Russia does not take part in present civil Disorder!

[ЛыSSый]

Russia does not take part in present civil Disorder in Ukraine, ironically named "antiterroristic operation".
There are no any prooves of presence in Ukraine any russian forces except humanitarian relief.
Look at another example: when in summer RF army comed in Crimea, our pieces of scried shit, army named, runned away without any shoot, but now...
they trying to play in war, cause much more easier have fights with untrained civilians, that with regular army.

To all biches and gypsies, who barking that situation is good: fuck you all, pieces of shit, wish the same fate to you and your children.

[Drakoblare]

What am I reading?

[Methmatician]

Российская бронетехника в войне на Донбассе (http://sled-vzayt.livejournal.com/1730.html)

[ЛыSSый]

Российская бронетехника в войне на Донбассе (http://sled-vzayt.livejournal.com/1730.html)
espesially for you: our president Poroshenko near "russian" tank

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BteVudbIUAA-W5L.jpg

[ЛыSSый]

Nobody has ever submitted concrete evidence pointing at Russia's alleged 'aggression' against Ukraine, including monitors from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150116/1016991962.html)

Excuse me, but russians must me gods of war and conspiration, if they are present in my country about year and nobody have any prooves about them.

[Methmatician]

Excuse me, but russians must me gods of war and conspiration, if they are present in my country about year and nobody have any prooves about them.
They have. Russians are just gods of denial.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiCTgQ-CQAEXKvW.jpg:large

[ЛыSSый]

They have. Russians are just gods of denial.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiCTgQ-CQAEXKvW.jpg:large funny picture, but if we are definited themselves as civiliced people, we need prooves, but not prooveless barking.

[ЛыSSый]

...ooops, you did it again! Let me introduce my favourite butthurted clown:

http://s020.radikal.ru/i705/1501/24/2496e668a092.jpg

[Shkembe Chorba]

Russia does not take part in present civil Disorder in Ukraine, ironically named "antiterroristic operation".
There are no any prooves of presence in Ukraine any russian forces except humanitarian relief.
Look at another example: when in summer RF army comed in Crimea, our pieces of scried shit, army named, runned away without any shoot, but now...
they trying to play in war, cause much more easier have fights with untrained civilians, that with regular army.

To all biches and gypsies, who barking that situation is good: fuck you all, pieces of shit, wish the same fate to you and your children.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/a46e924d81b66a9ed2d5b3655dc9f9bc/tumblr_inline_nfsos9tlQK1rnf9nt.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjs5Qj0Ki20


Mounting evidence of Russian presence in Ukraine

http://globalnews.ca/video/1535070/mounting-evidence-of-russian-presence-in-ukraine

[Minesweeper]

What types of T-72's are used by Russian Army that are not used by Ukrainian Army and are present in Ukraine? Can you experts who blame Russians for invading Ukraine answer and show evidences.

I saw that link showing dozens of tanks, if dozens of Russian tanks were caught on picture in Ukraine don't you think all the major broadcasting services would show it?

[Ballist]

What types of T-72's are used by Russian Army that are not used by Ukrainian Army and are present in Ukraine? Can you experts who blame Russians for invading Ukraine answer.

Then how the fuck did they get a SAM. Do you know how expensive they are? Over $100,000 for a missile! And someone professional would need to know how to control a SAM. Not some hobo. Maybe a Russian soldier would, maybe a former Russian soldier.

[Shkembe Chorba]

Vladimir Yefimov said he had helped Russian militants get into Ukraine by hiding in one of the humanitarian convoys Moscow

http://www.e1.ru/news/spool/news_id-416966.html


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo7qLUFo9I0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y6Y7ccon0E


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRG6fyX49t4

[Shkembe Chorba]

Demobilized Russian conscripts: We “conquered” Crimea, fought in Donbas for Russia


Interviewer: – It’s raining now. When you travel in the rain, it’s a good omen. What’s your name?

Soldier 1: – My names is Alexei.

I (with pathos): – Alexei, tell about yourself. You are going now toward your life! You are going to the continent! Who are you?

S1: – I am a discharged military. I just finished my military service. Just now finished it.

I: – Where did you serve?

S1: – In Kerch (a city in the Russia-occupied Crimea – Transl.)

I: – Where did you fight?

S1: – In Luhansk (a city in the Russia-occupied part of the Donbas region on the eastern border of Ukraine – Transl.)

I: – Who did you fight for?

S1: – For ours, who else.

I: – For whom?

S1: – For Russia.

I (with pathos): – For Russia! Alexei, just look there. Unfortunately, there’s no sun right now, but there upfront is Port Kavkaz (the Russian port on the ferry route from Kerch to Russia – Transl.) and the continent. What are you expecting from the continent?

