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Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 05:49 AM
Yulia Alipova, 24 years old, 1.80 cm's tall (5'11), birthplace: Balakovo, Russia:
http://i.imgur.com/kmB0N9e.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hnfPdB5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8rskT6D.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PyawhKM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lPQVDs0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SMem9yA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/enn3eop.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ll1Xx4Y.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/EzC9n5Q.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4DckkRq.jpg

glass
01-24-2015, 05:56 AM
tatarid duckfacid

Unome
01-24-2015, 05:58 AM
tatarid duckfacid
http://www.duckfacedivas.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/duckface-divas-16.jpg

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 06:00 AM
tatarid duckfacid

She's full ethnic Russian, take your Tatar obsession elsewhere.

Shah-Jehan
01-24-2015, 06:01 AM
tatarid duckfacid

some people claimed she was fully Russian on some other thread. It would be pecualiar considering the surname and also the general look.

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 06:03 AM
some people claimed she was fully Russian on some other thread. It would be pecualiar considering the surname and also the general look.

She is fully Russian and Christian. Nothing unusual about her look. Alipova is not Islamic,

Leto
01-24-2015, 06:06 AM
tatarid duckfacid
Fully caucasoid.

Shah-Jehan
01-24-2015, 06:06 AM
She is fully Russian and Christian. Nothing unusual about her look. Alipova is not Islamic,

Her religion does not matter, She is very unusual looking for an ethnic Russian, very atypical even if she's actually Russian.

just
01-24-2015, 06:07 AM
Вот информация по фамилии Алипов:
Должно быть, старое русское имя Алипий (разговорная форма Алип) было и в свое время не очень популярно, если сохранилось лишь в немногих фамилиях: Алипанов, Алипов, Алипьев. Смысл имени, а следовательно, и фамилии в переводе с греческого – ‘беспечальный’. (Источник: «Энциклопедия русских фамилий. Тайны происхождения и значения.» Ведина Т.Ф., М.: АСТ, 2008.)

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 06:08 AM
Her religion does not matter, She is very unusual looking for an ethnic Russian, very atypical even if she's actually Russian.

I can post you 20 ethnic Russian models that look like her, stop with the bullshit and walk->

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 06:09 AM
Вот информация по фамилии Алипов:
Должно быть, старое русское имя Алипий (разговорная форма Алип) было и в свое время не очень популярно, если сохранилось лишь в немногих фамилиях: Алипанов, Алипов, Алипьев. Смысл имени, а следовательно, и фамилии в переводе с греческого – ‘беспечальный’. (Источник: «Энциклопедия русских фамилий. Тайны происхождения и значения.» Ведина Т.Ф., М.: АСТ, 2008.)

Spasibo!

Veneda
01-24-2015, 06:09 AM
Niet, po moyemu ona nie Russkaya

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 06:11 AM
Niet, po moyemu ona nie Russkaya

Pochemu? Ona 100 % Rossii.

just
01-24-2015, 06:11 AM
есть фото, где Юлия Алипова с отцом.

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9930/32747970.f/0_a5324_2ffbf05c_XL.jpg

Leto
01-24-2015, 06:13 AM
Niet, po moyemu ona nie Russkaya
She is acceptable in my book. White.

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 06:14 AM
есть фото, где Юлия Алипова с отцом.

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9930/32747970.f/0_a5324_2ffbf05c_XL.jpg

Very Russian look, especially her! :love:

Veneda
01-24-2015, 06:17 AM
Pochemu? Ona 100 % Rossii.

Potomu, tcho ona niet Russakaya na 100% :D Mozhet byti Italianska ili Griertskaya, no niet Slavyanskaya :)

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 06:18 AM
Potomu, tcho ona niet Russakaya na 100% :D Mozhet byti Italianska ili Griertskaya, no niet Slavyanskaya :)

No ona? :P Otlichny primer Slavyanskoy krasoty.

Veneda
01-24-2015, 06:19 AM
She is acceptable in my book. White.

Aga. Lado. A gde Vy zhyvyote, esli ya mogu sprosit"?

Veneda
01-24-2015, 06:23 AM
No ona? :P Otlichny primer Slavyanskoy krasoty.

Niet. Ty znayesh drugoye lutshyee Slavyanskie krasoty :D

Leto
01-24-2015, 06:23 AM
Aga. Lado. A gde Vy zhyvyote, esli ya mogu sprosit"?
Moscow Oblast. I consider myself native to Northeastern Europe.

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 06:27 AM
Niet. Ty znayesh drugoye lutshyee Slavyanskie krasoty :D


Ona napominayet mne o Veroniki Kravchuk:
http://i.imgur.com/nk4labX.jpg

Veneda
01-24-2015, 06:27 AM
Moscow Oblast. I consider myself native to Northeastern Europe.

