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paksaltopam
01-01-2015, 05:13 AM
Just got my cousin's 23andme back and he is a direct male descendent of my grandfather from Trapani Sicily. His YDNA is J2a1b1*...is this typical? Anyone know any more info about it or also have it in their family?

Sikeliot
01-01-2015, 05:31 AM
It's Greek! J2a1b1* is generally associated with ancient Greek colonization, and is common in southern Italy, Greece, and western Turkey.

Sikeliot
01-01-2015, 06:21 AM
Also, I am sharing with 6 people with this haplogroup.. 1 Turk, 2 Greeks (one Cretan, one Dodecanese), and 3 Italians (one Campanian and two Sicilians).

paksaltopam
01-03-2015, 02:49 AM
It's Greek! J2a1b1* is generally associated with ancient Greek colonization, and is common in southern Italy, Greece, and western Turkey.

It's funny my top match with this haplogroup matches my dad's side and is from Lithuania.

Sikeliot
01-03-2015, 03:01 AM
What is your cousin's full ancestry? Is he fully southern Italian?

paksaltopam
01-03-2015, 06:28 AM
What is your cousin's full ancestry? Is he fully southern Italian?

No he's 75% and 25% swedish

Tiberio
01-03-2015, 08:05 AM
Greeks of Selinunte, easy.

Köstebek
08-09-2017, 11:35 PM
Just got my cousin's 23andme back and he is a direct male descendent of my grandfather from Trapani Sicily. His YDNA is J2a1b1*...is this typical? Anyone know any more info about it or also have it in their family?

My family is the same. From blacksea region of Turkey (that part of family greek speaking), Turkish

Sikeliot
08-09-2017, 11:52 PM
My family is the same. From blacksea region of Turkey (that part of family greek speaking), Turkish

Haplogroup could be in Sicily due to the Elymians, who settled Trapani and were relatives of Trojans and Hittites.

Köstebek
08-09-2017, 11:57 PM
Haplogroup could be in Sicily due to the Elymians, who settled Trapani and were relatives of Trojans and Hittites.

Maybe. But there was Greek speaking parts in Sicilia, some might come later on. M92 has its roots in west Anatolia btw. She also needs that info.

Sikeliot
08-09-2017, 11:59 PM
Maybe. But there was Greek speaking parts in Sicilia, some might come later on. M92 has its roots in west Anatolia btw. She also needs that info.

Trapani received its Greek influence secondhand, from the gradual Hellenization of the island moving from Syracuse westward. So I do not know.

Köstebek
08-10-2017, 12:11 AM
Trapani received its Greek influence secondhand, from the gradual Hellenization of the island moving from Syracuse westward. So I do not know.

It makes sense it comes to Italy before Greek language of M92, because M92 is more crowded in Italy than Crete and Turkey (and not only in Sicilia). So, they maybe left to there earlier with large number of people

Coolguy1
08-11-2017, 03:49 AM
My family is the same. From blacksea region of Turkey (that part of family greek speaking), Turkish

Your family speaks Romeika at home?

Köstebek
08-11-2017, 04:11 AM
Your family speaks Romeika at home?

Grands used to. (one side). Do you know that language? Weird to see a European who knows whats that