S1: – It’s my home. It’s Krasnodar Region.

I: – Where? What town?

S1: – The city of Slaviansk-on-Kuban.

I (with pathos): – Slaviansk-on-Kuban! Russian girls – your coolest, your best future fiance is coming to you! (To the soldier again): Where are your friends? Do you have your friends here? Call your friends.

S1 (to people off camera): – Come here.

I (to the people off camera): – Boys – come here, come here.

(Short pause while a new soldier enters the frame.)

I (to Soldier 2): – Your comrade is coming toward his destiny. Is it right?

S2: – Right.

I: – Were you also in the Crimea?

S2: – Yes.

I: – You were in the Crimea in March?

S2: – Yes, we were in the Crimea together.

I: – So, it’s you who are the “polite little men”? (“Polite little men” is a Russian propaganda name for the Russian invasion force in the Crimea – Transl.)

S1 and S2: – Yes.

I (with pathos): – Guys, I bow down to you. You entered history. Together with VVP: Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, you entered history. Do you know about it?

S1 and S2: – Yes. Of course.

I: – You are like Yermak, Yermak Timofeyevich. Do you remember such?

S1 and S2: – Of course.

I: -The one who conquered Siberia (for Russia – Transl.) You returned a huge piece of land.

S1 (distressed): – My uniform will “melt.”

I (hurrying): – That’s all guys. I am finishing up now, taking a few pictures for you, for your memories, with the Russian flag. That’s all. Thank you. Run, boys. Good luck.

(The soldiers leave and the interviewer enters the frame.)

I: – I am Serghei Rulyov, finishing my reporting from the board of the ferry that is going from the “island” of Crimea to Port Kavkaz. Serghei Rulyov. Today is December 21, 2014. I took the interview from a “polite little man.”

[ЛыSSый]

ooouuu, Chorba mad. So moar your butthurts, baby - so moar my fun!

http://s017.radikal.ru/i437/1501/d1/040f3105baf7.jpg

[Minesweeper]

Then how the fuck did they get a SAM. Do you know how expensive they are? Over $100,000 for a missile! And someone professional would need to know how to control a SAM. Not some hobo. Maybe a Russian soldier would, maybe a former Russian soldier.

Or maybe someone who complited his mandatory military service in anti-aircraft units in Ukrainian or even Soviet army, ever thought about that?

And why do you bring SA missilies to discussions, isn't it obvious that plane was shot down by Ukrainians? As far as I know, Russians in Donbass don't have S-300, they have what Ukrainian army has, they have similar, almost identical arms.

[Shkembe Chorba]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7p2e12CEAAnGS8.jpg:large

[Ballist]

Or maybe someone who complited his mandatory military service in anti-aircraft units in Ukrainian or even Soviet army, ever though about that?

And why do you bring SA missilies to discussions, isn't it obvious that plane was shot down by Ukrainians? As far as I know, Russians in Donbass don't have S-300, they have what Ukrainian army has, they have similar, almost identical arms.

Perhaps they captured it? And the SAM system was in E. Ukraine, controlled by Russian rebel forces.

Saying Russia isn't involved in Ukraine is like saying a huge ass elephant that is in a room isn't in that room.

[Basil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjs5Qj0Ki20

http://globalnews.ca/video/1535070/mounting-evidence-of-russian-presence-in-ukraine


Those guys mistakenly crossed the border during a military exercise, they didn't even try to shoot when the Ukrainians approached them. That was back in August and the issue has been settled since then. During active military fights in near-border regions hundreds of Ukrainian armoured soldiers intentionally crossed the state border with Russia in order to escape being rounded up by the rebels. They were fed and released back to Ukraine. Too much leniency I think; at least they should have been kept in detention for a while.

The voice of reason rarely raised in these days in the West:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0_yaWyA-1s

[ЛыSSый]

http://www.e1.ru/news/spool/news_id-416966.html so, this link about sending of Russian volunteers (not espesially military). It's a good example of slavic brootherhood, like it was 138 ago, when Bulgaria was liberated from turkish yoke by russian army. You must understand it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo7qLUFo9I0 this video about nothing, we see no any markings and location of this cars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y6Y7ccon0E really military? How it definited?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRG6fyX49t4 Really russian? why russian? Prooves, dear Chorba, we need prooves, but not only funny videos about nothing.

[Shkembe Chorba]

The presence of substantial Russian forces in Ukraine must mean that they have camps there too, since such an offensive does not take place just one day. And of course the whole army does not go back to Russia to spend the night there.
So there must be camps out there!!!