Miło Vas poznat'. Ja iz Warszawy :)

Hithaeglir
01-24-2015, 06:56 AM
She seems to have had a lot of injections.
I'll classify her as North Atlantid with some Baltid.

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 07:04 AM
She seems to have had a lot of injections.
I'll classify her as North Atlantid with some Baltid.

Plastic surgery is not allowed in Miss Russia... All girls get a medical background check, so the winner has to be all natural.

todorovitch
01-24-2015, 07:32 AM
I would say North Pontid-Pontid intermediate,because she craniometrically is a textbook pontid,while the blue eyes are more north pontid

glass
01-24-2015, 08:49 AM
She's full ethnic Russian, take your Tatar obsession elsewhere.
mong is stornk in her http://instagram.com/julia_alipova/, might be plastic surgery, injections and lame make up tho

Veroniki Kravchuk

Neither surname nor name is russian.

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 08:52 AM
mong is stornk in her http://instagram.com/julia_alipova/, might be plastic surgery, injections and lame make up tho

Neither surname nor name is russian.

Cat eyes makeup. She has no injections, if she did she wouldn't be allowed to be Miss Russia.

Kravchuk is Russian from Novosibirsk.

щрбл
01-24-2015, 08:53 AM
She looks tatar or a at least slightly mixed.

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 08:54 AM
She looks tatar or a at least slightly mixed.

She's not Tatar, last year's Miss Russia was though.

щрбл
01-24-2015, 08:56 AM
She's not Tatar, last year's Miss Russia was though.

She looks a bit like the girls you've posted in the ablo section, doesn't she?

Ivan Kramskoļ
01-24-2015, 08:56 AM
Odd look for a supposed ethnic russian, especially the features (not the pigmentation).
Don't know why it's just a feeling.

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 08:57 AM
She looks a bit like the girls you've posted in the ablo section, doesn't she?

Megan Foxoid. Also reminds me of Bulgarian singer Emanuela and model Zlatka Raikova.

just
01-24-2015, 09:16 AM
Megan Fox is of Irish-French-English with a Native American.

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 09:21 AM
Megan Fox is of Irish-French-English with a Native American.

If Alipova was Tatar she'd have much more Asian admixture than 1/256. Megan's Fox's native American is speculation though.

just
01-24-2015, 09:23 AM
If Alipova was Tatar she'd have much more Asian admixture than 1/256. Megan's Fox's native American is speculation though.

Fox's maternal line is much of Native, though Americans like to minimalize their stars' Native blood at a very small amount.
Before the Ethnic celeb site, her Native blood was written clearly in Wikipedia.

Arbėrori
01-24-2015, 09:26 AM
Fox's maternal line is much of Native, though Americans like to minimalize their stars' Native blood at a very small amount.
Before the Ethnic celeb site, her Native blood was written clearly in Wikipedia.

Wrong, they like to maximize it.

Anyways, if Alipova had Tatar ancestry it would be known in the media, since Elmira Abdrazakova was quite targeted and gossiped about.

Leto
01-24-2015, 03:49 PM
I've read Alipova is 7/8 Russian, 1/8 Polish, her mother said that. Case closed.
And Elmira Abdrazakova is only half-Tatar, her mother is Russian. She was born in Kazakhstan.

Yulia Alipova
http://top-antropos.com/images/20/yuliya-alipova/%D0%AE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%8F%20%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B F%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%20%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%81%20% D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F%202014%20%D1%8 4%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%20%285%29.jpg

spanish catalan
01-24-2015, 03:53 PM
pontid

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 03:10 AM
I've read Alipova is 7/8 Russian, 1/8 Polish, her mother said that. Case closed.
And Elmira Abdrazakova is only half-Tatar, her mother is Russian. She was born in Kazakhstan.

Yulia Alipova

Where is her Polish descent from? She's gorgeous, I'd love if she won Miss Universe.

Elmira is a butterface.

Awebo
01-25-2015, 06:34 AM
I always though she more or less looks like Miss World Mexico 2009, Perla Beltran, who is also said to resemble Megan Fox.

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 06:35 AM
I always though she more or less looks like Miss World Mexico 2009, Perla Beltran, who is also said to resemble Megan Fox.

Is Perla Beltran pure Spanish or Mestiza?

Awebo
01-25-2015, 06:46 AM
Is Perla Beltran pure Spanish or Mestiza?
Mestiza.

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 06:59 AM
Mestiza.

She seems predominately European though.

Sandman
01-25-2015, 07:02 AM
I've read Alipova is 7/8 Russian, 1/8 Polish, her mother said that. Case closed.
And Elmira Abdrazakova is only half-Tatar, her mother is Russian. She was born in Kazakhstan.

