Eurogenes K8 Results

[Black Wolf]

My results. I think they make a lot of sense and it looks like overall I have more hunter-gatherer genes than farmer. I count both the WHG and ANE components as hunter-gatherer components as neither of them were part of the early Neolithic farming populations that have origins in the Near East. I know that the ANE component came to Europe mainly after the Neolithic but it has it's origins among Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic Siberian hunter-gatherers most likely so that is why I am calling it a hunter-gatherer component. So when I add my WHG and ANE scores together I actually have overall more Upper Paleolithic/Mesolithic genes from European and Siberian origin hunter-gatherers than Neolithic farmer genes which are represented by the Near_Eastern component. Interesting stuff! :D

ANE 0.143191
South_Eurasian 0.020643
Near_Eastern 0.419885
East_Eurasian 0.009484
WHG 0.398153
Oceanian 0.00822
Pygmy 0.000415
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Lower-bound NE

ANE 0.141497
South_Eurasian 0.022145
Near_Eastern 0.386466
East_Eurasian 0.010388
WHG 0.429544
Oceanian 0.008904
Pygmy 0.001046
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

http://bga101.blogspot.ca/

http://eurogenes.blogspot.ca/2014/12/crowdfunding-for-2015-new-test.html

[Thrax]

So do you have to pay to run this test?

[Longbowman]

How does one get one's results?

[Black Wolf]

So do you have to pay to run this test?

Yes you do. $20.00 US will do it.

[Longbowman]

ANE 0.086592
South_Eurasian 1E-005
Near_Eastern 0.679224
East_Eurasian 0.021113
WHG 0.192
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.003569
Sub-Saharan 0.017481




Lower bound NE

ANE 0.085864
South_Eurasian 1E-005
Near_Eastern 0.663299
East_Eurasian 0.021095
WHG 0.209194
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.003588
Sub-Saharan 0.01694

Plotting firmly in the Southern European cluster.

[Not a Cop]

ANE 0.086592
South_Eurasian 1E-005
Near_Eastern 0.679224
East_Eurasian 0.021113
WHG 0.192
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.003569
Sub-Saharan 0.017481




Lower bound NE

ANE 0.085864
South_Eurasian 1E-005
Near_Eastern 0.663299
East_Eurasian 0.021095
WHG 0.209194
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.003588
Sub-Saharan 0.01694

Plotting firmly in the Southern European cluster.

Interesting, you score more E. Eurasian, than any non-northern russian, exept one, wonder where did you got it from.

[Gaston]

Interesting, you score more E. Eurasian, than any non-northern russian, exept one, wonder where did you got it from.

MENA people get usually ~2% East Eurasian noise. Probably some Basal Eurasian signal.

Some Africans get also some ANE noise interestingly.

[Longbowman]

MENA people get usually ~2% East Eurasian noise. Probably some Basal Eurasian signal.

Some Africans get also some ANE noise interestingly.

Southern Europeans aren't MENA. I've always scored highly for East Asian on GEDmatch runs. Perhaps a Tartar ancestor?

I'll go through the population averages spreadsheet tonight.

[Not a Cop]

Southern Europeans aren't MENA. I've always scored highly for East Asian on GEDmatch runs. Perhaps a Tartar ancestor?

I'll go through the population averages spreadsheet tonight.

This tatar ancestor should've been your g-grandfather in that case, considering level of E. Eurasian of Tatars.

[Graham]

Here are some older ones to compare..
Loschbour (Mesolithic)

ANE 0
South_Eurasian 0
Near_Eastern 0
East_Eurasian 0
WHG 99.5
Oceanian 0.5
Pygmy 0
Sub-Saharan 0

Stuttgart (Neolithic)

ANE 0
South_Eurasian 0
Near_Eastern 72.19
East_Eurasian 0
WHG 27.8
Oceanian 0
Pygmy 0
Sub-Saharan 0

NE1 (Neolithic)

ANE 0
South_Eurasian 0
Near_Eastern 69.82
East_Eurasian 0
WHG 30.17
Oceanian 0
Pygmy 0
Sub-Saharan 0

BR2 (Bronze Age)

ANE 9.62
South_Eurasian 0.08
Near_Eastern 43.96
East_Eurasian 0
WHG 45.44
Oceanian 0.48
Pygmy 0.23
Sub-Saharan 0.19

Hinxton4 (Iron Age)

ANE 15.08
South_Eurasian 0.06
Near_Eastern 35.44
East_Eurasian 0.46
WHG 48.5
Oceanian 0
Pygmy 0
Sub-Saharan 0.46

[Nerdryk]

MENA people get usually ~2% East Eurasian noise. Probably some Basal Eurasian signal.

Some Africans get also some ANE noise interestingly.


2% is usually too high to be noise, especially if the number is consistent across tests. Some Mongoloid EDAR is present in the Middle East, and there seems to be some Ancestral South Indian in the Middle East. Basal admixture has an anti-East Eurasian effect.

[Not a Cop]

Plotting firmly in the Southern European cluster.


My results.


How much ANE do you guys score in ANE K7? Interested to see how well do thoose calcs correlate.

[Gaston]

2% is usually too high to be noise, especially if the number is consistent across tests. Some Mongoloid EDAR is present in the Middle East, and there seems to be some Ancestral South Indian in the Middle East. Basal admixture has an anti-East Eurasian effect.

Might be true for some West Asians indeed since East Eurasian influences aren't rare. But David stated it was noise for Middle Easterners and North Africans who don't score any East/South Asian in previous tests.

[Longbowman]

This tatar ancestor should've been your g-grandfather in that case, considering level of E. Eurasian of Tatars.

I'm working through Davidski's population spreadsheet and getting accurate averages right now.

[Longbowman]

2% is usually too high to be noise, especially if the number is consistent across tests. Some Mongoloid EDAR is present in the Middle East, and there seems to be some Ancestral South Indian in the Middle East. Basal admixture has an anti-East Eurasian effect.

Very true. However, I'm not Middle Eastern, and I have Eastern European ancestry, which is a more satisfying explanation.

[Longbowman]

How much ANE do you guys score in ANE K7? Interested to see how well do thoose calcs correlate.

9.2

[Nerdryk]

Very true. However, I'm not Middle Eastern, and I have Eastern European ancestry, which is a more satisfying explanation.

Yeah, sorry, I wasn't talking about you specifically. I think Ashkenazi and Ukrainians have roughly the same E. Eurasian affinities, percentage-wise, though probably from different sources.

[Longbowman]

Yeah, sorry, I wasn't talking about you specifically. I think Ashkenazi and Ukrainians have roughly the same E. Eurasian affinities, percentage-wise, though probably from different sources.

Davidski's AJ average (n=19) is 1.37% EEA. I haven't got to Ukrainians yet

[Sea Warrior]

My results:

ANE 0.133893
South_Eurasian 0.003692
Near_Eastern 0.405507
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.455897
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.000981
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Lower bound NE

ANE 0.132436
South_Eurasian 0.006406
Near_Eastern 0.367406
East_Eurasian 0.00033
WHG 0.491493
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.001909
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

[Thrax]

Waiting for my results right now

[Graham]

Davidski's AJ average (n=19) is 1.37% EEA. I haven't got to Ukrainians yet

Aren't AJ scores similar to South Italians on other runs. how does this compare? You and Mark tend to be like that too I think.

[Longbowman]

Aren't AJ scores similar to South Italians on other runs. how does this compare? You and Mark tend to be like that too I think.

I'm averaging out all the populations on the population spreadsheet. I haven't got to South Italians but AJs are ANE: 8.44%, SEA: 0.85%, Near Eastern: 68.10%, EEA: 1.37%, WHG: 18.55%, Oceanian: 0.40%, Pygmy:, 0.21% SSA: 2.07%. Bear in mind I'm not a pure AJ.

[Graham]

I'm averaging out all the populations on the population spreadsheet. I haven't got to South Italians but AJs are ANE: 8.44%, SEA: 0.85%, Near Eastern: 68.10%, EEA: 1.37%, WHG: 18.55%, Oceanian: 0.40%, Pygmy:, 0.21% SSA: 2.07%. Bear in mind I'm not a pure AJ.

Ok So South Italian is still close. That extra SSA that possibly Sicilians would score too. AJ & Sicily would sit close.

ANE 8.08%
South_Eurasian 00.85%
Near_Eastern 69.32%
East_Eurasian 00.21%
WHG 20.00%
Oceanian 00.25%
Pygmy 00.50%
Sub-Saharan 00.79%

[Jackson]

Here's mine:

ANE: 14.08%
South Eurasian: 0.41%
Near Eastern: 41.87%
East Eurasian: 0%
WHG: 42.85%
Oceanian: 0.21%
Pygmy: 0%
Sub-Saharan: 0.57%

Here's my position on the map, basically at the southern-central end of the NW European group:

http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/Brodir93/UK42a.png

[Black Wolf]

I have had some personal correspondence with David about this test and he believes (like I do) that by adding together your WHG and ANE scores you can get your sum total of West_Eurasian/European Mesolithic hunter-gatherer ancestry. Here is what he said to me when I asked him about this.

''Yes, it makes sense to add ANE and WHG to find the overall indigenous European score.''

[Graham]

jackson. I only kept the French that were closer to the English.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/jackson_zpsaab3b662.png~original

[Jackson]

jackson. I only kept the French that were closer to the English.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/jackson_zpsaab3b662.png~original

Cheers!

Looks like i've got company on that map. :D

[Longbowman]

Ok So South Italian is still close. That extra SSA that possibly Sicilians would score too. AJ & Sicily would sit close.

ANE 8.08%
South_Eurasian 00.85%
Near_Eastern 69.32%
East_Eurasian 00.21%
WHG 20.00%
Oceanian 00.25%
Pygmy 00.50%
Sub-Saharan 00.79%

Hey, forgot to say: he has East Sicilian, Central Sicilian and Western Sicilian. I was kind of occupied but yeah. Sicilian exists. I'm almost done so I'll post the averages in like 30 minutes.

[Graham]

Cheers!

Looks like i've got company on that map. :D

You score the second lowest WHG for any British person & the fourth highest Near East. ANE is average.

[Longbowman]

Knocked up some population averages. (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?154160-Selected-population-averages-for-K8&p=3275865#post3275865)

[Mortimer]

wait where can i get this

[Longbowman]

wait where can i get this

Eurogenes blog.

[Mortimer]

Eurogenes blog.

i dont know how, ill wait until it is on gedmatch

[Longbowman]

i dont know how, ill wait until it is on gedmatch

You pay him. So I guess you may be waiting a long while.

[Hevo]

I can do the oracle 4+ Gaussian method for you guys if you are interested.

[Thrax]

Finally my results are available:

ANE 0.108542
South_Eurasian 0.005977
Near_Eastern 0.611825
East_Eurasian 1.2E-005
WHG 0.267027
Oceanian 0.006597
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005




Lower bound NE

ANE 0.107292
South_Eurasian 0.006618
Near_Eastern 0.58873
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.29045
Oceanian 0.00688
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

[Longbowman]

I can do the oracle 4+ Gaussian method for you guys if you are interested.

Please :)

[Longbowman]

Map of ANE in Europe

http://i62.tinypic.com/e66a9j.png

ANE peaks in Dagestan and has no presence in Sardinia or Western North Africa.

Iranian Jewish: 14, Iraqi Jewish: 12, AJ: 8.4, Georgian Jewish: 8.3, SJ: 7.3

[Longbowman]

Me:

http://i58.tinypic.com/sy7btd.png

http://i57.tinypic.com/1zokk6v.png

[Hevo]

Please :)

Here you go.


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 1,480674
2 South_Italian @ 2,776789
3 Central_Sicilian @ 3,004225
4 East_Sicilian @ 3,333726
5 West_Sicilian @ 4,470579
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 5,819147
7 Sephardic_Jewish @ 6,094853
8 Central_Greek @ 7,835036
9 Greek @ 8,3478
10 Tuscan @ 12,699025
11 Greek_Thessaly @ 12,720042
12 Cyprian @ 12,808077
13 Stuttgart @ 13,129496
14 Turkish @ 14,03387
15 Neolithic_Hungary @ 14,324917
16 Kosovar @ 15,407574
17 Lebanese_Muslim @ 15,93227
18 Syrian @ 17,421122
19 Druze @ 18,020376
20 Sardinian @ 18,08075
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Samaritan+Serbian @ 1,275848
2 Ashkenazi+Ashkenazi @ 1,480674
3 Montenegrin+Samaritan @ 1,532463
4 Ashkenazi+South_Italian @ 1,801919
5 Ashkenazi+Central_Sicilian @ 1,843474
6 Italian_Abruzzo+Sephardic_Jewish @ 1,876934
7 Ashkenazi+East_Sicilian @ 1,95051
8 Central_Greek+Sephardic_Jewish @ 2,045558
9 Greek+Sephardic_Jewish @ 2,138439
10 Romanian+Samaritan @ 2,232012
11 Neolithic_Hungary+Turkish @ 2,299866
12 Sephardic_Jewish+West_Sicilian @ 2,333056
13 Druze+North_Italian @ 2,355033
14 Lebanese_Christian+Romanian @ 2,3723
15 Bulgarian+Lebanese_Christian @ 2,372613
16 Ashkenazi+West_Sicilian @ 2,378499
17 Macedonian+Samaritan @ 2,403349
18 Lebanese_Christian+Macedonian @ 2,419681
19 Bosnian+Samaritan @ 2,46822
20 Iraqi_Jewish+Spanish_Andalucia @ 2,482554
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Samaritan +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Polish_Estonian @ 1,126677
2 50% Samaritan +25% Polish_Estonian +25% West_Sicilian @ 1,129629
3 50% Samaritan +25% Estonian +25% South_Italian @ 1,130855
4 50% Samaritan +25% Finnish +25% South_Italian @ 1,145843
5 50% Samaritan +25% Ashkenazi +25% Lithuanian @ 1,14755
6 50% Samaritan +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 1,165689
7 50% Ashkenazi +25% Samaritan +25% Serbian @ 1,179861
8 50% Samaritan +25% Greek +25% Russian_Voronez @ 1,19064
9 50% Samaritan +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Russian_Orel @ 1,219188
10 50% Samaritan +25% Belorussian +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1,224673
11 50% Samaritan +25% Russian_Smolensk +25% West_Sicilian @ 1,225891
12 50% Samaritan +25% Central_Greek +25% Hinxton4 @ 1,226285
13 50% Samaritan +25% Ashkenazi +25% Estonian @ 1,229656
14 50% Samaritan +25% Greek +25% Russian_Orel @ 1,235644
15 50% Samaritan +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Russian_Voronez @ 1,240709
16 50% Samaritan +25% Central_Sicilian +25% Estonian @ 1,248536
17 50% Samaritan +25% East_Sicilian +25% Polish_Estonian @ 1,257786
18 50% Samaritan +25% Central_Sicilian +25% Finnish @ 1,264951
19 50% Samaritan +25% Serbian +25% Serbian @ 1,275848
20 50% Samaritan +25% Greek +25% Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,287505
1281576 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Italian_Abruzzo+Polish_Estonian+Samaritan+Samarita n @ 1,126677
2 Polish_Estonian+Samaritan+Samaritan+West_Sicilian @ 1,129629
3 Estonian+Samaritan+Samaritan+South_Italian @ 1,130855
4 Finnish+Samaritan+Samaritan+South_Italian @ 1,145843
5 Ashkenazi+Lithuanian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,14755
6 Italian_Abruzzo+Russian_Smolensk+Samaritan+Samarit an @ 1,165689
7 Ashkenazi+Ashkenazi+Samaritan+Serbian @ 1,179861
8 Greek+Russian_Voronez+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,19064
9 Italian_Abruzzo+Russian_Orel+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,219188
10 Belorussian+Italian_Abruzzo+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,224673
11 Russian_Smolensk+Samaritan+Samaritan+West_Sicilian @ 1,225891
12 Central_Greek+Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,226285
13 Ashkenazi+Estonian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,229656
14 Greek+Russian_Orel+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,235644
15 Italian_Abruzzo+Russian_Voronez+Samaritan+Samarita n @ 1,240709
16 Central_Sicilian+Estonian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,248536
17 East_Sicilian+Polish_Estonian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,257786
18 Central_Sicilian+Finnish+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,264951
19 Ashkenazi+Romanian+Samaritan+West_Sicilian @ 1,267648
20 Samaritan+Samaritan+Serbian+Serbian @ 1,275848
21 Ashkenazi+Hinxton4+Lebanese_Christian+Samaritan @ 1,281116
22 Greek+Samaritan+Samaritan+Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,287505
23 Greek+Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,289655
24 Romanian+Samaritan+Samaritan+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,290656
25 Ashkenazi+Ashkenazi+Montenegrin+Samaritan @ 1,294932
26 Ashkenazi+Hungarian+Samaritan+Sephardic_Jewish @ 1,300361
27 Belorussian+Samaritan+Samaritan+West_Sicilian @ 1,300669
28 Greek+Samaritan+Samaritan+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,302607
29 Ashkenazi+Italian_Abruzzo+Romanian+Samaritan @ 1,307491
30 Italian_Abruzzo+Polish+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,310708
31 Bosnian+Romanian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,310808
32 Ashkenazi+Croatian+Samaritan+Sephardic_Jewish @ 1,318436
33 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,321013
34 Croatian+Romanian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,321915
35 Greek+Samaritan+Samaritan+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,323617
36 Central_Sicilian+Polish_Estonian+Samaritan+Samarit an @ 1,32621
37 Russian_Orel+Samaritan+Samaritan+West_Sicilian @ 1,326594
38 Lithuanian+Samaritan+Samaritan+South_Italian @ 1,328356
39 Montenegrin+Samaritan+Samaritan+Serbian @ 1,329557
40 Greek+Norwegian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 1,33295
6578702 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ashkenazi @ 4,239608
2 East_Sicilian @ 4,770764
3 Central_Sicilian @ 4,82131
4 Sephardic_Jewish @ 4,883459
5 West_Sicilian @ 5,206591
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 5,336198
7 South_Italian @ 5,35378
8 Greek @ 6,440566
9 Central_Greek @ 6,783409
10 Tuscan @ 7,058741
11 Cyprian @ 7,112288
12 Greek_Thessaly @ 7,40224
13 Spanish_Murcia @ 8,426311
14 Kosovar @ 8,603132
15 Spanish_Baleares @ 8,638674
16 North_Italian @ 8,702267
17 Spanish_Andalucia @ 8,760787
18 Spanish_Canarias @ 8,932029
19 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 9,05644
20 Bulgarian @ 9,088977
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Montenegrin+Samaritan @ 3,244297
2 North_Italian+Samaritan @ 3,395762
3 Macedonian+Samaritan @ 3,423818
4 Samaritan+Serbian @ 3,427655
5 Romanian+Samaritan @ 3,435627
6 French+Samaritan @ 3,451837
7 Samaritan+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3,58201
8 Samaritan+Spanish_Baleares @ 3,599049
9 Samaritan+Spanish_Valencia @ 3,602049
10 Samaritan+Spanish_Aragon @ 3,646566
11 Bulgarian+Samaritan @ 3,674981
12 Samaritan+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,714572
13 Samaritan+Spanish_Cantabria @ 3,728286
14 Samaritan+Spanish_Andalucia @ 3,749831
15 Samaritan+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,793571
16 Hungarian+Samaritan @ 3,816838
17 Croatian+Samaritan @ 3,828208
18 Kosovar+Samaritan @ 3,832987
19 Samaritan+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,873279
20 Samaritan+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,89634
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Samaritan +25% Hinxton4 +25% Stuttgart @ 2,864456
2 50% Samaritan +25% Greek +25% Hinxton4 @ 2,870378
3 50% Samaritan +25% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,88672
4 50% Samaritan +25% Hinxton4 +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2,918233
5 50% Samaritan +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tuscan @ 2,925722
6 50% Samaritan +25% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian @ 3,060904
7 50% Samaritan +25% Central_Greek +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,084223
8 50% Samaritan +25% French +25% North_Italian @ 3,117407
9 50% Samaritan +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,124015
10 50% Samaritan +25% Russian_Orel +25% Stuttgart @ 3,146003
11 50% Samaritan +25% Hungarian +25% North_Italian @ 3,15369
12 50% Samaritan +25% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar @ 3,155537
13 50% Samaritan +25% Romanian +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,157164
14 50% Samaritan +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Russian_Orel @ 3,159567
15 50% Samaritan +25% Hinxton4 +25% Sardinian @ 3,174266
16 50% Samaritan +25% Tuscan +25% West_Scottish @ 3,177464
17 50% Samaritan +25% Greek +25% West_Scottish @ 3,1792
18 50% Samaritan +25% Montenegrin +25% North_Italian @ 3,183795
19 50% Samaritan +25% Central_Sicilian +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,186311
20 50% Samaritan +25% Montenegrin +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,189765
1825392 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan+Stuttgart @ 2,864456
2 Greek+Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 2,870378
3 Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 2,88672
4 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 2,918233
5 Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan+Tuscan @ 2,925722
6 Hinxton4+North_Italian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,060904
7 Central_Greek+Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,084223
8 French+North_Italian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,117407
9 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,124015
10 Russian_Orel+Samaritan+Samaritan+Stuttgart @ 3,146003
11 Hungarian+North_Italian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,15369
12 Hinxton4+Kosovar+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,155537
13 Romanian+Samaritan+Samaritan+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,157164
14 Neolithic_Hungary+Russian_Orel+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,159567
15 Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan+Sardinian @ 3,174266
16 Samaritan+Samaritan+Tuscan+West_Scottish @ 3,177464
17 Greek+Samaritan+Samaritan+West_Scottish @ 3,1792
18 Montenegrin+North_Italian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,183795
19 Central_Sicilian+Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,186311
20 Montenegrin+Samaritan+Samaritan+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,189765
21 Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan+West_Sicilian @ 3,193319
22 French+Samaritan+Samaritan+Tuscan @ 3,196207
23 Kosovar+Samaritan+Samaritan+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,221101
24 Hungarian+Samaritan+Samaritan+Tuscan @ 3,223483
25 Neolithic_Hungary+Samaritan+Samaritan+West_Scottis h @ 3,224593
26 Macedonian+Samaritan+Samaritan+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,227996
27 Russian_Voronez+Samaritan+Samaritan+Stuttgart @ 3,230069
28 East_Sicilian+Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,232966
29 Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan+South_Italian @ 3,233415
30 Montenegrin+Samaritan+Samaritan+Spanish_Castilla_L a_Mancha @ 3,233514
31 Greek+Orcadian+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,234535
32 North_Italian+Samaritan+Samaritan+West_Scottish @ 3,235627
33 Ashkenazi+Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,238659
34 North_Italian+Samaritan+Samaritan+Serbian @ 3,23909
35 Neolithic_Hungary+Russian_Voronez+Samaritan+Samari tan @ 3,240354
36 French+Kosovar+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,241722
37 Russian_Smolensk+Samaritan+Samaritan+Stuttgart @ 3,242852
38 Montenegrin+Montenegrin+Samaritan+Samaritan @ 3,244297
39 Orcadian+Samaritan+Samaritan+Tuscan @ 3,244582
40 Greek+Samaritan+Samaritan+SE_English @ 3,246573
18124353 iterations.

[Longbowman]

Here you go.


Hinxton4+Samaritan+Samaritan+Stuttgart

My favourite.

Samaritan stronk! True Judaean. Or mixed Judaean North-Central European which is interesting.

[Longbowman]

ANE colour coded going up every 2.5%.

http://i57.tinypic.com/23w2vr8.png

[Longbowman]

Near East in Europe:

http://i62.tinypic.com/ou2nh0.png

[Black Wolf]

ANE 0.086592
South_Eurasian 1E-005
Near_Eastern 0.679224
East_Eurasian 0.021113
WHG 0.192
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.003569
Sub-Saharan 0.017481




Lower bound NE

ANE 0.085864
South_Eurasian 1E-005
Near_Eastern 0.663299
East_Eurasian 0.021095
WHG 0.209194
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.003588
Sub-Saharan 0.01694

Plotting firmly in the Southern European cluster.

Neolithic farmer ancestry is very stronk in you. Although of course you do have around 27% or so Mesolithic hunter-gatherer ancestry too. :)

[Longbowman]

Neolithic farmer ancestry is very stronk in you. Although of course you do have around 27% or so Mesolithic hunter-gatherer ancestry too. :)

I make it 28-29 even at the upper bound NE plus significant EEA but yes. Pure Judaean. Gib Palestine.

[Longbowman]

Near East, coloured, going up in 10s.

http://i60.tinypic.com/2zfqxpt.png

[Thrax]

I can do the oracle 4+ Gaussian method for you guys if you are interested.

I'd also love to

[Longbowman]

WHG:

http://i58.tinypic.com/9t332t.png

[Thrax]

And my triangles:

http://i62.tinypic.com/1zmmhqb.jpg
http://i59.tinypic.com/kb643s.jpg

[Longbowman]

WHG coloured map:

http://i61.tinypic.com/4zvlh3.png

[Hevo]

I'd also love to


I am on my mobile right now i will do it later this evening.

[Jackson]

You score the second lowest WHG for any British person & the fourth highest Near East. ANE is average.

Yeah it's interesting, i noticed that my WHG is more unusual than my Near East, so perhaps some of it also went to the minor categories <1% too?

It's interesting though my position as if i ever find out what my foreign ancestry is and how much of it there is it will be easier to understand my position.

[Jackson]

Just realised i forgot to post my second PCA:
http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu7/Brodir93/UK42b.png

[Longbowman]

All other maps are on my thread, with my population averages.

[Hevo]

I'd also love to


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 2,096599
2 Greek @ 2,790163
3 Central_Greek @ 3,259246
4 Tuscan @ 3,415314
5 Kosovar @ 4,751845
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 5,421687
7 West_Sicilian @ 7,253513
8 East_Sicilian @ 8,667908
9 North_Italian @ 9,27041
10 Central_Sicilian @ 9,415287
11 Bulgarian @ 10,496906
12 South_Italian @ 11,028693
13 Ashkenazi @ 11,30414
14 Macedonian @ 11,339358
15 Romanian @ 11,469496
16 Spanish_Murcia @ 12,863976
17 Spanish_Baleares @ 13,255636
18 Montenegrin @ 13,686718
19 Sardinian @ 13,901463
20 Spanish_Canarias @ 13,949324
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Greek+Greek_Thessaly @ 0,85585
2 Central_Greek+Greek_Thessaly @ 0,907337
3 Central_Greek+Kosovar @ 1,014457
4 Italian_Abruzzo+Kosovar @ 1,073468
5 Macedonian+South_Italian @ 1,085658
6 Romanian+South_Italian @ 1,120397
7 Bulgarian+South_Italian @ 1,155288
8 Cyprian+Hungarian @ 1,232259
9 Croatian+Cyprian @ 1,294659
10 Greek+Kosovar @ 1,385308
11 Cyprian+French @ 1,579191
12 Lebanese_Christian+Orcadian @ 1,611971
13 Central_Greek+Tuscan @ 1,658304
14 Georgian_Imer+Gokhem2 @ 1,752198
15 Cyprian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,752251
16 Ashkenazi+Macedonian @ 1,768829
17 Lebanese_Christian+SE_English @ 1,772695
18 Montenegrin+South_Italian @ 1,777327
19 Lebanese_Christian+West_Scottish @ 1,791591
20 Lebanese_Christian+SW_English @ 1,841688
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Macedonian @ 0,598949
2 50% Central_Greek +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Kosovar @ 0,676563
3 50% Central_Greek +25% Cyprian +25% SE_English @ 0,68541
4 50% Central_Greek +25% Cyprian +25% SW_English @ 0,710416
5 50% Kosovar +25% Cyprian +25% Montenegrin @ 0,726797
6 50% Central_Greek +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Romanian @ 0,730241
7 50% Greek +25% Bulgarian +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 0,73123
8 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Central_Greek +25% Montenegrin @ 0,731437
9 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Armenian +25% Cyprian @ 0,73146
10 50% Greek +25% Cyprian +25% Utah_German @ 0,734147
11 50% Tuscan +25% Armenian +25% LBA_Hungary @ 0,734822
12 50% Montenegrin +25% Cyprian +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 0,744753
13 50% Tuscan +25% Basque_French +25% Georgian_Imer @ 0,745133
14 50% Central_Greek +25% Cyprian +25% Orcadian @ 0,755233
15 50% Montenegrin +25% Central_Greek +25% Cyprian @ 0,755823
16 50% Greek +25% Cyprian +25% SE_English @ 0,758442
17 50% Greek +25% Cyprian +25% Utah_USA @ 0,761023
18 50% Greek +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Romanian @ 0,76308
19 50% Central_Greek +25% Cyprian +25% Utah_German @ 0,765534
20 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Cyprian +25% Norwegian @ 0,774698
1056673 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Central_Greek+Central_Greek+Italian_Abruzzo+Macedo nian @ 0,598949
2 Croatian+Cyprian+Greek+Kosovar @ 0,637247
3 Central_Greek+Cyprian+Greek+SE_English @ 0,642673
4 Central_Greek+Greek+Italian_Abruzzo+Macedonian @ 0,649726
5 Cyprian+Greek+Macedonian+Montenegrin @ 0,654813
6 Armenian+Italian_Abruzzo+LBA_Hungary+North_Italian @ 0,664825
7 Central_Greek+Greek+Italian_Abruzzo+Romanian @ 0,669544
8 Central_Greek+Cyprian+Greek+SW_English @ 0,672592
9 Central_Greek+Cyprian+Greek+Utah_German @ 0,673072
10 Central_Greek+Central_Greek+Greek_Thessaly+Kosovar @ 0,676563
11 Central_Greek+Central_Greek+Cyprian+SE_English @ 0,68541
12 Bulgarian+Central_Greek+Greek+Italian_Abruzzo @ 0,686367
13 Central_Greek+Croatian+Cyprian+Kosovar @ 0,68971
14 Central_Greek+Cyprian+Greek+Utah_USA @ 0,706399
15 Cyprian+Greek+Macedonian+Serbian @ 0,706886
16 Central_Greek+Central_Greek+Cyprian+SW_English @ 0,710416
17 Central_Greek+Cyprian+Greek+Orcadian @ 0,711693
18 Cyprian+Kosovar+Kosovar+Montenegrin @ 0,726797
19 Central_Greek+Central_Greek+Italian_Abruzzo+Romani an @ 0,730241
20 Bulgarian+Greek+Greek+Italian_Abruzzo @ 0,73123
21 Central_Greek+Italian_Abruzzo+Italian_Abruzzo+Mont enegrin @ 0,731437
22 Armenian+Cyprian+LBA_Hungary+LBA_Hungary @ 0,73146
23 Cyprian+Greek+Greek+Utah_German @ 0,734147
24 Armenian+LBA_Hungary+Tuscan+Tuscan @ 0,734822
25 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English+Tuscan @ 0,735779
26 Cyprian+Greek+Italian_Abruzzo+West_Scottish @ 0,739652
27 Central_Greek+Cyprian+Greek+West_Scottish @ 0,740108
28 Central_Greek+Greek+Greek_Thessaly+Kosovar @ 0,740303
29 Cyprian+Italian_Abruzzo+Montenegrin+Montenegrin @ 0,744753
30 Cyprian+Greek_Thessaly+Kosovar+Serbian @ 0,744911
31 Basque_French+Georgian_Imer+Tuscan+Tuscan @ 0,745133
32 Cyprian+Italian_Abruzzo+Montenegrin+Serbian @ 0,745174
33 Cyprian+Greek+Greek_Thessaly+Hungarian @ 0,747427
34 Georgian_Laz+Greek+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,748571
35 Basque_French+Georgian_Laz+Greek_Thessaly+Tuscan @ 0,751052
36 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+SW_English+Tuscan @ 0,754506
37 Central_Greek+Cyprian+Macedonian+Serbian @ 0,755039
38 Central_Greek+Central_Greek+Cyprian+Orcadian @ 0,755233
39 Bulgarian+Georgian_Imer+LBA_Hungary+Stuttgart @ 0,755413
40 Central_Greek+Cyprian+Montenegrin+Montenegrin @ 0,755823
3742184 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek @ 2,549992
2 Kosovar @ 2,701732
3 Greek_Thessaly @ 2,862945
4 Tuscan @ 2,863775
5 Central_Greek @ 2,892494
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 3,660173
7 North_Italian @ 3,754145
8 Macedonian @ 4,539311
9 Bulgarian @ 4,9785
10 West_Sicilian @ 5,025685
11 Romanian @ 5,214582
12 Montenegrin @ 5,220688
13 South_Italian @ 5,507843
14 East_Sicilian @ 5,51883
15 Central_Sicilian @ 5,702373
16 Serbian @ 5,866433
17 Spanish_Baleares @ 5,981237
18 Ashkenazi @ 6,508421
19 Spanish_Andalucia @ 6,583956
20 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 6,594511
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Greek+Kosovar @ 2,271638
2 Central_Greek+Kosovar @ 2,406016
3 Georgian_Laz+Gokhem2 @ 2,506152
4 Greek+Greek @ 2,549992
5 Greek+Tuscan @ 2,559228
6 Greek+North_Italian @ 2,563444
7 Central_Greek+North_Italian @ 2,56586
8 Greek+Greek_Thessaly @ 2,578004
9 Georgian_Imer+Gokhem2 @ 2,586638
10 Central_Greek+Tuscan @ 2,645121
11 Kosovar+Tuscan @ 2,67169
12 Kosovar+Kosovar @ 2,701732
13 Italian_Abruzzo+Kosovar @ 2,719767
14 Central_Greek+Greek @ 2,720721
15 Central_Greek+Greek_Thessaly @ 2,723011
16 Greek_Thessaly+Kosovar @ 2,749938
17 Greek_Thessaly+Tuscan @ 2,787459
18 Greek_Thessaly+Greek_Thessaly @ 2,862945
19 Tuscan+Tuscan @ 2,863775
20 Central_Greek+Central_Greek @ 2,892494
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Stuttgart +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Lithuanian @ 1,687642
2 50% Stuttgart +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Lithuanian @ 1,784891
3 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Lithuanian @ 1,876786
4 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% SE_English @ 1,957546
5 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Lithuanian @ 1,978711
6 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Polish @ 1,986181
7 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Norwegian @ 2,000424
8 50% Stuttgart +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Polish @ 2,063243
9 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% SW_English @ 2,063462
10 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Swedish @ 2,068968
11 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Orcadian @ 2,11656
12 50% Stuttgart +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Norwegian @ 2,121909
13 50% Stuttgart +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Swedish @ 2,127558
14 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Polish @ 2,135161
15 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 2,155821
16 50% Stuttgart +25% Abkhasian +25% Lithuanian @ 2,16589
17 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Abkhasian +25% SE_English @ 2,17323
18 50% Stuttgart +25% Chechen +25% SE_English @ 2,173593
19 50% North_Italian +25% Georgian_Laz +25% North_Italian @ 2,184328
20 50% Stuttgart +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Polish @ 2,184674
1651486 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgian_Imer+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 1,687642
2 Georgian_Imer+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttga rt @ 1,754898
3 Georgian_Laz+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 1,784891
4 Georgian_Laz+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgar t @ 1,857666
5 Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 1,859316
6 Georgian_Imer+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolith ic_Hungary @ 1,876786
7 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 1,891064
8 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 1,932462
9 Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 1,954312
10 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+ SE_English @ 1,957546
11 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+SE_En glish @ 1,967865
12 Georgian_Imer+North_Italian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 1,968112
13 Georgian_Laz+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithi c_Hungary @ 1,978711
14 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 1,983602
15 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+ Polish @ 1,986181
16 Croatian+Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Ital ian @ 1,991951
17 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+LBA_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary @ 1,995348
18 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish+Stuttgart @ 1,998193
19 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+LBA_Hungary+Stuttgart @ 1,998777
20 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+ Norwegian @ 2,000424
21 Croatian+Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+Stuttgart @ 2,007242
22 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+SW_English @ 2,019759
23 Georgian_Imer+LBA_Hungary+North_Italian+Stuttgart @ 2,019961
24 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Norwegian+Stuttgar t @ 2,036038
25 Georgian_Imer+Kosovar+LBA_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungar y @ 2,047626
26 Georgian_Imer+North_Italian+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,048446
27 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+SW_En glish @ 2,052583
28 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+SE_E nglish @ 2,056921
29 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English+Stuttga rt @ 2,058109
30 Georgian_Laz+Greek+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 2,061463
31 Georgian_Imer+Kosovar+LBA_Hungary+Stuttgart @ 2,062359
32 Georgian_Imer+Polish+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,063243
33 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+ SW_English @ 2,063462
34 Georgian_Laz+LBA_Hungary+Macedonian+Stuttgart @ 2,066321
35 Georgian_Imer+LBA_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+North_ Italian @ 2,066961
36 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+ Swedish @ 2,068968
37 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+Serbi an_Bosnia @ 2,069316
38 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart+Swedish @ 2,073239
39 Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+Stuttgart+Utah_USA @ 2,087273
40 Croatian+Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,09332
13262524 iterations.

