Classify writer with 2kg brain.

[Not a Cop]

2012 g. to be correct, Ivan Turgenev.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2_%D0%A2%D1%83%D1%80% D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B2.jpg
http://smbr.ru/lc/tr_p01.jpg
http://feb-web.ru/feb/irl/pictures/il8-369.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-egnwECMpuLk/TwmD6GLYJ5I/AAAAAAAAAJg/erYnag5_1ug/s1600/21.jpg
http://img0.liveinternet.ru/images/attach/c/6/92/454/92454458_4497432_tyrg_3.jpg
http://files.school-collection.edu.ru/dlrstore/4082ffd7-d76b-43ba-99bf-cf567cdf5e40/Images/6.jpg
http://www.pushkinmuseum.ru/sites/default/files/styles/intext_pictures/public/pictures/exhibition/vystavka-k-195-letiyu-so-dnya-rozhdeniya-i.s.turgeneva-sredi-lyudey-mne-blizkih-i-chuzhih.s-3-sentyabrya./n.ge.portreti.s.turgeneva.jpg
http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/enc_literature/i_515.jpg

Death mask:

http://www.pushkinmuseum.ru/sites/default/files/styles/intext_pictures/public/pictures/event/novost/sozdanie-materiala-sobytie/96881.900xp.jpg
http://www.turgenev.org.ru/art-gallery/gritsyuk/037.jpg

[Harkonnen]

Indeed, the largest recorded brain evah. Also much better writer than his better known followers and copycats.

[Tooting Carmen]

Keltic-Nordic.

[Duke]

CM+dinarid

[Linebacker]

He is notoriously Dinaric.

[Not a Cop]

Indeed, the largest recorded brain evah. Also much better writer than his better known followers and copycats.

I've read that Byron and Cromwell had over 2kg also, but i failied to find any sourse.

[just]

Baltid.

[Not a Cop]

bump

[Furnace]

Not sure if he will measure up to The Ûbermensch's meazurementz though, his skull is apparently enormous.

[Kalimtari]

I wonder how much my brain weighs, since my head diameter is 66cm. It has to be bigger than the average

[Amud]

Neanderthal

[Dani Cutie]

Dinaric/baltid.

[oh-nahhh]

Noric/Nordid.

[Anglojew]

Looks like Rade Šerbedžija

[Roy]

How tall was he?

[Duke]

Looks like Rade Šerbedžija

Looks bit more to this guy tbh
http://www.avaz.ba/storage/2014/09/09/thumbs/540f30f1-3d58-4b4c-beed-7ab4b0765237-zvonimir-torjanac-718x446.jpg

But yes, Dinarid stronk, but i belive he has also some CM influence

[Kalimtari]

looks like that, what's his name, Southern US general. Lee?

[Harkonnen]

He is notoriously Dinaric.

This man is not Dinaric at all. The dinaric nose is completely different, and the nasal convexity has more to do with the position of the maxilla, where as with this guy it's more on the angle how the nasal bones project forward.

Based on the overall robustness etc I would rather see him, in evolutionary terms, as some sort of Eastern CM relic type. This guy is obviously a northern dude. Apparently he was born in Ukraine, but as his family was nobility, I would suggest he was a rather recent emigrant from the north as pretty much all Russian nobility originated from the north.

You have to remember that unlike with Western CM types, which were characterized by very broad noses, there existed long nosed types in the East, and overall the Eastern CMs were more leptomorphic than western, tho most certainly they were not no wogs in this regard.


A significant contribution to the study of the early population history of Eastern Europe and of the origins of the contradictory trait combinations distributed on that territory was made by T.I. Alekseyeva. In a joint monograph describing the Neolithic cranial series from Sakhtysh in the Upper Volga area, she notes that certain European Mesolithic groups were characterized by large dimensions of the braincase and especially by its conspicuous height. The face was wide and relatively low and a flattened upper facial profile co-occurred with a sharp midfacial profile and sharply protruding nasal bones (Alekseyeva, 1997). In Alekseyeva’s words, this unusual trait combination, which was more than once revealed by multivariate statistics, was widely distributed and was typical of Mesolithic Caucasoids of the forest and forest-steppe zones of Eastern Europe as evidenced by groups such as Zvejnieki, Popovo, Southern Oleniy(Reindeer) Island, and Vasilievka I and III. In her words,there is no doubt that robustness and upper facial flatness were inherited from earlier Caucasoid populations of Eastern Europe (Ibid.: 26).


