When you think of Asians, which of the two images comes to mind?

[Tooting Carmen]

I did a similar poll regarding Europeans, so here we go.

Photo One:
http://factsanddetails.com/media/2/20090801-PictureTokyopicture_073.jpg

Photo Two:
http://www.etawau.com/People/Malay/Malay_01b.jpg

[Leto]

Photo one.

[Tooting Carmen]

Photo one.

Why?

[Borna]

I think that Asia should be ruled by Japs as a most supreme of all Asians, they are Swedish equivalent in the east.

[Leto]

Why?
Stereotypical Asians are not that dark and don't wear headscarves.

[Tooting Carmen]

Stereotypical Asians are not that dark and don't wear headscarves.

Which goes to show that there is a kind of hierarchy in how people regard how 'Asian' or how 'European' different ethnic groups and nationalities within the respective continents look.

[Leto]

I think that Asia should be ruled by Japs as a most supreme of all Asians, they are Swedish equivalent in the east.
First they should definitely fix their demographic situation. But yeah, I discussed it with my friend, he is a fan of Japan. We agreed that the Russian Far East would be much better developed if it was ruled by the Japanese.:)

[Leto]

Which goes to show that there is a kind of hierarchy in how people regard how 'Asian' or how 'European' different ethnic groups and nationalities within the respective continents look.
Well, there are some "benchmarks" everywhere.

[Tooting Carmen]

Well, there are some "benchmarks" everywhere.

But the point is that Japanese and Malays are both equally Asian, but they are very different kinds of Asians. Likewise, Swedes and Sicilians/Maltese are both equally European, but they are very different kinds of Europeans.

[Leto]

But the point is that Japanese and Malays are both equally Asian, but they are very different kinds of Asians. Likewise, Swedes and Sicilians/Maltese are both equally European, but they are very different kinds of Europeans.
Basically, you're correct.

[Tooting Carmen]

Basically, you're correct.

But the big question is: why is the Japanese/NE Asian look what people generally equate with "Asian"? Similarly, why is the Swedish/Germanic/Northern European look what people generally equate with "European"?

[Ades]

When people say "Asians", the first thing that comes to my mind are east-Asians, like the Japanese, Koreans and Chinese.

Where I come from, you will rarely see someone describe an Indian or something like that as "Asian". Asian is like another word for Mongoloid (race).

[Tooting Carmen]

When people say "Asians", the first thing that comes to my mind are east-Asians, like the Japanese, Koreans and Chinese.

Where I come from, you will rarely see someone describe an Indian or something like that as "Asian". Asian is like another word for Mongoloid (race).

Yes, but the point is that Malays are also Mongoloids, only darker-skinned.

[Leto]

But the big question is: why is the Japanese/NE Asian look what people generally equate with "Asian"? Similarly, why is the Swedish/Germanic/Northern European look what people generally equate with "European"?
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When people say "Asians", the first thing that comes to my mind are east-Asians, like the Japanese, Koreans and Chinese.

Where I come from, you will rarely see someone describe an Indian or something like that as "Asian". Asian is like another word for Mongoloid (race).

[Leto]

Yes, but the point is that Malays are also Mongoloids, only darker-skinned.
East Asian countries are much more prominent.

[Ades]

Yes, but the point is that Malays are also Mongoloids, only darker-skinned.

True, but if I remember correctly, some recent genetic tests, such as Eurogenes K8, show that southeast asians have less ENA percentages (more common among east-asians, the "mongoloid genetic element", let's call it), and have admixture with ancestral populations associated with south Asians and native Australians or other people of the Oceania.

[Ades]

East Asian countries are much more prominent.

That's also a point. We hear a 100 times more of Japan and China, than we hear about Cambodia, etc.

[Tooting Carmen]

That's also a point. We hear a 100 times more of Japan and China, than we hear about Cambodia, etc.

Although no doubt during the Khmer Rouge regime it was the other way round...

