Should Palestinians Convert En Masse To Judaism To Solve The Midde-East Conflict?

[Anglojew]

The conflict over Palestine has continued for over 100 years. At its heart it is a conflict between Jews and Palestinians for control of the same territory. One solution, known as the "Two-State Solution," is to divide the territory into a Jewish and a Palestinian state. This solution has so far not worked due to pan-Arabist and Islamist rejection of any independent Jewish state and Zionist rejection of Palestinian's right of self-determination -including defense- based upon national security and other issues.

The conflict is ironic in a number of ways. The identities of both Jews and Palestinians are both based upon different epochs in this same land; being based upon Judea and Palestina respectively. They are both just interpretations based on different time periods. Furthermore, in many cases Palestinians are as ethnically "Jewish" OR MORE SO than Jews themselves, as modern researches such Tsvi Misinai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai)have determined that Jews and Palestinians share common Hebrew roots:


...the majority of the Palestinian people—including those with Israeli citizenship or residency, known variously as Arab citizens of Israel, Arab Israelis, Israeli Arabs, including the Bedouin Arabs of Israel—are descendants of the ancient Hebrews, as most of the world's Jewish ethnic divisions are.


As a result of remaining in the Land of Israel, the ancestors of the Palestinians partially converted to Christianity during the Byzantine era. Later, with the coming of Islam, they were Islamized through a combination of mainly forced conversions, but also nominal conversions (that is, conversions for forms sake to derive benefits as Muslims, and avoid tributes owed by non-Muslims, in Muslim ruled lands) and others yet out of genuine theological conviction.

About 85% of Palestinians have Hebrew (Jewish, Samaritan and Israelite) roots. They left Judaism (or proto-Judaism) due to Roman, Byzantine, Arab and Turkish rule, especially due to the al-Haken Edict where;


In 1012, the al-Hakem Edict was issued, under which all Jews and Christians in Palestine were ordered to either convert to Islam or leave. This led to the majority of non-Hebrew origin Christians (i.e., foreign Christians) to leave Palestine, while over 90 per cent of Jews, Samaritans (also of Hebrew origin) and Hebrew-origin Christians converted and became Muslims. They would also become Musta'arabim (Arabized), acculturated into Arab language, custom and culture.

This is not just hearsay or speculation, every genetic test confirm the validity of these theories, for instance in High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews. Human Genetics Vol. 107 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people#DNA_and_genetic_studies), No. 6, (December 2000), pp. 630–641:



Nebel found genetic evidence in support of historical records that "part, or perhaps the majority" of Muslim Palestinians descend from "local inhabitants, mainly Christians and Jews, who had converted after the Islamic conquest in the seventh century AD"

Put simply, modern Jews are mainly the descendants of Hebrew males admixed with European (and other) females at some point in time, while Palestinians are mainly descended from Hebrew females admixed with Arabian (and other) males. Both peoples are closely related AND share much common ancestry. Almost amazingly, these two "enemies" fighting over the same land, Palestinians and Jews are actually one and the same people. Once Palestinians discard the layers of Arabisation and Islamisation, artificially forced onto them over time, Palestinians are once again allowed to re-hebrewise and re-Judaise.

Hebrew and Judaism are, after all, indigenous to Palestine whereas Arabic and Islam are native to Arabia.

As Jews Palestinians will be allowed to all the rights and privileges Zionism offers, all Palestinians will be accepted -including all refugees under the Law of Return- into the greater Israel territory (created by the merging of Israel, the West Bank, Gaza and Jordan) benefiting both Jews and Palestinians socially, economically and culturally and truly creating a stronger Israeli people. Practically, Palestinians probably don't have to go through formal orthodox conversions as most are genetically -therefore in accordance with Jewish law- Jewish as they descend from Hebrew and Israelite females. Almost all Palestinians and Israeli Arabs speak Hebrew as a second language now anyway.

Palestinians should convert en masse to Judaism, thereby both solving the Middle-East conflict, and doubling the size and strength of a united Israel.

[SupaThug]

It would be awsome!

[Crn Volk]

No, they should convert to Christianity

[Mars06]

No. The Jews should be forced to convert to Islam. It's 2014, guys. The Prophet Mohammed came over 1500 years ago. Christians and Jews need to get with the times and convert to Islam.