To understand what we are looking for here is an example:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sFUzmlEv8wg/VLZWxJ8t8VI/AAAAAAAAAYg/OA-xbvV98IQ/s1600/Lugansk%2B56.jpg

https://www.google.com/maps/@47.594032,38.4851068,81m/data=!3m1!1e3

We just see some tracks in and out the trees. For the rest nothing.
Yet... this VK-photo is very clarifying in several ways:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-lRmA7QuAUJM/VLVLfARtPVI/AAAAAAAAAQc/Ku1Y4dIHErc/s1600/camp%2B6.jpg

It is geotagged at exactly that location:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c1ZJ__fzl2Q/VLVMVk6MQBI/AAAAAAAAAQk/2WQ0q7MQUFk/s1600/camp%2B1.JPG

Furthermore we can see an artillery firing position nearby as well as a radar unit:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eFuNOF8rb4c/VLVM-bePUZI/AAAAAAAAAQs/C1NCTwczOgs/s1600/camp%2B2.JPG

Closeup of the radar:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-kHroVCk5c5Q/VLVOQJ0wyKI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/EN6fCBwqbnU/s1600/camp%2B3.JPG

As you can see, at close examination, there is even a tent visible and to more objects that are impossible to identify.

The best way to see if something is there is to compare it with an image from older date:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JFaXJmHtBaA/VLVO0sm8jFI/AAAAAAAAARA/KR7ChUZGzks/s1600/camp%2B4.JPG

Here are photos from one of these soldiers VK-album.

This is how they live and eat:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-I6pftr5KphQ/VLVQMdUy1hI/AAAAAAAAARQ/wdadkGuqZJE/s1600/1DbV8FfRfAE.jpg

They build constructions for shelter:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mjuWwLQ8Q4Q/VLVQNWnJWbI/AAAAAAAAARk/gbhplnqVj8M/s1600/sehFbmJUDso.jpg


They dig trenches and build fortifications:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qMb6OqXEDeo/VLVQNLNyjmI/AAAAAAAAARg/mA2NSqnrnzc/s1600/m2AOrdrGZQc.jpg

Just to make sure... THIS is NOT what we can expect there:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z69go6akiUQ/VLVRIZb0s3I/AAAAAAAAAR0/We48iZN5Rx4/s1600/camp%2B7.jpg

That's how a base looks like 50 kms from the border.
Next to the border or IN Ukraine, camps have to be VERY well hidden, camouflaged and protected, because there is always a risk of an attack.

Luckily for us even such camps leave traces of the tracks of the vehicles. This is what we are looking for:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IawGOoY7E2E/VLVR0XkqlPI/AAAAAAAAAR8/GJVfw8PvfiQ/s1600/Lugansk%2B48.jpg

That one IS in Luhansk rayon. It lays behind a large artillery area (orange and yellow areas):

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LStbCR4e0TI/VLVSBKjCj6I/AAAAAAAAASE/858a6QIbzrk/s1600/Lugansk%2B49.jpg

But this is also something:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-p4SzGz57j3Y/VLVT36KtNBI/AAAAAAAAASY/VGjOXH0v0D8/s1600/camp%2B5.JPG

It's a small place, but it counts too.
The rules are like this:
tracks must go INTO and OUT of the trees. (THROUGH the trees is not very likely)
it must not be in a combat area
it must not be (next to) an artillery firing position (since they may park trucks in the bushes in those cases)
There may be traces of left behind stuff
Likely in front of the area there are numerous tracks.
So this is what I found:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cp9AG3LaXno/VLVpE2O92YI/AAAAAAAAASo/V-A4uuokwZQ/s1600/camp%2B6.JPG

Basically there are two areas with campments and some smaller ones scattered around. Also there are 2-3 offload areas next to the railway through which supplies (and/or troops) have come.

Let's have a closer look:


Forwards camps
This view shows the location is on a hill:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WYbuKiwk7zk/VLVs1vFk7rI/AAAAAAAAATA/MgAkQofFaXI/s1600/camp%2B8.JPG

In the top of the image the city Lugansk can be seen. It means the back parts of the camp will be hidden by the slope of the hill. The front parts may have a look on Lugansk.
All the green parts show tracks.

This is a look on the front part:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fmwXaPgedYo/VLWAx4RFZLI/AAAAAAAAATQ/Swk9Ym9ODyw/s1600/camp%2B9.JPG


Intense tracks can be seen all around, but it is unlikely that they camp here. it probably is a lookout point. On closer inspection on with comparison of on older image, two camouflaged vehicles can be seen. This might be a radar.

Here two more vehicles can be seen, with one park under a tree, but still visible:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G-jwYfqiwRQ/VLWBUtOcJ0I/AAAAAAAAATY/ouOVURPoDss/s1600/camp%2B10.JPG

Unclear what these are.
Further to the back three more vehicles can be seen:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZSCP6yXWCOw/VLWBlm7UhUI/AAAAAAAAATg/kyueMDbI0wQ/s1600/camp%2B11.JPG

And completely at the back of the area a lonesome vehicle stands:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-HWHbkLN24FQ/VLWBtiR9gXI/AAAAAAAAATo/uxf8_0tEHUc/s1600/camp%2B12.JPG

This might be an air defense unit, as they tend to position these in the open.

