Proposed new flag of Sicily

[Tacitus]

Thoughts? :laugh:

http://s17.postimg.org/6ragdvggf/sicilyflag.png

Since I'm part-Sicilian myself, it's totally OK for me to troll like this.

[StonyArabia]

Actually that looks quite nice to be honest, i don't anything wrong with it.

[alfieb]

Trolling aside, Sicily's flag is 700 years old. The only other flag I would accept is the traditional Kingdom of Sicily flag quartered with that of Aragon, since it is almost as old.

Even that ugly Neapolitan "Two Sicilies" white flag, I wouldn't use to wipe my ass.

[wvwvw]

I don't like the Sicilian and Sardinian flags at all. There are other regions in Italy that have much cooler flags

[Ulla]

I don't like the Sicilian and Sardinian flags at all. There are other regions in Italy that have much cooler flags

Which ones?

[Trun]

Remove the cedrus with a kebab and it would even better.

[wvwvw]

Piedmont's flag and a few other regions' that I can't remember. I remember Peyrol posting them.

[wvwvw]

Remove the cedrus with a kebab and it would even better.

I don't like the yellow/reddish color and the Medusa that looks like an Indian godess :D

[Carignan]

My proposal:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/949112SicilyFlag2.gif (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=949112SicilyFlag2.gif)

I like the Sicilian Eagle. Some Sicilians may not like because of a remindal of the Aragonese control over Sicily

[wvwvw]

Remove the cedrus with a kebab and it would even better.

Kebab (food) is more common in Bulgaria than Sicily though

[alfieb]

My proposal:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/949112SicilyFlag2.gif (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=949112SicilyFlag2.gif)

I like the Sicilian Eagle. Some Sicilians may not like because of a remindal of the Aragonese control over Sicily

Like I said, I would accept that flag, but not others.


I don't like the yellow/reddish color and the Medusa that looks like an Indian godess :D

Byzantine flag used same colors... Roman colors.

Enjoy your blue and white of Bavarians.

[Ulla]

I don't like the yellow/reddish color and the Medusa that looks like an Indian godess :D

Yellow/reddish probably are related to crown of Aragona, and the Medusa is a Triskelion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triskelion

[wvwvw]

My proposal:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/949112SicilyFlag2.gif (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=949112SicilyFlag2.gif)

I like the Sicilian Eagle. Some Sicilians may not like because of a remindal of the Aragonese control over Sicily

That looks actually very nice :thumbs up

[Beit El]

Made this for you.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/2cnuqms.jpg

[wvwvw]

Like I said, I would accept that flag, but not others.



Byzantine flag used same colors... Roman colors.

Enjoy your blue and white of Bavarians.

The blue and white colors suit Greece perfectly as Greece is associated with blue sea and sky.

It's not the colors that are bad but the strips and also that Medusa caricature that looks Hindish

[Daniele90]

I actually find the Italian current and historical Sicilian flags quite beautiful; it's gold and has a real historical basis, esp. when compared to many current Italian administrative flags..

The Sicilian, Sardinian, Venetian, Tuscan and Sardinian flags are the best ones (esp. the historical ones and not the slightly more uglyfied administrative ones).. the rest goes from mediocre (Campania, Lombardia) to just horrible (Lazio, Liguria)

The Piemontese and South Tyrolese ones too are not that bad

[alfieb]

I like Sardinian flag but I do not like that the moors are not blindfolded anymore due to political correctness.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Bandiera_del_Regno_di_Sicilia_4.svg/897px-Bandiera_del_Regno_di_Sicilia_4.svg.png

And this is obviously the best flag.

[Yuffayur]

Made this for you.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/2cnuqms.jpg

You should add a little motto in the flag "everyone passes here"

[Tacitus]

I actually find the Italian current and historical Sicilian flags quite beautiful; it's gold and has a real historical basis, esp. when compared to many current Italian administrative flags..

The Sicilian, Sardinian, Venetian, Tuscan and Sardinian flags are the best ones (esp. the historical ones and not the slightly more uglyfied administrative ones).. the rest goes from mediocre (Campania, Lombardia) to just horrible (Lazio, Liguria)

The Piemontese and South Tyrolese ones too are not that bad

This, although I prefer the Piemontese and Friuli-Venezia Giulia flags to the Tuscan one (still nice though).

[alfieb]

You should add a little motto in the flag "everyone passes here"

Everyone from Sweden to Sudan.

[wvwvw]

I like Sardinian flag but I do not like that the moors are not blindfolded anymore due to political correctness.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Bandiera_del_Regno_di_Sicilia_4.svg/897px-Bandiera_del_Regno_di_Sicilia_4.svg.png

And this is obviously the best flag.

lol the eagles in that flag look like chickens :picard2: The ugliest eagles I have ever seen in a flag

Carignan's eagles look classy by comparison

[Carignan]

How do Sicilians perceive the Aragonese ''occupation''? Has Aragon contributed a lot to the Sicilian culture and ''genetic pool''?