Yulia Alipova
http://top-antropos.com/images/20/yuliya-alipova/%D0%AE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%8F%20%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B F%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%20%D0%9C%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%81%20% D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F%202014%20%D1%8 4%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BE%20%285%29.jpg

In this photograph she looks more naturally and beautifully.

Nor56
01-25-2015, 07:36 AM
Her shape of the eyes are almond-shaped?

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 08:17 AM
Megan Fox is of Irish-French-English with a Native American.

I read that Megan Fox is 'mostly of English ancestry, with smaller amounts of ancestry from elsewhere in Europe', like Miranda Kerr. I see no mention of 'native American' in her profile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Fox

just
01-25-2015, 08:19 AM
I read that Megan Fox's ancestry is 'mostly of English ancestry, with smaller amounts of ancestry from elsewhere in Europe', like Miranda Kerr. I see no mention of 'native American' in her profile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Fox

http://ethnicelebs.com/megan-fox

Do you see her as a completely English? Even in my East-Euro eyes, she doesn't :noidea:

If she's Russian she would be classifed as Turanid

just
01-25-2015, 08:21 AM
I read that Megan Fox is 'mostly of English ancestry, with smaller amounts of ancestry from elsewhere in Europe', like Miranda Kerr. I see no mention of 'native American' in her profile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megan_Fox

Look at Kerr's face, she's completely European though.

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 08:22 AM
http://ethnicelebs.com/megan-fox

Do you see her as a completely English? Even in my East-Euro eyes, she doesn't :noidea:

If she's Russian she would be classifed as Turanid

Cindy Crawford is also of mostly English ancestry and she looks a bit like Kelly Brook. I think they wear fake tan, and Megan Fox dyes her hair black and wears fake tan too.

just
01-25-2015, 08:23 AM
Cindy Crawford is of mostly English ancestry. She looks a bit like Kelly Brook. I think they wear fake tan, and the same with Megan Fox who dyes her hair black and wears fake tan.

Kelly Brook looks completely dark British, so does Crawford who is of mostly Anglo heritage American.

Megan Fox, Angelina Jolie. They both have some Native blood.

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 08:31 AM
Kelly Brook looks completely dark British, so does Crawford who is of mostly Anglo heritage American.

Megan Fox, Angelina Jolie. They both have some Native blood.

I think Megan Fox looks similar to Amy Jackson (an academic and model who won 18 beauty prizes and Miss Teen World competition.)

I see similarities between them in the tan, eye and hair shades, and Amy Jackson has no 'native American' in her as she's from the Isle of Man, British Isles. I think they both wear fake tan and I don't see any mention of 'native American' in Megan Fox's profile; it says mostly English ancestry with smaller amounts of ancestry from elsewhere in Europe on her profile. Miranda Kerr is also of mostly English ancestry and she's from Australia, so there's no 'native american' in her either.

Amy.
http://www.kollywoodtoday.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/amy_jackson_unseen_hot_photoshoot_stills_1.jpghttp ://ilarge.listal.com/image/3340140/936full-amy-jackson.jpghttp://www.desibucket.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Amy-Jackson-Wearing-Jewellery.jpghttp://www.tamilqueens.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hot_photos_amy_jackson_11.jpghttp://www.desibucket.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Lovely-Amy-Jackson.jpg

just
01-25-2015, 08:36 AM
It's easy to sense pure Euro with New Worldler,
I don't sense with their pigmentation, but look at the bone structure between eyes and eyes which is directly linked to a nosal bridge

http://cfile24.uf.tistory.com/image/217BAE3D5332F9AD309B2B
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRheSwKQuJ3K3p6cYe_VONtSIKxIAzA9 Xw9IAEYEpuUtqtkNGxB

Megan
http://images.boomsbeat.com/data/images/full/10133/megan-fox.jpg

The other model
http://www.desibucket.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Amy-Jackson-Wearing-Jewellery.jpg

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 08:41 AM
I think Megan Fox looks similar to Amy Jackson (an academic and model who won 18 beauty prizes and Miss Teen World competition.)

I see similarities between them in the tan, eye and hair shades, and Amy Jackson has no 'native American' in her as she's from the Isle of Man, British Isles. I think they both wear fake tan and I don't see any mention of 'native American' in Megan Fox's profile; it says mostly English ancestry with smaller amounts of ancestry from elsewhere in Europe on her profile. Miranda Kerr is also of mostly English ancestry and she's from Australia, so there's no 'native american' in her either.

Amy is gorgeous! She has a very British face I must say. I used to watch British reality shows and many women had such a look. It's unfortunate that they're stereotyped as either fat or nigger loving, since that's not true... They seem to have amazing bodies and effortless sex appeal.

