FYROM City Square in Skopie

[poiuytrewq0987]

http://www.dnevnik.com.mk/WBStorage/Articles/83C6AB5121839346B4C4EE133D170C40.jpg

The Centar Municipality (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centar_Municipality_%28Skopje%29) prepares to build a 22 metres high monument of Alexander the Great (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_the_Great) riding his horse Bucephalus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucephalus) in the center of the square.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_Square#cite_note-dnev-3) According to the new mayor of the Centar municipality, Vladimir Todorović, the monument will be in the middle of a circular fountain and there will be soldiers from the Macedonian Phalanx around Alexander. The first construction works are planned to be started in May or June of 2009.[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_Square#cite_note-4)[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_Square#cite_note-dnev-3) The costs for the monument are 4.5 million Euro and it is planned to be finished until October 2010.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_Square#cite_note-dnev-3) Also busts and statues of other historical Macedonian figures are planned to be erected around the square.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_Square#cite_note-5)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_Square I want to tear down this monstrosity once I go over there (or just hijack a bus then run over the statues :D). But then again I will be probably arrested then beaten on by the fascist police over there. Although I think that would make for good publicity.

[Guapo]

I want to tear down this monstrosity once I go over there (or just hijack a bus then run over the statues :D)

Why? Are you Greek Macedonian now? :D :D

[Wildland]

Now is this wonderful news. Hopefully tourists around Europe visiting Macedonia will find this place an interesting point to view.

[Äike]

As far as I know, Slavic Macedonians(from FYROM), are not related to Alexander the Great in any possible way. Thus building such a statue is quite puzzling.

[Wildland]

As far as I know, Slavic Macedonians(from FYROM), are not related to Alexander the Great in any possible way. Thus building such a statue is quite puzzling.

One reason for the statue is to enlighten people of the history and who is related to who. Also there is no self proclaimed right, who can place a statue and where. Alexander is glorified for extending the borders of Macedonia. And that includes the borders of modern day Macedonia as Aegean. So with all rights that the name have survived until today. Slavic or no Slavic, there are no proof that a Slavic population overran the already settled population over there, more that Macedonians today speak a slavic language, have nothing to do with a 100% relation with Slavs.

[Turkophagos]

One reason for the statue is to enlighten people of the history and who is related to who. Also there is no self proclaimed right, who can place a statue and where. Alexander is glorified for extending the borders of Macedonia. And that includes the borders of modern day Macedonia as Aegean. So with all rights that the name have survived until today. Slavic or no Slavic, there are no proof that a Slavic population overran the already settled population over there, more that Macedonians today speak a slavic language, have nothing to do with a 100% relation with Slavs.

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[poiuytrewq0987]

The party's only getting started!

[Ushtari]

More that Macedonians today speak a slavic language, have nothing to do with a 100% relation with Slavs.
Then, your language should have cognates with paleobalkan words, should't it? just like Romanian.

I think you, just like some lost Bosniaks, have to accept that you are Slavs, and not some old Balkan folks who have adopted the slavic language.

(btw Bosniaks, that was NOT an insult and i do not think you are croats or serbs for that matter either)

[poiuytrewq0987]

I wonder what's the actual percentage of Slavic ancestry the "Greeks" in Macedonia proper have. I'd suspect it is significant because the Bulgarians and Serbs overran the area more than once during the medieval period.

[Vasconcelos]

I thought I'd share this news, since it relates to both Greece, Macedonia and the identity (naming) dispute.


Bulgaria's Foreign Minister Nikolay Mladenov has backed his Greek counterpart in the notorious dispute for the name of the Republic of Macedonia, according to the interpretation of the Macedonian press.

Commenting on the trilateral meeting of the Foreign Ministers of Bulgaria, Greece, and Serbia, which took place in Sofia on Saturday, the Macedonian paper "Vecer" states that Mladenov and Greek Foreign Minister Dimitris Droutsas are pressuring FYROM to make concessions to Greece; the article is entitled "Droutsas and Mladenov Seek for Us to Yield about the Name".

The notorious dispute between Macedonia and Greece led the latter to veto the former's NATO accession in 2008, and has been hindering the start of Macedonia's EU accession talks.

Greece is the reason Macedonia is listed in the UN not as "the Republic of Macedonia" but as "the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia; as an administrative region in Northern Greece is also called Macedonia, Greece is concerned that recognizing its northern neighbor under the same name would fuel territorial claims. EU and US efforts for mediating and resolving the name dispute have failed over the intransigence of the two parties.

The Macedonian "Vecer" Daily, which is known to be close to Macedonian Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski, cites the Greek top diplomat as saying that Greece would like to resolve the name dispute and see Macedonia join the EU as soon as possible but that Skopje knows very well what it has to do for that to happen.

Another leading Macedonian daily, "Dnevnik", has published almost the same article but with a different title, "Droutsas: Skopje Knows What It Has to Do to Join EU".

The almost identical articles of both dailies quote the Bulgarian Foreign Minister as declaring that Bulgaria considers the name dispute a bilateral issue between Macedonia and Greece, but that it is high time that a sensible solution be found so that Macedonia could progress.

He has reiterated the three major requirements for EU integration – the adoption of EU law, regional cooperation, and problem-free relations with neighboring countries.

The Vecer daily points out that Mladenov and Droutsas did not specify whether the Macedonia-Greece name dispute was an explicit matter of their trilateral meeting with Serbian Foreign Minister Vuk Jeremic.

The major outcome of the Mladenov-Droutsas-Jeremic talks were the declarations on part of Bulgaria and Greece that they wanted to see Serbia in the EU by 2018.

The forum comments below the articles in both Macedonian dailies are dominated by opinions describing the trilateral meeting of the foreign ministers of Bulgaria, Greece, and Serbia as "the three musketeers" and "three hungry wolves" wishing to partition the Republic of Macedonia; some forum users even see it as a reminiscence of the Balkan Wars of 1912-1913 when, according to the official view of the Skopje historians and government, the three "Balkan imperialists" formed a union to partition the spoils of Macedonia.

This view is considered offensive in Bulgaria as back at the beginning of the 20th century Bulgaria based its claims on the region of Macedonia (part of the Ottoman Empire till the First Balkan War of 1912) on the affiliation of the majority of the Macedonian population with the Bulgarian nation through ethnicity, language, religion, culture, and traditions, while Serbia and Greece sought to grab chunks of Macedonia based on the principles of balance of power under which none of the three major Balkan states – Bulgaria, Greece and Serbia – at the time was supposed to be allowed to become bigger and therefore more powerful than the others.

[Radojica]

One reason for the statue is to enlighten people of the history and who is related to who. Also there is no self proclaimed right, who can place a statue and where. Alexander is glorified for extending the borders of Macedonia. And that includes the borders of modern day Macedonia as Aegean. So with all rights that the name have survived until today. Slavic or no Slavic, there are no proof that a Slavic population overran the already settled population over there, more that Macedonians today speak a slavic language, have nothing to do with a 100% relation with Slavs.

What stupidity you just wrote here :rolleyes2:

Really, today everybody have internet :coffee:

[poiuytrewq0987]

What stupidity you just wrote here :rolleyes2:

Really, today everybody have internet :coffee:

I agree. The ancient Macedonians as we knew once as the conquerors of the known world ceased to exist after they were conquered by the Romans. Their identity amalgamated with the rest of the Greeks and became one.