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Majar
05-14-2010, 12:11 AM
Genetic ancestry tests imperfect say researchers

Julie Steenhuysen
CHICAGO
Thu May 13, 2010 7:13pm EDT

CHICAGO (Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64C61L20100513)) - Genetic tests sold directly to consumers to help people trace their ancestry are imperfect and may lead some people to draw unfounded conclusions about their heritage, a report on the tests released on Thursday found.

More than 40 companies, including 23andMe Inc in Mountain View, California, in which Google has invested, and privately held Pathway Genomics Corp in San Diego, sell the tests to consumers.

They are not intended to provide insight into health information. Instead, the tests give a rough estimation of a person's genetic ancestry.

But the growing popularity of the tests, which are not regulated, has raised some concerns among genetic experts who fear consumers are not fully aware of their limitations.

"A major issue regarding commercial ancestry testing is that there is no quality assurance guarantee," according to a report led by researchers at Duke University on behalf of the American Society of Human Genetics and published in The American Journal of Human Genetics.

Joann Boughman, executive vice president of the American Society of Human Genetics, said genetic ancestry testing is very useful for understanding genetic differences in things like blood type or genetic diseases in large populations of people.

But they are less useful for individuals.

"If you swabbed your cheek and sent your DNA off to find out what your ancestral origins are, you would get a result back saying you are 5 percent African, 12 percent European and 70 percent Asian, or something like that," Boughman said.

"The question we want people to think about is, what does that mean? Why would I want that information?"

The group is concerned that consumers who get the test results might read too much into them.

"Sometimes there are social and political and even economic implications," Boughman said in a telephone interview. "In some states in the country, you have to prove you are a member of a specific Indian tribe to have access to either land or earnings from investments even in casinos.

"One of the ways you would supposedly be able to prove or disprove you were from that tribe is through this genetic ancestry testing," she said.

A negative result could mean that those genes had been lost in an individual's line because parents only pass along half of their genes to their children, she said.

Spokesmen for Pathway and 23andMe Inc could not be immediately reached for comment.

Boughman said genetic ancestry testing is different from direct-to-consumer genetic tests for health information, but the group has concerns about those too.

Walgreen Co this week planned to distribute genetic health tests from Pathway Genomics in its stores, but put those plans on hold after the U.S. Food and Drug Administration expressed concerns that the tests were not approved by the agency.

Cato
05-14-2010, 02:04 AM
Genetic testing, useful in determining if someone has Neander DNA, less useful in determining one's immediate ancestors.

Grumpy Cat
05-14-2010, 02:20 AM
Yeah, I already know who my ancestors were for the most part (my paternal grandfather was adopted, though)... I just ordered one out of curiosity.

Electronic God-Man
05-14-2010, 02:50 AM
Genetic tests sold directly to consumers to help people trace their ancestry are imperfect

What isn't?


and may lead some people to draw unfounded conclusions about their heritage, a report on the tests released on Thursday found.

Sure. But that's a problem on the customer's end, not with the test.


They are not intended to provide insight into health information.

I believe 23andme started out doing DNA tests for health information reasons.


But the growing popularity of the tests, which are not regulated, has raised some concerns among genetic experts who fear consumers are not fully aware of their limitations.

Customer problem, not the test.


"A major issue regarding commercial ancestry testing is that there is no quality assurance guarantee," according to a report led by researchers at Duke University on behalf of the American Society of Human Genetics and published in The American Journal of Human Genetics.

Agreed. Not all DNA testing companies are the same though. Not by a long shot. For instance, the company that tested Larry David (and all the other people on that Lopez show) said that he was a huge percentage Native American...which is simply not true. If you ask around and do some research you find out pretty quickly which companies offer quality tests and which are regarded as trash. So, like everything else, it's best to get some information first.


Joann Boughman, executive vice president of the American Society of Human Genetics, said genetic ancestry testing is very useful for understanding genetic differences in things like blood type or genetic diseases in large populations of people.

But they are less useful for individuals.