I believe Megan is lying about her Native American. Even if she had it's so insignificant you can't even mention it. Look at her face, she doesn't look out of sight anywhere in Europe, she even could pass as Russian despite her Western European vibe and descent.

Kerr is as European as it gets, it's obvious in her facial shape.

Grace O'Malley
01-25-2015, 08:53 AM
Megan Fox looks like a lot of girls from the British Isles. Even the girl representing Ireland in this year's Miss Universe has quite a resemblance to Megan Fox. In these beauty comps I've noticed a lot of the girls no matter where they are from in the world have a similar look. A lot of the Asian and African girls look part European and they look a bit racially ambiguous. A lot of the European girls also look a bit pan European and could be from any country.

just
01-25-2015, 08:55 AM
why do people have a difficulty the fact that Fox has some Native roots?

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 09:02 AM
Megan Fox looks like a lot of girls from the British Isles. Even the girl representing Ireland in this year's Miss Universe has quite a resemblance to Megan Fox. In these beauty comps I've noticed a lot of the girls no matter where they are from in the world have a similar look. A lot of the Asian and African girls look part European and they look a bit racially ambiguous. A lot of the European girls also look a bit pan European and could be from any country.

David Gandy (the worlds top male model) is English, but people (including himself) say he has an Italian look (even though he has English ancestry!) He also has dark hair, blue eyes and a tanned shade. Russell Brand is also English and he could be mistaken for southern European. Cheryl Cole is another one. I have a feeling that if these people lived in the US, people would be saying they have 'native American' in them too due to wearing a tan! :rolleyes:

I don't know why a few people fabricate that Megan Fox has 'native American' ancestry. :confused: I don't see it in her, and her profile doesn't state this either. She wears fake tan and she dyed her hair black. Her natural skin tone and hair shade is in the pics below, which is more of the same shade as Elizabeth Hurley.

http://demonstrateit.org/wp-content/uploads/Fox-2012-megan-fox-30740792-1920-1200.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/3061372854/68fb99eb8e7d48180f583c61c1ef2613.jpeg

Grace O'Malley
01-25-2015, 09:02 AM
why do people have a difficulty the fact that Fox has some Native roots?

I don't have any difficulty with her having Native roots but it is so miniscule and far back it would have no bearing on what she looks like. On those Gedmatch calculators I get more Amerindian than a lot of Americans that claim to have NA ancestry. :)

Here is a pic of Lisa Madden who is Miss Ireland. If she was American people would be claiming she has some NA ancestry.

http://images.entertainment.ie/images_content/rectangle/620x372/wenn22093270.jpg

Megan could fit in the British Isles and no one would question her ancestry. She is mostly English anyway.

just
01-25-2015, 09:03 AM
Irina Shayk (father is tatar) and this woman has a facial similarity.
If her father is ethnic Russian, then she can have some Tatar blood through maternal line.
And hell, if you know the Russian history a little bit, Russia is a quite multiracial country, it is also why ethnic Slavic nationalism is very strong compared to Western World in modern day.

Then why does Shayk look similar Adriana Lima who is partly Carribean?

just
01-25-2015, 09:06 AM
David Gandy (the worlds top male model) is English, but people (including himself) say he has an Italian look (even though he has English ancestry!) He also has dark hair, blue eyes and a tanned shade. Russell Brand is also English and he could be mistaken for southern European. Cheryl Cole is another one. I have a feeling that if these people lived in the US, people would be saying they have 'native American' in them too due to having a tan!

I don't know why people fabricate that Megan Fox has 'native American' ancestry. :confused: I don't see it in her and her profile doesn't state this either.

Italian is not Native, they are south Euro how that is same level with Amerind?
If Gandy is an American I would think he's of Italian with something else but nothing Amerind.

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 09:08 AM
Another famous Irish model resembling Megan is Rozanna Purcell, I bet they'd say she's got Amerindian descent aswell if she was from the US:
http://i.imgur.com/cV0AVnO.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LwvF1o7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dyzPLsi.jpg

just
01-25-2015, 09:11 AM
^
No, I wouldn't consider her having Amerind blood
What's wrong thick lips? Does Fox have thick lips? Her lips are slimer than this girl
Though I don't consider Fox as a completely Euro American

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 09:13 AM
^
No, I wouldn't consider her having Amerind blood
What's wrong thick lips? Does Fox have thick lips? Her lips are slimer than this girl
Though I don't consider Fox as a completely Euro American

I'm not speaking of you but regular Americans. Alipova is what you call a ''Fox doll'', girls that resemble the stereotypical Megan Fox, there are many like her.