[Anglojew]

No. The Jews should be forced to convert to Islam. It's 2014, guys. The Prophet Mohammed came over 1500 years ago. Christians and Jews need to get with the times and convert to Islam.

Jews and Christians can't respect a person that broke all, or most, of the 10 commandments. This certainly disqualifies him from prophet status.

[Anglojew]

No, they should convert to Christianity

Judaism has stayed much closer to it's indigenous Palestinian heritage than Christianity which has grafted many more pagan elements from Greece and elsewhere.

It makes more sense for both Hebrew peoples to follow the Hebrew religion.

[Anglojew]

It would be awsome!

Agreed. It's the perfect solution for all involved and it makes complete historical, cultural and logical sense.

[rick1977]

Agreed. It's the perfect solution for all involved and it makes complete historical, cultural and logical sense.

I agree that would be awesome, but the Arabs will be pissed and not too happy:cussing:angryw, heck they may invade Israel, thats Israels chance to send a giant fire cracker to Mecca and Medina:evil, now please give suggestions as to what we (the West) does with our Muzzie population... Half or at least a good % of which I reckon may not Assimilate....

[Shah-Jehan]

They can convert to whatever they want after the dissolution of the state of Israel.

[Anglojew]

They can convert to whatever they want after the dissolution of the state of Israel.

East Pakistan should likewise be absorbed by India.

[Tooting Carmen]

Just when you thought that Anglojew couldn't get more batty...

[Anglojew]

Just when you thought that Anglojew couldn't get more batty...

I agree it's a revolutionary idea.

[Tooting Carmen]

I agree it's a revolutionary idea.

Yes. It is akin to asking Kulaks and Ukrainians to 'convert' en masse to Communism in order to bring peace and unity to the USSR.

[Ballist]

You cease to make me not laugh, again! This is quite a great joke, Mr. Anglojew. Please consider being a comedian as an occupation.

[Yuffayur]

Stop your islamic fetish bro.

[Anglojew]

Yes. It is akin to asking Kulaks and Ukrainians to 'convert' en masse to Communism in order to bring peace and unity to the USSR.

If they were descended from ancient communists, and in the midst of an intractable conflict in which their leaders current and past policies had only brought them misery and suffering and this new opportunity for unity with their current enemy would solve all of their problems and bring about regional peace and prosperity, then I'd agree with the analogy.

[Anglojew]

Stop your islamic fetish bro.

After you

[Yuffayur]

After you

You both are shit, leave religion and you will live in peace.

[Anglojew]

You both are shit, leave religion and you will live in peace.

Opium of the masses (for 19th century Europe and 21st century Middle East). Probably true.

[Kamal900]

The conflict over Palestine has continued for over 100 years. At its heart it is a conflict between Jews and Palestinians for control of the same territory. One solution, known as the "Two-State Solution," is to divide the territory into a Jewish and a Palestinian state. This solution has so far not worked due to pan-Arabist and Islamist rejection of any independent Jewish state and Zionist rejection of Palestinian's right of self-determination -including defense- based upon national security and other issues.

The conflict is ironic in a number of ways. The identities of both Jews and Palestinians are both based upon different epochs in this same land; being based upon Judea and Palestina respectively. They are both just interpretations based on different time periods. Furthermore, in many cases Palestinians are as ethnically "Jewish" OR MORE SO than Jews themselves, as modern researches such Tsvi Misinai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai)have determined that Jews and Palestinians share common Hebrew roots:





About 85% of Palestinians have Hebrew (Jewish, Samaritan and Israelite) roots. They left Judaism (or proto-Judaism) due to Roman, Byzantine, Arab and Turkish rule, especially due to the al-Haken Edict where;



This is not just hearsay or speculation, every genetic test confirm the validity of these theories, for instance in High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews. Human Genetics Vol. 107 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people#DNA_and_genetic_studies), No. 6, (December 2000), pp. 630–641:



