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Tooting Carmen
01-18-2015, 10:19 PM
Thanks to http://www.parlament.mt/membersofparliament?l=1
Carmelo Abela
http://www.sportinmalta.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Carmelo-Abela.jpg
Chris Agius
http://www.iec.ch/etech/2012/etech_0312/pic_ca/ca-3_agius_200.jpg
Owen Bonnici
http://292fc373eb1b8428f75b-7f75e5eb51943043279413a54aaa858a.r38.cf3.rackcdn.c om/local_10_temp-1374814474-51f2010a-620x348.jpg
Ian Borg
http://www.dingli.gov.mt/Library/SiteImages/Borg%20Ian.jpg
Justyne Caruana
http://cdn02.abakushost.com/pam/filerepo/images/Caruana_Justyne.jpg
Helena Dalli
http://www.maltastar.com/userfiles/image/newslead/Helena_Dalli_1.JPG
Etienne Grech
http://www.maltastar.com/userfiles/image/newslead/etrev20.jpg
Konrad Mizzi
http://cdn.tvm.com.mt/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/MIZZI-KONRAD-W.jpg
Joseph Muscat (Prime Minister)
http://cdn.tvm.com.mt/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/MUSCAT-JOSEPH-W.jpg
Deborah Schembri
http://292fc373eb1b8428f75b-7f75e5eb51943043279413a54aaa858a.r38.cf3.rackcdn.c om/local_14_1_temp-1309068204-4e06cbac-620x348.jpg
Silvio Schembri
http://di-ve.com/sites/default/files/styles/term_page_featured_top/public/article/media/Silvio%20Schembri.jpg
Edward Zammit-Lewis
http://www.independent.com.mt/uploads/filebrowser/edward%20zammit%20lewis_1.jpg
Jason Azzopardi
http://292fc373eb1b8428f75b-7f75e5eb51943043279413a54aaa858a.r38.cf3.rackcdn.c om/6e725dacfc9989f9cbf208044af21cd6553660750-1301785886-4d97ad1e-620x348.jpg
Anthony Bezzina
http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/ui_frontend/thumbnail/684/0/toni_bezzina.jpg
Charlo Bonnici
http://292fc373eb1b8428f75b-7f75e5eb51943043279413a54aaa858a.r38.cf3.rackcdn.c om/local_02_7_temp-1327478788-4f1fb804-360x251.jpg
Antoine Borg
http://c1414377.r77.cf3.rackcdn.com/media/_images/57642-750x315.jpg
Ryan Callus
https://www.gov.mt/en/Government/Government%20of%20Malta/Election%20Results/general%20elections%202013/PublishingImages/District%206/Partit%20Nazzjonalista/Callus%20Ryan.jpg
Kristy Debono
http://292fc373eb1b8428f75b-7f75e5eb51943043279413a54aaa858a.r38.cf3.rackcdn.c om/02b8a2d44959f9086fb50e0e7b84c5164096779337-1350663289-50817c79-620x348.jpg
Claudio Grech
http://292fc373eb1b8428f75b-7f75e5eb51943043279413a54aaa858a.r38.cf3.rackcdn.c om/cbb3b255c56395470ebc0e76221d2ffe-120986377-1301031173-4d8c2905-620x348.jpg
Paula Mifsud Bonnici
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/411896070528974851/tPprIf5L_400x400.jpeg
Tooting Carmen
01-18-2015, 10:22 PM
Marthese Portelli
http://www.di-ve.com/sites/default/files/styles/term_page_featured_top/public/article/media/Marthese%20Portelli.jpg
Clyde Puli
http://www.sportinmalta.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/clyde-puli.jpg
Tooting Carmen
01-18-2015, 10:23 PM
The photos are now ready.
Tooting Carmen
01-18-2015, 10:29 PM
They look varied indeed.
At this point, I should say I meant 'young' by politicians' standards, i.e. below the age of fifty. Anyway, how do they compare to Italians in your opinion?