"If you swabbed your cheek and sent your DNA off to find out what your ancestral origins are, you would get a result back saying you are 5 percent African, 12 percent European and 70 percent Asian, or something like that," Boughman said.


If you were wondering roughly how much Asian, European and African you were then that sounds like it's useful. But that's definitely not all that you get with a lot of these tests.


"The question we want people to think about is, what does that mean? Why would I want that information?"

Cool.


The group is concerned that consumers who get the test results might read too much into them.

Customer problem again. Like the Middle Easterners getting "100% European" and then thinking that they are white or the retards who find they have a certain haplogroup found most commonly in a certain region and then thinking that this means that they are of that same ethnicity. Actually, that last example seems to be most prevalent amongst African Americans. They get their Y-DNA or mtDNA results and then say "Oh, this is most commonly found in populations in Cameroon...I'm Cameroonian."


"Sometimes there are social and political and even economic implications," Boughman said in a telephone interview. "In some states in the country, you have to prove you are a member of a specific Indian tribe to have access to either land or earnings from investments even in casinos.

"One of the ways you would supposedly be able to prove or disprove you were from that tribe is through this genetic ancestry testing," she said.

Ha. Most people aren't getting tested so they can open a casino...but I suppose some are.


A negative result could mean that those genes had been lost in an individual's line because parents only pass along half of their genes to their children, she said.

Yep and if people know anything about genetics they would understand this.

Basically, all of this boils down to customers themselves not understanding what the tests mean. I see it all the time, but that doesn't mean the DNA testing companies are necessarily to blame.

Jägerstaffel
05-14-2010, 03:24 AM
So does this mean Soten IS a gypsy or isn't a gypsy?

Someone clarify.

Electronic God-Man
05-14-2010, 03:29 AM
So does this mean Soten IS a gypsy or isn't a gypsy?

Someone clarify.

I'm pretty sure Ead made it all very clear what I am... :D


1.Pennersylvanias
2.Rednecks with no Culture
3.Nazi´s from the United States
4.Drunkyards
5.People which can´t speak German but pretend to judge above other.

Bloodeagle
05-14-2010, 03:36 AM
Call me old fashioned but knowing my haplogroup, is as far as I wish to venture, for now.
I feel that the technology is still to young.
The haplogroups themselves are still being modified as new values are being given to existing dys values.

Beorn
05-14-2010, 03:43 AM
Haplogroups? Phenotypes?

They are all parlour games or passing interests with which to become monetarily infatuated with. The 'real deal' is that your mother and father, and your mothers and fathers mothers and fathers were given forth into your homeland by their mothers and fathers mothers and fathers.

Blood only goes so far. ;)

Guapo
05-14-2010, 04:03 AM
Haplogroups? Phenotypes?

They are all parlour games or passing interests with which to become monetarily infatuated with. The 'real deal' is that your mother and father, and your mothers and fathers mothers and fathers were given forth into your homeland by their mothers and fathers mothers and fathers.

Blood only goes so far. ;)

It's all BS to the older generations. Language and culture is what bound ethnicities together, not "blood" or "haplogroups" or "phenotypes". A nation without a language is a nation without a heart.

Electronic God-Man
05-14-2010, 04:04 AM
It's all BS to the older generations. Language and culture is what bound ethnicities together, not "blood" or "haplogroups" or "phenotypes". A nation without a language is a nation without a heart.

Fine. Let's all just speak American English and be Americans.

Oh wait... :D

Pallantides
05-14-2010, 04:55 AM
The results from 23andMe have been accurated enough for me.

Treffie
05-14-2010, 08:18 AM
Genetic tests sold directly to consumers to help people trace their ancestry are imperfect

That's why I waited for the price to come down :cool:

Vulpix
05-14-2010, 10:19 AM
Is someone butthurt they missed the $99 23andme deal :D?? j/k :swl

Allenson
05-14-2010, 02:04 PM
Is someone butthurt they missed the $99 23andme deal :D?? j/k :swl

I am. :mad: