Medications may reduce violent crime risk in those with mental illness

[NatiaCutie]

This is a study from this year. I read it a few months back, and it greatly increased my faith in the use of chemical treatments as part of a strategy to prevent dangerous people from harming others. I have spoken about this before on the subject of re-education.

It was pioneered by Swedish specialist and it's been complimented by a lot of people, so you can be certain about its credentials. I post this for other people interested in the subject.

Medications may reduce violent crime risk in those with mental illness (http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-sn-medication-violent-crime-mental-illness-20140507-story.html)

You can read it all in the link.
These are the key paragraphs you can highlight:


Among the study's 82,647 subjects--all of them prescribed an antipsychotic or mood-stabilizing drug at some point between 2006 and 2009--routinely taking an antipsychotic drug was linked to a 29% reduced probability of being convicted of a drug-related charge, a 22% decline in convictions for any crime, and a 26% reduction in the likelihood of arrest on suspicion of having committed a violent crime. Subjects seeing these reductions took such new-generation antipsychotics as quetiapine (marketed at Seroquel), olanzapine (Zyprexa), risperidone (Risperdal) and aripiprazole (Abilify), or older antipsychotics such as haloperidol (Haldol) or chlorpromazine (Thorazine).

Mood-stabilizing drugs--medications ranging from lithium to neuroleptics such as valproic acid (Depakote), lamotrigine (Lamictal), carbamazepine (Tegretol) and oxcarbazepine (Trileptal)--were on average less powerfully linked to lower crime rates. Compared with periods during which they were unmedicated, when subjects were taking mood-stabilizing drugs, they were, on average, 32% less likely to be convicted of a drug-related crime, 17% less likely to be committed of any crime and 13% less likely to be arrested on suspicion of a violent crime.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

not surprised really, thats what they have been doing for years already for mentally Ill people

[NatiaCutie]

not surprised really, thats what they have been doing for years already for mentally Ill people

There is a good number of people who think that psychiatric treatment is somehow part of a '1984' agenda, like I've been repeatedly told here. This study shows that people with a natural tendency to engage in violent behaviour, can be helped and prevented from harming others when doctors are given enough funding and capabilities to correct the way their brain works.

I believe this should be increased in the future, and hopefully add more pathological behaviours, like homophobia or racism to the number of items that can be treated and make society more accepting and more peaceful for everybody.

[Vasconcelos]

pathological behaviours, like homophobia or racism to the number of items that can be treated and make society more accepting and more peaceful for everybody.

You were going fine until here. Basically what you're saying is that we should drug people who aren't liberals? lol

[NatiaCutie]

You were going fine until here. Basically what you're saying is that we should drug people who aren't liberals? lol

It's not about being liberal or conservative, it's about fighting hateful views and acts that can degenerate into violence and harm to people if left unchecked. People can believe in less regulations and less taxes (conservative view) or believe in the benefits of more State intervention (liberal).

I don't see how decreasing tension in society, and making sure everybody is made safe from mentally hampered people (psychopaths, cleptomaniacs, homophobes and mysoginists) has to do with voting for a conservative or liberal party.

[Bjarke]

People can believe in less regulations and less taxes (conservative view) or believe in the benefits of more State intervention (liberal).


Is everything this simple to you?


I don't see how decreasing tension in society, and making sure everybody is made safe from mentally hampered people (psychopaths, cleptomaniacs, homophobes and mysoginists) has to do with voting for a conservative or liberal party.

What's a "mysoginists"? :rolleyes:

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Is everything this simple to you?



What's a "mysoginists"? :rolleyes:

Issues like that will never completely go away. But what she is saying that it will help control it better. Politics have nothing to do with that.

[щрбл]

What's a "mysoginists"? :rolleyes:
It's a special kind of pathology, it describes a man who can't make sandwiches.

[Bjarke]

Issues like that will never completely go away. But what she is saying that it will help control it better.

What will never completely go away? Mental illness? Proud, patriotic views? She has merged the two into one. Maybe we should administer medicine in the opposite direction.

Punctuation and consistent tenses help a lot.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

What will never completely go away? Mental illness? Proud, patriotic views? She has merged the two into one. Maybe we should administer medicine in the opposite direction.

Punctuation and consistent tenses help a lot.


