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Leto
12-17-2014, 05:25 PM
Priyanka and Rahul Gandhi. They are 1/2 Indian, 1/2 Italian. Could they pass as Southern Italians/Sicilians?
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Sikeliot
12-17-2014, 05:39 PM
She looks still a bit Indian in some way, he could pass though.

special
12-17-2014, 07:31 PM
the 2nd looks European

Hadouken
12-17-2014, 07:35 PM
when I looked at the first one without reading what she is I thought "Pakistani" (I swear)

you can see it in her face

so no

second one not sure

Hadouken
12-17-2014, 07:36 PM
sorry double post

Leto
12-17-2014, 07:42 PM
Yes, I agree that the man looks more Euro than the woman, however both of them are lighter than the majority of South Asians.

Antimage
12-17-2014, 07:46 PM
the woman no.
the man yes.

Ianus
12-17-2014, 08:07 PM
Both look mainly indian, expecially the eye zone

Hithaeglir
12-17-2014, 08:08 PM
The man maybe.The woman definitely no.

TheForeigner
12-18-2014, 01:51 PM
I think Salmon Rushdie could pass as Italian even. He is not that dark for a South Asian or even if he was a Middle Eastern man. But he is full Northwest Indian (or Pakistani?) Muslim.

Tiberio
12-18-2014, 04:00 PM
The man maybe.The woman definitely no.

Not even the man when i have seen other pictures

Ulla
12-18-2014, 04:42 PM
I think Salmon Rushdie could pass as Italian even. He is not that dark for a South Asian or even if he was a Middle Eastern man. But he is full Northwest Indian (or Pakistani?) Muslim.

Salman Rushdie not really.

Leto
12-18-2014, 04:43 PM
Salman Rushdie not really.
Salman looks more Jewish.

Ulla
12-18-2014, 04:50 PM
She looks still a bit Indian in some way, he could pass though.

Agree. He could pass not only in Italy but also in other Southern European places.

Their Italian mother

Sonia Maino

http://www.unavoceperledonne.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Indira-648x430.jpg

TheForeigner
12-18-2014, 04:51 PM
Salman looks more Jewish.

I agree and it's surprising. Is he pure Paki or Indian? Jews and Italians resemble each other anyway.

Ulla
12-18-2014, 04:51 PM
Salman looks more Jewish.

Agree, he can pass in Italy as a Rabbi.

Ulla
12-18-2014, 04:52 PM
Jews and Italians resemble each other anyway.

Absolutely not average Italians.

TheForeigner
12-18-2014, 04:52 PM
That Italian woman looks like Reese Whiterspoon.:)

Ulla
12-18-2014, 04:59 PM
That Italian woman looks like Reese Whiterspoon.:)

True. I found it in an Indian website.

Other pics of her

http://www.gandhisonia.com/images/childhood.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CeUgUJBQIMQ/TOYJEmCrNAI/AAAAAAAAAA0/6bDXMGyRI6o/s1600/Intimacy+that+breaks+legitimacy.jpg

Sikeliot
12-18-2014, 05:04 PM
Absolutely not average Italians.

Southernmost Italians (Calabria, Sicily) can look like Jews and vice versa. Keep in mind that they plot together genetically, and that Jews in Europe have a lot of Italian convert ancestry from Roman times.

Ulla
12-18-2014, 05:06 PM
Southernmost Italians (Calabria, Sicily) can look like Jews and vice versa. Keep in mind that they plot together genetically, and that Jews in Europe have a lot of Italian convert ancestry from Roman times.

Even if you are right, Calabrians and Sicilians are not average Italians. And you perfectly know this.

And I know tons of Calabrians and Sicilians that do not look like Jews.

Sikeliot
12-18-2014, 05:10 PM
Even if you are right, Calabrians and Sicilians are not average Italians. And I know tons of Calabrians and Sicilians that do not look like Jews.

I know some who look even darker and more exotic than Jews. And then some who could be taken for Anglo.
So what? The point is they average out genetically and some of them look similar. People mistake my dad as Ashkenazi all the time, and his closest celebrity lookalikes are all Jews.

Sakis
12-18-2014, 05:13 PM
The man looks fully European.

TheForeigner
12-18-2014, 05:15 PM
How do Jews compare in pigmentation with Italians? There seem to be many more pale and/or light eyed and haired jews. Less of the Euro Jews that are quite dark and Levantine looking.

Sikeliot
12-18-2014, 05:16 PM
How do Jews compare in pigmentation with Italians? There seem to be many more pale and/or light eyed and haired jews. Less of the Euro Jews that are quite dark and Levantine looking.

I don't know for sure based on the Jews I know because I don't know if they have 2 Jewish parents or not.

Ulla
12-18-2014, 05:23 PM
I know some who look even darker and more exotic than Jews. And then some who could be taken for Anglo.
So what? The point is they average out genetically and some of them look similar. People mistake my dad as Ashkenazi all the time, and his closest celebrity lookalikes are all Jews.

You are not an average Italian, deal with it.

The fact the people mistake you and your father (what people? Americans!) for an Ashkenazi, it doesn't mean that Italians look Ashkenazi. In Italy people like your and your father are called terun. But not all the Southern Italians are stereotypical terun.