Why is this camp located here?
At some point Ukraine had almost encircled Lugansk (blue lines):

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RCMofWI_mTg/VLWDflrph5I/AAAAAAAAAT0/44riT5a0pUA/s1600/camp%2B13.JPG

This camp protected the only supply route into Lugansk. From there the Russians could drive to battle positions and fence the Ukrainians off to close the gap. But it never got to the point where the Ukrainians could conquer this position and no battles had been taken place there.
But, because several vehicles can be seen and since there must be more unseen in the tree, on August 31st parts of it are still operating.

[glass]

Conscription existed in SU, still exist in Russia and just recently abolished in Ukraine. So there are millions who know how to use soviet equipment.

[Ballist]

Conscription existed in SU, still exist in Russia and just recently abolished in Ukraine. So there are millions who know how to use soviet equipment.

Not something as complicated as that.

[Shkembe Chorba]

This location close the the border is quite a mystery:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XFEswyjC050/VLXEfwubuOI/AAAAAAAAAYI/J-h93Oq8LJU/s1600/camp%2B26.JPG

On May 15th there was nothing:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hRFYeIMXrS8/VLXAk0zhFHI/AAAAAAAAAXs/AENVCvLcSqI/s1600/camp%2B22.JPG

On August 8th they have started building there:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rk8XwBZtIVM/VLXAlt3hgRI/AAAAAAAAAX0/JQgbw24e_sM/s1600/camp%2B23.JPG

August 31st:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UKpwcLYaJSo/VLXAmbR63FI/AAAAAAAAAX4/WrqQDiudR0I/s1600/camp%2B24.JPG

On the last image something else appears nearby and a car can be seen, but that may be a coincidence of course.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uIrqUq_g7i4/VLXFQScEqOI/AAAAAAAAAYQ/I2Op2Sa08MA/s1600/camp%2B25.JPG

On a further look, I found out that they have many more of these structures which they build and break down again since 2004, including pipeline to nearby mine:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dPboos1TjeQ/VLgTO_XrP7I/AAAAAAAAZTE/XZzpnmNP4K0/s1600/camp%2B30.JPG

[ЛыSSый]

ou, it so persuasively, espesially yellow font. In this picture we can see only russian flag (but not russian army) and some undefined number in undefined place, but dear Chorba clearly beleives, that is ultimate proof. Maybe because it is written by bright font and highlighted below.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7p2e12CEAAnGS8.jpg:large

[Minesweeper]

Perhaps they captured it? And the SAM system was in E. Ukraine, controlled by Russian rebel forces.

Saying Russia isn't involved in Ukraine is like saying a huge ass elephant that is in a room isn't in that room.

Every piece of weaponry Ukrainian army posseses can be found among the rebels, that's not the secret, they use the same weapons. Look at Shkembe's evidence of Russian involvment, a tank from behind with Russian flag. Strela-10 with some markings like Russians are idiots to send marked vehicles to Ukraine. But his argumentation only speaks against him.

If there was something serious worth of mentioning that could be proven, we would be seeing the pics on CNN or BBC. Can you explain me why there aren't any?

[Basil]

Shkembe Chorba is feeding us with the blatant Ukrainian propaganda. According to their media they are killing a thousand Russian elite paratroopers a day. You can't be serious believing this stuff.

[Ballist]

Every piece of weaponry Ukrainian army posseses can be found among the rebels, that's not the secret, they use the same weapons. Look at Shkembe's evidence of Russian involvment, a tank from behind with Russian flag. Strela-10 with some markings like Russians are idiots to send marked vehicles to Ukraine. But his argumentation only speaks against him.

If there was something serious worth of mentioning that could be proven, we would be seeing the pics on CNN or BBC. Can you explain me why there aren't any?

They already did, Russian trucks and equipment. Some of them aren't even checked. They could be carrying weapons.

[ЛыSSый]

Dear Chorba, i heartilily thankful to you for all your funny texts with pictures, but...

Nobody has ever submitted concrete evidence pointing at Russia's alleged 'aggression' against Ukraine, including monitors from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150116/1016991962.html)

Excuse me, but russians must me gods of war and conspiration, if they are present in my country about year and nobody have any prooves about them.

Re-read this to fully inderstanding, please. I still beleive, that your efforts will sucsessful at final.

[Basil]

Dear Chorba, i heartilily thankful to you for all your funny texts with pictures, but...