Grace O'Malley
01-25-2015, 09:13 AM
Another famous Irish model resembling Megan is Rozanna Purcell, I bet they'd say she's got Amerindian descent aswell if she was from the US:


Americans think that if someone has high cheekbones or almond shaped eyes and dark hair they must have some Amerindian ancestry. More should make a trip to Europe and see that people are quite varied in their looks. People have too much of a stereotypical idea of what nationalities are supposed to look like. There is variety in all nationalities.

just
01-25-2015, 09:14 AM
I'm not speaking of you but regular Americans. Alipova is what you call a ''Fox doll'', girls that resemble the stereotypical Megan Fox, there are many like her.

I'm not speaking of you either but telling my opinion.

just
01-25-2015, 09:16 AM
The American actress who is of Irish/Jewish descent looks completely Miss Ireland. (nothing Amerind)

http://ethnicelebs.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/bigstock_LOS_ANGELES_-_NOV___Olivia_W_25018238small.jpg

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 09:17 AM
Italian is not Native, they are south Euro how that is same level with Amerind?
If Gandy is an American I would think he's of Italian with something else but nothing Amerind.

The point I'm making is that David Gandy is of English ancestry, but you could mistake him for being Italian.

It's the same with Megan Fox (even though I don't see any native American in her features.)

It's not about the differences between Italian, native American, etc, the point I'm making is that some people are incorrectly mistaken for another ethnic group.

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 09:18 AM
I'm not speaking of you either but telling my opinion.

:picard2:

just
01-25-2015, 09:22 AM
The point I'm making is that David Gandy is of English ancestry, but you could mistake him for having a different ancestry.

It's the same with Megan Fox (even though I don't see any native American in her features.)

It's not about the differences between Italian, native American, etc, the point I'm making is that some people are incorrectly mistaken for another ethnic group.

Gandy is misunderstood by some people as a South Euro even British ones.
There are Iberian dark component in the British Iron Age before Celts go to the British Island though that component is not that strong.
Cheryl is also one kind of that person and Catherine Zeta Jones does too
Why do you think the Welsh people are generally darker than other British?
It's because there are strong Basque R1b influences.
But are those Amerinds?? No, and just dark pigmentation with a general euro cheekbones and nosal bridege they have

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 09:24 AM
Catherine Zeta Jones is another one. "Her father is of Welsh descent, and her mother is of Welsh and Irish ancestry."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Zeta-Jones

https://www.google.co.uk/search?newwindow=1&biw=1366&bih=608&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Catherine+Zeta+Jones&oq=Catherine+Zeta+Jones&gs_l=img.3..0l10.694252.697489.0.697606.20.10.0.10 .10.0.160.935.3j5.8.0.msedr...0...1c.1.61.img..2.1 8.1041.4Tx4puxUEBc

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 09:28 AM
@Just.

The fact remains that Megan Fox has mostly English ancestry with smaller amounts of ancestry from elsewhere in Europe.
Who is her native American relative? And how much blood does she have from them?

just
01-25-2015, 09:28 AM
Catherine Zeta Jones is another one. "Her father is of Welsh descent, and her mother is of Welsh and Irish ancestry."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Zeta-Jones

https://www.google.co.uk/search?newwindow=1&biw=1366&bih=608&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Catherine+Zeta+Jones&oq=Catherine+Zeta+Jones&gs_l=img.3..0l10.694252.697489.0.697606.20.10.0.10 .10.0.160.935.3j5.8.0.msedr...0...1c.1.61.img..2.1 8.1041.4Tx4puxUEBc

The reason why I am saying about her is all British people are not different each other, you know that too.
English are said to be Anglo-Saxons but there are also Celts. Like this case, only Welsh people don't have an Iberian R1b influence.
Cole is not Welsh and Gandy too. But British, so can they have some Iberian R1b components.

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 09:32 AM
The reason why I am saying about her is all British people are not different each other, you know that too.
English are said to be Anglo-Saxons but there are also Celts. Like this case, only Welsh people don't have an Iberian R1b influence.
Cole is not Welsh and Gandy too. But British, so can they have some Iberian R1b components.

The R1b gene is high across most of Britain forming 65-70% of English blood according to Dr. Stephen Oppenheimers findings. The precious rhesus negative blood is also higher in western Britain, Eire, and in the Basque Country (highest in the world.) The English, Irish, Welsh and Scots generally don't look very different to each other.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuJ6zeMlVSY

Grace O'Malley
01-25-2015, 09:35 AM
Gandy is misunderstood by some people as a South Euro even British ones.
There are Iberian dark component in the British Iron Age before Celts go to the British Island though that component is not that strong.
Cheryl is also one kind of that person and Catherine Zeta Jones does too
Why do you think the Welsh people are generally darker than other British?
It's because there are strong Basque R1b influences.
But are those Amerinds?? No, and just dark pigmentation with a general euro cheekbones and nosal bridege they have

We've had this discussion before and the R1b in the British Isles is not the same as the one in the Iberia. Also the 2 Hinxton samples from the Iron Age are the same as modern Scots and Irish. If there is such a close Basque influence then why are they so distant genetically. Every dark haired and dark eyed British Islander is genetically the same as everyone else. Do you explain every dark haired and dark eyed person in your nationality as due to Basques? For such an insular population these Basques sure got around.

Grace O'Malley
01-25-2015, 09:43 AM
The reason why I am saying about her is all British people are not different each other, you know that too.
English are said to be Anglo-Saxons but there are also Celts. Like this case, only Welsh people don't have an Iberian R1b influence.
Cole is not Welsh and Gandy too. But British, so can they have some Iberian R1b components.

Why do you insist on calling R1b Iberian? R1b is actually from the Steppes or Maykop. There is a lot of discussion about this very subject on Eurogenes. Why do Scots and Irish have quite high ANE? Oppenheimer's studies are old and have been shown to be inaccurate because at the time they just didn't know enough about the subject. Anyway there is more information coming out shortly that should hopefully answer more questions about R1b.

just
01-25-2015, 11:01 AM
@Just.

The fact remains that Megan Fox has mostly English ancestry with smaller amounts of ancestry from elsewhere in Europe.
Who is her native American relative? And how much blood does she have from them?

In 2010, Megan Fox said that she'd really like to play the Apache superhero Rainmaker if the Gen 13 comic book were ever made into a movie. In slightly defensive remarks, she said she wouldn't want "people" (presumably Indians) to "protest" if she were in the role: “She’s a Native American and I have a little bit of that blood in me. ... It would be a bit of a stretch—but if Jake Gyllenhaal can be the Prince of Persia, I think that I can do that.”

source : http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/07/24/got-native-you-great-just-try-avoid-pulling-justin-bieber-125035

another article about her Native ancestry : http://www.askmen.com/entertainment/special_feature_250/259_5-things-you-didnt-know-megan-fox.html

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 11:05 AM
In slightly defensive remarks, she said she wouldn't want "people" (presumably Indians) to "protest" if she were in the role: “She’s a Native American and I have a little bit of that blood in me. ... It would be a bit of a stretch—but if Jake Gyllenhaal can be the Prince of Persia, I think that I can do that.''

Only 'a little bit.' A majority of English ancestry and a minute bit of native American, so miniscule and tiny that it's unrecognisable in her features.

just
01-25-2015, 11:09 AM
Why do you insist on calling R1b Iberian? R1b is actually from the Steppes or Maykop. There is a lot of discussion about this very subject on Eurogenes. Why do Scots and Irish have quite high ANE? Oppenheimer's studies are old and have been shown to be inaccurate because at the time they just didn't know enough about the subject. Anyway there is more information coming out shortly that should hopefully answer more questions about R1b.

R1b has lots of branch. Ancient Celtic insular R1b is L, and Iberian R1b is S.
And Anglo-Saxon's haplogrop is also R1b which is different. British/Dutch/German/Iberian/Italian also all have R1b but in different branch.
There are R1b-S genes among the British but in minority.

just
01-25-2015, 11:11 AM
Only 'a little bit.' A majority of English ancestry and a minute bit of native American, so miniscule and tiny that it's unrecognisable in her features.

Yep, it is also what I think. I expected this response.
She looks Caucasoid(predominatly English with British people with a bit of French and the Native blood which makes her a bit exotic.)

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 11:14 AM
Yep, it is also what I think. I expected this response.
She looks Caucasoid(predominatly English with British people with a bit of French and the Native blood which makes her a bit exotic.)

She doesn't look like Native American Indians. I don't think Megan Fox looks 'exotic'. She looks more like Amy Jackson.

Megan Fox.
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30800000/Megan-Fox-megan-fox-30892166-1920-1080.jpg

Amy Jackson (from the Isle of Man, British Isles)
http://www.kollywoodtoday.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/amy_jackson_unseen_hot_photoshoot_stills_1.jpghttp ://ilarge.listal.com/image/3340140/936full-amy-jackson.jpg

Native American.
http://www.old-picture.com/indians/pictures/Native-American.jpg

just
01-25-2015, 11:16 AM
She doesn't look like Native American Indians.
http://www.old-picture.com/indians/pictures/Native-American.jpg

Let's say, you just said yourself she's predominatly English with a little bit of Native blood.
Her Native blood is very far from in her direct ancestors, so it just makes her 'exotic'.

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 11:18 AM
Megan doesn't look exotic at all... Part native people usually look like this:
http://i.imgur.com/aTmL6wS.jpg

While Megan looks like your regular white girl.
http://i.imgur.com/L2IwPC3.jpg

just
01-25-2015, 11:19 AM
^

I guess the first pic girl is of Spanish blood with an Indio(South American Native) descent.(Mestiza)

But Fox shows more North looking due to English blood.

just
01-25-2015, 11:20 AM
Mestizos (Spanish with Indio descent) and some North Americans who is of British descent and North-Native American descent has a different looking.

Alphawolf
01-25-2015, 11:22 AM
Another Turkic beauty. She's pred. Pontid+Turanid.

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 11:23 AM
^

I guess the first pic girl is of Spanish blood with an Indo(South American Native) descent.(Mestiza)

But Fox shows more North looking due to English blood.

You're wrong. Tonantzin Carmelo is half white and half native American (respectably Tonga and Kumeyaay tribes of Southern California); source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonantzin_Carmelo).

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 11:23 AM
Another Turkic beauty. She's pred. Pontid+Turanid.

Turkics can't look like this sorry. Even Irina Shaykislamova looks like a swarthier version of her mother.

just
01-25-2015, 11:26 AM
You're wrong. Tonantzin Carmelo is half white and half native American (respectably Tonga and Kumeyaay tribes of Southern California); source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonantzin_Carmelo).

Carmelo is an Italian surname. So similar with Spanish.

just
01-25-2015, 11:27 AM
Turkics can't look like this sorry. Even Irina Shaykislamova looks like a swarthier version of her mother.

Lol I just found that you like her seriously though she's too sexy for Turks right?

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 11:29 AM
Carmelo is an Italian surname. So similar with Spanish.

I don't know what's her white descent, but she's what you'd call exotic.

Alphawolf
01-25-2015, 11:30 AM
Turkics can't look like this sorry. Even Irina Shaykislamova looks like a swarthier version of her mother.

The world is bigger than your Dinaric mountains in the Balkans. Your knowledge of Turkic peoples and Eurasia is limited to teach people from this part of the world.

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 11:30 AM
Lol I just found that you like her seriously though she's too sexy for Turks right?

She's a gorgeous woman, I don't see any Turkic in her face despite being one. Irina Sharipova on the other hand is a real Turkic beauty.

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 11:31 AM
The world is bigger than your Dinaric mountains in the Balkans. Your knowledge of Turkic peoples and Eurasia is limited to teach people from this part of the world.

And yet we governed not only your country, but also Lebanon, Egypt and etc. My knowledge of Turkic people is limited to the Ottomans.

Calling a Russian girl a Turkic beauty is ignorant since she's 7/8 Russian and 1/8 Polish. Turkic? Nada.

just
01-25-2015, 11:32 AM
I don't know what's her white descent, but she's what you'd call exotic.

So she's from California according to your source.
There are many Spanish settlers in California. (In the early American history there are more Spanish people than British people)
And her surname is obviously Italian and her mother is descendant of Native, while Fox is of quite British descent with some admixture with Naitve.

щрбл
01-25-2015, 11:33 AM
Turkics can't look like this sorry. Even Irina Shaykislamova looks like a swarthier version of her mother.

You are right, but according to turks, anything east of Vienna and south of Moscow is turkic. : D

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 11:35 AM
So she's from California according to your source.
There are many Spanish settlers in California. (In the early American history there are more Spanish people than British people)
And her surname is obviously Italian and her mother is descendant of Native, while Fox is of quite British descent with some admixture with Naitve.

Yes, but she's not what you'd call Latina, she's Northern native American, while you said Southern.

Megan is obviously much whiter than her due to her supposed native descent being less than 1 %, which doesn't even show in her look.

just
01-25-2015, 11:35 AM
Actually I wouldn't take care this Miss Russia's descent.
Some Russian members on TA like glasses or others call her Tatar while others don't.
Russia is founded by many people (Rus tribe, Slavs, and Tatars)

Virtuous
01-25-2015, 11:37 AM
I really don't get this "miss" thing. It seems that when you got a country or beautiful women the only way to win a contest is to be fake. You can't simply give a title to a lass being the "most beautiful" from a Country of millions.

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 11:39 AM
I really don't get this "miss" thing. It seems that when you got a country or beautiful women the only way to win a contest is to be fake. You can't simply give a title to a lass being the "most beautiful" from a Country of millions.

The thing is Russia has strict surgery policies on their Misses... As I said, they get a round up check on what they've done at the doctor's office.

Even if she's had anything done, she's still a beauty. Pageantry is for entertainment so chill.

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 11:40 AM
Actually I wouldn't take care this Miss Russia's descent.
Some Russian members on TA like glasses or others call her Tatar while others don't.
Russia is founded by many people (Rus tribe, Slavs, and Tatars)

Bottom line is she's not Tatar. I don't get your fixation with mixed people, are you also part Tatar?

Being Russian is not the same as being ethnic Russian. One is white the other could be whatever.

just
01-25-2015, 11:51 AM
The term Latina is a social term in US 21 century.