Very interesting. They are still lighter than Lebanon.
Tooting Carmen
01-18-2015, 10:37 PM
They are still lighter than Lebanon.
Well of course, they are in Europe! (Even if at the fringes).
Tiberio
01-18-2015, 10:38 PM
Very interesting. They are still lighter than Lebanon.
Because they aren't lebanese at all and the original phoenician settlers were replaced by a large repopulation of sicilians mostly.
Well of course, they are in Europe! (Even if at the fringes).
Several people are even pretty passable outside of the South, at least pigmentation-wise.
At this point, I should say I meant 'young' by politicians' standards, i.e. below the age of fifty. Anyway, how do they compare to Italians in your opinion?
Except 4 or 5 they are more Southern-Eastern Med shifted than average Italians. Anyway some of them could pass even in Central Europe. Joseph Muscat in that pic (but not in other pics that I have seen on the web) is very similar to a friend of mine from Lombardy.
Tooting Carmen
01-18-2015, 10:41 PM
Several people are even pretty passable outside of the South, at least pigmentation-wise.
The key bit is the part in bold. Some of them still clearly look Med even when light-pigmented, especially Kristy Debono.
Peter Nirsch
01-18-2015, 10:42 PM
Most look Italians and a couple can pass as British.
Tooting Carmen
01-18-2015, 10:44 PM
Most look Italians and a couple can pass as British.
Well it was a British colony, and I'm sure some mixing did take place.
alfieb
01-18-2015, 10:44 PM
Because they aren't lebanese at all and the original phoenician settlers were replaced by a large repopulation of sicilians mostly.
Pretty much.
Peter Nirsch
01-18-2015, 10:46 PM
Well it was a British colony, and I'm sure some mixing did take place.
yes
The key bit is the part in bold. Some of them still clearly look Med even when light-pigmented, especially Kristy Debono.
I agree on Debono. These men can pass as white British
Joseph Muscat
Etienne Grech
There is also a light-eyed woman there.
dawson
01-18-2015, 10:48 PM
Very interesting. They are still lighter than Lebanon.
coz they're all part Italian
dawson
01-18-2015, 10:49 PM
the most exotic is Borg that is a Germanic surname for what I know, and most of the women are hot
Well it was a British colony, and I'm sure some mixing did take place.
Agree, btw this Brit ancestry is recent (more common probably in upper-class people?), so I guess it should be easy to find it.
Tiberio
01-18-2015, 10:50 PM
Kristy Debono imo looks East Med+Dinarid just dyed hair.
Tiberio
01-18-2015, 10:52 PM
the most exotic is Borg that is a Germanic surname for what I know, and most of the women are hot
It derived from Borgia which is the derivation of Borja.
dawson
01-18-2015, 10:53 PM
http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/ui_frontend/thumbnail/684/0/toni_bezzina.jpg
Well it was a British colony, and I'm sure some mixing did take place.
Many even have English names. Edward, Jason, Anthony, etc. No surprise, the English langauge dominates there, Maltese has become a colloquial dialect and it's mixed with English when spoken. That's what I've read.
dawson
01-18-2015, 10:53 PM
It derived from Borgia which is the derivation of Borja.
Spanish?
Tooting Carmen
01-18-2015, 10:54 PM
By comparison, here are the young MPs from Cyprus. They look noticeably more Near Eastern-shifted than the Maltese: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?111940-Young-MPs-from-Cyprus
Tiberio
01-18-2015, 10:55 PM
Spanish?
Aragonese or Catalan. It's present in Sicily Borgia.
dawson
01-18-2015, 10:55 PM
Many even have English names. Edward, Jason, Anthony, etc. No surprise, the English langauge dominates there, Maltese has become a colloquial dialect and it's mixed with English when spoken. That's what I've read.
they all even speak Italian coz they get Italian tv signal, a Maltese told me
It derived from Borgia which is the derivation of Borja.
