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Queen B
07-10-2014, 07:33 AM
http://www.living-postcards.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/art_inside/971835_10200521382090299_1804508421_n.jpg
http://www.peoplegreece.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/23/ismini-dafopoulou4.jpg
http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd389/nts777/10441903_10203039891491460_8910426460344596284_n_z psce07f0f3.jpg
http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/10358214_605006792930329_1923202840_n.jpg
http://gzt-cdn2.wefiles.net/sites/default/files/ismini-dafopoulou1.jpg
http://first-magazine.gr/wp-content/uploads/ismini-dafopoulou.jpg
http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xfp1/t51.2885-15/10299852_1422512784675877_1859748297_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10537114_503143363152722_5851412208628983903_n.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1-KC0Bfi4N0/U7md9vAjjtI/AAAAAAAACt8/Yjcu3MZqE74/s1600/IMG_3557-1.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/10517240_10203196811494146_3970672147135471480_o.j pg
http://missuniversusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Ismini-Dafopoulou1.jpg
http://cdn.yupiii.gr/images/resized/icemax_926_af5975322d3e2b630a9fba2e81b11157.jpg

Mark
07-10-2014, 07:36 AM
Atlanto-Pontid + CM.

...and yes, she looks a bit like you. :D

NigelF
07-10-2014, 07:37 AM
Definitely a Slav!

Queen B
07-10-2014, 07:38 AM
Atlanto-Pontid + CM.
...and yes, she looks a bit like you. :D
Really? Thank you for the compliment! She is really pretty ! :thumb001::thumb001:

Ctwentysevenj
07-10-2014, 08:03 AM
Pontid. I think she might be Greek.

Queen B
07-10-2014, 08:11 AM
Pontid. I think she might be Greek.
She is obviously Greek :cool:

Ctwentysevenj
07-10-2014, 08:15 AM
She is obviously Greek :cool:

I only know because I saw the Greek text on the picture. She is a hottie though.

Salvatoree
07-10-2014, 08:27 AM
Damn beautiful lady

Davy Jones's Locker
07-11-2014, 05:36 PM
Pontid. I think she might be Greek.

Agree with Pontid.

Smeagol
07-11-2014, 05:41 PM
Pontid + Alpine.

Not a Cop
07-11-2014, 06:04 PM
Atlanto-Med

Sakis
01-13-2015, 07:26 PM
I didn't find a thread about her,i'm disappointed with you guys :)

http://www.tsantiri.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/ismini3.jpg

http://www.iefimerida.gr/sites/default/files/dafo8.jpg

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd389/nts777/10441903_10203039891491460_8910426460344596284_n_z psce07f0f3.jpg

http://www.newsbeast.gr/files/1/2014/09/01/nesxbxan8.jpg

http://www.tlife.gr/files/Image/NEWS/2014/IOULIOS/22-07/isminidafopoulou1.jpg

http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/13/98/70/52/afa-3410.jpg

http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/13/98/70/52/afa-4110.jpg

http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/13/98/70/52/afa-3110.jpg

Queen B
01-13-2015, 07:32 PM
Beat you to it !

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?132853-Classify-her

Tooting Carmen
01-13-2015, 07:32 PM
Pontid with an East Med element.

Sakis
01-13-2015, 09:58 PM
Bump

Sikeliot
01-13-2015, 10:18 PM
Atlanto-Med/Pontid intermediate. Some East Med influence also. Overall she fits in southern Italy, and at a stretch also in Spain. But she looks very Greek.

Highlands
01-13-2015, 10:27 PM
She looks like you Queen B. :)

Bloodsport
01-13-2015, 10:28 PM
Pontid. Very typical imo.

Arbėrori
01-13-2015, 10:44 PM
Pontid. She's very hot, did she win?

Sakis
01-13-2015, 11:23 PM
Pontid. She's very hot, did she win?

