The Demographic Decline of the Bulgarian Race: An Existential Crisis

[poiuytrewq0987]

I expanded the data Tabiti posted in the Srpski section relating to the population of Bulgaria. Hopefully this will give us a better insight on the trends, and discover what went wrong and how we can solve the crisis.

1887 3 154 375 (Population of our country two years after liberation)

1900 3 744 283 (Rapid growth post-Ottoman occupation: Bulgaria grows by 589,908 in a period of 13 years)

1910 4 337 513 (Even more rapid growth: Bulgaria grows by 593,230 in just 10 years)

1926 5 478 741 (Population boom: Bulgaria grows by 1,141,228 in just 16 years)

1934 6 077 939 (Growth post-Ottoman occupation: the population grows by 2 million and half in 47 years

1946 7 029 349 (Second Population Boom: the population grows by a million in 10 years)

1965 8 227 866 (Bulgaria's population increases by a million and 200,000 after 19 years)

1985 8 948 649 (Stagnancy, the population increases by only 700,000 in the last 20 years)

1990 8 669 269 (Decline, the population drops by 300,000 in just 5 years)

1995 8 384 715 (Following the trends from 1985, population of Bulgaria drops by another 300,000)

2000 8 149 468 (Decline slows but losses still high as population of the country drops by 235,247)

2001 7 891 095 (Extreme decline, population of Bulgaria drops by 258,373 in just one year!)

2002 7 845 841

2003 7 801 273

2004 7 761 049

2005 7 720 000 (Slowed decline, population of Bulgaria drops by 171,095 in 5 years)

2006 7,679,290

2009 7,204,687 (Increased decline, Bulgaria's population drops by 515,313 in a matter of 4 years)

2050 EST. 4,500,000 (Near extinction, if our population drops this low by 2050, try imagine our population count in 2100)

[Daos]

2050 EST. 4,500,000 (Near extinction, if our population drops this low by 2050, try imagine our population count in 2100)

How is that near extinction? In 1887 there were a million less Bulgarians than the estimate for 2050, yet you didn't go extinct, in 50 years you more than doubled your numbers. I think it's wrong to assume that the population growth will maintain its trend for such a long period of time.

Also, Bulgarian race?:laugh:

[hajduk]

2050 EST. 4,500,000 (Near extinction, if our population drops this low by 2050, try imagine our population count in 2100)

500 000 bulgarians
2 500 000 Gypsies
1 000 000 Turks
500 000 others :D

[hajduk]

I know many , 18-25 year old ladies right now who are sitting in colleges, studying economics and business, law, etc.
They'll probably marry at age 40-45, and have 1 baby.
Feminists are actually the ones who degraded women, and told them that the only way to be successful is to be like a man.

[RoyBatty]

I know many , 18-25 year old ladies right now who are sitting in colleges, studying economics and business, law, etc.
They'll probably marry at age 40-45, and have 1 baby.
Feminists are actually the ones who degraded women, and told them that the only way to be successful is to be like a man.

Yes, feminism plays an important part in the New World Order's onslaught against White people through:

- the promotion of misandry (hatred of males, particularly if they are white, heterosexual and employed)
- the demands to compete with and be "equal to a man"
- the acceptance of "The State" as their provider and protector (instead of having the man fulfil this traditional role)
- the rejection of traditional values and culture in favour of "global culture"

It's pointless for the sexes to compete with one another. Both have different strengths and weaknesses. Instead they ought to complement and enhance instead of work against one another but there's no room for such beliefs in the feminist ideology of hate and depression.

[Majar]

No major population in Europe is near threat of extinction, it only threatens minorities like the Csángó and Kursenieki and tiny, tiny historical minorities.

[poiuytrewq0987]

How is that near extinction? In 1887 there were a million less Bulgarians than the estimate for 2050, yet you didn't go extinct, in 50 years you more than doubled your numbers. I think it's wrong to assume that the population growth will maintain its trend for such a long period of time.

Also, Bulgarian race?:laugh:

Yes except by 2050, Turkey will have a population of 100 million meanwhile Bulgaria will have only 4.5 million. That's a huge difference between back then and now.

[poiuytrewq0987]

500 000 bulgarians
2 500 000 Gypsies
1 000 000 Turks
500 000 others :D

By then Bulgaria will probably be occupied by the Turks again. :coffee:

[Tabiti]

Ranger, Void, how many children do you have?:rolleyes:

You know - people in glass houses...

[poiuytrewq0987]

Ranger, Void, how many children do you have?:rolleyes:

You know - people in glass houses...