For example, Giselle Bunchen is considered Latina in US though she's completely German descent.

And back to the topic, the girl you exampled is of Italian/Californian Native who is very close to Latin American Indos.

In descent concept, she's very same with South Americans.

just
01-25-2015, 11:54 AM
Bottom line is she's not Tatar. I don't get your fixation with mixed people, are you also part Tatar?

Being Russian is not the same as being ethnic Russian. One is white the other could be whatever.

what's the reason you said my thinking completely same with opposition?
ethnic Russian is predominantly Rus tribe with a Slav from Ukraine.
I said only ethnic Russians are not Russians. So I consider her nothing strange though she looks still Turkic.
and I was of just ethnic Russian descent partially who was of blonddish brown haired Baltid Russian

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 11:58 AM
I really don't get this "miss" thing. It seems that when you got a country or beautiful women the only way to win a contest is to be fake. You can't simply give a title to a lass being the "most beautiful" from a Country of millions.

There's strict entry rules on the Miss Country competitions. Applicants must not have done any topless or nude photography (so that excludes a lot of the fashion models who pose nude in artistic fashion-style photos and also the glamour models who pose for mens magazines from being allowed to enter these competitions) plus there's other exclusion rules, such as if they're signed to leading modelling agencies, or something like that. There's a lot of strict entry rules.

That's why you don't see the top supermodels, glamour models, or film stars entering these Miss Country beauty competitions.

And the winners of Miss World and Miss Universe competitions, etc, don't often make it to become high-earning millionaire supermodels who get booked for international photo-shoots with leading beauty and fashion companies, catwalk shows, and on the covers of leading beauty & fashion magazines, nor landing the leading roles in blockbuster films.

just
01-25-2015, 12:04 PM
Give this 2014 Miss Russian to TA member Sarmatian who is ethnic-Russian nationalist, he would insist her to be fully Turkic in a strong position

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 01:10 PM
The term Latina is a social term in US 21 century.

For example, Giselle Bunchen is considered Latina in US though she's completely German descent.

And back to the topic, the girl you exampled is of Italian/Californian Native who is very close to Latin American Indos.

In descent concept, she's very same with South Americans.

Latina refers to Southern American Spanish speaking people, who are usually mestizo.
The girl I posted isn't exactly mestizo, she's literally half native American while mestizos are mostly mixed with different percentages of white and native American.

California is in Northern America the last time I checked, so... :lol:

Arbėrori
01-25-2015, 01:11 PM
what's the reason you said my thinking completely same with opposition?
ethnic Russian is predominantly Rus tribe with a Slav from Ukraine.
I said only ethnic Russians are not Russians. So I consider her nothing strange though she looks still Turkic.
and I was of just ethnic Russian descent partially who was of blonddish brown haired Baltid Russian

Ethnic Russians are Russians or do you mean minorities from Russia? I don't understand what you mean.
Looking Turkic is Turanid, she isn't Turanic, but suit yourself.

Anyway interesting documentary of Miss Russia's in the years, Elmira seems to be a very beautiful and sweet girl:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjrA2qTUZQM

Speedy Freedy
01-25-2015, 07:40 PM
She is not Tatar. We have different first names and surnames. She doesn't look like she whould be one of us. Last years' Miss Russia Elmira Abdrazakova is a Tatar through her fathers' side though.

Leto
01-25-2015, 07:44 PM
Another Turkic beauty. She's pred. Pontid+Turanid.
No Turkic. Screw you.

♥ Lily ♥
01-25-2015, 08:57 PM
I really don't get this "miss" thing. It seems that when you got a country or beautiful women the only way to win a contest is to be fake. You can't simply give a title to a lass being the "most beautiful" from a Country of millions.

I think this Russian supermodel Anna Selezneva is prettier. It's a pity that Swedish supermodel Elsa Hosk can't represent Sweden. And English supermodels like Kate Moss, Lily Donaldson, Beth Leader and Rosie Huntington Whiteley haven't been allowed to represent the UK, and the Dutch supermodel Dioni Tabbers isn't allowed to represent The Netherlands, and Aussie supermodel Abbey Lee Kershaw isn't allowed to represent Australia, etc.
http://i.picasion.com/resize79/d1d84155dbcc643a5db3095d86c0423d.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-P59HrrLZ098/TbF3zw3QhCI/AAAAAAAAEq4/b1WrGuUhZSI/s1600/annaseleznevastreetstyle.jpg
https://38.media.tumblr.com/b41440bcecc721c3a7e78fa4d4aae084/tumblr_mgze5dYW9X1qgo7h5o1_500.gif
http://iv1.lisimg.com/image/2458713/600full-anna-selezneva.jpg
http://fabfashionfix.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/41.jpg