[Sikeliot]

Thrax comes up fairly close to Spaniards also, interesting.

[Thrax]

Thrax comes up fairly close to Spaniards also, interesting.

Very interesting, I've never been that close to Spaniards in other calculators

[Sikeliot]

How do you access these results? I want to see where a Sicilian cousin plots.

[Black Wolf]

My Oracle results for K8.

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 1,989153
2 Moldavian @ 2,382229
3 Croatian @ 3,282455
4 Serbian_Bosnia @ 4,17076
5 Bosnian @ 4,582052
6 French @ 5,29358
7 Utah_USA @ 5,398204
8 Utah_German @ 5,875677
9 SW_English @ 5,982893
10 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6,029166
11 SE_English @ 6,061673
12 West_Scottish @ 7,10401
13 Orcadian @ 7,213489
14 LBA_Hungary @ 7,807123
15 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 7,983431
16 Serbian @ 8,274124
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 8,636359
18 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 9,051567
19 Utah_Scandinavian @ 9,511643
20 Norwegian @ 9,524955
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Estonian+Kosovar @ 1,28044
2 Bulgarian+Polish_Estonian @ 1,282779
3 Serbian+Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,318739
4 Croatian+Moldavian @ 1,367529
5 Serbian+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,463092
6 Montenegrin+Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,472374
7 Moldavian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,489366
8 Serbian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,499775
9 Macedonian+Polish_Estonian @ 1,504673
10 Bosnian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,507002
11 Hungarian+Moldavian @ 1,514221
12 Polish_Estonian+Romanian @ 1,515035
13 Bulgarian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,543468
14 Belorussian+Bulgarian @ 1,599711
15 Romanian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,612086
16 Belorussian+Romanian @ 1,625737
17 Montenegrin+Russian_Kursk @ 1,638873
18 Montenegrin+Russian_Orel @ 1,722304
19 Macedonian+Russian_Kursk @ 1,729655
20 Montenegrin+Russian_Voronez @ 1,742351
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Gokhem2 +25% Ossetian @ 0,803831
2 50% Adygei +25% French +25% Loschbour @ 0,887654
3 50% Adygei +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Loschbour @ 0,888093
4 50% Estonian +25% Gokhem2 +25% Ossetian @ 0,976488
5 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% East_Sicilian +25% Polish_Estonian @ 1,044398
6 50% Serbian +25% Azeri +25% Motala12 @ 1,05282
7 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% Polish_Estonian +25% West_Sicilian @ 1,054377
8 50% Montenegrin +25% Azeri +25% Motala12 @ 1,074797
9 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% Kosovar +25% Moldavian @ 1,075733
10 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Moksha +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,078831
11 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% Bosnian +25% Bulgarian @ 1,08183
12 50% Moldavian +25% Estonian +25% Tuscan @ 1,084444
13 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% Greek +25% Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,09135
14 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% Central_Greek +25% Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,094313
15 50% Estonian +25% Serbian_Bosnia +25% South_Italian @ 1,101893
16 50% Estonian +25% Bosnian +25% East_Sicilian @ 1,10509
17 50% Estonian +25% Bosnian +25% South_Italian @ 1,106226
18 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Bosnian +25% Moksha @ 1,118918
19 50% Polish_Estonian +25% South_Italian +25% Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,119942
20 50% Ukrainian_Lviv +25% East_Sicilian +25% Estonian @ 1,133831
1258129 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgian_Laz+Kumyk+Loschbour+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,634553
2 Estonian+Gokhem2+Lithuanian+Ossetian @ 0,648247
3 Chechen+Kumyk+Loschbour+Spanish_Cantabria @ 0,660574
4 Armenian+Kumyk+Loschbour+Polish_Estonian @ 0,664812
5 Belorussian+Georgian_Laz+Kumyk+Loschbour @ 0,667665
6 Georgian_Laz+Kabardin+Loschbour+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,67239
7 Belorussian+Georgian_Laz+Kabardin+Loschbour @ 0,685839
8 Kabardin+Lezgin+Loschbour+Spanish_Cantabria @ 0,688949
9 Gokhem2+Kumyk+Lithuanian+Polish_Estonian @ 0,689263
10 Chechen+Kabardin+Loschbour+Spanish_Cantabria @ 0,693104
11 Bulgarian+Motala12+Ossetian+Spanish_Castilla_La_Ma ncha @ 0,705312
12 Georgian_Laz+Kabardin+Loschbour+Polish_Estonian @ 0,708511
13 Kabardin+Lezgin+Loschbour+Spanish_Aragon @ 0,716594
14 Gokhem2+Kabardin+Lithuanian+Polish_Estonian @ 0,719845
15 French+Loschbour+Tabassaran+Turkish @ 0,722897
16 Georgian_Laz+Kumyk+Loschbour+Polish @ 0,724082
17 Georgian_Laz+Kumyk+Loschbour+Swedish @ 0,730404
18 Kabardin+Lezgin+Loschbour+Spanish_Valencia @ 0,73128
19 Chechen+Kabardin+Loschbour+Spanish_Cataluna @ 0,73231
20 Gokhem2+Kumyk+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,732622
21 Georgian_Laz+Kumyk+Loschbour+Polish_Estonian @ 0,73459
22 Estonian+Gokhem2+Kumyk+Swedish @ 0,740966
23 Adygei+Estonian+Iranian_Jewish+Loschbour @ 0,750731
24 Chechen+Hungarian+Loschbour+Turkish @ 0,750828
25 Armenian+Estonian+Loschbour+Ossetian @ 0,755879
26 Georgian_Laz+Kabardin+Loschbour+Polish @ 0,757019
27 Bulgarian+Motala12+Ossetian+Spanish_Andalucia @ 0,757599
28 Kumyk+Lezgin+Loschbour+Spanish_Aragon @ 0,758443
29 Balkar+Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Polish_Estonian @ 0,76016
30 Balkar+Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,761316
31 Croatian+Loschbour+Tabassaran+Turkish @ 0,761358
32 Adygei+LBA_Hungary+Loschbour+Ossetian @ 0,763653
33 Belorussian+Gokhem2+Kumyk+Lithuanian @ 0,764437
34 Bulgarian+Motala12+Ossetian+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leo n @ 0,766639
35 Azeri+Greek_Thessaly+Motala12+SW_English @ 0,769465
36 Azeri+LBA_Hungary+Loschbour+Tabassaran @ 0,77011
37 Georgian_Laz+Kabardin+Loschbour+Russian_Voronez @ 0,771245
38 Chechen+Kumyk+Loschbour+Spanish_Cataluna @ 0,773356
39 Chechen+Kumyk+Loschbour+Spanish_Valencia @ 0,775222
40 Iranian_Jewish+Lithuanian+Loschbour+North_Ossetian @ 0,781906
6184884 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Croatian @ 0,432315
2 Bosnian @ 0,764873
3 Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,016378
4 Hungarian @ 1,587376
5 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,585027
6 SE_English @ 2,899306
7 Utah_USA @ 3,142233
8 SW_English @ 3,190567
9 Moldavian @ 3,215894
10 Serbian @ 3,257129
11 Utah_German @ 3,378726
12 Orcadian @ 3,599428
13 Norwegian @ 3,683877
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3,766304
15 French @ 3,793873
16 West_Scottish @ 3,821845
17 Montenegrin @ 3,917663
18 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 3,946267
19 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,135696
20 Swedish @ 4,507415
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Macedonian+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,075012
2 Serbian_Bosnia+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,124886
3 Macedonian+Norwegian @ 0,125127
4 Macedonian+Polish_Estonian @ 0,150777
5 Macedonian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,155404
6 Montenegrin+Norwegian @ 0,155707
7 Macedonian+Swedish @ 0,156921
8 Montenegrin+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,160361
9 Bosnian+SE_English @ 0,164934
10 Montenegrin+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,166041
11 Montenegrin+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,16781
12 Bulgarian+Norwegian @ 0,16872
13 Serbian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,168744
14 Bosnian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,170333
15 Norwegian+Serbian @ 0,17226
16 Hungarian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,17934
17 Bosnian+Norwegian @ 0,184662
18 Macedonian+Russian_Orel @ 0,184882
19 Bulgarian+Swedish @ 0,186081
20 Belorussian+Macedonian @ 0,200117
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Russian_Orel +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,04472
2 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Bosnian +25% Russian_Orel @ 0,055113
3 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Croatian +25% Russian_Orel @ 0,055318
4 50% Russian_Smolensk +25% Kosovar +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,056138
5 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Polish_Estonian +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,05638
6 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Bosnian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,056787
7 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Russian_Smolensk +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,057555
8 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Russian_Smolensk +25% Serbian @ 0,059351
9 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Montenegrin +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,061968
10 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Bosnian +25% Polish_Estonian @ 0,064688
11 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Montenegrin +25% Polish_Estonian @ 0,064873
12 50% Bosnian +25% Russian_Smolensk +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,065093
13 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Macedonian +25% Polish_Estonian @ 0,065426
14 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Russian_Orel +25% Serbian @ 0,065589
15 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Montenegrin +25% Russian_Orel @ 0,066639
16 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Croatian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,067123
17 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Polish_Estonian +25% Serbian @ 0,067735
18 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Macedonian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,06865
19 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Macedonian +25% Russian_Orel @ 0,068766
20 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Croatian +25% Polish_Estonian @ 0,068956
1787163 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Abkhasian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Russian_Orel @ 0,030844
2 Abkhasian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish_Estoni an @ 0,037343
3 Abkhasian+Motala12+Russian_Orel+Stuttgart @ 0,037864
4 Abkhasian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Russian_Smole nsk @ 0,040023
5 Abkhasian+Motala12+Polish_Estonian+Stuttgart @ 0,041664
6 Adygei+Motala12+Norwegian+Stuttgart @ 0,041719
7 Motala12+Norwegian+Ossetian+Stuttgart @ 0,043383
8 Chechen+Motala12+Russian_Orel+Stuttgart @ 0,043979
9 Russian_Orel+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian _Bosnia @ 0,04472
10 Abkhasian+Motala12+Russian_Smolensk+Stuttgart @ 0,045884
11 Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Ossetian+SE_English @ 0,046057
12 Adygei+Motala12+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 0,047477
13 Motala12+Ossetian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 0,048555
14 Adygei+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,048783
15 Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Norwegian+Ossetian @ 0,049482
16 Adygei+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 0,050127
17 Chechen+Hungarian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,052268
18 Abkhasian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Russian_Kursk @ 0,052386
19 Adygei+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Norwegian @ 0,052972
20 Adygei+Motala12+Stuttgart+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,054237
21 Adygei+Croatian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,054247
22 Adygei+Motala12+Russian_Smolensk+Stuttgart @ 0,054525
23 Bosnian+Russian_Orel+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,055113
24 Motala12+Ossetian+Stuttgart+Swedish @ 0,055285
25 Croatian+Russian_Orel+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosni a @ 0,055318
26 Motala12+Ossetian+Polish+Stuttgart @ 0,055372
27 Chechen+Hungarian+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 0,055983
28 Kosovar+Russian_Smolensk+Russian_Smolensk+Serbian_ Bosnia @ 0,056138
29 Adygei+Motala12+Stuttgart+Swedish @ 0,056219
30 Polish_Estonian+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia+Serb ian_Bosnia @ 0,05638
31 Bosnian+Russian_Smolensk+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bo snia @ 0,056787
32 Adygei+Motala12+Polish+Stuttgart @ 0,056858
33 Russian_Smolensk+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia+Ser bian_Bosnia @ 0,057555
34 Adygei+Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Norwegian @ 0,057773
35 Chechen+Motala12+Russian_Smolensk+Stuttgart @ 0,058264
36 Adygei+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,058354
37 Abkhasian+Estonian+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 0,059131
38 Russian_Smolensk+Serbian+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bo snia @ 0,059351
39 Kosovar+Norwegian+Russian_Orel+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,060056
40 Adygei+Motala12+Stuttgart+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,060308
17162834 iterations.

[Sikeliot]

Where are you guys getting these?

[Sea Warrior]

I can do the oracle 4+ Gaussian method for you guys if you are interested.

I would also appreciate this if it isn't too much work.

Thanks in advance!

[Hevo]

I would also appreciate this if it isn't too much work.

Thanks in advance!

Sure, here you go.



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SW_English @ 1,258262
2 SE_English @ 1,3636
3 Utah_USA @ 1,534888
4 Utah_German @ 2,003789
5 Orcadian @ 2,964449
6 West_Scottish @ 3,396624
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,766179
8 LBA_Hungary @ 4,948995
9 Hungarian @ 5,308801
10 Norwegian @ 5,610401
11 Utah_Scandinavian @ 5,616549
12 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 5,968415
13 Hinxton4 @ 6,265169
14 Moldavian @ 6,641194
15 French @ 6,736766
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6,87892
17 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 6,925676
18 Swedish @ 7,224223
19 Croatian @ 7,234068
20 Polish @ 7,796383
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 French+Hinxton4 @ 0,981399
2 LBA_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 1,160824
3 SW_English+SW_English @ 1,258262
4 SE_English+SW_English @ 1,307794
5 French+Swedish @ 1,332939
6 SE_English+SE_English @ 1,3636
7 SW_English+Utah_USA @ 1,36793
8 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian @ 1,39618
9 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 1,405512
10 LBA_Hungary+Norwegian @ 1,441442
11 Lithuanian+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1,44412
12 LBA_Hungary+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,488317
13 LBA_Hungary+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,499556
14 Utah_USA+Utah_USA @ 1,534888
15 Lithuanian+Spanish_Aragon @ 1,607098
16 LBA_Hungary+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,62078
17 SW_English+Utah_German @ 1,622829
18 LBA_Hungary+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,627552
19 Russian_Kursk+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 1,638088
20 Lithuanian+Spanish_Valencia @ 1,64217
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% West_Scottish @ 0,866071
2 50% SW_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% West_Scottish @ 0,878855
3 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Orcadian @ 0,879092
4 50% West_Scottish +25% Basque_French +25% West_Scottish @ 0,884608
5 50% Lithuanian +25% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,887309
6 50% SW_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Orcadian @ 0,90142
7 50% West_Scottish +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 0,902874
8 50% West_Scottish +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% West_Scottish @ 0,907681
9 50% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% West_Scottish @ 0,932342
10 50% West_Scottish +25% Basque_French +25% Orcadian @ 0,933749
11 50% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,963138
12 50% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 0,966126
13 50% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 0,969078
14 50% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Valencia +25% SW_English @ 0,981229
15 50% French +25% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 @ 0,981399
16 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 0,986403
17 50% Orcadian +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Utah_USA @ 0,9897
18 50% Orcadian +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SW_English @ 0,990336
19 50% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% SW_English @ 0,990388
20 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 0,993036
1036873 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 0,866071
2 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 0,87091
3 LBA_Hungary+SW_English+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 0,878855
4 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English @ 0,879092
5 Basque_French+West_Scottish+West_Scottish+West_Sco ttish @ 0,884608
6 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,887309
7 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+SE_English+SW_English @ 0,888782
8 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+SW_English+SW_English @ 0,90142
9 Orcadian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+West_Scottish+West_Sco ttish @ 0,902874
10 Spanish_Pais_Vasco+West_Scottish+West_Scottish+Wes t_Scottish @ 0,907681
11 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Montenegrin @ 0,908889
12 French+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 0,912599
13 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 0,921291
14 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 0,921885
15 French+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+Norwegian @ 0,925497
16 LBA_Hungary+SW_English+Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 0,931877
17 Orcadian+Orcadian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+West_Scottish @ 0,932342
18 Basque_French+Orcadian+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 0,933749
19 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 0,93713
20 French+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+Orcadian @ 0,952557
21 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,963138
22 French+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,96348
23 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+SE_English+Utah_German @ 0,96423
24 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Montenegrin+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 0,965902
25 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+Spanish_Valencia @ 0,966126
26 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+Spanish_Aragon @ 0,969078
27 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+SW_English+Utah_German @ 0,969307
28 Basque_French+Croatian+Hinxton4+Polish @ 0,973606
29 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+Utah_German+West_Scottish @ 0,977183
30 LBA_Hungary+SW_English+Utah_German+West_Scottish @ 0,977742
31 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Valencia+SW_English @ 0,981229
32 French+French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 0,981399
33 French+LBA_Hungary+Swedish+West_Scottish @ 0,982179
34 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 0,986403
35 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+Orcadian+Utah_USA @ 0,9897
36 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+Orcadian+SW_English @ 0,990336
37 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Aragon+SW_English @ 0,990388
38 Orcadian+Orcadian+Orcadian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 0,993036
39 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Aragon+Utah_USA @ 0,995029
40 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+Utah_USA+Utah_USA @ 0,996508
4117251 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 3,428046
2 SW_English @ 3,522476
3 Utah_USA @ 3,690839
4 Orcadian @ 3,75856
5 LBA_Hungary @ 3,792336
6 Hinxton4 @ 3,839854
7 West_Scottish @ 3,848722
8 Utah_German @ 4,015135
9 French @ 4,119817
10 Norwegian @ 4,238076
11 Croatian @ 4,295998
12 Serbian_Bosnia @ 4,39122
13 Hungarian @ 4,41519
14 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,433598
15 Swedish @ 4,476877
16 Polish @ 4,567748
17 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,674086
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,998751
19 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 5,003268
20 Bosnian @ 5,004271
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,425234
2 SE_English+SE_English @ 3,428046
3 Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,442782
4 Basque_French+Hinxton4 @ 3,459116
5 LBA_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,461253
6 SE_English+SW_English @ 3,476694
7 LBA_Hungary+SW_English @ 3,512268
8 French+Hinxton4 @ 3,519404
9 SW_English+SW_English @ 3,522476
10 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian @ 3,539324
11 LBA_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 3,552248
12 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,56626
13 Orcadian+SE_English @ 3,594791
14 LBA_Hungary+Utah_USA @ 3,597198
15 SW_English+Utah_USA @ 3,608665
16 Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 3,621536
17 Orcadian+SW_English @ 3,634035
18 Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,637125
19 French+SE_English @ 3,644703
20 SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,645497
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,277702
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,304338
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian @ 3,31126
4 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 3,341599
5 50% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart @ 3,352479
6 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Stuttgart @ 3,366907
7 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% SW_English @ 3,371396
8 50% Lithuanian +25% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,372686
9 50% Lithuanian +25% SE_English +25% Stuttgart @ 3,377102
10 50% Lithuanian +25% Hinxton4 +25% Stuttgart @ 3,379388
11 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Sardinian @ 3,383687
12 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Orcadian @ 3,392301
13 50% Hinxton4 +25% Basque_French +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,397336
14 50% Hinxton4 +25% Basque_French +25% SE_English @ 3,404919
15 50% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart +25% SW_English @ 3,407202
16 50% Hinxton4 +25% Basque_French +25% LBA_Hungary @ 3,408171
17 50% SE_English +25% Basque_French +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,410117
18 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 3,410392
19 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% West_Scottish @ 3,412889
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,412965
1680926 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,277702
2 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,304338
3 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian @ 3,31126
4 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,341599
5 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 3,352479
6 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Stuttgart @ 3,366907
7 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+SW_English @ 3,371396
8 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,372686
9 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 3,377102
10 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 3,379388
11 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Sardinian @ 3,383687
12 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Orcadian @ 3,392301
13 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,397336
14 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,404919
15 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 3,407202
16 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,408171
17 Basque_French+Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,410117
18 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,410392
19 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+West_Scott ish @ 3,412889
20 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,412965
21 Basque_French+French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,413512
22 Basque_French+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,414684
23 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+SE_English @ 3,416117
24 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 3,419216
25 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Utah_USA @ 3,419395
26 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,420062
27 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,421732
28 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+LBA_Hungary @ 3,425234
29 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SW_English @ 3,425961
30 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish @ 3,427008
31 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,428046
32 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Orcadian @ 3,429527
33 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+West_Scottis h @ 3,431245
34 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,431299
35 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,433133
36 Basque_French+Hinxton4+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,435023
37 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,435793
38 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+SW_English @ 3,439392
39 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 3,440163
40 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+Spanish_Pais_ Vasco @ 3,442782
14411389 iterations.

[Jackson]

Would anyone be able to stick mine through the oracle if that's ok? :D

ANE: 14.08%
South Eurasian: 0.41%
Near Eastern: 41.87%
East Eurasian: 0%
WHG: 42.85%
Oceanian: 0.21%
Pygmy: 0%
Sub-Saharan: 0.57%

[Hevo]

Would anyone be able to stick mine through the oracle if that's ok? :D

ANE: 14.08%
South Eurasian: 0.41%
Near Eastern: 41.87%
East Eurasian: 0%
WHG: 42.85%
Oceanian: 0.21%
Pygmy: 0%
Sub-Saharan: 0.57%


Sure, here are your results.



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 2,415603
2 Utah_USA @ 2,664309
3 SW_English @ 3,202909
4 SE_English @ 3,324634
5 Utah_German @ 3,415001
6 Moldavian @ 4,365982
7 Croatian @ 4,382231
8 French @ 4,755411
9 Orcadian @ 4,844968
10 West_Scottish @ 4,893763
11 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5,056976
12 LBA_Hungary @ 5,479851
13 Serbian_Bosnia @ 5,492404
14 Bosnian @ 6,7082
15 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 6,885119
16 Utah_Scandinavian @ 7,57146
17 Norwegian @ 7,584692
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 7,692658
19 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 8,086984
20 Hinxton4 @ 8,633055
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Serbian @ 1,056368
2 Croatian+Orcadian @ 1,167706
3 Hungarian+Utah_USA @ 1,191459
4 French+West_Scottish @ 1,200039
5 Croatian+SE_English @ 1,237258
6 Hungarian+SW_English @ 1,251119
7 Croatian+Utah_German @ 1,261563
8 Croatian+West_Scottish @ 1,261956
9 Croatian+SW_English @ 1,270233
10 Hungarian+SE_English @ 1,298788
11 Orcadian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,317289
12 Serbian_Bosnia+West_Scottish @ 1,329556
13 French+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,347087
14 Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 1,387747
15 Serbian+Swedish @ 1,395963
16 Croatian+Utah_USA @ 1,403201
17 Hungarian+Utah_German @ 1,455167
18 French+Orcadian @ 1,463754
19 French+Utah_German @ 1,648516
20 Hinxton4+Montenegrin @ 1,687201
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar +25% West_Scottish @ 0,752744
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar +25% Utah_German @ 0,757228
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar +25% Orcadian @ 0,772192
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar +25% SE_English @ 0,784069
5 50% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar +25% Utah_USA @ 0,796138
6 50% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar +25% SW_English @ 0,798558
7 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Orcadian @ 0,804606
8 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% West_Scottish @ 0,811274
9 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek +25% Hinxton4 @ 0,823411
10 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% Macedonian @ 0,83459
11 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek +25% Swedish @ 0,835017
12 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% Montenegrin @ 0,855932
13 50% Hinxton4 +25% Montenegrin +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,856784
14 50% Utah_USA +25% Hinxton4 +25% Macedonian @ 0,882418
15 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,892376
16 50% Hinxton4 +25% Tuscan +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,893131
17 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% Romanian @ 0,893603
18 50% Hinxton4 +25% Norwegian +25% Tuscan @ 0,898466
19 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Hinxton4 @ 0,902354
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Norwegian @ 0,903434
1008638 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+West_Scottish @ 0,752744
2 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+Utah_German @ 0,757228
3 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+Orcadian @ 0,772192
4 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+SE_English @ 0,784069
5 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+Utah_USA @ 0,796138
6 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+SW_English @ 0,798558
7 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 0,804606
8 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 0,811274
9 Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 0,823411
10 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Macedonian @ 0,83459
11 Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Swedish @ 0,835017
12 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Montenegrin @ 0,855932
13 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Montenegrin+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,856784
14 Hinxton4+Polish+Tuscan+West_Scottish @ 0,866476
15 Hinxton4+Orcadian+Polish+Tuscan @ 0,882063
16 Hinxton4+Macedonian+Utah_USA+Utah_USA @ 0,882418
17 Hinxton4+Macedonian+Utah_German+Utah_USA @ 0,889003
18 Hinxton4+Macedonian+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 0,889494
19 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,892376
20 French+Hinxton4+Kosovar+Lithuanian @ 0,892881
21 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Tuscan+Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,893131
22 Hinxton4+Macedonian+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 0,893472
23 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Romanian @ 0,893603
24 Belorussian+Hinxton4+Tuscan+West_Scottish @ 0,897506
25 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Norwegian+Tuscan @ 0,898466
26 French+Hinxton4+Serbian+West_Scottish @ 0,899999
27 Belorussian+Hinxton4+Orcadian+Tuscan @ 0,901138
28 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 0,902354
29 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Norwegian @ 0,903434
30 Hinxton4+Kosovar+Orcadian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,906181
31 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Tuscan+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,906243
32 Greek+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+SW_English @ 0,906474
33 French+Hinxton4+Macedonian+Polish @ 0,909192
34 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Tuscan+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 0,915205
35 Hinxton4+Macedonian+SW_English+Utah_German @ 0,918121
36 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Tuscan+West_Scottish @ 0,919126
37 Hinxton4+Kosovar+Norwegian+Orcadian @ 0,919275
38 Hinxton4+Romanian+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 0,919359
39 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Macedonian @ 0,920601
40 Hinxton4+Russian_Smolensk+Tuscan+West_Scottish @ 0,920884
4374408 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 3,363335
2 SW_English @ 3,401826
3 Utah_USA @ 3,454038
4 Orcadian @ 3,608576
5 West_Scottish @ 3,677813
6 LBA_Hungary @ 3,710719
7 French @ 3,716035
8 Utah_German @ 3,811437
9 Hinxton4 @ 3,839816
10 Croatian @ 3,860373
11 Hungarian @ 3,993376
12 Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,999884
13 Norwegian @ 4,418497
14 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,470814
15 Bosnian @ 4,579837
16 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,583396
17 Polish @ 4,760809
18 Swedish @ 4,798851
19 Serbian @ 4,919124
20 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,968217
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 French+Hinxton4 @ 3,154203
2 Hinxton4+Montenegrin @ 3,204623
3 Hinxton4+North_Italian @ 3,236359
4 Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,266381
5 Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 3,291091
6 Hinxton4+Macedonian @ 3,292071
7 Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,319906
8 LBA_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,32304
9 LBA_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 3,338262
10 French+Orcadian @ 3,343056
11 French+West_Scottish @ 3,344613
12 French+SE_English @ 3,347161
13 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian @ 3,348791
14 LBA_Hungary+SW_English @ 3,357359
15 SE_English+SE_English @ 3,363335
16 Croatian+Hinxton4 @ 3,3681
17 French+SW_English @ 3,379093
18 SE_English+SW_English @ 3,382121
19 Hinxton4+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,382591
20 LBA_Hungary+Utah_USA @ 3,388544
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,643141
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Stuttgart @ 2,683736
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian @ 2,805457
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart @ 2,858377
5 50% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,87846
6 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tuscan @ 2,895362
7 50% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% West_Scottish @ 2,913899
8 50% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian +25% SE_English @ 2,928896
9 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar @ 2,933147
10 50% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Polish @ 2,94025
11 50% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian +25% West_Scottish @ 2,941728
12 50% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian +25% SW_English @ 2,950642
13 50% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian +25% Orcadian @ 2,953365
14 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Sardinian @ 2,95408
15 50% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Orcadian @ 2,958614
16 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek +25% Hinxton4 @ 2,962209
17 50% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary +25% North_Italian @ 2,970767
18 50% Hinxton4 +25% Polish +25% Stuttgart @ 2,97381
19 50% Hinxton4 +25% Stuttgart +25% West_Scottish @ 2,977397
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian +25% Utah_USA @ 2,978847
1694255 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,643141
2 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Stuttgart @ 2,683736
3 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian @ 2,805457
4 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 2,858377
5 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,87846
6 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Tuscan @ 2,895362
7 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 2,913899
8 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+SE_English @ 2,928896
9 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar @ 2,933147
10 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish @ 2,94025
11 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+West_Scottish @ 2,941728
12 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+SW_English @ 2,950642
13 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+Orcadian @ 2,953365
14 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Sardinian @ 2,95408
15 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+Orcadian @ 2,958614
16 Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 2,962209
17 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+North_Italian @ 2,970767
18 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Polish+Stuttgart @ 2,97381
19 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 2,977397
20 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+Utah_USA @ 2,978847
21 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian @ 2,994085
22 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+West_Scottis h @ 3,009345
23 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 3,018081
24 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 3,020021
25 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Orcadian @ 3,02264
26 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,029415
27 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 3,030566
28 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+Norwegian @ 3,035231
29 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+Swedish @ 3,039356
30 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+SE_English @ 3,042231
31 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,048413
32 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+SW_English @ 3,060943
33 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,062377
34 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+SW_English @ 3,063575
35 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+Orcadian @ 3,063621
36 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 3,066508
37 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+West_Scottish @ 3,067603
38 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Stuttgart+Swedish @ 3,068619
39 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+LBA_Hungary @ 3,069014
40 Hinxton4+North_Italian+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,069722
15495109 iterations.

[Catkin]

^^^ The Gaussian method results look quite close Jackson?

[gold_fenix]

perhaps i could get the algorithm of the eurogenes k8, but i need the eurogenes k7

[gold_fenix]

for the moment comparing k7vs k8 between WHG results, it seems there is a linear relation with % of mistake very small

[Black Wolf]

perhaps i could get the algorithm of the eurogenes k8, but i need the eurogenes k7

K7 is available on GEDmatch.

[gold_fenix]

K7 is available on GEDmatch.

i was referin to the data of you, but i have got from a post

[Jackson]

^^^ The Gaussian method results look quite close Jackson?
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Yeah the Gaussian is quite close on that one, i should be just south-east of the SE English average and that seems to be the case as i am closer to French than average (i would have thought). The other one makes sense too although it seems to include a lot from central Europe as well, which makes sense given their scores (as this doesn't distinguish as much between east-west compared to other calculations) so it's perfectly reasonable. :)

[Jackson]

for the moment comparing k7vs k8 between WHG results, it seems there is a linear relation with % of mistake very small

It's interesting how many SW Europeans have quite high WHG in this, comparable to some more northern populations, but the main difference is their ANE. I guess that also relates in a way to the Baltic and East Euro scores of the K15, as Iberians for example have quite low scores in these, but high Atlantic and reasonably high North Sea.

[gold_fenix]

It's interesting how many SW Europeans have quite high WHG in this, comparable to some more northern populations, but the main difference is their ANE. I guess that also relates in a way to the Baltic and East Euro scores of the K15, as Iberians for example have quite low scores in these, but high Atlantic and reasonably high North Sea.

i would score near of 40% of WHG

[Black Wolf]

i would score near of 40% of WHG

Yes you should. You will probably be like 38% WHG.

[Damião de Góis]

I'm not sure if it's possible to deduce our K8 from our K7 results. I score 52% WHG and just 32% ENF, so i wonder how that would decrease and increase on K8?

[Longbowman]

I'm not sure if it's possible to deduce our K8 from our K7 results. I score 52% WHG and just 32% ENF, so i wonder how that would decrease and increase on K8?

WHG goes down a lot.

[Black Wolf]

I'm not sure if it's possible to deduce our K8 from our K7 results. I score 52% WHG and just 32% ENF, so i wonder how that would decrease and increase on K8?

Your WHG will decrease and your ENF (Near_Eastern) will increase in K8.

[Damião de Góis]

WHG goes down a lot.


Your WHG will decrease and your ENF (Near_Eastern) will increase in K8.

Did WHG and ENF changed the same ammount from K7 to K8 for both of you?

[gold_fenix]

I'm not sure if it's possible to deduce our K8 from our K7 results. I score 52% WHG and just 32% ENF, so i wonder how that would decrease and increase on K8?

they have a linear relation, for example the division between WHG k7 and WHG k8, have these values from the sample i have taken
1,371516388
1,499523921
1,429655394
1,4168028

are only 4 sample but if use k7 vs k8 in linear regression i get a R=1

[Black Wolf]

Did WHG and ENF changed the same ammount from K7 to K8 for both of you?

My WHG went down almost 20% and my ENF (Near_Eastern) went up by about 20%.

[Longbowman]

Did WHG and ENF changed the same ammount from K7 to K8 for both of you?

Down and up around 10 percentage points for me.

[Danishmend]

Map of ANE in Europe

http://i62.tinypic.com/e66a9j.png

ANE peaks in Dagestan and has no presence in Sardinia or Western North Africa.

Iranian Jewish: 14, Iraqi Jewish: 12, AJ: 8.4, Georgian Jewish: 8.3, SJ: 7.3

What exactly is ANE? I know what it stands for (Ancient North Eurasian), I mean what migrations can we associate with ANE admixture? It peaks in non-IE speaker areas so I guess it has no link to IE migrations?? :confused:

[Longbowman]

What exactly is ANE? I know what it stands for (Ancient North Eurasian), I mean what migrations can we associate with ANE admixture? It peaks in non-IE speaker areas so I guess it has no link to IE migrations?? :confused:

IE is correct :) it might be associated with other migrations too

[Gaston]

What exactly is ANE? I know what it stands for (Ancient North Eurasian), I mean what migrations can we associate with ANE admixture? It peaks in non-IE speaker areas so I guess it has no link to IE migrations?? :confused:

ANE peaks nowadays in South American natives like the Karitiana, in case anyone forgot. Then it peaks in some South Asians (in the Pakistan area) and some Siberians. In "West Eurasians", it peaks in the North Caucasus.


It is partially linked to IE migrations in a West Eurasian context but other steppe language families that expanded at the same time as IE might have involved ANE-admixed people.
ANE is recent anyway (post neolithic) in the Near East and was already present in Northeastern Europe during the Mesolithic.

[Danishmend]

It seems to me that there is some correlation between Eurogenes' "ANE" and dodecad's "Gedrosia" admixture.

[RighNick]

Here are my plots:

http://i.imgur.com/XqE0Cx6.png
http://i.imgur.com/1ER5qAv.png

And here are my percentages:

ANE 0.122336
South_Eurasian 0.000443
Near_Eastern 0.389661
East_Eurasian 0.053874
WHG 0.379874
Oceanian 0.011192
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.042611


Lower bound NE

ANE 0.120611
South_Eurasian 0.00186
Near_Eastern 0.35751
East_Eurasian 0.054727
WHG 0.409948
Oceanian 0.011825
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.043509



I can do the oracle 4+ Gaussian method for you guys if you are interested.

I'm not sure if you have time, but I'd really appreciate it if you could do the oracle for mine as well :)

[Hevo]

And here are my percentages:

ANE 0.122336
South_Eurasian 0.000443
Near_Eastern 0.389661
East_Eurasian 0.053874
WHG 0.379874
Oceanian 0.011192
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.042611


Lower bound NE

ANE 0.120611
South_Eurasian 0.00186
Near_Eastern 0.35751
East_Eurasian 0.054727
WHG 0.409948
Oceanian 0.011825
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.043509




I'm not sure if you have time, but I'd really appreciate it if you could do the oracle for mine as well :)

Takes only a few minutes.:P




Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moldavian @ 7,772987
2 Hungarian @ 8,286217
3 Croatian @ 9,35269
4 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 9,736039
5 Utah_USA @ 9,758665
6 Utah_German @ 9,842338
7 Serbian_Bosnia @ 9,899849
8 Bosnian @ 9,937689
9 French @ 10,084038
10 SW_English @ 10,127962
11 SE_English @ 10,2006
12 West_Scottish @ 10,513551
13 Orcadian @ 10,677508
14 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 10,68652
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 11,333449
16 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 11,439361
17 LBA_Hungary @ 11,499049
18 Utah_Scandinavian @ 12,07753
19 Serbian @ 12,186125
20 Norwegian @ 12,188041
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,263457
2 Erzya+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,445268
3 Moksha+Spanish_Canarias @ 4,172257
4 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Murcia @ 4,190393
5 Erzya+Spanish_Murcia @ 4,372621
6 Finnish+Spanish_Canarias @ 4,752739
7 Erzya+Spanish_Galicia @ 4,836189
8 Erzya+Spanish_Extremadura @ 4,89215
9 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Galicia @ 4,926263
10 Moksha+Spanish_Murcia @ 4,931863
11 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Extremadura @ 4,945832
12 Erzya+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5,04617
13 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,051801
14 Erzya+Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,055222
15 Moksha+Spanish_Galicia @ 5,108705
16 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5,156592
17 Moksha+Spanish_Extremadura @ 5,195515
18 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Baleares @ 5,332863
19 Moksha+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5,358774
20 Finnish+Spanish_Murcia @ 5,406983
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Estonian @ 1,792203
2 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Lithuanian @ 1,87405
3 50% Finnish +25% Egyptian +25% Finnish @ 1,956321
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% Chuvash +25% Moroccan @ 2,157748
5 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Finnish @ 2,200992
6 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Polish_Estonian @ 2,223403
7 50% Swedish +25% Chuvash +25% Moroccan @ 2,234693
8 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Mari +25% Swedish @ 2,292862
9 50% Finnish +25% Moldavian +25% Tunisian @ 2,299721
10 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Belorussian +25% Mari @ 2,301639
11 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Estonian +25% Tatar @ 2,312015
12 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Mari +25% Polish @ 2,320289
13 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Mari +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 2,34352
14 50% Finnish +25% Hungarian +25% Tunisian @ 2,350233
15 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Hinxton4 +25% Mari @ 2,363899
16 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Lithuanian +25% Mari @ 2,367894
17 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 2,368164
18 50% Finnish +25% Hungarian +25% Moroccan @ 2,376074
19 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Belorussian +25% Chuvash @ 2,376279
20 50% Russian_Kargopol +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tunisian @ 2,393735
1493751 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Chuvash+Egyptian+Motala12+Tuscan @ 0,869818
2 Chuvash+Egyptian+Kosovar+Motala12 @ 0,998604
3 Egyptian+Macedonian+Motala12+Tatar @ 1,055679
4 Bulgarian+Egyptian+Motala12+Tatar @ 1,072552
5 Egyptian+Motala12+Romanian+Tatar @ 1,086578
6 Chuvash+Egyptian+Motala12+North_Italian @ 1,173964
7 Chuvash+Egyptian+Greek_Thessaly+Motala12 @ 1,190843
8 Bedouin+Chuvash+Motala12+Spanish_Canarias @ 1,192039
9 Central_Greek+Motala12+Tatar+Tunisian @ 1,231732
10 Egyptian+Motala12+North_Italian+Tatar @ 1,270206
11 Greek+Motala12+Tatar+Tunisian @ 1,31662
12 Egyptian+Montenegrin+Motala12+Tatar @ 1,352827
13 Chuvash+Motala12+Palestinian+Spanish_Canarias @ 1,407344
14 Chuvash+Motala12+South_Italian+Tunisian @ 1,420941
15 Bedouin+Chuvash+Motala12+Spanish_Murcia @ 1,426466
16 Chuvash+Italian_Abruzzo+Motala12+Tunisian @ 1,45242
17 Italian_Abruzzo+Motala12+Tatar+Tunisian @ 1,456757
18 Egyptian+Motala12+Spanish_Baleares+Tatar @ 1,471126
19 Jordanian+Motala12+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 1,488308
20 Bedouin+Chuvash+Motala12+Spanish_Extremadura @ 1,510427
21 Chuvash+Moroccan+Motala12+South_Italian @ 1,557277
22 Egyptian+Kosovar+Motala12+Tatar @ 1,57349
23 Chuvash+Jordanian+Motala12+Spanish_Canarias @ 1,590068
24 Chuvash+East_Sicilian+Motala12+Tunisian @ 1,607256
25 Italian_Abruzzo+Moroccan+Motala12+Tatar @ 1,617935
26 Chuvash+Motala12+Tunisian+West_Sicilian @ 1,620897
27 Bedouin+Chuvash+Motala12+Spanish_Galicia @ 1,6269
28 Bedouin+Chuvash+Motala12+Spanish_Andalucia @ 1,661363
29 Central_Greek+Moroccan+Motala12+Tatar @ 1,662432
30 Motala12+Palestinian+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 1,662955
31 Central_Sicilian+Chuvash+Motala12+Tunisian @ 1,683204
32 Egyptian+Motala12+Spanish_Andalucia+Tatar @ 1,710425
33 Egyptian+Motala12+Serbian+Tatar @ 1,715308
34 Egyptian+Motala12+Spanish_Murcia+Tatar @ 1,717517
35 Bedouin+Chuvash+Motala12+Spanish_Baleares @ 1,717552
36 Bedouin+Chuvash+Motala12+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1,740707
37 Chuvash+LBA_Hungary+Lithuanian+Moroccan @ 1,781005
38 Chuvash+Estonian+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Canarias @ 1,792203
39 Central_Greek+Chuvash+Motala12+Tunisian @ 1,794735
40 Ashkenazi+Chuvash+Motala12+Tunisian @ 1,805347
10817178 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Murcia @ 10,233592
2 Spanish_Galicia @ 10,303298
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 10,998422
4 Spanish_Canarias @ 11,381376
5 Spanish_Andalucia @ 11,451912
6 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 12,414729
7 Russian_Kargopol @ 12,475305
8 Moksha @ 12,817005
9 Spanish_Baleares @ 13,00384
10 Moldavian @ 13,125031
11 Spanish_Cataluna @ 13,161994
12 Erzya @ 13,233941
13 Russian_Voronez @ 13,263096
14 Tatar @ 13,312172
15 Spanish_Valencia @ 13,706902
16 Spanish_Cantabria @ 13,758361
17 Spanish_Extremadura @ 13,866172
18 Hinxton4 @ 13,901806
19 Finnish @ 13,994664
20 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 14,13577
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,705575
2 Finnish+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,772278
3 Erzya+Spanish_Canarias @ 4,277369
4 Moksha+Spanish_Canarias @ 4,515721
5 Chuvash+Spanish_Canarias @ 5,026198
6 Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 5,123217
7 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Murcia @ 5,197984
8 Finnish+Spanish_Murcia @ 5,257348
9 Erzya+Spanish_Murcia @ 5,669254
10 Moksha+Spanish_Murcia @ 5,763284
11 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Extremadura @ 5,973169
12 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Galicia @ 6,126186
13 Chuvash+Spanish_Murcia @ 6,151838
14 Spanish_Murcia+Tatar @ 6,210863
15 Mari+Spanish_Canarias @ 6,213286
16 Finnish+Spanish_Extremadura @ 6,244876
17 Finnish+Spanish_Galicia @ 6,304935
18 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 6,348528
19 Erzya+Spanish_Extremadura @ 6,37904
20 Chuvash+Spanish_Extremadura @ 6,434626
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Hinxton4 @ 2,065499
2 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Hinxton4 +25% Mari @ 2,37822
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% Chuvash +25% Moroccan @ 2,680189
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% Chuvash +25% Tunisian @ 2,859245
5 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% West_Scottish @ 2,945959
6 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tatar @ 2,970763
7 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Lithuanian @ 2,988547
8 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Orcadian @ 2,998878
9 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Mari @ 3,019775
10 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% SE_English @ 3,044543
11 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,045966
12 50% Hinxton4 +25% Moroccan +25% Tatar @ 3,054501
13 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Swedish @ 3,065748
14 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Norwegian @ 3,072335
15 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% LBA_Hungary @ 3,072633
16 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% SW_English @ 3,07573
17 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 3,08743
18 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Mari +25% West_Scottish @ 3,118237
19 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Mari +25% Orcadian @ 3,151559
20 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Mari +25% SE_English @ 3,152295
2111194 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:

[HellLander87]

I calculated my results using the ratios of K8/K7 averages.I used the greek thessaly averages but the ratios of the averages for other populations are almost identical too.
I checked this method with individual results from the spreadsheet and it gives pretty accurate results.Differences are less than 1%.

Uncle
WHG 0.31
NE 0.546
ANE 0.1054

Me
WHG 28.32
NE 58.88
ANE 10.5

[Longbowman]

I calculated my results using the ratios of K8/K7 averages.I used the greek thessaly averages but the ratios of the averages for other populations are almost identical too.
I checked this method with individual results from the spreadsheet and it gives pretty accurate results.Differences are less than 1%.

Uncle
WHG 0.31
NE 0.546
ANE 0.1054

Me
WHG 28.32
NE 58.88
ANE 10.5

I don't think you can go by that. You'd actually have to run the calculator.

[Black Wolf]

I don't think you can go by that. You'd actually have to run the calculator.

I agree.

[Catkin]

My results:

ANE: 15.09%
South Eurasian: 0.13%
Near Eastern: 39.04%
East Eurasian: 0%
WHG: 45.52%
Oceanian: 0.16%
Pygmy: 0.06%
Sub-Saharan: 0%

ANE+WHG: 60.61%


Lower Bound NE:
ANE: 14.94%
South Eurasian: 0.38%
Near Eastern: 35.28%
East Eurasian: 0%
WHG: 49.00%
Oceanian: 0.26%
Pygmy: 0.14%
Sub-Saharan: 0%

[Graham]

Catkin I will give you a closer pca sometime like I did with Jackson.
Like this. Perhaps with Utah german. i'll try it first.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?153974-Eurogenes-K8-Results&p=3275712&viewfull=1#post3275712

[Catkin]

Catkin I will give you a closer pca sometime like I did with Jackson.
Like this. Perhaps with Utah german. i'll try it first.
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?153974-Eurogenes-K8-Results&p=3275712&viewfull=1#post3275712

That would be great, thanks! :)

[Black Wolf]

It would be interesting to see people's total Mesolithic hunter-gatherer WHG+ANE scores compared to their early Neolithic farmer Near_Eastern scores. Use your scores from the first more conservative K8 test. Do not use your scores from the Lower-Bound Near_Eastern one. Basically if you score more WHG+ANE compared to Near_Eastern you have overall more hunter-gatherer ancestry. And if you score more Near_Eastern than WHG+ANE you have more overall early Neolithic farmer ancestry. I have discussed this with David himself and he agrees with me. Here are my results below.

WHG+ANE: 54.1%

Near_Eastern: 41.9%

So overall I am more hunter-gatherer than I am farmer. :)

[Longbowman]

It would be interesting to see people's total Mesolithic hunter-gatherer WHG+ANE scores compared to their early Neolithic farmer Near_Eastern scores. Basically if you score more WHG+ANE compared to Near_Eastern you have overall more hunter-gatherer ancestry. And if you score more Near_Eastern than WHG+ANE you have more overall early Neolithic farmer ancestry. I have discussed this with David himself and he agrees with me. Here are my results below.

WHG+ANE: 54.1%

Near_Eastern: 41.9%

So overall I am more hunter-gatherer than I am farmer. :)

This was definitely my idea. Barbarian meridional.

You're still 42% civilised so I guess we can be friends.

[Black Wolf]

This was definitely my idea. Barbarian meridional.

You're still 42% civilised so I guess we can be friends.

Yes I have significant ''Civy'' ancestry but as you can see my ''Civ'' friend I am more "Barb'' overall. Please do not cannibalize me if you see me hunting in the forest near your fields. :P

[Thrax]

37.5569% hunter-gatherer
61.1825% farmer

[Graham]

That would be great, thanks! :)

Something that I just noticed. You have looots of WHG. I don't think you'll sit with the majority of Southern England.

Edit: I read the second list by mistake, my bad.

[Catkin]

Something that I just noticed. You have looots of WHG. I don't think you'll sit with the majority of Southern England.

Edit: I read the second list by mistake, my bad.

ANE seems pretty high though I think- 2nd highest out of all the SE and SW English.

[Graham]

That would be great, thanks! :)

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zps8408452f.png

[Catkin]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zps8408452f.png

Thank you! :). Interesting, there seems to be a little cluster around me- I wonder what their ancestry is a couple of generations back. David said my results fell as east English/east Scottish, and that seems about right. This would make sense with my other Eurogenes results where my averages seem to put me in the North Sea off of Northern England/Scotland. Not sure why I have a bit of a NE pull to my results.

[Graham]

Polako would need some Northumbrians/East Scots to know what they score. Kinda rare you know. :) My mum would be the closest he could get( even if she's 1/4 Shetlander) . But am no paying out. :P

You are in with Orcadians and South England. Somewhere in-between. :P

[Jackson]

Total WHG+ANE: 56.93%

Total Near Eastern: 41.87%

Asian: 0.62%

Sub-Saharan African: 0.57%

A little bit more civilized than the average Brit :P.

[Catkin]

It would be good if there were a few more West Scottish samples too- it's difficult to read too much into the positions of just 4, especially when they are so spread out. One could be an outlier and we wouldn't know.

[Black Wolf]

Total WHG+ANE: 56.93%

Total Near Eastern: 41.87%

Asian: 0.62%

Sub-Saharan African: 0.57%

A little bit more civilized than the average Brit :P.

Barbarian/Hunter-Gatherer power buddy! :D :P

[Grace O'Malley]

It would be good if there were a few more West Scottish samples too- it's difficult to read too much into the positions of just 4, especially when they are so spread out. One could be an outlier and we wouldn't know.

How long did it take to get your results Catkin? I've just sent off my info to Davidski.

[Catkin]

How long did it take to get your results Catkin? I've just sent off my info to Davidski.

I sent it off on Saturday, and got the results back early Monday morning. Will be good to see your results too :)

[Grace O'Malley]

I sent it off on Saturday, and got the results back early Monday morning. Will be good to see your results too :)

This genetics stuff is like a drug and I'm hopelessly addicted at the moment. :)

[Catkin]

This genetics stuff is like a drug and I'm hopelessly addicted at the moment. :)

Yes.:) I wish I had more relatives to test! I would have loved to have been able to have tested my grandparents, I think they all had quite different backgrounds.

[StonyArabia]

Where is this test, I want to do mine lol

[Graham]

I have had two tests for ages, but am too shy to ask them! DNA would be like witchcraft to my grannie.

[Catkin]

I have had two tests for ages, but am too shy to ask them! It would be like witchcraft to my grannie.

Aw, yes it's a strange thing to explain to people anyway, and the older generation more so I think. The only relative I have left from my grandparents' generation is a sister of my grandad, but she has dementia. She was always a very feisty Irish woman and she is even more so now! I think she'd happily spit, but not in a tube!

[Jackson]

I have had two tests for ages, but am too shy to ask them! DNA would be like witchcraft to my grannie.

Mine were pretty cooperative, i don't think they fully understood but i gave them a good run-down, just try that and see what happens. I'm sure they'd be reasonable at least. :)

[Grace O'Malley]

Where is this test, I want to do mine lol

It's the new Eurogenes K8 test. It is explained in his blog here.

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com.au/2014/12/crowdfunding-for-2015-new-test.html

[SwampThing26]

My results:

ANE 14.7%
South_Eurasian .47%
Near_Eastern 40.4%
East_Eurasian .19%
WHG 42.3%
Oceanian .8%
Pygmy .55%
Sub-Saharan .49%

WHG+ANE 57%
http://i58.tinypic.com/2dk02kh.jpg

[SwampThing26]

How did some of you get the oracle results a few pages back?

[Longbowman]

How did some of you get the oracle results a few pages back?

Ask Hevo nicely.

[Graham]

Or threaten him. Sounds better.

[SwampThing26]

I am on my mobile right now i will do it later this evening.

Would you be so kind as to do mine up above please?

[Graham]

Would you be so kind as to do mine up above ya fucking cunt?

advice taking.

[Mark]

I'm in the S. European cluster.

http://i.imgur.com/kEnyBVk.png

http://i.imgur.com/tRCYNSu.png

ANE 0.08205

South_Eurasian 0.000157
Near_Eastern 0.675406
East_Eurasian 0.013295
WHG 0.205258
Oceanian 0.001156
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.022668

Lower bound NE

ANE 0.080953
South_Eurasian 0.000318
Near_Eastern 0.657468
East_Eurasian 0.013274
WHG 0.224437
Oceanian 0.001246
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.022294

[Graham]

ANE 0.086592
South_Eurasian 0.000000
Near_Eastern 0.679224
East_Eurasian 0.021113
WHG 0.192
Oceanian 0.000000
Pygmy 0.003569
Sub-Saharan 0.017481




ANE 0.08205
South_Eurasian 0.000157
Near_Eastern 0.675406
East_Eurasian 0.013295
WHG 0.205258
Oceanian 0.001156
Pygmy 0.000000
Sub-Saharan 0.022668



Jewish genes strong.

[Longbowman]

Jewish genes stronk.

God's sake Graham, get it right.

[Graham]

God's sake Graham, get it right.

Next time there is a fee for genetic results. Youse two, split the money. Half price, reasonably similar results. Cha ching!

[Longbowman]

Next time there is a fee for genetic results. Youse two, split the money. Half price, reasonably similar results. Cha ching!

Add us on 23andme, the similarity is (partially) coincidental ;)

[gold_fenix]

ratio betwenen WHG + ANE and NE

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e87/Divad_Ocsarrac/maparatio_zps3706440e.jpg

[Hevo]

Would you be so kind as to do mine up above please?

Well, where is my €20?



JK:P

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Utah_USA @ 2,499041
2 Hungarian @ 2,924576
3 Utah_German @ 2,932427
4 SW_English @ 3,046562
5 SE_English @ 3,101431
6 Moldavian @ 3,524234
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,892691
8 West_Scottish @ 4,08674
9 Orcadian @ 4,200054
10 Croatian @ 5,170708
11 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 5,763889
12 French @ 6,040822
13 Serbian_Bosnia @ 6,371564
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6,463132
15 LBA_Hungary @ 6,656487
16 Utah_Scandinavian @ 6,709105
17 Norwegian @ 6,714344
18 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 6,974759
19 Bosnian @ 7,302065
20 Hinxton4 @ 7,969408
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Croatian+West_Scottish @ 1,317171
2 Bosnian+Hinxton4 @ 1,359654
3 Hungarian+Utah_German @ 1,39462
4 Hungarian+West_Scottish @ 1,39987
5 Lithuanian+Macedonian @ 1,422274
6 French+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,424103
7 Moldavian+SW_English @ 1,485204
8 Croatian+Orcadian @ 1,487631
9 Hungarian+Orcadian @ 1,494171
10 Moldavian+Utah_USA @ 1,518197
11 Moldavian+SE_English @ 1,525525
12 Hungarian+SE_English @ 1,526007
13 Croatian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,529239
14 Croatian+Norwegian @ 1,53123
15 Hungarian+Utah_USA @ 1,533594
16 Bosnian+Norwegian @ 1,538965
17 Bosnian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,539693
18 Hungarian+SW_English @ 1,560692
19 Russian_Smolensk+Serbian @ 1,577394
20 Belorussian+Serbian @ 1,60429
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +25% Romanian +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,140787
2 50% West_Scottish +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Lithuanian @ 1,143917
3 50% West_Scottish +25% Norwegian +25% Romanian @ 1,144865
4 50% Utah_Scandinavian +25% Greek +25% Lithuanian @ 1,163665
5 50% Norwegian +25% Greek +25% Lithuanian @ 1,167759
6 50% West_Scottish +25% Hinxton4 +25% Romanian @ 1,168125
7 50% Lithuanian +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Utah_USA @ 1,171184
8 50% West_Scottish +25% Serbian +25% West_Scottish @ 1,195153
9 50% West_Scottish +25% Montenegrin +25% West_Scottish @ 1,199859
10 50% West_Scottish +25% Croatian +25% Hungarian @ 1,201312
11 50% Hinxton4 +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Lithuanian @ 1,205553
12 50% Serbian +25% Lithuanian +25% West_Scottish @ 1,207072
13 50% Hinxton4 +25% Macedonian +25% Moldavian @ 1,210558
14 50% West_Scottish +25% Bulgarian +25% Hinxton4 @ 1,210892
15 50% West_Scottish +25% Romanian +25% Swedish @ 1,211211
16 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek +25% Hungarian @ 1,211964
17 50% Montenegrin +25% Lithuanian +25% Swedish @ 1,217727
18 50% Montenegrin +25% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian @ 1,218166
19 50% West_Scottish +25% Macedonian +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,22051
20 50% Swedish +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Lithuanian @ 1,222246
1068136 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Polish @ 1,081029
2 Greek+Lithuanian+Swedish+West_Scottish @ 1,116926
3 French+Georgian_Imer+LBA_Hungary+Motala12 @ 1,134244
4 Greek+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+West_Scottish @ 1,138453
5 Romanian+Utah_Scandinavian+West_Scottish+West_Scot tish @ 1,140787
6 Belorussian+Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian @ 1,141137
7 Greek_Thessaly+Lithuanian+West_Scottish+West_Scott ish @ 1,143917
8 Norwegian+Romanian+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,144865
9 Polish+Romanian+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,147837
10 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Norwegian @ 1,148883
11 Polish+Romanian+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 1,149084
12 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Russian_Vorone z @ 1,15029
13 Greek+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Polish @ 1,151361
14 Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Norwegian+Swedish @ 1,151783
15 Greek+Lithuanian+Polish+West_Scottish @ 1,152513
16 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Utah_Scandinav ian @ 1,153674
17 Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Swedish+Utah_Scandinavi an @ 1,153785
18 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Swedish @ 1,156422
19 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolen sk @ 1,15709
20 Georgian_Imer+Motala12+Spanish_Cantabria+West_Scot tish @ 1,159692
21 Greek+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,159878
22 Polish+Romanian+Utah_German+West_Scottish @ 1,162071
23 Belorussian+Greek+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 1,162728
24 Greek+Lithuanian+Utah_Scandinavian+Utah_Scandinavi an @ 1,163665
25 French+Lithuanian+Romanian+West_Scottish @ 1,163702
26 Greek+Lithuanian+Norwegian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,163728
27 Greek+Lithuanian+Norwegian+Norwegian @ 1,167759
28 Hinxton4+Romanian+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,168125
29 Belorussian+Romanian+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,169541
30 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Montenegrin+Serbian @ 1,16976
31 Greek+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk+West_Scottish @ 1,170249
32 Orcadian+Romanian+Utah_Scandinavian+West_Scottish @ 1,170787
33 Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Utah_USA @ 1,171184
34 Polish+Romanian+Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 1,172402
35 Belorussian+Greek+Lithuanian+West_Scottish @ 1,172737
36 Norwegian+Orcadian+Romanian+West_Scottish @ 1,172843
37 Croatian+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Romanian @ 1,173342
38 Georgian_Imer+Hinxton4+Motala12+Spanish_Castilla_L a_Mancha @ 1,173501
39 Georgian_Imer+Motala12+Orcadian+Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,175193
40 Greek+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Swedish @ 1,176256
4254891 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 2,59093
2 SW_English @ 2,679438
3 Utah_USA @ 2,933027
4 Orcadian @ 3,321137
5 Utah_German @ 3,358799
6 Croatian @ 3,436657
7 LBA_Hungary @ 3,448226
8 West_Scottish @ 3,460954
9 French @ 3,566231
10 Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,801131
11 Hungarian @ 3,916497
12 Norwegian @ 3,965564
13 Hinxton4 @ 4,155305
14 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,174576
15 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,260726
16 Swedish @ 4,34628
17 Bosnian @ 4,364533
18 Polish @ 4,454639
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,646564
20 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,877628
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SE_English+SE_English @ 2,59093
2 SE_English+SW_English @ 2,634014
3 SW_English+SW_English @ 2,679438
4 LBA_Hungary+SE_English @ 2,702841
5 Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 2,753042
6 LBA_Hungary+SW_English @ 2,764469
7 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,766178
8 Croatian+SE_English @ 2,787078
9 SW_English+Utah_USA @ 2,808884
10 Croatian+SW_English @ 2,838678
11 LBA_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 2,847164
12 French+SE_English @ 2,850719
13 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian @ 2,871432
14 LBA_Hungary+Utah_USA @ 2,874288
15 French+SW_English @ 2,907486
16 Utah_USA+Utah_USA @ 2,933027
17 Orcadian+SE_English @ 2,965344
18 SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,973459
19 Croatian+Utah_USA @ 2,993808
20 Orcadian+SW_English @ 2,994015
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 2,557691
2 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SW_English @ 2,585056
3 50% SE_English +25% Lithuanian +25% North_Italian @ 2,603288
4 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% SW_English @ 2,61211
5 50% SW_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 2,612736
6 50% SE_English +25% Croatian +25% SE_English @ 2,61562
7 50% SE_English +25% SW_English +25% SW_English @ 2,634014
8 50% SE_English +25% Croatian +25% SW_English @ 2,640094
9 50% SW_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SW_English @ 2,640631
10 50% SE_English +25% French +25% SE_English @ 2,645803
11 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Utah_USA @ 2,649963
12 50% SW_English +25% Lithuanian +25% North_Italian @ 2,653136
13 50% SW_English +25% SE_English +25% SW_English @ 2,656498
14 50% SE_English +25% Croatian +25% LBA_Hungary @ 2,658403
15 50% SW_English +25% Croatian +25% SE_English @ 2,66518
16 50% SE_English +25% French +25% SW_English @ 2,671841
17 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% Utah_USA @ 2,679705
18 50% SE_English +25% Kosovar +25% Lithuanian @ 2,690595
19 50% SW_English +25% Croatian +25% SW_English @ 2,690737
20 50% SE_English +25% Montenegrin +25% SE_English @ 2,693536
1725010 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,557691
2 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,585056
3 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,59093
4 Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,603288
5 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,61211
6 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,612736
7 Croatian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,61562
8 Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,627897
9 SE_English+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,634014
10 Croatian+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,640094
11 LBA_Hungary+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,640631
12 French+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,645803
13 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,649963
14 Lithuanian+North_Italian+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,653136
15 SE_English+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,656498
16 Croatian+LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,658403
17 Croatian+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,66518
18 LBA_Hungary+Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English @ 2,671701
19 French+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,671841
20 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 2,676698
21 SW_English+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,679438
22 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,679705
23 Croatian+LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,687847
24 Kosovar+Lithuanian+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,690595
25 Croatian+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,690737
26 Montenegrin+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,693536
27 French+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,698297
28 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,700619
29 SE_English+SE_English+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 2,700955
30 LBA_Hungary+Lithuanian+North_Italian+SW_English @ 2,70106
31 Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,702143
32 LBA_Hungary+LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,702841
33 LBA_Hungary+SW_English+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 2,703639
34 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,705961
35 Kosovar+LBA_Hungary+Lithuanian+SE_English @ 2,706459
36 LBA_Hungary+Lithuanian+Macedonian+SE_English @ 2,709262
37 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 2,709264
38 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,713174
39 Kosovar+Lithuanian+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,713491
40 Macedonian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,716718
15575322 iterations.

[SwampThing26]

Well, where is my €20?



JK:P

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Utah_USA @ 2,499041
2 Hungarian @ 2,924576
3 Utah_German @ 2,932427
4 SW_English @ 3,046562
5 SE_English @ 3,101431
6 Moldavian @ 3,524234
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,892691
8 West_Scottish @ 4,08674
9 Orcadian @ 4,200054
10 Croatian @ 5,170708
11 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 5,763889
12 French @ 6,040822
13 Serbian_Bosnia @ 6,371564
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6,463132
15 LBA_Hungary @ 6,656487
16 Utah_Scandinavian @ 6,709105
17 Norwegian @ 6,714344
18 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 6,974759
19 Bosnian @ 7,302065
20 Hinxton4 @ 7,969408
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Croatian+West_Scottish @ 1,317171
2 Bosnian+Hinxton4 @ 1,359654
3 Hungarian+Utah_German @ 1,39462
4 Hungarian+West_Scottish @ 1,39987
5 Lithuanian+Macedonian @ 1,422274
6 French+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,424103
7 Moldavian+SW_English @ 1,485204
8 Croatian+Orcadian @ 1,487631
9 Hungarian+Orcadian @ 1,494171
10 Moldavian+Utah_USA @ 1,518197
11 Moldavian+SE_English @ 1,525525
12 Hungarian+SE_English @ 1,526007
13 Croatian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,529239
14 Croatian+Norwegian @ 1,53123
15 Hungarian+Utah_USA @ 1,533594
16 Bosnian+Norwegian @ 1,538965
17 Bosnian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,539693
18 Hungarian+SW_English @ 1,560692
19 Russian_Smolensk+Serbian @ 1,577394
20 Belorussian+Serbian @ 1,60429
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +25% Romanian +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,140787
2 50% West_Scottish +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Lithuanian @ 1,143917
3 50% West_Scottish +25% Norwegian +25% Romanian @ 1,144865
4 50% Utah_Scandinavian +25% Greek +25% Lithuanian @ 1,163665
5 50% Norwegian +25% Greek +25% Lithuanian @ 1,167759
6 50% West_Scottish +25% Hinxton4 +25% Romanian @ 1,168125
7 50% Lithuanian +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Utah_USA @ 1,171184
8 50% West_Scottish +25% Serbian +25% West_Scottish @ 1,195153
9 50% West_Scottish +25% Montenegrin +25% West_Scottish @ 1,199859
10 50% West_Scottish +25% Croatian +25% Hungarian @ 1,201312
11 50% Hinxton4 +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Lithuanian @ 1,205553
12 50% Serbian +25% Lithuanian +25% West_Scottish @ 1,207072
13 50% Hinxton4 +25% Macedonian +25% Moldavian @ 1,210558
14 50% West_Scottish +25% Bulgarian +25% Hinxton4 @ 1,210892
15 50% West_Scottish +25% Romanian +25% Swedish @ 1,211211
16 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek +25% Hungarian @ 1,211964
17 50% Montenegrin +25% Lithuanian +25% Swedish @ 1,217727
18 50% Montenegrin +25% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian @ 1,218166
19 50% West_Scottish +25% Macedonian +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,22051
20 50% Swedish +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Lithuanian @ 1,222246
1068136 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Polish @ 1,081029
2 Greek+Lithuanian+Swedish+West_Scottish @ 1,116926
3 French+Georgian_Imer+LBA_Hungary+Motala12 @ 1,134244
4 Greek+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+West_Scottish @ 1,138453
5 Romanian+Utah_Scandinavian+West_Scottish+West_Scot tish @ 1,140787
6 Belorussian+Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian @ 1,141137
7 Greek_Thessaly+Lithuanian+West_Scottish+West_Scott ish @ 1,143917
8 Norwegian+Romanian+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,144865
9 Polish+Romanian+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,147837
10 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Norwegian @ 1,148883
11 Polish+Romanian+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 1,149084
12 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Russian_Vorone z @ 1,15029
13 Greek+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Polish @ 1,151361
14 Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Norwegian+Swedish @ 1,151783
15 Greek+Lithuanian+Polish+West_Scottish @ 1,152513
16 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Utah_Scandinav ian @ 1,153674
17 Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Swedish+Utah_Scandinavi an @ 1,153785
18 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Swedish @ 1,156422
19 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolen sk @ 1,15709
20 Georgian_Imer+Motala12+Spanish_Cantabria+West_Scot tish @ 1,159692
21 Greek+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,159878
22 Polish+Romanian+Utah_German+West_Scottish @ 1,162071
23 Belorussian+Greek+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 1,162728
24 Greek+Lithuanian+Utah_Scandinavian+Utah_Scandinavi an @ 1,163665
25 French+Lithuanian+Romanian+West_Scottish @ 1,163702
26 Greek+Lithuanian+Norwegian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,163728
27 Greek+Lithuanian+Norwegian+Norwegian @ 1,167759
28 Hinxton4+Romanian+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,168125
29 Belorussian+Romanian+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,169541
30 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Montenegrin+Serbian @ 1,16976
31 Greek+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk+West_Scottish @ 1,170249
32 Orcadian+Romanian+Utah_Scandinavian+West_Scottish @ 1,170787
33 Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Utah_USA @ 1,171184
34 Polish+Romanian+Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 1,172402
35 Belorussian+Greek+Lithuanian+West_Scottish @ 1,172737
36 Norwegian+Orcadian+Romanian+West_Scottish @ 1,172843
37 Croatian+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Romanian @ 1,173342
38 Georgian_Imer+Hinxton4+Motala12+Spanish_Castilla_L a_Mancha @ 1,173501
39 Georgian_Imer+Motala12+Orcadian+Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,175193
40 Greek+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Swedish @ 1,176256
4254891 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 2,59093
2 SW_English @ 2,679438
3 Utah_USA @ 2,933027
4 Orcadian @ 3,321137
5 Utah_German @ 3,358799
6 Croatian @ 3,436657
7 LBA_Hungary @ 3,448226
8 West_Scottish @ 3,460954
9 French @ 3,566231
10 Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,801131
11 Hungarian @ 3,916497
12 Norwegian @ 3,965564
13 Hinxton4 @ 4,155305
14 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,174576
15 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,260726
16 Swedish @ 4,34628
17 Bosnian @ 4,364533
18 Polish @ 4,454639
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,646564
20 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,877628
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SE_English+SE_English @ 2,59093
2 SE_English+SW_English @ 2,634014
3 SW_English+SW_English @ 2,679438
4 LBA_Hungary+SE_English @ 2,702841
5 Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 2,753042
6 LBA_Hungary+SW_English @ 2,764469
7 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,766178
8 Croatian+SE_English @ 2,787078
9 SW_English+Utah_USA @ 2,808884
10 Croatian+SW_English @ 2,838678
11 LBA_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 2,847164
12 French+SE_English @ 2,850719
13 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian @ 2,871432
14 LBA_Hungary+Utah_USA @ 2,874288
15 French+SW_English @ 2,907486
16 Utah_USA+Utah_USA @ 2,933027
17 Orcadian+SE_English @ 2,965344
18 SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,973459
19 Croatian+Utah_USA @ 2,993808
20 Orcadian+SW_English @ 2,994015
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 2,557691
2 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SW_English @ 2,585056
3 50% SE_English +25% Lithuanian +25% North_Italian @ 2,603288
4 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% SW_English @ 2,61211
5 50% SW_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 2,612736
6 50% SE_English +25% Croatian +25% SE_English @ 2,61562
7 50% SE_English +25% SW_English +25% SW_English @ 2,634014
8 50% SE_English +25% Croatian +25% SW_English @ 2,640094
9 50% SW_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SW_English @ 2,640631
10 50% SE_English +25% French +25% SE_English @ 2,645803
11 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Utah_USA @ 2,649963
12 50% SW_English +25% Lithuanian +25% North_Italian @ 2,653136
13 50% SW_English +25% SE_English +25% SW_English @ 2,656498
14 50% SE_English +25% Croatian +25% LBA_Hungary @ 2,658403
15 50% SW_English +25% Croatian +25% SE_English @ 2,66518
16 50% SE_English +25% French +25% SW_English @ 2,671841
17 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% Utah_USA @ 2,679705
18 50% SE_English +25% Kosovar +25% Lithuanian @ 2,690595
19 50% SW_English +25% Croatian +25% SW_English @ 2,690737
20 50% SE_English +25% Montenegrin +25% SE_English @ 2,693536
1725010 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,557691
2 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,585056
3 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,59093
4 Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,603288
5 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,61211
6 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,612736
7 Croatian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,61562
8 Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,627897
9 SE_English+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,634014
10 Croatian+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,640094
11 LBA_Hungary+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,640631
12 French+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,645803
13 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,649963
14 Lithuanian+North_Italian+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,653136
15 SE_English+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,656498
16 Croatian+LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,658403
17 Croatian+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,66518
18 LBA_Hungary+Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English @ 2,671701
19 French+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,671841
20 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 2,676698
21 SW_English+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,679438
22 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,679705
23 Croatian+LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,687847
24 Kosovar+Lithuanian+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,690595
25 Croatian+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,690737
26 Montenegrin+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,693536
27 French+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,698297
28 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,700619
29 SE_English+SE_English+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 2,700955
30 LBA_Hungary+Lithuanian+North_Italian+SW_English @ 2,70106
31 Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,702143
32 LBA_Hungary+LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,702841
33 LBA_Hungary+SW_English+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 2,703639
34 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,705961
35 Kosovar+LBA_Hungary+Lithuanian+SE_English @ 2,706459
36 LBA_Hungary+Lithuanian+Macedonian+SE_English @ 2,709262
37 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 2,709264
38 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,713174
39 Kosovar+Lithuanian+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,713491
40 Macedonian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,716718
15575322 iterations.


Thank you sir! Much appreciated!

[Grace O'Malley]

I've had a few genetic results today. On FTDNA I came back 100% British Isles but my K8 is much more interesting.

ANE 0.158429
South_Eurasian 0.00305
Near_Eastern 0.384229
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.453869
Oceanian 0.000393
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



Lower bound NE

ANE 0.156524
South_Eurasian 0.005765
Near_Eastern 0.346246
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.489913
Oceanian 0.001522
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Hevo you lovely man, can you please do an Oracle for me please? I'll post the maps in a minute.

[Grace O'Malley]

Adding maps

http://s4.postimg.org/l9gkh6ox9/K8_No_1.png

http://s28.postimg.org/3vggfel31/K8_No_2.png

I wonder why I'm so far east?

[Thrax]

I've had a few genetic results today. On FTDNA I came back 100% British Isles but my K8 is much more interesting.

ANE 0.158429
South_Eurasian 0.00305
Near_Eastern 0.384229
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.453869
Oceanian 0.000393
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



Lower bound NE

ANE 0.156524
South_Eurasian 0.005765
Near_Eastern 0.346246
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.489913
Oceanian 0.001522
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Hevo you lovely man, can you please do an Oracle for me please?



I wonder why I'm so far east?

Maps?

[Graham]

..
You are within Orkney & Argyll..

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zps57cd3156.png

[Grace O'Malley]

Just read Davidski's email and he said "Your ANE seems a bit inflated for a Northwest European, and this is dragging you east on the plots." Interesting because I didn't tell him where I was from.

[Graham]

The Iron Age Brit is quite WHG-ANE Grace, which gives a misleading picture of it looking Norse... South English has shifted towards France in Near Eastern. You fit right in with Western Scots imo. Where the Irish would probably fit.


ANE
West_Scottish 0.16556
West_Scottish 0.159079
Grace O'Malley 0.158429
West_Scottish 0.144201
West_Scottish 0.139199

[Grace O'Malley]

The Iron Age Brit is quite WHG-ANE Grace, which gives a misleading picture of it looking Norse... South English has shifted towards France in Near Eastern. You fit right in with Western Scots imo. Where the Irish would probably fit.


ANE
West_Scottish 0.16556
West_Scottish 0.159079
Grace O'Malley 0.158429
West_Scottish 0.144201
West_Scottish 0.139199

Thanks Graham. That makes a lot of sense. I did email him afterwards and tell him I'm Irish so he might realise then its not that unusual.

[Hevo]

I've had a few genetic results today. On FTDNA I came back 100% British Isles but my K8 is much more interesting.

ANE 0.158429
South_Eurasian 0.00305
Near_Eastern 0.384229
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.453869
Oceanian 0.000393
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



Lower bound NE

ANE 0.156524
South_Eurasian 0.005765
Near_Eastern 0.346246
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.489913
Oceanian 0.001522
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Hevo you lovely man, can you please do an Oracle for me please? I'll post the maps in a minute.

How could i say no to you?:) Here are your results.



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 West_Scottish @ 1,050536
2 Orcadian @ 1,482466
3 Utah_German @ 2,446733
4 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,586507
5 SE_English @ 2,759955
6 SW_English @ 2,941159
7 Norwegian @ 2,971091
8 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 3,021574
9 Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,023052
10 Utah_USA @ 3,102588
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3,672032
12 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 4,050441
13 Hinxton4 @ 4,102933
14 Russian_Voronez @ 4,644561
15 Polish @ 4,763066
16 Swedish @ 4,78929
17 Russian_Orel @ 5,480701
18 Belorussian @ 5,524456
19 Russian_Smolensk @ 5,659383
20 Russian_Kursk @ 5,748523
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,050536
2 Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 1,234951
3 Orcadian+Orcadian @ 1,482466
4 Norwegian+Utah_USA @ 1,569408
5 SE_English+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,571166
6 SW_English+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,57308
7 Utah_Scandinavian+Utah_USA @ 1,627334
8 Utah_German+West_Scottish @ 1,636736
9 Norwegian+Utah_German @ 1,64093
10 Orcadian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,642618
11 Polish+Utah_USA @ 1,645743
12 SE_English+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,652583
13 Ukrainian_Lviv+West_Scottish @ 1,659498
14 Russian_Voronez+Utah_USA @ 1,66526
15 Norwegian+SE_English @ 1,668871
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod+Utah_USA @ 1,680035
17 SW_English+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,683771
18 Norwegian+SW_English @ 1,692037
19 Utah_German+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,700176
20 Russian_Voronez+SW_English @ 1,715484
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian +25% Macedonian @ 1,101542
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian +25% Romanian @ 1,1308
3 50% West_Scottish +25% Orcadian +25% West_Scottish @ 1,132684
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% Bulgarian +25% Lithuanian @ 1,165954
5 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Hinxton4 @ 1,188026
6 50% Lithuanian +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tuscan @ 1,201914
7 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,208224
8 50% Hinxton4 +25% Bosnian +25% Polish @ 1,226542
9 50% Orcadian +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish @ 1,234951
10 50% Lithuanian +25% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar @ 1,251734
11 50% West_Scottish +25% SE_English +25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,257254
12 50% West_Scottish +25% Polish +25% Utah_USA @ 1,257514
13 50% West_Scottish +25% SW_English +25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,265783
14 50% Polish +25% French +25% West_Scottish @ 1,266213
15 50% Lithuanian +25% Polish +25% Tuscan @ 1,267198
16 50% West_Scottish +25% Ukrainian_Lviv +25% West_Scottish @ 1,281818
17 50% West_Scottish +25% Norwegian +25% Utah_USA @ 1,284216
18 50% West_Scottish +25% Norwegian +25% West_Scottish @ 1,284858
19 50% West_Scottish +25% Russian_Voronez +25% Utah_USA @ 1,28997
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hungarian +25% West_Scottish @ 1,291077
1115150 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 West_Scottish+West_Scottish+West_Scottish+West_Sco ttish @ 1,050536
2 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Montenegrin+West_Scottish @ 1,07733
3 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Macedonian @ 1,101542
4 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Romanian @ 1,1308
5 Orcadian+West_Scottish+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,132684
6 Croatian+Hinxton4+Polish+West_Scottish @ 1,147544
7 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Montenegrin+Orcadian @ 1,149338
8 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Serbian+West_Scottish @ 1,156496
9 Bulgarian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian @ 1,165954
10 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Macedonian+Norwegian @ 1,17517
11 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 1,188026
12 Belorussian+Croatian+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 1,198512
13 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Tuscan @ 1,201914
14 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Macedonian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,206569
15 Croatian+Hinxton4+Russian_Smolensk+West_Scottish @ 1,207434
16 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,208224
17 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hungarian+Lithuanian @ 1,209269
18 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Macedonian+Polish @ 1,216103
19 Lithuanian+Montenegrin+Swedish+West_Scottish @ 1,216459
20 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Serbian @ 1,217435
21 Croatian+Hinxton4+Orcadian+Polish @ 1,218223
22 Bosnian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Polish @ 1,226542
23 Hinxton4+Hungarian+Polish+West_Scottish @ 1,227376
24 Croatian+Lithuanian+Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 1,231564
25 Orcadian+Orcadian+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,234951
26 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Montenegrin+Norwegian @ 1,245033
27 Hinxton4+Hungarian+Norwegian+West_Scottish @ 1,246971
28 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Macedonian+Swedish @ 1,247436
29 Hinxton4+Kosovar+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 1,251734
30 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Norwegian+Romanian @ 1,253127
31 Croatian+Lithuanian+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 1,253366
32 Lithuanian+Montenegrin+Orcadian+Polish @ 1,254782
33 Croatian+Lithuanian+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,257116
34 SE_English+Ukrainian_Belgorod+West_Scottish+West_S cottish @ 1,257254
35 Polish+Utah_USA+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,257514
36 Belorussian+Croatian+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 1,25814
37 Lithuanian+Montenegrin+Polish+West_Scottish @ 1,260156
38 Hinxton4+Hungarian+Polish+SE_English @ 1,262707
39 SW_English+Ukrainian_Belgorod+West_Scottish+West_S cottish @ 1,265783
40 French+Polish+Polish+West_Scottish @ 1,266213
4828114 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hinxton4 @ 3,495078
2 SE_English @ 3,511408
3 SW_English @ 3,629672
4 Orcadian @ 3,638338
5 West_Scottish @ 3,659019
6 Utah_USA @ 3,785275
7 Norwegian @ 3,924931
8 Utah_German @ 4,034308
9 Polish @ 4,078414
10 Swedish @ 4,114684
11 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,148445
12 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,459232
13 Hungarian @ 4,565884
14 Belorussian @ 4,573914
15 Russian_Smolensk @ 4,590099
16 Croatian @ 4,596166
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,609591
18 LBA_Hungary @ 4,672761
19 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,703909
20 French @ 4,723538
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,495078
2 Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,499199
3 SE_English+SE_English @ 3,511408
4 Hinxton4+SW_English @ 3,545481
5 Orcadian+SE_English @ 3,571071
6 SE_English+SW_English @ 3,572135
7 Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 3,576948
8 SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,582435
9 Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 3,589831
10 Hinxton4+Utah_USA @ 3,603291
11 Orcadian+SW_English @ 3,623479
12 SW_English+SW_English @ 3,629672
13 SW_English+West_Scottish @ 3,632271
14 Orcadian+Orcadian @ 3,638338
15 Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 3,651172
16 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,655273
17 Polish+SE_English @ 3,656446
18 West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 3,659019
19 Norwegian+SE_English @ 3,66115
20 Orcadian+Utah_USA @ 3,6955
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,474925
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English @ 3,496887
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English +25% SE_English @ 3,499199
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary @ 3,503084
5 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Montenegrin @ 3,504887
6 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English @ 3,50505
7 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian @ 3,513846
8 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% SW_English @ 3,51693
9 50% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English +25% SW_English @ 3,52268
10 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,522915
11 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% SW_English @ 3,532002
12 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,53381
13 50% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English +25% West_Scottish @ 3,536799
14 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart @ 3,537656
15 50% Hinxton4 +25% Basque_French +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,538075
16 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% West_Scottish @ 3,53822
17 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% West_Scottish @ 3,539878
18 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% Orcadian @ 3,540352
19 50% SE_English +25% Orcadian +25% SE_English @ 3,540389
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Utah_USA @ 3,541588
1713041 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,474925
2 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,495078
3 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,496887
4 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,499199
5 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,503084
6 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Montenegrin @ 3,504887
7 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,50505
8 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,511408
9 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian @ 3,513846
10 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SW_English @ 3,51693
11 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,52268
12 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,522915
13 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,532002
14 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,53381
15 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,536799
16 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 3,537656
17 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,538075
18 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 3,53822
19 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,539878
20 Hinxton4+Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,540352
21 Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,540389
22 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Utah_USA @ 3,541588
23 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,542195
24 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,542895
25 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian+SE_English @ 3,543352
26 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Macedonian @ 3,544496
27 Polish+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,544607
28 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,545481
29 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,546288
30 Lithuanian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,550708
31 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 3,551546
32 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 3,552245
33 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,552497
34 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 3,557767
35 Hinxton4+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,558212
36 Hinxton4+SE_English+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 3,564203
37 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian+SW_English @ 3,564987
38 Hinxton4+Orcadian+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,565332
39 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,565401
40 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 3,567532
15333177 iterations.

[Thrax]

http://i59.tinypic.com/2qb57bb.png

[Grace O'Malley]

I've just received some interesting information back from Davidski about my results. I sent an email to him yesterday telling him about my Irish ancestry. He was very kind to replay back and plotted me on a map.

I had a look at your genome using pairwise similarity as opposed to ancient components like ANE, WHG etc.
You seem to be one of those Irish who cluster further east than expected in the context of West Eurasian diversity. For instance, on the attached pairwise IBS similarity plot you're placed among the Danes as well as Irish. In other words, on the West Eurasian genetic border between the Isles and Scandinavia.
So the two analyses line up more or less. It just looks like some Irish are significantly more easterly than others.

I've zoomed in so you can see where I plot. I've removed my name and put a cross.

http://i59.tinypic.com/j91nr5.jpg

[Catkin]

Just playing about today, I made a graph of ANE+WHG against Near Eastern for the British Isles results. I know it was discussed that ANE & WHG could possibly be added together. I only included the few French who were closest to the English, I was surprised there was quite a jump between the two countries.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7478/16059666060_fa6191d654_o.jpg

I just ignored the other components as their values were generally so low.

[Graham]

It kind of shows that the South East(West) English have actually moved away from the Scandinavians rather than get closer, going by Hinxton.

But really German would probably fit in nice with South English.

As you can see from the Image less Viking in Englands South. Where the samples are from

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2014/01/vk_map_whowerethey.jpeg

But your Kents & alike where influenced by both invaders & settlers from Frisians to Saxons. And perhaps the Jutes population wasn't as sustainable.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wvu_vg7fdbI/S8YFg-VHuSI/AAAAAAAAAKo/jZNW1BLZYXM/s1600/AnglesSaxonsJutesP59.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Anglo_saxon_jute_575ad.jpg

[Jackson]

It kind of shows that the South East(West) English have actually moved away from the Scandinavians rather than get closer, going by Hinxton.

But really German would probably fit in nice with South English.

As you can see from the Image less Viking in Englands South. Where the samples are from

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2014/01/vk_map_whowerethey.jpeg

But your Kents & alike where influenced by both invaders & settlers from Frisians to Saxons. And perhaps the Jutes population wasn't as sustainable.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wvu_vg7fdbI/S8YFg-VHuSI/AAAAAAAAAKo/jZNW1BLZYXM/s1600/AnglesSaxonsJutesP59.jpghttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fc/Anglo_saxon_jute_575ad.jpg

Indeed, i think also the last 1000 years has to be taken into it as well, there were known Flemish and Breton communities in Britain, particularly in England and south Wales, and i have also read that the middle classes of the middle ages gradually become more dominant genetically into the early modern period and so forth, and i would have thought these people would have been more likely to have foreign ancestry than the much poorer families. So perhaps through this contact and the increased dominance of the middle classes some of England became a bit more southern over the centuries compared to more out of the way areas? Either that or the influence of more southerly Germanic speakers has been underestimated, i have seen that the place names of England have a lot of connections to the southern half of the low countries - which are more southern genetically than north Germans/Danes and Iron Age Britons, and it has been argued that there were strong Frankish influences on parts of southern England (there were in regards to trade at least).

I might see if David will be kind enough to do one or two of my other family members as well, because me and my mother are the most southern out of all of us.

[DanielJ1eH]

How do I do this test?

[Graham]

Mine
ANE 0.135478
South_Eurasian 0.002713
Near_Eastern 0.380758
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.47196
Oceanian 0.009061
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/Graham1_zpsf0d86e5b.pnghttp://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/Graham2_zps82609a7e.png

[SwampThing26]

Mine
ANE 0.135478
South_Eurasian 0.002713
Near_Eastern 0.380758
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.47196
Oceanian 0.009061
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



.9% Oceanian just noise?

[Graham]

Yes most likely. Tests like these autsomals, you focus more on the big numbers mostly anyway.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zps273d3b83.png

[Grace O'Malley]

Here is my mums. I'll post the maps later. Can you do an Oracle for her Hevo? I'd really like to see what she gets.

ANE 0.161975
South_Eurasian 0.007057
Near_Eastern 0.386478
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.443603
Oceanian 0.000857
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



Lower bound NE

ANE 0.160113
South_Eurasian 0.009684
Near_Eastern 0.349168
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.479065
Oceanian 0.001939
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

[Longbowman]

What is it with all y'all and your weak East Asian scores? Honkies.

[Not a Cop]

Yes most likely. Tests like these autsomals, you focus more on the big numbers mostly anyway.


What is x and y in your plots? x-WHG, y-ANE?

[Thrax]

Graham added
http://i60.tinypic.com/2wdbm2q.png

[Hevo]

Here is my mums. I'll post the maps later. Can you do an Oracle for her Hevo? I'd really like to see what she gets.

ANE 0.161975
South_Eurasian 0.007057
Near_Eastern 0.386478
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.443603
Oceanian 0.000857
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



Lower bound NE

ANE 0.160113
South_Eurasian 0.009684
Near_Eastern 0.349168
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.479065
Oceanian 0.001939
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,481189
2 West_Scottish @ 1,640645
3 Orcadian @ 2,175284
4 Utah_German @ 2,369302
5 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,846756
6 SE_English @ 2,868346
7 Utah_USA @ 2,886658
8 SW_English @ 3,020147
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3,493508
10 Norwegian @ 3,888816
11 Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,922624
12 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 4,077239
13 Moldavian @ 4,961957
14 Russian_Voronez @ 5,031828
15 Hinxton4 @ 5,365756
16 Polish @ 5,505804
17 Hungarian @ 5,671863
18 Russian_Orel @ 5,764172
19 Swedish @ 5,819454
20 Russian_Kursk @ 5,895291
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Hungarian+Polish @ 0,88327
2 Lithuanian+Serbian @ 0,940563
3 Belorussian+Hungarian @ 1,081984
4 Ukrainian_Lviv+West_Scottish @ 1,140146
5 Hungarian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,179489
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod+Utah_USA @ 1,239468
7 Hinxton4+Moldavian @ 1,284615
8 Croatian+Polish_Estonian @ 1,289423
9 Orcadian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,310429
10 Hungarian+Russian_Voronez @ 1,315134
11 Croatian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,321389
12 Belorussian+Croatian @ 1,330709
13 Ukrainian_Lviv+Utah_German @ 1,35449
14 Ukrainian_Poltava+Utah_USA @ 1,419424
15 SW_English+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,43889
16 Moldavian+Norwegian @ 1,453705
17 Lithuanian+Montenegrin @ 1,457106
18 SE_English+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,460817
19 SE_English+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,462127
20 Hungarian+Swedish @ 1,46815
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek +25% Polish @ 0,672543
2 50% Lithuanian +25% Central_Greek +25% Polish @ 0,727728
3 50% Polish +25% Kosovar +25% Lithuanian @ 0,731198
4 50% Polish +25% Montenegrin +25% Polish @ 0,740179
5 50% Lithuanian +25% Belorussian +25% Greek @ 0,74373
6 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,773626
7 50% Lithuanian +25% Croatian +25% Romanian @ 0,774824
8 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% West_Scottish @ 0,776099
9 50% Lithuanian +25% Belorussian +25% Central_Greek @ 0,785813
10 50% Polish +25% Macedonian +25% Polish @ 0,790773
11 50% Lithuanian +25% Central_Greek +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,795362
12 50% Polish +25% Belorussian +25% Macedonian @ 0,795761
13 50% Lithuanian +25% Croatian +25% Macedonian @ 0,799468
14 50% Polish +25% Macedonian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,801274
15 50% Lithuanian +25% Bosnian +25% Montenegrin @ 0,806176
16 50% Polish +25% Montenegrin +25% Russian_Voronez @ 0,821803
17 50% Lithuanian +25% Central_Greek +25% Swedish @ 0,824031
18 50% West_Scottish +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Motala12 @ 0,825808
19 50% Lithuanian +25% Bulgarian +25% Croatian @ 0,832082
20 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek +25% Russian_Voronez @ 0,841472
1103500 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Polish @ 0,672543
2 Central_Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Polish @ 0,727728
3 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Polish+Polish @ 0,731198
4 Montenegrin+Polish+Polish+Polish @ 0,740179
5 Belorussian+Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 0,74373
6 Belorussian+Kosovar+Lithuanian+Polish @ 0,770765
7 Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,773626
8 Croatian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Romanian @ 0,774824
9 Greek_Thessaly+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+West_Scottish @ 0,776099
10 Belorussian+Central_Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 0,785813
11 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Polish+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,786497
12 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Ukrainian_Belgorod+West_Scot tish @ 0,788381
13 Bulgarian+Lithuanian+Polish+West_Scottish @ 0,789819
14 Macedonian+Polish+Polish+Polish @ 0,790773
15 Central_Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolen sk @ 0,795362
16 Belorussian+Macedonian+Polish+Polish @ 0,795761
17 Georgian_Laz+Motala12+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 0,796167
18 Croatian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Macedonian @ 0,799468
19 Macedonian+Polish+Polish+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,801274
20 Bosnian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Montenegrin @ 0,806176
21 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Russian_Voronez+West_Scottis h @ 0,809952
22 Georgian_Laz+Motala12+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 0,815313
23 Lithuanian+Montenegrin+Ukrainian_Belgorod+West_Sco ttish @ 0,817696
24 Montenegrin+Polish+Polish+Russian_Voronez @ 0,821803
25 Central_Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Swedish @ 0,824031
26 Georgian_Laz+Motala12+Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 0,825686
27 Georgian_Laz+Motala12+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 0,825808
28 Georgian_Laz+Motala12+Utah_German+West_Scottish @ 0,828517
29 Bulgarian+Croatian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 0,832082
30 Georgian_Laz+Motala12+Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 0,835861
31 Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Russian_Voronez @ 0,841472
32 Lithuanian+Polish+Romanian+West_Scottish @ 0,848118
33 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Orcadian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,85012
34 Hinxton4+Montenegrin+Polish+Russian_Kursk @ 0,850924
35 Belorussian+Belorussian+Macedonian+Polish @ 0,851879
36 Croatian+Croatian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,856602
37 Croatian+Polish+Ukrainian_Belgorod+West_Scottish @ 0,857812
38 Belorussian+Belorussian+Kosovar+Lithuanian @ 0,859101
39 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Polish+Russian_Voronez @ 0,862773
40 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Polish+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,863885
4761431 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 2,82974
2 SW_English @ 3,017437
3 Orcadian @ 3,024202
4 West_Scottish @ 3,082576
5 Utah_USA @ 3,190251
6 Norwegian @ 3,402683
7 Hinxton4 @ 3,500537
8 Utah_German @ 3,523583
9 Polish @ 3,59759
10 Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,704633
11 Swedish @ 3,72487
12 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,912875
13 Croatian @ 4,010933
14 Hungarian @ 4,040927
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,145473
16 Serbian_Bosnia @ 4,187554
17 Belorussian @ 4,23947
18 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,272905
19 Russian_Smolensk @ 4,277528
20 French @ 4,439714
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SE_English+SE_English @ 2,82974
2 Orcadian+SE_English @ 2,9219
3 SE_English+SW_English @ 2,927026
4 SE_English+West_Scottish @ 2,952972
5 Orcadian+SW_English @ 3,004461
6 Polish+SE_English @ 3,00782
7 SW_English+SW_English @ 3,017437
8 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,022683
9 Orcadian+Orcadian @ 3,024202
10 Norwegian+SE_English @ 3,031383
11 SW_English+West_Scottish @ 3,031599
12 Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 3,055517
13 Lithuanian+Montenegrin @ 3,070671
14 Lithuanian+Macedonian @ 3,071338
15 Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,072352
16 Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,077125
17 Polish+SW_English @ 3,078699
18 West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 3,082576
19 Orcadian+Utah_USA @ 3,083482
20 Polish+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,098405
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% SE_English +25% Polish +25% SE_English @ 2,853428
2 50% Lithuanian +25% Kosovar +25% SE_English @ 2,855749
3 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart @ 2,858117
4 50% SE_English +25% Orcadian +25% SE_English @ 2,874661
5 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% SW_English @ 2,87932
6 50% SE_English +25% Lithuanian +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,883079
7 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,888695
8 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% West_Scottish @ 2,890619
9 50% SE_English +25% Polish +25% SW_English @ 2,897144
10 50% Lithuanian +25% Kosovar +25% SW_English @ 2,89892
11 50% SE_English +25% Norwegian +25% SE_English @ 2,905289
12 50% SE_English +25% Lithuanian +25% Macedonian @ 2,906415
13 50% SE_English +25% Croatian +25% Lithuanian @ 2,909441
14 50% Lithuanian +25% North_Italian +25% SE_English @ 2,9153
15 50% SE_English +25% Orcadian +25% SW_English @ 2,920289
16 50% SE_English +25% Lithuanian +25% Montenegrin @ 2,921382
17 50% Orcadian +25% SE_English +25% SE_English @ 2,9219
18 50% SE_English +25% SW_English +25% SW_English @ 2,927026
19 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% Utah_USA @ 2,929945
20 50% SE_English +25% Orcadian +25% Polish @ 2,9314
1682160 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,82974
2 Polish+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,853428
3 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+SE_English @ 2,855749
4 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 2,858117
5 Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,874661
6 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,87932
7 Lithuanian+SE_English+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,883079
8 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,888695
9 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 2,890619
10 Polish+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,897144
11 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+SW_English @ 2,89892
12 Norwegian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,905289
13 Lithuanian+Macedonian+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,906415
14 Croatian+Lithuanian+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,909441
15 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English @ 2,9153
16 Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,920289
17 Lithuanian+Montenegrin+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,921382
18 Orcadian+Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,9219
19 Lithuanian+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia+SW_English @ 2,926717
20 SE_English+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,927026
21 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,929945
22 Orcadian+Polish+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,9314
23 SE_English+SE_English+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 2,935143
24 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Polish+SE_English @ 2,935406
25 Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 2,938118
26 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Polish+SE_English @ 2,938237
27 Polish+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,939267
28 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 2,939605
29 Lithuanian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,940267
30 Polish+SE_English+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,94109
31 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,941899
32 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+Swedish @ 2,942226
33 Polish+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,942946
34 Croatian+Polish+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,947343
35 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish @ 2,949788
36 Lithuanian+North_Italian+Polish+SE_English @ 2,950331
37 Norwegian+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,950519
38 Croatian+Lithuanian+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,951638
39 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Orcadian+SE_English @ 2,951891
40 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Utah_USA @ 2,952878
14270848 iterations.

Graham give a shout if you want the oracle results aswell.

[Grace O'Malley]

ANE 0.161975
South_Eurasian 0.007057
Near_Eastern 0.386478
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.443603
Oceanian 0.000857
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



Lower bound NE

ANE 0.160113
South_Eurasian 0.009684
Near_Eastern 0.349168
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.479065
Oceanian 0.001939
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005


Here are my mother's maps

http://i57.tinypic.com/24whnaq.png

http://i62.tinypic.com/2wr2olu.png

David said "Yes, she's definitely more southeast than I would've expected for Irish. Not really sure what that means though. Might be something to investigate further."

I'm really baffled about this.

[Graham]

She looks quite North To me like other Scots & irish Grace.


Hevo that would be fanatsic to run the oracle,

[Graham]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zps7e47ed4c.png

[Catkin]

Here's the updated graph with Graham and Grace's mum added. I culled a Norwegian and a few French to zoom in a little more, a few others are on borrowed time.


https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8616/16252600011_ae460806c6_o.jpg

[Catkin]

I hadn't posted my graphs yet, so these are mine:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7480/15634680073_f6edcd0475_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7476/15634679963_6bc9be4d95_o.jpg

[Hevo]

Hevo that would be fanatsic to run the oracle,



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 2,124766
2 West_Scottish @ 2,688425
3 SE_English @ 2,745774
4 SW_English @ 2,860279
5 Utah_German @ 2,898326
6 Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,27543
7 Norwegian @ 3,293038
8 Utah_USA @ 3,440167
9 Hinxton4 @ 3,555019
10 Swedish @ 4,500244
11 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,616324
12 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,760251
13 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 5,323889
14 Polish @ 5,43115
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,562604
16 Russian_Voronez @ 5,875478
17 Belorussian @ 6,0814
18 Russian_Smolensk @ 6,14867
19 Russian_Orel @ 6,81683
20 Russian_Kursk @ 7,194088
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 LBA_Hungary+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,251298
2 Belorussian+LBA_Hungary @ 1,318348
3 LBA_Hungary+Polish_Estonian @ 1,349856
4 Hinxton4+SW_English @ 1,416064
5 Hinxton4+SE_English @ 1,465434
6 LBA_Hungary+Polish @ 1,525632
7 Hinxton4+Utah_USA @ 1,569385
8 LBA_Hungary+Swedish @ 1,667246
9 Hinxton4+Utah_German @ 1,752933
10 Lithuanian+Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,768082
11 SW_English+Swedish @ 1,829469
12 SE_English+Swedish @ 1,895604
13 Lithuanian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 1,89603
14 SW_English+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,897843
15 Norwegian+SW_English @ 1,907022
16 Cyprian+Motala12 @ 1,911764
17 SE_English+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,925979
18 Lithuanian+Spanish_Cataluna @ 1,931952
19 Swedish+Utah_USA @ 1,935526
20 Norwegian+SE_English @ 1,937641
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Montenegrin +25% Montenegrin +25% Motala12 @ 0,813427
2 50% Croatian +25% Greek +25% Motala12 @ 0,82052
3 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Lithuanian +25% Norwegian @ 0,87896
4 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Lithuanian +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,890843
5 50% Kosovar +25% Motala12 +25% West_Scottish @ 0,924172
6 50% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Orcadian @ 0,931912
7 50% SW_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Lithuanian @ 0,939508
8 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Lithuanian +25% West_Scottish @ 0,948669
9 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Lithuanian @ 0,959564
10 50% Serbian +25% Macedonian +25% Motala12 @ 0,968852
11 50% Kosovar +25% Motala12 +25% Norwegian @ 0,971285
12 50% Kosovar +25% Motala12 +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,974606
13 50% Montenegrin +25% Macedonian +25% Motala12 @ 0,975576
14 50% Lithuanian +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 0,978215
15 50% Lithuanian +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 0,980163
16 50% Montenegrin +25% Motala12 +25% Serbian @ 0,98244
17 50% Hungarian +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Motala12 @ 0,984281
18 50% Kosovar +25% Motala12 +25% Orcadian @ 0,984505
19 50% Orcadian +25% Basque_French +25% Lithuanian @ 0,988762
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary +25% West_Scottish @ 0,993595
1014797 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek+Montenegrin+Motala12+West_Scottish @ 0,723986
2 Greek+Lithuanian+Motala12+Tuscan @ 0,733296
3 Greek+Montenegrin+Motala12+Orcadian @ 0,754875
4 Italian_Abruzzo+Motala12+Serbian+West_Scottish @ 0,758705
5 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Macedonian+Motala12 @ 0,767998
6 Central_Greek+Lithuanian+Motala12+Tuscan @ 0,7833
7 Italian_Abruzzo+Motala12+Orcadian+Serbian @ 0,78424
8 Italian_Abruzzo+Montenegrin+Motala12+Norwegian @ 0,786657
9 Greek+Motala12+Serbian+Utah_USA @ 0,790801
10 Italian_Abruzzo+Montenegrin+Motala12+Utah_Scandina vian @ 0,798364
11 Greek+Motala12+SE_English+Serbian @ 0,80426
12 Montenegrin+Montenegrin+Montenegrin+Motala12 @ 0,813427
13 Italian_Abruzzo+Macedonian+Motala12+Swedish @ 0,81367
14 Greek+Motala12+Serbian+SW_English @ 0,814186
15 Central_Greek+Motala12+SE_English+Serbian @ 0,815297
16 Greek+Motala12+Serbian+Utah_German @ 0,815316
17 Greek+Macedonian+Motala12+Norwegian @ 0,816479
18 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Motala12+Romanian @ 0,818791
19 Croatian+Croatian+Greek+Motala12 @ 0,82052
20 Greek+Macedonian+Motala12+Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,820806
21 Central_Greek+Motala12+Serbian+SW_English @ 0,822391
22 Central_Greek+Montenegrin+Motala12+Orcadian @ 0,827131
23 Cyprian+Hinxton4+Motala12+Orcadian @ 0,829115
24 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Kosovar+Motala12 @ 0,834235
25 Italian_Abruzzo+Kosovar+Lithuanian+Motala12 @ 0,836405
26 Greek+Montenegrin+Motala12+Utah_German @ 0,837273
27 Bulgarian+Greek+Hinxton4+Motala12 @ 0,83852
28 Central_Greek+Montenegrin+Motala12+West_Scottish @ 0,847521
29 Central_Greek+Hinxton4+Macedonian+Motala12 @ 0,848465
30 Macedonian+Montenegrin+Motala12+Serbian @ 0,851362
31 Cyprian+Hinxton4+Motala12+SE_English @ 0,851397
32 Central_Greek+Motala12+Serbian+Utah_USA @ 0,851642
33 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Montenegrin+Motala12 @ 0,85347
34 Cyprian+French+Lithuanian+Motala12 @ 0,85743
35 Greek+Montenegrin+Motala12+SE_English @ 0,862642
36 Greek+Hinxton4+Macedonian+Motala12 @ 0,864754
37 Cyprian+Hinxton4+Motala12+West_Scottish @ 0,866887
38 Central_Greek+Motala12+Serbian+Utah_German @ 0,871135
39 Greek_Thessaly+Macedonian+Motala12+Utah_USA @ 0,872605
40 Greek_Thessaly+Motala12+Romanian+SW_English @ 0,875551
3961846 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 3,080935
2 SW_English @ 3,234966
3 Utah_USA @ 3,56244
4 Orcadian @ 3,565653
5 LBA_Hungary @ 3,700279
6 Hinxton4 @ 3,702024
7 Norwegian @ 3,743389
8 West_Scottish @ 3,79977
9 Utah_German @ 3,82424
10 Swedish @ 3,94573
11 Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,949712
12 Polish @ 4,199414
13 French @ 4,495445
14 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,496727
15 Russian_Smolensk @ 4,597452
16 Croatian @ 4,60413
17 Belorussian @ 4,644509
18 Hungarian @ 4,734024
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,75731
20 Serbian_Bosnia @ 4,907471
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,046193
2 SE_English+SE_English @ 3,080935
3 SE_English+SW_English @ 3,160511
4 LBA_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,193703
5 LBA_Hungary+Lithuanian @ 3,206842
6 Basque_French+Lithuanian @ 3,220648
7 SW_English+SW_English @ 3,234966
8 LBA_Hungary+Swedish @ 3,251813
9 LBA_Hungary+Norwegian @ 3,259012
10 LBA_Hungary+SW_English @ 3,271833
11 LBA_Hungary+Polish @ 3,276599
12 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian @ 3,284788
13 Orcadian+SE_English @ 3,318431
14 Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,327186
15 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,335785
16 LBA_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 3,336852
17 Norwegian+SE_English @ 3,356575
18 Lithuanian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,360861
19 Orcadian+SW_English @ 3,383794
20 LBA_Hungary+Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,384085
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% SE_English +25% Motala12 +25% Stuttgart @ 2,70677
2 50% North_Italian +25% Motala12 +25% SE_English @ 2,723878
3 50% North_Italian +25% Motala12 +25% SW_English @ 2,771124
4 50% SE_English +25% Motala12 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,790919
5 50% SW_English +25% Motala12 +25% Stuttgart @ 2,808327
6 50% North_Italian +25% Motala12 +25% Utah_USA @ 2,844022
7 50% North_Italian +25% Motala12 +25% Orcadian @ 2,84973
8 50% North_Italian +25% Motala12 +25% West_Scottish @ 2,861667
9 50% Kosovar +25% Motala12 +25% SE_English @ 2,868816
10 50% North_Italian +25% Croatian +25% Motala12 @ 2,871765
11 50% North_Italian +25% Hinxton4 +25% Motala12 @ 2,871941
12 50% Motala12 +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Stuttgart @ 2,879482
13 50% North_Italian +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Motala12 @ 2,880394
14 50% SW_English +25% Motala12 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,886197
15 50% Kosovar +25% Motala12 +25% SW_English @ 2,914349
16 50% North_Italian +25% French +25% Motala12 @ 2,925163
17 50% North_Italian +25% Motala12 +25% Norwegian @ 2,92736
18 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Greek +25% Motala12 @ 2,932753
19 50% Utah_USA +25% Motala12 +25% Stuttgart @ 2,934478
20 50% Croatian +25% Motala12 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,943399
1713062 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Motala12+SE_English+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,70677
2 Motala12+North_Italian+North_Italian+SE_English @ 2,723878
3 Motala12+SE_English+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,758663
4 Kosovar+Motala12+North_Italian+SE_English @ 2,767036
5 Motala12+North_Italian+North_Italian+SW_English @ 2,771124
6 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,781383
7 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 2,782125
8 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 2,78428
9 Croatian+Motala12+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,786652
10 Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,790919
11 Motala12+Stuttgart+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,808327
12 Croatian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 2,809136
13 Kosovar+Motala12+North_Italian+SW_English @ 2,814106
14 Lithuanian+Motala12+North_Italian+Stuttgart @ 2,818235
15 Motala12+SE_English+Stuttgart+Utah_USA @ 2,825322
16 Lithuanian+Montenegrin+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 2,830428
17 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,831378
18 Motala12+Orcadian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,832622
19 Motala12+SE_English+Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 2,838912
20 Croatian+Motala12+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,839465
21 Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,839551
22 Motala12+North_Italian+North_Italian+Utah_USA @ 2,844022
23 Lithuanian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italia n @ 2,845529
24 Motala12+North_Italian+North_Italian+Orcadian @ 2,84973
25 Macedonian+Motala12+North_Italian+SE_English @ 2,851216
26 Motala12+North_Italian+SE_English+Tuscan @ 2,85869
27 Croatian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+SW_English @ 2,860309
28 Motala12+North_Italian+North_Italian+West_Scottish @ 2,861667
29 Kosovar+Kosovar+Motala12+SE_English @ 2,868816
30 Croatian+Motala12+North_Italian+North_Italian @ 2,871765
31 Hinxton4+Motala12+North_Italian+North_Italian @ 2,871941
32 Motala12+Stuttgart+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 2,872523
33 LBA_Hungary+Macedonian+Motala12+North_Italian @ 2,876401
34 Greek+Motala12+North_Italian+SE_English @ 2,876679
35 Motala12+Orcadian+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,878365
36 Georgian_Laz+Motala12+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 2,879482
37 Croatian+Motala12+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 2,879888
38 LBA_Hungary+Motala12+North_Italian+North_Italian @ 2,880394
39 Motala12+Stuttgart+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 2,883345
40 Kosovar+LBA_Hungary+Motala12+North_Italian @ 2,88363
15094945 iterations.