Put simply, modern Jews are mainly the descendants of Hebrew males admixed with European (and other) females at some point in time, while Palestinians are mainly descended from Hebrew females admixed with Arabian (and other) males. Both peoples are closely related AND share much common ancestry. Almost amazingly, these two "enemies" fighting over the same land, Palestinians and Jews are actually one and the same people. Once Palestinians discard the layers of Arabisation and Islamisation artificially forced onto them over time Palestinians are once again allowed to re-hebrewise and re-Judaise. Hebrew and Judaism are, after all, indigenous to Palestine whereas Arabic and Islam are native to Arabia. As Jews Palestinians will be allowed to all the rights and priviledges Zionism offers, all Palestinians will be accepted -including all refugees under the Law of Return- into the greater Israel territory (created by the merging of Israel, the West Bank, Gaza and Jordan) benefiting both Jews and Palestinians socially, economically and culturally and truly creating a stronger Israeli people. Practically, Palestinians probably don't have to go through formal orthodox conversions as most are genetically -therefore in accordance with Jewish law- Jewish as they descend from Hebrew and Israelite females. Almost all Palestinians and Israeli Arabs speak Hebrew as a second language now anyway.

Palestinians should convert en masse to Judasism and in doing so solve the Middle-East conflict and double the strength of Israel and both Jews and Palestinians.

No. Forcing my people to convert to Judaism is along to make things even worse, and Judaism in its teachings are no better than Islam. WHAT we should do instead is a cooperative effort to change the two people's perception on each other, and getting rid of any religious and racial supremacy that encourages oppressing or even killing of peoples outside their respective groups. We don't need to join another cult to fix things in the middle east, and instead should be more focusing in collective effort in admitting our own evils and faults and seeing each other more as cousins or relatives rather than complete aliens. Zionism and Islamism are both sick political ideologies seeking in dominating other peoples and countries just to increase their power over the middle east and the world, and i don't want my people to join in either of those things.

[KawaiiKawaii]

Y'all should covert to Christianity. Much better than the tribal hebrew bullshit or the bloodthirsty arabic stupidity.

[wvwvw]

No. The Jews should be forced to convert to Islam. It's 2014, guys. The Prophet Mohammed came over 1500 years ago. Christians and Jews need to get with the times and convert to Islam.

Or rather both should convert to Buddhism :D

[rick1977]

No. Forcing my people to convert to Judaism is along to make things even worse, and Judaism in its teachings are no better than Islam. WHAT we should do instead is a cooperative effort to change the two people's perception on each other, and getting rid of any religious and racial supremacy that encourages oppressing or even killing of peoples outside their respective groups. We don't need to join another cult to fix things in the middle east, and instead should be more focusing in collective effort in admitting our own evils and faults and seeing each other more as cousins or relatives rather than complete aliens. Zionism and Islamism are both sick political ideologies seeking in dominating other peoples and countries just to increase their power over the middle east and the world, and i don't want my people to join in either of those things.

I think you've raised a good point, there is definitely a "Jewish Supremacism Ideology" within the Talmud and Lesser Extent Torah, however I suppose most religions their believers are told they are the CHOSEN ONES:bored:. Even Islam is a supremacist religion, the difference is the vast majority of Jews can "pass" easily in Western Countries, meanwhile 90% of Muzzies are Brown dudes (maybe exception is the Balkan/South-East Eruo Muzzies), but for me these guys assimilate the best (the Balkan Muzzies) and don't have (or much less so) a chip on there shoulder like the Brown Skinned and Black skinned Muzzies, The vast majority of Muzzies in the west look like this... Charming Chaps:picard1:.

That said apart from the supremacist jews which are maybe 20%-25% of the population, I would take Jews rather than Muzzies, they are far more likely to assimilte / not where a cloth on their fucking head and not demand X / Y / Z for their shit religion.... Also (just IMHO) you can on average have a more intellectual conversations with Jews rather than Muzzies on religion/politics/world affairs etc... A good percentage of Muzzies which are Freshies (in the US and lesser Extent Europe).... They will be like the blacks they will never quite fit in. I wish no harm to Jews, but much of the Bullshit and Marxist stuff the ELITE JEWS push WILL NOT benefit them in the Long Term, it will lead to more anti-semitism. Even a more Multi-Culti Europe and USA, will not protect the Jews from purges or large scale Anti-Semitism, the Bolshevik Russia was quite Multi-Cultural, see what happened to them!