[Daniele90]

This, although I prefer the Piemontese and Friuli-Venezia Giulia flags to the Tuscan one (still nice though).
The FVG one is not bad, as well (although suffered some "uglyfication"
The Apulian one (my region; esp. with the "Regione Puglia" inscription added to it!) looks cheaper, but still not as bad as Calabria, Basilicata, Marche, Umbria (more pearls!)

God, we've been great at screwing up regional symbols it seems..

[alfieb]

How do Sicilians perceive the Aragonese ''occupation''? Has Aragon contributed a lot to the Sicilian culture and ''genetic pool''?

Gene pool no. Very little. A handful of surnames and a couple of towns named after them.

Mostly, the Aragonese (and later Spanish) period brought stability, a lot of building, and some crops from the new world.

The periods that people talk about the least favorably are the Anjou and Bourbon.

[Carignan]

Gene pool no. Very little. A handful of surnames and a couple of towns named after them.

Mostly, the Aragonese period brought stability, a lot of building, and some crops from the new world.

The periods that people talk about the least favorably are the Anjou and Bourbon.

Would a majority vote for that flag or it would be met with hostily from Sicilian nationalist?

[Daniele90]

It's better to stay with the "trinacria" (a very old symbol) as odd as it may appear to some..
The eagle theme is just way overused

[alfieb]

Would a majority vote for that flag or it would be met with hostily from Sicilian nationalist?
No flag change would be approved by a majority. Sicilians and the trinacria symbol are synonymous. Very proud of our flag.

Sicilian nationalists use

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/38/Sicily_Independence_Movement_%281943%29.png/300px-Sicily_Independence_Movement_%281943%29.png

But if Sicily were an independent state I think they would not wish to change the flag. I think the nationalist flag is more a political flag.

[Yuffayur]

Everyone from Sweden to Sudan.

Swedes pass in the western part, Sudanese in the east part.

[alfieb]

Swedes pass in the western part, Sudanese in the east part.

Nah. Both in the Western part. Eastern part looks like Greeks.

[Comte Arnau]

Gene pool no. Very little. A handful of surnames and a couple of towns named after them.

Mostly, the Aragonese (and later Spanish) period brought stability, a lot of building, and some crops from the new world.


And a number of Catalan words into Sicilian, although very far from the relevance it had in Sardinian.

[Volscian]

Remove the cedrus with a chakra and it would even better.

Fixed.
On Apricity Sicily is just another state of India. Una faccia, una razza. :picard2:

[Sikeliot]

I'd rather nothing with colors that remind of Spain.

I am fine with the current Sicilian flag but I'd change the colors for the aforementioned reason.

[SupaThug]

I'd rather nothing with colors that remind of Spain.

I am fine with the current Sicilian flag but I'd change the colors for the aforementioned reason.

What's wrong with Spain?

[Sikeliot]

What's wrong with Spain?

Just not a nation I would want to have anything to do with, at least not with regard to their role in Sicilian history. I'd embrace the blondest Norman before I would a Spaniard.

[SupaThug]

Just not a nation I would want to have anything to do with, at least not with regard to their role in Sicilian history. I'd embrace the blondest Norman before I would a Spaniard.

I don't understand it,but it's ok!What have the aragonese done in Sicily(I am sorry for my ignorance)?

[Sikeliot]

I don't understand it,but it's ok!What have the aragonese done in Sicily(I am sorry for my ignorance)?

Spanish inquisition extended to there, and they fucked up the economy.

[SupaThug]

Spanish inquisition extended to there, and they fucked up the economy.

I still don't understand.So you dislike the current flag?

[Sikeliot]

I still don't understand.So you dislike the current flag?

I like it but I wish the colors were different.

[Mens-Sarda]

I like Sardinian flag but I do not like that the moors are not blindfolded anymore due to political correctness.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0a/Bandiera_del_Regno_di_Sicilia_4.svg/897px-Bandiera_del_Regno_di_Sicilia_4.svg.png

And this is obviously the best flag.


the blindfolded Moors were a mistake done at the beginning of Piedmontese government in Sardinia, in origin they were not blindfolded, the regional goverment restored the correct flag few years ago

this was the old (wrong) flag

http://www.guidesardegna.it/foto/bandiera-quattro-mori.jpg

this is the correct original flag

http://i.res.24o.it/images2010/SoleOnLine5/_Immagini/ArticleGallery/Notizie/2013/scuola-minoranze-linguistiche/bandiera-sardegna-672.jpg?uuid=bb4439a6-2520-11e3-8167-fe12d6a58d86

[alfieb]

the blindfolded Moors were a mistake done at the beginning of Piedmontese government in Sardinia, in origin they were not blindfolded, the regional goverment restored the correct flag few years ago

this was the old (wrong) flag

http://www.guidesardegna.it/foto/bandiera-quattro-mori.jpg

this is the correct flag

http://i.res.24o.it/images2010/SoleOnLine5/_Immagini/ArticleGallery/Notizie/2013/scuola-minoranze-linguistiche/bandiera-sardegna-672.jpg?uuid=bb4439a6-2520-11e3-8167-fe12d6a58d86

Then why do nationalist parties such as PSd'Az use the blindfolded Moors flag?

