Romanianization

[Fakirbakir]

Why do a lot of Romanians have Hungarian surnames (they are not even aware of it sometimes)?

Also, I know from my experience that quite a lot of !ethnic! Romanians speak (shyly) in Hungarian.

I think these observations owe their existence (partially) to the assimilation of the Hungarian population. I think the answer has nothing to do with "multicultural"-bilingual cities in Romania. Under Communism, the Romanian political elite was quite Hungarophobic and the usage of Hungarian language was not welcomed. I remember that a bilingual (Hungarian-Romanian) board for a pharmacy was the cause for the ethnic violence in Tirgu Mures. I am well aware of the Magyarization process prior to 1920, however, I assume that the Romanianization has also been playing an important role in assimilating the racially and culturally diverse Transylvanian population since the change of Imperium (1920).

Is there any numbers about the assimilation rate of the Hungarian minority in Romania?

[Gabi]

Many Romanians from Transylvania can have Hungarian surnames because they have half or quarter Hungarian ancestry in them, but now they are considered ethnic Romanians since most of their first language they speak nowadays is Romanian.

[GERULA]

Why do a lot of Romanians have Hungarian surnames (they are not even aware of it sometimes)?

Also, I know from my experience that quite a lot of !ethnic! Romanians speak (shyly) in Hungarian.

I think these observations owe their existence (partially) to the assimilation of the Hungarian population. I think the answer has nothing to do with "multicultural"-bilingual cities in Romania. Under Communism, the Romanian political elite was quite Hungarophobic and the usage of Hungarian language was not welcomed. I remember that a bilingual (Hungarian-Romanian) board for a pharmacy was the cause for the ethnic violence in Tirgu Mures. I am well aware of the Magyarization process prior to 1920, however, I assume that the Romanianization has also been playing an important role in assimilating the racially and culturally diverse Transylvanian population since the change of Imperium (1920).

Is there any numbers about the assimilation rate of the Hungarian minority in Romania?

Can you produce a list with such names??

[Fakirbakir]

Can you produce a list with such names??

Romanianized Hungarian names, (they are only examples)

Agostin (< m. Ágoston), Ambrus, Andras (< m. András), Bălaj ~ Blaj (< m. Balázs), Balint (< m. Bálint), Caroli (< m. Ká¬roly), Fabian (< m. Fábián), Ferenţ (< m. Ferenc), Gabor (< m. Gábor), Ghiula ~ Julia ~ Djula (< m. Gyula), Ghergheli (< m. Gergely), Ianos (< m. János), Laslău (< m. László), Lorinţ (< m. Lőrinc), Miclăus (< m. Miklós), Semere (< m. Szemere), Sándor ~ Sandru (< m. Sándor), Simon (< m. Simon), Tămas (< m. Tamás), Tivadar (< m. Tivadar), Venţel (< m. Vencel), Vinţe (< m. Vince),, illetőleg Benţe (< m. Bence), Dani (< m. Dani), Jiga (< m. Zsiga) etc

Baboş (< m. Babos), Bolog (< m. Balog), Barna (< m. Barna), Bechis (< m. Békés), Bocicor (< m. Bocskor), Bodor (< m. Bodor), Bolund (< m. Bolond), Cioancă (< m. Csonka), Ciont (< m. Csont), Ciontos (< m. Csontos), Ciorba (< m. Csorba), Cherestes (< m. Keresztes), Chis (< m. Kis), Chici (< m. Kicsi), Chirali (< m. Király), Copos (< m. Kopasz), Cormos (< m. Kormos), Curta (< m. Kurta), Fărcaş (< m. Farkas), Fechete (< m. Fekete), Feier ~ Feher (< m. Fehér), Finta (< m. Finta), Ghienghe (< m. Gyenge), Gerheş (< m. Gerhes), Gomboţ (< m. Gombóc), Gulaş (< m. Gulyás), Heghieş (< m. Hegyes), Hărăguş (< m. Haragos), Hoca (< m. Hoka), Hossu (< m. Hosszú), Lobonţ (< m. Labanc), Mogoş (< m. Magas), Naghi (< m. Nagy), Nema (< m. Néma), Nemeş (< m. Nemes), Pipaş (< m. Pipás), Santa (< m. Sánta), Şuta (< m. Suta), Săcăluş (< m. Szakállas), Săbăduş (< m. Szabados), Sopora (< m. Szapora), Vaida (< m. Vajda), Vig (< m. Víg), Virag (< m. Virág) etc