I believe this guy looks very similar to Bronze Age Estonians, who according to Coon were very long faced, with a nose of great height, but at the same same time also had very wide (UP-like) absolute lateral measurements. The upper facial index being 54.5, and the facial index 92.2. The bizygomatic diameter was 140.2 mm, so very robust. Tho Ivan looks more broadfaced, so in this regard he may be tad more similar to some of the Karelian groups.
The Estonian and other Baltic more leptomorphic hg types are quite interesting case, as quite quickly to the south and east of them the hg:s returned to the more typical broadfaced HG form.


Indeed, the largest recorded brain evah. Also much better writer than his better known followers and copycats.

I have to admit that I haven't read much of his followers, rather browsed through here and there. I'm a firm believer, that if you something to say, surely you do not need a thousand page to say it? I think they started at some point, in Russia, to pay these writers by the number of words they produced. Turgenev kept it short and sweet.


Neanderthal

You are insane in the head.

[Not a Cop]

How tall was he?

192 cm

[Duke]

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bla bla bla,lol you have shat all around the roses, he is obviusly dinaric slav, not some estonian sami fin

[Harkonnen]

bla bla bla,lol you have shat all around the roses,

Seriously? Unlike the usual mundane one liners, I actually took the effort to put a well thought response to this thread. And this is your response to that: a mundane one liner.


he is obviusly dinaric slav, not some estonian sami fin

I did not actually claim he was Finnish, though I would not say, that I would be terribly surprised if he had a couple of Finnic ancestors. All I said was that as far as Russians go, this guy is from the Northern End. I repeat: All of his features are perfectly explainable as some sort of evolutionary relic from the mesolithic times, so there is really no reason to bring Dinarics in the table as some sort of genuine ancestrial explanation to this guy's looks.

If you'd had any idea on the origins of Russian nobility, you'd understand that there is zero chance he originates from the dinaric alps or whatever, unless he is terribly mixed in the maternal side.

[Duke]

Seriously? Unlike the usual mundane one liners, I actually took the effort to put a well thought response to this thread. And this is your response to that: a mundane one liner.



I did not actually claim he was Finnish, though I would not say, that I would be terribly surprised if he had a couple of Finnic ancestors. All I said was that as far as Russians go, this guy is from the Northern End. I repeat: All of his features are perfectly explainable as some sort of evolutionary relic from the mesolithic times, so there is really no reason to bring Dinarics in the table as some sort of genuine ancestrial explanation to this guy's looks.

If you'd had any idea on the origins of Russian nobility, you'd understand that there is zero chance he originates from the dinaric alps or whatever, unless he is terribly mixed in the maternal side.

And you know?
LOL

you went into fucking mythology to explain something that should be according to you.

Dinaric is a common subrace for all slavs, along with baltid and noric, and old slav depictions show them as well like that

Also we are not talking about nobility, nobility all around world is heavily mixed, reason, marriage ties due to political connection, retard

[Not a Cop]

Seriously? Unlike the usual mundane one liners, I actually took the effort to put a well thought response to this thread. And this is your response to that: a mundane one liner.



I did not actually claim he was Finnish, though I would not say, that I would be terribly surprised if he had a couple of Finnic ancestors. All I said was that as far as Russians go, this guy is from the Northern End. I repeat: All of his features are perfectly explainable as some sort of evolutionary relic from the mesolithic times, so there is really no reason to bring Dinarics in the table as some sort of genuine ancestrial explanation to this guy's looks.

If you'd had any idea on the origins of Russian nobility, you'd understand that there is zero chance he originates from the dinaric alps or whatever, unless he is terribly mixed in the maternal side.

Wiki says he's fathers line was from Tula, mother's line seem to be from Orel, though description seems to fit UP phenotype

"On her ugly face with a massive chin and nose with wide nostrils remained traces of smallpox."

[Harkonnen]

Wiki says he's fathers line was from Tula, mother's line seem to be from Orel, though description seems to fit UP phenotype

"On her ugly face with a massive chin and nose with wide nostrils remained traces of smallpox."

Yeah, but where do you think his daddy got to Tula from :D

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I00003bpucyuZhc0/s/750/750/Bald-eagle-in-foggy-flight-B-W.jpg

[Roy]

192 cm

I asked because (to some extent) brain size corresponds with general body size. Still average person of his height is going to have much smaller brain.

[Zmey Gorynych]

Eastern-CM with Dinarid or very dinaromorphic East-Nordid. He was a big guy for his time.

http://media-1.web.britannica.com/eb-media/33/8933-004-E321F0C5.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Turgenev_1867_by_Wertzinger.jpg

[Sekkmer]

Eastern-CM with Dinarid or very dinaromorphic East-Nordid. He was a big guy for his time.

http://media-1.web.britannica.com/eb-media/33/8933-004-E321F0C5.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Turgenev_1867_by_Wertzinger.jpg

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