Ireland Set to recognize Palestinian State

[Fear Fiain]

"Dublin- The Irish Government will accept a motion to be proposed by the opposition on Tuesday calling on parliament to recognize "Palestine" as a state, echoing similar recent symbolic decisions in other European Union countries.

While most developing countries recognize "Palestine" as a state, most Western European countries do not, supporting the Israeli and US position that an independent Palestinian state should emerge from negotiations with Israel.

European countries have grown frustrated with Israel, which since the collapse of the latest US-sponsored talks in April has pressed on with building settlements in territory the Palestinians want for their state.

The government's decision comes after Sweden became the biggest Western European country to recognize "Palestine," and parliaments in Spain, Britain and France held votes in which they backed non-binding resolutions in favor of recognition.

It also follows the passing of a motion in Ireland's upper house in October calling on the government to formally recognize "Palestine."

Members of parliament in the lower house are due to discuss the motion proposed by the opposition Sinn Fein party later on Tuesday and on Wednesday. A government spokesman said it will not oppose the bill, meaning MPs will not be required to vote.

The motion calls on the government to "officially recognize the State of 'Palestine,' on the basis of the 1967 borders with East Jerusalem as the capital, as established in UN resolutions, as a further positive contribution to securing a negotiated two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict." It also recognizes that "continued Israeli settlement construction and extension activities in the West Bank, is illegal and severely threatening the establishment of a viable Palestinian state."

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Irish-government-to-accept-motion-to-recognize-Palestinian-state-384171


SO PROUD OF MY PEOPLE RIGHT NOW. SINN FEIN ABU!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abpVD1-v1VQ

[Fear Fiain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhTWxHyaR_E

[Tyler Danann]

I wonder if there will be any backlash against the Irish?

[Anglojew]

Ireland is, along with Norway and Spain, one of the most anti-Israel nations in Europe.

The IRA actually trained the PLO in bomb-making.

http://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/Friendship-Pins/Israel/Flag-Pins-Israel-Northern-Ireland.jpg

[StonyArabia]

I wonder if there will be any backlash against the Irish?

I don't think so many nations are recognizing Palestine, this might lead to the two state solution.

[Tyler Danann]

It could, I guess we'll have to see how it plays out.

[Grace O'Malley]

I wonder if there will be any backlash against the Irish?

Where would the backlash come from? It is just a matter of time before other nations do the same.

[Anglojew]

Israel and Ireland have terrible relations. It won't effect anything.

[Grace O'Malley]

Ireland is, along with Norway and Spain, one of the most anti-Israel nations in Europe.

The IRA actually trained the PLO in bomb-making.

http://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/Friendship-Pins/Israel/Flag-Pins-Israel-Northern-Ireland.jpg

The IRA is not the Irish state and Ireland is not anti-Israel they just don't agree with how the Palestinians are being treated and that's not the same thing as being anti-Israel.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

I don't think so many nations are recognizing Palestine, this might lead to the two state solution.

Honestly I am still holding out hope for the one state solution but this is good news none the less.

[Anglojew]

The IRA is not the Irish state and Ireland is not anti-Israel they just don't agree with how the Palestinians are being treated and that's not the same thing as being anti-Israel.

http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/niallodowd/Anti-Israeli-sentiment-is-at-fever-pitch-in-Ireland.html

http://markhumphrys.com/irish.left.israel.html

[SardiniaAtlantis]

The IRA is not the Irish state and Ireland is not anti-Israel they just don't agree with how the Palestinians are being treated and that's not the same thing as being anti-Israel.

Exactly if being pro-justice means being anti-israel to so many israeli supporters then that can't say much good about israel..

[Anglojew]

Exactly if being pro-justice means being anti-israel to so many israeli supporters then that can't say much good about israel..

The problem is the anti-Israel definition of justice almost always is a world without Israel.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

The problem is the anti-Israel definition of justice almost always is a world without Israel.

There are probably some out there who feel that way, but its important to differentiate between those people and people who are actually objective and logical.