[Catkin]

Graham give a shout if you want the oracle results aswell.

Could you possibly run mine as well please Hevo? :)

ANE 0.150887
South_Eurasian 0.001265
Near_Eastern 0.390356
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.455225
Oceanian 0.001649
Pygmy 0.000597
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

[Hevo]

Could you possibly run mine as well please Hevo? :)

ANE 0.150887
South_Eurasian 0.001265
Near_Eastern 0.390356
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.455225
Oceanian 0.001649
Pygmy 0.000597
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Sure.:)


Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 1,300616
2 West_Scottish @ 1,31027
3 Utah_German @ 1,580036
4 SE_English @ 1,725378
5 SW_English @ 1,891757
6 Utah_USA @ 2,081994
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2,948227
8 Norwegian @ 3,722145
9 Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,75405
10 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 3,848913
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,633946
12 Hinxton4 @ 4,709307
13 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 4,890897
14 Swedish @ 5,523445
15 Russian_Voronez @ 5,663525
16 Polish @ 5,726113
17 Hungarian @ 5,981965
18 Moldavian @ 6,148661
19 Belorussian @ 6,484258
20 Russian_Orel @ 6,521039
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SE_English+West_Scottish @ 1,00226
2 SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,042686
3 Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 1,104813
4 Utah_German+West_Scottish @ 1,113778
5 Orcadian+SE_English @ 1,193207
6 Orcadian+Utah_German @ 1,211707
7 Orcadian+SW_English @ 1,241495
8 Orcadian+Utah_USA @ 1,246318
9 Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 1,25644
10 Hinxton4+Hungarian @ 1,278164
11 Orcadian+Orcadian @ 1,300616
12 West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,31027
13 Hungarian+Swedish @ 1,511159
14 Norwegian+Utah_USA @ 1,526714
15 Utah_Scandinavian+Utah_USA @ 1,574663
16 Utah_German+Utah_German @ 1,580036
17 SE_English+Utah_German @ 1,615963
18 SE_English+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,661817
19 SW_English+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,67636
20 Norwegian+SW_English @ 1,68542
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Serbian @ 0,992283
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% SE_English @ 0,993565
3 50% SE_English +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish @ 1,00226
4 50% West_Scottish +25% SW_English +25% West_Scottish @ 1,00591
5 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% Utah_USA @ 1,007151
6 50% West_Scottish +25% Utah_USA +25% West_Scottish @ 1,008675
7 50% West_Scottish +25% SE_English +25% West_Scottish @ 1,012463
8 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% SW_English @ 1,01292
9 50% West_Scottish +25% Orcadian +25% Utah_USA @ 1,017186
10 50% Hinxton4 +25% Serbian_Bosnia +25% West_Scottish @ 1,017905
11 50% Hinxton4 +25% Montenegrin +25% Swedish @ 1,018373
12 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% West_Scottish @ 1,0202
13 50% West_Scottish +25% SE_English +25% SW_English @ 1,021329
14 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% Utah_German @ 1,026404
15 50% West_Scottish +25% Orcadian +25% SW_English @ 1,029297
16 50% West_Scottish +25% Orcadian +25% SE_English @ 1,031481
17 50% Hinxton4 +25% Montenegrin +25% Polish @ 1,037403
18 50% West_Scottish +25% SE_English +25% Utah_USA @ 1,039002
19 50% SW_English +25% West_Scottish +25% West_Scottish @ 1,042686
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Montenegrin @ 1,043679
1046721 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Serbian @ 0,992283
2 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 0,993565
3 SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,00226
4 SW_English+West_Scottish+West_Scottish+West_Scotti sh @ 1,00591
5 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Utah_USA @ 1,007151
6 Utah_USA+West_Scottish+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,008675
7 SE_English+West_Scottish+West_Scottish+West_Scotti sh @ 1,012463
8 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SW_English @ 1,01292
9 Orcadian+Utah_USA+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,017186
10 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Serbian_Bosnia+West_Scottish @ 1,017905
11 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Montenegrin+SW_English @ 1,01793
12 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Montenegrin+Swedish @ 1,018373
13 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 1,0202
14 SE_English+SW_English+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,021329
15 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Montenegrin+SE_English @ 1,022491
16 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Utah_German @ 1,026404
17 Orcadian+SW_English+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,029297
18 Orcadian+SE_English+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,031481
19 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Montenegrin+Polish @ 1,037403
20 SE_English+Utah_USA+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,039002
21 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Montenegrin+Utah_USA @ 1,042515
22 SW_English+SW_English+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,042686
23 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Montenegrin @ 1,043679
24 SE_English+Utah_German+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,04459
25 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 1,049784
26 Orcadian+Orcadian+Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 1,055789
27 Hinxton4+Hungarian+Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 1,057652
28 SW_English+Utah_German+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,059454
29 Hinxton4+Hungarian+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 1,061726
30 SW_English+Utah_USA+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,062696
31 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Serbian+Swedish @ 1,067073
32 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,070749
33 Hinxton4+Hungarian+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 1,071076
34 Bosnian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 1,077766
35 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+North_Italian+Polish @ 1,07852
36 Orcadian+Orcadian+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 1,079633
37 Orcadian+Orcadian+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,081587
38 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Norwegian+Serbian @ 1,082867
39 Hinxton4+Hungarian+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,082946
40 Utah_German+Utah_USA+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,086621
4474174 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 3,429222
2 SW_English @ 3,542098
3 Hinxton4 @ 3,570343
4 Orcadian @ 3,628697
5 West_Scottish @ 3,67244
6 Utah_USA @ 3,703125
7 Utah_German @ 3,982049
8 Norwegian @ 3,990572
9 Swedish @ 4,203727
10 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,206925
11 Polish @ 4,209822
12 LBA_Hungary @ 4,370906
13 Croatian @ 4,447796
14 Hungarian @ 4,46792
15 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,488953
16 French @ 4,489607
17 Serbian_Bosnia @ 4,605955
18 Belorussian @ 4,701722
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,703836
20 Russian_Smolensk @ 4,718484
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SE_English+SE_English @ 3,429222
2 SE_English+SW_English @ 3,487255
3 Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,496458
4 Orcadian+SE_English @ 3,526532
5 Hinxton4+SW_English @ 3,538517
6 SW_English+SW_English @ 3,542098
7 SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,550705
8 Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,570343
9 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,573296
10 Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,573917
11 Orcadian+SW_English @ 3,575518
12 French+Hinxton4 @ 3,596095
13 Hinxton4+Utah_USA @ 3,596548
14 SW_English+West_Scottish @ 3,596963
15 Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 3,620129
16 Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 3,621106
17 SW_English+Utah_USA @ 3,624473
18 Orcadian+Orcadian @ 3,628697
19 Orcadian+Utah_USA @ 3,648916
20 Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 3,653261
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian @ 3,392017
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,440651
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% Basque_French +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,446991
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,453793
5 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% SW_English @ 3,458662
6 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart @ 3,461555
7 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English @ 3,462803
8 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Montenegrin @ 3,463065
9 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,471987
10 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary @ 3,473558
11 50% SE_English +25% Orcadian +25% SE_English @ 3,477379
12 50% SE_English +25% SW_English +25% SW_English @ 3,487255
13 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% SW_English @ 3,487958
14 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% West_Scottish @ 3,490046
15 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Macedonian @ 3,490865
16 50% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English +25% SE_English @ 3,496458
17 50% Lithuanian +25% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,499059
18 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% Utah_USA @ 3,503279
19 50% SE_English +25% Orcadian +25% SW_English @ 3,504412
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 3,504436
1710524 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian @ 3,392017
2 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,429222
3 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,440651
4 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,446991
5 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,453793
6 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,458662
7 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 3,461555
8 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,462803
9 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Montenegrin @ 3,463065
10 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,471987
11 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,473558
12 Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,477379
13 SE_English+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,487255
14 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,487958
15 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,490046
16 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Macedonian @ 3,490865
17 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,496458
18 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,499059
19 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,503279
20 Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,504412
21 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,504436
22 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,505553
23 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 3,506206
24 Hinxton4+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,51239
25 SE_English+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,515051
26 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish @ 3,516114
27 SE_English+SE_English+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 3,51634
28 Hinxton4+Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,516463
29 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,517812
30 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,522371
31 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,52451
32 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 3,526055
33 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+SW_English @ 3,526309
34 Orcadian+Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,526532
35 Polish+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,527075
36 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 3,527885
37 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SW_English @ 3,52803
38 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+West_Scottish @ 3,529682
39 Norwegian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,530683
40 Orcadian+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,530697
15221147 iterations.

[Oneeye]

ANE 0.146241
South_Eurasian 0.000831
Near_Eastern 0.408276
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.436614
Oceanian 0.008008
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005




Lower bound NE

ANE 0.144904
South_Eurasian 0.003256
Near_Eastern 0.372612
East_Eurasian 0.000159
WHG 0.470029
Oceanian 0.00902
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005


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[Oneeye]

Hevo, would you run my data too? :D

[Hevo]

Hevo, would you run my data too? :D

Sure, North Sea Facade haters got nothing on us bro.:cheers:


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Utah_USA @ 1,730138
2 SW_English @ 2,220826
3 Utah_German @ 2,265162
4 SE_English @ 2,272096
5 Hungarian @ 3,437734
6 Orcadian @ 3,572999
7 West_Scottish @ 3,577828
8 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,816616
9 Moldavian @ 4,324364
10 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 5,592719
11 Croatian @ 5,634032
12 French @ 6,11289
13 LBA_Hungary @ 6,117879
14 Utah_Scandinavian @ 6,210298
15 Norwegian @ 6,210595
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6,35885
17 Serbian_Bosnia @ 6,790387
18 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 6,792127
19 Hinxton4 @ 7,357259
20 Russian_Voronez @ 7,815244
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Hungarian+Orcadian @ 1,194954
2 Croatian+Norwegian @ 1,261843
3 Bosnian+Hinxton4 @ 1,268224
4 Croatian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,272586
5 Hinxton4+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,274925
6 Hungarian+West_Scottish @ 1,281317
7 Croatian+Hinxton4 @ 1,308351
8 Hungarian+SE_English @ 1,316398
9 French+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,340696
10 Hungarian+Utah_German @ 1,357687
11 Hungarian+SW_English @ 1,376029
12 Norwegian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,46261
13 Serbian_Bosnia+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,476552
14 French+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,502598
15 Croatian+Orcadian @ 1,509644
16 Croatian+West_Scottish @ 1,512511
17 French+Russian_Voronez @ 1,525044
18 Hungarian+Utah_USA @ 1,535718
19 French+Norwegian @ 1,555621
20 French+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,579291
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek +25% Lithuanian @ 0,909573
2 50% Croatian +25% Hinxton4 +25% West_Scottish @ 0,998515
3 50% Croatian +25% Hinxton4 +25% Orcadian @ 1,012618
4 50% West_Scottish +25% Hinxton4 +25% Montenegrin @ 1,019261
5 50% Lithuanian +25% French +25% Tuscan @ 1,02231
6 50% Hinxton4 +25% Romanian +25% Utah_USA @ 1,024367
7 50% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar +25% Polish @ 1,024441
8 50% Hinxton4 +25% Romanian +25% SE_English @ 1,029556
9 50% Hinxton4 +25% Central_Greek +25% Lithuanian @ 1,02999
10 50% Hinxton4 +25% Romanian +25% SW_English @ 1,034117
11 50% West_Scottish +25% Hinxton4 +25% Macedonian @ 1,041594
12 50% Hinxton4 +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Lithuanian @ 1,042971
13 50% Lithuanian +25% Montenegrin +25% North_Italian @ 1,052721
14 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek +25% LBA_Hungary @ 1,053023
15 50% Hinxton4 +25% Bulgarian +25% SE_English @ 1,053239
16 50% Lithuanian +25% North_Italian +25% Serbian @ 1,056375
17 50% Orcadian +25% Serbian +25% West_Scottish @ 1,056573
18 50% West_Scottish +25% Orcadian +25% Serbian @ 1,056947
19 50% SE_English +25% Polish +25% Serbian @ 1,057009
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hungarian +25% Serbian @ 1,058792
1008819 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian @ 0,909573
2 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Tuscan+West_Scottish @ 0,978253
3 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+SE_English @ 0,978626
4 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+SW_English @ 0,985162
5 Croatian+Croatian+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 0,998515
6 French+Lithuanian+Montenegrin+West_Scottish @ 1,006364
7 Lithuanian+Norwegian+Tuscan+West_Scottish @ 1,010817
8 Hinxton4+Serbian+Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 1,011199
9 Croatian+Croatian+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 1,012618
10 Hinxton4+Montenegrin+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 1,015131
11 Hinxton4+Montenegrin+Utah_German+West_Scottish @ 1,018387
12 Lithuanian+Tuscan+Utah_Scandinavian+West_Scottish @ 1,019128
13 Hinxton4+Montenegrin+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,019261
14 Hinxton4+Norwegian+Romanian+SE_English @ 1,019854
15 Greek+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Norwegian @ 1,020365
16 French+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Tuscan @ 1,02231
17 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Romanian+Utah_USA @ 1,024367
18 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+Polish @ 1,024441
19 Lithuanian+Polish+SE_English+Tuscan @ 1,026094
20 Greek+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,026847
21 Hinxton4+Montenegrin+Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 1,02717
22 Hinxton4+Romanian+SE_English+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,027399
23 Hinxton4+Norwegian+Romanian+SW_English @ 1,027448
24 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Romanian+SE_English @ 1,029556
25 Central_Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian @ 1,02999
26 Lithuanian+Polish+SW_English+Tuscan @ 1,031788
27 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Tuscan @ 1,032552
28 Hinxton4+Macedonian+Norwegian+SE_English @ 1,032998
29 Lithuanian+Norwegian+Orcadian+Tuscan @ 1,033533
30 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Romanian+SW_English @ 1,034117
31 Hinxton4+Montenegrin+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,035792
32 Hinxton4+Romanian+SW_English+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,036161
33 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Utah_USA @ 1,036253
34 Hinxton4+SE_English+Serbian+West_Scottish @ 1,036274
35 Norwegian+SE_English+Serbian+West_Scottish @ 1,036619
36 Hinxton4+Serbian+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,03856
37 Hinxton4+Macedonian+SE_English+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,041408
38 Hinxton4+Macedonian+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,041594
39 Norwegian+Serbian+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,041852
40 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian @ 1,042971
3884233 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 2,979014
2 SW_English @ 3,127717
3 Utah_USA @ 3,366899
4 Orcadian @ 3,576648
5 LBA_Hungary @ 3,699346
6 Utah_German @ 3,726356
7 West_Scottish @ 3,742348
8 Croatian @ 3,778388
9 French @ 3,882089
10 Norwegian @ 4,023885
11 Serbian_Bosnia @ 4,062397
12 Hinxton4 @ 4,075844
13 Hungarian @ 4,123802
14 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,224879
15 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,357523
16 Swedish @ 4,407997
17 Polish @ 4,518544
18 Bosnian @ 4,591113
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,780414
20 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,964105
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SE_English+SE_English @ 2,979014
2 SE_English+SW_English @ 3,055939
3 LBA_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,11466
4 SW_English+SW_English @ 3,127717
5 Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 3,158924
6 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,184034
7 LBA_Hungary+SW_English @ 3,191419
8 Croatian+SE_English @ 3,209094
9 SW_English+Utah_USA @ 3,249876
10 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian @ 3,256324
11 Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,262108
12 French+SE_English @ 3,26448
13 LBA_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 3,267967
14 Orcadian+SE_English @ 3,280089
15 Croatian+SW_English @ 3,287227
16 LBA_Hungary+Utah_USA @ 3,297803
17 French+SW_English @ 3,339694
18 Orcadian+SW_English @ 3,340353
19 SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,342778
20 SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,360088
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 2,988882
2 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 3,005077
3 50% Lithuanian +25% SE_English +25% Stuttgart @ 3,006817
4 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% SW_English @ 3,01817
5 50% SE_English +25% Lithuanian +25% North_Italian @ 3,01984
6 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SW_English @ 3,028581
7 50% SE_English +25% Croatian +25% SE_English @ 3,041947
8 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% SW_English @ 3,050333
9 50% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart +25% SW_English @ 3,052991
10 50% SE_English +25% SW_English +25% SW_English @ 3,055939
11 50% SW_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 3,066977
12 50% SE_English +25% French +25% SE_English @ 3,070517
13 50% SE_English +25% Croatian +25% SW_English @ 3,08233
14 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% Utah_USA @ 3,084827
15 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Utah_USA @ 3,090743
16 50% SW_English +25% SE_English +25% SW_English @ 3,092424
17 50% SW_English +25% Lithuanian +25% North_Italian @ 3,099637
18 50% SE_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Orcadian @ 3,10163
19 50% Lithuanian +25% Orcadian +25% Stuttgart @ 3,102362
20 50% SW_English +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SW_English @ 3,104164
1714228 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,979014
2 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,988882
3 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,005077
4 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 3,006817
5 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,01817
6 Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,01984
7 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,028581
8 Croatian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,041947
9 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+SW_English @ 3,050333
10 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 3,052991
11 SE_English+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,055939
12 Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,060428
13 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,066977
14 French+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,070517
15 Croatian+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,08233
16 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,084827
17 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,090743
18 SE_English+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,092424
19 Lithuanian+North_Italian+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,099637
20 LBA_Hungary+Lithuanian+North_Italian+SE_English @ 3,099762
21 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,10163
22 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 3,102362
23 LBA_Hungary+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,104164
24 Croatian+LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,104241
25 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,104689
26 Greek+Kosovar+Motala12+SE_English @ 3,106958
27 Kosovar+Kosovar+Macedonian+Motala12 @ 3,107321
28 French+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,109911
29 Kosovar+Lithuanian+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,110849
30 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Orcadian @ 3,111103
31 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Norwegian+Stuttgart @ 3,111687
32 LBA_Hungary+LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,11466
33 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Utah_USA @ 3,117854
34 Greek+Greek+Motala12+SE_English @ 3,119384
35 Kosovar+Macedonian+Macedonian+Motala12 @ 3,120794
36 SE_English+SE_English+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 3,120865
37 Croatian+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,12133
38 Kosovar+Kosovar+Montenegrin+Motala12 @ 3,121642
39 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+Utah_USA @ 3,12417
40 LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,125298
15317469 iterations.

[Jackson]

Quite close to me actually Oneeye, just more eastern/north-eastern.

[Graham]

..


http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zpsd94998e3.png

[Jackson]

My Grandmother has quite low ANE interestingly but higher WHG than the rest of us, my mother is basically even on the Near East/WHG but has more ANE so is slightly south-east of my position. Interesting how my grandmother has 1.5% South Eurasian too.

Paternal Grandfather:
ANE 0.145889
South_Eurasian 0.004865
Near_Eastern 0.390081
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.459125
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Paternal Grandmother:
ANE 0.127395
South_Eurasian 0.015
Near_Eastern 0.392696
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.46487
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Mother:
ANE 0.146131
South_Eurasian 0.003298
Near_Eastern 0.421304
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.420671
Oceanian 0.003708
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.004868

[Graham]

Jackson your mums results look sort of North French.

[Jackson]

Jackson your mums results look sort of North French.

I agree. I've just been thinking recently as i still haven't found a paper connection to outside of the Isles but it must be reasonably recent, and there was a rumour of French ancestry. On 23&me the only thing that really sticks out is that she has higher French & German, so perhaps it is southern French or something like that?

[Graham]

Would like to see Netherlands, Belgium & Germans( I hate all that utah stuff) to really know. I'll run the map.

[Graham]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zps47c707ab.png

Funnily enough both your mums are together on the dendogram. Even with the dozens of others. Good sign of a test.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/2_zps3b5be828.png

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/1_zpsf1148598.png

[Jackson]

Thanks Graham, pretty interesting. I didin't expect my Grandmother to be so far 'up' but i guess the lower ANE moves her up and the WHG left. My Grandfather looks pretty normal.

[Jackson]

Do you have a full dendrogram? That would be interesting.

----

If only my mother's parents were alive, would be able to find out potentially a lot more. I'll just have to do a lot of paper investigation. :P

[Graham]

Do you have a full dendrogram? That would be interesting.
On Wards method, a bit tidier to show.
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/1_zpsaa6745d9.pnghttp://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/2_zpsefc01a73.png
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/3_zps94fd06ee.png

[Hevo]

Would like to see Netherlands, Belgium & Germans( I hate all that utah stuff) to really know. I'll run the map.

Davidski mentioned he will do the Dutch samples next week. To bad there are no Flemish samples tough. Would be interesting where they plot.

Jackson, do you want the oracle results for your parents&Grandparents?

[Jackson]

Davidski mentioned he will do the Dutch samples next week. To bad there are no Flemish samples tough. Would be interesting where they plot.

Jackson, do you want the oracle results for your parents&Grandparents?

Yeah that'd be great, thanks.

[Hevo]

Paternal Grandfather:
ANE 0.145889
South_Eurasian 0.004865
Near_Eastern 0.390081
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.459125
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 1,240569
2 SE_English @ 1,528253
3 West_Scottish @ 1,558887
4 Utah_German @ 1,582824
5 SW_English @ 1,689759
6 Utah_USA @ 2,061536
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,418893
8 Norwegian @ 3,697422
9 Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,723539
10 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,179194
11 Hinxton4 @ 4,506237
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,006916
13 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 5,118709
14 Swedish @ 5,400464
15 Polish @ 5,799286
16 Russian_Voronez @ 5,87943
17 Hungarian @ 6,261543
18 Belorussian @ 6,549692
19 Moldavian @ 6,632702
20 Russian_Smolensk @ 6,664871
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian+SE_English @ 1,013293
2 SE_English+West_Scottish @ 1,02005
3 SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,040253
4 Orcadian+SW_English @ 1,050373
5 Orcadian+Utah_German @ 1,181671
6 Orcadian+Utah_USA @ 1,19776
7 Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 1,238907
8 Orcadian+Orcadian @ 1,240569
9 Utah_German+West_Scottish @ 1,265532
10 Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 1,363454
11 Norwegian+Utah_USA @ 1,482146
12 LBA_Hungary+Russian_Orel @ 1,513748
13 SE_English+Utah_German @ 1,514946
14 Utah_Scandinavian+Utah_USA @ 1,524174
15 SE_English+SE_English @ 1,528253
16 Norwegian+SW_English @ 1,545055
17 Hinxton4+Hungarian @ 1,552262
18 West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,558887
19 LBA_Hungary+Russian_Kursk @ 1,560421
20 LBA_Hungary+Russian_Voronez @ 1,580585
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian +25% North_Italian @ 0,857153
2 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% Utah_USA @ 0,909249
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% West_Scottish @ 0,909822
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% SE_English @ 0,911143
5 50% Utah_USA +25% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English @ 0,920468
6 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% SW_English @ 0,921138
7 50% SW_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% Utah_USA @ 0,933765
8 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English @ 0,933968
9 50% Utah_USA +25% Hinxton4 +25% SW_English @ 0,937186
10 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% SW_English @ 0,938578
11 50% SW_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English @ 0,946075
12 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% Orcadian @ 0,951528
13 50% SW_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% SW_English @ 0,956388
14 50% Utah_USA +25% Hinxton4 +25% Utah_USA @ 0,966373
15 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% SE_English @ 0,981014
16 50% French +25% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian @ 0,981551
17 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% Utah_German @ 0,987795
18 50% Utah_USA +25% Hinxton4 +25% Utah_German @ 0,989878
19 50% SW_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% Utah_German @ 0,991904
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% Utah_German @ 0,991954
1036238 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 0,857153
2 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 0,909249
3 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 0,909822
4 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 0,911143
5 Hinxton4+SE_English+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 0,920097
6 Hinxton4+SE_English+Utah_USA+Utah_USA @ 0,920468
7 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SW_English @ 0,921138
8 Hinxton4+SW_English+SW_English+Utah_USA @ 0,933765
9 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 0,933968
10 Hinxton4+SW_English+Utah_USA+Utah_USA @ 0,937186
11 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 0,938578
12 Hinxton4+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 0,946075
13 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 0,951528
14 French+Hinxton4+Polish+SE_English @ 0,954856
15 Hinxton4+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 0,956388
16 French+Hinxton4+Polish+SW_English @ 0,960905
17 Hinxton4+Utah_USA+Utah_USA+Utah_USA @ 0,966373
18 French+Hinxton4+Norwegian+West_Scottish @ 0,966882
19 Hinxton4+SE_English+Utah_German+Utah_USA @ 0,971985
20 French+Hinxton4+Norwegian+Orcadian @ 0,974548
21 Hinxton4+SW_English+Utah_German+Utah_USA @ 0,97841
22 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 0,981014
23 French+French+Hinxton4+Lithuanian @ 0,981551
24 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_German @ 0,987795
25 Hinxton4+SE_English+SW_English+Utah_German @ 0,988463
26 Hinxton4+Utah_German+Utah_USA+Utah_USA @ 0,989878
27 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+North_Italian+Swedish @ 0,990863
28 Hinxton4+SW_English+SW_English+Utah_German @ 0,991904
29 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Utah_German @ 0,991954
30 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Utah_USA @ 0,998256
31 Hinxton4+Orcadian+Utah_USA+Utah_USA @ 0,999793
32 French+Hinxton4+Utah_Scandinavian+West_Scottish @ 1,000969
33 Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 1,00112
34 French+Hinxton4+Polish+Utah_USA @ 1,001197
35 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Serbian @ 1,005635
36 Hinxton4+Utah_USA+Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 1,008475
37 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SW_English @ 1,010323
38 French+Hinxton4+Orcadian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,010606
39 Orcadian+Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English @ 1,013293
40 Orcadian+SE_English+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,014412
4460098 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 3,416219
2 SW_English @ 3,526392
3 Hinxton4 @ 3,559097
4 Orcadian @ 3,632745
5 West_Scottish @ 3,69205
6 Utah_USA @ 3,697555
7 Utah_German @ 3,980095
8 Norwegian @ 4,000811
9 Swedish @ 4,201422
10 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,214619
11 Polish @ 4,237615
12 LBA_Hungary @ 4,240156
13 French @ 4,453497
14 Croatian @ 4,476936
15 Hungarian @ 4,498713
16 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,527954
17 Serbian_Bosnia @ 4,625338
18 Belorussian @ 4,725245
19 Russian_Smolensk @ 4,740566
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,751798
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SE_English+SE_English @ 3,416219
2 SE_English+SW_English @ 3,472884
3 Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,484828
4 Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,50251
5 Orcadian+SE_English @ 3,522655
6 Hinxton4+SW_English @ 3,525613
7 SW_English+SW_English @ 3,526392
8 SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,555461
9 Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,559097
10 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,564206
11 Orcadian+SW_English @ 3,570222
12 French+Hinxton4 @ 3,572961
13 Hinxton4+Utah_USA @ 3,588586
14 SW_English+West_Scottish @ 3,600225
15 SW_English+Utah_USA @ 3,613999
16 Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 3,617559
17 Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 3,62458
18 Orcadian+Orcadian @ 3,632745
19 Orcadian+Utah_USA @ 3,648357
20 Norwegian+SE_English @ 3,660825
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian @ 3,370587
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Basque_French +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,378425
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,38043
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary @ 3,434169
5 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart @ 3,435913
6 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,437166
7 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,440364
8 50% SE_English +25% SE_English +25% SW_English @ 3,444971
9 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English @ 3,450621
10 50% Lithuanian +25% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,454139
11 50% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 3,464153
12 50% Hinxton4 +25% Basque_French +25% SE_English @ 3,465207
13 50% Hinxton4 +25% Basque_French +25% West_Scottish @ 3,46785
14 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Montenegrin @ 3,468862
15 50% SE_English +25% Orcadian +25% SE_English @ 3,469099
16 50% SE_English +25% SW_English +25% SW_English @ 3,472884
17 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% SW_English @ 3,47511
18 50% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,477214
19 50% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% West_Scottish @ 3,479705
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English +25% SE_English @ 3,484828
1697989 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian @ 3,370587
2 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,378425
3 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,38043
4 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,416219
5 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,434169
6 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 3,435913
7 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,437166
8 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,440364
9 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,444971
10 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,450621
11 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,454139
12 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,464153
13 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,465207
14 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 3,46785
15 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Montenegrin @ 3,468862
16 Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,469099
17 SE_English+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,472884
18 Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,47511
19 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,477214
20 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+West_Scottish @ 3,479705
21 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,484828
22 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+SW_English @ 3,485511
23 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,486326
24 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish @ 3,487283
25 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,488379
26 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 3,48847
27 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 3,489372
28 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SW_English @ 3,490022
29 Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,491501
30 SE_English+SE_English+SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,49229
31 Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,495425
32 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 3,497276
33 Hinxton4+SE_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,498884
34 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Macedonian @ 3,499231
35 SE_English+SW_English+SW_English+SW_English @ 3,500009
36 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,500241
37 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,500571
38 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+SW_English @ 3,501239
39 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+LBA_Hungary @ 3,50251
40 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 3,502682




Paternal Grandmother:
ANE 0.127395
South_Eurasian 0.015
Near_Eastern 0.392696
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.46487
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 1,911306
2 SW_English @ 1,936784
3 Utah_German @ 2,246066
4 Utah_USA @ 2,456555
5 Orcadian @ 2,467736
6 West_Scottish @ 3,132569
7 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,492869
8 Norwegian @ 4,508728
9 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,524934
10 Hinxton4 @ 5,198818
11 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 5,240989
12 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 5,864342
13 LBA_Hungary @ 5,888919
14 Swedish @ 5,919966
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6,221109
16 Hungarian @ 6,665183
17 Polish @ 6,709589
18 Russian_Voronez @ 6,977781
19 Belorussian @ 7,38053
20 Moldavian @ 7,408774
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 LBA_Hungary+Polish @ 1,134373
2 LBA_Hungary+Swedish @ 1,172717
3 Lithuanian+Spanish_Valencia @ 1,225553
4 LBA_Hungary+Norwegian @ 1,263795
5 Lithuanian+Spanish_Aragon @ 1,269733
6 Lithuanian+Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,270348
7 LBA_Hungary+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,289263
8 Belorussian+LBA_Hungary @ 1,296569
9 Lithuanian+Spanish_Cataluna @ 1,310917
10 LBA_Hungary+Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,377064
11 LBA_Hungary+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,379334
12 Polish_Estonian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 1,503552
13 LBA_Hungary+Russian_Voronez @ 1,539697
14 Basque_French+Polish_Estonian @ 1,653311
15 Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 1,667172
16 Belorussian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 1,756992
17 LBA_Hungary+Polish_Estonian @ 1,766324
18 Estonian+Spanish_Aragon @ 1,771679
19 Cyprian+Motala12 @ 1,78697
20 LBA_Hungary+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,797634
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarian +25% Abkhasian +25% Loschbour @ 0,583276
2 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod +25% Gokhem2 +25% Norwegian @ 0,833779
3 50% Lithuanian +25% Norwegian +25% Sardinian @ 0,843356
4 50% Lithuanian +25% Sardinian +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,85006
5 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod +25% Gokhem2 +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,853626
6 50% Ukrainian_Poltava +25% Gokhem2 +25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,867884
7 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod +25% Gokhem2 +25% Ukrainian_Poltava @ 0,876894
8 50% Ukrainian_Poltava +25% Gokhem2 +25% Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 0,893117
9 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Motala12 @ 0,896719
10 50% Polish +25% Gokhem2 +25% Moldavian @ 0,903003
11 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod +25% Gokhem2 +25% Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 0,904638
12 50% Ukrainian_Lviv +25% Belorussian +25% Gokhem2 @ 0,912411
13 50% Ukrainian_Lviv +25% Gokhem2 +25% Polish_Estonian @ 0,9151
14 50% Ukrainian_Poltava +25% Gokhem2 +25% Polish @ 0,91627
15 50% Ukrainian_Belgorod +25% Gokhem2 +25% West_Scottish @ 0,918787
16 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Swedish +25% Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 0,921665
17 50% Hungarian +25% Kurdish +25% Loschbour @ 0,922658
18 50% Norwegian +25% Basque_French +25% Orcadian @ 0,922841
19 50% Ukrainian_Kharkov +25% Gokhem2 +25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,936975
20 50% Utah_Scandinavian +25% Basque_French +25% Orcadian @ 0,937685
1187613 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Chechen+Kosovar+Loschbour+SE_English @ 0,381832
2 Bosnian+Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+Norwegian @ 0,39781
3 Chechen+Kosovar+Loschbour+SW_English @ 0,398909
4 Abkhasian+Loschbour+Montenegrin+Norwegian @ 0,414772
5 Abkhasian+Bosnian+Loschbour+SE_English @ 0,425187
6 Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+Serbian_Bosnia+Ukrainian_P oltava @ 0,429366
7 Bosnian+Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,429725
8 Abkhasian+Bosnian+Loschbour+SW_English @ 0,431723
9 Loschbour+SE_English+Tabassaran+Tuscan @ 0,441371
10 Abkhasian+Loschbour+Montenegrin+Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,444682
11 Abkhasian+Bosnian+Loschbour+Utah_USA @ 0,446924
12 Abkhasian+Kosovar+Lithuanian+Loschbour @ 0,447399
13 Loschbour+SW_English+Tabassaran+Tuscan @ 0,447747
14 Chechen+Loschbour+Norwegian+Tuscan @ 0,449323
15 Chechen+French+Loschbour+Macedonian @ 0,470193
16 Abkhasian+Loschbour+Montenegrin+Swedish @ 0,470299
17 Abkhasian+Loschbour+Macedonian+Swedish @ 0,472807
18 Croatian+Loschbour+North_Italian+Tabassaran @ 0,474965
19 Abkhasian+Hinxton4+Loschbour+Montenegrin @ 0,479891
20 Chechen+Loschbour+Tuscan+Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,48294
21 Chechen+Kosovar+Loschbour+Utah_German @ 0,487271
22 Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+Serbian_Bosnia+Ukrainian_B elgorod @ 0,502123
23 Chechen+Kosovar+Loschbour+Utah_USA @ 0,507759
24 Abkhasian+Bosnian+Loschbour+Utah_German @ 0,509148
25 Croatian+Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,51233
26 Chechen+French+Loschbour+Montenegrin @ 0,512621
27 Loschbour+Tabassaran+Tuscan+Utah_USA @ 0,518761
28 Abkhasian+Loschbour+Norwegian+Serbian @ 0,523463
29 French+Lezgin+Loschbour+Macedonian @ 0,53263
30 Chechen+Kosovar+Loschbour+Orcadian @ 0,535117
31 Croatian+Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 0,535508
32 Belorussian+Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+Serbian @ 0,543629
33 Abkhasian+Loschbour+Serbian_Bosnia+Utah_USA @ 0,543634
34 Abkhasian+Loschbour+Montenegrin+Polish @ 0,544118
35 Bosnian+Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,546767
36 Abkhasian+Loschbour+Serbian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,55155
37 Hungarian+Lezgin+Loschbour+North_Italian @ 0,553638
38 Croatian+Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+West_Scottish @ 0,554737
39 Loschbour+Tabassaran+Tuscan+Utah_German @ 0,566504
40 Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+Serbian_Bosnia+Ukrainian_K harkov @ 0,568079
3752421 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 2,710644
2 SW_English @ 2,91167
3 Orcadian @ 3,103247
4 Utah_USA @ 3,128629
5 West_Scottish @ 3,422357
6 Norwegian @ 3,444361
7 Utah_German @ 3,482236
8 Swedish @ 3,732854
9 Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,745207
10 Polish @ 3,803195
11 Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,930199
12 Croatian @ 3,98947
13 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,009377
14 Hungarian @ 4,148508
15 French @ 4,326524
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4,402813
17 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,408532
18 Belorussian @ 4,431973
19 Russian_Smolensk @ 4,491474
20 Hinxton4 @ 4,538849
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SE_English+SE_English @ 2,710644
2 SE_English+SW_English @ 2,815047
3 Orcadian+SE_English @ 2,910691
4 SW_English+SW_English @ 2,91167
5 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,935594
6 Norwegian+SE_English @ 2,98705
7 Georgian_Imer+Loschbour @ 2,99224
8 Serbian_Bosnia+Swedish @ 2,992254
9 Orcadian+SW_English @ 2,9946
10 Polish+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,022462
11 SW_English+Utah_USA @ 3,02303
12 Basque_French+Polish @ 3,023156
13 SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,040838
14 Norwegian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,057229
15 Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,064657
16 Norwegian+SW_English @ 3,066465
17 Polish+SE_English @ 3,066779
18 SE_English+Swedish @ 3,076146
19 LBA_Hungary+Polish @ 3,090146
20 Orcadian+Utah_USA @ 3,091667
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% SE_English +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Loschbour @ 2,404381
2 50% SE_English +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Loschbour @ 2,455383
3 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Polish @ 2,465115
4 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart @ 2,468143
5 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,469223
6 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Loschbour @ 2,514917
7 50% SW_English +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Loschbour @ 2,53307
8 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Swedish @ 2,536803
9 50% Lithuanian +25% Polish +25% Stuttgart @ 2,537338
10 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 2,537904
11 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Norwegian @ 2,539171
12 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Abkhasian +25% Loschbour @ 2,561781
13 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Loschbour @ 2,568225
14 50% SW_English +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Loschbour @ 2,572027
15 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Orcadian @ 2,590412
16 50% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart +25% Swedish @ 2,602335
17 50% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% SW_English @ 2,602428
18 50% SE_English +25% Abkhasian +25% Loschbour @ 2,608341
19 50% Lithuanian +25% Norwegian +25% Stuttgart @ 2,622654
20 50% Croatian +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Loschbour @ 2,624056
1684738 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lezgin+Lithuanian+Loschbour+Stuttgart @ 2,318869
2 Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,338527
3 Lezgin+Lithuanian+Loschbour+Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,342022
4 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+Lithuanian+Loschbour @ 2,346351
5 Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Polish+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,372162
6 Chechen+Lithuanian+Loschbour+Stuttgart @ 2,375662
7 Chechen+Lithuanian+Loschbour+Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,393299
8 Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,395278
9 Georgian_Laz+Lithuanian+Loschbour+Macedonian @ 2,39559
10 Lezgin+Loschbour+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish @ 2,398357
11 Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,404381
12 Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Serbian_Bosnia+SW_English @ 2,410805
13 Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Orcadian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,417707
14 Croatian+Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+SE_English @ 2,434637
15 Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Norwegian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,434654
16 Lezgin+Loschbour+Polish+Stuttgart @ 2,45251
17 Lithuanian+Loschbour+Stuttgart+Tabassaran @ 2,454952
18 Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,455383
19 Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Macedonian+Polish @ 2,46033
20 Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+Serbian_Bosnia+SW_English @ 2,460588
21 Georgian_Imer+Kosovar+Lithuanian+Loschbour @ 2,464134
22 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish @ 2,465115
23 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 2,468143
24 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,469223
25 Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+SE_English+SW_English @ 2,4705
26 Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Serbian_Bosnia+West_Scottis h @ 2,474865
27 Abkhasian+Loschbour+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,477685
28 Chechen+Loschbour+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish @ 2,479255
29 Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Serbian_Bosnia+Utah_USA @ 2,481993
30 Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Serbian_Bosnia+Swedish @ 2,482205
31 Loschbour+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish+Tabassaran @ 2,486539
32 Croatian+Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+Polish @ 2,490428
33 Georgian_Laz+Lithuanian+Loschbour+North_Italian @ 2,493043
34 Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+Orcadian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,495353
35 Croatian+Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+SE_English @ 2,498334
36 Croatian+Georgian_Laz+Loschbour+SW_English @ 2,501927
37 Lithuanian+Loschbour+Neolithic_Hungary+Tabassaran @ 2,504522
38 Georgian_Imer+Loschbour+Polish+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,505056
39 Georgian_Laz+Lithuanian+Loschbour+Montenegrin @ 2,509084
40 Chechen+Kosovar+Loschbour+SE_English @ 2,509648
13742319 iterations.