Yeap

Arbėrori
01-13-2015, 11:24 PM
Yeap

So are they sending her to Miss Universe or Miss World? Oh wait you're not gay. xD

Sakis
01-13-2015, 11:26 PM
So are they sending her to Miss Universe or Miss World? Oh wait you're not gay. xD

No freakin idea xD

Queen B
01-14-2015, 05:28 AM
So are they sending her to Miss Universe or Miss World? Oh wait you're not gay. xD
Miss Universe

Star Hellas (1st) -> Miss Universe
Miss Hellas (2nd) -> Miss World

Sakis
01-14-2015, 06:59 AM
bump

HellLander87
01-14-2015, 07:24 AM
some african influences are noticeable.

Faklon
01-14-2015, 05:58 PM
some african influences are noticeable.

Agreed,typical negressalian influence.

Η 25χρονη από την Καρδίτσα που διεκδικεί το στέμμα της Μις Υφήλιος (http://mad.tv/i-25chroni-apo-tin-karditsa-pou-diekdiki-to-stemma-tis-mis-ifilios/)

rolf

oh wait

-poulos?

Name is of course more typical for Larissa than anywhere else.

http://www.11888.gr/list-names?_wpType=name&_wpName=%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%86%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF %CF%85%CE%BB%CE%BF%CF%82&_pc=NjUuNTU4NDJARGFzT1RFLjguMzkuMEBkYXNmc3F1ZXJ5MS 5vdGUuZ3I%3D&_sd=1995381365&page=6

rolf

http://www.star.gr/publishingimages/2015/01/060115091505_5316.jpg

Anyway,I classify her as pretty chick(atypical for East Thessaly from Almyros to Olympus).

Hithaeglir
01-14-2015, 06:07 PM
Pontid-Alpine and CM.

Faklon
01-14-2015, 06:30 PM
Well, Thessalians are very dolichocephalic due to their nilotic influence so she could be a product of the macedonian-negro mongrelization that is somewhat typical for Thessaly.

If you speak about these modern neo-Thessallians they're mongrels of many things but I doubt of the Goridotaurid Macedonian man.

In Phthia where the only notable Thessalians ever lived,the Mokeydonian man can pass only as a sandal cleaner.

ps:

You look like a Jew in an old village album from Phocis I got across some days ago

Faklon
01-14-2015, 06:35 PM
Must have been a very indoeuropean jew, you basic white descendant of pellasgian slave castes.

Rolf,your theories are more corrupted than your phenotype&dna combined my neo-med friend.

Faklon
01-14-2015, 06:39 PM
I take my information from the people of metapedia, my friends and comrades. You take yours from communists and scientists working for Obama.

Whatever you say my neo-med friend.

Just don't project your zionist neo-Ares lobby.

Faklon
01-14-2015, 06:51 PM
Corded med glorious race came down from black sea and taught you how not to swing from trees, pathetic grimaldoid.

What do you know of Corded ware when you're pure lightish neo-med Pelasgian sandal cleaner?Tell me.

Anyway,no need to get anxious.Two videos that should enter history class to relax.

Achilles kills




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyfEAF8HwPQ


Achilles kills again


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRwac_noUEI

Dani Cutie
01-14-2015, 07:03 PM
Oh god,First view love :love0031:
I will choose Greece for erasmus :naughty2:

Faklon
01-14-2015, 07:11 PM
The only sandals I cleaned were mine after I watered them in your ancestors' blood and their womens' vaginal fluids, filthy potatohead.

The white man marches on.

You seem to have some strange obsession with potatoes and Anglo-Saxons.

Is this what the local basic white types are paying you for you services?

Your Goridotauroid women have already be transferred from Veroia to Casandrinos' Mahala to calm him down from some recent events.

If the "white" man has a problem with that he can tell me himself.

Achilles kills HEAVY METAL


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU22TX1oliE

Alphawolf
01-14-2015, 07:12 PM
She's very beautiful. I guess Atlanto Mediterranid/Atlanto Pontid.

Borna
01-14-2015, 07:15 PM
Uruk Orcs never came from Gundabad.

Arbėrori
01-14-2015, 07:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j3qkuUmlxI

Borna
01-14-2015, 07:19 PM
No, they came through the fucking Bosporus.

