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Belial
12-08-2014, 08:48 AM
Are racists dumb? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent than liberals? A provocative new study from Brock University in Ontario suggests the answer to both questions may be a qualified yes.

The study, published in Psychological Science, showed that people who score low on I.Q. tests in childhood are more likely to develop prejudiced beliefs and socially conservative politics in adulthood.

I.Q., or intelligence quotient, is a score determined by standardized tests, but whether the tests truly reveal intelligence remains a topic of hot debate among psychologists.

Dr. Gordon Hodson, a professor of psychology at the university and the study's lead author, said the finding represented evidence of a vicious cycle: People of low intelligence gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, which stress resistance to change and, in turn, prejudice, he told LiveScience.

Why might less intelligent people be drawn to conservative ideologies? Because such ideologies feature "structure and order" that make it easier to comprehend a complicated world, Dodson said. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice," he added.

Dr. Brian Nosek, a University of Virginia psychologist, echoed those sentiments.

"Reality is complicated and messy," he told The Huffington Post in an email. "Ideologies get rid of the messiness and impose a simpler solution. So, it may not be surprising that people with less cognitive capacity will be attracted to simplifying ideologies."

But Nosek said less intelligent types might be attracted to liberal "simplifying ideologies" as well as conservative ones.

In any case, the study has taken the Internet by storm, with some outspoken liberals saying that it validates their suspicions about conservatives and conservatives arguing that the research has been misinterpreted.

What do you think? Do conservatives tend to be less intelligent? Or is this just political opinion masquerading as science?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html

Discuss dogies. With additional evidence such as my own signature I think it's true.

Aviator
12-08-2014, 08:51 AM
Nice try

Smart enough to know better: Intelligence is not a remedy for racism


ANN ARBOR—Smart people are just as racist as their less intelligent peers—they're just better at concealing their prejudice, according to a University of Michigan study.

"High-ability whites are less likely to report prejudiced attitudes and more likely to say they support racial integration in principle," said Geoffrey Wodtke, a doctoral candidate in sociology. "But they are no more likely than lower-ability whites to support open housing laws and are less likely to support school busing and affirmative action programs."

Wodtke presented his findings at the annual meeting of the American Sociological Association. The National Science Foundation and the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, part of the National Institutes of Health, supported his research.

He analyzed data on the racial attitudes of more than 20,000 white respondents from the nationally representative General Social Survey. He examined how their cognitive ability, as measured by a widely used test of verbal intelligence, was linked with their attitudes about African-Americans, and about different policies designed to redress racial segregation and discrimination.

Respondents were about 47 years old at the time of the interview, on average, and had completed 12.9 years of education. They correctly answered an average of about six of the 10 cognitive ability test questions.

Among Wodtke's findings:

High-ability whites were more likely than low-ability whites to reject residential segregation and to support school integration in principle, and they were more likely to acknowledge racial discrimination in the workplace. But there were only trivial differences across cognitive ability levels in support for policies designed to realize racial equality in practice.
In some cases, more intelligent whites were actually less likely to support remedial policies for racial inequality. For example, about 27 percent of the least intelligent whites supported school busing programs, compared with 23 percent of the most intelligent whites.
"The principle-policy paradox is much more pronounced among high-ability whites than among low-ability whites," said Wodtke, who is also affiliated with the Population Studies Center at the U-M Institute for Social Research. "There's a disconnect between the attitudes intelligent whites support in principle and their attitudes toward policies designed to realize racial equality in practice.

"Intelligent whites give more enlightened responses than less intelligent whites to questions about their attitudes, but their responses to questions about actual policies aimed at redressing racial discrimination are far less enlightened. For example, although nearly all whites with advanced cognitive abilities say that 'whites have no right to segregate their neighborhoods,' nearly half of this group remains content to allow prejudicial real estate practices to continue unencumbered by open housing laws."

