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Wild North
01-14-2015, 08:52 PM
I´m somewhat fascinated by romance languages. Though I´m not from a romance speaking country myself.

The rule is this: I ask a question, and the one of you giving a correct answer, could go on with a new question.

Question:

Was there ever a Romance language that was written in Cyrillic letters?

Ianus
01-14-2015, 08:54 PM
Was there ever a Romance language that was written in Cyrillic letters?

Moldovan is written is Cyrillic

B01AB20
01-14-2015, 08:57 PM
Was there ever a Romance language that was written in Cyrillic letters?


Romance languages

The Moldovan language used the Cyrillic script until 1918 and again between 1946 and 1989. Nowadays, this alphabet is still official in the unrecognized republic of Transnistria.
Romanian (up to the 19th century, and a different form of Cyrillic in Moldova from 1940–89 exclusively; now Cyrillic is used in Transnistria officially and in the rest of the country in everyday communication by some groups of people; see Moldovan alphabet)
Ladino in occasional Bulgarian Sephardic publications.

Wild North
01-14-2015, 09:25 PM
Both of you answered correctly. But Ianus was first. So please, Ianus, go on with a new question.

Ianus
01-14-2015, 09:29 PM
What is the longest word in Italian?

alfieb
01-14-2015, 09:34 PM
Psiconeuroendocrinoimmunologia (Psychoneuroendocrinoimmunology in English).

B01AB20
01-14-2015, 10:08 PM
Psiconeuroendocrinoimmunologia (Psychoneuroendocrinoimmunology in English).

that is several words joined not just one word.

the longest single word in spanish is 'ESTERNOCLEIDOMASTOIDEO', and surely in italian too.

here it is. :p

http://educacionfisicamaruxamallo.wikispaces.com/file/view/esternocleido_(214_x_400).jpg/168193041/esternocleido_(214_x_400).jpg

Wild North
01-18-2015, 02:10 PM
Bump!

New question!

What kind of Spanish dialect, is spoken in eastern Argentina / around Buenos Aires?

B01AB20
01-18-2015, 04:20 PM
Bump!

New question!

What kind of Spanish dialect, is spoken in eastern Argentina / around Buenos Aires?

Lunfardo is a dialect originated and developed in the late 19th and early 20th centuries in the lower classes in Buenos Aires and the surrounding Gran Buenos Aires,[1][2] and from there spread to other cities nearby, such as Rosario and Montevideo, cities with similar socio-cultural situations. Originally, Lunfardo was a slang used by criminals and soon by other people of the lower and lower-middle classes. Later, many of its words and phrases were introduced in the vernacular and disseminated Spanish of Argentina and Uruguay. Nevertheless, since the early 20th century, Lunfardo has spread among all social strata and classes, either by habitual use or because it was common in the lyrics of tango.

Lunfardo (or briefly, lunfa) began as prison slang in the late 19th century, so guards would not understand the prisoners.

Longbowman
01-18-2015, 04:22 PM
Lunfardo is a dialect originated and developed in the late 19th and early 20th centuries in the lower classes in Buenos Aires and the surrounding Gran Buenos Aires,[1][2] and from there spread to other cities nearby, such as Rosario and Montevideo, cities with similar socio-cultural situations. Originally, Lunfardo was a slang used by criminals and soon by other people of the lower and lower-middle classes. Later, many of its words and phrases were introduced in the vernacular and disseminated Spanish of Argentina and Uruguay. Nevertheless, since the early 20th century, Lunfardo has spread among all social strata and classes, either by habitual use or because it was common in the lyrics of tango.

Lunfardo (or briefly, lunfa) began as prison slang in the late 19th century, so guards would not understand the prisoners.

Oh. I thought it was going to be Rioplatense.

B01AB20
01-18-2015, 04:27 PM
Oh. I thought it was going to be Rioplatense.

ehh?? Rioplatense??

well maybe it's the same don't know, maybe some argentinian could enlighten us.