KILL BASIC WHITES. REMOVE UP INFLUENCE.

Basically you suffer from inferiority complex pointed against Elves. Like many people of this site, who don't realize that Elves are only Noble race.
Elves are basically so sophisticated that even their shit smells like rose. Filthy peasants.

Faklon
01-14-2015, 07:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBFnEHm_K1M

I was classified as pure D type, you filthy basic white A scum. Go back to anatolia.

Rolf,where were you classified as pure D?

And what pure D means since the types differe drastically?

You're a neo-med,deal with it.

Why do you take as granted that I'm a basic white?Which means ALPHA.

Dienekes calculator gives me as D,understandable since the basic white types don't differ drastically.

And if you were an invader D from Bronze age,since the type fell later it means that A sexualised D's sisters or some D-Grimaldoid mix.

So more native and more DOM.

Anyway,it's irrelevant.

What you're it's a medieval Jew from Poland with some distant Polish ancestry and Albanian mindset.

Go watch the Pianist to learn about your ancestors.

Borna
01-14-2015, 07:31 PM
What you're it's a medieval Jew from Poland with some distant Polish ancestry and Albanian mindset.


That must be truly toxic mix.

Bloodsport
01-14-2015, 07:42 PM
She was a primary school teacher? Oh my god, what lucky kids.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j3qkuUmlxI

Faklon
01-14-2015, 07:45 PM
That must be truly toxic mix.

They call themselves Macedonians...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijSOuUiXhLc

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QB_PWEg3Buk/hqdefault.jpg

Faklon
01-14-2015, 07:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teZyCW9XqjU

And what pure D means since the types differe drastically?

Wrong, filthy pellasgian scum.

"And although Type D has low variability, it includes four slightly different tendencies" Type A has nothing to do with D and instead falls with the equally disgusting C type. Mixed Alpines and Nordic Iranians will forever be the core of GLORIOUS WEST MACEDONIA, D and E, short for DEath. Death to filthy pellasgian scum, that is.

Glorious corded neo med master race that displaced the ancient meds with weapons of iron and bronze. I piss on your proto european minoan heritage, faggot.

neo-meds came from the south lel

you were driving the boat for a Minoan grimaldoid

LOLOLOLOLOL

the connection between C and A is that they both have theoritically UP types,royal and UP alpines

D can be as rugged

Stop Sikeliotizing types you neo-peasant

Gloooorious

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/csFmOWS5icU/hqdefault.jpg

HellLander87
01-14-2015, 08:15 PM
Agreed,typical negressalian influence.

Η 25χρονη από την Καρδίτσα που διεκδικεί το στέμμα της Μις Υφήλιος (http://mad.tv/i-25chroni-apo-tin-karditsa-pou-diekdiki-to-stemma-tis-mis-ifilios/)

rolf

oh wait

-poulos?

Name is of course more typical for Larissa than anywhere else.

http://www.11888.gr/list-names?_wpType=name&_wpName=%CE%BD%CF%84%CE%B1%CF%86%CE%BF%CF%80%CE%BF %CF%85%CE%BB%CE%BF%CF%82&_pc=NjUuNTU4NDJARGFzT1RFLjguMzkuMEBkYXNmc3F1ZXJ5MS 5vdGUuZ3I%3D&_sd=1995381365&page=6

rolf



Anyway,I classify her as pretty chick(atypical for East Thessaly from Almyros to Olympus).
Sincerity above all. It' s true that from volos karditsa and southwards there are heavy negroid influences.
Btw -poulos surnames do not exist at larissa/northern thessaly. no strange at all that these surnames are prevalent at the black regions from peloponnese to karditsa. About Dafopoulos specifically it seems like a vlacho-peloponnesian/black surname which makes sense about her look.

What's the point of posting this pic .To scare me? She is like Schwarze-neger at that pic.onoma kai pragma lol

Faklon
01-14-2015, 08:19 PM
Type D neomed came from wherever and raped you scum into submission during bronze, filthy autocthonous gypsy.