Nobody has ever submitted concrete evidence pointing at Russia's alleged 'aggression' against Ukraine, including monitors from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) (http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150116/1016991962.html)

Excuse me, but russians must me gods of war and conspiration, if they are present in my country about year and nobody have any prooves about them.

Re-read this to fully inderstanding, please. I still beleive, that your efforts will sucsessful at final.

Maybe he is right. I visited Bulgaria once and no one noticed me. Perhaps it was not Bulgaria at all I'm so stealthy I can penetrate through borders without paying attenton to my actual location.

[glass]

Here list of 227 names of russian citizens who (presumably) died in Ukraine from Khodorkovsky website in russian (https://openrussia.org/post/view/1772/)
checked first 100, according to this list only 36 had some military background. Presumably only 6 were professional soldiers before crisis.

[Shkembe Chorba]

Every piece of weaponry Ukrainian army posseses can be found among the rebels, that's not the secret, they use the same weapons. Look at Shkembe's evidence of Russian involvment, a tank from behind with Russian flag. Strela-10 with some markings like Russians are idiots to send marked vehicles to Ukraine. But his argumentation only speaks against him.

If there was something serious worth of mentioning that could be proven, we would be seeing the pics on CNN or BBC. Can you explain me why there aren't any?

Then you will have no trouble explain those things:

- Putin admits that there were Rssian servicemen in Crimea (something that RF denied);

- Vladimir Yefimov said he had helped Russian militants get into Ukraine by hiding in one of the humanitarian convoys Moscow;

- Demobilized Russian conscripts: We “conquered” Crimea, fought in Donbas for Russia;

- Igor Strelkov admits Russia FSB affiliation.

[ЛыSSый]

Shkembe Chorba is feeding us with the blatant Ukrainian propaganda. According to their media they are killing a thousand Russian elite paratroopers a day. You can't be serious believing this stuff. what i can say to you except that even here (in ukraine) noone beleives in this shit? Maybe only what i so happy, when in world exists so great goofs, who still beleine in this.

[Shkembe Chorba]

About OSCE


Ukraine crisis: Russian 'Cargo 200' crossed border - OSCE


OSCE monitors also say more than 600 people in military clothing crossed the border over the last week

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30039004


“Across the last two days we have seen the same thing that OSCE is reporting. We have seen columns of Russian equipment – primarily Russian tanks, Russian artillery, Russian air defence systems and Russian combat troops – entering into Ukraine,” Breedlove said.


OSCE observers said on Tuesday that they had seen a convoy of 43 unmarked military trucks headed in the direction of the rebel stronghold Donetsk, five of which were towing howitzers and five rocket launchers.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/12/russian-tanks-troops-crossing-into-ukraine-nato-supreme-commander


Open source information from numerous sources has documented the presence of citizens of Russia and members of the Russian armed forces in Ukraine. Every week, the Observer Mission at the border crossing points of Gukovo and Donetsk reports on men and women in military-style clothing crossing from Russia into Ukraine.

http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/texttrans/2014/12/20141218312193.html#axzz3PD7FpMqE


Picard, a Frenchman, is witness each day to the events taking shape along the border, but there's little he can do to stop them.


One of the border crossings under OSCE observation is located near a city on Russian soil with 50,000 inhabitants.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/russia-expands-war-in-eastern-ukraine-amid-web-of-lies-a-989290.html


OSCE: Hundreds of people in military gear cross Ukraine-Russia border

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDZ5Bl7GCCI


VIENNA (Reuters) - Ukraine's envoy to European security body the OSCE said on Thursday that regular Russian forces had seized the southeastern city of Novoazovsk, but his Russian counterpart said no Russian forces were crossing the border.

http://news.yahoo.com/ukraines-osce-envoy-says-russian-forces-seized-city-115005887.html

[Basil]

what i can say to you except that even here (in ukraine) noone beleives in this shit? Maybe only what i so happy, when in world exists so great goofs, who still beleine in this.
Which town are you from? I have something around 20 or 30 relatives in Lugansk, some are distant and we are not in the direct contact. But I know the feelings locals have about the conflict. It would be interesting to know what ordinary people in the streets from other towns think in general.

[ЛыSSый]

Which town are you from? I have something around 20 or 30 relatives in Lugansk, some are distant and we are not in the direct contact. But I know the feelings locals have about the conflict. It would be interesting to know what ordinary people in the streets from other towns think in general. central hohlostan.

What we feeling? we all so bored from all thia shit.