The Jews will suffer more, as with Europe the Vast Majority of "Anti-Jewish" crime is done by Muzzies and Blacks, meanwhile they continue to have religous hi-5's with these folks, I just don't get it:confused: The mojority of "street jews" dislike Multi-Culti and Mass Immigration, I just hope the Elite Jews (and their Non-Jewish supporters) figure out well in time that Mass Immigration and Diversity = from a ancient greek work called DIVESTUS = to divide) figure its out and comes to their senses ASAP!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WpAVdUo1b7o/VFPT8TFUbhI/AAAAAAAAAZI/sGEubNhKUWw/s1600/Global%2BIslamic%2BJihad%2B--%2B%2BThe%2BAfghan%2BEncounter.jpg

[Nebuchadnezzar]

The conflict over Palestine has continued for over 100 years. At its heart it is a conflict between Jews and Palestinians for control of the same territory. One solution, known as the "Two-State Solution," is to divide the territory into a Jewish and a Palestinian state. This solution has so far not worked due to pan-Arabist and Islamist rejection of any independent Jewish state and Zionist rejection of Palestinian's right of self-determination -including defense- based upon national security and other issues.

The conflict is ironic in a number of ways. The identities of both Jews and Palestinians are both based upon different epochs in this same land; being based upon Judea and Palestina respectively. They are both just interpretations based on different time periods. Furthermore, in many cases Palestinians are as ethnically "Jewish" OR MORE SO than Jews themselves, as modern researches such Tsvi Misinai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai)have determined that Jews and Palestinians share common Hebrew roots:





About 85% of Palestinians have Hebrew (Jewish, Samaritan and Israelite) roots. They left Judaism (or proto-Judaism) due to Roman, Byzantine, Arab and Turkish rule, especially due to the al-Haken Edict where;



This is not just hearsay or speculation, every genetic test confirm the validity of these theories, for instance in High-resolution Y chromosome haplotypes of Israeli and Palestinian Arabs reveal geographic substructure and substantial overlap with haplotypes of Jews. Human Genetics Vol. 107 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people#DNA_and_genetic_studies), No. 6, (December 2000), pp. 630–641:



Put simply, modern Jews are mainly the descendants of Hebrew males admixed with European (and other) females at some point in time, while Palestinians are mainly descended from Hebrew females admixed with Arabian (and other) males. Both peoples are closely related AND share much common ancestry. Almost amazingly, these two "enemies" fighting over the same land, Palestinians and Jews are actually one and the same people. Once Palestinians discard the layers of Arabisation and Islamisation artificially forced onto them over time Palestinians are once again allowed to re-hebrewise and re-Judaise. Hebrew and Judaism are, after all, indigenous to Palestine whereas Arabic and Islam are native to Arabia. As Jews Palestinians will be allowed to all the rights and priviledges Zionism offers, all Palestinians will be accepted -including all refugees under the Law of Return- into the greater Israel territory (created by the merging of Israel, the West Bank, Gaza and Jordan) benefiting both Jews and Palestinians socially, economically and culturally and truly creating a stronger Israeli people. Practically, Palestinians probably don't have to go through formal orthodox conversions as most are genetically -therefore in accordance with Jewish law- Jewish as they descend from Hebrew and Israelite females. Almost all Palestinians and Israeli Arabs speak Hebrew as a second language now anyway.

Palestinians should convert en masse to Judasism and in doing so solve the Middle-East conflict and double the strength of Israel and both Jews and Palestinians.

Why ?

So you could turn them into your Goys ? Working shitty jobs and facing racism like the Ethiopian jews ?

Get the fuck outta here shlomo, I'd rather die as the kafir that I am than convert into your religion.....

[Hubal]

^lol :icon_lol:

[Anglojew]

Why ?

So you could turn them into your Goys ? Working shitty jobs and facing racism like the Ethiopian jews ?

Get the fuck outta here shlomo, I'd rather die as the kafir that I am than convert into your religion.....

Are you a Palestinian?

[zhaoyun]

:picard1:

[alpha]

JUST NUKE ISRAEL ALREADY

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Are you a Palestinian?

Naaah, I'm Iraqi... but I care about Palastine & Palestinians people, and their diaspora....

I, like they, understand the feeling of being chased out of your own country, to live as a foreigner in some foreign country.

[Anglojew]

Naaah, I'm Iraqi... but I care about Palastine & Palestinians people, and their diaspora....

I, like they, understand the feeling of being chased out of your own country, to live as a foreigner in some foreign country.