[Mens-Sarda]

Then why do nationalist parties such as PSd'Az use the blindfolded Moors flag?

habit, tradition, bureaucracy, difficulty to modify a party symbol, honestly I don't know, but the blindfolded Moors appeared during the Piedmontese government, before that period the were not blindfolded, also the single Moor on Corsican flag is not blindfolded, or the Moors on the Aragonese flag


however the PSd'Az among the various nationalist parties is the less nationalist, others usually use the not blindfolded flag, or totally reject it because the Moors flag has Aragonese origin, others use the Arborea crest on the flag (Arborea was one of the four Sardinian nations before the Aragonese conquest)



flag with Arborea crest
http://www.bandieredeipopoli.com/images/altripopoli/statiche/moimentu%20_irs.jpg

[alfieb]

habit, tradition, bureaucracy, difficulty to modify a party symbol, honestly I don't know, but the blindfolded Moors appeared during the Piedmontese government, before that period the were not blindfolded, also the single Moor on Corsican flag is not blindfolded, or the Moors on the Aragonese flag


This was the Corsican flag before 1755

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/57/Flag_of_Corsica_%28before_1755%29.svg/500px-Flag_of_Corsica_%28before_1755%29.svg.png

[Mens-Sarda]

this is what Wikipedia says, I think that Corsican flag had a similar history and was depicted in various ways according to the various artist who depicted it :

Over the centuries the flag or coat of arms of the four Moors were depicted in various ways: without bandage, with blindfold or forehead, facing to luff or to fly end, or crowned, with no moors, in reverse, and this according to the mode of the charged artist, such as that under the leadership of Diego Velázquez (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Vel%C3%A1zquez) and Francisco de Zurbaran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_de_Zurbaran) represented in the Palacio del Buen Retiro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palacio_del_Buen_Retiro) in Madrid. Throughout the period of the Iberian monarchies the original design of the bandages on his forehead is respected.
During the Savoy House domain in the mid-18th century, instead, the iconography of putting the blindfold over the eyes of the moors settled and continued to persist until 1999, within the flag of St. George, in every quarter and in the direction of the luff. The Coat of Arms of the Kingdom of Sardinia clearly leads the four moors with the bandage on their foreheads. The blindfold appears in 1800: a probable error of a copyist or a deliberate "error" in protest. In 1952, the shield of the blindfolded eyes quattro mori became the official flag of the Autonomous Region and also adorned his banner (Decree of the President of the Republic of July 5, 1952). In 1999, a special regional law changed the flag of the Four Moors from the Kingdom of Sardinia-Savoy version to that original one as described in the introduction.

[alfieb]

Interesting. The Trinacria flag likewise varied over the centuries between whether red or yellow was on top or bottom.

[Alexandros]

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/201/d/2/Flag_of_Magna_Graecia_by_CaptainVoda.png

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/227/9/8/Greece___flag_by_Neethis.png

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/253/5/6/flag_request_by_fenn_o_manic-d5e7d2e.png

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/147/4/8/greece_alt__flag_by_romaniatricolor-d5cv9wu.png

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/082/e/a/flag_of_macedonia_by_makedon74er-d4tnqga.jpg


And the next step :cool: :
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs50/i/2009/276/4/2/Greek_flag_by_Stathis.jpg

[alfieb]

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/201/d/2/Flag_of_Magna_Graecia_by_CaptainVoda.png

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/227/9/8/Greece___flag_by_Neethis.png

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/253/5/6/flag_request_by_fenn_o_manic-d5e7d2e.png

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/147/4/8/greece_alt__flag_by_romaniatricolor-d5cv9wu.png

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/082/e/a/flag_of_macedonia_by_makedon74er-d4tnqga.jpg


And the next step :cool: :
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs50/i/2009/276/4/2/Greek_flag_by_Stathis.jpg

Sad that you post a half-dozen flags and the one that your country actually uses is the ugliest of the bunch.

[Alexandros]

Sad that you post a half-dozen flags and the one that your country actually uses is the ugliest of the bunch.

:bored:

[alfieb]

:bored:

I love Greece as much as the next wog obsessed with history, but the flag is boring. Every Byzantine-era flag I've seen would be an improvement.

[Daniele90]

Ugliest of the bunch, the Greek one?
It's one of the best in Europe..

And it doesn't look tacky, unlike some European flags