According to Wodtke, the broader implication of this study is that racism and prejudice don't simply come about as a result of low mental capacities or deficiencies in socialization. Rather, they result from the need of dominant groups to legitimize and protect their privileged social position within an intergroup conflict over resources.

"More intelligent members of the dominant group are just better at legitimizing and protecting their privileged position than less intelligent members," he said. "In modern America, where blacks are mobilized to challenge racial inequality, this means that intelligent whites say—and may in fact truly believe—all the right things about racial equality in principle, but they just don't actually do anything that would eliminate the privileges to which they have become accustomed.

"In many cases, they have become so accustomed to these privileges that they become 'invisible,' and any effort to point these privileges out or to eliminate them strikes intelligent whites as a grave injustice."



You use the Huffingtonpost, I use edu sites.

Source: http://www.ns.umich.edu/new/releases/21622-smart-enough-to-know-better-intelligence-is-not-a-remedy-for-racism

Aviator
12-08-2014, 08:53 AM
Someone ban this troll. He's a sockpuppet for sure.

Belial
12-08-2014, 08:56 AM
Nice try



You use the huffingtonpost, I use edu sites.

Source: http://www.ns.umich.edu/new/releases/21622-smart-enough-to-know-better-intelligence-is-not-a-remedy-for-racism

Intelligent whites are only likely to be afraid of blacks due to inhibition and (even lower) low testosterone so they find alternate methods to appease them, while the typical white racist will just get to his computer and write an endless number of uninteligible nigger rants until amounting to over twenty thousand posts, like the example of my signature.

Intelligent, high testo whites like me aren't racist.

Aviator
12-08-2014, 08:59 AM
Intelligent whites are only likely to be afraid of blacks due to inhibition and (even lower) low testosterone so they find alternate methods to appease them, while the typical white racist will just get to his computer and write an endless number of uninteligible nigger rants until amounting to over twenty thousand posts, like the example of my signature.

Intelligent, high testo whites like me aren't racist.

You're full of it. You've already proven that you're fake, by posting a picture that wasn't yours, which a mod called you out on.

Intelligent, high testosterone Whites become pilots like me, they don't make sockpuppet accounts to troll online forums like you.

Belial
12-08-2014, 09:00 AM
You're full of it. You've already proven that you're fake, by posting a picture that wasn't yours, which a mod called you out on.

Intelligent, high testosterone Whites become pilots like me, they don't make sockpuppet accounts to troll online forums like you.

Are you out of your mind? Being a pilot is in the same intellectual level as driving a car. You're not better than a taxi driver.

Stop trolling my thread.

Heart of Oak
12-08-2014, 09:01 AM
No, I am Frankophobic, I don't know any French or nor do I want too, Of coarse on my travels I have come into contact with them, however I do not like them as a people, So dose this make me a Rasist...?
Also I dislike immigrants dose this make me a Rasist...?

Aviator
12-08-2014, 09:03 AM
Are you out of your mind? Being a pilot is in the same intellectual level as driving a car. You're not better than a taxi driver.

Stop trolling my thread.

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rhiannon
12-08-2014, 09:21 AM
Are you out of your mind? Being a pilot is in the same intellectual level as driving a car. You're not better than a taxi driver.


My husband, an airline pilot, would beg to differ with you I'm afraid. :picard1:

Oh, and I'd venture to say he's got pretty high testosterone in his own right given his fertility and huge ego LOL. High self-esteem as well. Pilots kinda gotta have all that because if they don't, they're gonna wind up kissing their own asses (not to mention their passengers') goodbye when those cumulus clouds they thought were clouds turns out to be cumulus granite:laugh:

If you didn't get the joke, I'm not gonna bother explaining it. Pretty sure BlondeF22 will get it for you, though :)

Smaug
12-08-2014, 09:29 AM
Are you out of your mind? Being a pilot is in the same intellectual level as driving a car. You're not better than a taxi driver.

Stop trolling my thread.

You can't be serious.

Trun
12-08-2014, 09:31 AM
Intelligent whites are only likely to be afraid of blacks due to inhibition and (even lower) low testosterone

Where are the evidence that blacks have higher testosterone than whites?

Heart of Oak
12-08-2014, 10:30 AM
Not sure about testosterone...
However I do know that it was proven in court that Blacks have smaller brains and use less of it than White people...

Methmatician
12-08-2014, 10:39 AM
Nice try
This probably explains why institutional racism still exists in some forms. Those at the top are good at concealing their prejudice.

Aviator
12-08-2014, 05:08 PM
Not sure about testosterone...
However I do know that it was proven in court that Blacks have smaller brains and use less of it than White people...

You really dislike flyboys, huh? Did someone stop you from getting your wings?


This probably explains why institutional racism still exists in some forms. Those at the top are good at concealing their prejudice.

Maybe so. I doubt it though, in most cases people are still more interested in what's going to bring them more money/better publicity.

Gustave H
12-08-2014, 05:16 PM
Someone ban this troll.

I'm working on it.

shimmy
12-08-2014, 05:25 PM
Are you out of your mind? Being a pilot is in the same intellectual level as driving a car. You're not better than a taxi driver.

Stop trolling my thread.

Well I'm a pilot as well and I can tell you it's not like a taxi :D maybe in a very smooth day it's like a big bus in 3D, but try any kind of problem or emergency and you better have all your braincells and nervous system well fit for the task.

About the initial question, I don't think it's very intelligent to be a racist. I think that everything that descriminates human rights is wrong.

But I understand that there are diferent aptitudes that can be more usual on some races or genders.
Don't you agree black people are much more athletic?
Japs and Chinese are highly intelligent.
Man are usually better at abstract visualization, and women are usually better at multitasking.
Ofcoruse these are steriotypes, and to every rule there are plenty of exceptions.

So, we're all different but descrimination is wrong and so racism is wrong IMO.

JoeyGee8688
12-08-2014, 05:29 PM
"High testosterone intelligent racist whites" live their lives and, due to their high intelligence, do not immediately reveal their racism to everyone they meet.

KawaiiKawaii
12-08-2014, 05:32 PM
For the last time (and I'm fucking tired of repeating it), testosterone levels are about the same in every race.

Beit El
12-08-2014, 05:40 PM
Where are the evidence that blacks have higher testosterone than whites?

There isn't any. He was a sock-puppet troll and he's banned now.

Sideritis
12-08-2014, 05:40 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html

Discuss dogies. With additional evidence such as my own signature I think it's true.

We should definitely see the study and its execution very carefully. Nevertheless as I see is very complicated since racism could be also due to a kind of high self-esteem, egocentric behaviors which are not always associated with stupidity. Despite that in my modest perception I can agree with the results, since this kind of ideologies generally thrive from the limitation of our brain.

Gustave H
12-08-2014, 05:42 PM
Game over, you anti-White motherfucker.

Felix Volkbein
12-08-2014, 05:44 PM
Game over, you anti-White motherfucker.

Whose sock puppet was it?

Gustave H
12-08-2014, 05:46 PM
Whose sock puppet was it?

Not sure. Ask Loki.

Wenzel
12-08-2014, 05:48 PM
I don't think this is true, at least speaking for racism as a whole. This impression only exists because the loudest and most expressive racists are mostly the dumb ones and those of lower socio economic backgrounds who either have nothing to lose or are not smart enough to realize the consequences of their actions, this puts the spot light on them, and therefore they get the definition of a true "racist". While on the hand those who are more intelligent, educated and well off usually keep their racism to themselves or to a small circle, since they have too much to lose career or status wise in the current political climate. Only rarely do some brave scientists come out boldly with their findings that does not fit in with the current ideology and obviously it is usually career suicide. Yet I see this scientific racism as the only true racism and the one of any value. The problem is it is only rarely explored, instead we are forced to hear racism reduced to skin color and trivial nonsense as to how one talks, and the way they dress, etc.

Beit El
12-08-2014, 05:54 PM
Whose sock puppet was it?