I guess from Borgus>Borgo (abitante del borgo)
The Maltese Borg should be related to Italian Borgo/Borghi/Borghini/Borghetti/Borgese/Borghese/Borghesi...
By comparison, here are the young MPs from Cyprus. They look noticeably more Near Eastern-shifted than the Maltese: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?111940-Young-MPs-from-Cyprus
Agree.
Peter Nirsch
01-18-2015, 11:03 PM
http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/ui_frontend/thumbnail/684/0/toni_bezzina.jpg
I think it's a photomontage. Colours and shapes of his face are unnatural.
Tony Bezzina
http://www.pn.org.mt/grupp/Bezzina-Tony.jpg
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/R5dVvMVBUig/0.jpg
Joseph Muscat
Surname Muscat is related to Italian surname Moscato/Moscati/Moscatelli/Moscatini... It's a family of grapes. In Sicily there is the Moscato of Siracusa, a wine.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Joseph_Muscat_Event.JPG
Tiberio
01-18-2015, 11:18 PM
Moscato is a common sicilian surname yes.
dawson
01-18-2015, 11:19 PM
I think it's a photomontage. Colours and shapes of his face are unnatural.
he's a big guy and he's sunburnt
EvilTwinTwo
01-18-2015, 11:47 PM
Maltese are genetically identical to Sicilians, because they are descended from the same population. Malta was not highly populated until the Middle Ages.
Here is a chart from Lazaridis et al, where you can see that Sicilians, Maltese, and even the Ashkenazi all are genetically more or less the same.
http://i60.tinypic.com/23iffd0.jpg
Resistance
01-19-2015, 01:38 AM
There is zero British ancestry in Malta. The only mixed Maltese are the dispora types in Australia and Canada.
Yuffayur
01-19-2015, 09:19 PM
Mostly Meds (East, Dinaro, West and South), Alpines, Cromagnid, Atlantid and Nordid, I guess the last two are due to the british presence.
Yuffayur
01-19-2015, 09:33 PM
Joseph Muscat
Surname Muscat is related to Italian surname Moscato/Moscati/Moscatelli/Moscatini... It's a family of grapes. In Sicily there is the Moscato of Siracusa, a wine.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8a/Joseph_Muscat_Event.JPG
I know some Muscat in Belgium, I just googled it and I found that's a southern French (provençal) surname.
http://www.genealogie.com/nom-de-famille/MUSCAT.html
Tooting Carmen
01-26-2015, 11:57 PM
Lost photos:
Silvio Schembri
http://292fc373eb1b8428f75b-7f75e5eb51943043279413a54aaa858a.r38.cf3.rackcdn.c om/6206e13721da4e4bfd415c48af5ea85f3340587530-1366829641-51782a49-360x251.jpg
Marthese Portelli
https://andrewazzopardi.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/marthese-cropped-photo.jpg
I know some Muscat in Belgium, I just googled it and I found that's a southern French (provençal) surname.
http://www.genealogie.com/nom-de-famille/MUSCAT.html
Both Italian and French "Muscat/Muscato" surnames (variants included) share the same linguistic root (the grape). And in Sicily there was a little Provençal influence that dates back to the middle ages. BTW it exists also another explanation but now it's too late. :)
Ctwentysevenj
01-27-2015, 07:04 AM
There is a variation in looks.
Ctwentysevenj
01-27-2015, 07:12 AM
By comparison, here are the young MPs from Cyprus. They look noticeably more Near Eastern-shifted than the Maltese: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?111940-Young-MPs-from-Cyprus
Overall, the Maltese have a fairer complexion than the Cypriots.
Tooting Carmen
04-17-2015, 01:31 AM
Edward Zammit-Lewis
http://cdn.tvm.com.mt/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Edward-Zammit-Lewis.jpg
Ctwentysevenj
04-17-2015, 05:22 AM
Overall look European. Look more European than Lebanese. Their Prime Minister could pass in central Europe.
Mainly East-Meds, Dinaro-Meds, and few Alpine-Meds.
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