Allahu ekber, son of neolithic prostitute.

neo-zionist byzantine import arnani son of a grimaldoid harem


you speaking to diy shepherds-made farmers here

sakakakskasoaksaoskasokokokatziepsilongiou

Faklon
01-14-2015, 08:36 PM
Sincerity above all. It' s true that from volos karditsa and southwards there are heavy negroid influences.
Btw -poulos surnames do not exist at larissa/northern thessaly. no strange at all that these surnames are prevalent at the black regions from peloponnese to karditsa. About Dafopoulos specifically it seems like a vlacho-peloponnesian/black surname which makes sense about her look.

Northern Thessaly.xD

Tbh,both Volos and most of Larissa are traditionally known as black areas.

I'm surprised actually that Larissa doesn't have any twin cities in Africa.

Now -poulos doesn't seem to have any hits in Peloponnese which makes you think that he wasn't a groom or an immigrant there.

My guess that he was some servant of Omer Vrioni that was stationed in Larissa stronghold,joined the Vlachs and was rehellenized later.

Min to piezeis giati ehw kati special kai den thelw na tapeinwsw entelws tin Thessalia.

Faklon
01-14-2015, 08:40 PM
neolithic peasant, we raped ur mothers and killed ur fathers then buried ourselves in shaft graves u swarthoid gypsies

i will rebuild ancient mycenae and kill every basic white scum and c type alpine i find new imperial order will rise like in byzantium

neolithic peasant and up peasant in less than an hour

gtfo sickeliotid neo-med slave of grimaldoids

I will sent a fat grimaldoid friend to shit in your recent grave if you push it more

Faklon
01-14-2015, 08:55 PM
u are the same shit, up types were full up in the neolithic, check angels table you neolithic bastard mongrel

i will destroy you with iron like in the doric invasion you basic white subhuman, rape your sister as your city burns

ionian incel doric pride you potato faced non aesthetic goblinoid snaga tendecied animal born of anal birth we will raze your civilization to the ground

rolf,check charles theories you neo-med grimaldoid anal fart

the only reason the type rose was because of a basic white interaction with your neo-med females relatives

lol@Dorian

at most you're ephialtes neo-med of the Dorians that made them fail

more or less you remain a grimaldoid Dorian condom fart with a Trojan condom appearance.

I burned your fathers in Troy's underground red light district only for your converted to judaism mother to escape and turn a rat for the Spartans.

Fucking abomination.

Bloodsport
01-14-2015, 08:56 PM
Why are we arguing and not observing the beautiful woman? :(

Borna
01-14-2015, 09:10 PM
piss on your proto european minoan heritage, faggot.

I gladly join this, pissing on all proto Euros, not just Minoans.

You are beaten, conquered, pissed on and raped, all you can do is hide your dirty miniscule bracycephalic heads under some stone.

Faklon
01-14-2015, 09:11 PM
what female relatives you raped offspring of dinaro alpine cm dorics

nordic iranians came from east and north with iron and bronze and skinned your mothers alive and burned your villages you paleolithic/neolithic pre iron age incel

type d reigns supreme you filthy autocthonous peasant master caste of the doric race that destroyed your filthy kingdoms and turned your messenian relative into helots to be raped forever

never talk to me again of cordeds of type d you filthy basic white autochtonous nigger i swear i will find you

Stop Sikeliotizing the types you neo-med immigran slave of Grimaldoids and later Helot of Dorians.

only d2 came from the east and we don't know when but it was already present from what I remember by the classifications of Angel

You are an abomination of Dinaro-Alpine Vlacharvanite with a neo-med woman that ratted Spartans and made them fail.

We in the meanwhile have gone to Troy where your cousins lived,won and partied.

There is one Corded type when the rest are just D,so dick.

If you're in Macedonia I'm coming right now.If you promise that you won't rat me too if I break your house and take your money to repay my trip and my time.

Promise?I'm sending you my phone on rep.