Longbowman
01-18-2015, 04:28 PM
ehh?? Rioplatense??

well maybe it's the same don't know, maybe some argentinian could enlighten us.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espa%C3%B1ol_rioplatense

B01AB20
01-18-2015, 04:33 PM
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espa%C3%B1ol_rioplatense

haha... OK.

then lumfardo is something like a dilect inside another dialect.

Longbowman
01-18-2015, 04:35 PM
haha... OK.

then lumfardo is something like a dilect inside another dialect.

Quien sabe con estos latinoamericanos.

Wild North
01-19-2015, 12:14 AM
Rioplatense was what I had in mind. I don´t know much about Lunfardo though. Isn´t Lunfardo the local vernacular slang in Buenos Aires city.

Jacques de Imbelloni
01-19-2015, 12:23 AM
Rioplatense was what I had in mind. I don´t know much about Lunfardo though. Isn´t Lunfardo the local vernacular slang in Buenos Aires city.
Yes, it was the lower class slang in the early XX century, nowadays the prison inmates secret slang and codes are knowns as lenguaje tumbero.

rioplatense it's just a geographical reference, and its used to denominate the accent more than the slang.

Old tango lyrics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivhjCS58OZQ
CASTELLANO
Rechiflao en mi tristeza hoy te evoco y veo que has sido
en mi pobre vida paria solo una buena mujer;
tu presencia de bacana puso calor en mi nido,
fuiste buena, consecuente, y yo se que me has querido
como no quisiste a nadie, como no podras querer.

Se dio el juego de remanye, cuando vos, pobre percanta,
gambeteabas la pobreza en la casa de pension;
hoy sos toda una bacana,la vida te rie y canta,
los morlacos del otario los tiras a la marchanta
como juega el gato maula con el misero raton.

Hoy tenes el mate lleno de infelices ilusiones,
te engrupieron los otarios, las amigas, el gavion;
la milonga entre magnates con sus locas tentaciones
donde triunfan y claudican milongueras pretensiones
se te ha entrado muy adentro en el pobre corazon.

Nada debo agradecerte, mano a mano hemos quedado,
no me importa lo que has hecho, lo que haces, ni lo que haras
los favores recibido creo habertelos pagado
y si alguna deuda chica sin querer se me ha olvidado,
en la cuenta del otario si queres se la cargas.

Mientras tanto que tus triunfos, pobres triunfos pasajeros,
sean una larga fila de riquezas y placer;
que el bacan que te acamala tenga pesos duraderos,
y te abras en las paradas con cafishios milonqueros,
y que digan los muchachos: "Es una buena mujer."

Y mañana cuando seas descolado mueble viejo
Y no tengas esperanzas en tu pobre corazon;
si precisas una ayuda, si te hace falta un consejo,
acordate de este amigo que ha de jugarse el pellejo
p'ayudarte en lo que pueda, cuando sea la ocasion.


ENGLISH
Totally daft in my sadness today I reminisce and realize that you'e been
in my poor orphan life nothing but a good woman;
your well-to-do lady's presence warmed up my nest,
you were good, honorable, and I know that you loved me
like you didn't love anybody, like you'll never be able to.

There was a time when you, a poor girl
dodged poverty in a boarding house;
now you're quite a wealthy lady, life smiles and sings at you,
the fool's fortune you squander everywhere
the way the trickster cat plays with the wretched mouse

Today your head is filled with wretched illusions
you were conned by the fools, by your girlfriends, and by the libertine;
the milonga among tycoons, with its crazy temptations
where dance pretenses suceed and fail,
has entered deep inside your poor heart.

There is nothing to thank you for, even steven we have ended,
I don't care what you've done, what you do, or what you'll do
all the favors I received, I think I have already paid you for
and if there is a small debt which unwillingly I have forgotten,
in the fool's account, please charge it if you want.

Meanwhile, may your triumphs, sad temporary triumphs,
be a long line of richness and pleasure.
May the rich concubine who supports you, have long lasting dough
and may you show off your vanity among pimping milongueros
and may the guys say, "She is a good woman."

And tomorrow when you become a rebuffed old object
and you no longer have hope in your poor heart
if you need some help, if you can use some advice,
remember me as a friend who is going to risk his skin
to help you in any way, when the time comes for that.

Longbowman
01-19-2015, 01:10 AM
Rioplatense was what I had in mind. I don´t know much about Lunfardo though. Isn´t Lunfardo the local vernacular slang in Buenos Aires city.

Excellent, then I win!

My question is: name two languages endemic to Sardinia that are not Sardinian.

Wild North
01-20-2015, 11:38 PM
Excellent, then I win!

My question is: name two languages endemic to Sardinia that are not Sardinian.

French and Italian.

dawson
01-21-2015, 12:02 AM
"zuzzurellone"

last word of Italian dictionary

Longbowman
01-21-2015, 12:04 AM
French and Italian.

No, I'm afraid not.

Ianus
01-21-2015, 12:33 AM
Catalan in Alghero and Piemontese in Carloforte if i'm not wrong

Longbowman
01-21-2015, 08:13 AM
Catalan in Alghero and Piemontese in Carloforte if i'm not wrong

Would you say Ligurian and Piedmontese are the same language?

Ianus
01-21-2015, 09:06 AM
Would you say Ligurian and Piedmontese are the same language?

No, it was Ligurian, not Piedmontese sorry.

Longbowman
01-21-2015, 09:16 AM
No, it was Ligurian, not Piedmontese sorry.

Yes :)

Ianus
01-21-2015, 09:21 AM
Which is the only Italian region where are present all three biggest families of dialects of Italy?

Rudel
01-21-2015, 09:21 AM
You could add Corsican as well.


Which is the only Italian region where are present all three biggest families of dialects of Italy?
I'd say the Marche, which was named thus for a reason.

Ianus
01-21-2015, 09:27 AM
You could add Corsican as well.


I'd say the Marche, which was named thus for a reason.

Correct

Longbowman
01-21-2015, 09:36 AM
You could add Corsican as well.


I'd say the Marche, which was named thus for a reason.

I was looking for Corsican, but Ligurian is also correct.

Wild North
01-21-2015, 11:21 AM
No, I'm afraid not.

Italian at least.

Longbowman
01-21-2015, 01:14 PM
Italian at least.

Italian isn't really endemic either.

Mens-Sarda
01-21-2015, 01:36 PM
Excellent, then I win!

My question is: name two languages endemic to Sardinia that are not Sardinian.


I'll add also Gallurese which is a Corsican dialect, arrived in Sardinia since XVIth century, and Sassarese language, a language born in Sardinia from the Pisan colonization of the area between Sassari and the coast, both Corsican and Sassarese are closely related to ancient Tuscan, also Corsica was colonized by Pisans, these languages are quite similar and easily understand each other, they are also similar to Italian, because Italian comes from the same ancient Tuscan language that originated Corsican and Sassarese, while Sardinian language is completely unrelated

map
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Sardinia_Language_Map.png

Longbowman
01-21-2015, 02:28 PM
I'll add also Gallurese which is a Corsican dialect, arrived in Sardinia since XVIth century, and Sassarese language, a language born in Sardinia from the Pisan colonization of the area between Sassari and the coast, both Corsican and Sassarese are closely related to ancient Tuscan, also Corsica was colonized by Pisans, these languages are quite similar and easily understand each other, they are also similar to Italian, because Italian comes from the same ancient Tuscan language that originated Corsican and Sassarese, while Sardinian language is completely unrelated

map
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Sardinia_Language_Map.png

Yes, I only asked for two and Rudel got it. I was thinking of Corsican though.

Wild North
06-10-2015, 11:05 PM
In France there are two main dialects; there is Langue d´oc, and there is Langue d´?