It's like saying that all Romanians look Gypsies because some Romanians are Gypsies.

Ulla
12-18-2014, 05:25 PM
The man looks fully European.

Even Spanish as well.

Sikeliot
12-18-2014, 05:25 PM
The fact the people mistake you and your father (what people? Americans!) for an Ashkenazi, it doesn't mean that Italians look Ashkenazi. In Italy people like your and your father are called terun. But not all the Southern Italians are stereotypical terun.



But those who are are seen very disdainfully by people like you, and you wonder why it makes me resentful.

Foxy
12-18-2014, 05:26 PM
Woman couldn't, man yes.

Foxy
12-18-2014, 05:29 PM
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I know some who look even darker and more exotic than Jews. And then some who could be taken for Anglo.
So what? The point is they average out genetically and some of them look similar. People mistake my dad as Ashkenazi all the time, and his closest celebrity lookalikes are all Jews.

May I see a pic of your dad?

Manifest Destiny
12-18-2014, 05:36 PM
The lady just looks Indian. I think the guy could pass for Italian, though.

Ulla
12-18-2014, 05:46 PM
But those who are are seen very disdainfully by people like you, and you wonder why it makes me resentful.

About this, you do not deserve an answer.

In ten years’ time I suggest you to read all what you have written in these years.

Foxy
12-18-2014, 05:49 PM
But those who are are seen very disdainfully by people like you, and you wonder why it makes me resentful.

Sik, your father in the prewedding photo looked European, typical Italian American before Jersey Shore. I suppose he looked Sicilian. By time it seems he gained some weight and it makes his features look bigger, but to say that he looks Lebanese seems excessive to me.

Sikeliot
12-18-2014, 05:51 PM
Sik, your father in the prewedding photo looked European, typical Italian American before Jersey Shore. I suppose he looked Sicilian. By time it seems he gained some weight and it makes his features look bigger, but to say that he looks Lebanese seems excessive to me.

It's not me saying it but rather Americans. Mind you he lives in a town now with very few Italians, and only Portuguese, Brazilian and Irish and a few Lebanese.

SupaThug
12-18-2014, 06:14 PM
I think that the man looks more euro than the woman,but I think both could pass as italian!I know many people here in São Paulo that are fully italian and are quite similar to them!

Ulla
12-18-2014, 06:20 PM
I think that the man looks more euro than the woman,but I think both could pass as italian!I know many people here in São Paulo that are fully italian and are quite similar to them!

On the basis of the Brazilians who live in Italy, you could guess that there are no white Brazilians.

Ianus
12-18-2014, 06:22 PM
Salman Rushdie not really.

GipsyBear is a Rom who trolls italians, don't take hin seriously:thumb001:

Leto
12-18-2014, 06:26 PM
GipsyBear is a Rom who trolls italians, don't take hin seriously:thumb001:
He isn't a Gypsy.

SupaThug
12-18-2014, 06:41 PM
On the basis of the Brazilians who live in Italy, you could guess that there are no white Brazilians.

Those brazilians who are fully italian and have simillar phenotypes to them are almost always of Calabrese,Campanian,Puglian or Sicilian ancestry!There are many brazilians who would not stand out in Italy because they are fully italian,my maternal grandmother is one of them :thumbs up

Sikeliot
12-18-2014, 06:45 PM
Those brazilians who are fully italian and have simillar phenotypes to them are almost always of Calabrese,Campanian,Puglian or Sicilian ancestry!There are many brazilians who would not stand out in Italy because they are fully italian,my maternal grandmother is one of them :thumbs up

Which region is your grandmother from?

Ulla
12-18-2014, 06:47 PM
Those brazilians who are fully italian and have simillar phenotypes to them are almost always of Calabrese,Campanian,Puglian or Sicilian ancestry!There are many brazilians who would not stand out in Italy because they are fully italian,my maternal grandmother is one of them :thumbs up

This is exactly what Italian-Americans usually say. :thumb001:

SupaThug
12-18-2014, 06:49 PM
Which region is your grandmother from?

My grandmother's ancestry comes from Tuscany and Veneto!Her phenotype is much lighter than those two half indian half italian guys.

SupaThug
12-18-2014, 06:54 PM
This is exactly what Italian-Americans usually say. :thumb001:

What do you mean?

Sikeliot
12-18-2014, 06:55 PM
What do you mean?

She's just being snarky, don't take it to heart. She is probably accusing you of being Italian American and not Brazilian.

Ulla
12-18-2014, 07:29 PM
Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta. :rolleyes:

Panormus
12-18-2014, 07:30 PM
Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta. :rolleyes:

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saci
12-18-2014, 07:32 PM
On the basis of the Brazilians who live in Italy, you could guess that there are no white Brazilians.

Brazilians are a small group in italy!

Foxy
12-22-2014, 07:53 AM
It's not me saying it but rather Americans. Mind you he lives in a town now with very few Italians, and only Portuguese, Brazilian and Irish and a few Lebanese.

This is the explanation. In Italy none would take him for Lebanese. :)

armenianbodyhair
12-22-2014, 07:59 AM
The guy can