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Oresai
01-18-2009, 05:57 AM
The article is from the Daily Record newspaper. I find it disgusting. And it isn`t the only story of it`s kind...far too often, criminals commiting serious crimes get let off, or an easy sentence, often the cases don`t even reach the courts. It sometimes seems that life is cheap. :(
As with the defense of our homes, should someone break in and threaten us, there are actual LAWS set in place to protect the criminals! :mad:
I am personally in favour of vigilanteism. I expect some criticism for that, since I`m sure we all realise it can get out of hand and innocent people can be hurt or killed.
But....
what do you do, if the law lets you down? I have broken the law and taken justice into my own hands more than once. On each occasion it was because a loved one had been harmed and the authorities in place to supposedly protect the victim, failed to do so.
I would do the same again.
Is blind, dogged faith in our legal system prudent or foolish? When it does fail us, and we appeal, how often does it come through for us in the end? Rarely, I am willing to bet.
I will never stop doing what I need to do, if it means getting natural justice for loved ones harmed, or seeking revenge..yes, revenge...for serious wrongs done to me and mine where the law just doesn`t care, or favours the criminal.
Yet I`m a respectable woman, I don`t go out of my way to cause trouble of any kind, I abide by the law on a daily basis, I pay taxes etc etc .....yet also have a healthy disregard for the infallability of the legal system and know first hand it can fail the victim miserably.
In which case, should we take it and do nothing?
I don`t believe so. What do you believe?



Triple axe murderer disguises himself for trips out of prison
Jan 17 2009 By Mark McGivern And Keith Mcleod

CARSTAIRS axeman Thomas McCulloch has disguised himself to prepare for unsupervised trips out of his cushy open prison.

The triple murderer feared he would be recognised as he strolled the streets with no guards.

So he has shaved off his beard and moustache and shaved his head.

A picture, taken at Greenock jail a few weeks ago before McCulloch's move to Noranside open prison, has revealed the monster's new look.

A source said: "McCulloch got rid of the facial hair in the hope he can be anonymous when he gets leave.

"He was worried that people had seen pictures of him with the beard."

The Record revealed that McCulloch had been been moved to Noranside in Angus on Thursday as prison bosses prepare to let him out.

Once he settles in, he's likely to get his own flat at the jail and be allowed to do his own cooking and shopping.

McCulloch, 60, will also be let loose for unsupervised week-long "home visits".

And he could be free within months. He's set to be moved to a hostel in the Dundee area to make his final preparations for release.

McCulloch and his twisted gay lover Robert Mone butchered three men in their horrific breakout from the state mental hospital at Carstairs, Lanarkshire, in 1976.

They hacked a patient and guard to death with an axe and McCulloch cut off the patient's ears as a trophy.

During a six-hour rampage through Lanarkshire, the deranged pair murdered a 27-year-old policeman, maimed two workmen in a horrific axe and knife attack and held a terrified family hostage in their own home.

McCulloch had been sent to Carstairs in 1970 for trying to kill two hotel staff after a petty row over a sandwich. He was diagnosed as a psychopath.

Mone was sent to the hospital after he shot dead a pregnant teacher during a siege at his former school in Dundee.

After their bloody breakout, both killers were told they would never be freed. But they used European human rights law to have their minimum sentences cut to 30 years each.

McCulloch was considered so dangerous, he spent 26 of his 38 years behind bars in solitary confinement.

But our source said he has done an excellent job of convincing officials he is no longer dangerous.

"He passed the assessment and interviews for parole with flying colours," the insider said.

Mone, currently in Peterhead jail, is also trying to convince the authorities to free him. MSPS were outraged in 2007 when he was let out of Shotts prison for an escorted day tip to Crieff.

IF YOU SEE McCULLOCH ON THE STREETS, CALL US ON 0141309 3251

Psychonaut
01-18-2009, 07:22 AM
It seems that vigilantes work out much better in fiction than reality. While the idea certainly appeals to me on a visceral level, the potential for error is far too great. But none of that stops me from looking up to this man:

http://www.ilovesubstance.com/images/movies/the_dark_knight_batman_movie_poster.jpg

Treffie
01-18-2009, 09:09 AM
I'm all for taking the law into our own hands, but I believe the secret is not to get caught - if the law is an ass and doesn't recognise justice, what hope is there for us normal folk?

Pino
01-18-2009, 11:49 AM
They will never accept vigilantism because they want us to be a bunch of lemons who think we are not capable of anything, especially not showing we have the power to clean up our neighborhoods OURSELFS rarther than letting the Police continue to harrass every innocent person while down the road sombodys house is being burgaled.

Also it means we no longer depend on the Police for anything which would take the general respect or acknowledgement of there powers right down.

Grey
06-10-2011, 03:53 AM
I've been thinking about this subject a lot lately.

There is a group of three men in my hometown who have been convicted of child molestation, and I know one of them. He's been in prison because they found pictures in his home of him and an 8-year-old girl. I've met her as well--she's a bit older than I am now.

Apparently the police were tipped off by one of the three who seemed to genuinely hate himself for what he'd done. The other two found out about this before he got to testify, and as he was leaving his home one day, they put spike strips in the street, causing him to wreck. As soon as he got out of the car the guy that I know shot him in the face.

They were released a few years ago. Without the other guy's testimony, they didn't get locked up as long as they should have been, and I don't understand how it's right for a child rapist and cold-blooded murderer to ever be released. I can't help but feel like I'm doing wrong by letting such a person live, and what's worse is that out of the entire community, there isn't a single person with the balls to do it either, yet they didn't have any qualms about burning down that gay camp a couple of perishes over. It's not like Louisiana has a shortage of shitty people either; everyone knows who the crack-dealers and the robbers are; hell, our old sheriff was the worst of them all.

I just wonder why, as a culture, we strongly admire vigilantism (Boondock Saints, etc), but only in movies, as though enjoying the movie is enough on our part to stop such things. On the internet every guy says he'd kill all those shitty people in the news if he got the chance, but why doesn't he?