Faklon
01-14-2015, 09:17 PM
yes exactly these filthy proto european types should be exterminated

fuck basic whites

basic white are dolico-meso wide headed


rolf,start autopissing fellatio

Faklon
01-14-2015, 09:21 PM
send plane tickets you filthy descendant of ionic slaves in doric macedonian cities, corded med and irano med is the TRUE D TYPE and i will destroy yoyu with great D magic

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JKH6E2wsY8g/UbscOSmED-I/AAAAAAAA0IE/I1BJnO_GWaQ/s400/nellys_nude_photos_acropolis-10.jpg

your days are numbered fitlhy basic white peasant

Fail,jesus.

That's an Ionic med right there straight out of Smyrna and still more true than you.

The paranoia has gotten into your neo-med head and you don't know what to say.

You're the ephialtes helot of the Dorians and a loser in Troy.

DEAL WITH IT YOU ABOMINATION

Borna
01-14-2015, 09:24 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JKH6E2wsY8g/UbscOSmED-I/AAAAAAAA0IE/I1BJnO_GWaQ/s400/nellys_nude_photos_acropolis-10.jpg

No matter where Doliocephalic head occures, whether it be Corded Nordics, Hallstat Nordics, North Pontids or Meds, everywhere it has that Noble tone and refined looks.

Faklon
01-14-2015, 09:25 PM
not after alpines raped u u peasant

THE PARANOIA HAS GOT INTO YOUR NEO-MED HEAD

SLAVE OF GRIMALDOID TSIFLIKADES

Faklon
01-14-2015, 09:37 PM
ass dirty ionic cocksucker i look kjust like karampatsis but i have a noble name too and 100% doric balkanite raper of ionic subhumans from the DORIC COLONIES OF ASMIA MINOR YOU SUBGYPSY ANIMAL GO SUCK BROWNBEAR'S MICROPEBNIS YOU NEOLITHIC LEVANTI NE FUCK

we ruled byzantium too never forget macedonian dynasty dorics werew VERY BALKANIC LOOKING GUYS YOU SUBHUMAN CAPE VERDE SICILIAN BASIC WHITE AUSTRALOID

kill all ionics REMOVE SUBHUMAN FROM PREMISES YOU WILL PELOPONESIAN WAR/MACEDONIAN CONQUEST DESTRUCTION OF ATHENS BEST DAY OF MY LIFE

ASSTARD,YOU HAVE A BYZANTINE SURNAME THAT REMAINED LIKE THAT SINCE WE DESTROYED YOUR BUTTS IN TROY

KARAMPATIS IS 100% IONIC MED(AND NOT FROM DORIC EXPANSION IN SIKELIOT LAND RHODES) BY EXPANSION OF THE DOMS IN ASIA MINOR AND STILL MORE TRUE THAN YOU


DEAL WITH IT

GO DANCE MACARENA FOR NIHILIST YOU FILTHY TROJAN CONDOM-HEADED APE

I HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK TO EAT NOW

SOME JEWS FROM VEROIA BROUGHT ME NEO-MED IN SPAGHETTI

HellLander87
01-14-2015, 09:59 PM
Northern Thessaly.xD

Tbh,both Volos and most of Larissa are traditionally known as black areas.

I'm surprised actually that Larissa doesn't have any twin cities in Africa.

Now -poulos doesn't seem to have any hits in Peloponnese which makes you think that he wasn't a groom or an immigrant there.

My guess that he was some servant of Omer Vrioni that was stationed in Larissa stronghold,joined the Vlachs and was rehellenized later.

Min to piezeis giati ehw kati special kai den thelw na tapeinwsw entelws tin Thessalia.
lol -poulos=made in peloponnesos.
ton eayto sou tapinonis entelos me ta post sou.Rix' ta special gia to kalo sou.O tapinon eayton ypsothisetai.

Faklon
01-14-2015, 10:11 PM
lol -poulos=made in peloponnesos.
ton eayto sou tapinonis entelos me ta post sou.Rix' ta special gia to kalo sou.O tapinon eayton ypsothisetai.

-poulos made in peloponnese,proof?
why no peloponnesian frequencies?

