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Ryujin
01-22-2015, 08:27 PM
Yemeni government has resigned over a Shi'a rebellion. Hail the revolution, because once again wahhabi Sunni islamists and Saudi Arabia have lost a front in the region!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/22/yemeni-government-quits-houthi-rebellion

Ryujin
01-23-2015, 01:08 AM
Hahahahaha, Saudi king has just kicked the bucket. He must have had a heart attack due to the shock! :D

Kamal900
01-23-2015, 01:20 AM
Its good news that Yemen would finally get a government that neither a puppet to Saudi Arabia or the western world. I pray that Bahraini revolution that is still on going today would finally oust the US backed Sunni dictator from Bahrain once and for all.

StonyArabia
01-23-2015, 02:47 PM
Its good news that Yemen would finally get a government that neither a puppet to Saudi Arabia or the western world. I pray that Bahraini revolution that is still on going today would finally oust the US backed Sunni dictator from Bahrain once and for all.

Houthis are for your info fighting the secular Zaydis who oppose them, and yeah having Iranian backed dictator is better? There is no revolution in Bahrain, just Iran meddling in affairs that does not concern it. The original revolution was rather indeed for reform but it was also hijacked by Islamists and Iran. If they get in power the Al-Wafaq will make Bahrain into a mini Iran, yea really wonderful world we will be living in, yet the monarchy is secular and has accepted many Jewish refugees and Christians before.

Böri
03-10-2015, 11:14 PM
This is like another victory of Iran in the ME. Yemen government is pathetic. Yemen can be divided in two or three separate countries.

Marusya
03-10-2015, 11:28 PM
Yemen’s descent into chaos

The U.S. recently closed its embassy in Yemen, after Houthi rebels took the capital. Where is the country headed?

http://i60.tinypic.com/120i2pf.jpg
Exultant Houthi rebels in Sanaa

Why is Yemen such a mess?

Yemen, the poorest Arab country, has never been stable. It was formed in 1990 after multiple wars between the two distinct nations of North Yemen, once part of the Ottoman Empire, and South Yemen, a former British colony later allied with the Soviet Union. The country is inherently unbalanced, since the oil reserves are in the south, while the political clout is centered in the north. Various tribes control turf in both regions. The south launched a brief civil war against the north in 1994 and sporadic rebellions since, while northern tribes—including the Houthis—have battled among themselves. The lawlessness and poverty make the country ripe for extremist recruiting. In 2009, Islamist terrorists there created a group they called al Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula.

What has this al Qaida group done?

Its list of attacks on U.S. interests is long. In 2000, al Qaida militants bombed the USS Cole in the Yemeni port of Aden, killing 17 sailors and injuring 39. Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen born in New Mexico to Yemeni immigrants, fled to Yemen in 2004 after being investigated for connections to the 9/11 attackers. There he became involved with a terrorist cell that radicalized failed underwear bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, Fort Hood shooter Nidal Malik Hasan, and accused Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. In 2011, al-Awlaki became the first American citizen to be assassinated by a CIA drone strike. The English-language online al Qaida magazine Inspire that al-Awlaki helped set up is still based there, urging Muslims to engage in jihad. The Yemeni government, under Ali Abdullah Saleh and then under Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi, has long opposed and fought al Qaida, and cooperated with U.S. drone strikes on militants. Now that the Houthis are in charge, that cooperation is in jeopardy.

Who are the Houthis?

Led by the al-Houthi family, they now head the Shiite Zaydi sect, a minority in the mainly Sunni country. Zaydis trace their lineage to the Prophet Mohammed, and they have ruled the northern Yemeni highlands for centuries. After Yemen was formed, the Houthis felt that Saleh marginalized their sect and usurped control of their territory. So in the early 2000s they took to arms, battling Saleh’s forces with little success. Their big chance came with the Arab Spring in 2011, when Sunni Islamists, pro-democracy students, and southern Sunni tribes joined forces with the Houthis and held massive protests calling for Saleh to step down. But when Saleh’s vice president, Hadi, took over, Houthis believed they had been shut out of the power-sharing agreement. They soon took up arms again and have now driven Hadi from power and taken over the capital.

Who are their allies?

That’s unclear. The Houthis hate the U.S.—part of their slogan is “Death to America, death to the Jews”—but they also oppose the Sunni extremists in al Qaida. Still, in the chaos that is Yemen, alliances can shift quickly. Some Western analysts believe that the Houthis are getting weapons and money from Shiite Iran. Strangely enough, some Yemeni analysts say the Houthis have been backed at least tacitly by their old enemy Saleh. The ex-president was furious with his successor, Hadi, for abolishing the Republican Guard, a powerful militia headed by Saleh’s son Ahmed. Western diplomats and Yemeni politicians say that Saleh is plotting to return as the national leader and has made a deal with the Houthis to help him do that.

Can the Houthis stabilize the country?

Probably not. Last week, the U.N. brokered a power-sharing accord between the Houthis and other parties, with a legislature that allocates some seats to all the various tribes. But the scheme looks shaky, and it’s unclear whether Yemen’s Sunni neighbors will allow the Shiite minority group to retain so much power. The Gulf Cooperation Council has said it wants the U.N. to authorize military force to reverse what it calls “the Houthis’ illegitimate seizure of power,” saying that the GCC states of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, Oman, and the United Arab Emirates might intervene.