Mother:
ANE 0.146131
South_Eurasian 0.003298
Near_Eastern 0.421304
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.420671
Oceanian 0.003708
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.004868



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 1,932814
2 Utah_USA @ 3,429607
3 Croatian @ 3,786648
4 SW_English @ 3,977864
5 Moldavian @ 4,052445
6 SE_English @ 4,074095
7 Utah_German @ 4,145143
8 French @ 4,62531
9 Serbian_Bosnia @ 4,961257
10 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5,400022
11 West_Scottish @ 5,473899
12 Orcadian @ 5,505817
13 Bosnian @ 6,046279
14 LBA_Hungary @ 6,065383
15 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 7,305071
16 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 8,020355
17 Norwegian @ 8,166777
18 Utah_Scandinavian @ 8,178536
19 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 8,524506
20 Serbian @ 9,305435
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Serbian @ 1,173318
2 Croatian+Utah_USA @ 1,366815
3 Croatian+SE_English @ 1,367741
4 Montenegrin+Swedish @ 1,383161
5 Croatian+Utah_German @ 1,385247
6 Hinxton4+Montenegrin @ 1,398422
7 Croatian+SW_English @ 1,401164
8 Serbian_Bosnia+West_Scottish @ 1,4138
9 Serbian+Swedish @ 1,469365
10 Croatian+West_Scottish @ 1,472154
11 Norwegian+Serbian @ 1,521113
12 Croatian+Orcadian @ 1,53332
13 Montenegrin+Polish @ 1,53818
14 Orcadian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,542462
15 Bosnian+Orcadian @ 1,551414
16 Serbian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,572009
17 Bosnian+West_Scottish @ 1,599147
18 Montenegrin+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,617244
19 Belorussian+Montenegrin @ 1,624213
20 Polish+Serbian @ 1,628045
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% West_Scottish +25% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar @ 1,002242
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek +25% Polish @ 1,011972
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% Central_Greek +25% Polish @ 1,05227
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% Central_Greek +25% Hinxton4 @ 1,065981
5 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% West_Scottish @ 1,092095
6 50% West_Scottish +25% Macedonian +25% Utah_USA @ 1,094748
7 50% Hinxton4 +25% Central_Greek +25% Swedish @ 1,109257
8 50% West_Scottish +25% Macedonian +25% SE_English @ 1,112537
9 50% West_Scottish +25% Macedonian +25% SW_English @ 1,117131
10 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek +25% Norwegian @ 1,117661
11 50% Macedonian +25% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian @ 1,121714
12 50% Hinxton4 +25% Central_Greek +25% Norwegian @ 1,124795
13 50% Orcadian +25% Greek +25% Lithuanian @ 1,131736
14 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% Macedonian @ 1,132286
15 50% Hinxton4 +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Polish @ 1,134757
16 50% West_Scottish +25% Greek +25% Lithuanian @ 1,13934
17 50% Hinxton4 +25% Belorussian +25% Greek @ 1,143004
18 50% Hinxton4 +25% Bosnian +25% Macedonian @ 1,143307
19 50% West_Scottish +25% Kosovar +25% Swedish @ 1,14827
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,153709
1070309 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Kosovar+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,002242
2 Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Polish @ 1,011972
3 Croatian+Hinxton4+Montenegrin+West_Scottish @ 1,043836
4 Central_Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Polish @ 1,05227
5 Central_Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 1,065981
6 Hinxton4+Kosovar+Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 1,084654
7 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 1,092095
8 Greek+Lithuanian+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 1,092807
9 Macedonian+Utah_USA+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,094748
10 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+SE_English @ 1,095127
11 Hinxton4+Hungarian+Macedonian+West_Scottish @ 1,1002
12 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Utah_USA @ 1,107976
13 Greek+Lithuanian+SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,108077
14 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+SW_English @ 1,108607
15 Central_Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Swedish @ 1,109257
16 Croatian+Hinxton4+Montenegrin+Orcadian @ 1,111561
17 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Norwegian+West_Scottish @ 1,112088
18 Macedonian+SE_English+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,112537
19 Greek+Hinxton4+Norwegian+Polish @ 1,113392
20 Macedonian+SW_English+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,117131
21 Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Norwegian @ 1,117661
22 Greek+Lithuanian+Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 1,121638
23 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Macedonian+Macedonian @ 1,121714
24 Central_Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Norwegian @ 1,124795
25 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Polish+SE_English @ 1,124862
26 Greek+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Orcadian @ 1,131736
27 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Macedonian @ 1,132286
28 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Polish @ 1,134757
29 Greek+Lithuanian+Orcadian+SE_English @ 1,137342
30 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Polish+SW_English @ 1,137422
31 Greek+Lithuanian+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,13934
32 Hinxton4+Hungarian+Macedonian+Orcadian @ 1,139558
33 Belorussian+Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 1,143004
34 Bosnian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Macedonian @ 1,143307
35 Greek+Hinxton4+Polish+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,144312
36 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Utah_Scandinavian+West_Sco ttish @ 1,145391
37 Kosovar+Swedish+West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 1,14827
38 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Lithuanian+Utah_German @ 1,150461
39 Greek_Thessaly+Hinxton4+Polish+Utah_USA @ 1,150962
40 Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,153709
4595149 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 3,591978
2 SW_English @ 3,680612
3 Utah_USA @ 3,78178
4 Croatian @ 3,894353
5 French @ 3,95172
6 Orcadian @ 3,958169
7 Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,973039
8 West_Scottish @ 3,998758
9 Utah_German @ 4,131885
10 LBA_Hungary @ 4,133164
11 Hungarian @ 4,154685
12 Hinxton4 @ 4,291628
13 Bosnian @ 4,503993
14 Norwegian @ 4,530223
15 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,686395
16 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,716063
17 Serbian @ 4,845913
18 Montenegrin @ 4,86022
19 Polish @ 4,874104
20 Swedish @ 4,876544
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 3,547279
2 Hinxton4+Montenegrin @ 3,577646
3 SE_English+SE_English @ 3,591978
4 Croatian+SE_English @ 3,59477
5 SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,608516
6 French+SE_English @ 3,618079
7 Hinxton4+Macedonian @ 3,628722
8 SE_English+SW_English @ 3,637589
9 Kosovar+Lithuanian @ 3,641908
10 Croatian+SW_English @ 3,646987
11 Hinxton4+North_Italian @ 3,648142
12 French+Hinxton4 @ 3,660179
13 Serbian_Bosnia+SW_English @ 3,663784
14 French+SW_English @ 3,668589
15 SW_English+SW_English @ 3,680612
16 French+West_Scottish @ 3,688775
17 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 3,692
18 French+Orcadian @ 3,697258
19 LBA_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,701798
20 Orcadian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,709479
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,354347
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Stuttgart @ 3,365066
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart @ 3,433189
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian @ 3,440026
5 50% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian +25% SE_English @ 3,452601
6 50% Lithuanian +25% SE_English +25% Stuttgart @ 3,459002
7 50% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,462229
8 50% SE_English +25% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian @ 3,464465
9 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tuscan @ 3,473492
10 50% SE_English +25% North_Italian +25% SE_English @ 3,475305
11 50% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian +25% SW_English @ 3,475696
12 50% SE_English +25% Macedonian +25% SE_English @ 3,48255
13 50% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% West_Scottish @ 3,482623
14 50% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian +25% West_Scottish @ 3,482842
15 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar @ 3,484001
16 50% Hinxton4 +25% Greek +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,4842
17 50% Hinxton4 +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Polish @ 3,487557
18 50% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar +25% SE_English @ 3,48819
19 50% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart +25% SW_English @ 3,488583
20 50% SE_English +25% Montenegrin +25% SE_English @ 3,492869
1703192 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,354347
2 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Stuttgart @ 3,365066
3 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 3,433189
4 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian @ 3,440026
5 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+SE_English @ 3,452601
6 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 3,459002
7 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,462229
8 Hinxton4+North_Italian+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,464465
9 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Tuscan @ 3,473492
10 North_Italian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,475305
11 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+SW_English @ 3,475696
12 Macedonian+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,48255
13 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 3,482623
14 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+West_Scottish @ 3,482842
15 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar @ 3,484001
16 Greek+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,4842
17 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 3,484223
18 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish @ 3,487557
19 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar+SE_English @ 3,48819
20 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 3,488583
21 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 3,491228
22 Hinxton4+North_Italian+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,491248
23 Hinxton4+North_Italian+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,491757
24 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,492525
25 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+West_Scottis h @ 3,492673
26 Montenegrin+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,492869
27 Lithuanian+Polish+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 3,493145
28 Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish+SE_English @ 3,495559
29 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+Orcadian @ 3,496259
30 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Polish+Stuttgart @ 3,496672
31 Hinxton4+Kosovar+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,49672
32 Hinxton4+North_Italian+Orcadian+SE_English @ 3,498725
33 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 3,499459
34 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,499506
35 North_Italian+SE_English+SE_English+West_Scottish @ 3,501825
36 North_Italian+Orcadian+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,502527
37 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian+Utah_USA @ 3,503561
38 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian @ 3,504559
39 North_Italian+SE_English+SE_English+SW_English @ 3,5061
40 Kosovar+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 3,506176
15176513 iterations.

[Jackson]

Interesting how with regard to the three 'core' components of Europeans constructed from ancient populations northern Europeans from the far west to the far east seem even closer to one another than on other tests, for example my Grandfather has Ukrainian and Russian groups fairly high up on his oracle (and this seems normal), must of course be due the components not being split up into eastern and western groups - but it seems this must at it's core be a more accurate portrayal of the overall genetic similarity of western Eurasians to each other than say the K15 or K13 which are more useful at a 'local' level?

[Catkin]

Updated with Oneeye and Jackson's family's results. Zoomed in a bit more, so Hinxton is gone now too. Sorry, the markers are getting lest distinctive and I don't know how to change them. Oneeye, yours is to the left of your name. Jackson, your Grandfather's results are really close to mine on this :

Edit: Added Sea Warrior and SwampThing26's results

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8588/15666264674_1161fca5f4_o.jpg

[Sea Warrior]

Graham and Catkin, is there any way that I could also be included in the plots and dendrograms? My results are a few pages back, but I will include them for convenience.

ANE 0.133893
South_Eurasian 0.003692
Near_Eastern 0.405507
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.455897
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.000981
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Lower bound NE

ANE 0.132436
South_Eurasian 0.006406
Near_Eastern 0.367406
East_Eurasian 0.00033
WHG 0.491493
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.001909
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Thank you in advance!

[Catkin]

Graham and Catkin, is there any way that I could also be included in the plots and dendrograms? My results are a few pages back, but I will include them for convenience.

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Thank you in advance!

Sure! Definitely, I'm not at the right computer now, but I'll try to add you tomorrow :)

[Catkin]

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I've updated the graph above to include your results now too :)

[Rugevit]

Could this test be run through DIY Calculator or one needs to contact Davidski?

[Black Wolf]

Could this test be run through DIY Calculator or one needs to contact Davidski?

You need to contact Davidski yourself and it costs $20.00 US to have it done.

[Black Wolf]

Interesting how with regard to the three 'core' components of Europeans constructed from ancient populations northern Europeans from the far west to the far east seem even closer to one another than on other tests, for example my Grandfather has Ukrainian and Russian groups fairly high up on his oracle (and this seems normal), must of course be due the components not being split up into eastern and western groups - but it seems this must at it's core be a more accurate portrayal of the overall genetic similarity of western Eurasians to each other than say the K15 or K13 which are more useful at a 'local' level?

This is because all Northern Europeans are rather similar overall genetically. The ancient components such as Near_Eastern, WHG and ANE are actually real ancient ancestral components whereas the components from the K13 and K15 tests are not so much as they are made up of different proportions of the Near_Eastern, WHG, ANE and etc. components.

[Jackson]

This is because all Northern Europeans are rather similar overall genetically. The ancient components such as Near_Eastern, WHG and ANE are actually real ancient ancestral components whereas the components from the K13 and K15 tests are not so much as they are made up of different proportions of the Near_Eastern, WHG, ANE and etc. components.

Yeah, i think this should become the 'premier' of the Eurogenes runs, as it's based off of real ancient individuals and is in agreement with recent academic literature. Can't wait for more to come out over the coming months. :)

[SwampThing26]

I've updated the graph above to include your results now too :)

Do you think you could add mine? Pleeeease?

ANE 0.147364
South_Eurasian 0.004762
Near_Eastern 0.40412
East_Eurasian 0.001941
WHG 0.4233
Oceanian 0.008062
Pygmy 0.005523
Sub-Saharan 0.004928

[Catkin]

Do you think you could add mine? Pleeeease?

ANE 0.147364
South_Eurasian 0.004762
Near_Eastern 0.40412
East_Eurasian 0.001941
WHG 0.4233
Oceanian 0.008062
Pygmy 0.005523
Sub-Saharan 0.004928

Suuuure! :P I'll try to do it later :)

[Catkin]

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I've added you to the graph on the previous page as well now :)

[SwampThing26]

I've added you to the graph on the previous page as well now :)



Thank you! :thumb001:

[SwampThing26]

Updated with Oneeye and Jackson's family's results. Zoomed in a bit more, so Hinxton is gone now too. Sorry, the markers are getting lest distinctive and I don't know how to change them. Oneeye, yours is to the left of your name. Jackson, your Grandfather's results are really close to mine on this :

Edit: Added Sea Warrior and SwampThing26's results

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8588/15666264674_1161fca5f4_o.jpg

The trend seems to be that less WHG+ANE = more NE and vice versa. I don't seem to have gained the usual NE for my reduction in
WHG and ANE though. Perhaps my 1.84% SSA/Pygmy/Oceanian is the reason.

[Graham]

Took out Orkney. Only a small place really. With a bit dissimilarity to your average Scot never mind Brit. Sea warrior click the attached image, you are in half-hidden in a cluster of English.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54365&d=1421364996

[Graham]

btw, Asked Polako to run the other Hinxton samples last week. Forgot to say.. Though are low coverage, so have a large scope of error.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c_0QqzmqS8M5qGPYx3Q8q64r0LVrmwU1RLO9uRYsfqk/edit#gid=1199641803

[Rugevit]

If anyone wants to set up a spreadsheet and other add their figures, I will add those data to PCA plots

European populations only : http://postimg.org/image/46o9tatqj/full/
Middle East, Caucasus and European populations on PCA plot based on averages : http://postimg.org/image/oq9cgr4ml/full/

[Longbowman]

If anyone wants to set up a spreadsheet and other add their figures, I will add those data to PCA plots

European populations only : http://postimg.org/image/46o9tatqj/full/
Middle East, Caucasus and European populations on PCA plot based on averages : http://postimg.org/image/oq9cgr4ml/full/

You count Ashkenazis as Middle Eastern but Cypriots as European?

[Jackson]

btw, Asked Polako to run the other Hinxton samples last week. Forgot to say.. Though are low coverage, so have a large scope of error.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c_0QqzmqS8M5qGPYx3Q8q64r0LVrmwU1RLO9uRYsfqk/edit#gid=1199641803

It's odd how Hinxton5's ANE is so low, if i remember correctly that was the one that had very high Baltic and low East Euro.

[Rugevit]

You count Ashkenazis as Middle Eastern but Cypriots as European?

I forgot about Jewish populations in the first plot. I added Jewish, middle-eastern and populations from Caucasus to another plot.

[Rugevit]

Double post.

[Graham]

It's odd how Hinxton5's ANE is so low, if i remember correctly that was the one that had very high Baltic and low East Euro.

It is shaky as Polako says, with missing snps etc.. But from that it's the opposite way from the two West Scots and Grace + Mum.

[Jackson]

It is shaky as Polako says, with missing snps etc.. But from that it's the opposite way from the two West Scots and Grace + Mum.

Number 5 is an interesting one.

[RighNick]

Here are my mother's results, she is British and has ancestry from Scotland, Norfolk, and Suffolk.

ANE 0.142793
South_Eurasian 1E-005
Near_Eastern 0.388801
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.457864
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.010502



Lower bound NE

ANE 0.141377
South_Eurasian 0.001922
Near_Eastern 0.350647
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.493655
Oceanian 0.00019
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.012189

http://i.imgur.com/j0k2Pqm.png
http://i.imgur.com/4fEB4hY.png


You are within Orkney & Argyll..

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zps57cd3156.png


I've updated the graph above to include your results now too :)

Would you mind including my mother as well? I'd be very interested to see where she fits seeing as she has ancestry from all over the Isles.

[RighNick]

And here are my sister's. She has the same ancestry as me - mainly British and Iberian with some Amerindian (as evidenced by the East Asian on this test)

ANE 0.124851
South_Eurasian 1E-005
Near_Eastern 0.418186
East_Eurasian 0.043007
WHG 0.388639
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.025286



Lower bound NE

ANE 0.123064
South_Eurasian 1E-005
Near_Eastern 0.385405
East_Eurasian 0.045103
WHG 0.419949
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.026449

http://i.imgur.com/4iCiFgl.png
http://i.imgur.com/F1ioniT.png


I can do the oracle 4+ Gaussian method for you guys if you are interested.

I'm sorry to be so demanding, but would you mind running the oracle for my mother and sister above? (Or just my mother, as I assume my sister's results should be largely the same as mine)

[Thrax]

Here are a friend's results (half greek-half albanian)

ANE 0.108256
South_Eurasian 0.008148
Near_Eastern 0.602084
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.281472
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



Lower bound NE

ANE 0.106714
South_Eurasian 0.009051
Near_Eastern 0.576929
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.307267
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Dear Hevo, if you can do the oracle I would be grateful

[Hevo]

Alright here we go.


Here are my mother's results, she is British and has ancestry from Scotland, Norfolk, and Suffolk.

ANE 0.142793
South_Eurasian 1E-005
Near_Eastern 0.388801
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.457864
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.010502



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Orcadian @ 1,351763
2 Utah_German @ 1,533198
3 West_Scottish @ 1,658811
4 SE_English @ 1,729164
5 SW_English @ 1,83059
6 Utah_USA @ 2,111778
7 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,360586
8 Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,715485
9 Norwegian @ 3,776632
10 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,082161
11 Hinxton4 @ 4,526251
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5,00144
13 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 5,050619
14 Swedish @ 5,466141
15 Russian_Voronez @ 5,826985
16 Polish @ 5,852404
17 Hungarian @ 6,223635
18 Moldavian @ 6,481548
19 Belorussian @ 6,562104
20 Russian_Smolensk @ 6,691865
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Orcadian+Utah_German @ 1,209609
2 SW_English+West_Scottish @ 1,220973
3 Orcadian+SW_English @ 1,222823
4 Orcadian+SE_English @ 1,223975
5 SE_English+West_Scottish @ 1,236321
6 Orcadian+Utah_USA @ 1,297533
7 Utah_German+West_Scottish @ 1,298082
8 Utah_USA+West_Scottish @ 1,341823
9 Orcadian+Orcadian @ 1,351763
10 LBA_Hungary+Russian_Voronez @ 1,470238
11 Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 1,471019
12 LBA_Hungary+Russian_Orel @ 1,487032
13 LBA_Hungary+Russian_Kursk @ 1,494144
14 Hinxton4+Hungarian @ 1,504413
15 Utah_German+Utah_German @ 1,533198
16 Utah_Scandinavian+Utah_USA @ 1,548542
17 SE_English+Utah_German @ 1,595296
18 Norwegian+Utah_USA @ 1,611708
19 SW_English+Utah_German @ 1,638674
20 Hinxton4+Utah_USA @ 1,643104
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Belorussian +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 0,954711
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Polish +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 0,970216
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Serbian @ 0,974925
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% West_Scottish @ 0,977036
5 50% Hinxton4 +25% Lithuanian +25% North_Italian @ 0,979262
6 50% Hinxton4 +25% Russian_Smolensk +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 0,986005
7 50% Polish +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 0,986712
8 50% Hinxton4 +25% Russian_Voronez +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 0,995079
9 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% Utah_German @ 0,99587
10 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% Orcadian @ 1,011885
11 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% SW_English @ 1,020402
12 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% SE_English @ 1,030812
13 50% West_Scottish +25% Lithuanian +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1,032437
14 50% Polish +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1,035513
15 50% Hinxton4 +25% Polish_Estonian +25% Spanish_Extremadura @ 1,039936
16 50% Hinxton4 +25% Croatian +25% Utah_German @ 1,04364
17 50% Polish +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Galicia @ 1,043888
18 50% Utah_USA +25% Hinxton4 +25% Utah_German @ 1,04462
19 50% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,044626
20 50% West_Scottish +25% Lithuanian +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 1,052086
1050581 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Spanish_Baleares+West_Scottish @ 0,917604
2 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Spanish_Andalucia+West_Scottis h @ 0,929292
3 Belorussian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Extremadura @ 0,954711
4 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Polish+Spanish_Extremadura @ 0,970216
5 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Spanish_Extremadura+West_Scott ish @ 0,973149
6 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Spanish_Baleares @ 0,973416
7 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Serbian @ 0,974925
8 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 0,977036
9 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 0,979262
10 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Spanish_Extremadura+Utah_USA @ 0,980165
11 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Spanish_Extremadura+Utah_Germa n @ 0,981191
12 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Russian_Smolensk+Spanish_Extrema dura @ 0,986005
13 Hinxton4+Polish+Polish+Spanish_Extremadura @ 0,986712
14 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Russian_Voronez+Spanish_Cataluna @ 0,995079
15 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Utah_German @ 0,99587
16 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+SE_English+Spanish_Extremadura @ 1,007362
17 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Spanish_Andalucia @ 1,01121
18 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 1,011885
19 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Spanish_Extremadura+SW_English @ 1,020064
20 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SW_English @ 1,020402
21 Hinxton4+Polish+Spanish_Extremadura+Swedish @ 1,02215
22 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Spanish_Extremadura @ 1,027303
23 Belorussian+Hinxton4+Polish+Spanish_Extremadura @ 1,030667
24 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 1,030812
25 Lithuanian+Spanish_Extremadura+West_Scottish+West_ Scottish @ 1,032437
26 French+Hinxton4+Utah_Scandinavian+West_Scottish @ 1,033726
27 Hinxton4+Polish+Polish+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 1,035513
28 French+Hinxton4+Orcadian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,039065
29 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Polish_Estonian+Spanish_Extremad ura @ 1,039936
30 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Utah_German @ 1,04364
31 Hinxton4+Polish+Polish+Spanish_Galicia @ 1,043888
32 Hinxton4+Utah_German+Utah_USA+Utah_USA @ 1,04462
33 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Cataluna+Ukrainian_Belgo rod @ 1,044626
34 Hinxton4+Polish+Russian_Smolensk+Spanish_Extremadu ra @ 1,04637
35 Belorussian+Hinxton4+Spanish_Extremadura+Swedish @ 1,051277
36 Lithuanian+Spanish_Andalucia+Utah_Scandinavian+Wes t_Scottish @ 1,052028
37 Lithuanian+Spanish_Cataluna+West_Scottish+West_Sco ttish @ 1,052086
38 Lithuanian+Orcadian+Spanish_Extremadura+West_Scott ish @ 1,053648
39 Hinxton4+Lithuanian+Spanish_Murcia+West_Scottish @ 1,054171
40 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Utah_USA @ 1,057219
4979998 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hinxton4 @ 2,970249
2 Orcadian @ 3,481321
3 West_Scottish @ 3,560753
4 Utah_USA @ 3,68128
5 SW_English @ 3,703242
6 SE_English @ 3,74537
7 Utah_German @ 3,837859
8 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,084634
9 LBA_Hungary @ 4,170023
10 Norwegian @ 4,302108
11 Polish @ 4,414167
12 Swedish @ 4,551005
13 French @ 4,581495
14 Hungarian @ 4,589141
15 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,674331
16 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,779545
17 Belorussian @ 4,840695
18 Croatian @ 4,862373
19 Russian_Voronez @ 4,948366
20 Russian_Smolensk @ 5,058433
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 2,970249
2 Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,047707
3 Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,215203
4 French+Hinxton4 @ 3,220559
5 Hinxton4+SW_English @ 3,223148
6 Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 3,232667
7 Hinxton4+Utah_USA @ 3,236304
8 Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 3,245404
9 Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,373954
10 Hinxton4+Utah_German @ 3,40601
11 Basque_French+Hinxton4 @ 3,465635
12 Orcadian+Orcadian @ 3,481321
13 Croatian+Hinxton4 @ 3,505687
14 Orcadian+West_Scottish @ 3,524745
15 LBA_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 3,532106
16 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian @ 3,54085
17 Hinxton4+Hungarian @ 3,5506
18 Orcadian+Utah_USA @ 3,55935
19 Orcadian+SW_English @ 3,560236
20 West_Scottish+West_Scottish @ 3,560753
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 2,799056
2 50% Hinxton4 +25% Basque_French +25% Hinxton4 @ 2,810548
3 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian @ 2,821498
4 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary @ 2,860218
5 50% Hinxton4 +25% French +25% Hinxton4 @ 2,898798
6 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 2,908263
7 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2,926818
8 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2,92995
9 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Montenegrin @ 3,000525
10 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Baleares @ 3,006841
11 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 3,008868
12 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,011729
13 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Macedonian @ 3,042489
14 50% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary +25% LBA_Hungary @ 3,047707
15 50% Hinxton4 +25% Basque_French +25% West_Scottish @ 3,057223
16 50% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% West_Scottish @ 3,057857
17 50% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary +25% West_Scottish @ 3,065961
18 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% SE_English @ 3,069983
19 50% Hinxton4 +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Orcadian @ 3,074614
20 50% Hinxton4 +25% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3,074871
1745091 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 2,799056
2 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 2,810548
3 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+North_Italian @ 2,821498
4 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 2,860218
5 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 2,898798
6 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Valencia @ 2,908263
7 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Cantabria @ 2,926818
8 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Castilla_La_Man cha @ 2,92995
9 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 2,970249
10 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Montenegrin @ 3,000525
11 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Baleares @ 3,006841
12 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Aragon @ 3,008868
13 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,011729
14 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Macedonian @ 3,042489
15 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+LBA_Hungary @ 3,047707
16 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 3,057223
17 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+West_Scottish @ 3,057857
18 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+West_Scottish @ 3,065961
19 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,069983
20 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+Orcadian @ 3,074614
21 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Andalucia @ 3,074871
22 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SW_English @ 3,075872
23 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 3,083239
24 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Utah_USA @ 3,084233
25 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,08445
26 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,089976
27 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Kosovar @ 3,095077
28 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+SW_English @ 3,097388
29 Croatian+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4 @ 3,106975
30 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 3,107248
31 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary+Utah_USA @ 3,108092
32 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 3,110048
33 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+LBA_Hungary @ 3,119709
34 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+West_Scottish @ 3,131143
35 French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Orcadian @ 3,134863
36 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,135544
37 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Serbian @ 3,136127
38 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+SE_English @ 3,13709
39 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Tuscan @ 3,143029
40 Hinxton4+Hinxton4+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+SW_English @ 3,145161
17010510 iterations.




