Classify full Cabinet of Cyprus (Thumbs Up + Rep for comment)

[Bloodsport]

This is the full cabinet of Cyprus. Please tell me where you think AS A WHOLE they can pass if anywhere outside of Cyprus. I will thumbs up + rep any comment. Spread out over 2 posts.

President - Nicos Anastasiades:

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8553612.ece/binary/original/v2-Nicos-Anastasiades-REUT.jpg

Ministry of Foreign Affairs - Ioannis Kasoulides

http://www.presidency.gov.cy/Presidency/Presidency.nsf/All/ACAB19F66D2E858EC225756E002F5CEF/$file/Kasoulides%20Exwterikwn.jpg?OpenElement

Ministry of Finance - Haris Georgiades

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/All/F5CC745B0C3F7CACC2256DBB00316679/$file/GeorgiadisH-C.jpg

Ministry of Interior - Socratis Hasikos

http://www.presidency.gov.cy/Presidency/Presidency.nsf/All/4EB25365128795A2C225756E0030CA63/$file/Xasikos%20Eswterikwn.jpg?OpenElement

Ministry of Defence - Christoforos Fokaides

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/134696_10150357455310652_5038459_o.jpg

Ministry of Education and Culture - Kostas Kadis

http://www.presidency.gov.cy/Presidency/Presidency.nsf/All/781019047EBCD0FFC225756E0030FE83/$file/Kadis_L.jpg?OpenElement

Ministry of Communications and Works - Marios Demetriades

http://www.presidency.gov.cy/Presidency/Presidency.nsf/All/DA087364605B5E81C225756E0031373D/$file/Dimitriades_L.jpg?OpenElement

Ministry of Energy, Commerce, Industry and Tourism - Georgios Lakkotrypis

http://www.presidency.gov.cy/Presidency/Presidency.nsf/All/62E81A72E728DBD8C225756E003C4D55/$file/Lakkotrypis%20Emporiou.jpg?OpenElement

[Bloodsport]

Ministry of Agriculture, Natural Resources and Environment - Nikos Kougialis

http://www.presidency.gov.cy/Presidency/Presidency.nsf/All/2200EA39E346ADDCC225756E002D3F4F/$file/Kouyialis%20Georgias.jpg?OpenElement

Ministry of Labour and Social Insurance - Zeta Emilianidou

http://www.presidency.gov.cy/Presidency/Presidency.nsf/All/F7DA2D5D38F1DF89C225756E002FA7A0/$file/0.jpg?OpenElement

Ministry of Justice and Public Order - Ionas Nikolaou

http://www.presidency.gov.cy/Presidency/Presidency.nsf/All/D2933D7721D5D67DC225756E002D8285/$file/Nicolaou%20Dikaiosynis.jpg?OpenElement

Minister of Health - Philippos Patsalis

http://www.presidency.gov.cy/Presidency/Presidency.nsf/All/69E7F328E64E8C4DC225756E0032E95A/$file/Patsalis_L.jpg?OpenElement

Government spokesman - Nikos Christodoulides

http://photo.ekirikas.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/08133053/Nikos-Christodoulides-2.jpg

Undersecretary to the President - Konstantinos Petrides

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/All/3E0D1629550DF57EC225719C004A9EBD/$file/PetridesK-C.jpg

[Shah-Jehan]

Looks are very varied, as a whole probably Italy and Turkey (excluding Cyprus and Greece).

[Bloodsport]

Looks are very varied, as a whole probably Italy and Turkey (excluding Cyprus and Greece).

Any individual classifications? Or state the main phenotypes?

[Shah-Jehan]

Any individual classifications? Or state the main phenotypes?

There`s a lot of them, but most of them are alpine-med and some are also gracile med.

[Casandrinos]

Very diverse

The only slightly more frequent types i see is Berid + Litorid

[Bloodsport]

Very diverse

The only slightly more frequent types i see is Berid + Litorid

Which would you say pass fully on the mainland?

[Bloodsport]

More people should give this a go, I'm offering free thumbs up even if your classification is shit :p.

[Tooting Carmen]

A mix of Alpines and East Meds.

[MisterGaga]

Myceanan types mostly. Greek-looking undoubtly for the most of part, fit best the Aegean islands and the Pelonoponese.

[Casandrinos]

Which would you say pass fully on the mainland?