What does this mean for the U.S.?

The continued chaos is breeding even more extremism. The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, has started recruiting in several Yemeni towns, and some al Qaida supporters have reportedly switched allegiance to ISIS. But al Qaida is still the main threat. The Houthi coup has actually helped al Qaida’s propaganda efforts in Yemen, since the terrorist group can portray itself as the guardian of the Sunni majority against the Shiite usurpers. “The Houthi takeover has resulted in al Qaida’s best recruitment drive in years,” said analyst Ahmed al-Zurqa. While the U.S. has shut its embassy in Sanaa, it hasn’t withdrawn special forces on the ground, and drone strikes against al Qaida targets are continuing. Yemen may not have a functioning central government, but it still has an independent army, and U.S. forces are still training and conducting missions with Yemeni soldiers. “We’re monitoring [Yemen] every single day,” said Pentagon spokesman Rear Adm. John Kirby, “if not every single hour.”

The U.S.A.’s deadly drone war

The U.S. has launched more than 100 drone strikes in Yemen since 2002, killing close to 900 militants, including Anwar al-Awlaki, whom U.S. counterterrorism officials called “the most dangerous man in the world.’’ But dozens of civilians have also died. While most Yemenis want to see al Qaida driven from their territory, the strikes have stoked strong anti-American feeling. President Obama said missiles are fired only when there is “near certainty that no civilians will be killed or injured,” but from the air, it can be difficult, if not impossible, to discern every person’s identity. Many Yemenis believe that the Saleh and then Hadi governments often gave the U.S. names of their political enemies and identified them as terrorists. “Every time they kill an innocent person,” said drone victims’ advocate Mohamed al-Qawli, “they motivate the families to join al Qaida.”

--March 6, 2015 THE WEEK

Marusya
03-10-2015, 11:51 PM
This is like another victory of Iran in the ME. Yemen government is pathetic. Yemen can be divided in two or three separate countries.

The article I posted seems to support your view.

Böri
03-10-2015, 11:53 PM
The article I posted seems to support your view.

Exactly. Houthis and Al Qaeda fight there and the passive government is watching.

N1019
03-11-2015, 01:32 AM
Houthis are for your info fighting the secular Zaydis who oppose them, and yeah having Iranian backed dictator is better? There is no revolution in Bahrain, just Iran meddling in affairs that does not concern it. The original revolution was rather indeed for reform but it was also hijacked by Islamists and Iran. If they get in power the Al-Wafaq will make Bahrain into a mini Iran, yea really wonderful world we will be living in, yet the monarchy is secular and has accepted many Jewish refugees and Christians before.

Some people are so blinded by human rights issues with Saudi Arabia, Israel etc that they actually believe the Islamic Republic of Iran - in its current form - is a better alternative as regional hegemon to the US allies, and they cheer every time an Iran-backed anti-US force appears to score a victory. This is particularly irritating when it comes from Western leftists who know very little about Iran, casting it as the polar opposite to Saudi Arabia on some obscure scale of national goodness while completely ignoring its own human rights abuses and geopolitical agenda. The IR Iran is better than KSA in some ways, but it's hardly a force for good overall.

Yemen under a secular or semi-secular autocracy is definitely a better option.

Nebuchadnezzar
03-11-2015, 01:48 AM
Some people are so blinded by human rights issues with Saudi Arabia, Israel etc that they actually believe the Islamic Republic of Iran - in its current form - is a better alternative as regional hegemon to the US allies, and they cheer every time an Iran-backed anti-US force appears to score a victory. This is particularly irritating when it comes from Western leftists who know very little about Iran, casting it as the polar opposite to Saudi Arabia on some obscure scale of national goodness while completely ignoring its own human rights abuses and geopolitical agenda. The IR Iran is better than KSA in some ways, but it's hardly a force for good overall.

Yemen under a secular or semi-secular autocracy is definitely a better option.

Yeah sure, Iran is a theocracy, not exactly the best country for human rights

But still
Iran
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/images/i/ip%20it/iran_women/iran_women_16x9.jpg

Saudi Arabia
http://www.mediawatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/saudi-women1.jpg


Besides, Iran changes it's president once every 4 years, for beginners they have a parlimant that represents minorities..... try to tell that to Saudis dynasty, and it's 80+ year old ruling Dinosaur relics.

N1019
03-11-2015, 02:22 AM
Yeah sure, Iran is a theocracy, not exactly the best country for human rights

But still
Iran
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/research/images/i/ip%20it/iran_women/iran_women_16x9.jpg

Saudi Arabia
http://www.mediawatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/saudi-women1.jpg


Besides, Iran changes it's president once every 4 years, for beginners they have a parlimant that represents minorities..... try to tell that to Saudis dynasty, and it's 80+ year old ruling Dinosaur relics.

This illustrates my point quite well. Is Iran better than KSA in some ways? Yes. Are they polar opposities? Hardly.

Iranian politics is far from free and representative. Those minority reps are pretty powerless and in practice minorities are not guaranteed equal rights. The country is run by the clerical-IRGC complex and cronies, the parliament has "some" power but it's neither free nor in charge. Political activities are regulated to minimize threats to the current power structure. Threats to their gravy train are often dismissed as agents of America and imprisoned. The people are unwilling to act because they know they will get shot on the streets... but, by Jove, the women are beautiful!