Longbowman
06-10-2015, 11:25 PM
In France there are two main dialects; there is Langue d´oc, and there is Langue d´?

Oil.

Wild North
06-10-2015, 11:39 PM
Oil.

Correct.

Longbowman
06-10-2015, 11:52 PM
My question: what is Shuadit?

Wild North
06-11-2015, 12:32 AM
My question: what is Shuadit?

A (Raetic) Romansch dialect ?

Longbowman
06-11-2015, 12:32 AM
A (Raetic) Romansch dialect ?

No :)

Leo Iscariot
06-13-2015, 03:39 PM
My question: what is Shuadit?

A Juedo-Occitan dialect not unlike Ladino, except being dead after it's last speaker died sometime in the 20th century.

Longbowman
06-13-2015, 04:25 PM
A Juedo-Occitan dialect not unlike Ladino, except being dead after it's last speaker died sometime in the 20th century.

More or less.

Valmont
06-13-2015, 04:34 PM
A Juedo-Occitan dialect not unlike Ladino, except being dead after it's last speaker died sometime in the 20th century.



More or less.

There isn't much to add, except maybe that it was spoken in Southern France and belongs to the langues d'Oc?

Leo Iscariot
06-13-2015, 08:20 PM
More or less.

Did I need more detail? I just figured the gist was enough.

Longbowman
06-13-2015, 08:22 PM
Did I need more detail? I just figured the gist was enough.

no you are win

Leo Iscariot
06-13-2015, 08:48 PM
Ballin'.

What is Dgèrnésiais?

Longbowman
06-13-2015, 08:53 PM
Ballin'.

What is Dgèrnésiais?

Language of Guernsey? Norman French as spoken in the island of Guernsey.

Leo Iscariot
06-13-2015, 09:04 PM
Language of Guernsey? Norman French as spoken in the island of Guernsey.

Yup.

Longbowman
06-13-2015, 09:14 PM
Yup.

British questions are too easy.

Name all four Eastern Romance languages.

Leo Iscariot
06-13-2015, 09:16 PM
British questions are too easy.

Name all four Eastern Romance languages.

Should've figured. :lol:

Romanian, Aromanian, Mengalo-Romanian, and Istro-Romanian?

Longbowman
06-13-2015, 09:21 PM
Should've figured. :lol:

Romanian, Aromanian, Mengalo-Romanian, and Istro-Romanian?

Yes. Thought it was Megelo-Romanian however.

Leo Iscariot
06-13-2015, 09:32 PM
Yes. Thought it was Megelo-Romanian however.

Is it? Ngl I wasn't too sure on the spelling on the last 2.

Longbowman
06-13-2015, 09:44 PM
Is it? Ngl I wasn't too sure on the spelling on the last 2.

Megleno, apparently.

Leo Iscariot
06-13-2015, 09:50 PM
Megleno, apparently.

Poop...

Rudel
06-16-2015, 05:43 PM
My question: what is Shuadit?
The Provençal of Jews from the Comtat Venaissin (the former Papal state surrounding Avignon and Carpentras). The last speakers lived here in Aix, though.


Ballin'.

What is Dgèrnésiais?
A retarded way of writing Guernesiais, or Guernsey French.

B01AB20
06-16-2015, 09:00 PM
for speculation purposes only...

what will be tha last romance language alive?

what will be the first (big) romance language to die?

big in terms od demografy and 'power': spanish, french, portuguese, italian, romanian.

Longbowman
06-16-2015, 09:24 PM
big in terms od demografy and 'power': spanish, french, portuguese, italian, romanian.

that order.

Wild North
08-31-2015, 09:05 PM
Bump

What is the Romance dialect or language, spoken in northern Greece and Mecedonia called?

SKYNET
08-31-2015, 09:07 PM
Bump

What is the Romance dialect or language, spoken in northern Greece and Mecedonia called?



aromanian?

Wild North
08-31-2015, 09:28 PM
aromanian?

Absolutely.