[Grace O'Malley]

http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/niallodowd/Anti-Israeli-sentiment-is-at-fever-pitch-in-Ireland.html

http://markhumphrys.com/irish.left.israel.html

A small fraction of the community. Most Irish are pretty apathetic like in most countries. Irish Central is an American based publication and the other blog isn't Irish based. Believe me there is no large scale anti-Israeli feelings in Ireland. Ireland and Israel were playing against each other in football a few years ago and the Irish went in large numbers to Israel and had a great time and the Israelis went to Dublin and had a great time. A lot of things in the media are way over the top and are agenda driven and you should know this.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

A small fraction of the community. Most Irish are pretty apathetic like in most countries. Irish Central is an American based publication and the other blog isn't Irish based. Believe me there is no large scale anti-Israeli feelings in Ireland. Ireland and Israel were playing against each other in football a few years ago and the Irish went in large numbers to Israel and had a great time and the Israelis went to Dublin and had a great time. A lot of things in the media are way over the top and are agenda driven and you should know this.

He should know this esp knowing what kind of things Israeli and American media puts out regarding Israel and Palestine.

[Anglojew]

He should know this esp knowing what kind of things Israeli and American media puts out regarding Israel and Palestine.

The original post is from the Israeli media. Irony

[SardiniaAtlantis]

The original post is from the Israeli media. Irony

I am not saying all Israeli media is unbiased, in fact Haaretz is very balanced and objective for one, but it would be silly to pretend that the paradigm presented to western media through Israel is not a biased one.

[Anglojew]

I am not saying all Israeli media is unbiased, in fact Haaretz is very balanced and objective for one, but it would be silly to pretend that the paradigm presented to western media through Israel is not a biased one.

Haaretz is Marxist propaganda

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Haaretz is Marxist propaganda

Prove it.

[Anglojew]

Prove it.

It's socialist also owned by a Nazi's son


Until August 2006, the Schocken family owned 100% of the Haaretz Group, but then the German publisher M. DuMont Schauberg acquired 25 percent of the shares.[10] The deal was negotiated with the help of former Israeli ambassador to Germany, Avi Primor.[11] This deal was seen as controversial in Israel as DuMont Schauberg's father, Kurt Neven DuMont, was member of the German Nazi party, while his publishing house promoted Nazi ideology.[12]

[SardiniaAtlantis]

It's socialist also owned by a Nazi's son

Many Germans have been Nazi's son's. Have you any idea how many people were in the party? Anyhow you claimed it Marxist. Now you go back on that claim.

[Fear Fiain]

Ireland is, along with Norway and Spain, one of the most anti-Israel nations in Europe.

The IRA actually trained the PLO in bomb-making.

http://www.crossed-flag-pins.com/Friendship-Pins/Israel/Flag-Pins-Israel-Northern-Ireland.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcQB6ybJslo

[Fear Fiain]

The IRA is not the Irish state and Ireland is not anti-Israel they just don't agree with how the Palestinians are being treated and that's not the same thing as being anti-Israel.

though to be fair, Sinn Fein did introduce the motion.
But the leaders of other parties decided not to oppose it, so that implies near universal support.

[Anglojew]

Many Germans have been Nazi's son's. Have you any idea how many people were in the party? Anyhow you claimed it Marxist. Now you go back on that claim.

It has a Marxist agenda. Everyone knows that.

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=55

[King Claus]

The problem is the anti-Israel definition of justice almost always is a world without Israel.
That's not a problem. You can't just go around and ask people if you can have a piece of land that is not related to you or the people you're asking.

[Graham]

There are calls from within labour, to so in Britain also. The Palestine support here is quite prominent. Particularly amongst Celtic fans.

[Revolutionary]

Great news for Ireland. In spite of lobbying, more and more nations are waking up to the Zionist hypocrisy.

[Manifest Destiny]

The problem is the anti-Israel definition of justice almost always is a world without Israel.

Yes. It's typical leftist doublespeak; kinda like how "civil rights" and "anti-racism" usually just mean anti-white.

It's bizarre how leftists are obsessed with the safety and well-being of every Jew, everywhere, except for the ones in Israel.