I'm only 20 (and I've not found the right mate yet >.>), you're 23... you should be bearing children by now. :D

[Tabiti]

I'm only 20, you're 23... you should be bearing children by now. :D
If you are in fertile age, you should breed. That's the ideology of more radical nationalists. That means you should already have children. But not in USA.

One of the biggest mistakes is to have children because "you should" and "others do".
One of the easiest things is to spend whole day on various preservionist forums, judging all the damned "liberals, feminists, lesbians, jews, etc" who ruin your nice country.

[poiuytrewq0987]

If you are in fertile age, you should breed. That's the ideology of more radical nationalists. That means you should already have children. But not in USA.

One of the biggest mistakes is to have children because "you should" and "others do".
One of the easiest things is to spend whole day on various preservionist forums, judging all the damned "liberals, feminists, lesbians, jews, etc" who ruin your nice country.

Well, I am not telling others to breed but rather discuss the demographics crisis and what caused it. :)

I know I want to breed with someone, but who is the issue here. ;)

[Tabiti]

Not talking about you, Void. Believe me, I've seen many similar conversations and know "in which direction does the wind blow".
What caused the so called crisis? Well, people just want to be sure they could give their children better life. Only gypsies breed for the quantity, we breed for the quality. That means you must have profession, home, good income, stable job, etc. Something we see in all Europe today. BTW, in the last two years, there are more babies, especially in Sofia.

Don't mess breeding with sex;)

[poiuytrewq0987]

Not talking about you, Void. Believe me, I've seen many similar conversations and know "in which direction does the wind blow".
What caused the so called crisis?

I believe it all started when people began migrating to big cities making it more difficult for people to have more children whereas they'd be able to if they lived on farms.


Well, people just want to be sure they could give their children better life. Only gypsies breed for the quantity, we breed for the quality. That means you must have profession, home, good income, stable job, etc. Something we see in all Europe today. BTW, in the last two years, there are more babies, especially in Sofia.We're going to border a country of 100 million Muslims versus Bulgaria, a country of 4.5 million (who knows how much of that will be Bulgarians?) in 2050.

We have to enact measures that is going to drive the growth of our economy by 10-20% each year, and encourage Bulgarians to have more children. It would be preferable that we increase our numbers by 2 million each 5 years then stabilize at 25 million by 2050.

The current government, GERB is so damned incompetent, they don't have a single idea how to encourage economic growth. They're not doing shit other than cutting back on expenses, and wait for foreign investment to return when we could build upon our industry by expanding production of goods such as the defense industry, the auto industry, the steel industry, etc...


Don't mess breeding with sex;)http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/nod.gif

[Jarl]

Yup. "Looking for a good mate" for too long is selfish, egoistic and does not serve the purpose of preservationism!

[poiuytrewq0987]

Yup. "Looking for a good mate" for too long is selfish, egoistic and does not serve the purpose of preservationism!

Well I could find a girl and start breeding for the next 20 years but it would not mean anything if I add 20 children to the pool when everyone else is having only 1 or 2 children.

[Tabiti]

Void, attempts of outnumbering the "Third world" would make us Third world if you know what I mean.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Void, attempts of outnumbering the "Third world" would make us Third world if you know what I mean.

Yes of course but stabilizing out at least 25 million is much better than reduce to a tiny population of 4.5 million and who knows how many of that will be Turks, Gypsies, etc?

Our government just need to get off their rear and start doing things that would actually stimulate the economy and make Bulgaria a prosperous country similar to Sweden or Germany for example.

[Daos]

Yes of course but stabilizing out at least 25 million is much better than reduce to a tiny population of 4.5 million and who knows how many of that will be Turks, Gypsies, etc?

25 million living in an area of 110,993.6 km2? Romania has a population of around 21 million living in an area of 238,391 km2 and I think it's overcrowded... :shrug:

[bulgarian88]

I will marry a woman from abroad most definitely, am I a traitor?

[bulgarian88]

Our government just need to get off their rear and start doing things that would actually stimulate the economy and make Bulgaria a prosperous country similar to Sweden or Germany for example.
So you were a Bulgarian before and now you're a Serbian? Hmmmm

[Kurdi Mede]

I feel sorry for you Bulgarians. I hope you survive. Well if you think thats bad,you should see how man turkmens and arabs in iraqi(kurdistan). Thei trying to overrun us out.

[Cheesypie]

I feel sorry for you Bulgarians. I hope you survive. Well if you think thats bad,you should see how man turkmens and arabs in iraqi(kurdistan). Thei trying to overrun us out.

