Boot the Bases - Japan

[The Lawspeaker]

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Recently 90 000 protestors declared that US bases are no longer welcome on the island of Okinawa. If the voices of dissent continue, Japan and the US face a serious blow to their 50 year relationship.

[Groenewolf]

Do not have time know to watch a 20 min video. So can you tell me which group(s) are behind these demonstrations.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Do not have time know to watch a 20 min video. So can you tell me which group(s) are behind these demonstrations.

Pro-Imperial Japs who want to annex the US.

[The Lawspeaker]

Common citizens who are tired of the crime caused by drunk marines- they seem to be backed by a number of politicians including the Japanese Social Democrats.

[Psychonaut]

Common citizens who are tired of the crime caused by drunk marines- they seem to be backed by a number of politicians including the Japanese Social Democrats.

Cry me a river.

They attacked us. Not only was it an attack, but it was a sucker punch. Their "sovereignty" exists only because we are gracious winners.

[The Ripper]

Go on home Yankee soldiers, go on home. Have you got no fucking homes of your own?
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[RoyBatty]

Cry me a river.

They attacked us. Not only was it an attack, but it was a sucker punch. Their "sovereignty" exists only because we are gracious winners.

Their sovereignty doesn't exist but they still exist because you are gracious winners. :D

[The Lawspeaker]

Cry me a river.

They attacked us. Not only was it an attack, but it was a sucker punch. Their "sovereignty" exists only because we are gracious winners.
The war ended a long time ago. With such a mindset the U.S would be little better then the U.S.S.R.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Cry me a river.

They attacked us. Not only was it an attack, but it was a sucker punch. Their "sovereignty" exists only because we are gracious winners.

Really? What was that oil embargo the US placed on Japan (which inevitably forced Japan to go to war with America) then?

[RoyBatty]

Go on home Yankee soldiers, go on home. Have you got no fucking homes of your own?
:thumb001:

A substantial part of the USA's Economy is based around the War Industry. What use is a massive military when you can't use it to intimidate or control countries whilst proclaiming you're doing the world (and them) a favour by "saving" and "protecting" them? :thumb001: :D

~In order to save them from themselves we had to bomb them type logic, in other words.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Go on home Yankee soldiers, go on home. Have you got no fucking homes of your own?
:thumb001:

Black soldiers raping Japanese teens and women are also commonplace in Japan. :coffee: They do it because they know they can get away with it by just hiding out in the army base, making them essentially immune to prosecution.

[Austin]

I say we should leave China would just love it if we did. (:

[RoyBatty]

Stay or leave... one thing's for sure and that is that China is not far away from surpassing the US in most spheres... oh, except perhaps in the production of lawyers and in "social humanities" type output.

It's inevitable. They have the numbers, they have the political will and organisation (yes yes it's not democratic or free which means it is more efficient) and their universities are producing legions of engineers and scientists who may not necessarily be "the best" but they make up for this in numbers. This all means that eventually they will have to surpass the US which relies heavily on importing scientists in any case.

Their economy will grow ahead as will their influence around the globe as they buy up more and more chunks of the third world with their mountains of dollars in exchange for mining consessions and other activities.

Military power is intrinsically linked to economic, scientific and industrial capabilities. It's likely that the scale will increasingly sway in China's direction. Will they remain non-confrontational or will they start asserting themselves as the US does?

Change is coming. Who knows what it will be like.

[poiuytrewq0987]

Stay or leave... one thing's for sure and that is that China is not far away from surpassing the US in most spheres... oh, except perhaps in the production of lawyers and in "social humanities" type output.

It's inevitable. They have the numbers, they have the political will and organisation (yes yes it's not democratic or free which means it is more efficient) and their universities are producing legions of engineers and scientists who may not necessarily be "the best" but they make up for this in numbers. This all means that eventually they will have to surpass the US which relies heavily on importing scientists in any case.

Their economy will grow ahead as will their influence around the globe as they buy up more and more chunks of the third world with their mountains of dollars in exchange for mining consessions and other activities.

Change is coming. Who knows what it will be like.

China's GDP is $8 trillion compared to USA's GDP of $14 trillion. They're certainly catching up but as long as they're unable to challenge America's naval domination, they won't seriously threaten the USA's hegemony on global affairs.

But that can change. China has a huge industry today, large enough to build a very large and powerful navy. It's just a matter of actually doing it.

[SuuT]

There is no 'sensible' reason that I can think of for American military presence to extend as far, wide and nearly ubiquitous as it is... It's almost funny that America is still in Japan, actually - almost unbelievable. We'll see a lot less of American military bases in other countries upon the coming death of the god Economy, including East Asia.

[RoyBatty]

China's GDP is $8 trillion compared to USA's GDP of $14 trillion.

China aren't spending more than they earn so that 8 trillion is less subject to huge (and growing) loans as is the case with the US.



They're certainly catching up but as long as they're unable to challenge America's naval domination, they won't seriously threaten the USA's hegemony on global affairs.


Sure, there's still a sizeable technological gap and their military doesn't match the US's as things stand today. However, this is changing and is linked to China's technological and industrial advances. The more its industrial and scientific capabilities grow, the more its military capabilities will grow.



But that can change. China has a huge industry today, large enough to build a very large and powerful navy. It's just a matter of actually doing it.

I'm guessing that they're content not to try and compete for the moment and that they rather spend "modestly" on the military whilst developing their scientific / technological base in the civilian sphere which can at a later stage easily be directed towards military applications.

I'm just not convinced that this situation will remain for much longer. At some point in the next couple of decades China is quite likely going to start asserting itself if current trends persist.

[RoyBatty]

There is no 'sensible' reason that I can think of for American military presence to extend as far, wide and nearly ubiquitous as it is... It's almost funny that America is still in Japan, actually - almost unbelievable. We'll see a lot less of American military bases in other countries upon the coming death of the god Economy, including East Asia.

The reason is money, economic control, political control, military control. He who controls energy, the money supply / trade, the food supply, military matters etc controls a lot.

That's what everybody are always fighting for, being the Big Boss.

[Cato]

Are the zipperheads of Okinawa the only ones crying? What about the ones in Japan proper? Well, Okinawa was its own kingdom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ry%C5%ABky%C5%AB_Kingdom) until Meiji-tenno had the placed absorbed in the 1860s (before any U.S. bullying began, unless you count that bit with Commodore Perry and his steamships). I've always wondered why these turds are so sore- at the U.S. for being the current occupation force? At the home islands, Tokyo, and the Emperor for putting an end to Okinawa's mercantile kingdom in the Pacific? At Hideysohi Toyotomi for bullying Okinawa when he planned to attack China and Korea? At Gojira for being a menace to every city in the Pacific Rim?

Maybe the Okinawans need to go and protest Tokyo as well and let the island go back to being its own kingdom rather than part of one of the most advanced nations that the world has ever seen.

[RoyBatty]

No doubt you're right Pallamedes. They'd want to take care of the gaijin first, Tokio would be the next stop.

[Cato]

No doubt you're right Pallamedes. They'd want to take care of the gaijin first, Tokio would be the next stop.

They should want to boot the filipino sluts out too. Without the U.S. soldiers to leech off of, these trashy tramps'll go after the Okinawan men next.

[Smaland]

The US should close its bases in Japan and Korea, and bring the soldiers home.

Instead of being wasted abroad, the Army should be stationed on our southern border, to help keep out illegal aliens. They would also provide a stern reminder to the Mexican drug cartels to keep their violence on their side of the border.