Sister

ANE 0.124851
South_Eurasian 1E-005
Near_Eastern 0.418186
East_Eurasian 0.043007
WHG 0.388639
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 0.025286




Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 5,343488
2 Moldavian @ 5,982867
3 Croatian @ 6,056483
4 Serbian_Bosnia @ 6,553044
5 French @ 6,72674
6 Bosnian @ 6,769368
7 Utah_USA @ 7,876029
8 Utah_German @ 8,254122
9 SW_English @ 8,341793
10 SE_English @ 8,452587
11 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 8,727908
12 LBA_Hungary @ 8,937586
13 Serbian @ 9,052021
14 West_Scottish @ 9,34427
15 Orcadian @ 9,446906
16 Spanish_Cataluna @ 10,030461
17 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 10,186576
18 Spanish_Cantabria @ 10,595095
19 Montenegrin @ 10,686
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 10,951125
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Erzya+Spanish_Canarias @ 1,439868
2 Moksha+Spanish_Canarias @ 1,589099
3 Erzya+Spanish_Murcia @ 1,75005
4 Moksha+Spanish_Murcia @ 1,783336
5 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Canarias @ 1,801165
6 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Murcia @ 1,973055
7 Moksha+Spanish_Andalucia @ 2,596669
8 Erzya+Spanish_Andalucia @ 2,747818
9 Moksha+Spanish_Galicia @ 2,752868
10 Moksha+Spanish_Extremadura @ 2,860078
11 Moksha+Spanish_Baleares @ 2,864523
12 Moksha+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2,881909
13 Erzya+Spanish_Baleares @ 2,951242
14 North_Italian+Russian_Kargopol @ 3,011958
15 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Andalucia @ 3,147479
16 Erzya+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,154993
17 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Baleares @ 3,162558
18 Erzya+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3,184119
19 Erzya+Spanish_Extremadura @ 3,194627
20 Moksha+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3,26983
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tatar @ 1,294111
2 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Erzya +25% Moksha @ 1,422112
3 50% Erzya +25% Spanish_Canarias +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 1,433695
4 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Lithuanian +25% Tatar @ 1,434306
5 50% Erzya +25% Spanish_Canarias +25% Spanish_Canarias @ 1,439868
6 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Moksha +25% Russian_Kargopol @ 1,458754
7 50% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Tatar +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,46199
8 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tatar @ 1,465554
9 50% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Swedish +25% Tatar @ 1,478303
10 50% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Norwegian +25% Tatar @ 1,501287
11 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Lithuanian +25% Tatar @ 1,515162
12 50% Moksha +25% Spanish_Canarias +25% Spanish_Murcia @ 1,529802
13 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Erzya +25% Russian_Kargopol @ 1,538473
14 50% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Polish +25% Tatar @ 1,547614
15 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Tatar +25% Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,569212
16 50% Moksha +25% Spanish_Canarias +25% Spanish_Canarias @ 1,589099
17 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tatar @ 1,608111
18 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Norwegian +25% Tatar @ 1,611933
19 50% Spanish_Extremadura +25% Belorussian +25% Tatar @ 1,61263
20 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Swedish +25% Tatar @ 1,62173
1384763 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cataluna+Tatar @ 1,092989
2 Polish+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cantabria+Tatar @ 1,14959
3 Polish+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cataluna+Tatar @ 1,155989
4 Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cantabria+Tatar @ 1,193354
5 Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cataluna+Swedish+Tatar @ 1,203782
6 Polish+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Valencia+Tatar @ 1,215039
7 Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cataluna+Tatar+Utah_Scand inavian @ 1,224939
8 Belorussian+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cantabria+Tat ar @ 1,228906
9 Norwegian+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cataluna+Tatar @ 1,241912
10 Belorussian+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cataluna+Tata r @ 1,244486
11 Belorussian+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Valencia+Tata r @ 1,245018
12 Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cantabria+Tatar+Utah_Scan dinavian @ 1,260654
13 Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cantabria+Swedish+Tatar @ 1,266303
14 Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Valencia+Tatar @ 1,271622
15 Russian_Voronez+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cantabria +Tatar @ 1,272614
16 Russian_Smolensk+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cantabri a+Tatar @ 1,279119
17 Norwegian+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cantabria+Tatar @ 1,279786
18 Russian_Smolensk+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Valencia +Tatar @ 1,28581
19 French+Orcadian+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 1,286431
20 Russian_Smolensk+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cataluna +Tatar @ 1,288613
21 Lithuanian+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Murcia+Tatar @ 1,289965
22 Hinxton4+Spanish_Extremadura+Spanish_Extremadura+T atar @ 1,294111
23 Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Valencia+Swedish+Tatar @ 1,303985
24 Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Extremadura+Swedish+Tatar @ 1,311338
25 Lebanese_Christian+Motala12+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 1,312444
26 LBA_Hungary+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar+Utah_USA @ 1,314857
27 Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Extremadura+Tata r @ 1,317603
28 French+Spanish_Canarias+SW_English+Tatar @ 1,318272
29 French+SE_English+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 1,318348
30 French+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar+Utah_German @ 1,329715
31 Russian_Voronez+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cataluna+ Tatar @ 1,330357
32 Belorussian+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Extremadura+T atar @ 1,333602
33 Polish+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Extremadura+Tatar @ 1,334494
34 Belorussian+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Castilla_La_M ancha+Tatar @ 1,339426
35 Belorussian+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Le on+Tatar @ 1,344396
36 Polish+Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 1,345839
37 Russian_Smolensk+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Extremad ura+Tatar @ 1,347766
38 Polish+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon+Ta tar @ 1,348463
39 French+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar+West_Scottish @ 1,352283
40 LBA_Hungary+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar+Utah_German @ 1,357409
9274058 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Spanish_Galicia @ 7,674703
2 Spanish_Murcia @ 8,182891
3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 8,215782
4 Spanish_Andalucia @ 8,487513
5 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 8,606923
6 Moldavian @ 8,77533
7 Hungarian @ 8,80969
8 Russian_Voronez @ 8,94885
9 Moksha @ 8,975381
10 Hinxton4 @ 9,084967
11 Spanish_Baleares @ 9,2294
12 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 9,27929
13 Spanish_Aragon @ 9,305755
14 Spanish_Cataluna @ 9,361227
15 Russian_Kargopol @ 9,387095
16 Russian_Orel @ 9,400643
17 Spanish_Valencia @ 9,419055
18 Erzya @ 9,445221
19 Spanish_Canarias @ 9,575065
20 Romanian @ 9,715842
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Murcia @ 4,135177
2 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Canarias @ 4,191588
3 Erzya+Spanish_Murcia @ 4,255149
4 Erzya+Spanish_Canarias @ 4,323845
5 Finnish+Spanish_Murcia @ 4,332951
6 Finnish+Spanish_Canarias @ 4,348612
7 Moksha+Spanish_Murcia @ 4,37252
8 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Andalucia @ 4,431329
9 Moksha+Spanish_Canarias @ 4,450521
10 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Galicia @ 4,481725
11 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4,509509
12 Erzya+Spanish_Galicia @ 4,587502
13 Erzya+Spanish_Andalucia @ 4,591214
14 Erzya+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4,627082
15 Russian_Kargopol+Spanish_Extremadura @ 4,638022
16 Moksha+Spanish_Galicia @ 4,672814
17 Finnish+Spanish_Andalucia @ 4,696548
18 Moksha+Spanish_Andalucia @ 4,701488
19 Moksha+Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4,716421
20 Finnish+Spanish_Galicia @ 4,761277
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% Chuvash +25% Spanish_Canarias @ 3,586735
2 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Chuvash +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,681311
3 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Chuvash +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,709444
4 50% Spanish_Andalucia +25% Chuvash +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,724676
5 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Chuvash +25% Spanish_Canarias @ 3,749292
6 50% Basque_French +25% Chuvash +25% Spanish_Canarias @ 3,776727
7 50% Hinxton4 +25% Spanish_Canarias +25% Tatar @ 3,795016
8 50% French +25% Chuvash +25% Spanish_Canarias @ 3,819555
9 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tatar @ 3,832831
10 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Chuvash +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,851601
11 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Chuvash +25% Hinxton4 @ 3,859972
12 50% Spanish_Andalucia +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tatar @ 3,889633
13 50% Spanish_Pais_Vasco +25% Mari +25% Spanish_Canarias @ 3,902175
14 50% Spanish_Canarias +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tatar @ 3,907493
15 50% Russian_Kargopol +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Spanish_Canarias @ 3,92163
16 50% Spanish_Galicia +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tatar @ 3,93439
17 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Spanish_Canarias +25% Tatar @ 3,942291
18 50% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon +25% Hinxton4 +25% Tatar @ 3,943513
19 50% Spanish_Murcia +25% Hinxton4 +25% Russian_Kargopol @ 3,94913
20 50% Russian_Kargopol +25% Sardinian +25% Spanish_Canarias @ 3,96474
1960726 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Pais_Vas co @ 3,366102
2 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Castilla _La_Mancha @ 3,400627
3 Chuvash+Hinxton4+North_Italian+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,410392
4 Basque_French+Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,422015
5 Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+Tatar @ 3,461764
6 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Valencia @ 3,47108
7 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Andalucia+Spanish_Canaria s @ 3,475552
8 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Sardinian+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,490993
9 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,492228
10 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cantabri a @ 3,500151
11 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Baleares+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,507002
12 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+Spanish_Canaria s @ 3,520036
13 Basque_French+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 3,52076
14 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Castilla _Y_Leon @ 3,565797
15 Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Castilla_La_Manc ha+Tatar @ 3,581438
16 Chuvash+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+Spanis h_Pais_Vasco @ 3,586735
17 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cataluna @ 3,60153
18 Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Valencia+Tatar @ 3,612693
19 Chuvash+French+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 3,618019
20 Chuvash+LBA_Hungary+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Pais_ Vasco @ 3,625964
21 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Galicia @ 3,629223
22 Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cantabria+Tatar @ 3,632295
23 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,637263
24 Hinxton4+Spanish_Aragon+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 3,649639
25 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Andalucia+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,650309
26 Hinxton4+North_Italian+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 3,655923
27 Chuvash+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+West_S cottish @ 3,656452
28 Hinxton4+Spanish_Andalucia+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 3,659025
29 Basque_French+Chuvash+French+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,669323
30 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Stuttgart @ 3,673155
31 Basque_French+Chuvash+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Pai s_Vasco @ 3,679739
32 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Murcia+Spanish_Murcia @ 3,681311
33 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Tuscan @ 3,683422
34 Chuvash+Hinxton4+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha+Spanis h_Murcia @ 3,685008
35 Chuvash+French+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,687218
36 French+Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 3,689996
37 Hinxton4+Spanish_Baleares+Spanish_Canarias+Tatar @ 3,691165
38 Hinxton4+Spanish_Canarias+Spanish_Cataluna+Tatar @ 3,695218
39 Basque_French+Chuvash+Spanish_Canarias+West_Scotti sh @ 3,696732
40 Basque_French+Chuvash+LBA_Hungary+Spanish_Canarias @ 3,697099
22438093 iterations.


Here are a friend's results (half greek-half albanian)

ANE 0.108256
South_Eurasian 0.008148
Near_Eastern 0.602084
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.281472
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005




Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 0,796241
2 Tuscan @ 2,498322
3 Kosovar @ 3,126582
4 Greek @ 4,220952
5 Central_Greek @ 4,833037
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 6,911535
7 North_Italian @ 7,668781
8 West_Sicilian @ 8,652622
9 Bulgarian @ 9,067394
10 Macedonian @ 9,812056
11 Romanian @ 10,059278
12 East_Sicilian @ 10,098322
13 Central_Sicilian @ 10,836884
14 Spanish_Murcia @ 11,395496
15 Spanish_Baleares @ 11,667253
16 Montenegrin @ 12,15265
17 South_Italian @ 12,515473
18 Spanish_Canarias @ 12,651674
19 Spanish_Andalucia @ 12,693459
20 Ashkenazi @ 12,850382
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Greek+Kosovar @ 0,729748
2 Greek_Thessaly+Greek_Thessaly @ 0,796241
3 Montenegrin+South_Italian @ 0,91745
4 Central_Greek+Kosovar @ 0,997318
5 Greek_Thessaly+Tuscan @ 1,257813
6 Serbian+South_Italian @ 1,304411
7 Cyprian+Utah_USA @ 1,334133
8 East_Sicilian+Macedonian @ 1,417425
9 Cyprian+SW_English @ 1,434052
10 Macedonian+West_Sicilian @ 1,439489
11 Cyprian+SE_English @ 1,486043
12 Bulgarian+Italian_Abruzzo @ 1,535685
13 Bulgarian+West_Sicilian @ 1,560656
14 Central_Sicilian+Macedonian @ 1,588487
15 Macedonian+South_Italian @ 1,590241
16 Italian_Abruzzo+Macedonian @ 1,625839
17 Cyprian+Utah_German @ 1,727778
18 Romanian+West_Sicilian @ 1,749799
19 East_Sicilian+Romanian @ 1,764685
20 Bulgarian+East_Sicilian @ 1,777813
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% Greek +25% Kosovar @ 0,532233
2 50% Kosovar +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 0,548543
3 50% Central_Greek +25% Macedonian +25% Tuscan @ 0,559068
4 50% North_Italian +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 0,611527
5 50% Greek +25% Greek +25% Montenegrin @ 0,627849
6 50% Greek +25% Central_Greek +25% Montenegrin @ 0,650882
7 50% Croatian +25% Armenian +25% Stuttgart @ 0,652303
8 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% Central_Greek +25% Kosovar @ 0,653834
9 50% North_Italian +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Spanish_Aragon @ 0,664536
10 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Kosovar +25% Macedonian @ 0,676204
11 50% Kosovar +25% Central_Greek +25% Greek_Thessaly @ 0,700931
12 50% Stuttgart +25% Lezgin +25% Orcadian @ 0,70654
13 50% Stuttgart +25% Lezgin +25% West_Scottish @ 0,706805
14 50% Kosovar +25% Cyprian +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,711905
15 50% Montenegrin +25% Cyprian +25% Tuscan @ 0,716691
16 50% Greek +25% Kosovar +25% Kosovar @ 0,729748
17 50% Greek +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Macedonian @ 0,734967
18 50% Greek +25% Central_Greek +25% Serbian @ 0,739718
19 50% French +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Stuttgart @ 0,74268
20 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Central_Greek +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,745528
1078043 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+SE_E nglish @ 0,430031
2 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+SW_E nglish @ 0,453923
3 Armenian+Montenegrin+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 0,506795
4 Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+Norwegian+Stuttgart @ 0,515864
5 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+Orca dian @ 0,516979
6 French+Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+Serbian @ 0,518431
7 Armenian+Hinxton4+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,523484
8 Armenian+Montenegrin+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 0,526443
9 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+Utah _German @ 0,527367
10 Georgian_Imer+LBA_Hungary+Montenegrin+Neolithic_Hu ngary @ 0,529962
11 Greek+Greek_Thessaly+Greek_Thessaly+Kosovar @ 0,532233
12 Armenian+Montenegrin+Stuttgart+Utah_USA @ 0,538191
13 Georgian_Imer+LBA_Hungary+Macedonian+Neolithic_Hun gary @ 0,540892
14 Armenian+Macedonian+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 0,542517
15 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+Swedish+Tuscan @ 0,544683
16 Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+Stuttgart+Utah_Scandina vian @ 0,54634
17 Greek_Thessaly+Italian_Abruzzo+Kosovar+Kosovar @ 0,548543
18 Armenian+Montenegrin+Stuttgart+Utah_German @ 0,554573
19 Central_Greek+Central_Greek+Macedonian+Tuscan @ 0,559068
20 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+Utah _USA @ 0,567486
21 Armenian+Macedonian+Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 0,571786
22 Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco+Tusc an @ 0,574476
23 Georgian_Laz+Hinxton4+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,57519
24 Georgian_Laz+Greek+Hinxton4+Sardinian @ 0,576421
25 French+Georgian_Laz+Serbian_Bosnia+Stuttgart @ 0,576879
26 Basque_French+Georgian_Laz+Greek_Thessaly+North_It alian @ 0,577674
27 Armenian+Macedonian+Neolithic_Hungary+Utah_USA @ 0,580426
28 Georgian_Imer+LBA_Hungary+Serbian+Stuttgart @ 0,580777
29 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+West_ Scottish @ 0,596586
30 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+Ukrai nian_Lviv @ 0,598222
31 Georgian_Imer+Hinxton4+North_Italian+Stuttgart @ 0,602128
32 Georgian_Laz+Greek_Thessaly+Sardinian+SE_English @ 0,610183
33 Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+North_Italian+Spanish_V alencia @ 0,611527
34 Georgian_Laz+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+Tuscan @ 0,619503
35 Georgian_Laz+Greek_Thessaly+Sardinian+SW_English @ 0,619956
36 Armenian+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Swedish @ 0,620986
37 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+West _Scottish @ 0,626106
38 Georgian_Laz+Sardinian+Tuscan+West_Scottish @ 0,626161
39 Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+Polish+Stuttgart @ 0,626594
40 Armenian+Macedonian+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 0,627819
3588860 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Kosovar @ 2,713756
2 Greek_Thessaly @ 3,198155
3 Tuscan @ 3,275041
4 Greek @ 3,365034
5 Central_Greek @ 3,541324
6 North_Italian @ 3,652101
7 Macedonian @ 4,263758
8 Italian_Abruzzo @ 4,313094
9 Bulgarian @ 4,777244
10 Montenegrin @ 4,856313
11 Romanian @ 5,030424
12 West_Sicilian @ 5,313632
13 Serbian @ 5,551406
14 Spanish_Baleares @ 5,745771
15 East_Sicilian @ 5,824408
16 South_Italian @ 5,869055
17 Central_Sicilian @ 5,988311
18 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 6,208282
19 Spanish_Valencia @ 6,268885
20 Spanish_Aragon @ 6,304065
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Kosovar+Kosovar @ 2,713756
2 Greek+Kosovar @ 2,830838
3 Central_Greek+Kosovar @ 2,883244
4 Kosovar+Tuscan @ 2,916219
5 Central_Greek+North_Italian @ 2,928551
6 Greek_Thessaly+Kosovar @ 2,951434
7 Greek+North_Italian @ 2,988732
8 Kosovar+North_Italian @ 3,042471
9 Greek+Macedonian @ 3,156058
10 Greek_Thessaly+North_Italian @ 3,156793
11 Greek_Thessaly+Tuscan @ 3,162327
12 Greek+Greek_Thessaly @ 3,185647
13 Central_Greek+Macedonian @ 3,189732
14 Greek_Thessaly+Greek_Thessaly @ 3,198155
15 Greek+Tuscan @ 3,212973
16 Central_Greek+Tuscan @ 3,223036
17 Georgian_Laz+Gokhem2 @ 3,23426
18 Central_Greek+Greek_Thessaly @ 3,260588
19 Italian_Abruzzo+Kosovar @ 3,265468
20 Tuscan+Tuscan @ 3,275041
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Lithuanian @ 2,187264
2 50% Stuttgart +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Lithuanian @ 2,213311
3 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Lithuanian @ 2,21418
4 50% Stuttgart +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Lithuanian @ 2,25664
5 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Polish @ 2,313937
6 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Laz +25% Polish @ 2,317477
7 50% Stuttgart +25% Lezgin +25% SE_English @ 2,387616
8 50% Stuttgart +25% Chechen +25% SE_English @ 2,389557
9 50% Stuttgart +25% Abkhasian +25% Lithuanian @ 2,408372
10 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Abkhasian +25% Polish @ 2,430438
11 50% Kosovar +25% Kosovar +25% Stuttgart @ 2,43241
12 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Swedish @ 2,432849
13 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Chechen +25% SE_English @ 2,433949
14 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Lezgin +25% SE_English @ 2,438978
15 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Hinxton4 @ 2,441618
16 50% Stuttgart +25% Lezgin +25% SW_English @ 2,442173
17 50% Stuttgart +25% Chechen +25% SW_English @ 2,446439
18 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Georgian_Imer +25% Norwegian @ 2,44655
19 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Abkhasian +25% Lithuanian @ 2,453122
20 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Lezgin +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,458726
1633731 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgian_Laz+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgar t @ 2,179785
2 Georgian_Laz+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithi c_Hungary @ 2,187264
3 Georgian_Laz+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,213311
4 Georgian_Imer+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolith ic_Hungary @ 2,21418
5 Georgian_Imer+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttga rt @ 2,215266
6 Georgian_Imer+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,25664
7 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+ Polish @ 2,313937
8 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+P olish @ 2,317477
9 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+SE_En glish @ 2,329483
10 Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,332312
11 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 2,347354
12 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+SW_En glish @ 2,386135
13 Lezgin+SE_English+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,387616
14 Chechen+SE_English+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,389557
15 Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,390279
16 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish+Stuttgart @ 2,392686
17 Chechen+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,394391
18 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,395247
19 Lezgin+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,395987
20 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish+Stuttgart @ 2,397601
21 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+SW_English @ 2,402918
22 Abkhasian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,408372
23 Abkhasian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart @ 2,413579
24 Georgian_Laz+North_Italian+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 2,42108
25 Abkhasian+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+Poli sh @ 2,430438
26 Kosovar+Kosovar+Kosovar+Stuttgart @ 2,43241
27 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+ Swedish @ 2,432849
28 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+Orcad ian @ 2,433578
29 Chechen+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_Eng lish @ 2,433949
30 Lezgin+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_Engl ish @ 2,438978
31 Georgian_Imer+Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic _Hungary @ 2,441618
32 Lezgin+Stuttgart+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,442173
33 Chechen+Stuttgart+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,446439
34 Georgian_Imer+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+ Norwegian @ 2,44655
35 Lezgin+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,448907
36 Chechen+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,449746
37 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,450587
38 Georgian_Laz+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+Utah_ USA @ 2,450974
39 Abkhasian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_H ungary @ 2,453122
40 Georgian_Laz+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Orcadian @ 2,45499
12763967 iterations.

[Black Wolf]

I cluster with Hungarians which seems to make sense given what I know of my mixed ancestry.

[Gaita]

My West Eurasian K8 results

ANE 6.8667%
South_Eurasian 0.1766%
Near_Eastern 50.4473%
East_Eurasian 2.2724%
WHG0 37.6176%
Oceanian 0.2761%
Pygmy1E-005
Sub-Saharan 2.3424%


Lower bound NE

ANE 6.73%
South_Eurasian 0.2952%
Near_Eastern 47.2975%
East_Eurasian 2.3535%
WHG 40.5825%
Oceanian 0.3337%
Pygmy1E-005
Sub-Saharan 2.4066%

http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab245/galizacelta78/Mobile%20Uploads/AD9A03AF-A6AC-4DCB-AE18-26CF33C9269A_zpsfuzzoidq.png
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab245/galizacelta78/Mobile%20Uploads/697B0D0F-CC1F-4411-8AB0-1D2E98D8F683_zpsnhxezakg.png (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/galizacelta78/media/Mobile%20Uploads/697B0D0F-CC1F-4411-8AB0-1D2E98D8F683_zpsnhxezakg.png.html)

[Longbowman]

My West Eurasian K8 results

ANE 6.8667%
South_Eurasian 0.1766%
Near_Eastern 50.4473%
East_Eurasian 2.2724%
WHG0 37.6176%
Oceanian 0.2761%
Pygmy1E-005
Sub-Saharan 2.3424%


Lower bound NE

ANE 6.73%
South_Eurasian 0.2952%
Near_Eastern 47.2975%
East_Eurasian 2.3535%
WHG 40.5825%
Oceanian 0.3337%
Pygmy1E-005
Sub-Saharan 2.4066%

http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab245/galizacelta78/Mobile%20Uploads/AD9A03AF-A6AC-4DCB-AE18-26CF33C9269A_zpsfuzzoidq.png
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab245/galizacelta78/Mobile%20Uploads/697B0D0F-CC1F-4411-8AB0-1D2E98D8F683_zpsnhxezakg.png (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/galizacelta78/media/Mobile%20Uploads/697B0D0F-CC1F-4411-8AB0-1D2E98D8F683_zpsnhxezakg.png.html)

Dat Iberian SSA. Unusually high EEA though :thumb001:

[Vasconcelos]

Unusually high EEA though :thumb001:

It's extremelly high :confused:

[Longbowman]

It's extremelly high :confused:

I also have high EEA but I have ancestry from the East so it's more conceivable. For Gaita though, I'm stumped. Does he have Native ancestry?

[Gaita]

I also have high EEA but I have ancestry from the East so it's more conceivable. For Gaita though, I'm stumped. Does he have Native ancestry?

No, not that I'm aware of.

[Gaston]

No, not that I'm aware of.

Could be basal/proto-East Eurasian linked to mtdna M1 for instance. That's one of David's hypotheses at least.

[Longbowman]

Could be basal/proto-East Eurasian linked to mtdna M1 for instance. That's one of David's hypotheses at least.

But most Spaniards have less than 1% and his mtDNA is J1.

http://i57.tinypic.com/magoxd.png

[Gaston]

But most Spaniards have less than 1% and his mtDNA is J1.

http://i57.tinypic.com/magoxd.png

Northwestern Iberia is a hotspot for North African-like affinity, that's why I think the hypothesis can be applied to this non-MENA guy. It's more realistic than direct East Asian or Native American ancestry. But at the end of the day, I think we agree, it's still speculation.

[Longbowman]

Northwestern Iberia is a hotspot for North African-like affinity, that's why I think the hypothesis can be applied to this non-MENA guy. It's more realistic than direct East Asian or Native American ancestry. But at the end of the day, I think we agree, it's still speculation.

High speculation, 2-2.5% EEA in an area where the norm is 1/3 of that. I thought mine was high but at least I'm part AJ/Eastern Euro.

[Graham]

Gaita 0.022724
Spanish_Murcia 0.021062
Spanish_Murcia 0.017718
Spanish_Andalucia 0.017438
Spanish_Canarias 0.016351
Spanish_Murcia 0.01557
Spanish_Baleares 0.01474
Spanish_Galicia 0.014145
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.013575
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.013477
Spanish_Cantabria 0.012986
Spanish_Galicia 0.012909
Spanish_Galicia 0.012813
Spanish_Aragon 0.012209
Spanish_Galicia 0.011676
Spanish_Murcia 0.01154
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.011361
Spanish_Cataluna 0.010086
Spanish_Aragon 0.009119
Spanish_Extremadura 0.008864
Spanish_Baleares 0.008728
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.008576
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 0.008492
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.008269
Spanish_Galicia 0.008095
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 0.008038
Spanish_Murcia 0.007807
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.007753
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.007623
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.007182
Spanish_Andalucia 0.007038
Spanish_Aragon 0.006993
Spanish_Cataluna 0.006914
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.006698
Spanish_Galicia 0.006683
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 0.00642
Spanish_Extremadura 0.005856
Spanish_Baleares 0.005043
Spanish_Baleares 0.0047
Spanish_Extremadura 0.004633
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.004481
Spanish_Baleares 0.004065
Spanish_Galicia 0.003929
Spanish_Aragon 0.003927
Spanish_Galicia 0.003783
Spanish_Andalucia 0.003661
Spanish_Aragon 0.003642
Spanish_Extremadura 0.003437
Spanish_Cantabria 0.003047
Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 0.002952
Spanish_Baleares 0.002432
Spanish_Canarias 0.002356
Spanish_Cantabria 0.00221
Spanish_Cantabria 0.001949
Spanish_Cataluna 0.001864
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.001782
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 0.001765
Spanish_Baleares 0.000478
Spanish_Baleares 0.000362
Spanish_Andalucia 0.00001
Spanish_Cantabria 0.00001
Spanish_Cantabria 0.00001
Spanish_Cataluna 0.00001
Spanish_Cataluna 0.00001
Spanish_Extremadura 0.00001
Spanish_Extremadura 0.00001
Spanish_Extremadura 0.00001
Spanish_Extremadura 0.00001
Spanish_Murcia 0.00001

[Graham]

Don't shoot the messenger

Moroccan 0.028936
Moroccan 0.027957
Moroccan 0.025872
Moroccan 0.0236
Moroccan 0.022358
Moroccan 0.020443
Moroccan 0.019761
Moroccan 0.019167
Moroccan 0.018116
Moroccan 0.016744
Moroccan 0.015263
Moroccan 0.014882
Moroccan 0.012785
French 0.012644
Moroccan 0.012512
French 0.012451
Moroccan 0.012141
Moroccan 0.012118
Moroccan 0.012115
French 0.0105
French 0.010495
Moroccan 0.010361
French 0.010042
Moroccan 0.009133
French 0.008843
French 0.007254
Moroccan 0.005704
French 0.004963
French 0.004761
French 0.003786
French 0.003443
French 0.001973
French 0.001294
French 0.001031
French 0.000018
French 0.000015
Moroccan 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001

[Gaita]

Don't shoot the messenger

Moroccan 0.028936
Moroccan 0.027957
Moroccan 0.025872
Moroccan 0.0236
Moroccan 0.022358
Moroccan 0.020443
Moroccan 0.019761
Moroccan 0.019167
Moroccan 0.018116
Moroccan 0.016744
Moroccan 0.015263
Moroccan 0.014882
Moroccan 0.012785
French 0.012644
Moroccan 0.012512
French 0.012451
Moroccan 0.012141
Moroccan 0.012118
Moroccan 0.012115
French 0.0105
French 0.010495
Moroccan 0.010361
French 0.010042
Moroccan 0.009133
French 0.008843
French 0.007254
Moroccan 0.005704
French 0.004963
French 0.004761
French 0.003786
French 0.003443
French 0.001973
French 0.001294
French 0.001031
French 0.000018
French 0.000015
Moroccan 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001
French 0.00001


Is this one for me?

[Gaita]

High speculation, 2-2.5% EEA in an area where the norm is 1/3 of that. I thought mine was high but at least I'm part AJ/Eastern Euro.

I know for certain all 8 sets of my great grandparents were born in Galicia, but further than that I'm not 100% sure.

A side note, which may be revealing, is that on 23andme I do show quite a few AJ relatives from Eastern Europe, Russia, Ukraine... Etc.

[Vasconcelos]

I know for certain all 8 sets of my great grandparents were born in Galicia, but further than that I'm not 100% sure.

A side note, which may be revealing, is that on 23andme I do show quite a few AJ relatives from Eastern Europe, Russia, Ukraine... Etc.

It would be really uncommon for a person with your background to have AJ ancestry.

[Gaita]

It would be really uncommon for a person with your background to have AJ ancestry.

Yes I know it's unlikely but maybe it's the other way around, might have been a shared SJ ancestor who was either expelled or decided to leave Spain and eventually ended up in Eastern Europe.

[Gaita]

Wow this thread has come to a screeching halt huh?

[Catkin]

Here are my mother's results, she is British and has ancestry from Scotland, Norfolk, and Suffolk.

...

Would you mind including my mother as well? I'd be very interested to see where she fits seeing as she has ancestry from all over the Isles.

So sorry, I seem to have missed this before. Here you are :).

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8665/15799155074_0e8b13e430_o.jpg

[Catkin]

Aw, yes it's a strange thing to explain to people anyway, and the older generation more so I think. The only relative I have left from my grandparents' generation is a sister of my grandad, but she has dementia. She was always a very feisty Irish woman and she is even more so now! I think she'd happily spit, but not in a tube!

She died yesterday :(. Aged 91, so she did pretty well. I now have no living relatives from my grandparents' generation.

[Sizzo]

ANE 0.084202
South_Eurasian 0.004335
Near_Eastern 0.579534
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.331888
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005


Lower bound NE

ANE 0.082912
South_Eurasian 0.005656
Near_Eastern 0.550956
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.360435
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 1E-005
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 1,949136
2 Kosovar @ 4,217999
3 Tuscan @ 4,854373
4 Greek_Thessaly @ 6,059277
5 Spanish_Baleares @ 6,233864
6 Spanish_Murcia @ 6,450127
7 Macedonian @ 7,067063
8 Spanish_Andalucia @ 7,255807
9 Bulgarian @ 7,307525
10 Romanian @ 8,062978
11 Spanish_Canarias @ 8,377496
12 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 8,392106
13 Spanish_Extremadura @ 8,539601
14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 8,613183
15 Spanish_Galicia @ 8,725859
16 Montenegrin @ 8,861179
17 Greek @ 9,537558
18 Spanish_Aragon @ 9,960951
19 Spanish_Valencia @ 9,99761
20 Central_Greek @ 10,53524
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Greek+Spanish_Aragon @ 1,289019
2 Greek+Spanish_Valencia @ 1,534894
3 Spanish_Baleares+Tuscan @ 1,540499
4 Greek+Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1,571136
5 South_Italian+Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 1,587771
6 Central_Greek+Spanish_Aragon @ 1,612836
7 Italian_Abruzzo+Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,654648
8 Italian_Abruzzo+Spanish_Aragon @ 1,655613
9 North_Italian+Tuscan @ 1,677089
10 Basque_French+South_Italian @ 1,68312
11 Croatian+Stuttgart @ 1,757243
12 Italian_Abruzzo+Spanish_Valencia @ 1,779668
13 Bosnian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 1,782016
14 Bosnian+Stuttgart @ 1,867469
15 Greek+Spanish_Cantabria @ 1,905897
16 Central_Greek+Spanish_Valencia @ 1,919896
17 Hungarian+Stuttgart @ 1,94738
18 North_Italian+North_Italian @ 1,949136
19 LBA_Hungary+South_Italian @ 1,953806
20 Italian_Abruzzo+Spanish_Cataluna @ 1,98718
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Tuscan +25% Stuttgart +25% West_Scottish @ 0,693169
2 50% Tuscan +25% Orcadian +25% Stuttgart @ 0,70447
3 50% North_Italian +25% North_Italian +25% Tuscan @ 0,767157
4 50% Macedonian +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% North_Italian @ 0,788872
5 50% Tuscan +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Utah_USA @ 0,827569
6 50% Kosovar +25% French +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,833675
7 50% Kosovar +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Stuttgart @ 0,848495
8 50% Montenegrin +25% North_Italian +25% Stuttgart @ 0,857125
9 50% Tuscan +25% SE_English +25% Stuttgart @ 0,8811
10 50% Tuscan +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% SE_English @ 0,884769
11 50% Tuscan +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% SW_English @ 0,891015
12 50% Tuscan +25% Stuttgart +25% Utah_German @ 0,892533
13 50% Tuscan +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Utah_German @ 0,909395
14 50% Tuscan +25% Stuttgart +25% SW_English @ 0,91878
15 50% Montenegrin +25% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Tuscan @ 0,961871
16 50% Tuscan +25% Croatian +25% Sardinian @ 0,967197
17 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,975827
18 50% Greek +25% Basque_French +25% North_Italian @ 0,9802
19 50% Tuscan +25% Stuttgart +25% Utah_USA @ 0,9824
20 50% Greek +25% Sardinian +25% SW_English @ 0,983377
1057286 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek+North_Italian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 0,690441
2 Stuttgart+Tuscan+Tuscan+West_Scottish @ 0,693169
3 Greek+North_Italian+Stuttgart+Utah_USA @ 0,703503
4 Greek+North_Italian+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 0,703577
5 Orcadian+Stuttgart+Tuscan+Tuscan @ 0,70447
6 Greek+North_Italian+Stuttgart+Utah_German @ 0,739338
7 Italian_Abruzzo+North_Italian+Stuttgart+West_Scott ish @ 0,751643
8 Central_Greek+North_Italian+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 0,752357
9 Italian_Abruzzo+North_Italian+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 0,752967
10 Greek+LBA_Hungary+Macedonian+Stuttgart @ 0,758407
11 Central_Greek+North_Italian+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 0,761516
12 French+Macedonian+Stuttgart+Tuscan @ 0,762345
13 North_Italian+North_Italian+North_Italian+Tuscan @ 0,767157
14 Hinxton4+Italian_Abruzzo+Neolithic_Hungary+Tuscan @ 0,773135
15 Macedonian+Montenegrin+North_Italian+Stuttgart @ 0,778635
16 Greek+Hinxton4+Stuttgart+Tuscan @ 0,783538
17 Croatian+Kosovar+North_Italian+Stuttgart @ 0,78519
18 Macedonian+Macedonian+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Ital ian @ 0,788872
19 Kosovar+Stuttgart+SW_English+Tuscan @ 0,801899
20 Italian_Abruzzo+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+Ut ah_USA @ 0,812187
21 Central_Greek+North_Italian+Stuttgart+Utah_USA @ 0,816272
22 Kosovar+SE_English+Stuttgart+Tuscan @ 0,817442
23 Greek+North_Italian+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 0,818929
24 Kosovar+Stuttgart+Tuscan+Utah_USA @ 0,819464
25 Italian_Abruzzo+LBA_Hungary+Montenegrin+Stuttgart @ 0,820976
26 Greek+North_Italian+Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 0,823434
27 Neolithic_Hungary+Tuscan+Tuscan+Utah_USA @ 0,827569
28 Hungarian+North_Italian+Stuttgart+Tuscan @ 0,831068
29 French+Kosovar+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,833675
30 Italian_Abruzzo+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+SE _English @ 0,840221
31 Greek+Neolithic_Hungary+Orcadian+Tuscan @ 0,843
32 Central_Greek+North_Italian+Stuttgart+Utah_German @ 0,843927
33 Central_Greek+LBA_Hungary+Macedonian+Stuttgart @ 0,844398
34 Kosovar+Kosovar+LBA_Hungary+Stuttgart @ 0,848495
35 Italian_Abruzzo+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+SW _English @ 0,85141
36 Montenegrin+Montenegrin+North_Italian+Stuttgart @ 0,857125
37 Greek+Hungarian+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian @ 0,859934
38 Croatian+Greek_Thessaly+Neolithic_Hungary+North_It alian @ 0,862877
39 Greek+LBA_Hungary+Romanian+Stuttgart @ 0,868983
40 Italian_Abruzzo+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+Ut ah_German @ 0,870838
4092623 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 3,151
2 Kosovar @ 3,762054
3 Tuscan @ 3,840638
4 Greek_Thessaly @ 4,346733
5 Macedonian @ 4,363104
6 Montenegrin @ 4,655425
7 Greek @ 4,699095
8 Spanish_Baleares @ 4,717801
9 Spanish_Aragon @ 4,811544
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4,839016
11 Spanish_Valencia @ 4,961908
12 Bulgarian @ 4,974671
13 Romanian @ 5,077571
14 Central_Greek @ 5,078966
15 Spanish_Andalucia @ 5,090733
16 Serbian @ 5,204114
17 Spanish_Cantabria @ 5,253948
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5,400575
19 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5,442304
20 Spanish_Cataluna @ 5,453607
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,98287
2 Croatian+Stuttgart @ 2,985848
3 Montenegrin+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,030797
4 Stuttgart+SW_English @ 3,041496
5 Serbian_Bosnia+Stuttgart @ 3,041629
6 Croatian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,051901
7 Neolithic_Hungary+Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,083718
8 Stuttgart+Utah_USA @ 3,098227
9 French+Stuttgart @ 3,107804
10 Macedonian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,113594
11 Montenegrin+Stuttgart @ 3,143232
12 North_Italian+North_Italian @ 3,151
13 Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 3,167426
14 Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 3,170764
15 French+Neolithic_Hungary @ 3,184051
16 Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English @ 3,21158
17 Neolithic_Hungary+Serbian @ 3,257893
18 Neolithic_Hungary+SW_English @ 3,261961
19 Hungarian+Stuttgart @ 3,263014
20 Hinxton4+Stuttgart @ 3,276607
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Stuttgart +25% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar @ 2,828932
2 50% Stuttgart +25% Hinxton4 +25% Macedonian @ 2,852577
3 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Hinxton4 +25% Kosovar @ 2,856106
4 50% Stuttgart +25% Macedonian +25% SE_English @ 2,85844
5 50% Stuttgart +25% Montenegrin +25% SE_English @ 2,860712
6 50% Stuttgart +25% Hinxton4 +25% North_Italian @ 2,863335
7 50% Stuttgart +25% Hinxton4 +25% Montenegrin @ 2,864759
8 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Kosovar +25% SE_English @ 2,879247
9 50% Stuttgart +25% Kosovar +25% Lithuanian @ 2,88528
10 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Kosovar +25% West_Scottish @ 2,886644
11 50% Stuttgart +25% Macedonian +25% West_Scottish @ 2,88903
12 50% Stuttgart +25% Montenegrin +25% West_Scottish @ 2,894807
13 50% Stuttgart +25% Kosovar +25% Polish @ 2,895742
14 50% Stuttgart +25% Macedonian +25% Orcadian @ 2,896135
15 50% Stuttgart +25% Macedonian +25% SW_English @ 2,897
16 50% Stuttgart +25% Montenegrin +25% SW_English @ 2,897738
17 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Macedonian +25% SE_English @ 2,899713
18 50% Neolithic_Hungary +25% Kosovar +25% Orcadian @ 2,901735
19 50% Stuttgart +25% Montenegrin +25% Orcadian @ 2,905882
20 50% Stuttgart +25% Kosovar +25% West_Scottish @ 2,91158
1623727 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Hinxton4+Kosovar+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,828932
2 Hinxton4+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart @ 2,831478
3 Hinxton4+Macedonian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,852577
4 Hinxton4+Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hunga ry @ 2,856106
5 Macedonian+SE_English+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,85844
6 Montenegrin+SE_English+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,860712
7 Hinxton4+North_Italian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,863335
8 Hinxton4+Montenegrin+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,864759
9 Macedonian+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,868354
10 Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_Eng lish @ 2,879247
11 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,88528
12 Montenegrin+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,885756
13 Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+West_S cottish @ 2,886644
14 Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 2,888106
15 Macedonian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 2,88903
16 Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_English+Stuttgart @ 2,889757
17 Hinxton4+Neolithic_Hungary+North_Italian+Stuttgart @ 2,891037
18 Montenegrin+Stuttgart+Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 2,894807
19 Kosovar+Polish+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,895742
20 Macedonian+Orcadian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,896135
21 Hinxton4+Macedonian+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart @ 2,896718
22 Macedonian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,897
23 Montenegrin+Stuttgart+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,897738
24 Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish+Stuttgart @ 2,899332
25 Macedonian+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+SE_ English @ 2,899713
26 Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+Orcadi an @ 2,901735
27 Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 2,90242
28 Macedonian+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,905866
29 Montenegrin+Orcadian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,905882
30 Macedonian+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart+West_Scotti sh @ 2,907604
31 Kosovar+Stuttgart+Stuttgart+West_Scottish @ 2,91158
32 Macedonian+Neolithic_Hungary+Orcadian+Stuttgart @ 2,9154
33 Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+SW_Eng lish @ 2,919554
34 Montenegrin+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart+SW_English @ 2,921493
35 Kosovar+SE_English+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,922269
36 Hinxton4+Montenegrin+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart @ 2,923143
37 Kosovar+Neolithic_Hungary+Neolithic_Hungary+Polish @ 2,924315
38 Kosovar+Orcadian+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,924947
39 North_Italian+Polish+Stuttgart+Stuttgart @ 2,92676
40 Montenegrin+Neolithic_Hungary+Stuttgart+West_Scott ish @ 2,92808
13119291 iterations.

