rapists though really were never gay before prison.

Longbowman
12-08-2014, 04:14 PM
LOL, ur such a liar. U changed the thread and the poll question to "whose sexier" and I changed the thread back. If I could figure out how to change the poll, I would. But I can't.

Why r u such a Jew :D

I didn't change the thread, you liar. Why the hell would I change it? I don't give a shit if people think I'm gay or not. I'm prepared to believe someone other than you changed it but I certainly don't care enough what other people think of me to start a thread like this, much less edit the poll to do what, exactly? How does it serve me in any way?

Besides, the only way 9/10 people would think me better looking than you would be if your mum were one of the polled. I've no interest in engaging in a pissing-up-the-wall contest with you. That's all you.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 04:14 PM
He is right. You have become too much of a true believer in social liberal dogma. He is obviously not gay. He says what he says, because he is a peasant. I wonder if prison rapists though really were never gay before prison.

Im not sure if i agree with 'peasant' description but everything else xD

Beit El
12-08-2014, 04:15 PM
I didn't change the thread, you liar. Why the hell would I change it? I don't give a shit if people think I'm gay or not. I'm prepared to believe someone other than you changed it but I certainly don't care enough what other people think of me to start a thread like this, much less edit the poll to do what, exactly? How does it serve me in any way?

Besides, the only way 9/10 people would think me better looking than you would be if your mum were one of the polled. I've no interest in engaging in a pissing-up-the-wall contest with you. That's all you.

I'm reading the thread but you're still trying too hard.

TheForeigner
12-08-2014, 04:15 PM
LOL, ur such a liar. U changed the thread and the poll question to "whose sexier" and I changed the thread back. If I could figure out how to change the poll, I would. But I can't.

Why r u such a Jew :D

I think only moderators would be able to change it.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 04:15 PM
I didn't change the thread, you liar. Why the hell would I change it? I don't give a shit if people think I'm gay or not. I'm prepared to believe someone other than you changed it but I certainly don't care enough what other people think of me to start a thread like this, much less edit the poll to do what, exactly? How does it serve me in any way?

Besides, the only way 9/10 people would think me better looking than you would be if your mum were one of the polled. I've no interest in engaging in a pissing-up-the-wall contest with you. That's all you.

Well Veneda ain't my mother is she :D So so insecure.

You definitely changed the poll. U were caught lying about it. I can't even change the poll, I tried to figure it out and settled to changing back but couldn't.

Stefan_Dusan
12-08-2014, 04:17 PM
I think only moderators would be able to change it.

Ofc, Longbowman changed both the thread title and poll name.

I changed back the thread title to original but I can't figure out to change the poll name. That's all super moderators work.

He is just tried to troll me, when it didn't work, now he is crying like typical Jew. So insecure.