Nicos Anastasiades
Ioannis Kasoulides
Socratis Hasikos
Christoforos Fokaides
Marios Demetriades
Nikos Kougialis
Konstantinos Petrides

though you find all types in the mainland nowadays.

[Sikeliot]

I don't see any difference really to Sicilians. I don't think these look particularly MENA either.

Med-CM
Alpine-DinaroMed
Atlanto-Med/CM
Alpine
Berid
Med-Armenoid
Atlanto-Med/CM
Dinaro-Med-Alpine
Med-Berid
Med-Armenoid
Alpine-Med
Med-Armenoid
Med-Armenoid
Berid

[Bloodsport]

Nicos Anastasiades
Ioannis Kasoulides
Socratis Hasikos
Christoforos Fokaides
Marios Demetriades
Nikos Kougialis
Konstantinos Petrides

though you find all types in the mainland nowadays.

I would have said these ones too.

Nikos Christodoulides maybe too?

http://www.makeleio.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/nikos-christodoulides.jpg

[Casandrinos]

I would have said these ones too.

Nikos Christodoulides maybe too?

http://www.makeleio.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/nikos-christodoulides.jpg


yeah

looks a bit like this journalist

http://www.typologies.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/TSIMAS-1.jpg

[Bloodsport]

I don't see any difference really to Sicilians. I don't think these look particularly MENA either.

Med-CM
Alpine-DinaroMed
Atlanto-Med/CM
Alpine
Berid
Med-Armenoid
Atlanto-Med/CM
Dinaro-Med-Alpine
Med-Berid
Med-Armenoid
Alpine-Med
Med-Armenoid
Med-Armenoid
Berid

I still think that Armenoid comes up a lot more common in Cyprus than Levantine-Arabid looks.

[Bloodsport]

More photos of Konstantinos Petrides (this is a fairly common look).

http://www.sigmalive.com/uploads/images/news/konstantinos-petridis-anaptyxi-stirigmeni-stin-pragmatiki-paragogi.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/flyiacBPkXE/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.newzup.com/SEPTEMBER%202/PETRIDIS.jpg

[Tooting Carmen]

Looks are very varied

Not really. In terms of facial traits, most are some type of Mediterranean, be it Alpine-Med, Dinaro-Med or East Med. In terms of pigmentation, there is absolutely no variation in hair or eye colour, though on the other hand there is in skin tone.

[Casandrinos]

More photos of Konstantinos Petrides (this is a fairly common look).

http://www.sigmalive.com/uploads/images/news/konstantinos-petridis-anaptyxi-stirigmeni-stin-pragmatiki-paragogi.jpg
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/flyiacBPkXE/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.newzup.com/SEPTEMBER%202/PETRIDIS.jpg

some minor resemblance with this Thessalian

http://www.onsports.gr/media/k2/items/cache/7e968ba6902ba3d0c4a768bd021a372c_L.jpg

http://infootball.gr/slir/w600//images/usrImage/0368903001350146609.jpg

i'm obsessed with look alikes :icon_lol:

[Bloodsport]

Not really. In terms of facial traits, most are some type of Mediterranean, be it Alpine-Med, Dinaro-Med or East Med. In terms of pigmentation, there is absolutely no variation in hair or eye colour, though on the other hand there is in skin tone.

I think they all look quite distinctly Cypriot.

Only Marios Demetriades could pass in a number of countries, imo. The rest look distinctly Cypriot and most look Greek islander.

[Casandrinos]

They don't resemble Sicilians at all btw

Sikeliot is just blind

They look Greek or their own for the most part.

[Bloodsport]

http://www.goldnews.com.cy/assets/image/imageoriginal/Lakkotrypis.jpg
http://www.kathimerini.com.cy/assets/modules/kat/articles/201303/125985/images/det_lakkotrypis2.jpg
http://gdb.voanews.com/E467D4D6-322D-4408-9BF5-1ED92CC7CB6E_mw1024_mh1024_s.jpg

Find me a lookalike for Lakkotrypis! He looks exactly like my mum's cousin.

[Highlands]

In desperate need of some Baltid

[Sikeliot]

I'd like to know, Bloodsport, how you'd compare those Cypriots to these. Excluding the few lighter types.

http://www.associazionepercorsi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/IMG_08136.jpg

and these:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?157434-Main-types-in-these-Sicilians-from-Mazara-Del-Vallo-Trapani-province

[Sikeliot]

They don't resemble Sicilians at all btw

Sikeliot is just blind

They look Greek or their own for the most part.


They can pass.