Aciu (< m. Ács), Astăluş (< m. Asztalos), Baias (< Bányász), Bereş ~ Biriş (< m. Béres), Borbeli (< m. Borbély), Bordaş (< m. Bordás), Boroş (< m. Boros), Botoş (< m. Botos), Cadar (< m. Kádár), Calanioş (< m. Kalányos), Cantor (< m. Kántor), Caşaş (< m. Kásás), Cătană (< m. Katona), Checicheş (< m. Kecskés), Chindriş (< m. Kenderes), Ciatlăuş (< m. Csatlós), Cismaş (< m. Csizmás), Ciucaş (< m. Csukás), Cociş (< m. Kocsis), Colcear ~ Culcer (< m. Kulcsár), Cordoş (< m. Kardos), Covaci (< m. Kovács), Darabont (< m. Darabont), Deac (< m. Deák), Doboş (< m. Dobos), Dudaş (< m. Dudás), Ghialog (< m. Gyalog), Făzăcaş (< m. Fazekas), Halas (< m. Halász), Hegheduş (< m. Hegedűs), Henteş (< m. Hentes), Husar (< m. Huszár), Jeler ~ Jeleriu (< m. Zsellér), Lăcătuş (< m. Lakatos), Mesaroş (< m. Mészáros), Molnar (< m. Molnár), Nergheş (< m. Nyerges), Obşitoş (< Obsitos), Otveş (< m. Ötvös), Paler (< m. Pallér), Puscaş (< m. Puskás), Resmes ~ Rezmas ~ Resmiveş (< m. Rézműves), Rostaş (< m. Rostás), Şereş (< m. Seres), Şipoş (< m. Sipos), Şuteu (< m. Sütő), Socaciu (< m. Szakács), Suciu (< m. Szűcs), Sighiartău (< m. Szíjgyártó), Tocaciu (< m.Takács), Virginaş (< m. Virginás) etc

: Almaşi (< m. Almási), Beldi (< m. Béldi), Beltechi (< m. Bélteki), Chereji (< m. Körözsi), Chirvai (< m. Kirvai), Dolhai (< m. Dolhai), Dombi (< m. Đombi), Ieudi (< m. Jódi), Losonţi (< m. Losonci), Petrovai (< m. Petrovai), Satmari (< m. Szatmári), Sigheti (< m. Szigeti), Silaghi (< m. Szi¬¬¬lágyi), Tordai (< m. Tordai) etc.

Lenghel (< m. Lengyel), Olah (< m. Olá), Oros (< m. Orosz), Raţ ~ Raţiu (< m. Rác), Sas (< m. Szász), Secheli (< m. Székely), Tăut (< m. Tót) etc

[Iaaasi]

Romanianized Hungarian names, (they are only examples)

Simon (< m. Simon)


Ha ha, Simon is a Hungarian name in your view? I guess Simon the Zealot also was a Hebrewcized Magyar.

[blogen]

Ha ha, Simon is a Hungarian name in your view? I guess Simon the Zealot also was a Hebrewcized Magyar.

The Romanian version is Simion. The Simon is Hungarian, German or maybe East Slavic origin between the Romanians.

[Fakirbakir]

Ha ha, Simon is a Hungarian name in your view?

According to the linguist, slavist Jeno Janitsek.

[GERULA]

Romanianized Hungarian names, (they are only examples)

Agostin (< m. Ágoston), Ambrus, Andras (< m. András), Bălaj ~ Blaj (< m. Balázs), Balint (< m. Bálint), Caroli (< m. Ká¬roly), Fabian (< m. Fábián), Ferenţ (< m. Ferenc), Gabor (< m. Gábor), Ghiula ~ Julia ~ Djula (< m. Gyula), Ghergheli (< m. Gergely), Ianos (< m. János), Laslău (< m. László), Lorinţ (< m. Lőrinc), Miclăus (< m. Miklós), Semere (< m. Szemere), Sándor ~ Sandru (< m. Sándor), Simon (< m. Simon), Tămas (< m. Tamás), Tivadar (< m. Tivadar), Venţel (< m. Vencel), Vinţe (< m. Vince),, illetőleg Benţe (< m. Bence), Dani (< m. Dani), Jiga (< m. Zsiga) etc

Baboş (< m. Babos), Bolog (< m. Balog), Barna (< m. Barna), Bechis (< m. Békés), Bocicor (< m. Bocskor), Bodor (< m. Bodor), Bolund (< m. Bolond), Cioancă (< m. Csonka), Ciont (< m. Csont), Ciontos (< m. Csontos), Ciorba (< m. Csorba), Cherestes (< m. Keresztes), Chis (< m. Kis), Chici (< m. Kicsi), Chirali (< m. Király), Copos (< m. Kopasz), Cormos (< m. Kormos), Curta (< m. Kurta), Fărcaş (< m. Farkas), Fechete (< m. Fekete), Feier ~ Feher (< m. Fehér), Finta (< m. Finta), Ghienghe (< m. Gyenge), Gerheş (< m. Gerhes), Gomboţ (< m. Gombóc), Gulaş (< m. Gulyás), Heghieş (< m. Hegyes), Hărăguş (< m. Haragos), Hoca (< m. Hoka), Hossu (< m. Hosszú), Lobonţ (< m. Labanc), Mogoş (< m. Magas), Naghi (< m. Nagy), Nema (< m. Néma), Nemeş (< m. Nemes), Pipaş (< m. Pipás), Santa (< m. Sánta), Şuta (< m. Suta), Săcăluş (< m. Szakállas), Săbăduş (< m. Szabados), Sopora (< m. Szapora), Vaida (< m. Vajda), Vig (< m. Víg), Virag (< m. Virág) etc

