Average Canarian phenotypes

[Isleño]

Please take a moment to watch this music video filmed in the Canary Islands that features many average Canarian phenotypes. All of the people in the video are Canarian except for the Cuban mulata in the red shirt that is singing. These are real, average everyday Canarian phenotypes.

What are some other populations that you think we resemble. You can give multiple answers if you like.

Thanks for your comments.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTUSW7JZbCk

[Tooting Carmen]

With all due respect, many look more like White/off-White Cubans and Puerto Ricans than what I'd consider to be mainstream Spaniards.

[Tooting Carmen]

I actually made a thread about Unis in the Canary Islands - they don't look as exotic as the people in the music video: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?146550-State-the-main-phenotypes-among-university-staff-and-students-from-Tenerife-Canary-Islands

[Isleño]

With all due respect, many look more like White/off-White Cubans and Puerto Ricans than what I'd consider to be mainstream Spaniards.

Thanks for the comment. I'm just fishing for opinions.

[Isleño]

With all due respect, many look more like White/off-White Cubans and Puerto Ricans than what I'd consider to be mainstream Spaniards.

Well this makes sense since many Cubans and Puerto Ricans descend from us. There was tremendous Canarian immigration to Cuba and Puerto Rico.

[Tooting Carmen]

Well this makes sense since many Cubans and Puerto Ricans descend from us. There was tremendous Canarian immigration to Cuba and Puerto Rico.

But there also seems to be a strong Berberid element here that I seldom if ever see in mainland Iberians, which often gives Canarians a pseudo-Caribbean vibe anyway.

[Isleño]

But there also seems to be a strong Berberid element here that I seldom if ever see in mainland Iberians, which often gives Canarians a pseudo-Caribbean vibe anyway.

Well the Berber is higher in Canarians and more frequent than in Iberians. There is some in Iberians, but as you can see in the examples I posted from the Pino-Yanes 2011 study, it's not as frequent and as much.

If you look at the averages per island, they are

88% Euro/12% NA for Gran Canaria,

86% Euro/14% NA for Tenerife,

84% Euro/ 16% NA for Lanzarote,

81% Euro/19% NA for El Hierro,

79% Euro/ 21% NA for Fuerteventura,

79% Euro/ 21% NA for La Palma and

58% Euro/ 42% NA for La Gomera.

Iberians usually range from 98% Euro/ 2% NA to 91% Euro/ 9% NA from what I've seen in studies, but not all are like that and there are many without NA ancestry. There are even Canarians without NA ancestry, but they are much fewer in number than in Iberia.

I'm actually very European as I'm 90 European/ 10% NA. So I'm on the lower side and more like the ones in your university pictures that are more like Iberians. The gentlemen in the rural farmer video I posted are more like the La Gomera average and are very Guanche admixed. So we range in phenotype as we are an admixed population.

[Guapo]

I thought this was a thread about yellow birds

[Mortimer]

I really dont know bro maybe sicilians

[Isleño]

I really dont know bro maybe sicilians

Ok, thanks for the comment :)

[Isleño]

I thought this was a thread about yellow birds

Of course, didn't you see the Canary bird in my avatar :lol:

Darker feathers, lighter feathers, feathers with olive tones lol

[Smeagol]

Nothing surprising, they just look Spanish + Berber and North African CM influences.

[Bradshaw]

OMG they look like the puerto ricans I see on a day to day basis.

[Isleño]

Nothing surprising, they just look Spanish + Berber and North African CM influences.Ok, thanks for the comment. Deidara, what are some other populations you think we resemble?

[Isleño]

OMG they look like the puerto ricans I see on a day to day basis.

Well, many Puerto Ricans descend from us. A large migration of Canarians into the Caribbean took place, and Puerto Rico was one of the main destinations. Cuba was the main destination back then though.

[Smeagol]

Ok, thanks for the comment. Deidara, what are some other populations you think we resemble?

I'm not sure, it's a unique mixture, but Spanish is obviously dominant still.

[Tooting Carmen]

Here are some Cypriots for comparative purposes. Does anyone see any similarity between them and Canarians? http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?151260-State-the-main-phenotypes-among-university-staff-and-students-from-Cyprus

[Sikeliot]

They do not look like Sicilians -- there is a strong North African influence in the Canarians, and almost nothing West Asian.

[Isleño]

I'm not sure, it's a unique mixture, but Spanish is obviously dominant still.

Thanks for the comment. It's very true, we are a unique people that there are not many populations to compare us to.

[Isleño]

They do not look like Sicilians -- there is a strong North African influence in the Canarians, and almost nothing West Asian.

Oh sorry, my mistake. You said they do not look like Sicilians, I read your comment wrong. So can you give me a couple of populations that you think we resemble most?

[Sikeliot]

Oh sorry, my mistake. You said they do not look like Sicilians, I read your comment wrong. So can you give me a couple of populations that you think we resemble most?

Iberians, North Africans (Caucasoid ones), and Latin American descendants.