[Ingenious]

Southeast Asians are like the Greeks of asia.....nobody thinks about them when the word Asian comes up

[Kabul]

Asia=greater Mongolia

[Ingenious]

True, but if I remember correctly, some recent genetic tests, such as Eurogenes K8, show that southeast asians have less ENA percentages (more common among east-asians, the "mongoloid genetic element", let's call it), and have admixture with ancestral populations associated with south Asians and native Australians or other people of the Oceania.
Yes every seasians are looking like negros and aboriginals....like this Seasian woman.....so non-mongoloud looking
http://i49.tinypic.com/bhimnm.jpg

Let's discount the millions of seasians who don't have Australia admixture and magnify the ones who do

[zhaoyun]

Both are equally "Asian". But obviously because East Asia has a disproportionate influence than SE Asia, it is thought of most when one mentions "Asians", which is a rather meaningless term in general.

[Dictator]

Both are equally "Asian". But obviously because East Asia has a disproportionate influence than SE Asia, it is thought of most when one mentions "Asians", which is a rather meaningless term in general.

You’re all rice eaters anyway :p

[zhaoyun]

You’re all rice eaters anyway :p

Not really. Northern Chinese and Mongolians traditionally did not eat rice. Southern Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and SE Asians were traditionally rice eaters. Rice is awesome btw.

[Dictator]

Not really. Northern Chinese and Mongolians traditionally did not eat rice.

But rice is so good.

[zhaoyun]

I think that Asia should be ruled by Japs as a most supreme of all Asians, they are Swedish equivalent in the east.

The Japanese have only been ahead since they industrialized during the Meiji era in the late 19th Century. Before then, China was always the most advanced Asian civilization, and I believe it will take the mantle again in the next 1-2 generations.

[Leto]

The Japanese have only been ahead since they industrialized during the Meiji era in the late 19th Century. Before then, China was always the most advanced Asian civilization, and I believe it will take the mantle again in the next 1-2 generations.
Chinese supremacist exposed!:thumb001:

[Ingenious]

You’re all rice eaters anyway :p

not mongolians......they were nomadic....and you couldn't grow rice in the harsh environment they lived in.....rice eaters are mostly in sea and southern china

[Dictator]

not mongolians......they were nomadic....and you couldn't grow rice in the harsh environment they lived in.....rice eaters are mostly in sea and southern china

You are not asian. Only Zhao is allowed to talk about asian things.

[Ingenious]

You are not asian. Only Zhao is allowed to talk about asian things.

I'm seasian -_-

[zhaoyun]

Chinese supremacist exposed!:thumb001:

No, just a prediction of obvious trends. Japan is stagnant while China is rapidly rising and vibrant.

The Japanese are still ahead in many fields, but that is likely to change in the near future looking at the trends.

[Dictator]

I'm seasian -_-

You aren’t human?

[Leto]

I'm seasian -_-
You're a mixed person from the US.

[Ingenious]

You're a mixed person from the US.

I'm a seasian of 2 ethnic from seasia living in the usa

[Ades]

Yes every seasians are looking like negros and aboriginals....like this Seasian woman.....so non-mongoloud looking
http://i49.tinypic.com/bhimnm.jpg

Let's discount the millions of seasians who don't have Australia admixture and magnify the ones who do

That's not what I said.

Read the comment you quoted with attention, and quit being so defensive.

[Tooting Carmen]

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[Goujian]

Asian can mean anything so Indians are Asian, Levantines are Asian, etc.

[Tooting Carmen]

Asian can mean anything so Indians are Asian, Levantines are Asian, etc.

Well OK, but on this occasion I mean the Far East.

[Goujian]

Well OK, but on this occasion I mean the Far East.

In that case then generally the first photo.

[Iloko]

I voted #2, and I usually think of Viets as the middle ground among Asians.

[Peter Nirsch]

both, because they are both Asian!

[Tiberio]

1 for Japan and China
2 for south East Asia

[TommyT]

Why?

I think of South Asians when I hear Asian. But you didn't put that as a choice.

[Harley]

Both, though stereotypically, I would choose picture one.

What made me realize picture two was equally relevant was looking though an Indonesian online friend's pictures of her classmates. The second picture would fit in with her classmates.

[Tooting Carmen]

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[Incal]

First pic.

[dude]

They both look Asian. Is just some look like Japanese and the others are like Filipino or something to the effect.

[Tooting Carmen]

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