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Anglojew
01-05-2015, 01:20 PM
A recent thread (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?154503-Al-Jazeera-‘Voice-of-Qatar’-nags-Europe-and-Canada-about-taking-Syrian-refugees) about Al Jazeera's criticism of the West not taking more Syrian refugees begs the question of why the Gulf States (The Qatari royal family owns Al Jazeera) have done nothing to resettle Syrian refugees in their countries.

Amnesty International said (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/05/us-syria-refugees-idUSKCN0JJ14920141205) last month;


Wealthy Gulf states have failed to resettle a single refugee from the Syrian conflict - a "particularly shameful" omission by countries that should be at the forefront of those offering shelter

Furthermore (http://carnegieendowment.org/syriaincrisis/?fa=57499);


The Gulf Arab states are some of the primary funders of the armed rebellion in Syria, but in four (now five) years not one of these six ultra-wealthy Arab states has agreed to resettle even one single refugee.

Why Don't The "Gulf States" Take Syrian Refugees?

Is it a long-term plot to flood the West with Muslim refugees and bankrupt the West with wars, foreign aid and welfare?

Tooting Carmen
01-05-2015, 01:22 PM
And likewise Iraqi refugees. Very good question indeed.

Tooting Carmen
01-05-2015, 01:25 PM
It is, furthermore, deeply absurd how Syrians have got so desperate that lots of them have even fled into Iraq, yet the much more peaceful and wealthy Gulf Arab countries won't take them in at all.

Anglojew
01-05-2015, 01:28 PM
And likewise Iraqi refugees. Very good question indeed.

They figure they can't colonise the West with violence but they can with immigrants, refugees and resulting demographic growth.

Jana
01-05-2015, 01:44 PM
They should. Those refugees would be less foreign in there and would have better chance for new life in culturaly similar environment. They are rich anyway, and should help fellow muslims.

Profileid
05-10-2015, 04:22 PM
Jordan and Lebanon, neither country having any oil or much in terms of natural resources whatsoever have taken in over a million refugees, yet the gulf states are our "allies" and they pull this shit.Prolonging the war in Syria by supporting the "moderate rebels" and not even having the decency to deal with the consequences.The more you learn, the more you dislike them.

OnceLord
05-10-2015, 04:34 PM
Simple-- they are smart. They know what sort of problems a massive immigrant refugee population will bring. Even if it's their 'own kind'.

Since the Anglosphere and the rest of the West has already set precedence for being so lovey-dovey and smothering with the humanitarianism.. Makes sense to shirk the responsibility onto us.

Even more pathetic/funny/ironic is these govts (or at least elements in the countries) have been supporting ISIL types (such as Al Nusra) to play a stupid 'power play' in the region the same way Pakiland's ISI did with the Taliban.

We just keep paying the price, eh?

Prisoner Of Ice
05-12-2015, 12:38 AM
Because they want to destroy the west by colonizing it.

Prisoner Of Ice
05-12-2015, 12:39 AM
lol at randomguy. He is exactly the kind we should paradrop into saudi arabia.

TheGoldenSon
05-18-2015, 02:38 PM
They should. Those refugees would be less foreign in there and would have better chance for new life in culturaly similar environment. They are rich anyway, and should help fellow muslims.

Gulf Arab are the most xenophobic people out there (beside East Asians, Jews, and Albanians), most comparable are the Ancients of Greece. Encouraging others to "follow the path of virtue", while being the most opportunistic, manipulative and cold calculating people in the region, much like their Jewish cousins to the West. I guess that is the natural state of the Semites.

Anglojew
05-19-2015, 12:59 AM
Gulf Arab are the most xenophobic people out there (beside East Asians, Jews, and Albanians), most comparable are the Ancients of Greece. Encouraging others to "follow the path of virtue", while being the most opportunistic, manipulative and cold calculating people in the region, much like their Jewish cousins to the West. I guess that is the natural state of the Semites.

Jew's are particularly xenophobic. Most US Jews marry non-Jews for example.

RandomlyRenounced
05-19-2015, 01:07 AM
Jews *aren't particularly xenophobic. Most US Jews marry non-Jews for example.