Arab Muslims overrunning indigenous cultures is okay. Haven't you heard?

[Agrippa]

Many - actually most European populations are threatened to lose their genetic and cultural base, their biological vitality and future.

Bulgarians are just no longer an example from this negative trend, which could only be changed by a systemic change, including a political, economic and societal turn to a more community-based and oriented way of life.

Inside of the Liberalcapitalist system and without a significant change, Europeans are largely doomed - altogether.

[Kurdi Mede]

Many - actually most European populations are threatened to lose their genetic and cultural base, their biological vitality and future.

Bulgarians are just no longer an example from this negative trend, which could only be changed by a systemic change, including a political, economic and societal turn to a more community-based and oriented way of life.

Inside of the Liberalcapitalist system and without a significant change, Europeans are largely doomed - altogether.

White nationalists are now starting to use the Kurds as an example and their right. We have been forced to submit to islam overtime. I mean I am a Kurd faylee, my ancestors apparently pre-18thcentury were nestorian christians and pre-6th century were zoroastrians. On top of that, Turks(mongol) invaders came and exterminated 3.5 native iranians and raped the remaniang rest.

[bulgarian88]

First, there's no such thing is a Bulgarian race! There is a Bulgarian nation,but not a race. Second, I seriously doubt it that there will be a decline.

[hajduk]

First, there's no such thing is a Bulgarian race! There is a Bulgarian nation,but not a race. Second, I seriously doubt it that there will be a decline.

Yes we will be replaced

[bulgarian88]

I know that many Bulgarian women marry abroad, but is that such a problem?

[hajduk]

There are two types of women who marry foreigners,
Mostly with western europeans and americans, and the others who mate with blacks and arabs.

And yes this is a big problem!

[bulgarian88]

Most fellow Bulgarians are getting darker and darker with each decade (by mating with gypsies and Turkish people), so it cannot be stooped. And of course they say they're fully Bulgarian, while they're mixed. Many Bulgarians already have the gypsy/Turkish genes in them...

In fact most pop-folk singers are half gypsies like Preslava:
http://www.slava.bg/images/content/5728/940601-preslava5.jpg

[Agrippa]

There are two types of women who marry foreigners,
Mostly with western europeans and americans, and the others who mate with blacks and arabs.

And yes this is a big problem!

Especially if the remaining women don't get enough children, while rather unwanted minorites and immigrants have much more offspring, while at the same time the better elements constantly leave the country and new unwanted, non-integrable immigrants enter the country.

It is, with some differences in detail, the same story almost everywhere in Europe - declining birth rates of the autochthonous people, especially the higher and middle classes, many good individuals leave, low level and very foreign (non-European) immigrants come instead...

Aging, dying, substituted - replaced.

[bulgarian88]

It's our (Bulgarian) fault, because darker people are considered more suitable for husband/wife material over here! If you're pale, you're not desired, you must go get tanned, make yourself look like a gypsy.

Even our celebrities mostly look gypsy/Turkish:
http://scandalni.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/154768.jpg
http://img2.slusham.com/nikoleta_lozanova.jpg

[hajduk]

(by mating with gypsies and Turkish people)

Mating with gypsies and turks? Lol I live in Bulgaria and never seen it.

I am not aware of any mixed marriages between Turks and bulgarians not to mention the religious barriers

Gypsies are parasites, they form the lowest social class in our society. 99% of them are dirty, poor, without education.

[bulgarian88]

Mating with gypsies and turks? Lol I live in Bulgaria and never seen it.

I am not aware of any mixed marriages between Turks and bulgarians not to mention the religious barriers

Gypsies are parasites, they form the lowest social class in our society. 99% of them are dirty, poor, without education.

Like Nikoleta Lozanova, Zlatka Dimitrova and most famous Bulgarian people are 100% Bulgarian, yeah right! Oh and what about "Gonzo", the famous footballer, he has the gypsy look too:
http://kliuki.bg/wp-content/uploads//2010/07/Gonzo1.jpg
A good footballer, but he looks gypsy.
If you think a real Bulgarian should be that dark, you must check your head.

[hajduk]

Gypsies are good singers thats why the media promotes them as role models

[bulgarian88]

Still, their music sounds like sh*t.

[bulgarian88]

ranger, then again, what's wrong with Bulgarian females wanting to marry a wealthy foreigner? I, myself want to marry a beautiful and wealthy foreign girl myself. I prefer Nordic/blond females, while Bulgarian women are too dark for my taste. So you say I must marry a Bulgarian anyway, despite I prefer something else?