[chestbrah]

This makes me immediately want to visit the Canary Islands because it just reminds me so much of Puerto Rico

[Leo Iscariot]

Iberian + North African. They look like Cubans and Puerto Ricans, imo.

[Isleño]

Iberian + North African. They look like Cubans and Puerto Ricans, imo.Well it's no surprise, since you guys descend from us. So far, me, you and Chestbrah have Canarian ancestry on this thread, I think there are a couple more that have some here. Canary Islands, Cuba and Puerto Rico are connected by blood.

[Isleño]

Iberians, North Africans (Caucasoid ones), and Latin American descendants.

There doesn't seem to be a population in the old world that is most similar to Canarians. The closest I can think of would be Iberians who scored the highest North African and I think the highest I've seen was 9% in western Iberia, but that's not typical for all of Iberia. So there really isn't a population that's very similar to us besides select Iberians. The only other population I can think of that is predominantly European but with some North African admixture would be Sicilians and Maltese, but their North African is very small, only a couple percent, nothing comparable. You agree?

[Sikeliot]

Sicilians have a lot of West Asian compared to Canarians but some parts of Sicily do score higher North African than others.

[Isleño]

Sicilians have a lot of West Asian compared to Canarians but some parts of Sicily do score higher North African than others.

Canarians are basically Iberians with added North African admixture. So our West Asian score is similar to Iberians. We don't have much West Asian. The North African percentages in Sicily are no where near large enough to compare to any Canarian. They are usually just a couple percent. The closest thing I've seen to Canarians would be the atypical select Iberians in western Iberia who can score as high as 9% North African. Of course that's not typical for all of Iberia, but there are a few select Iberians that do score that high. A select Iberian that did score 91% Euro, 9% NA would be just like me, I score 90% Euro, 10% NA, but they would not be like other Canarians that score higher NA like some that score 15% or 20%.

So I think Canarians are a unique population, we are basically just Iberians with extra North African admixture.

[FilhoV]

Well the Berber is higher in Canarians and more frequent than in Iberians. There is some in Iberians, but as you can see in the examples I posted from the Pino-Yanes 2011 study, it's not as frequent and as much.

If you look at the averages per island, they are

88% Euro/12% NA for Gran Canaria,

86% Euro/14% NA for Tenerife,

84% Euro/ 16% NA for Lanzarote,

81% Euro/19% NA for El Hierro,

79% Euro/ 21% NA for Fuerteventura,

79% Euro/ 21% NA for La Palma and

58% Euro/ 42% NA for La Gomera.

Iberians usually range from 98% Euro/ 2% NA to 91% Euro/ 9% NA from what I've seen in studies, but not all are like that and there are many without NA ancestry. There are even Canarians without NA ancestry, but they are much fewer in number than in Iberia.

I'm actually very European as I'm 90 European/ 10% NA. So I'm on the lower side and more like the ones in your university pictures that are more like Iberians. The gentlemen in the rural farmer video I posted are more like the La Gomera average and are very Guanche admixed. So we range in phenotype as we are an admixed population.



Is that AncestryDNA? If so you are the same as me on ancestry I'm 90 euro and 10% NA

[Hamilcar]

None look north african to me.

Most look like regular iberians and some individuals look like mixed carribeans/latinos. Also after checking some samples and papers, some canarians tend to have more SSA ancestry than guanche ancestry because of the slave trade especially the samples from La Gomera.

[El_Jibaro]

Well it's no surprise, since you guys descend from us. So far, me, you and Chestbrah have Canarian ancestry on this thread, I think there are a couple more that have some here. Canary Islands, Cuba and Puerto Rico are connected by blood.

Me too ;).

[Thetruth]

Please take a moment to watch this music video filmed in the Canary Islands that features many average Canarian phenotypes. All of the people in the video are Canarian except for the Cuban mulata in the red shirt that is singing. These are real, average everyday Canarian phenotypes.

What are some other populations that you think we resemble. You can give multiple answers if you like.

Thanks for your comments.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTUSW7JZbCk

if that's what Canarian islanders look like, then it looks like the long lost 4th Hispanic Caribbean island

[Kenshiro]

Tropical vibes, i love this

[LeoKaiser]

Yeah, iberian with a bit more NA influence

[Abaddon]

Yeah, iberian with a bit more NA influence

They look nothing like mainland iberians, layman.

[LeoKaiser]

They look nothing like mainland iberians, layman.

Some of them do, some of them don't, the higher NA influence makes a difference

[Abaddon]

Some of them do, some of them don't, the higher NA influence makes a difference

None of them do and im more familiarized with mainland iberian phenotypes, while you dont even consider them to be europeans.

[LeoKaiser]

None of them do and im more familiarized with mainland iberian phenotypes, while you dont even consider them to be europeans.

lol,Interesting assumption, I consider them southern European, but you do you

[Tooting Carmen]

They look nothing like mainland iberians, layman.

Don't exaggerate.