I personally think it was 'The Lord, I am'. He had a similar profile and posting style. Not certain though.

JoeyGee8688
12-08-2014, 07:05 PM
I personally think it was 'The Lord, I am'. He had a similar profile and posting style. Not certain though.

Was he that fat, gay north African? That guy was obnoxious.

Beit El
12-08-2014, 07:09 PM
Was he that fat, gay north African? That guy was obnoxious.

He was the bisexual with the Danish father and a North-African mother. He was obnoxious yes.

XUTERO
12-08-2014, 07:17 PM
Intelligent whites are only likely to be afraid of blacks due to inhibition and (even lower) low testosterone so they find alternate methods to appease them, while the typical white racist will just get to his computer and write an endless number of uninteligible nigger rants until amounting to over twenty thousand posts, like the example of my signature.

Intelligent, high testo whites like me aren't racist.

No only brainwashed fools think that "preserving his own kind" = "stupidity".
Besides, someone who supports LGBT is someone stupid enough to support his personal genocide, as far as I know, homosexuals cannot interbreed.

Very strange how they don't reproduce but still their numbers keep rising...
Go get yourself a woman, be a man!

Desaix DeBurgh
12-08-2014, 08:28 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html

Discuss dogies. With additional evidence such as my own signature I think it's true.

That is bullshit for so many reasons. First of all you think because you are liberal you are smarter ? Think again because you if were smart you would know that in order to prove the truth of your assertion one of things you would have had to do was to do syntopical research comparing different books, periodicals, and websites on the subject-- instead you just used one biased liberal rag of a newspaper. You are an idiot for thinking that proves your point. Second of all Libertarians actually have higher IQs than liberals. For instance if you ask Mensa members what their political orientation is the majority would be Libertarian. Also, if you did a poll at the nerd website slashdot.org, on their political orientation, most would say Libertarian. Your article is stupid for only mentioning the false dichotomy of liberal and conservative without mentioning libertarianism. Now most Libertarians might not be racist (at least they don't admit to it) but there are certainly more racist libertarians than liberals and libertarianism supports racist policies in the private sector, unlike liberals, but not the government sector (but the government sector is so small in libertarianism that this doesn't mean much). For instance here is a website of someone who was an openly racist libertarian who also was a member of Mensa(meaning he had a high IQ) he is dead now though (there are other racists in Mensa too) :

http://www.thebirdman.org

Also, my IQ is in the 120s and I am a racist libertarian. Here is some proof : I took one of the rare valid IQ tests on the internet (I've had it tested in real life too); the test was made by a real psychometrician:

http://www.cogn-iq.org/?page_id=734

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/naudiz/IQrange_zpsd12c97c5.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/naudiz/media/IQrange_zpsd12c97c5.jpg.html)

Also, I can alot of other racists that don't have low IQs both currently and historically for instance Sam Francis , Jared Taylor, Charles Darwin, Arthur Schopenhauer etc.. etc.. as far as Charles Darwin and schopenhauer you might say that if they were alive today that he wouldn't be racist but that is rubbish since he was a natural scientist rather than a sociologist he would likely still be racist but might not admit to it if he were alive today. Anti-racist nonsense mostly comes from the social sciences (thanks to the jews such as the frankfurt school and boasian anthropologists) which are jokes compared to natural science due to confirmation bias and containing a significant amount of fiction in their writings. As far as Schopenhauer I can't prove that he would be racist today but I believe he would be but maybe wouldn't admit to it.

Are there some dumb racists ? Yes but are all are most racist dumb ? No, it is just that dumb people are more likely to be open about it. For instance, I'm open about it on the internet but not in real life (except to a few close friends). When I'm out in public I never do anything or say anything that might make other people think I am racist.

Heart of Oak
12-09-2014, 09:38 AM
Belial is a sock puppeting fool, that from I have heared is Banned due to his foolish antic's, still he has gone, hopefully or some time as I will not miss him in one little bit..