[ЛыSSый]

About OSCE
Let me post some funny shit, how someone sayd that someone sayd... and use it as ultimate proof.
If you want to read these fairy tales, click on link (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?156204-Russia-does-not-take-part-in-present-civil-Disorder!&p=3319471&viewfull=1#post3319471)


Dear Chorba, let me represent for you official OBSE site (http://www.osce.org/). Try to find there some onformation about crossing the ukrainian-russian border by regular russian army. Beforehand thankful for your efforts. And let me notice: this information must be looks like "such number of such year regular Russian army crossed the border in the village such and such. Pictures are attached". But not like: "oh, my dears, i saw how some people on undefined truck traveled in undefined direction. They were russian soldiers or georgian mushroom pickers, I'm not sure completly".

And how i know from people, who slill living in Lugansk, they are very angry, that russia federation doesn't help to them for anything, except free food.

[Shkembe Chorba]

Dear Chorba, let me represent for you official OBSE site (http://www.osce.org/). Try to find there some onformation about crossing the ukrainian-russian border by regular russian army. Beforehand thankful for your efforts. And let me notice: this information must be looks like "such number of such year regular Russian army crossed the border in the village such and such. Pictures are attached". But not like: "oh, my dears, i saw how some people on undefined truck traveled in undefined direction. They were russian soldiers or georgian mushroom pickers, I'm not sure completly".

And how i know from people, who slill living in Lugansk, they are very angry, that russia federation doesn't help to them for anything, except free food.

Only from the official OSCE website. As you wished (despite that the links that I provided last night are also from authorized OSCE representatives and have full value of the organization official statement, you ignorant dipshit):


The proposed resolution on Russia’s actions in Ukraine, introduced by U.S. Senator Benjamin Cardin, “condemns the clear, gross and uncorrected violation of the Helsinki principles by the Russian Federation with respect to Ukraine, including the particularly egregious violation of that country’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.”

http://www.osce.org/pa/120111


COPENHAGEN, 4 March 2014 – Isabel Santos (MP, Portugal), Chair of the OSCE Parliamentary Assembly's Committee on Democracy, Human Rights and Humanitarian Questions, today criticized Russia for “violating several key provisions of the Helsinki Final Act” in its recent actions with respect to Ukraine and called on OSCE officials to consider the implications.


In an address before the OSCE Human Dimension Committee in Vienna, Santos said: “When I observe this 19th century act in the 21st century, I wonder if Russia’s de facto invasion of Ukraine means its de facto withdrawal from our Organization and its key commitments to Eurasian security.”

http://www.osce.org/pa/116087


Having said that, the ball is clearly in Russia’s court. In order to move forward towards a peaceful resolution of this crisis, Russia must withdraw all forces and equipment from Ukraine and away from its border and end its support for separatist forces,” he continued.

http://www.osce.org/pa/127178

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Anyone having answers from the question from post #31? I see Minesweeper has difficulties explaining.

[Sarmatian]

Not something as complicated as that.

Right, for something so complicated there are not millions but some tens of thousands of people. Does it make any difference?

[Basil]

central hohlostan.

What we feeling? we all so bored from all thia shit.
People of Lugansk are tired as hell. Life is still far from getting back to normal.


And how i know from people, who slill living in Lugansk, they are very angry, that russia federation doesn't help to them for anything, except free food.
That's true. They expected Russia would save them as it was in Crimea. Now it looks like they aren't good enough for Putin to step in.

[ЛыSSый]

Only from the official OSCE website.

Yooo, man, do you wanna read some funny shit wihtout any prooves about nothing what i dig there?
Just click this link! (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?156204-Russia-does-not-take-part-in-present-civil-Disorder!&p=3320700&viewfull=1#post3320700)


Dear Chorba, let me repeat: this information must be looks like "such number of such year regular Russian army crossed the border in the village such and such. Pictures are attached". But not like: "oh, my dears, i saw how some people on undefined truck traveled in undefined direction. They were russian soldiers or georgian mushroom pickers, I'm not sure completly".

Ля, Чорба, вот прикинь, что ОБСЕ тнёт болгарское правительство мордой в более чем миллион болгарских и цыганских попрошаек и карманников в ЕС, на этом основании объявит мол таким образом Болгария ведёт террористическую войну против ЕС, и потребует от болгарского правительства в три дня их всех забрать, а то наложат санкции.
Это при том, что болгарская бомжатня реально присутствует в ЕС, чему есть множество доказательств, в отличие от неуловимых никакими приборами призраков армии РФ.


Мужики, прошу, переведите на английский, пусть все поржут в этого прикола.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

russia stronk

[Shkembe Chorba]

Ля, Чорба, вот прикинь, что ОБСЕ тнёт болгарское правительство мордой в более чем миллион болгарских и цыганских попрошаек и карманников в ЕС, на этом основании объявит мол таким образом Болгария ведёт террористическую войну против ЕС, и потребует от болгарского правительства в три дня их всех забрать, а то наложат санкции.
Это при том, что болгарская бомжатня реально присутствует в ЕС, чему есть множество доказательств, в отличие от неуловимых никакими приборами призраков армии РФ.


