View Full Version : K=6 Global Admixture Analysis on Race
Isleņo
12-12-2014, 07:21 AM
The following is a color coded K=6 ADMIXTURE run for Caucasoid (blue), Mongoloid (yellow), Negroid (orange), Australoid (purple), Capoid (red) and Americoid (green).
Caucasoid
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ICOU272pPek/UsKA4CfOvrI/AAAAAAAAAVI/wUgAxJIDbPM/s1600/Lazaridis2014_example_caucasoid.png
Negroid
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AkWc4Ocdaw0/UsKA6WExrQI/AAAAAAAAAVY/4ziERslXYrE/s1600/Lazaridis2014_example_negroid.png
Mongoloid
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OphZC7-_rXc/UsKA5P3CInI/AAAAAAAAAVQ/hUOO2LVzW8g/s1600/Lazaridis2014_example_mongoloid.png
Australoid
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lP3x8nHOXaY/UsKA3aMbi-I/AAAAAAAAAVA/6Rf7VXmO1ko/s1600/Lazaridis2014_example_australoid.png
Capoid
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ec41Dj_sMWw/UsKA27Mw0RI/AAAAAAAAAU4/57C9SHZpkMY/s1600/Lazaridis2014_example_capoid.png
Americoid
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-voojA_WKyW8/UsKA18DZ37I/AAAAAAAAAUw/3UMRvoXV7D8/s1600/Lazaridis2014_example_americoid.png
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Oa3bBts6e3M/Ur6VH_81tpI/AAAAAAAAAUI/JGoPs1UmWyA/s669/Lazaridis2014_EDF3_K6.png
This K=6 is based on the large global admixture analysis in the most recent study by Lazaridis et al. (2013/2014 update)
Mortimer
12-12-2014, 07:24 AM
Papuans are more australoid then aboriginals, Russians are the least caucasoid euro ethnicity
Isleņo
12-12-2014, 07:29 AM
Papuans are more australoid then aboriginals, Russians are the least caucasoid euro ethnicity
Yes, Papuans are pure Australoid. And yes, Russians are the least Caucasoid along with Finns and Moldovians for the Europeans. And look at the Native Americans of the US, they are mestizos. Also look at black Americans (AA), they are very mixed race.
Isleņo
12-12-2014, 07:33 AM
Also, among the Caucasoids, the Indians are least pure while the Europeans are the most pure.
Isleņo
12-12-2014, 07:39 AM
Bump
Yuffayur
12-22-2014, 09:33 PM
In this paper from Henn et al 2012, All NorthAfricans have the same amount of Africans, the fewer are Tunisians then Northern Moroccans (Rabat) then Egypt, the higher are Southern Moroccans (Agadir). I'm suprised how they percentage changed in the two studies.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yaSw-OSc9Vw/Tw9lXL1KBsI/AAAAAAAAEa8/ci33CRnJQ1c/s1600/henn2012_north_africa.png
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/7307/k36fig3.png
ButlerKing
01-31-2017, 07:51 PM
The following is a color coded K=6 ADMIXTURE run for Caucasoid (blue), Mongoloid (yellow), Negroid (orange), Australoid (purple), Capoid (red) and Americoid (green).
Capoid
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ec41Dj_sMWw/UsKA27Mw0RI/AAAAAAAAAU4/57C9SHZpkMY/s1600/Lazaridis2014_example_capoid.png
You're kidding me right ? Capoid is also negroid race.
Peterski
01-31-2017, 07:57 PM
You're kidding me right ? Capoid is also negroid race.
Not really, Capoids are much older than Congoids (= Negroids):
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?200806-Chronology-of-divergence-of-human-races&p=4187813&viewfull=1#post4187813
I also think that it is more reasonable to distinguish 9 races, not 6.
Harkonnen
01-31-2017, 08:03 PM
I think it was exactly this run which was used as a example of the crap admixture can produce in a recent paper critisizing ADMIXTURE-Program: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?195608-A-tutorial-on-how-to-(not)-to-over-interpret-STRUCTURE-ADMIXTURE-plots
Harkonnen
01-31-2017, 08:05 PM
You're kidding me right ? Capoid is also negroid race.
In the future there will be no Indian race. They will be put into ovens and they will burn for many months producing a horrible stink.
Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
01-31-2017, 08:12 PM
Ive seen african americans who look "capoid" before so I dont know how verifiable capoid is. I had a professor at college who looked capoid.
Peterski
01-31-2017, 08:14 PM
Capoids are a separate race. The same refers to Pygmies. Modeling Pygmies as a mixture of Negroid + Capoid makes no sense, because Pygmies are not such a mixture - they are a very ancient population that just happens to be genetically intermediate between Capods and Negroids.
ButlerKing
01-31-2017, 08:14 PM
Not really, Capoids are much older than Congoids (= Negroids):
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?200806-Chronology-of-divergence-of-human-races&p=4187813&viewfull=1#post4187813
I also think that it is more reasonable to distinguish 9 races, not 6.
Capoids come from Black Africa. How can you claim they are not negroid, they are basically just skinny, slant eye negroids but still a negroid.
Peterski
01-31-2017, 08:15 PM
Capoids come from Black Africa. How can you claim they are not negroid
Capoids are indigenous to South Africa. Negroids are indigenous to West-Central Africa.
Negroids later expanded to South Africa (see the Bantu migrations).
they are basically just skinny, slant eye negroids but still a negroid.
Nope. And African Pygmies are also not "small negroids", but a separate racial grouping.
Enflamme
01-31-2017, 08:17 PM
Sardinian woman (Pure Med)? >>>
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ICOU272pPek/UsKA4CfOvrI/AAAAAAAAAVI/wUgAxJIDbPM/s1600/Lazaridis2014_example_caucasoid.png
Peterski
01-31-2017, 08:20 PM
they are basically just skinny, slant eye negroids but still a negroid.
It's like saying that the Japanese are basically just skinny, slant eye Caucasoids.
Harkonnen
01-31-2017, 08:20 PM
Capoids come from Black Africa. How can you claim they are not negroid, they are basically just skinny, slant eye negroids but still a negroid.
Do you know what is the stinkiest of all races?
ButlerKing
01-31-2017, 08:22 PM
Capoids are indigenous to South Africa. Negroids are indigenous to Central Africa.
Negroids later expanded to South Africa (see the Bantu migrations).
They are still part of the Black race. Other than the epicanthic eyefold and lighter skinned they are still as black as negroid race.
http://assets.survivalinternational.org/pictures/839/bots-bush-ld-1010_screen.jpg
http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/8d8f0ae499984dc2b8ba412802f995b7/naro-bushman-san-eating-wild-melon-central-kalahari-botswana-be2pg9.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Namibian_Bushmen_Girls.JPG/300px-Namibian_Bushmen_Girls.JPG
ButlerKing
01-31-2017, 08:23 PM
It's like saying that the Japanese are basically just skinny, slant eye Caucasoids.
Japanese people look little to no different to the Koreans/Chinese/Mongolian/Vietnamese. They are classified as East Asian Mongoloid races.
Harkonnen
01-31-2017, 08:24 PM
It's like saying that the Japanese are basically just skinny, slant eye Caucasoids.
Caucasoid is not a real race; or at least not a race I'm part of. I've nothing to do with stinky Arabs and Indians.
You could say Japanese are basically slant eyed North Eurasians (Cro Magnons)
Peterski
01-31-2017, 08:27 PM
They are still part of the Black race.
There is no such thing as "black race".
Japanese people look little to no different to the Koreans/Chinese/Mongolian/Vietnamese.
Japanese people are white-skinned.
Harkonnen
01-31-2017, 08:27 PM
Japanese people look little to no different to the Koreans/Chinese/Mongolian/Vietnamese. They are classified as East Asian Mongoloid races.
I wish to join the Mongoloid Army when we go burn the Indians and Arabs.
ButlerKing
01-31-2017, 08:29 PM
Caucasoid is not a real race; or at least not a race I'm part of. I've nothing to do with stinky Arabs and Indians.
You could say Japanese are basically slant eyed North Eurasians (Cro Magnons)
Caucasoid are people with a common skeletal structure and physical charateristics. Europe, Middle east, South Asian all have Caucasoid bone structures.
Japanese are East Asian Mongoloid Sinodants
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Mongoloid_Australoid_Negrito_Asia_Distribution_of_ Asian_peoples_Sinodont_Sundadont.GIF/800px-Mongoloid_Australoid_Negrito_Asia_Distribution_of_ Asian_peoples_Sinodont_Sundadont.GIF
ButlerKing
01-31-2017, 08:33 PM
There is no such thing as "black race".
