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Artek
01-21-2015, 09:16 AM
According the info I got from director of archeological museum, my friend, scientists managed to reconstruct the look of a "warrior" from post-Corded Ware bronze age local culture, from site in what is now Poland - named as Strzyżów Culture.

http://d.polskatimes.pl/k/r/1/a4/0d/54beb3108f37f_p.jpg
http://d.polskatimes.pl/k/r/1/21/93/54bee2f32e6eb_p.jpg

Also mtDNA haplogroups from various other graves and pigmentation data for the "warrior" himself were obtained


U5b1
H1b
H2a
H1b
H1a
H2a
H6

"Warrior" had alleles darkish pigmentation

Full results and thesis should be available in April.

Nurzat
01-21-2015, 09:56 AM
me and my dad fully match his profile (ethnicity: West Ukrainians with South Polish ancestry). how common is this type in the region now?

Artek
01-21-2015, 12:27 PM
me and my dad fully match his profile (ethnicity: West Ukrainians with South Polish ancestry). how common is this type in the region now?
I haven't really counted people looking in such way, but they are more usual than unusual. I think that more such types are seen with younger people, because the population is undergoing debrachycephalisation.

Artek
01-24-2015, 11:31 AM
UPDATE

http://archeowiesci.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Rekonstrukcja-komputerowa.jpg
http://archeowiesci.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Rze%C5%BAba.jpg

At least two y-chromosomes were obtained! - warrior himself and a child. I made a query to know them.

Jackson
01-24-2015, 11:37 AM
Very heavy features...can't wait to see what the Y-DNA is and all the rest. :D

Graham
01-24-2015, 11:43 AM
How would you compare him to modern Polish people Artek?

Artek
01-24-2015, 11:44 AM
How would you compare him to modern Polish people Artek?
Longer headed than average but facial features from front are familiar.

Graham
01-24-2015, 11:51 AM
Longer headed than average but facial features from front are familiar.

Yeah I thought he was going to be long faced based on the profile, until I seen the picture. He looks robust, but so are many Poles. He's a fighter, it would be like comparing a ufc fighter to a normal pole today. :P

Artek
01-24-2015, 11:54 AM
Yeah I thought he was going to be long faced based on the profile, until I seen the picture. He looks robust, but so are many Poles. He's a fighter, it would be like comparing a ufc fighter to a normal pole today. :P
We have many amateur ufc fighters called "dresiarze", like british chavs or russian gopniks. He actually looks similar to many of them.

Hevo
01-24-2015, 12:01 PM
UPDATE

http://archeowiesci.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Rekonstrukcja-komputerowa.jpg
http://archeowiesci.pl/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Rze%C5%BAba.jpg


West-Baltid.

Artek
01-24-2015, 12:03 PM
West-Baltid.
With mesocephalic/dolichocephalic skull ;)

just
01-24-2015, 12:05 PM
He looks very today's Poles

Proto-Shaman
01-24-2015, 12:22 PM
Very heavy features...can't wait to see what the Y-DNA is and all the rest. :D

Doesn't matter what y-dna he has, must be Indo-European :p

Graham
01-24-2015, 12:40 PM
If they get some autosomal data for Eurogenes. This would be Polako's/Davdski's dreams. lol. ;)

Where's the latest data on where U5b1 is most common?

Hevo
01-24-2015, 12:42 PM
With mesocephalic/dolichocephalic skull ;)

Yeah, give him modern clothes and he could easily pass in Poland.

Not a Cop
01-24-2015, 12:51 PM
With mesocephalic/dolichocephalic skull ;)

Dolicho-Mesocephalic, Mesosrophic type was common among Corded-Ware tribes of N.E. Europe.

http://i052.radikal.ru/0910/44/f52aadfbe5e8.jpg

Artek
01-24-2015, 12:56 PM
Yeah, give him modern clothes and he could easily pass in Poland.
Full reconstruction of this guy(with hair, elements of reconstructed equipment found near the skeleton etc.) shall be available this April. I think I will personally visit the exhibition and do some photos :)

Not a Cop
01-24-2015, 01:05 PM
The first variant is characterized by a dolichocephalicy with a very large head length (190-196 mm), average breadth (137-141 mm), wide (135-140 mm), medium-high (68-72 mm) face and very strongly projecting nose.
This set of features is presented in Early Neolithic tribes of Latvia, tribes of Sredny Stog Ukrainian culture, Funnelbeaker culture in Poland, as well as a series of skulls from the Ladoga Canal and Caucasoid skulls of Oleny Ostrov burial ground.

Р.Я. Денисова
Anthropology of ancient and modern Balts. Moscow, 1973

I think that this guy fits more or less.