[Tooting Carmen]

Funny how Sikeliot and other Med-centrics say that Brits are boring whereas Cypriots (and other Southern Europeans, to some extent) are so fascinating, when a random group of Brits (be they politicians or anything else) would be FAR more varied than this. Btw, British cabinet ministers (although some have changed since I made the thread): http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?101249-UK-Government-Ministers

[Sikeliot]

http://www.goldnews.com.cy/assets/image/imageoriginal/Lakkotrypis.jpg
http://www.kathimerini.com.cy/assets/modules/kat/articles/201303/125985/images/det_lakkotrypis2.jpg
http://gdb.voanews.com/E467D4D6-322D-4408-9BF5-1ED92CC7CB6E_mw1024_mh1024_s.jpg

Find me a lookalike for Lakkotrypis! He looks exactly like my mum's cousin.

This guy has some Berid influence. The spacing of the eyes and the lips especially.

[Bloodsport]

I'd like to know, Bloodsport, how you'd compare those Cypriots to these. Excluding the few lighter types.

http://www.associazionepercorsi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/IMG_08136.jpg

and these:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?157434-Main-types-in-these-Sicilians-from-Mazara-Del-Vallo-Trapani-province

The types in these pictures have some Atlanto-Med types or types that may be more northern influenced.

[Sikeliot]

The types in these pictures have some Atlanto-Med types or types that may be more northern influenced.

Compared to who? Cyprus? Greece?

Are the darker types the same as those in Cyprus or no?

[Sikeliot]

It's also important to note the Cypriots lack the northern influences that would be found in Greece.

[Casandrinos]

http://www.goldnews.com.cy/assets/image/imageoriginal/Lakkotrypis.jpg
http://www.kathimerini.com.cy/assets/modules/kat/articles/201303/125985/images/det_lakkotrypis2.jpg
http://gdb.voanews.com/E467D4D6-322D-4408-9BF5-1ED92CC7CB6E_mw1024_mh1024_s.jpg

Find me a lookalike for Lakkotrypis! He looks exactly like my mum's cousin.

Not a good one but here you go

http://www.cna.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/xatzimarkakis.jpg

Though he is Cretan (Xatzimarkakis)

[Bloodsport]

Funny how Sikeliot and other Med-centrics say that Brits are boring whereas Cypriots (and other Southern Europeans, to some extent) are so fascinating, when a random group of Brits (be they politicians or anything else) would be FAR more varied than this. Btw, British cabinet ministers (although some have changed since I made the thread): http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?101249-UK-Government-Ministers

To be honest, I see more variety in these Cypriots even though I think they all look distinctly Cypriot. But I do agree that there is too much Med-centrism and other ethnicities are interesting to classify too. It's just I've not learnt much about non-Med phenotypes yet.

[Sikeliot]

I think you can tell them from Greeks proper because they lack any northern influence.

[Bloodsport]

Compared to who? Cyprus? Greece?

Are the darker types the same as those in Cyprus or no?

To Cyprus, the Sicilians look more northern influenced. The darker types look quite unique.

[Tooting Carmen]

To be honest, I see more variety in these Cypriots even though I think they all look distinctly Cypriot. But I do agree that there is too much Med-centrism and other ethnicities are interesting to classify too. It's just I've not learnt much about non-Med phenotypes yet.

Excuse me? How are these Cypriots, being as uniformly dark-haired, dark-eyed and Mediterranean-featured as they are, more varied than those Brits, who have every hair and eye colour possible, and a range of European phenotypes from people who look like Finns all the way to people who look like Canarians?

[Bloodsport]

I think you can tell them from Greeks proper because they lack any northern influence.

I'll let my friend Casandrinos and other mainland Greeks answer that.

[Tooting Carmen]

To be honest, I see more variety in these Cypriots even though I think they all look distinctly Cypriot. But I do agree that there is too much Med-centrism and other ethnicities are interesting to classify too. It's just I've not learnt much about non-Med phenotypes yet.

Excuse me? How are these Cypriots, being as uniformly dark-haired, dark-eyed and Mediterranean-featured as they are, more varied than those Brits, who have every hair and eye colour possible, and a range of European phenotypes from people who look like Finns all the way to people who look like Canarians?

[Casandrinos]

They can pass.

They look Greek and West Asian/Near Eastern

Sicilians not

[Sikeliot]

They look Greek and West Asian/Near Eastern

Sicilians not

Both Greek and Near Eastern types appear in Sicily.