Japanese people are white-skinned.
So are Koreans, most North Chinese are also white skinned. Even some Vietnamese have very white skin.
I find Koreans way more lighter skinned than Japanese
http://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/i/8191440611783/2015/1/14406119179159/86-percent-of-South-Korean-students-suffer-from-schoolwork-stress.jpg
https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1LylGKXXXXXa5XpXXq6xXFXXXX/-New-autumn-winter-Korean-children-girls-sweater-College-style-pullover-gril-sweater-navy-collar-Kawaii.jpg
Harkonnen
01-31-2017, 08:49 PM
Caucasoid are people with a common skeletal structure and physical charateristics. Europe, Middle east, South Asian all have Caucasoid bone structures.
Japanese are East Asian Mongoloid Sinodants
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Mongoloid_Australoid_Negrito_Asia_Distribution_of_ Asian_peoples_Sinodont_Sundadont.GIF/800px-Mongoloid_Australoid_Negrito_Asia_Distribution_of_ Asian_peoples_Sinodont_Sundadont.GIF
I recently discovered I'm 30% Mongoloid: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?200837-A-working-model-of-the-deep-relationships-of-diverse-modern-human-genetic-lineages-outside-of-Africa
While we did not carefully model present-day Europeans in our main admixture graph, we did build an extended graph with French added (25 individuals). A good fit was obtained with four ancestry components, related to western (K14), northern (near the base of the MA1 lineage), and eastern (specified as the same source as for MA1) Eurasians, plus Basal Eurasian (specified without Neanderthal introgression (Lazaridis et al., 2016)). The inferred proportions were 27.7%, 34.9%, 23.2%, and 14.2%, respectively, with essentially no change in the list of residuals
So French are:
27.7% Kostenki (West Eurasian)
34.9% MA1 (North Eurasian)
23.2% Eastern Eurasian
14.2% Basal Eurasian
Which means that in Finns the Mongoloid admixture is likely over 30%. This is a good thing: for when the Race War starts I will be better accepted when I volunteer in the Mongol Army AND WE WILL EXTERMINATE THE BROWN RACES
Harkonnen
01-31-2017, 08:51 PM
Caucasoid are people with a common skeletal structure and physical charateristics. Europe, Middle east, South Asian all have Caucasoid bone structures.
Japanese are East Asian Mongoloid Sinodants
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/Mongoloid_Australoid_Negrito_Asia_Distribution_of_ Asian_peoples_Sinodont_Sundadont.GIF/800px-Mongoloid_Australoid_Negrito_Asia_Distribution_of_ Asian_peoples_Sinodont_Sundadont.GIF
My bone structure is not similar to Middle Eastern at all.
ButlerKing
01-31-2017, 08:55 PM
My bone structure is not similar to Middle Eastern at all.
Bone structure is the same only skin color are different.
http://t11.deviantart.net/NlvFz7NxGYNZI95u3p-ezp9_-7k=/fit-in/700x350/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre09/301c/th/pre/i/2012/196/c/1/caucasoid_skull_by_dizneykhan-d57ccow.jpg
Peterski
02-03-2017, 04:58 PM
San Bushman HGDP00991 in MDLP K23b calculator:
GEDmatch kit number - Z611106
Population
Amerindian -
Ancestral_Altaic -
South_Central_Asian -
Arctic -
South_Indian -
Australoid -
Austronesian -
Caucasian -
Archaic_Human 0.43
East_African -
East_Siberian -
European_Early_Farmers -
Khoisan 83.41
Melano_Polynesian -
Archaic_African 15.89
Near_East -
North_African -
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy -
South_East_Asian -
Subsaharian 0.08
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers 0.10
Negroids like Yoruba score close to 100% Subsaharian.
Isleņo
07-07-2017, 05:07 PM
Ive seen african americans who look "capoid" before so I dont know how verifiable capoid is. I had a professor at college who looked capoid.
Well Negroid and Capoid are both Sub-Saharan Africans and are both in the Sub-Saharan cluster. Capoid was traditionally seen as a sub-race of the Negroid race, but Coon argued that due to differences in hair growth patterns and cheekbones, that Capoid should be their own race and Negroids should just be called Congoids. But many just view them both as Negroid.
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