Мужики, прошу, переведите на английский, пусть все поржут в этого прикола.

Why do you think I have any intention of reading your Russian speech?

Having difficulties with expressing yourself in English is not a reason to write in your native speech and expecting me to undersfuckingtand you.

Dont take my country in every argument of yours, you uni-brow murzilka. Shaving the hair between your eyes will be less time spending and more meaningful.

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Anyone having answer for the four questions that I asked before? Usually I have plenty of replies, for this particular post - none.

Minesweeper? You mate were very eager to post about this subject?

[ЛыSSый]

I don't want that you will know that i know russian language, but i want to continue my barking without any prooves.
If you wanna read full text of my funny barking, just click here (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?156204-Russia-does-not-take-part-in-present-civil-Disorder!&p=3326032&viewfull=1#post3326032)


Chorba, if you really want to understand me, you may use this translator (https://translate.google.com.ua/#ru/bg/), it correct enought in reason our languages rather close. Ofcause, if you civiliced human. Or you may continue try to insult me for my better fun.

And remind me your question, please. And let me notice: all of them must be valid by facts, but not like "dear Chorba, are you still going to suck dick, or have stopped?".
It's really uncorrect question, cause i have no any prooves about your sexual orientation and a way of earning money. Excuse me for it, please.

[Shkembe Chorba]

Ofcause, if you civiliced human

Еби си майката :)

[Shkembe Chorba]

On January 10, 2015, Roman Bochkala, a Ukrainian journalist, reported the following from the occupied town of Krasnodon (Luhansk Oblast):


It is a fray here today. Russian special forces, supposedly unit “Vympel”, with the support of heavy machinery, have surrounded a base of the local militia battalion “Odesa.” [There were] tons of snipers. They offered to the militants to surrender, otherwise they would storm. The reason is not clear, but it looks like a cleansing. The roads to Luhansk are closed, buses can’t pass. [Russian] special forces must have entered Ukraine last night. All of them are definitely Russian professionals, they haven’t been seen here before.

In addition, one of the separatist YouTube channels, “Coordination Center “Novaya Rus” [New Russia], posted a video “The real events in Krasnodon. 10.01.2015 Phoma MGB LPR”

We also found the following comment in the description of the video:


Our correspondents decided to check the information about blockade of the base of battalion “Odesa” in Krasnodon in the morning of January 10.
This video is proof that it isn’t a rumor: the base in fact is surrounded. The offensive forces consist of about fifty gunmen, one tank, two BPM-97 “Vystrel” armored vehicles, a lot of other vehicles, and groups of snipers dressed in winter camouflage.

In addition, the timeline of the events can be reconstructed from the social media:

09:15 am. Rumor has it that a certain Mr. Bugrov is negotiating a disarmament with Phoma (commander of “Odesa” battalion).

09:33 am. The blockade is ongoing; [there are] about fifty people, snipers, winter equipment, support: one tank, two BPM-97 “Vystrel”, a lot of other vehicles, the road is blocked. This is an external circle.

2:12 pm. Roman Bochkala wrote on his page in Facebook: «Krasnodon. Separatist battalion “Odesa”
gave in without a struggle to Russian special forces. One militants disarmed the others.”

The commander of “Odesa” made curious comments to the pro-Russia TV channel NewsFron. He said that the battalion “Odesa” was preventing robberies, looting equipment, and stealing money.

It is also curious that in the interview, the Russian special forces were carefully referred to as a “private military company.”

Further, the identification of BPM-97 “Vystrel” accidentally caught on video went viral in social networks. It says better than any words how “private” this company is.

Mr. Anatoly Desyatnik, in his comments to the video, noted that as many as three BPM-97 were filmed: the first one with the number 233, the second one with the sign VII (on board and stern), and the third one with the number 302 and the sign VII.

https://informnapalm.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/11.jpg

https://informnapalm.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/21-640x360.jpg

https://informnapalm.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/31-640x360.jpg

On the left: Militia military exercise in Luhansk. On the right: Military parade in Moscow.

https://informnapalm.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/511-640x209.jpg

Earlier in the material Luhansk “Shot” in the Head of the Kremlin Propaganda, we described how light armored Russian vehicles BPM-97 KAMAZ 43269 were spotted for the first time in Ukraine. They are produced in several versions under the names of “Vystrel” and “Dozor”.

BPM-97 (43269-KAMAZ “Vystrel”), accidentally caught on video in Krasnodon, were produced for the Federal Security Service (FSB) Border Guard Service, and as a “Dozor” modification for the Russian Armed Forces. This is a totally Russian armored border patrol vehicle produced by the Russian truck manufacturer KAMAZ. It is deployed by the Border Guard Service of Russia, by the Russian Strategic Rocket Forces, by the 7-th military base located in the Abkhazian town of Gudauta, and by the Russian Federal Penitentiary Service.