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Thanks to Hevo for the oracle.

[Sockorer]

ANE 15.7%
South_Eurasian 1.3%
Near_Eastern 38.5%
WHG 44.1%
East_Eurasian 1E-005
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.000901
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



54754


Hevo, can you run me through the oracle? :)


ANE 0.157802
South_Eurasian 0.013954
Near_Eastern 0.385513
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.441799
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.000901
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

[Hevo]

ANE 15.7%
South_Eurasian 1.3%
Near_Eastern 38.5%
WHG 44.1%
East_Eurasian 1E-005
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.000901
Sub-Saharan 1E-005



54754


Hevo, can you run me through the oracle? :)


ANE 0.157802
South_Eurasian 0.013954
Near_Eastern 0.385513
East_Eurasian 1E-005
WHG 0.441799
Oceanian 1E-005
Pygmy 0.000901
Sub-Saharan 1E-005

Sure.:cheers:


east-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,081831
2 West_Scottish @ 1,801323
3 Utah_German @ 2,19396
4 Orcadian @ 2,201236
5 Utah_USA @ 2,715698
6 SE_English @ 2,745415
7 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 2,784843
8 SW_English @ 2,88743
9 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3,538939
10 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 3,958725
11 Norwegian @ 3,990205
12 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,009402
13 Moldavian @ 4,678198
14 Russian_Voronez @ 5,172725
15 Hungarian @ 5,455199
16 Hinxton4 @ 5,584789
17 Polish @ 5,661459
18 Russian_Orel @ 5,910287
19 Swedish @ 5,936714
20 Russian_Kursk @ 6,004477
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Hungarian+Polish @ 0,66623
2 Lithuanian+Serbian @ 0,721893
3 Croatian+Polish_Estonian @ 0,893571
4 Belorussian+Hungarian @ 0,911872
5 Belorussian+Croatian @ 0,950859
6 Ukrainian_Lviv+Utah_German @ 0,960623
7 Croatian+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,978129
8 Ukrainian_Lviv+West_Scottish @ 1,03183
9 Hungarian+Russian_Smolensk @ 1,062704
10 Moldavian+Norwegian @ 1,070019
11 Ukrainian_Lviv+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,081831
12 Ukrainian_Lviv+Utah_USA @ 1,100724
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod+Utah_USA @ 1,10324
14 Hungarian+Russian_Voronez @ 1,114924
15 Orcadian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,123491
16 SE_English+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,131803
17 Moldavian+Utah_Scandinavian @ 1,134547
18 Polish_Estonian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,157607
19 Ukrainian_Poltava+Utah_USA @ 1,166852
20 SW_English+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1,195237
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Polish +25% Macedonian +25% Polish @ 0,42734
2 50% Polish +25% Belorussian +25% Macedonian @ 0,434852
3 50% Polish +25% Kosovar +25% Lithuanian @ 0,438214
4 50% Polish +25% Macedonian +25% Russian_Smolensk @ 0,486376
5 50% Lithuanian +25% Bosnian +25% Macedonian @ 0,496272
6 50% Bosnian +25% Lithuanian +25% Polish @ 0,509283
7 50% Lithuanian +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,511745
8 50% Lithuanian +25% Central_Greek +25% Polish @ 0,519131
9 50% Croatian +25% Lithuanian +25% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,523569
10 50% Belorussian +25% Macedonian +25% Polish @ 0,529264
11 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Lithuanian +25% Russian_Kursk @ 0,531264
12 50% Lithuanian +25% Bulgarian +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,531876
13 50% Polish +25% Montenegrin +25% Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 0,53419
14 50% Bosnian +25% Lithuanian +25% Swedish @ 0,534569
15 50% Lithuanian +25% Bulgarian +25% Croatian @ 0,535798
16 50% Lithuanian +25% Romanian +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,557468
17 50% Croatian +25% Lithuanian +25% Ukrainian_Poltava @ 0,560093
18 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Lithuanian +25% Russian_Voronez @ 0,567904
19 50% Bosnian +25% Belorussian +25% Lithuanian @ 0,568052
20 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Lithuanian +25% Russian_Orel @ 0,568082
1047633 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bosnian+Lithuanian+Polish+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,403569
2 Macedonian+Polish+Polish+Polish @ 0,42734
3 Belorussian+Macedonian+Polish+Polish @ 0,434852
4 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Polish+Polish @ 0,438214
5 Croatian+Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia+Ukrainian_Belgo rod @ 0,458263
6 Bosnian+Orcadian+Polish+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,483248
7 Macedonian+Polish+Polish+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,486376
8 Bosnian+Norwegian+Polish+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,490487
9 Bosnian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Macedonian @ 0,496272
10 Belorussian+Kosovar+Lithuanian+Polish @ 0,500022
11 Belorussian+Bosnian+Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,501545
12 Bosnian+Bosnian+Lithuanian+Polish @ 0,509283
13 Greek_Thessaly+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Lvi v @ 0,511745
14 Polish+Serbian_Bosnia+Ukrainian_Belgorod+West_Scot tish @ 0,514064
15 Central_Greek+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Polish @ 0,519131
16 Croatian+Croatian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,523569
17 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Orcadian+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,527235
18 Bosnian+Polish+Ukrainian_Lviv+Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,527319
19 Bosnian+Croatian+Lithuanian+Polish @ 0,52779
20 Belorussian+Belorussian+Macedonian+Polish @ 0,529264
21 Lithuanian+Russian_Kursk+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bo snia @ 0,531264
22 Bulgarian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,531876
23 Montenegrin+Polish+Polish+Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 0,53419
24 Bosnian+Bosnian+Lithuanian+Swedish @ 0,534569
25 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Ukrainian_Belgorod+West_Scot tish @ 0,535429
26 Bulgarian+Croatian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 0,535798
27 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Norwegian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,545767
28 Bosnian+Orcadian+Polish+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 0,553429
29 Lithuanian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Tabassaran @ 0,553657
30 Bosnian+Lithuanian+Russian_Smolensk+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,556936
31 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Romanian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,557468
32 Bosnian+Polish+Ukrainian_Belgorod+West_Scottish @ 0,558923
33 Bosnian+Polish+Ukrainian_Poltava+West_Scottish @ 0,559072
34 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Polish+Russian_Smolensk @ 0,559627
35 Croatian+Croatian+Lithuanian+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 0,560093
36 Orcadian+Polish+Serbian_Bosnia+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 0,563987
37 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Ukrainian_Kharkov+West_Scott ish @ 0,566055
38 Bosnian+Lithuanian+Russian_Voronez+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,566472
39 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Russian_Kursk+Swedish @ 0,566681
40 Lithuanian+Russian_Voronez+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_ Bosnia @ 0,567904
3723544 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 2,684715
2 Orcadian @ 2,895569
3 SW_English @ 2,917808
4 Utah_USA @ 3,066026
5 West_Scottish @ 3,085809
6 Norwegian @ 3,169578
7 Polish @ 3,364477
8 Utah_German @ 3,39116
9 Utah_Scandinavian @ 3,516874
10 Swedish @ 3,55606
11 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3,586596
12 Croatian @ 3,780809
13 Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,835851
14 Hungarian @ 3,887246
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3,887639
16 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 4,0171
17 Belorussian @ 4,073733
18 Russian_Smolensk @ 4,144138
19 Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 4,246916
20 Hinxton4 @ 4,324919
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Polish+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,606889
2 Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,63885
3 SE_English+SE_English @ 2,684715
4 Lithuanian+Macedonian @ 2,722715
5 Polish+SE_English @ 2,743864
6 Croatian+Polish @ 2,760515
7 Orcadian+SE_English @ 2,784579
8 Serbian_Bosnia+Swedish @ 2,78852
9 Lithuanian+Montenegrin @ 2,794599
10 Norwegian+SE_English @ 2,804167
11 SE_English+SW_English @ 2,806031
12 Norwegian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,813216
13 Polish+SW_English @ 2,835009
14 Croatian+Lithuanian @ 2,881688
15 SE_English+West_Scottish @ 2,887039
16 Orcadian+SW_English @ 2,887703
17 SE_English+Utah_USA @ 2,890034
18 Orcadian+Orcadian @ 2,895569
19 Norwegian+SW_English @ 2,904364
20 Polish+Utah_USA @ 2,906001
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Lithuanian +25% SE_English @ 2,51225
2 50% Lithuanian +25% Kosovar +25% SE_English @ 2,521497
3 50% SE_English +25% Lithuanian +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,524715
4 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Lithuanian +25% Polish @ 2,541136
5 50% Lithuanian +25% Kosovar +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,551583
6 50% SE_English +25% Polish +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,557153
7 50% Polish +25% SE_English +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,564688
8 50% Lithuanian +25% Macedonian +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,569559
9 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Lithuanian +25% SW_English @ 2,574292
10 50% Lithuanian +25% Kosovar +25% SW_English @ 2,579283
11 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Lithuanian +25% Orcadian @ 2,580784
12 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart @ 2,580803
13 50% Polish +25% Kosovar +25% Lithuanian @ 2,595527
14 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Lithuanian +25% Norwegian @ 2,599441
15 50% Polish +25% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,606889
16 50% Polish +25% Serbian_Bosnia +25% SW_English @ 2,618452
17 50% Lithuanian +25% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,623609
18 50% SE_English +25% Polish +25% SE_English @ 2,623945
19 50% SE_English +25% Lithuanian +25% Macedonian @ 2,625494
20 50% Lithuanian +25% Kosovar +25% Orcadian @ 2,627655
1685908 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Lithuanian+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosni a @ 2,51225
2 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+SE_English @ 2,521497
3 Lithuanian+SE_English+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,524715
4 Lithuanian+Polish+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,541136
5 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,551583
6 Polish+SE_English+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,557153
7 Polish+Polish+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,564688
8 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Macedonian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,569559
9 Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia+SW_Englis h @ 2,574292
10 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+SW_English @ 2,579283
11 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Polish+SE_English @ 2,58064
12 Lithuanian+Orcadian+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,580784
13 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Stuttgart @ 2,580803
14 Lithuanian+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia+SW_English @ 2,583449
15 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Polish+Polish @ 2,595527
16 Croatian+Lithuanian+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,596497
17 Lithuanian+Norwegian+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,599441
18 Lithuanian+Macedonian+Polish+SE_English @ 2,605702
19 Polish+Polish+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,606889
20 Orcadian+Polish+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,616604
21 Polish+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia+SW_English @ 2,617762
22 Polish+Polish+Serbian_Bosnia+SW_English @ 2,618452
23 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Neolithic_Hungary @ 2,623609
24 Polish+SE_English+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,623945
25 Lithuanian+Macedonian+SE_English+SE_English @ 2,625494
26 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Orcadian @ 2,627655
27 Norwegian+Polish+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,627984
28 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+North_Italian+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,628858
29 Lithuanian+Orcadian+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,629826
30 Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia+Swedish @ 2,630254
31 Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia+West_Scot tish @ 2,636871
32 Croatian+Kosovar+Lithuanian+Lithuanian @ 2,637179
33 Lithuanian+SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia+Utah_USA @ 2,637415
34 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Utah_USA @ 2,638286
35 Lithuanian+Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosni a @ 2,63885
36 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Polish+SW_English @ 2,63934
37 Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia+SW_English+SW_English @ 2,639428
38 Kosovar+Lithuanian+Orcadian+Polish @ 2,640846
39 Lithuanian+Serbian_Bosnia+Serbian_Bosnia+Utah_USA @ 2,642562
40 Croatian+Lithuanian+Polish+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,643241
14220447 iterations.

[Sockorer]

Thank you! ^

[Hevo]

Here are the average results of the Dutch people.(I received them from Davidski)

South of the Rhine

ANE 0.1325
South_Eurasian 0.0038
Near_Eastern 0.4305
East_Eurasian 0.0054
WHG 0.426
Oceanian 0
Pygmy 0.0018
Sub-Saharan 0


North of the Rhine

ANE 0.1496
South_Eurasian 0.0044
Near_Eastern 0.378
East_Eurasian 0
WHG 0.468
Oceanian 0
Pygmy 0
Sub-Saharan 0

http://www.eurorivercruises.com/images/rhine_map.jpg

The significant differences show that the Rhine river is a genetical barrier between Northern&Southern Dutch and that's not suprising.

[Not a Cop]

Here are the average results of the Dutch people.(I received them from Davidski)



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Is he going to post German results?

[Jackson]

Here are the average results of the Dutch people.(I received them from Davidski)

South of the Rhine

ANE 0.1325
South_Eurasian 0.0038
Near_Eastern 0.4305
East_Eurasian 0.0054
WHG 0.426
Oceanian 0
Pygmy 0.0018
Sub-Saharan 0


North of the Rhine

ANE 0.1496
South_Eurasian 0.0044
Near_Eastern 0.378
East_Eurasian 0
WHG 0.468
Oceanian 0
Pygmy 0
Sub-Saharan 0

http://www.eurorivercruises.com/images/rhine_map.jpg

The significant differences show that the Rhine river is a genetical barrier between Northern&Southern Dutch and that's not suprising.

Interesting stuff, would be good to eventually see what it's like further south as well, see if the barrier remains.

Kinda looks like south of the Rhine is an extension of France and Belgium (or an interaction zone between western and northern Europe) and north of the Rhine an extension of the north European plain.

Judging by the fact that on other calcs West German results are similar to southern Dutch results, i'd guess this continues somewhat further south at least.

[Hevo]

Is he going to post German results?

Not any time soon, i asked for the Dutch averages but not the Germans and that took a few weeks because he is busy i guess.:P

Jackson,

It's a shame there is a lack of Flemish samples.:/ I wonder what has cause the barrier. Any ideas? It could be the Eighty years war. I read some stuff that there were some repopulations in North-Brabant.

[Jackson]

Not any time soon, i asked for the Dutch averages but not the Germans and that took a few weeks because he is busy i guess.:P

Jackson,

It's a shame there is a lack of Flemish samples.:/ I wonder what has cause the barrier. Any ideas? It could be the Eighty years war. I read some stuff that there were some repopulations in North-Brabant.

Could be, Flemish samples would be great. Having seen Belgian Walloon results, they seem to be close to N French where as these south Dutch are between N French and N Dutch, so i guess Flemish should be either similar to S Dutch but more towards the French?

Need more aDNA too. :P

[Graham]

North Netherlands clusters with Norway/Scotland on average & the South Netherlands with (north)France & I'd imagine whole bunch in between individually.

Edit: I f I run the map again, might just use SW England, WScot. But Not SE England. Like Orkney is a more mixed group. Could just put in an average like Netherlands.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zpsjfsxgacq.png

[Jackson]

It's interesting that Germanic and Romance speakers are so close genetically. NW Europe is complex it seems when it comes to language, if ancient Celts are so close to modern Germanics, and some modern Germanics and Romance speakers so close to each other, points towards a fluidity of language, or perhaps just that where language is associated with ethnicity it is less visible because the two groups are similar already. Perhaps those French that cluster with the NW European blob just retain more Iron Age influence? I doubt the Celts just across the channel should have been too much different genetically from those in Britain, given that by that date there was considerable trade/interaction between southern Britain and northern Gaulish areas. Although the Celts are from south-eastern Britain rather than the south coast, there doesn't seem to be much leeway if we're going to assume that some post-Iron Age events also affected the northern French as well, unless some were quite Frankish influenced and got pulled 'north' again?

Would it be possible to stick the Hinxtons on there? Can't remember if they had their K8 done or not...

[Graham]

Would it be possible to stick the Hinxtons on there? Can't remember if they had their K8 done or not...

Could give it a whirl later. If you want. Asked Polako a while back for it. But he said it was not 100% good quality for this test.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c_0QqzmqS8M5qGPYx3Q8q64r0LVrmwU1RLO9uRYsfqk/edit#gid=1199641803

I know Hinx4 sits up in Norway. Though it could be misleading to some. It might just mean that this individual had more Hunter gatherer than later viking. To confuse some. lol :P

[Graham]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zpsa05uyys5.png

[Jackson]

Could give it a whirl later. If you want. Asked Polako a while back for it. But he said it was not 100% good quality for this test.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1c_0QqzmqS8M5qGPYx3Q8q64r0LVrmwU1RLO9uRYsfqk/edit#gid=1199641803

I know Hinx4 sits up in Norway. Though it could be misleading to some. It might just mean that this individual had more Hunter gatherer than later viking. To confuse some. lol :P

Norwegian Celts! :D

[Jackson]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zpsa05uyys5.png

Interesting cheers, yeah i remember now Hinxton 5 has something like 12% ANE which is really odd, reasons of low coverage i guess.

Well Hinxton 1 is a Celt and 3 an Anglo-Saxon and they both look like normal results for a modern British person, Hinxton 2 as well i suppose although they would be on the edge of the cluster. Only really 4 and 5 that are off in this one, which is interesting as 4 was the best in terms of total SNPs if i remember correctly?

[Graham]

It kind of half make sense if you look at how the Scots(Argyll) and O'Malley(Galway) are more WHG than the English.

It's difficult to plant an ancient sample to a modern one., if you know what I mean. The Norway thing is misleading. You have to take into account of drifts for example when one O'Neil has a shit load of descendants, things can change but not from a foreign invasion.

Hinx4 though is very Northern. :)

I'll do a Hinx 1-4 & Hinx 2,3,5 average. Might look better.

[Graham]

West Norwegians are a little mixed to take note. Have ancestry from Scotland & Ireland like Iceland.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zpssptspzef.png

[Jackson]

West Norwegians are a little mixed to take note. Have ancestry from Scotland & Ireland like Iceland.

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/map_zpssptspzef.png

That's pretty good, makes sense logically - that they should be there. After all it's basically showing that they are members of the populations that form the base of the modern British cluster, only that there has been more interaction with the continent since then, which is historically established. Would be interesting to have some results from northern Britain in the Iron Age, and Ireland.

[jtoml3]

Oracle results thanks to Hevo. The 1 population on the Gaussian method is the most accurate single population result I've had on a calculator (mostly English and Croatian ancestry). Any thoughts would be good :)

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hungarian @ 2,768597
2 Utah_USA @ 3,511664
3 French @ 3,644148
4 SW_English @ 3,919377
5 Croatian @ 3,952296
6 SE_English @ 4,079448
7 LBA_Hungary @ 4,293537
8 Utah_German @ 4,304841
9 Serbian_Bosnia @ 4,779162
10 Moldavian @ 5,075644
11 Orcadian @ 5,858203
12 West_Scottish @ 6,079971
13 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 6,160313
14 Bosnian @ 6,264617
15 Spanish_Pais_Vasco @ 7,935594
16 Ukrainian_Poltava @ 8,00413
17 Utah_Scandinavian @ 8,534713
18 Norwegian @ 8,557378
19 Basque_French @ 8,772343
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 8,867033
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 LBA_Hungary+Moldavian @ 0,942384
2 Spanish_Cantabria+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,124028
3 French+Utah_USA @ 1,215202
4 French+Utah_German @ 1,218712
5 French+SW_English @ 1,270168
6 French+SE_English @ 1,270177
7 Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 1,270649
8 Spanish_Cataluna+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,292053
9 Russian_Kursk+Spanish_Aragon @ 1,305662
10 Russian_Kursk+Spanish_Valencia @ 1,32801
11 Russian_Voronez+Spanish_Valencia @ 1,329112
12 Spanish_Valencia+Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1,35302
13 Russian_Orel+Spanish_Valencia @ 1,424517
14 Serbian_Bosnia+SW_English @ 1,43519
15 Spanish_Cantabria+Ukrainian_Poltava @ 1,449484
16 SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,454276
17 Russian_Voronez+Spanish_Aragon @ 1,472156
18 Hungarian+LBA_Hungary @ 1,482714
19 Russian_Orel+Spanish_Aragon @ 1,488038
20 Spanish_Cantabria+Ukrainian_Kharkov @ 1,495897
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Greek +25% Croatian +25% Motala12 @ 0,768283
2 50% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Moldavian +25% Motala12 @ 0,800439
3 50% Bulgarian +25% Italian_Abruzzo +25% Motala12 @ 0,812716
4 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% Bulgarian +25% Motala12 @ 0,835784
5 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% Motala12 +25% Romanian @ 0,84737
6 50% Central_Greek +25% Motala12 +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,858128
7 50% Greek +25% Bosnian +25% Motala12 @ 0,895788
8 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% Macedonian +25% Motala12 @ 0,902399
9 50% Serbian_Bosnia +25% Cyprian +25% Motala12 @ 0,910142
10 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Moldavian +25% Moldavian @ 0,942384
11 50% Bosnian +25% Cyprian +25% Motala12 @ 0,950209
12 50% Central_Greek +25% Hungarian +25% Motala12 @ 0,955193
13 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Hungarian +25% Moldavian @ 0,955255
14 50% Bulgarian +25% Motala12 +25% West_Sicilian @ 0,961511
15 50% South_Italian +25% Motala12 +25% Polish_Estonian @ 0,972251
16 50% SE_English +25% Moldavian +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 0,972947
17 50% SW_English +25% Moldavian +25% Spanish_Cantabria @ 0,97367
18 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Bosnian +25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,976567
19 50% LBA_Hungary +25% Russian_Kursk +25% Serbian @ 0,986009
20 50% SE_English +25% Moldavian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 0,999004
1177473 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Bosnian+Georgian_Imer+Gokhem2+Motala12 @ 0,65508
2 Abkhasian+Gokhem2+Montenegrin+Motala12 @ 0,698655
3 Chechen+Gokhem2+Motala12+Tuscan @ 0,738743
4 Croatian+Georgian_Jewish+Motala12+Spanish_Pais_Vas co @ 0,763482
5 Bosnian+Greek_Thessaly+Italian_Abruzzo+Motala12 @ 0,764083
6 Central_Greek+Motala12+South_Italian+Ukrainian_Lvi v @ 0,76773
7 Central_Greek+Central_Greek+Croatian+Motala12 @ 0,768283
8 Basque_French+Croatian+Georgian_Jewish+Motala12 @ 0,768883
9 Georgian_Laz+LBA_Hungary+Motala12+Spanish_Valencia @ 0,792218
10 Italian_Abruzzo+Italian_Abruzzo+Moldavian+Motala12 @ 0,800439
11 Abkhasian+Gokhem2+Motala12+Serbian @ 0,801094
12 Greek+Motala12+South_Italian+Ukrainian_Lviv @ 0,801543
13 Bosnian+Cyprian+Motala12+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,801551
14 Georgian_Jewish+Motala12+Spanish_Aragon+SW_English @ 0,805067
15 Georgian_Jewish+Motala12+SE_English+Spanish_Aragon @ 0,808104
16 Bulgarian+Cyprian+Motala12+SE_English @ 0,808874
17 Bulgarian+Cyprian+Motala12+SW_English @ 0,81249
18 Bulgarian+Bulgarian+Italian_Abruzzo+Motala12 @ 0,812716
19 Georgian_Jewish+Motala12+Spanish_Aragon+Utah_USA @ 0,813053
20 Iraqi_Jewish+Motala12+Norwegian+Spanish_Aragon @ 0,815527
21 Italian_Abruzzo+Motala12+South_Italian+Ukrainian_B elgorod @ 0,819115
22 Bulgarian+Cyprian+Motala12+Utah_USA @ 0,819274
23 Greek_Thessaly+Moldavian+Motala12+South_Italian @ 0,821465
24 Georgian_Laz+LBA_Hungary+Motala12+Spanish_Aragon @ 0,823802
25 Central_Greek+Greek_Thessaly+Motala12+Serbian @ 0,827424
26 Bulgarian+Motala12+Serbian+South_Italian @ 0,827746
27 Iraqi_Jewish+Motala12+Spanish_Aragon+Utah_Scandina vian @ 0,829563
28 Armenian+Basque_French+Motala12+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,831018
29 Bulgarian+Cyprian+Motala12+Utah_German @ 0,83498
30 Bulgarian+Greek_Thessaly+Greek_Thessaly+Motala12 @ 0,835784
31 Cyprian+Kosovar+Motala12+Utah_Scandinavian @ 0,837741
32 Georgian_Laz+LBA_Hungary+Motala12+Spanish_Cantabri a @ 0,837911
33 Cyprian+Kosovar+Motala12+Norwegian @ 0,842436
34 Armenian+Basque_French+Croatian+Motala12 @ 0,843239
35 Central_Greek+Croatian+Greek+Motala12 @ 0,843723
36 Georgian_Imer+Gokhem2+Motala12+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,844613
37 Greek_Thessaly+Greek_Thessaly+Motala12+Romanian @ 0,84737
38 Georgian_Jewish+Motala12+Spanish_Valencia+SW_Engli sh @ 0,855094
39 Greek+Moldavian+Motala12+West_Sicilian @ 0,856921
40 Central_Greek+Central_Greek+Motala12+Serbian_Bosni a @ 0,858128
4997094 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116

Using 1 population approximation:
1 SE_English @ 2,33843
2 SW_English @ 2,576987
3 Croatian @ 2,718711
4 LBA_Hungary @ 2,86691
5 Utah_USA @ 2,966442
6 French @ 3,051461
7 Serbian_Bosnia @ 3,092747
8 Utah_German @ 3,440283
9 Orcadian @ 3,627684
10 Hungarian @ 3,774566
11 Bosnian @ 3,817539
12 West_Scottish @ 4,051882
13 Norwegian @ 4,114696
14 Serbian @ 4,220627
15 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4,236294
16 Utah_Scandinavian @ 4,29743
17 Montenegrin @ 4,65482
18 Swedish @ 4,677996
19 Moldavian @ 4,777823
20 Polish @ 4,954452
163 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 LBA_Hungary+SE_English @ 1,949942
2 Croatian+LBA_Hungary @ 2,019148
3 Lithuanian+North_Italian @ 2,080928
4 Croatian+SE_English @ 2,122786
5 LBA_Hungary+SW_English @ 2,130077
6 LBA_Hungary+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,17623
7 SE_English+Serbian_Bosnia @ 2,24374
8 Croatian+SW_English @ 2,27971
9 LBA_Hungary+Utah_USA @ 2,334852
10 SE_English+SE_English @ 2,33843
11 French+SE_English @ 2,357227
12 Serbian_Bosnia+SW_English @ 2,397357
13 SE_English+SW_English @ 2,46403
14 French+SW_English @ 2,497002
15 LBA_Hungary+Orcadian @ 2,543781
16 Croatian+Utah_USA @ 2,57143
17 SW_English+SW_English @ 2,576987
18 Bosnian+LBA_Hungary @ 2,585122
19 SE_English+Serbian @ 2,595927
20 Kosovar+Lithuanian @ 2,603642
13366 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kosovar +25% Kosovar +25% Motala12 @ 0,579259
2 50% Kosovar +25% Motala12 +25% North_Italian @ 0,659704
3 50% Kosovar +25% Macedonian +25% Motala12 @ 0,973376
4 50% Macedonian +25% Motala12 +25% Stuttgart @ 1,352502
5 50% Macedonian +25% Motala12 +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 1,417579
6 50% Kosovar +25% Greek_Thessaly +25% Motala12 @ 1,42975
7 50% North_Italian +25% Kosovar +25% Motala12 @ 1,50165
8 50% Kosovar +25% Greek +25% Motala12 @ 1,511919
9 50% SE_English +25% Croatian +25% Gokhem2 @ 1,5173
10 50% SE_English +25% Lithuanian +25% Neolithic_Hungary @ 1,51987
11 50% Kosovar +25% Motala12 +25% Tuscan @ 1,520353
12 50% Kosovar +25% Montenegrin +25% Motala12 @ 1,546327
13 50% Lithuanian +25% LBA_Hungary +25% Stuttgart @ 1,567382
14 50% Lithuanian +25% SE_English +25% Stuttgart @ 1,597311
15 50% SE_English +25% Gokhem2 +25% Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,60905
16 50% Macedonian +25% Greek +25% Motala12 @ 1,612677
17 50% Kosovar +25% Central_Greek +25% Motala12 @ 1,614526
18 50% Lithuanian +25% Central_Greek +25% Gokhem2 @ 1,631884
19 50% Lithuanian +25% Gokhem2 +25% Greek @ 1,64206
20 50% SE_English +25% Lithuanian +25% Stuttgart @ 1,657208
1695193 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Kosovar+Kosovar+Kosovar+Motala12 @ 0,579259
2 Kosovar+Kosovar+Motala12+North_Italian @ 0,659704
3 Croatian+Georgian_Laz+Gokhem2+Motala12 @ 0,669947
4 Georgian_Laz+Gokhem2+Motala12+Serbian_Bosnia @ 0,673406
5 Georgian_Laz+Gokhem2+Macedonian+Motala12 @ 0,805241
6 Georgian_Laz+Gokhem2+Motala12+SE_English @ 0,813359
7 Kosovar+Kosovar+Macedonian+Motala12 @ 0,973376
8 Georgian_Laz+Lithuanian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary @ 0,976556
9 Georgian_Imer+Gokhem2+Motala12+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,185483
10 Croatian+Kosovar+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 1,189204
11 Gokhem2+Kosovar+Lithuanian+SE_English @ 1,19206
12 Georgian_Laz+Gokhem2+Montenegrin+Motala12 @ 1,198041
13 Croatian+Georgian_Imer+Gokhem2+Motala12 @ 1,241263
14 Georgian_Laz+Gokhem2+Motala12+SW_English @ 1,292946
15 Georgian_Laz+Lithuanian+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 1,331391
16 Macedonian+Macedonian+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 1,352502
17 Kosovar+Motala12+Serbian_Bosnia+Stuttgart @ 1,354169
18 Georgian_Imer+Gokhem2+Macedonian+Motala12 @ 1,354337
19 Greek+Kosovar+Macedonian+Motala12 @ 1,354926
20 Kosovar+Macedonian+Motala12+North_Italian @ 1,371332
21 Georgian_Imer+Gokhem2+LBA_Hungary+Motala12 @ 1,371859
22 Georgian_Imer+Gokhem2+Motala12+SE_English @ 1,388199
23 Croatian+Kosovar+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary @ 1,392949
24 Macedonian+Macedonian+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary @ 1,417579
25 Gokhem2+Lithuanian+Macedonian+SE_English @ 1,424557
26 Greek_Thessaly+Kosovar+Kosovar+Motala12 @ 1,42975
27 Central_Greek+Macedonian+Motala12+North_Italian @ 1,432617
28 Greek_Thessaly+Kosovar+Motala12+North_Italian @ 1,437948
29 Croatian+Macedonian+Motala12+Stuttgart @ 1,443456
30 Georgian_Laz+Gokhem2+LBA_Hungary+Motala12 @ 1,444758
31 Croatian+Gokhem2+Lithuanian+Macedonian @ 1,455457
32 Gokhem2+Kosovar+Lithuanian+SW_English @ 1,455686
33 Gokhem2+Lezgin+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary @ 1,459047
34 Georgian_Imer+Gokhem2+Motala12+North_Italian @ 1,460869
35 Greek+Macedonian+Motala12+North_Italian @ 1,463699
36 Central_Greek+Kosovar+Macedonian+Motala12 @ 1,472
37 Macedonian+Motala12+Serbian_Bosnia+Stuttgart @ 1,473667
38 Central_Greek+Kosovar+Motala12+North_Italian @ 1,477575
39 Kosovar+Motala12+Neolithic_Hungary+Serbian_Bosnia @ 1,484167
40 Georgian_Imer+Gokhem2+Montenegrin+Motala12 @ 1,488657
14518863 iterations.

[Graham]

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=54922&d=1423416754

[curupira]

I just had a look at the table with the k8 results and I found it interesting to learn that the highest ANE scores are coming from the Karitiana, Native Americans from Brazil:

Karitiana HGDP01003 41,7876
Karitiana HGDP01006 43,4494
Karitiana HGDP01013 41,9844
Karitiana HGDP01014 43,4063

[Longbowman]

I just had a look at the table with the k8 results and I found it interesting to learn that the highest ANE scores are coming from the Karitiana, Native Americans from Brazil:

Karitiana HGDP01003 41,7876
Karitiana HGDP01006 43,4494
Karitiana HGDP01013 41,9844
Karitiana HGDP01014 43,4063

Go nuts.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JVGdg2UsN3jYWgaoxAZu-QsAmuCaq3kT7FvqSXwUsAA/pubhtml

Threads:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?154160-Selected-population-averages-for-K8
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?155723-K8-All-Populations-Spreadsheet

[Jana]

How do we Know K8 is more reliable than K7? New samples included may be, but WHG/ENF percentages changed drastically. I'll wait until it's available on GEDmatch :D

[Not a Cop]

How do we Know K8 is more reliable than K7? New samples included may be, but WHG/ENF percentages changed drastically. I'll wait until it's available on GEDmatch :D

Well both of this calcs come from the same author, who claimed K8 to be more reliable in first place, secondly you may have noticed that K7 named ANE K7 which points to the fact that's it's only more or les reliable for ANE component, which changed the least in both calculators, and last argument is that NE euros were getting unrealisticly low ENF scores in K7 - im 0-10% range.

[Jackson]

Also, apparently K8 couldn't be 'ported' onto GEDmatch without sacrificing some accuracy/utility, at least according to David. So the one you'd get on GEDmatch wouldn't necessarily be as good.

[Musso]

Do you still have to pay for K8 and to get positioned on the triangle?

[Longbowman]

Do you still have to pay for K8 and to get positioned on the triangle?

Yes.

[Musso]

Yes.

How many days does it take once you send the files?

[Longbowman]

How many days does it take once you send the files?

Depends when you send them. For me, less than one.

[Musso]

Depends when you send them. For me, less than one.

I'm debating though if it's worth paying 20 bucks for a similar result that you can get on GEDmatch.

[Longbowman]

I'm debating though if it's worth paying 20 bucks for a similar result that you can get on GEDmatch.

It's not similar.