Most American Jews either think that they are just Euro-Americans or are not in tune with their heritage/culture, so of course they mix (Being 2% of the population doesn't help them either). Jews in Israel have a healthy sense of Nationalism that I greatly wish that Europe would gain. Well, aside from committing genocide against the Palestinians, perhaps.

StonyArabia
05-19-2015, 01:34 AM
And likewise Iraqi refugees. Very good question indeed.

There are a lot of Iraqi refugees in Saudi Arabia, this again shows people lack knowledge about the region. There are many Syrian refugees in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and UAE. In fact there was even Shia Iraqi refugees who were welcomed in Saudi Arabia, however the U.N took most them to the Western world, the main reason they were of Arabian stock like the people there.

Anglojew
05-19-2015, 02:52 AM
Most American Jews either think that they are just Euro-Americans or are not in tune with their heritage/culture, so of course they mix (Being 2% of the population doesn't help them either). Jews in Israel have a healthy sense of Nationalism that I greatly wish that Europe would gain. Well, aside from committing genocide against the Palestinians, perhaps.

Genocide, oh please.

TheGoldenSon
05-19-2015, 01:17 PM
Jew's are particularly xenophobic. Most US Jews marry non-Jews for example.

Liberals and outsiders have always existed. The thing is that the non-Jewish side in those arrangements tends to be assimilated or "emotionally blackmailed" into accepting the Jewish cultural/religious elements.

TheGoldenSon
05-19-2015, 01:41 PM
Genocide, oh please.

Forceful deportations, landgrabs, illegal settlements and mass expulsion don't count as one?

Grenzland
05-19-2015, 01:54 PM
Because they are the reason why Syrians leave their home...

Also they are egoistic and hated.

Anglojew
05-20-2015, 01:55 AM
Forceful deportations, landgrabs, illegal settlements and mass expulsion don't count as one?

By this definition then Muslims committed genocide against Middle-Eastern Jews when they confiscated their land and property and expelled 1 million of them.

Profileid
05-20-2015, 03:06 AM
There are a lot of Iraqi refugees in Saudi Arabia, this again shows people lack knowledge about the region. There are many Syrian refugees in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and UAE. In fact there was even Shia Iraqi refugees who were welcomed in Saudi Arabia, however the U.N took most them to the Western world, the main reason they were of Arabian stock like the people there.

No they weren't.You shit on the history of the Middle East by saying they were no different than the Saudis.

Profileid
05-20-2015, 03:07 AM
Jew's are particularly xenophobic. Most US Jews marry non-Jews for example.

Because they are self hating.

Anglojew
05-20-2015, 03:23 AM
Because they are self hating.

Or maybe just fall in love with non-Jews?

Profileid
05-20-2015, 03:32 AM
Or maybe just fall in love with non-Jews?

Yes but the first option is much more unflattering, so imma go with that.

Anglojew
05-20-2015, 03:37 AM
Yes but the first option is much more unflattering, so imma go with that.

Think what you wish.

Profileid
05-20-2015, 03:38 AM
Think what you wish.

I will.Because having a sense of humor is a good thing. You should be able to laugh at the stereotypes of your people,as should anyone else.

Anglojew
05-20-2015, 03:43 AM
I will.Because having a sense of humor is a good thing. You should be able to laugh at the stereotypes of your people,as should anyone else.

Sure. I agree.

StonyArabia
05-20-2015, 04:07 AM
No they weren't.You shit on the history of the Middle East by saying they were no different than the Saudis.

Iraqis especially from the South largely descent from the Bedouin tribes, and many of them came from Nejid. There is Persian ancestry in the shrine cities, but in the South they are mostly more or less of Arabian Bedouin descent, the conversion to Shiaism was quite recent and it was due to the political and religious climate, and also the influence of the Lebo-Persian clergy, which took refuge in Iraq, during the Afghan invasion. Also the influence of Qajar Iran on Iraq as well. Well the nomadic Bedouin tribes that became concentrated in the West are Sunni to this day, and never converted to Shiaism nor have Shia sympathies, this is the same is true of the nomadic Bedouin tribes in the South. The Al-Muntafaq tribe is one of the largest Shia tribes, they are of Bedouin stock who became settled and converted under the Lebo-Persian clergy. Northern Iraqis are different are largely descendants of the locals, and only converted to Islam in the 11th century, they would become majority Muslim mostly due to Timur the lame, and later as political alliances with the various ruling Muslim groups like the Ottomans.