There are currently about 150 of these machines in operation. They have never been supplied to Ukraine, and therefore, could get into the Luhansk Oblast only with the Russian army, not with “private military companies” of the LPR.

Check for yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BPM-97#Users

[ЛыSSый]

On January 10, 2015, Roman Bochkala, a Ukrainian journalist, reported the following from the occupied town of Krasnodon (Luhansk Oblast):
Dear Chorba, if we are posessed ourself as civiliced people, we must trying to think, but not clearly beleive in every shit, what was shown to us.
So, if you can see, the cars really different, and i sure, that chorba posted this shit for our fun only. Or i can't understand, why ugly russians sended one lonely car only, but not tank division on kiev.

Also, dear Chorba, if you really wanna to find russian forces, let me to give some example for you.
So, this photo of Mars surface was did from satellite. This word means "XУЙ" - "PENIS" and and russian always marked by this word ewery places where they were.
So, Chorba, world needs to find and stop Putin's personal martian troops!!!

http://s017.radikal.ru/i406/1501/72/1e22535b6f5c.jpg

For example, the same word in movie "Police academy 2" (1985 year). No doubts, it was secret KGB message, something like "everything safe and clear, you may welcome".

http://static.diary.ru/userdir/8/7/6/2/876261/50033187.jpg

one more ugly doing of russians:
http://s00.yaplakal.com/pics/pics_preview/7/3/7/18737.jpg

[Shkembe Chorba]

- Give one example.

*gives 40 examples*

- Give it in pictures.

*gives it in pictures*

- Give OSCE examaples.

*gives 4 OSCE examples*

- Give more examples.

*gives 30 examples*

- I cannot understand why Russians sent only one tank.

You Baldy are also huilo, as well as your master.

http://i.imgur.com/zg4UHNT.png

[glass]

It is a fray here today. Russian special forces, supposedly unit “Vympel”, with the support of heavy machinery, have surrounded a base of the local militia battalion “Odesa.” [There were] tons of snipers. They offered to the militants to surrender, otherwise they would storm. The reason is not clear, but it looks like a cleansing. The roads to Luhansk are closed, buses can’t pass. [Russian] special forces must have entered Ukraine last night. All of them are definitely Russian professionals, they haven’t been seen here before.
Really? So this dude admits there were no russian professionals before 10th january? :rolleyes: Yet somehow ukrop troops kill at least thousand russian professionals every given week since summer or so:D

[ЛыSSый]

WANNA LOOK ON MY SHINIEST BUTTHURT? Just click here! (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?156204-Russia-does-not-take-part-in-present-civil-Disorder!&p=3342202&viewfull=1#post3342202)


dear Chorba, i'm so thankful, cause your last butthurt make me laught for some minutes.
I wanna put candle for your health in church, bit it's needs to know your name, cause i don't want to put one for a plate of soup.

and I still wanna see many-many photoes, how putin's personal troops walking in ukraine, but not a bad photoes of undefined shit from 100 meters. I'm not so goofy to beleive in this shit.

[ЛыSSый]

let me help for chorba. russia anyway must invade all forces for his satisfaction only.

1. Russian invasion in ukraine. how it was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXsXfjoZaig

2. Preparings of russian forces in airport in Rostov na Donu city

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M92Jj99ADeU

And siletnly butthurt from Chorba as conquence:

http://s016.radikal.ru/i334/1501/3e/78985b79bc31.jpg

[Shkembe Chorba]

More OSCE:


OSCE Parliamentary Assembly President Ilkka Kanerva (MP, Finland) today called on Russia to close its international border with Ukraine to help counter the alarming increase in violence in eastern Ukraine in recent weeks.

"Russian leaders have spoken of their support for a peaceful resolution to the conflict in Ukraine. In keeping with that pledge, I call on Russia to close the border to halt the flow of any weapons or fighters – whether volunteers or not – which may be entering eastern Ukraine. The advanced weaponry that is being employed by the illegal separatists in Ukraine is not appearing out of thin air," Kanerva said.

http://www.osce.org/pa/136866

[ЛыSSый]

More OSCE:
one more funny prooveless shit from OBSE, what i dig for your fun. whole joke you can read here (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?156204-Russia-does-not-take-part-in-present-civil-Disorder!&p=3346754&viewfull=1#post3346754)

Dear Chorba, it's hardly needs to have some prooves like this one


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXsXfjoZaig

[ЛыSSый]

http://s017.radikal.ru/i435/1501/67/d3eb6e748208.jpg
http://s017.radikal.ru/i425/1501/95/05b10115fb53.jpg