[Graham]

Reminds me of the photo I took in Donegal, of the wee badge at my dads pals hoose.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/d8d1e9ce-14ca-4aef-ba51-80d85c41ebd4_zps80186056.jpg?t=1418501464

[Shepherd]

Yes. It's typical leftist doublespeak; kinda like how "civil rights" and "anti-racism" usually just mean anti-white.

It's bizarre how leftists are obsessed with the safety and well-being of every Jew, everywhere, except for the ones in Israel.

Reminiscent of the Jewish controlled political machines in Europe who are concerned about the well-being of Muslims so much they'll move them to Europe as "refugees". All the Muslims other than the ones in Palestine that is.

[Cyrus III]

Well all they're doing is inviting more muslims by doing this.

[Graham]

Well all they're doing is inviting more muslims by doing this.

There's not that much in ireland.

[Anglojew]

Yes. It's typical leftist doublespeak; kinda like how "civil rights" and "anti-racism" usually just mean anti-white.

It's bizarre how leftists are obsessed with the safety and well-being of every Jew, everywhere, except for the ones in Israel.

Absolutely. The left loves dead Jews but despises live ones. A perfect example of this is Ireland banning any mention of Israel at a Holocaust memorial event this week:

http://www.haaretz.com/mobile/1.631353?v=2761E52A8E1BC99AFEE5D192976B4255

(I purposely posted the Haaretz article)

[Anglojew]

Reminiscent of the Jewish controlled political machines in Europe who are concerned about the well-being of Muslims so much they'll move them to Europe as "refugees". All the Muslims other than the ones in Palestine that is.

Theres only 3000 Jews in Ireland. Jews have 0 influence there. You're simply wrong.

[Fear Fiain]

Theres only 3000 Jews in Ireland. Jews have 0 influence there. You're simply wrong.

Then how did lisbon get shoved down the people's throats? huh?
there shouldn't be any jews in Ireland...

because Brussels answers to the jew, Dublin now does by default. your argument is horse shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iob7REwAYH4

[Revolutionary]

Ireland and Palestine are both victims of British-Zionist imperialism, they should have closer relations.

[Beit El]

Why bother?

[TheBlondeSalad]

The Israeli foreign Ministry spokesman Emmanuel Nahshon expressed disappointment at the decision, accusing the Irish parliament of giving voice to "statements of hatred and anti-Semitism directed at Israel in a way which we have not heard before."
The Anti-Semitism card once again :rolleyes:

Kudos to Ireland for standing up and not being intimidated by this Israeli drivel that they churn up everytime someone is critical of their unconscionable polices of occupation.

[Linebacker]

Could be a tactical move to win a friend,in a future scenario,should that piece of land in Northern Ireland that belongs to the UK needs to rejoin its southern brother or become independent,the Palestinian state will support that in return.

[Catkin]

Could be a tactical move to win a friend,in a future scenario,should that piece of land in Northern Ireland that belongs to the UK needs to rejoin its southern brother or become independent,the Palestinian state will support that in return.

If the people of Northern Ireland wanted to go in the future, I can't see the UK government forcibly preventing them. Like with Scotland. They may not want NI to go, but they wouldn't stop it if the people wanted otherwise.

[Linebacker]

If the people of Northern Ireland wanted to go in the future, I can't see the UK government forcibly preventing them. Like with Scotland. They may not want NI to go, but they wouldn't stop it if the people wanted otherwise.

What about the IRA and the bombings,doesn't that ring a bell that they could actually want to go but somebody is censoring them?

How long before Scots start bombing as well?

[Catkin]

What about the IRA and the bombings,doesn't that ring a bell that they could actually want to go but somebody is censoring them?

How long before Scots start bombing as well?

:P That would be interesting.

The IRA don't currently represent the wishes of the majority of the population of NI. It would be wrong to overlook the wishes of the majority for an easy life and to give into bullying violent tactics.

[Graham]

Scots indy supporters are too nice, to do that. Most hardcore yessers are green-socialist types.