No its ok to be patriotic, And I can understand getting upset when people are not assimilating to the mainstream culture. But people generalize too much sometimes about things like that and often target people who are assimilating. Meanwhile you have other ethnic groups that still keep their traditions and its ok but some still get targeted. Racism is kind of nonsense but thats a debate that's I already got bored with on these forums. But yeah they are times when certain cultural practices or beliefs are just un acceptable. Homophobia, personally I think male homosexualism is nasty but obviously It's because I am straight male. I don't care if they get married though, has nothing to do with me. Just as long as they don't preach homosexualism at schools where they encourage kids to be homosexuals. But really I don't have a real issue with homosexuals in person, they live their life and just don't hit on me.

Racism is a bit extreme though, where they just become to the point of delusional. They hold on to their beliefs even if someone deemed racially undesirable to them was being generous and nice to them. and live their own life not following a path of crime ect and stereotypes.

[NatiaCutie]

What will never completely go away? Mental illness? Proud, patriotic views? She has merged the two into one. Maybe we should administer medicine in the opposite direction.

Punctuation and consistent tenses help a lot.

When have I said that patriotism is a pathology? I for one don't buy too much into it, but I am still glad to be British. People who want to feel good about themselves are not a problem to anyone.

[Vasconcelos]

it's about fighting hateful views and acts that can degenerate into violence and harm to people if left unchecked.

You mean..kind of like your own ideas towards people who you percieve as "dangerous", such as males with high testosterone?

How do you even define "racism", for instance?

[Unome]

Feminists resolve to silence their opposition through fear tactics, including censorship, forced medication, forced castration, and even worse ideas to follow.

Feminists (man-haters) need to be checked and are a threat to modern societies.

[Fortis in Arduis]

Some homophobia, misogyny and racial hatred might have a basis in mental illness, or psychological problems stemming from traumatic experience, but what you are suggesting is that certain thoughts and opinions are pathologised to suit your political agenda.

How would you feel if your political beliefs were pathologised and you were compelled to receive treatment for them?

I feel that the line is crossed when people become physically violent. Speech is not violent, and even though I dislike homophobia, racial hatred, misogyny, misandry, prejudicial class discrimination and plenty of other -isms, I would never want to see their expression in opinion criminalised any further, and I would support the repealing of the Race Relations Act and remove all concept of the hate crime from British law.

That said, punishment for violent crimes should be altogether more severe. It is an unbearable madness to live in a society where some violent crimes are seen as minor compared to offending someone's sensibilities.

The law should protect property and person more closely than it does now, and cease, reverse and desist from the instituting of thought crimes.

I read that something astonishing like 45% of male repeat offenders in jail are psychopathic. These men do not fear punishment, nor the consequences of their actions, so prison is an expensive waste of money and time.

Psychiatry might have some solutions, but far better to prevent maladies from arising in the first place. Allopathic medicine is lagging behind on this, but simple measures such as really good pre-natal care and preparation might go a long way in averting future dangers and problems.

[Sacrificed Ram]

But if we will control people with medications, could it sound like dehumanize them?

Go to put electrodes in their brains!!!

[LightHouse89]

I heard there is a drug underway for women who have feminist tendencies. It is apparently in testing phase. I hope it comes out soon for your sake.

[LightHouse89]

Feminists resolve to silence their opposition through fear tactics, including censorship, forced medication, forced castration, and even worse ideas to follow.

Feminists (man-haters) need to be checked and are a threat to modern societies.

A feminist can be humbled. :cool: It takes time to mend a wounded hand my friend.

[Sacrificed Ram]

A very relevant subject being discussed here and a lot of people losing time with harassment of the girl.

Like I acted when she harassed the swedish guy, I will not agree with same behaviour against her.

This is a very important matter to be discussed, about control people with medications, "re-education", electrodes, isolation, it reminds the times of EUGENIA, some day we will agree that eliminates some particular individuals could be health for some society or civilization.

Be Human is face the challenge together, not with isolation, harassment or forced control, or we will dehumanize ourselves.

[Duke]

Feminists resolve to silence their opposition through fear tactics, including censorship, forced medication, forced castration, and even worse ideas to follow.

Feminists (man-haters) need to be checked and are a threat to modern societies.

So you are saying Feminists need to be put on heavy meds?

hmmm....

[Unome]

So you are saying Feminists need to be put on heavy meds?

hmmm....
I'm saying that Feminists, at least espoused and represented by NatiaCutie, are Fascistic and a threat to others, especially including men, the proxy through which Feminists scapegoat and take their own personal issues out on. Many of these feminists are just man-haters in disguise. For example, a lot of young girls are "pumped & dumped", used up like tissues, and treated like shit by the average guy. The feminist then develops into a "jaded" woman, a perverted form of woman, who then despises all other men based on the behaviors and actions by a few men.