[Sikeliot]

To Cyprus, the Sicilians look more northern influenced. The darker types look quite unique.

Dark types look unique how? What might they pass as?

Also, compared to Cyprus, do YOU perceive mainland Greeks as northern influenced?

[Bloodsport]

Excuse me? How are these Cypriots, being as uniformly dark-haired, dark-eyed and Mediterranean-featured as they are, more varied than those Brits, who have every hair and eye colour possible, and a range of European phenotypes from people who look like Finns all the way to people who look like Canarians?

It's just my opinion. I've said before that I am not really familiar with northern phenotypes, I am with Mediterranean phenotypes so it's easy for me to spot the differences in Med peoples.

[Casandrinos]

I think you can tell them from Greeks proper because they lack any northern influence.

lol collectively ofc (you can even tell Mainland Greek groups from different regions if you are experienced) but some can pass all over as individuals.

[Sikeliot]

lol collectively ofc (you can even tell Mainland Greek groups from different regions if you are experienced) but some can pass all over as individuals.

The question was if mainland Greeks look collectively more northern-influenced than Cypriots.

[Bloodsport]

Dark types look unique how? What might they pass as?

Also, compared to Cyprus, do YOU perceive mainland Greeks as northern influenced?

The main difference between mainland Greece and Cyprus is that the mainland has pan-Balkan types, which are not so common in Cyprus.

[Tooting Carmen]

It's just my opinion. I've said before that I am not really familiar with northern phenotypes, I am with Mediterranean phenotypes so it's easy for me to spot the differences in Med peoples.

But unlike the Cypriot politicians who, as you said yourself, look very distinctly Cypriot/Greek/Island Med, their British counterparts can pass in a number of places, ranging from Finland in some cases to Fuerteventura in others.

[Sikeliot]

The main difference between mainland Greece and Cyprus is that the mainland has pan-Balkan types, which are not so common in Cyprus.

So answer the question and stop evading it. Does mainland Greece have a northern influence lacking in Cyprus? And where is the northern influence stronger; mainland Greece or in Sicily?

[Bloodsport]

lol collectively ofc (you can even tell Mainland Greek groups from different regions if you are experienced) but some can pass all over as individuals.

Casandrinos is right also. I can tell Cretans and other islanders apart from mainlanders. Usually.

[Bloodsport]

So answer the question and stop evading it. Does mainland Greece have a northern influence lacking in Cyprus? And where is the northern influence stronger; mainland Greece or in Sicily?

Yes but I really shouldn't have to state that. It's like me asking whether Udine has more northern influence than Catania. It's obvious. And I can't really tell if Sicily or Greece is more 'northern' because I've not been north of Delphi.

[Casandrinos]

The question was if mainland Greeks look collectively more northern-influenced than Cypriots.

Hardly

mainland Greeks look Slavicized Nigerian

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rMPHQBO9pXQ/URBbtEDRn5I/AAAAAAAAMiQ/CBvrWbdD8Cs/s640/CA-3rd.jpg (Baltid-Negrid typical Mainlander)

[Casandrinos]

Both Greek and Near Eastern types appear in Sicily.

Appear is different from being typical

So this bunch is not idontseeanydifferencesfromSicilans-like as you want it to be

[Pjeter Pan]

Hardly

mainland Greeks look Slavicized Nigerian

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-rMPHQBO9pXQ/URBbtEDRn5I/AAAAAAAAMiQ/CBvrWbdD8Cs/s640/CA-3rd.jpg (Baltid-Negrid typical Mainlander)

niggas gonna grow up to slay 1000s of women. very greek btw, peloponnese?

[Bloodsport]

To me, only Kostas Kadis and Ionas Nikolaou look distinctly west Asian.

[Casandrinos]

niggas gonna grow up to slay 1000s of women. very greek btw, peloponnese?

Yes

wanna claim him for Arvanite?

[Sikeliot]

Yes but I really shouldn't have to state that. It's like me asking whether Udine has more northern influence than Catania. It's obvious. And I can't really tell if Sicily or Greece is more 'northern' because I've not been north of Delphi.

I go by what genetics tell me, generally.

[Pjeter Pan]

Yes

wanna claim him for Arvanite?

no, he needs to stay in greece and try to whiten your genes

[Sikeliot]

Anyway just to clarify, I didn't mean to say as a collective these Cypriots would be a typical group of Sicilians. I meant to say they all can pass individually. Then again they don't pass as a group of Greeks either, so there's that.