I want all the Palestinians to return (who want to) and unite with Israel in an economic Federation

[LightHouse89]

The same as Jews want all the peoples of the world to move to America and blend with it. This is what they promote here along with a perverted 'Zionist' Televangical religion on tv which is a disgrace to my religion.

My people are the mockery of this century.

[Anglojew]

The same as Jews want all the peoples of the world to move to America and blend with it. This is what they promote here along with a perverted 'Zionist' Televangical religion on tv which is a disgrace to my religion.

My people are the mockery of this century.

I don't believe in mass non-western immigration or multiculturalism to the USA. Liberal American Jews often do but are Democrats. The Democrats are not Pro-Israel.

[lyllo]

no, they have Negro in them

[Anglojew]

no, they have Negro in them

Many don't. Technically all Med peoples (including Jews) have minor SSA admixture.

[Rædwald]

Loaded question, the poll.

[SupaThug]

Of course!

[randomguy1235]

Of course!

What about the 25-30% Pali Christians? Would you mind them converting?

[SupaThug]

What about the 25-30% Pali Christians? Would you mind them converting?

Don't take my comment seriously dude.Do you really think that I would like to force mulims to convert to judaism?I am not one of those anti-Islam morons of the West.

[samario]

Judaism? I don't get it.

Isn't Palestine the birthplace of Christianity? In which ways does Judaism differ from Christianity?

Either way, yes, I think they should convert to something else or become secular at the very best.

I'm fed up of Islam, it ruins countries.

[samario]

Palestinians should also make an effort to bring the Aramaic/Hebrew language back to life or whatever language used to be spoken in Palestine whilst they are at it. Going back to their roots to form a identity of their own is about the best they could do atm.

[samario]

Put simply, modern Jews are mainly the descendants of Hebrew males admixed with European (and other) females at some point in time, while Palestinians are mainly descended from Hebrew females admixed with Arabian (and other) males. Both peoples are closely related AND share much common ancestry. Almost amazingly, these two "enemies" fighting over the same land, Palestinians and Jews are actually one and the same people. Once Palestinians discard the layers of Arabisation and Islamisation, artificially forced onto them over time, Palestinians are once again allowed to re-hebrewise and re-Judaise.

This is false, though? I took a DNA test and I scored 0% Arabian ancestry. Anyway, I think Palestine and Israel, regardless of political and religious feuds, should get along better. Israel should help their brothers out in their search for peace and prosperity and also help install Western-friendly and global trade ideas. Islam is so backwards.

This would lead to the establishment of a very peaceful and prosperous nation, home to Jesus: Israel and Palestine. :) Far from Islam and closer to their true roots.

So I agree with the one-state solution.

[VigVagKesalt]

Fully support it and here I'm the first Palestinian to convert to Judaism! (LOL)

[Creoda]

Ironic coming from a Jew whose ancestors have refused to convert and integrate into Europe for 2000 years.

[Roy]

No.

[Odelia]

Judaism doesn't care much for converts and it doesn't need them. Palestinians rather should convert to Christianity or atheism, and maybe they'll be more prosperous and see good fortune. Islam will just destroy them more!

[sanhadji]

last time i saw a video of israelis they were saying palestinians are new comers mostly from egypt to enjoy the wealth of israel you don't live in israel obviously israelis wouldn't even joke about it
the smartest jews bet on the us like you probably do where they have all the power they no longer pay for these orthodox who have tons of children and live only with money from outside israel is doomed
yes, they should return to the religion and culture of their ancestors that's indigenous to Palestine = pagans can also be indigenous of palestine
No, they should continue to live under a artifical Arabised and Islamised non-indigenous identity = it apply even more to israelis who roamed everywhere before ending up there

[sanhadji]

last time i saw a video of israelis they were saying palestinians are new comers mostly from egypt to enjoy the wealth of israel you don't live in israel obviously israelis wouldn't even joke about it
the smartest jews bet on the us like you probably do where they have all the power they no longer pay for these orthodox who have tons of children and live only with money from outside israel is doomed
yes, they should return to the religion and culture of their ancestors that's indigenous to Palestine = pagans can also be indigenous of palestine
No, they should continue to live under a artifical Arabised and Islamised non-indigenous identity = it apply even more to israelis who roamed everywhere before ending up there