Women particularly are easy to identify according to these pathologies and causes.

Or another example is fathers abandoning a wife and/or daughter to which she will also tend to become "feministic" and liberal in her psychological development.


I've studied a lot of this before and also have firsthand experiences of it. Feminism is like a religious cult. Another proof is NatiaCutie herself purporting that "thought directly harms others". So if a guy were to think about "non consensual sex" then he automatically is a rapist and equal to an effective criminal who actually commits such crimes.

So yes these feminists technically and definitively are crazy.

Since they cannot be reasoned with, the only means of dealing with them is with greater or equal emotion than they have themselves.


For example they will call men "misogynists". Your method in dealing with them should not be to reason with them (since they ignore reason) but to preemptively attack them as misandrists (man-haters) as I have already demonstrated.

There is no reasoning with close-minded people and fundamentalist liberals. I now consider liberalism itself a religion, a cult. And these advocates follow cult leaders who spew their propaganda in Western schools, colleges, and universities.

[Sacrificed Ram]

So if a guy were to think about "non consensual sex" then he automatically is a rapist and equal to an effective criminal who actually commits such crimes.


Is there some non consesual sex that isn't rape? :pound:



Since they cannot be reasoned with, the only means of dealing with them is with greater or equal emotion than they have themselves.


I hope You never use such methods if you dealing against homosexuals... :rotfl:

[Tchek]

It's not about being liberal or conservative, it's about fighting hateful views and acts that can degenerate into violence and harm to people if left unchecked. People can believe in less regulations and less taxes (conservative view) or believe in the benefits of more State intervention (liberal).

I don't see how decreasing tension in society, and making sure everybody is made safe from mentally hampered people (psychopaths, cleptomaniacs, homophobes and mysoginists) has to do with voting for a conservative or liberal party.

Hate is a feeling, not an opinion. It's not about what you think, but *how* you think whatever you think.
You can be a liberal and be hateful, that's what liberals don't get. The "hater" is always the other.

Besides your conservative/liberal definition is a bit simplistic; but let's pretend. From this definiton, you are an extreme liberal, since you want state intervention as far as people's mind, to domesticate them into conformity.

[Vasconcelos]

By the way, hostile actions against people with a different racial background is something that has always happened in human history, it's not a new "pathological behaviour". In fact, we're (Humans) a lot more tolerant today than we used to (http://mx.tuhistory.com/noticias/la-verdadera-primera-guerra-hace-13-mil-anos).

[Unome]

Is there some non consesual sex that isn't rape? :pound:
Yes, a college party where young adults (20-24) are getting drunk, a random guy and girl will have sex without her expressed consent but she doesn't say no. So she has total control over rape-accusations. The thing about consent is "female permission". Nobody cares if a man "gives consent" to sex. Because men cannot be raped (by women). Therefore, again, men and women are not equal. Females are the protected gender. Males are the expendable gender.



I hope You never use such methods if you dealing against homosexuals... :rotfl:
Male homosexuals tend to be more rational & reasonable in their arguments defending their (perverted) homosexual lifestyle.

Females generally are emotional and irrational all around. A male homosexual can defend his perversion in argument better than a feminist can.

[Sacrificed Ram]

Yes, a college party where young adults (20-24) are getting drunk, a random guy and girl will have sex without her expressed consent but she doesn't say no. So she has total control over rape-accusations. The thing about consent is "female permission". Nobody cares if a man "gives consent" to sex. Because men cannot be raped (by women). Therefore, again, men and women are not equal. Females are the protected gender. Males are the expendable gender.

I hope You never will say have an intercourse with a person in COMA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coma) on a hospital bed isn't rape, this is an alcoholic COMA.

But I'm discussing what is rape or not rape, not what is sexual crime or not. Not ever rape and crime are synonymous, it could vary with culture and legislation you are subdued.




Male homosexuals tend to be more rational & reasonable in their arguments defending their (perverted) homosexual lifestyle. Females generally are emotional and irrational all around. A male homosexual can defend his perversion in argument better than a feminist can.

Imagine, If you combat an idiot being more idiot than him/her, you will combat gays being more gay than them!

If she is extremist you don't need behave bad like her, the most important thing you need is preserve your identity and values.

[Odin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lg06JHS1sk