[Bloodsport]

Then again they don't pass as a group of Greeks either, so there's that.

If I posted them as Sicilians you'd say they were Greek. Please, two Greek posters said they were mostly Greek looking. They (with the exception of two) pass as island Greeks, which is what they are. I'm not going to continue this discussion, I'd rather stick to classifications if anyone has anymore.

[Sikeliot]

If I posted them as Sicilians you'd say they were Greek. Please, two Greek posters said they were mostly Greek looking. They pass as island Greeks, which is what they are. I'm not going to continue this discussion, I'd rather stick to classifications if anyone has anymore.

They are Greek looking as individuals, but if you posted them as one group of Greeks, you'd have to wonder where those with a Balkan sort of look were among them?

[Casandrinos]

Funny how Sikeliot and other Med-centrics say that Brits are boring whereas Cypriots (and other Southern Europeans, to some extent) are so fascinating, when a random group of Brits (be they politicians or anything else) would be FAR more varied than this. Btw, British cabinet ministers (although some have changed since I made the thread): http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?101249-UK-Government-Ministers

lol these Cypriots are a different type each. The only common thing is that they're ''Med''.

But i agree the Brits vary too.

[Sikeliot]

lol these Cypriots are a different type each. The only common thing is that they're ''Med''.

But i agree the Brits vary too.

Do you think collectively the Cypriots here have Near Eastern influence or no?

[Casandrinos]

They are Greek looking as individuals, but if you posted them as one group of Greeks, you'd have to wonder where those with a Balkan sort of look were among them?

I pointed out which looked Greek and which not. Don't try to pass your agenda here Slavonegrisized Sardinian.

[Tooting Carmen]

lol these Cypriots are a different type each. The only common thing is that they're ''Med''.

But i agree the Brits vary too.

But to me at least the British variation is more obvious, whereas the Cypriot variation is more subtle. Anyway, like I said, these Cypriot cabinet ministers are a blend of East Meds, Alpine-Meds and Dinaro-Meds in the main.

[Casandrinos]

Do you think collectively the Cypriots here have Near Eastern influence or no?

Yes, they have. What's your point.

[Sikeliot]

Yes, they have. What's your point.

Just a question, watch your attitude.

[Tooting Carmen]

Again, to prove the Med-centrism of this forum, when I posted the entire British cabinet a few days after I joined this forum, the thread barely lasted two pages. Whereas here we are now onto page 7.

[Casandrinos]

Again, to prove the Med-centrism of this forum, when I posted the entire British cabinet a few days after I joined this forum, the thread barely lasted two pages. Whereas here we are now onto page 7.

Don't blame South European posters for this

If you like that you can hire your own Briteliot for this job :icon_lol:

[Bloodsport]

Guys, let's leave this to classification. If we want to have other discussions they can take place elsewhere. Don't turn my thread into a piss thread. I was genuinely interested in classifications.

[Sikeliot]

Guys, let's leave this to classification. If we want to have other discussions they can take place elsewhere. Don't turn my thread into a piss thread. I was genuinely interested in classifications.

Leave it up to Casandrinos to do anything else. I say one thing he hates and it's the end of the world.

[Porpolita]

Mix of Berids, Alpine-Meds, East Meds, Dinaro-Meds, Alpine-Meds and Pontids. There is also the odd Iranid or Armenoid.

I am surprised by the amount of Berids. It is probably the phenotype I saw most.

[Sikeliot]

I am surprised by the amount of Berids. It is probably the phenotype I saw most.

I thought the same.

[Bloodsport]

I am surprised by the amount of Berids. It is probably the phenotype I saw most.

I've said quite often that Berid is common in Cyprus. In fact I'm starting to classify a fair few family members as Berid. This is why I think a fair few Cypriots fit in Spain, as Berids mostly do.

[Loki]

I pointed out which looked Greek and which not. Don't try to pass your agenda here Slavonegrisized Sardinian.

Come on, show some respect. Okay? You're walking on a narrow ledge.

[Casandrinos]

Come on, show some respect. Okay? You're walking on a narrow ledge.

No

My Slavovlach side is by birth against dishonesty


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9eUhnOjPLI

[Ctwentysevenj]

pass mainly in the Greek islands, Turkey and the levant.

[Bloodsport]

Anyone else?

[Trun]

East Meds, Alpo-Meds and Dinaromeds.