Pas o ypswn eafton tapinothisete.

pas na mu to pekseis ki ekklisia tromara su




--------------------------------


ANYWAY,BRONZE AGE GRIMALDOID SLAVE INCEL MRMALUS CHICKENS OUT TO CALL ME

HE MOST CERTAINLY IS IN XERXES PALACE RIGHT NOW

Pjeter Pan
01-14-2015, 10:14 PM
lol -poulos=made in peloponnesos.
ton eayto sou tapinonis entelos me ta post sou.Rix' ta special gia to kalo sou.O tapinon eayton ypsothisetai.

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap SON!

Casandrinos
01-14-2015, 10:26 PM
Why are you doing this to me Faklon

The whore is from Veroia and looks like the goridoid taurid type you mentioned

Kill all the Jews and give their properties to Anatolian bros


Remove revani

Faklon
01-14-2015, 10:31 PM
WHY MR MALUS DOESN'T ANSWER?

CHOICES:

1.HE IS WORKING FOR GRIMALDOIDS

2.HE LOOKS TO FIND SOME ANATOLIAN WITH A NAME LIKE DIMITROS KARASUTZUKOUSIS TO SHOW HIS DORIAN RACE

3.HE IS AN INCEL

4.HE IS A NEO-MED

5.HE IS AN INCEL NEO-MED

Faklon
01-14-2015, 10:38 PM
your powers will not work on me subhuman

i have traced your number

it comes under a turkish name

WHO ARE YOU KIDDING

CALL IF YOU DARE

JUST DO IT

Pjeter Pan
01-14-2015, 10:41 PM
CALL IF YOU DARE

JUST DO IT

i double dare you to grow up xD

Faklon
01-14-2015, 10:42 PM
Why are you doing this to me Faklon

The whore is from Veroia and looks like the goridoid taurid type you mentioned

Kill all the Jews and give their properties to Anatolian bros


Remove revani

I will send you everything you want under the boundaries of your mahala when I repopulate the place with A(lpha) DOMS.

Just keep it low so NATO won't built a base here and there.

Pjeter Pan
01-14-2015, 10:45 PM
man this girl is fucking hot thou. brown eyes, brown hair, thick lips, and nice long legs. all she's missing is a bubble shaped boooty

atlanto-med, nothin beats balkan beauty
9/10

Casandrinos
01-14-2015, 11:04 PM
I will send you everything you want under the boundaries of your mahala when I repopulate the place with A(lpha) DOMS.

Just keep it low so NATO won't built a base here and there.


I don't want this filth to invade my precious land.

They are back stabbers, egocentric and cook bad food.

Fuck Veroia ,boycotte revani

Faklon
01-14-2015, 11:13 PM
I don't want this filth to invade my precious land.

They are back stabbers, egocentric and cook bad food.

Fuck Veroia ,boycotte revani

yep,mrmaleas tried to trace me like it's that easy

classical backdoor behaviour

Casandrinos
01-14-2015, 11:18 PM
yep,mrmaleas tried to trace me like it's that easy

classical backdoor behaviour


They seem friendly only because they deep down know they're incels.

Once you give them more importance than they deserve theyll fuck you up.

True story

Faklon
01-14-2015, 11:26 PM
They seem friendly only because they deep down know they're incels.

Once you give them more importance than they deserve theyll fuck you up.

True story

true dat but sometimes they think that they're too smart

the idea of mrmalus and his neo-med hands trembling besides his phone made my night

to call or not call

what if he traces me back?

good show,good night

Queen B
01-15-2015, 05:50 AM
man this girl is fucking hot thou. brown eyes, brown hair, thick lips, and nice long legs. all she's missing is a bubble shaped boooty

atlanto-med, nothin beats balkan beauty
9/10
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m4cOJxGZZIQ/U9k8nEiwNHI/AAAAAAABYc0/d8P3E2-4vjI/s1600/kamikazi+%283%29.jpg

Faklon
01-16-2015, 11:58 AM
^East Negrassalian influence getting more obvious.

The fact that Hellander doesn't accept her as Larissan but he accepts Spanoulis who is as dark makes me think that he's a light Avar type.