Profileid
05-20-2015, 04:20 AM
Iraqis especially from the South largely descent from the Bedouin tribes, and many of them came from Nejid. There is Persian ancestry in the shrine cities, but in the South they are mostly more or less of Arabian Bedouin descent, the conversion to Shiaism was quite recent and it was due to the political and religious climate, and also the influence of the Lebo-Persian clergy, which took refuge in Iraq, during the Afghan invasion. Also the influence of Qajar Iran on Iraq as well. Well the nomadic Bedouin tribes that became concentrated in the West are Sunni to this day, and never converted to Shiaism nor have Shia sympathies, this is the same is true of the nomadic Bedouin tribes in the South. The Al-Muntafaq tribe is one of the largest Shia tribes, they are of Bedouin stock who became settled and converted under the Lebo-Persian clergy. Northern Iraqis are different are largely descendants of the locals, and only converted to Islam in the 11th century, they would become majority Muslim mostly due to Timur the lame, and later as political alliances with the various ruling Muslim groups like the Ottomans.

You still insist the Assyrians and the others simply stopped existing?

TheGoldenSon
05-20-2015, 08:04 AM
By this definition then Muslims committed genocide against Middle-Eastern Jews when they confiscated their land and property and expelled 1 million of them.

Every action had a reaction buddy and the number is no where near 1 million.

Anglojew
05-20-2015, 11:51 AM
Every action had a reaction buddy and the number is no where near 1 million.

http://jcpa.org/article/the-expulsion-of-the-jews-from-muslim-countries-1920-1970-a-history-of-ongoing-cruelty-and-discrimination/

StonyArabia
05-20-2015, 08:58 PM
You still insist the Assyrians and the others simply stopped existing?

The Mesopotamian were concentrated in the North. The Arabized locals were exterminated by the Mongols and the Timurids. Thus by the 15th century it was Bedouin tribes coming from Arabia that would replenish the population in Western and Southern Mesopotamia. The most famous Bedouin tribes such as the Shammar and Rawallah migrated, and took their feuds to the region, well the Al-Muntafaq appeared to be the most powerful tribe and also the largest. Several other tribes would also come and settle in Iraq, and thing from their change. At this time the Shia Persian clergy themselves of Lebanese origin, would try to recruit the Bedouin tribes into the fold of Shiaism, and such movement was quite conductive in the shrine cities, in which Shiaism reigned supreme since the Islamic era. Well those in the West have always rejected Shiaism and Persian influence, and are quite hostile to them, due to the Persian Safavid invasion of the 15th century, and later the Afshars and hence they kept a grudge ever since.

Profileid
05-20-2015, 09:56 PM
The Mesopotamian were concentrated in the North. The Arabized locals were exterminated by the Mongols and the Timurids. Thus by the 15th century it was Bedouin tribes coming from Arabia that would replenish the population in Western and Southern Mesopotamia. The most famous Bedouin tribes such as the Shammar and Rawallah migrated, and took their feuds to the region, well the Al-Muntafaq appeared to be the most powerful tribe and also the largest. Several other tribes would also come and settle in Iraq, and thing from their change. At this time the Shia Persian clergy themselves of Lebanese origin, would try to recruit the Bedouin tribes into the fold of Shiaism, and such movement was quite conductive in the shrine cities, in which Shiaism reigned supreme since the Islamic era. Well those in the West have always rejected Shiaism and Persian influence, and are quite hostile to them, due to the Persian Safavid invasion of the 15th century, and later the Afshars and hence they kept a grudge ever since.

There is no real evidence suggesting the Mongols were able to completely wipe out the ancient inhabitants.Even the Saxons were not able to do that to the Celts.

StonyArabia
05-20-2015, 09:57 PM
There is no real evidence suggesting the Mongols were able to completely wipe out the ancient inhabitants.Even the Saxons were not able to do that to the Celts.

There is genetics show this, this has also been confirmed by dental patterns.