Aciu (< m. Ács), Astăluş (< m. Asztalos), Baias (< Bányász), Bereş ~ Biriş (< m. Béres), Borbeli (< m. Borbély), Bordaş (< m. Bordás), Boroş (< m. Boros), Botoş (< m. Botos), Cadar (< m. Kádár), Calanioş (< m. Kalányos), Cantor (< m. Kántor), Caşaş (< m. Kásás), Cătană (< m. Katona), Checicheş (< m. Kecskés), Chindriş (< m. Kenderes), Ciatlăuş (< m. Csatlós), Cismaş (< m. Csizmás), Ciucaş (< m. Csukás), Cociş (< m. Kocsis), Colcear ~ Culcer (< m. Kulcsár), Cordoş (< m. Kardos), Covaci (< m. Kovács), Darabont (< m. Darabont), Deac (< m. Deák), Doboş (< m. Dobos), Dudaş (< m. Dudás), Ghialog (< m. Gyalog), Făzăcaş (< m. Fazekas), Halas (< m. Halász), Hegheduş (< m. Hegedűs), Henteş (< m. Hentes), Husar (< m. Huszár), Jeler ~ Jeleriu (< m. Zsellér), Lăcătuş (< m. Lakatos), Mesaroş (< m. Mészáros), Molnar (< m. Molnár), Nergheş (< m. Nyerges), Obşitoş (< Obsitos), Otveş (< m. Ötvös), Paler (< m. Pallér), Puscaş (< m. Puskás), Resmes ~ Rezmas ~ Resmiveş (< m. Rézműves), Rostaş (< m. Rostás), Şereş (< m. Seres), Şipoş (< m. Sipos), Şuteu (< m. Sütő), Socaciu (< m. Szakács), Suciu (< m. Szűcs), Sighiartău (< m. Szíjgyártó), Tocaciu (< m.Takács), Virginaş (< m. Virginás) etc

: Almaşi (< m. Almási), Beldi (< m. Béldi), Beltechi (< m. Bélteki), Chereji (< m. Körözsi), Chirvai (< m. Kirvai), Dolhai (< m. Dolhai), Dombi (< m. Đombi), Ieudi (< m. Jódi), Losonţi (< m. Losonci), Petrovai (< m. Petrovai), Satmari (< m. Szatmári), Sigheti (< m. Szigeti), Silaghi (< m. Szi¬¬¬lágyi), Tordai (< m. Tordai) etc.

Lenghel (< m. Lengyel), Olah (< m. Olá), Oros (< m. Orosz), Raţ ~ Raţiu (< m. Rác), Sas (< m. Szász), Secheli (< m. Székely), Tăut (< m. Tót) etc

It now became very clear to me that you guys have completely lost your marbles....you know..sometimes is good to pay a visit to a psychiatrist...your collective obsession to claim everything on this planet..and maybe other planets..who knows..lol..is of hungarian origin...is beyond laughable now...

[Fakirbakir]

It now became very clear to me that you guys have completely lost your marbles....you know..sometimes is good to pay a visit to a psychiatrist...your collective obsession to claim everything on this planet..and maybe other planets..who knows..lol..is of hungarian origin...is beyond laughable now...

The linguist Janitsek was a Romanian scholar of Hungarian origin from Cluj. You should know your own scholars' works.

[Antimage]

a lot of ethnic slovaks have hungarian surnames and it seems romanians too. of course they don't like that and will try to deny it

but i don't really care. we also assimilated a lot of them during the time of great-hungary. we are mixed with them and they are mixed with us

[Iaaasi]

The linguist Janitsek was a Romanian scholar of Hungarian origin from Cluj. You should know your own scholars' works.

It's funny that, although we talk about a Magyar author and a work written in Hungarian language ("A magyar eredetű román családnevekről"), you affirm that this is "gerula's scholar"

[Fakirbakir]

It's funny that, although we talk about a Magyar author and a work written in Hungarian language ("A magyar eredetű román családnevekről"), you affirm that this is "gerula's scholar"

I am pretty sure you are able to find this study in Romanian too. He taught at the university in Cluj and contributed to many linguistic magazines, books ( Limba Română, Cercetări de lingvistică, Studia, Studii şi materiale onomastice; Studii şi cercetări onomastice; Probleme onomastice etc.)